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<v Speaker 1>Get in touch with technology with tech Stuff from how

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<v Speaker 1>stuff works dot com. Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with

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<v Speaker 1>how Stuff Works in the Love all Things Tech and

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<v Speaker 1>tech Stuff. Listener Tyler wrote in to ask me if

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<v Speaker 1>I could do an episode about the dark Web. Yay. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I've done episodes in the past relating to the dark Web.

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<v Speaker 1>I've talked about what the dark web is, but I

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<v Speaker 1>figured revisiting it is a good idea. That's one of

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<v Speaker 1>those topics that tends to be in and now the

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<v Speaker 1>news pretty frequently. In fact, the day that I record this,

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of different news stories came out about relating

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<v Speaker 1>to the dark Web. And when people start bandying about

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<v Speaker 1>that name, uh, a lot of different ideas come to mind.

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<v Speaker 1>So what is it all about? That's what we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to try and answer. The very name conjures up this

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<v Speaker 1>idea of a egal goods and services, kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>black market for the Internet, and that's definitely a part

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<v Speaker 1>of the dark Web. In fact, you might argue it

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<v Speaker 1>is a very large part of the dark Web, but

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<v Speaker 1>it is not the whole picture. So here we go. First,

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<v Speaker 1>it's good to remind ourselves of how the world Wide

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<v Speaker 1>Web tends to work. The web we typically use on

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<v Speaker 1>a day to day basis, So your average Internet user,

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<v Speaker 1>not someone who's a hacker or is trying to evade detection,

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<v Speaker 1>just your average person. When this average person makes a

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<v Speaker 1>regular run of the mill website so that they're creating

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<v Speaker 1>their own website, he or she will build out this

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<v Speaker 1>site and create links between pages on the site so

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<v Speaker 1>you can navigate easily across the different pages. Maybe they

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<v Speaker 1>include some links out to a few other sites that

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<v Speaker 1>are of a related topic or interest. Maybe some of

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<v Speaker 1>those sites are owned by that same person, maybe they're

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<v Speaker 1>owned by different people. Then they might build out some

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<v Speaker 1>meta data on their web pages. This helps tag those

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<v Speaker 1>pages to indicate what the site is actually about. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>assuming there are no incoming links to this website, Let's

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<v Speaker 1>say you're Logic a brand new website and there there's

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<v Speaker 1>no connection with anything else yet, like no one else

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<v Speaker 1>has any incoming links to your site, then you might

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<v Speaker 1>want to use a tool like Google's search console to

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<v Speaker 1>fetch the U r L of your website. You know

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<v Speaker 1>you've established it, you've got it launched on the server

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<v Speaker 1>you fetch the u r L using that tool, and

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<v Speaker 1>that will help index your website and Google's search index,

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<v Speaker 1>and that tells Google where the website is and what's

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<v Speaker 1>on it. Then Google can sent its crawlers to explore

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<v Speaker 1>your site, follow all the links to all the different

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<v Speaker 1>pages and build out a better understanding of what the

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<v Speaker 1>site is about, including those individual pages, and put them

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<v Speaker 1>all in search. And these links between pages and between

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<v Speaker 1>sites are really important. The links are the web in

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<v Speaker 1>Worldwide Web right, we call it a web because they

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<v Speaker 1>are all these different links between different pages. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>not just how you can navigate from one page or

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<v Speaker 1>site to another, but it's also how search engines can

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<v Speaker 1>find an index sites to include in search results. They

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<v Speaker 1>send out these automatic crawlers that crawl the web and

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<v Speaker 1>index everything. Ranking high in search is a really good

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<v Speaker 1>way to get traffic to your site generally, not as

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<v Speaker 1>not as good a way as it used to be, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>because the way that people get their links to go

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<v Speaker 1>visit stuff changes over time. But you want to use

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<v Speaker 1>good search engine optimization. Now that's tricky because there are

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<v Speaker 1>different search engines, and different search engines have different priorities

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<v Speaker 1>as to what is important for ranking and search. They

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<v Speaker 1>have different algorithms, and these can change without notice. So

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<v Speaker 1>one day your site might rank really well in a

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<v Speaker 1>particular search engine, and then the next day it suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>is pushed to the third page or lower, and no

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<v Speaker 1>one's seeing it when they search for whatever the terms are. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>all of this assumes that you want people to easily

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<v Speaker 1>find your stuff in the first place, that you want

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<v Speaker 1>to be part of this surface web. You want search

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<v Speaker 1>engines to index your site and make it easier for

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<v Speaker 1>traffic to come to you. Your website is part of

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<v Speaker 1>this surface web, the stuff that's really easy to find

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<v Speaker 1>and navigate to on purpose, it was made intentionally that way. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>in actuality, that represents a very small percentage of all

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<v Speaker 1>the information that is on the web. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>think of it, it's kind of like an iceberg, right.

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<v Speaker 1>The part you see above the water is only a

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<v Speaker 1>tiny fraction of the entire iceberg. Most of the mass

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<v Speaker 1>of the iceberg is out of So it is with

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<v Speaker 1>the Worldwide Web. You've got the surface web, the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>you can see. That's a tiny percentage. What if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to be found so easily, Maybe you're creating

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<v Speaker 1>a database and that database has information in it that's important,

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<v Speaker 1>and you want certain people to be able to get

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<v Speaker 1>to it very easily, but you don't want the whole

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<v Speaker 1>world to get there. Right, it's not that there's anything

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<v Speaker 1>wrong in the database. Maybe there's proprietary information. Maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>work for a company and you've built out a database

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<v Speaker 1>that needs to be web accessible because people in your

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<v Speaker 1>company may be trusted partners. They need to have access

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<v Speaker 1>to this information. But you don't want the general public

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<v Speaker 1>to get it. You want to limit people. Well, there

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<v Speaker 1>are a couple of ways you can do this. One

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<v Speaker 1>is you can include some code in your HTML to

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<v Speaker 1>prevent your site from being indexed by search engines. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a meta tag called no index all one word no

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<v Speaker 1>index that tells search butts you don't want that site

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<v Speaker 1>to be included on search results page. But that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a minor form of protection. It does not stop

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<v Speaker 1>other sites from linking straight to yours. Right, So I

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<v Speaker 1>might not show up on anyone's search engine. But let's

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<v Speaker 1>say I've created this database and I don't have any

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<v Speaker 1>other protection on it other than the fact that I've

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<v Speaker 1>told it not to get indexed in any search engines.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing stopping someone else from creating a link to

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<v Speaker 1>my database that would still send people straight there. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>This section of the web that is blocked off from

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<v Speaker 1>search engines in general is what we would call the

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<v Speaker 1>deep web. So this is underneath the water in that

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<v Speaker 1>iceberg metaphor. The deep web has tons of stuff in it,

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<v Speaker 1>including stuff that's important but probably not very interesting for

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<v Speaker 1>the general public, like those databases I was talking about

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<v Speaker 1>that would be really important for some people and probably

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<v Speaker 1>of no interest at all to of the of the

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<v Speaker 1>population out there. The only way to navigate the air

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<v Speaker 1>is to type in the specific U r L in

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<v Speaker 1>a web browser, and it may likely have other forms

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<v Speaker 1>of security, such as a password login page where you

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<v Speaker 1>have to have an account in order to gain access

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<v Speaker 1>to whatever is behind that, but you can't get there

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<v Speaker 1>unless you already know the address. Uh. It would be

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<v Speaker 1>like navigating to a secret location on a map, and

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<v Speaker 1>the only way you can get to the secret location

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<v Speaker 1>is if you already know where it is. Then beyond

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<v Speaker 1>the deep web is the dark web. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>subsection of the deep web. Unlike the deep web, you

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<v Speaker 1>cannot navigate to sites on the dark Web through normal

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<v Speaker 1>web browsers. Typically you would need special dark web browsers,

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<v Speaker 1>the most well known of which is Tour, the tour

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<v Speaker 1>browser bundle. Tour stands for a couple of different things. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get into that. A lot of shady stuff can

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<v Speaker 1>happen on the dark web. It's not all illegal activity,

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<v Speaker 1>but a lot of it definitely is illegal activity. And

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<v Speaker 1>there are tons of bad actors out there on the

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<v Speaker 1>dark Web. I'm not talking about people who do really

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<v Speaker 1>crappy performances and movies and film and television and plays

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff. I mean people who are out to exploit

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<v Speaker 1>other people and companies, people who are out to steal

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<v Speaker 1>information for profit or cause mischief. There are a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of them on the dark web. These are people or

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<v Speaker 1>groups who deal in data. They look for careless folks

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<v Speaker 1>who do not protect their information very well. Even something

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<v Speaker 1>is seemingly boring as an IP address can be dangerous

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<v Speaker 1>in their hands. And because a ton of stuff on

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<v Speaker 1>the dark web is at least of questionable legality, you

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<v Speaker 1>probably don't want to leave a trail of where you've been.

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<v Speaker 1>If you visit the dark web. Your Internet service provider

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<v Speaker 1>would have a record of this, and then perhaps someday

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<v Speaker 1>law enforcement officials serve that I s P with an

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<v Speaker 1>order to hand over data. Maybe you did nothing wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe all you were doing was just being curious and

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<v Speaker 1>seeing what happens to be out there on the deep

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<v Speaker 1>web or the dark web. And then you're just looking around.

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<v Speaker 1>But now you've got a trail. The I s P

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<v Speaker 1>knows that you went there, and now the fuzzes on

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<v Speaker 1>your tail because you didn't cover it tracks. So there's

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<v Speaker 1>another element to visiting the dark web that you'll here

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned all the time, and that would be VPNs or

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<v Speaker 1>virtual private networks. Those act as sort of a stopper

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<v Speaker 1>between you and the dark web. There's actually a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of different stoppers, because tour itself acts as a stopper.

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<v Speaker 1>But the VbN is there to help provide a little

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<v Speaker 1>protection between you and your Internet service provider. You lug

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<v Speaker 1>into the VPN and that assigns you an I P

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<v Speaker 1>address that is not the one that your machine actually has. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the VPN is acting on your behalf. It's

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<v Speaker 1>acting as your proxy. So you're signed into the VPN,

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<v Speaker 1>it assigns you an IP address, perhaps one that belongs

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<v Speaker 1>to a machine that would be in a totally different country.

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<v Speaker 1>So the IP address would indicate that you are perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>in a completely different part of the world. It might

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<v Speaker 1>be that you're in Topeka, Kansas, but you log into

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<v Speaker 1>a VPN and it assigns you an IP address that

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<v Speaker 1>makes it look like you are in Singapore. So then

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<v Speaker 1>you are able to visit sites through this VPN and

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<v Speaker 1>from the perspective of the people on the other end

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<v Speaker 1>of this, on the site end, Let's say that you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to navigate to let's just pick an innocent website.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say you're going to how Stuff Works, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>using a VPN in order to do it. Then when

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<v Speaker 1>you contact How stuff Works as server through the VPN,

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<v Speaker 1>how stuff works is server is getting the IP address

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<v Speaker 1>the VPN has provided, not your personal IP address, not

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<v Speaker 1>your machines IP address, but rather the one from the VPN.

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<v Speaker 1>So How Stuff Works is sending information back to the

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<v Speaker 1>VPN via that i P address, and the VPN then

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<v Speaker 1>relays that to you. That's a level of protection so

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<v Speaker 1>that the I s P all all they can see

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<v Speaker 1>is that you're connecting to this virtual private network. They

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<v Speaker 1>can't see, you know, what else is going on there

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<v Speaker 1>because everything else is going through there. Uh, but tour

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<v Speaker 1>adds another layer of protection. I'll talk more about that

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<v Speaker 1>in a second. But visiting the dark web is risky.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you're trying to do something that isn't really legal,

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you're encountering the scum and villainy of the Internet.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you're doing something totally on the up and up.

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<v Speaker 1>But just because it's the dark web, it cast suspicion

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<v Speaker 1>on you. You've got to be careful. And there are

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<v Speaker 1>plenty of people who suggest you use a vp N

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<v Speaker 1>all the time, by the way, not just when you

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<v Speaker 1>go visit the dark web, but rather go ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>use a VPN whenever you browse the Internet, which is

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily a bad idea if you value your privacy.

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<v Speaker 1>It can help keep your browsing activity private from your

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<v Speaker 1>Internet search provider our service provider rather, and thus you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to worry about them seeing what kind of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff you're looking at. Let's say that you're looking at

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<v Speaker 1>a different Internet service provider and you don't want your

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<v Speaker 1>current one to know. It could be something as simple

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<v Speaker 1>as that. However, using a VPN does tend to slow

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<v Speaker 1>things down a bit, so pages load load more slowly.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll get your content more slowly than you would if

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<v Speaker 1>you directly directly connected, So you balance privacy with how

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<v Speaker 1>quickly pages load and how quickly you get the content. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>a good VPN tends to be subscription service. You you

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<v Speaker 1>pay a monthly fee in order to use the VPN,

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<v Speaker 1>and you get what you pay for. A good VPN

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<v Speaker 1>will not keep log files. For example, because of a

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<v Speaker 1>VPNs keeping log files, then your activity is still being logged,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just being logged at the VPN level, not

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<v Speaker 1>the I s B level. So dark web enthusiasts tend

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<v Speaker 1>to go towards VPNs that are reputable, that don't keep

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<v Speaker 1>log files and they are subscription based because they they

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<v Speaker 1>provide these services. Also, dark webe enthusiast tend to gravitate

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<v Speaker 1>toward cryptocurrencies like bitcoin to pay those fees because of

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<v Speaker 1>that decentralized nature of cryptocurrency and also the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>if you're using it properly and you're not using it

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<v Speaker 1>too frequently, your transactions are largely untraceable. They don't link

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<v Speaker 1>back to your identity personally, so you have some safety

0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:40.120
<v Speaker 1>there by, making purchases through Bitcoin really secure. Vp ns

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<v Speaker 1>will frequently purge all their records so again, you want

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<v Speaker 1>to look into that if you are interested in using

0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:48.319
<v Speaker 1>a vp N. So some of you may be intrigued

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<v Speaker 1>by what I'm talking about so far and you want

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<v Speaker 1>to know more. We're gonna go further down the rabbit

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<v Speaker 1>hole and really talk about onions in just a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>But first, let's sick quick break to thank our sponsor

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned earlier, the Tour bundle, the tor browser or

0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:17.400
<v Speaker 1>Tour client. Tour grew out of the concept of onion routing.

0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:20.400
<v Speaker 1>In fact, that's you know, the onion routers what Tour

0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:25.320
<v Speaker 1>technically kind of stands for. And onion routing in itself

0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:29.640
<v Speaker 1>was a concept that emerged out of the early mid nineties.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh and it was funded in part by organizations like

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<v Speaker 1>the Office of Naval Research and DARPA, so there's military

0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:41.080
<v Speaker 1>money behind it. So what the heck is onion routing? Well,

0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:45.200
<v Speaker 1>it involves sending data wrapped inside a series of encrypted

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<v Speaker 1>layers and passing through a series of relays before getting

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<v Speaker 1>to its intended destination. And those layers of encryption are

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<v Speaker 1>like the peel of an onion. You peel down one

0:14:56.360 --> 0:15:00.000
<v Speaker 1>layer of encryption and you have another layer of encryption.

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<v Speaker 1>You do that again you get another layer of encryption,

0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:05.800
<v Speaker 1>and finally, after you peel back that third layer, you

0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:08.480
<v Speaker 1>get to whatever the data is, which, by the way,

0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:11.280
<v Speaker 1>could still be in an encrypted format, it would just

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<v Speaker 1>no longer be related specifically to onion routing. So an

0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:19.840
<v Speaker 1>onion rolling network consists of thousands of computers run by volunteers.

0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:23.880
<v Speaker 1>By the way, you can actually volunteer to UH to

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<v Speaker 1>act as a tour relay UH. You are volunteering up

0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:33.400
<v Speaker 1>some of your bandwidth each month to that purpose UM,

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<v Speaker 1>and there are a lot of folks who advocate for

0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:39.440
<v Speaker 1>that sort of thing. When you're doing that, those those

0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:42.560
<v Speaker 1>computers that are part of this relay system, they're running

0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:46.880
<v Speaker 1>special software to act as relays. Traffic passing through an

0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:51.720
<v Speaker 1>onion network will go through three relays before reaching the

0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:56.760
<v Speaker 1>intended destination. So your computer is the client that you're

0:15:56.840 --> 0:16:00.920
<v Speaker 1>running a tour client technically, and when you ever you

0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:03.520
<v Speaker 1>send a request out, it's going to pass through three

0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:07.040
<v Speaker 1>relays on the tour network before it gets to the

0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:11.200
<v Speaker 1>destination on the other side to retrieve whatever it is

0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:14.040
<v Speaker 1>you're looking for. You're hopping around. If you think about

0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:18.760
<v Speaker 1>spy movies, whenever people are tracing a call and they're like, oh,

0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:23.920
<v Speaker 1>we've got it. It's coming from you know, Los Angeles, California. Wait, no, no,

0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:27.200
<v Speaker 1>we're tracing it back. It's actually over in Tokyo. No wait,

0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:29.760
<v Speaker 1>we're tracing it back. The whole thing where that you're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing that the call is hopping through satellites over and

0:16:33.160 --> 0:16:34.720
<v Speaker 1>over and again, you're trying to trace it back to

0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:37.440
<v Speaker 1>original source. That's kind of what Tour is doing. It

0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:40.760
<v Speaker 1>does it in threes. So let's say I'm using the

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<v Speaker 1>Tour browser and I want to visit super secret site X.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what happens from a high level perspective. First, my

0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:54.840
<v Speaker 1>Tour browser, also known as the client, will encrypt my request,

0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:58.840
<v Speaker 1>and those three layers, the entity that holds the key

0:16:58.880 --> 0:17:03.480
<v Speaker 1>to my request exists on the relays of the Tour network.

0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:09.159
<v Speaker 1>The ultimate one, the closest layer of encryption to my data,

0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:12.960
<v Speaker 1>is held by what is called the exit relay. That's

0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:17.000
<v Speaker 1>the point where my request leaves the Tour network and

0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:22.240
<v Speaker 1>hits the destination. Uh. More on that in a second. So,

0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:25.439
<v Speaker 1>now my request will have layers of encryption around it.

0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:29.560
<v Speaker 1>Uh the first layer being the one from the exit relay.

0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:33.040
<v Speaker 1>The second layer will be a layer of encryption around

0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:35.720
<v Speaker 1>the first That one can only be decoded by a

0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:39.040
<v Speaker 1>key that's one step back from the exit relay. That's

0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:42.440
<v Speaker 1>the middle relay. And then my client wraps one more

0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:46.600
<v Speaker 1>layer of encryption around that, and the holder of the

0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:50.800
<v Speaker 1>key to that outermost layer of encryption is the guard

0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:55.480
<v Speaker 1>relay or entrigue relay, the first relay my request will encounter.

0:17:56.080 --> 0:17:59.639
<v Speaker 1>So if you think of it as data in the center,

0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:04.760
<v Speaker 1>you have layer three around that, layer two around that,

0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:08.600
<v Speaker 1>and layer one on the outermost layer. I send my

0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:11.440
<v Speaker 1>request out, I say I want to see super secret

0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:14.680
<v Speaker 1>site X, and I'm I'm using my tour network browser.

0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:19.240
<v Speaker 1>The request then goes to that entry or guard relay,

0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:22.400
<v Speaker 1>which has that first key to decrypt just the outer

0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:25.439
<v Speaker 1>layer of encryption. That's all it can do. So it

0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:31.200
<v Speaker 1>sees that it's got an incoming request from me. Uh,

0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:33.639
<v Speaker 1>it knows that I'm the one requesting it, but it

0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:37.000
<v Speaker 1>doesn't know what I'm requesting. All it knows is here's

0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:40.240
<v Speaker 1>a here's a big encrypted data package. It uses the

0:18:40.320 --> 0:18:43.480
<v Speaker 1>key to decrypt that outermost layer of protection around my request.

0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:47.000
<v Speaker 1>The only thing it sees is where it needs to

0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:50.760
<v Speaker 1>send that data packet two. Next, it doesn't know what's

0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:54.280
<v Speaker 1>inside the other layers of encryption. It just knows, oh,

0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:57.760
<v Speaker 1>I need to send this to this specific middle relay,

0:18:57.840 --> 0:19:01.360
<v Speaker 1>and so it does. The middle relay, all it knows

0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:06.040
<v Speaker 1>is that just received an encrypted package from relay number one,

0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:11.080
<v Speaker 1>the entry relay, and it uses it's key to decode

0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:16.080
<v Speaker 1>that particular layer mid layer two, and all it sees

0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:18.280
<v Speaker 1>is where it needs to send it to next, the

0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:22.840
<v Speaker 1>exit relay. So the middle relay doesn't know that that

0:19:23.080 --> 0:19:26.960
<v Speaker 1>initial request came from you at all. It just knows

0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:29.399
<v Speaker 1>that the entry relay was the one that sent it

0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:31.399
<v Speaker 1>to it, and the exit relay is the one that

0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:37.720
<v Speaker 1>sends it to. So then the middle relay unwraps that

0:19:38.359 --> 0:19:42.639
<v Speaker 1>and then sends it on to the exit relay, which

0:19:42.840 --> 0:19:46.679
<v Speaker 1>uses its key to finally unwrap the data. So the

0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:49.200
<v Speaker 1>exit relay actually gets to see the data you sent.

0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:52.640
<v Speaker 1>In fact, that's a very important thing to to stress.

0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:57.440
<v Speaker 1>The exit relay, the last relay in the Tor network

0:19:57.640 --> 0:20:01.840
<v Speaker 1>to send something out to the Destiny nation. It's sending

0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:05.320
<v Speaker 1>that information out as if it is your machine, so

0:20:05.400 --> 0:20:09.040
<v Speaker 1>it can see exactly what you are sending out, and

0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:12.560
<v Speaker 1>if you're sending out unencrypted information, it can see all

0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:16.280
<v Speaker 1>of that. If it's in clear text, it can see

0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:19.800
<v Speaker 1>all that, including things like user names and passwords. So

0:20:20.320 --> 0:20:23.560
<v Speaker 1>with that in mind, you have to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>you are pretty comfortable with the fact that there is

0:20:27.240 --> 0:20:31.720
<v Speaker 1>a machine out there that is getting access to all

0:20:31.720 --> 0:20:36.480
<v Speaker 1>of that stuff. If you're sending out unencrypted communications, if

0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:38.560
<v Speaker 1>you've got another level of encryption on there, if you're

0:20:38.600 --> 0:20:43.119
<v Speaker 1>using something like HTTPS, then that's not as big a

0:20:43.119 --> 0:20:46.400
<v Speaker 1>concern because that information is still encrypted as it passes

0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:51.359
<v Speaker 1>through that exit relay. But if you're using clear text,

0:20:52.600 --> 0:20:56.440
<v Speaker 1>boy howdy, that could be a dangerous thing. If the

0:20:56.760 --> 0:21:02.040
<v Speaker 1>person who owns that exit relay is not ethical, they

0:21:02.160 --> 0:21:08.880
<v Speaker 1>might take advantage of that information. Uh So, guard relays,

0:21:08.920 --> 0:21:12.800
<v Speaker 1>those entry points to the Tour network are particularly vulnerable

0:21:12.840 --> 0:21:15.560
<v Speaker 1>if an oppressive government wants to cut off access to Tour.

0:21:16.200 --> 0:21:19.159
<v Speaker 1>To connect to a guard relay, your client has to

0:21:19.240 --> 0:21:22.560
<v Speaker 1>know which machines it can communicate with, or which one

0:21:22.720 --> 0:21:26.960
<v Speaker 1>specific specifically it needs to communicate with, which means somewhere

0:21:27.720 --> 0:21:30.360
<v Speaker 1>there has to be a list of all the different

0:21:30.480 --> 0:21:34.439
<v Speaker 1>relays on the Tour network, because otherwise there's no way

0:21:34.520 --> 0:21:38.320
<v Speaker 1>to build these circuits of relays where it goes from

0:21:38.400 --> 0:21:42.080
<v Speaker 1>client to guard relay to middle relay to exit relay.

0:21:42.359 --> 0:21:44.480
<v Speaker 1>So you have to have a list somewhere. But lists

0:21:44.520 --> 0:21:47.360
<v Speaker 1>are dangerous, right, What if an oppressive government gets hold

0:21:47.359 --> 0:21:50.080
<v Speaker 1>of that list, then they just aim to shut down

0:21:50.080 --> 0:21:53.720
<v Speaker 1>those machines and no more Tour network, or they aim

0:21:53.800 --> 0:21:57.480
<v Speaker 1>to try and spy on those machines and try to

0:21:57.600 --> 0:22:01.919
<v Speaker 1>decrypt the information through some means or another. So you

0:22:02.920 --> 0:22:07.400
<v Speaker 1>to protect the guard relays from getting blacklisted. Tour actually

0:22:07.440 --> 0:22:11.840
<v Speaker 1>maintains a secret internal list of guard relays. They are

0:22:11.880 --> 0:22:16.000
<v Speaker 1>called bridges. These are a subset of entry relays, a

0:22:16.040 --> 0:22:21.280
<v Speaker 1>subset of those entry slash guard relays. Bridges are uh

0:22:21.400 --> 0:22:24.720
<v Speaker 1>The overall list is secret. So when you download and

0:22:24.800 --> 0:22:28.879
<v Speaker 1>launch a Tour client. When you do that, your client

0:22:29.000 --> 0:22:35.879
<v Speaker 1>requests from the Tour network a uh uh an entry

0:22:35.920 --> 0:22:38.960
<v Speaker 1>point where do I start? So I can start making

0:22:39.000 --> 0:22:44.119
<v Speaker 1>these encryption keys. And if it needs to be a bridge,

0:22:44.119 --> 0:22:47.200
<v Speaker 1>then the bridge one will send you a small selection

0:22:47.880 --> 0:22:51.080
<v Speaker 1>of potential bridges, but not the whole list. That way,

0:22:51.920 --> 0:22:56.960
<v Speaker 1>if that request is compromised in any way, the whole

0:22:57.000 --> 0:23:00.879
<v Speaker 1>list as it remains safe, right, or most of the

0:23:00.960 --> 0:23:03.520
<v Speaker 1>less remains safe, only the ones that were shared are

0:23:03.600 --> 0:23:10.480
<v Speaker 1>compromised the rest remain secret. There remains safe, so you

0:23:10.520 --> 0:23:16.240
<v Speaker 1>can always recruit more volunteers to run tour software. So

0:23:16.280 --> 0:23:19.480
<v Speaker 1>if you lose some, if if the government shut some down,

0:23:19.800 --> 0:23:22.760
<v Speaker 1>or if a government shuts some down because they're not

0:23:22.840 --> 0:23:26.720
<v Speaker 1>all located in the United States, then you can attempt

0:23:26.760 --> 0:23:31.439
<v Speaker 1>to replace them with new volunteers. The middle relay and

0:23:32.080 --> 0:23:36.440
<v Speaker 1>exit relay are are different. The exit relays are also

0:23:36.600 --> 0:23:40.120
<v Speaker 1>kind of a big target because if you shut down

0:23:40.119 --> 0:23:43.800
<v Speaker 1>the exit relays then information can't pass from the tour

0:23:43.920 --> 0:23:48.400
<v Speaker 1>network to their destinations. But that's also pretty tricky. They

0:23:48.400 --> 0:23:56.320
<v Speaker 1>tend to be restricted to very trustworthy volunteers. Entry and

0:23:56.440 --> 0:24:00.880
<v Speaker 1>middle points tend to be a little less of problem

0:24:00.920 --> 0:24:04.440
<v Speaker 1>from that perspective, mostly because you've got so many levels

0:24:04.480 --> 0:24:09.320
<v Speaker 1>of encryption wrapping around that data. But exit relays, because

0:24:09.480 --> 0:24:12.880
<v Speaker 1>of the sensitivity to data and because they are tempting targets,

0:24:13.119 --> 0:24:18.440
<v Speaker 1>tend to be more trustworthy in general, and they're they're

0:24:18.440 --> 0:24:21.199
<v Speaker 1>frequent reviews to make sure that those exit points are

0:24:21.240 --> 0:24:26.479
<v Speaker 1>trustworthy and no one's being a jerk face, I guess.

0:24:27.359 --> 0:24:30.240
<v Speaker 1>So the important thing to remember is that the entry

0:24:30.280 --> 0:24:33.280
<v Speaker 1>and middle relays have no way of knowing what is

0:24:33.320 --> 0:24:37.440
<v Speaker 1>in that data. Request you're sending UM and the only

0:24:37.480 --> 0:24:39.320
<v Speaker 1>one that does know is the exit relay before it

0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:44.720
<v Speaker 1>sends it onto the to the destination AH. The maintenance

0:24:44.920 --> 0:24:49.879
<v Speaker 1>for this entire network falls to about ten pivotal tour

0:24:50.040 --> 0:24:55.800
<v Speaker 1>nodes called directory authorities. Nine of those contain lists of

0:24:55.840 --> 0:24:59.200
<v Speaker 1>the relays, the tenth contains a list of the bridges.

0:25:00.160 --> 0:25:05.679
<v Speaker 1>Those ten directory authorities are located mostly in Europe and

0:25:05.680 --> 0:25:09.320
<v Speaker 1>the United States. In fact, Central and Eastern Europe and

0:25:09.359 --> 0:25:14.399
<v Speaker 1>the United States mainly and UH. They are the backbone

0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:17.440
<v Speaker 1>of the Tour network. Using tour can help keep your

0:25:17.440 --> 0:25:20.320
<v Speaker 1>communications secret. If you were to send a request through

0:25:20.359 --> 0:25:23.760
<v Speaker 1>a browser, normally there'd be several points along the way

0:25:23.760 --> 0:25:27.160
<v Speaker 1>where someone could potentially snoop on your traffic. So let's

0:25:27.160 --> 0:25:29.959
<v Speaker 1>say that you're connecting. Let's say you're in a coffee

0:25:29.960 --> 0:25:33.040
<v Speaker 1>shop and you're on a laptop and you want to

0:25:33.080 --> 0:25:36.159
<v Speaker 1>connect to the Internet and you're just using regular connections.

0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:39.160
<v Speaker 1>So if you connect through the coffee shops WiFi, there

0:25:39.160 --> 0:25:43.280
<v Speaker 1>could be someone at that coffee shop who's sniffing WiFi

0:25:43.359 --> 0:25:47.880
<v Speaker 1>packets and trying to spy on communications that are going

0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:52.240
<v Speaker 1>through the coffee shops WiFi network. And that's before it

0:25:52.280 --> 0:25:55.600
<v Speaker 1>ever gets to an Internet service provider or the Internet

0:25:55.600 --> 0:26:00.200
<v Speaker 1>at large. It's purely local. That's a problem no matter better,

0:26:00.520 --> 0:26:04.320
<v Speaker 1>whether you're using tour or a normal browser. You don't

0:26:04.400 --> 0:26:07.600
<v Speaker 1>want to try and do any sort of secure browsing

0:26:08.280 --> 0:26:12.800
<v Speaker 1>over an open WiFi network. That's that would be ridiculous.

0:26:13.560 --> 0:26:16.320
<v Speaker 1>It would be like putting all your money in a

0:26:16.560 --> 0:26:20.640
<v Speaker 1>super super duper high security vault and leaving the back

0:26:20.680 --> 0:26:23.320
<v Speaker 1>door of the vault open. It would be like putting

0:26:23.320 --> 0:26:24.879
<v Speaker 1>a back door in the vault in the first place.

0:26:24.960 --> 0:26:28.760
<v Speaker 1>It's not a good idea. So from that point, from

0:26:28.760 --> 0:26:31.159
<v Speaker 1>the WiFi point, the information gets into the I s P.

0:26:31.640 --> 0:26:34.479
<v Speaker 1>The I s P can see both where requests are

0:26:34.520 --> 0:26:38.239
<v Speaker 1>coming from as in your location, and what the request is,

0:26:38.320 --> 0:26:41.119
<v Speaker 1>so that the data itself, what you are doing, your

0:26:41.119 --> 0:26:44.439
<v Speaker 1>browsing activity, all of that can be recorded and is

0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:47.040
<v Speaker 1>recorded by your I s P. So if the I

0:26:47.200 --> 0:26:49.560
<v Speaker 1>s P were served with legal papers later on, or

0:26:49.600 --> 0:26:52.080
<v Speaker 1>if an organization like the n s A we're snooping

0:26:52.119 --> 0:26:54.440
<v Speaker 1>in on that I s P, your activities would be

0:26:54.840 --> 0:26:58.320
<v Speaker 1>known to them and that request would then pass from

0:26:58.320 --> 0:27:00.840
<v Speaker 1>your I s P through the inner at to the

0:27:00.880 --> 0:27:05.679
<v Speaker 1>I s P that handles whatever server that you're navigating to,

0:27:06.119 --> 0:27:09.240
<v Speaker 1>like whatever server holds the website that you are trying

0:27:09.280 --> 0:27:13.080
<v Speaker 1>to go to, and that um would mean that that

0:27:13.240 --> 0:27:17.360
<v Speaker 1>server would also know where you are and what you're

0:27:17.359 --> 0:27:20.879
<v Speaker 1>asking for obviously, and so anyone snooping on that server

0:27:21.160 --> 0:27:23.879
<v Speaker 1>would be able to determine what you're what you're up to.

0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:26.320
<v Speaker 1>So there are a lot of points along the line

0:27:26.359 --> 0:27:30.280
<v Speaker 1>where you have an unsecured UH data connection where someone

0:27:30.280 --> 0:27:33.320
<v Speaker 1>could potentially know what's going on and spy on you

0:27:33.400 --> 0:27:37.360
<v Speaker 1>and maybe steal information. If you use HTTPS, that adds

0:27:37.400 --> 0:27:40.480
<v Speaker 1>a layer of encryption on top of communications. That means

0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:45.760
<v Speaker 1>anyone looking at points between you and the server you're contacting,

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:49.040
<v Speaker 1>they can see that you're communicating in some way with

0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:52.520
<v Speaker 1>that server, right, They see that you're sending a request

0:27:52.800 --> 0:27:56.879
<v Speaker 1>to this target server, but they cannot see what the

0:27:56.920 --> 0:27:59.600
<v Speaker 1>communication is because it's encrypted, So they don't know what

0:27:59.760 --> 0:28:01.960
<v Speaker 1>you're saying. They just know you're talking to that server

0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:07.800
<v Speaker 1>and that the servers talking back to you. Uh. They do, however,

0:28:07.880 --> 0:28:11.160
<v Speaker 1>know where you are because you're not that that information

0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:14.200
<v Speaker 1>is not hidden, so they don't know what you're requesting,

0:28:14.359 --> 0:28:16.159
<v Speaker 1>but they know where you are, They know when you

0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:19.280
<v Speaker 1>requested it, and they know who you're talking to, and

0:28:19.400 --> 0:28:22.679
<v Speaker 1>that in itself can end up being a problem. If

0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:26.720
<v Speaker 1>you are working in a place that has an oppressive government,

0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:30.800
<v Speaker 1>that could be enough to get you into some hot water.

0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:34.120
<v Speaker 1>And it may be that you did nothing at all wrong,

0:28:34.800 --> 0:28:38.640
<v Speaker 1>but in the eyes of that oppressive regime, they're saying, well,

0:28:39.040 --> 0:28:42.840
<v Speaker 1>you were talking to this entity at this time from

0:28:42.880 --> 0:28:47.080
<v Speaker 1>this place, and that's all we need to come after you.

0:28:47.200 --> 0:28:51.840
<v Speaker 1>Using Tour eavesdroppers that are looking at you between you

0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:55.080
<v Speaker 1>and your I s P will know where you are,

0:28:55.880 --> 0:28:58.320
<v Speaker 1>and they'll know that you're sending communications to the Onion

0:28:58.400 --> 0:29:03.360
<v Speaker 1>router network, but they won't know what that information um

0:29:03.680 --> 0:29:06.920
<v Speaker 1>is and they don't know where the information is ultimately going, right,

0:29:07.280 --> 0:29:11.840
<v Speaker 1>They just see, okay, you're sending communications to Tour. Those

0:29:11.840 --> 0:29:16.200
<v Speaker 1>communications are already encrypted and three layers of encryption. And

0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:22.840
<v Speaker 1>because the outer layer only tells the data packet which

0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:26.800
<v Speaker 1>relay it needs to go to for the first entry relay,

0:29:27.080 --> 0:29:31.280
<v Speaker 1>for the entry relay into Tour, anyone snooping on your

0:29:31.360 --> 0:29:33.800
<v Speaker 1>data at that early stage. All they know is you're

0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:36.440
<v Speaker 1>sending information to the Tour network. But they wouldn't know

0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:40.000
<v Speaker 1>anything beyond that. They wouldn't know where the ultimate destination was,

0:29:40.680 --> 0:29:43.120
<v Speaker 1>and they wouldn't know what was actually in the information

0:29:43.240 --> 0:29:46.520
<v Speaker 1>once it hits the tour network. Now your location would

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:49.959
<v Speaker 1>be secret because it would just look like the communication

0:29:50.040 --> 0:29:51.920
<v Speaker 1>is moving from one part of the tour network to

0:29:51.960 --> 0:29:55.440
<v Speaker 1>the next part of the tour network. So it would

0:29:55.480 --> 0:29:57.280
<v Speaker 1>be safe. If anyone were trying to snoop in on

0:29:57.320 --> 0:30:01.320
<v Speaker 1>the tour network, they would just see communications passing between

0:30:01.320 --> 0:30:06.240
<v Speaker 1>relays with no meaningful information to identify you. If there

0:30:06.280 --> 0:30:09.000
<v Speaker 1>were someone sniffing at an exit relay, they could get

0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:10.920
<v Speaker 1>all the information coming out of the relay with the

0:30:10.960 --> 0:30:15.640
<v Speaker 1>exception of your physical location, So they could get whatever

0:30:15.680 --> 0:30:17.880
<v Speaker 1>the data is because it would no longer be in

0:30:17.920 --> 0:30:21.080
<v Speaker 1>that those three layers of encryption, So if it's unencrypted data,

0:30:21.120 --> 0:30:23.920
<v Speaker 1>they could get that. Uh, they could essentially know who

0:30:24.000 --> 0:30:27.160
<v Speaker 1>you are, but and where you were going, what what

0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:30.719
<v Speaker 1>the ultimate site is that your destination is, But they

0:30:30.720 --> 0:30:34.200
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't know where you are because the location would still

0:30:34.240 --> 0:30:39.240
<v Speaker 1>be Tour network. But ultimately that might not be enough

0:30:39.320 --> 0:30:43.400
<v Speaker 1>protection for you. So if you combine tour and HTTPS,

0:30:43.480 --> 0:30:48.400
<v Speaker 1>that's best because then it really limits what information any

0:30:48.520 --> 0:30:52.640
<v Speaker 1>snooper can get when their eaves dropping on you. On

0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:54.920
<v Speaker 1>the front side of the tour network, So before your

0:30:54.960 --> 0:30:58.240
<v Speaker 1>information hits Tour, the snoop would only see that you're

0:30:58.280 --> 0:31:00.320
<v Speaker 1>sending communications to Tour, but they would and be able

0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:03.440
<v Speaker 1>to see what it was because you've encoded it in

0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:06.840
<v Speaker 1>uh in you've encrypted it. Rather on the back side

0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:11.480
<v Speaker 1>of the tour network, snoops would see that there's information

0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:14.000
<v Speaker 1>coming from Tour to a site, but there'd be no

0:31:14.160 --> 0:31:19.600
<v Speaker 1>data linking you to that request, to that communication, So

0:31:20.080 --> 0:31:22.640
<v Speaker 1>all they could say is somebody is using the tour

0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:25.360
<v Speaker 1>network to connect to this site, but we don't know

0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:28.960
<v Speaker 1>who it is because the communications inside are encrypted and

0:31:29.000 --> 0:31:32.640
<v Speaker 1>the location data is masked to the tour network. So

0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:36.760
<v Speaker 1>it's the safest of all the options. Now, I went

0:31:36.760 --> 0:31:39.680
<v Speaker 1>through great links to explain at a very very high

0:31:39.800 --> 0:31:45.080
<v Speaker 1>level was going on with tour networks, because these are

0:31:45.120 --> 0:31:48.680
<v Speaker 1>the sort of links that people who visit the dark

0:31:48.760 --> 0:31:54.320
<v Speaker 1>web will go to in order to maintain their privacy

0:31:54.440 --> 0:31:57.400
<v Speaker 1>and be able to do the things they do without

0:31:57.400 --> 0:32:02.320
<v Speaker 1>getting caught, sometimes the thing as they do being extremely

0:32:02.440 --> 0:32:07.480
<v Speaker 1>illegal or unethical or both. Uh sometimes illegal but not unethical.

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:09.680
<v Speaker 1>I'll explain more in just a moment, but first let's

0:32:09.720 --> 0:32:19.959
<v Speaker 1>take another quick break to thank our sponsor. All right,

0:32:20.040 --> 0:32:24.400
<v Speaker 1>so you've installed a tour bundle and you're using HTTPS connections,

0:32:24.440 --> 0:32:28.720
<v Speaker 1>you're using a VPN to add extra encryption, extra distance.

0:32:28.760 --> 0:32:32.280
<v Speaker 1>You're protecting yourself from eavesdroppers, whether they are hackers or

0:32:32.320 --> 0:32:37.440
<v Speaker 1>oppressive governmental organizations. What are you going to find when

0:32:37.440 --> 0:32:41.400
<v Speaker 1>you go to the dark Web. Well, it's actually a

0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:43.880
<v Speaker 1>little hard to navigate. You have to look around for

0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:48.280
<v Speaker 1>various resources to find where the the sites are because

0:32:48.480 --> 0:32:53.640
<v Speaker 1>it's by its nature, it's not designed for you to

0:32:53.680 --> 0:32:55.960
<v Speaker 1>be able to have like a really effective search engine

0:32:56.560 --> 0:32:58.920
<v Speaker 1>for the dark Web. If you did, it would be

0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:02.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot easier for law enforcement to track down dark

0:33:03.000 --> 0:33:08.400
<v Speaker 1>web sites and and target them. So there are lots

0:33:08.400 --> 0:33:13.080
<v Speaker 1>of resources online that act as sort of a directory

0:33:13.200 --> 0:33:16.560
<v Speaker 1>for websites that are on the dark Web, and you

0:33:16.600 --> 0:33:21.120
<v Speaker 1>would find stuff that's of varying degrees of legality from

0:33:21.160 --> 0:33:23.840
<v Speaker 1>it's technically legal, but it's really difficult to get hold

0:33:23.880 --> 0:33:28.280
<v Speaker 1>of to this is totally illegal stuff. And it can

0:33:28.320 --> 0:33:32.840
<v Speaker 1>include things like controlled substances like drugs, like illegal drugs.

0:33:33.360 --> 0:33:36.480
<v Speaker 1>It can include sites that link you two hacker forums

0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:39.000
<v Speaker 1>where you can learn how to exploit systems. You can

0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:42.400
<v Speaker 1>take tutorials, you can talk with other hackers. You can

0:33:42.440 --> 0:33:45.680
<v Speaker 1>download malware that you could then use on other people

0:33:45.840 --> 0:33:50.440
<v Speaker 1>to exploit people or systems. You could hire hackers for

0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:53.760
<v Speaker 1>their services to do things of that nature. There are

0:33:54.040 --> 0:33:59.240
<v Speaker 1>marketplaces that sell weapons with no restrictions on them. On

0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:03.520
<v Speaker 1>this dark market. There are counterfeit goods that you could

0:34:03.520 --> 0:34:07.640
<v Speaker 1>buy super cheap that look like the real thing. Uh.

0:34:07.680 --> 0:34:12.080
<v Speaker 1>Then there's also tons and tons of data of information,

0:34:12.560 --> 0:34:16.239
<v Speaker 1>information that's been gathered through various means, often stolen through

0:34:16.280 --> 0:34:21.440
<v Speaker 1>security breaches or credit cards skimming or other methods. Now, personally,

0:34:22.440 --> 0:34:27.880
<v Speaker 1>I am mostly against purchasing anything off the dark web,

0:34:28.520 --> 0:34:32.960
<v Speaker 1>particularly dangerous stuff. I I personally find it distasteful. But

0:34:33.040 --> 0:34:36.320
<v Speaker 1>in some places you might find governments that could restrict

0:34:36.360 --> 0:34:41.200
<v Speaker 1>access to things that might be really helpful, and it's

0:34:41.239 --> 0:34:46.520
<v Speaker 1>because of the particular laws of that region. So, for example,

0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:50.440
<v Speaker 1>maybe there's an area where stuff like birth control is

0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:54.160
<v Speaker 1>really hard to get hold of, and you could argue, well,

0:34:54.200 --> 0:34:59.240
<v Speaker 1>that's unethical to deny people birth control so or or

0:34:59.280 --> 0:35:01.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, protect and from things like STDs, that kind

0:35:01.760 --> 0:35:05.600
<v Speaker 1>of stuff. So it's important to remember what is legal

0:35:05.880 --> 0:35:10.160
<v Speaker 1>and what is ethical doesn't always match up right just

0:35:10.239 --> 0:35:14.600
<v Speaker 1>because something might be illegal doesn't always mean it's unethical,

0:35:15.520 --> 0:35:19.040
<v Speaker 1>and just because something is ethical doesn't necessarily mean it's legal.

0:35:19.400 --> 0:35:23.320
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of leeway there. Still, there's an awful

0:35:23.400 --> 0:35:27.440
<v Speaker 1>lot of dangerous and questionable stuff on these dark markets,

0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:32.480
<v Speaker 1>including stuff that could really seriously cause harm to yourself

0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:37.440
<v Speaker 1>or others, and some of it exploits innocent victims. So

0:35:37.520 --> 0:35:40.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm not for any of that. Like I I'd rather

0:35:40.160 --> 0:35:43.439
<v Speaker 1>not see anyone hurt themselves or hurt someone else, and

0:35:43.520 --> 0:35:48.120
<v Speaker 1>so for that reason, I am pretty negative toward these

0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:51.040
<v Speaker 1>dark markets. But there's a lot of money to be

0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:55.000
<v Speaker 1>made there, so obviously they're going to exist. Purchasing stuff

0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:57.560
<v Speaker 1>on the dark market obviously comes with its own risks.

0:35:57.920 --> 0:36:01.440
<v Speaker 1>Users tend to deal almost exclusively cryptocurrency, like I mentioned,

0:36:01.440 --> 0:36:05.000
<v Speaker 1>because you don't want those purchases to be traced back

0:36:05.040 --> 0:36:07.839
<v Speaker 1>to you. Using your own personal credit card to buy

0:36:07.960 --> 0:36:11.799
<v Speaker 1>illegal substances is a pretty dumb thing to do. But

0:36:11.880 --> 0:36:14.879
<v Speaker 1>it's not all black markets filled with illegal materials. There's

0:36:14.880 --> 0:36:18.239
<v Speaker 1>also gambling sites where you can take a chance to

0:36:18.280 --> 0:36:21.680
<v Speaker 1>win money through various online casino games. Those may not

0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:24.680
<v Speaker 1>be legal in your area, but you can find them online.

0:36:25.239 --> 0:36:30.200
<v Speaker 1>Um I would seriously questioned the validity of those sites

0:36:30.239 --> 0:36:34.319
<v Speaker 1>before engaging in online games of chance. But if that's

0:36:34.360 --> 0:36:37.000
<v Speaker 1>your thing, those can be found on the deep web.

0:36:37.360 --> 0:36:40.840
<v Speaker 1>There are information exchanges dedicated to share as much information

0:36:40.880 --> 0:36:44.640
<v Speaker 1>as possible, essentially kind of the dark web version of

0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:47.919
<v Speaker 1>wiki leaks, sort of a whistleblower kind of approach. There's

0:36:47.920 --> 0:36:52.040
<v Speaker 1>obviously a lot of pornographic material on the dark web too,

0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:58.720
<v Speaker 1>things that again would not really fly in the surface web,

0:36:58.840 --> 0:37:02.880
<v Speaker 1>even uh uh, you know, stuff that's of definite questionable

0:37:02.960 --> 0:37:07.240
<v Speaker 1>legality or is straight out illegal and ethical. You can

0:37:07.440 --> 0:37:10.120
<v Speaker 1>find it much more easily on the dark web because

0:37:10.400 --> 0:37:13.600
<v Speaker 1>there's much less chance of the people who are dealing

0:37:13.600 --> 0:37:18.280
<v Speaker 1>in it of getting caught. It can get very upsetting,

0:37:18.400 --> 0:37:22.640
<v Speaker 1>very quickly. Actually, uh, these sites are not necessarily the

0:37:22.680 --> 0:37:24.920
<v Speaker 1>most reliable entities out there. You can look at a

0:37:24.960 --> 0:37:27.760
<v Speaker 1>directory and say, oh, I'm gonna go visit this particular

0:37:27.840 --> 0:37:29.759
<v Speaker 1>side on the dark web, and then you try and

0:37:29.920 --> 0:37:32.560
<v Speaker 1>visit it. You type in the long and complicated u

0:37:32.640 --> 0:37:37.200
<v Speaker 1>r L that makes no seemingly seemingly makes no sense,

0:37:37.440 --> 0:37:39.680
<v Speaker 1>and then you get an error back after you wait

0:37:39.719 --> 0:37:42.879
<v Speaker 1>forever for the page to load. Uh. Or you might

0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:45.920
<v Speaker 1>find that the thing you purchased never gets to you,

0:37:45.920 --> 0:37:48.000
<v Speaker 1>you get scammed out of money, or you go to

0:37:48.040 --> 0:37:50.560
<v Speaker 1>a gambling site and you find out that not only

0:37:50.600 --> 0:37:53.360
<v Speaker 1>did you not win anything, but they took extra money

0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:59.040
<v Speaker 1>from you. Um. They're also are sites that are frequent

0:37:59.080 --> 0:38:03.239
<v Speaker 1>targets of various enforcement agencies for obvious reasons, so things

0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:06.040
<v Speaker 1>like markets like the Silk Road would get taken down.

0:38:06.600 --> 0:38:08.720
<v Speaker 1>And that means the connection points in the dark web

0:38:08.920 --> 0:38:12.680
<v Speaker 1>are constantly shifting as sites come online or go offline.

0:38:12.960 --> 0:38:15.880
<v Speaker 1>They are not as constant as most of the stuff

0:38:15.920 --> 0:38:19.399
<v Speaker 1>we see on the surface web, So navigating the dark

0:38:19.440 --> 0:38:22.000
<v Speaker 1>webs pretty slow due to all those jumps that you're

0:38:22.040 --> 0:38:25.040
<v Speaker 1>making in order for you to visit it safely, and

0:38:25.320 --> 0:38:27.680
<v Speaker 1>you might end up just getting an error message, which

0:38:27.719 --> 0:38:32.440
<v Speaker 1>can get really frustrating. Dark websites also have a special designation.

0:38:32.520 --> 0:38:34.839
<v Speaker 1>You don't get a dot com or a dot org

0:38:34.960 --> 0:38:39.399
<v Speaker 1>type top level domain. You see a dot onion designation.

0:38:39.880 --> 0:38:42.560
<v Speaker 1>Now that's not an official route in the domain name system,

0:38:42.680 --> 0:38:46.120
<v Speaker 1>but is a way of designating a site as being

0:38:46.320 --> 0:38:51.600
<v Speaker 1>a tour only accessible site. And I think there are

0:38:51.640 --> 0:38:54.680
<v Speaker 1>some very legitimate uses for the dark web. I don't

0:38:54.840 --> 0:38:57.920
<v Speaker 1>mean to suggest that it's only a place where criminals

0:38:57.960 --> 0:39:02.239
<v Speaker 1>go or illegal activity is the only thing that happens there. So,

0:39:02.320 --> 0:39:05.920
<v Speaker 1>for example, let's say you are an ambassador, and you're

0:39:05.920 --> 0:39:10.120
<v Speaker 1>an ambassador to a nation that has known antagonistic views

0:39:10.200 --> 0:39:14.279
<v Speaker 1>towards your home country, the country you are representing. So

0:39:14.360 --> 0:39:17.520
<v Speaker 1>you're an ambassador to some country that is hostile at

0:39:17.560 --> 0:39:20.880
<v Speaker 1>least in some degree towards your home, you would probably

0:39:20.920 --> 0:39:24.600
<v Speaker 1>want a secure means to communicate back to your home country.

0:39:24.719 --> 0:39:27.680
<v Speaker 1>When you're trying to send messages back home, whether whether

0:39:27.760 --> 0:39:32.560
<v Speaker 1>it's to your loved ones or to coworkers or your government,

0:39:32.640 --> 0:39:34.839
<v Speaker 1>or whatever it may be, you want to be able

0:39:34.840 --> 0:39:38.799
<v Speaker 1>to make sure those communications are secure, that the government

0:39:38.920 --> 0:39:42.040
<v Speaker 1>that is at least some level hostile towards your home

0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:46.920
<v Speaker 1>isn't snooping on what you have to say and either

0:39:47.800 --> 0:39:52.120
<v Speaker 1>making plans to do terrible things or to alter the

0:39:52.200 --> 0:39:54.680
<v Speaker 1>data in some way or prevent it from getting to

0:39:54.680 --> 0:39:57.280
<v Speaker 1>where it needs to go. Having a method to encrypt

0:39:57.280 --> 0:39:59.960
<v Speaker 1>the messages and hide your location would be really help

0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:02.719
<v Speaker 1>full when you're sending sensitive information back home, and some

0:40:02.800 --> 0:40:05.760
<v Speaker 1>of the sites on the dark Web are all about

0:40:06.320 --> 0:40:10.000
<v Speaker 1>encrypted communications so that you can have these kind of

0:40:10.040 --> 0:40:14.360
<v Speaker 1>communications between people and not worry about third parties snooping

0:40:14.360 --> 0:40:18.000
<v Speaker 1>in on it. So there are a lot of opportunities

0:40:18.000 --> 0:40:21.799
<v Speaker 1>for people like protesters or whistleblowers or people who are

0:40:21.800 --> 0:40:24.360
<v Speaker 1>living under oppressive regimes to use the dark web to

0:40:24.440 --> 0:40:26.880
<v Speaker 1>send information and files back and forth. So it is

0:40:26.920 --> 0:40:29.480
<v Speaker 1>a valuable resource. It's just that when you have a

0:40:29.480 --> 0:40:31.880
<v Speaker 1>resource like this that's valuable the way you can say

0:40:31.920 --> 0:40:35.400
<v Speaker 1>there are legitimate uses where someone who is concerned about

0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:40.560
<v Speaker 1>government overreach wants to be able to communicate freely with others.

0:40:41.040 --> 0:40:44.920
<v Speaker 1>They're they're legitimate cases where that should be allowed. It

0:40:44.960 --> 0:40:48.799
<v Speaker 1>also opens up the opportunity for these dark markets. I

0:40:48.800 --> 0:40:51.480
<v Speaker 1>mean there's again, if there's money to be made, if

0:40:51.480 --> 0:40:56.120
<v Speaker 1>there's demand, the supply will follow. So that is an

0:40:56.160 --> 0:41:00.080
<v Speaker 1>overview of the dark web. I do not recommend and

0:41:00.760 --> 0:41:03.879
<v Speaker 1>just checking it out for fun zies. If you are

0:41:03.960 --> 0:41:06.120
<v Speaker 1>going to check it out, I do recommend you use

0:41:06.160 --> 0:41:09.200
<v Speaker 1>a VPN and that you use to our browser, and

0:41:09.280 --> 0:41:13.080
<v Speaker 1>that you enable all the security features. You don't have

0:41:13.120 --> 0:41:17.840
<v Speaker 1>stuff like JavaScript turned on, and you are super careful

0:41:18.040 --> 0:41:24.480
<v Speaker 1>because even if you're not doing anything illegal or unethical yourself,

0:41:25.200 --> 0:41:28.319
<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of a lot of entities on

0:41:28.360 --> 0:41:31.640
<v Speaker 1>the dark web that will jump at the chance of

0:41:31.680 --> 0:41:35.760
<v Speaker 1>taking advantage of people who are not covering their tracks properly,

0:41:36.200 --> 0:41:41.239
<v Speaker 1>so be careful out there. Well, that wraps up this discussion.

0:41:41.280 --> 0:41:43.560
<v Speaker 1>If you guys have any suggestions for future episodes of

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0:41:53.960 --> 0:41:58.040
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0:42:00.640 --> 0:42:03.799
<v Speaker 1>It's at t public dot com slash tech Stuff. You

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