WEBVTT - Social Distancing

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<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, I'm Peter McNerney, like exciting a beat intro. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Beth Newell. I can't wait. I'm so excited. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel good. I took a nap today. You slept all day.

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<v Speaker 1>No I didn't. I was hyperbolic, But you took a

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<v Speaker 1>took a major nap. It was like an hour or two.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it was a major in the sense that I

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<v Speaker 1>don't usually take naps. I think it was more than

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<v Speaker 1>two hours. I'm not complaining. I was just worried that

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<v Speaker 1>you were something was wrong. You woke up and you

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<v Speaker 1>were all well rested. Well, I well, okay. So the

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<v Speaker 1>elephant in the room, around the whole globe, fin in

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<v Speaker 1>the on the planet is coronavirus, and so I, as

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<v Speaker 1>usual as a virgo, I like to plan. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to start strong with the positivity where our kids

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<v Speaker 1>are off school for two weeks um and so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just trying. I'm trying. This is not normal, this

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<v Speaker 1>is not this seems so normal for where we are

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<v Speaker 1>right now. I know it's not necessarily true for I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I have country. I have friends around the country,

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<v Speaker 1>like I have friends in l A and Richmond and Pittsburgh,

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<v Speaker 1>and like they are, they're feeling the panics like more.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's hitting the the pressure to lockdown.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's hitting other parts of the country

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<v Speaker 1>more quickly than here in terms of how how fast

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<v Speaker 1>the disease got here, because we knew that coronavirus was

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<v Speaker 1>hitting a town over for us for days and they

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<v Speaker 1>were kind of like barely putting together a response. And

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<v Speaker 1>now I think people are starting around the country. You're

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<v Speaker 1>starting to realize this is an issue, and they're locking down,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe even before they kind of need to. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like this is so unprecedented. I don't know what the

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<v Speaker 1>right answer is in terms of our response. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not everyone's everyone's pretending to be an expert. Everyone

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<v Speaker 1>and an expert. I'm guilty of this. I'm sure if

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<v Speaker 1>you listen to the podcast, I probably spoke last week

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<v Speaker 1>with some authority about something I had no authority. There's

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<v Speaker 1>so many like self ordained experts on the internet, and

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<v Speaker 1>also so little like accurate information going out in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of what's happening, like especially from our federal government. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but I I you know, I got to dry cough.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you Okay, too soon. Not funny, not funny. So

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<v Speaker 1>let me just drink some more whiskey as we're doing

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<v Speaker 1>many coping mechanisms. Um. So I'm trying to enter this

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks of no school strong and just like try

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<v Speaker 1>to have some healthy coping mechanisms, which was I went

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<v Speaker 1>for a jog today. We took the kids on a

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<v Speaker 1>nature walk, social distancing, and then my body was like

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<v Speaker 1>that's enough. I need a long nap. Um this three

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<v Speaker 1>hour nap and these dry coughs. Did you have coronavirus?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, let's not pretend that what just happened didn't

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<v Speaker 1>just happen, which is Beth had me stop. I just

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<v Speaker 1>had a little cop I had like a throat tickle

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<v Speaker 1>thing going on. Oh that good thing. That's a symptom

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<v Speaker 1>of the pandemic that's hitting our symptom. I don't I

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<v Speaker 1>don't feel sick. But I'll tell you one thing that

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<v Speaker 1>is happening that I I don't think. Um. I so

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<v Speaker 1>last week I was carrying I had like a really

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<v Speaker 1>bad day with the kids. I can't remember which day,

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<v Speaker 1>just getting them home from school and may even that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, sometimes they get tired and hungry and they

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<v Speaker 1>melt down on the way home, so I had to

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<v Speaker 1>carry Mayven inside. So she's on my hip and her

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<v Speaker 1>head is next to my head and she's screaming, tantruming,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get me to stop, and she's screaming in

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<v Speaker 1>my ear. And when I woke up the next morning,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a little bit of blood, like dried blood

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<v Speaker 1>in my ear, and I think she might have slightly

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<v Speaker 1>like ruptured my ear drum. No big deal, um, but

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<v Speaker 1>I looked like I looked this up online and looked

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<v Speaker 1>at for reasons why her ear is bleeding, and that

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<v Speaker 1>seemed like the most plausible one. And it's also one

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't really require any treatment. So it seems like

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<v Speaker 1>a really dumb time to go to urgent care when

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<v Speaker 1>there's like infectious disease spreading around us. So I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to ignore it. But I do like my ear does

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<v Speaker 1>I feel just like a tiny bit pressured, if that

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense. Yeah? Um, and so yeah, so kids are

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<v Speaker 1>a nightmare and that's the lesson. Um, well, I hope

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<v Speaker 1>it's to pop deer drum and uh not not this disease.

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<v Speaker 1>It's definitely not this disease, isn't I trust me? That

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<v Speaker 1>I googled coronavirus ear bleeding and that it's not a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Um um. So yes, we are very close to New Rochelle,

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<v Speaker 1>which is locked down. Was the first town is totally

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<v Speaker 1>locked down, and now our schools are locked down. Is

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<v Speaker 1>it totally locked They just did like a one mile radio.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not totally locked down, but all the schools and

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<v Speaker 1>all now all their their public spaces. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>the response around here has been okay so far. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know how bad it's going to get in

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<v Speaker 1>New York City, and that's concerning. But like the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that they canceled school for two weeks I think is good.

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<v Speaker 1>The fact that they waited until after Friday to give

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<v Speaker 1>us time to finish up the week. I think given

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<v Speaker 1>the situation, what my concern is like, we don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how long this lockdown is going to last and what

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be necessary and this I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>this coronavirus situation might go on from Hanson months, so like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't think you want to pull the

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<v Speaker 1>trigger too soon on this, but it's like it's so

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<v Speaker 1>hard to tell with all the weird information. Well, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what's clear at this point, you know, it's the great

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<v Speaker 1>danger is that everyone too many people get sick too

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<v Speaker 1>quickly in it overwhelms the health care system. I know.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I saw something online today that was like

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<v Speaker 1>trying to debunk that theory and say that that's not good.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I didn't have time to read it, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I lost it. And well, this is every conversation

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<v Speaker 1>is somebody sees something like that and then they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw a thing that but I don't know, and

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<v Speaker 1>so we're all well. And then sometimes I understand like

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<v Speaker 1>people who are like, it's just a flu, it's nothing, like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's wrong. You should we should be taking this seriously

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<v Speaker 1>and we should be social distancing. But then sometimes I

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<v Speaker 1>think people put stuff out to try to calm people down,

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<v Speaker 1>and then other people are like, no, you can't be calm. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone has to be panicked. It's like there's a there's

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<v Speaker 1>just like a lot of stuff flying around out there

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<v Speaker 1>where I think you should stand for him, go to

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<v Speaker 1>the CDC website, stuff like that, but you should try

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<v Speaker 1>to stay offline right now because I think it's just

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<v Speaker 1>like a there's a lot of fearmongering. You should be

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<v Speaker 1>prepared and vigilant and on top of that positive. Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>it is. That's take care of your mental health right

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<v Speaker 1>now while we're in this very uncertain be smart, but yes,

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<v Speaker 1>don't don't kill yourself. Don't go don't kill yourself. Okay, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>rate up, follow the rules, be safe, stay away from

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<v Speaker 1>each other, and lock it down and then enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 1>I am taking our children um away from here to

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<v Speaker 1>a to a family member's house that's totally empty right now,

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<v Speaker 1>away from everybody, because a few hours away. Just for

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<v Speaker 1>anyone's who's concerned that we are spreading disease from our

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<v Speaker 1>the center of disease, we are. We have socially isolated

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<v Speaker 1>now for a day or two. I think we're okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to try not to you're taking the kids,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, for the record, I'm taking them directly to

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<v Speaker 1>a house and literally not stopping until we get there

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<v Speaker 1>and ordering groceries. So we're not spreading If we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to try it, yeah, I don't. Personally, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>we have it right now. I know it could be incubating,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's been my fear all along, because our children

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<v Speaker 1>are disgusting and lick everything, and we're in a huge

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<v Speaker 1>freaking hotspot right now. But I don't think so far.

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<v Speaker 1>Knock on what I don't think we have it? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but my parents were supposed to come this past weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>the story part it's benefit. It was postponed to name

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<v Speaker 1>my parents were to come, and uh, actually it was

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<v Speaker 1>my little brother. It was like, you, guys, you can't come.

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<v Speaker 1>You shouldn't, you know, and they're they're older, they're anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Your little brother has a baby too. Well, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>he's worried about your parents. No, no, yeah, we're all

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<v Speaker 1>of my brothers and I are all reading statistics. We

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<v Speaker 1>know that we are low risk, but our parents are

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<v Speaker 1>older and they're higher risks. We said, they put they

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<v Speaker 1>put your parents are healthy. I did read today that

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<v Speaker 1>people there's like a list of things that put you

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<v Speaker 1>at risk, and it said people with endocrine issues are

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<v Speaker 1>more at risk, which is like not great news for

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<v Speaker 1>me because of my thyroid issues. What. Um, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like, I don't really know what that means. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't get more information on that little little Uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Ill. I've probably said this before, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't fear death. Um, I thing, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>you've ever said that. Well, I personally, I believe there's

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<v Speaker 1>an afterlife, and I believe in reincarnation, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>that the world that we currently live in is much

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<v Speaker 1>more of a pressure cooker painful situation than we will

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<v Speaker 1>ever experience on the other side. And if I'm taken

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<v Speaker 1>from here, my concern is for you guys, but not

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<v Speaker 1>for me. Boy. You know what, It is so funny

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't believe any of that. But I have

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<v Speaker 1>a similar attitude where I mean, it's easy to say

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<v Speaker 1>when you're healthy and relatively young to say, like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't fear death, but I don't bother worrying about it. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a very like you know, you die and there's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing type of attitude. So the conclusion is there's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>I can do about it. Let me enjoy being here

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<v Speaker 1>and and part of that is loving the people I'm

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<v Speaker 1>around and making them happy. I also, like, because I'm,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a crazy person and I'm into manifesting type stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I just don't think it's a good idea

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<v Speaker 1>to like feed the fear in these situations. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think we should be realistic and like, I don't not

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<v Speaker 1>believe in science. I know this is disease is real

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<v Speaker 1>and people will die from it, so we should try

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<v Speaker 1>to be careful about spreading it. But prepared and positive. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>prepared and positive, guys, Be prepared and be positive and

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<v Speaker 1>take care of yourselves. I really do think like, especially

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<v Speaker 1>as a parent, we've kind of, um unwillingly been subjected

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<v Speaker 1>to a lot of social isolation in the last two years,

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<v Speaker 1>and I do think we're like more prepared for this

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<v Speaker 1>than other people, Like because we're lonely, is that what

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying. No, just because we've had to develop a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of coping mechanisms for the fact that, like we

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<v Speaker 1>we can't commute into the city to hang out all

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<v Speaker 1>the time and like do whatever we want, and sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>we don't get to leave the house for days, and

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<v Speaker 1>we you know, like I like I in a way,

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<v Speaker 1>I sort of feel like we've been preparing for this.

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<v Speaker 1>We're we're you are an introvert and I'm a secret introvert,

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<v Speaker 1>and that we we get sick of people quickly and

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<v Speaker 1>want to be by ourselves. So yeah, I also like,

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<v Speaker 1>prior to this, I was already feeling pretty overloaded with

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<v Speaker 1>the world and my workload and all this stuff, and

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff is kind of still there, but it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of nice to be in a place where everyone is

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<v Speaker 1>like overloaded and like confused about what's happening. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is our careers as entertainers. This is this question

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<v Speaker 1>mark of what's next has been there all along, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like sort of refreshing that like, now we're all

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<v Speaker 1>in this place of like what's going to happen? Not

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<v Speaker 1>to I totally relate to what you're saying, not to

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<v Speaker 1>downplay the people that are now suddenly in a very

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<v Speaker 1>are your real tricky financial situation. Like we have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of friends who have a gig based work that

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly he's just super dried up. Um, you know I

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<v Speaker 1>work where the Magnet Theater where I work, Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>shuts out for two weeks, no ticket sales, no classes,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's a huge challenge. It's a good time to

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<v Speaker 1>check in on people, like your elderly neighbors and see

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<v Speaker 1>if you can go like pick up their prescriptions for them,

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<v Speaker 1>or if you have like friends who our stay at

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<v Speaker 1>home parents or whatever they need groceres. Like it's just

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<v Speaker 1>a good time to check in with people if they're

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<v Speaker 1>if they're gig economy, revenue has dried up. If you

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<v Speaker 1>can send them some groceries, if you have the ability

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<v Speaker 1>to do that kind of thing, it's a good idea. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you have people that you pay for for

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<v Speaker 1>things that you're canceling, maybe pay them anyway. Yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about canceling our cleaning lady for this week and

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<v Speaker 1>just paying her. Um, we have I have to figure

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<v Speaker 1>how to do that. I like, our cleaning lady showed

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<v Speaker 1>up this week on a day that was not her

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<v Speaker 1>day of the week to clean and not her week

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<v Speaker 1>that she usually comes because she comes every other week.

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<v Speaker 1>And I like, in the midst of all this Corona stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, is she okay? Like, is everyone okay?

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<v Speaker 1>What is happening? Um, it's been just very surreal around here.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, oh boy. Yeah, and we've been oh boy,

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<v Speaker 1>it is It's crazy. You know what? Despite all that, Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, stay positive, Let's just take a second ago.

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<v Speaker 1>This is one of the this is uh one of

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<v Speaker 1>the craziest things I have, um in my life. I

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<v Speaker 1>have a yoga teacher that I don't actually see her

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<v Speaker 1>very much in person, but she was a prenatal yoga teacher.

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<v Speaker 1>I had and then we've like I just I stay

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<v Speaker 1>in touch with her on Facebook um because she's also

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<v Speaker 1>like a small business owner. She now has her own

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<v Speaker 1>yoga studio and teaches meditation and and like she she

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the people in our community that was

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<v Speaker 1>like the quickest to like sort of sound the alarm

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<v Speaker 1>bells and be like this is bad, Like we should

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<v Speaker 1>we need to start doing stuff about this. And she

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<v Speaker 1>was like first she was like disinfecting her business like crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>And then a couple of days and she was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, we just need to shut this down

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<v Speaker 1>into remote classes because we don't know what's happening. This

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<v Speaker 1>disease is very close. Her son goes to school in

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<v Speaker 1>New Rochelle where the virus is sitting, and like and

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<v Speaker 1>every like she would post on Facebook a lot, and

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<v Speaker 1>so many people were treating her like a crazy person

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<v Speaker 1>and like she you know, like like one of her

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<v Speaker 1>meditation students threatened to sue her for not hosting the

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<v Speaker 1>meditation class in person. It's like, I think right now,

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<v Speaker 1>what I've seen, especially even before this with the election,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of people arguing for things that I

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<v Speaker 1>do think they need, like things like healthcare. I understand

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<v Speaker 1>people are very in need right now. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>what you have to understand about people right now is

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<v Speaker 1>that are the state of our country has made them

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<v Speaker 1>so traumatized that they're not always in the right mind

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<v Speaker 1>in their reactions two things, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Like people are just like people are losing it and

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<v Speaker 1>it's but it's not their fault. It's not their fault

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<v Speaker 1>that like, there's so many pressures on them with the

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<v Speaker 1>gig economy and the lack of health insurance and a

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<v Speaker 1>lack of mental health care and like a lack of

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<v Speaker 1>ability to pay their bills. I just blame everything on

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<v Speaker 1>social media for making and taking taking all of the

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<v Speaker 1>not not to undercut what you're saying, but in the

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<v Speaker 1>midst of all of that, then giving you, on top

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<v Speaker 1>of all of that perfectly legitimate stuff you just said,

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen unnecessary, vague things to worry about. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>social media is always great, but I don't necessarily think

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<v Speaker 1>that's like the root of the problem, just exacerbates all everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we have social media, people were suffering. Sure, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>you just didn't have to see it, you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well yeah, oh boy. Anyway, what was good did happened

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<v Speaker 1>this week. Good that happened this way. We got into

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<v Speaker 1>our new house. We did. We were able to go

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<v Speaker 1>in and start planning some renovations, which is great. Measurements taken.

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<v Speaker 1>Things are moving along. I think it's actually going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what's crazy? I didn't tell you this.

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<v Speaker 1>So I shot a commercial this week and when I

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<v Speaker 1>was on set, I met this older woman. I told

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<v Speaker 1>her where I was moving. Uh, and she and she's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up like three blocks from there, like my

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<v Speaker 1>family's house was there. I lived there forever and then

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<v Speaker 1>she just sold it like a year ago, and then

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<v Speaker 1>moved to an artist loft a block from the Magnet

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<v Speaker 1>Theater where I work. Wow, and we really connected. That's great.

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<v Speaker 1>What does that mean? It's a sign? I know, But

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<v Speaker 1>of what that this woman and I are pet ships

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<v Speaker 1>in the night. There's just I don't know. I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of signs happening for me personally lately.

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<v Speaker 1>Was the dumbest one the dumbest sign mm hm, oh

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<v Speaker 1>well this is okay, this is actually really funny. So

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<v Speaker 1>I had a doctor's appointment and I came out and

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<v Speaker 1>we were kind of like me and the doctor. We're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about like kind of how much better I'm doing

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<v Speaker 1>since I started seeing this doctor, and I was feeling

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<v Speaker 1>good about the steps I'd taken for my health. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I got in the car and I turned on

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<v Speaker 1>the car and the radio started literally playing the song

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<v Speaker 1>I saw the Sign by Ace of Bass, which was

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<v Speaker 1>a very beloved song of my deceased brother growing up,

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<v Speaker 1>and we would have like dance competitions and we would

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<v Speaker 1>dance too. I saw the sign by Asa Base a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>and it just kind of felt like like I, especially

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<v Speaker 1>in light of what's happening now in the world, and

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<v Speaker 1>like all this like it feels like to me, it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like really more important than ever that people are

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<v Speaker 1>taking care of themselves so that they are the best

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<v Speaker 1>equipped to deal with what's happening. And I it felt

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<v Speaker 1>like the steps that I have been taken to try

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<v Speaker 1>to take care of myself were like validated in that

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<v Speaker 1>moment that it was like it literally felt like it

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<v Speaker 1>was like I saw the sign. It's the most literal sign.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so funny. But I also like, on the

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<v Speaker 1>on the drive to that same doctor's office recently, like

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<v Speaker 1>I saw a bus stop ad that said I'm proud

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<v Speaker 1>of you. And I was like, yeah, that's for me,

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's like all these things. I'm just like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's a sign. You know what. Today, I when

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<v Speaker 1>I was napping and during my nap, you know, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I talked about this on the

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<v Speaker 1>show much, but like I'm pretty into this very dumb

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<v Speaker 1>thing called angel numbers. And so it's like if you

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<v Speaker 1>see a repeating seven seven seven, whatever, that's like supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to have a meaning. So during my nap, I literally

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<v Speaker 1>saw seven seven seven, like in my in my mind's

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<v Speaker 1>eye while I was laying in bed, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>got it from my nap and picked up my phone

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<v Speaker 1>and it was five on my phone. Good God. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah, see, it's all proof of something.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to believe it. It just makes me

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<v Speaker 1>happy and that's all that matters, you know what. That's

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<v Speaker 1>where I can get on board, where I'm just just

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<v Speaker 1>like I love patterns, I love connecting things, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>how I I've grown to appreciate your love of it

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<v Speaker 1>is to let go of my need to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>try to debunk it for no good reason and then

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<v Speaker 1>just go like yeah, that's a that's fun. I like it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm behind seven seven seven five five five is your cough? Okay? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I just just I swallowed some coronavirus. Coronavirus, and now

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<v Speaker 1>it's time for did you knows? This is where we

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<v Speaker 1>learned something and share it with you, Beth. So, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought that was kind of interesting topic for discussion right now.

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<v Speaker 1>This is an article from huff Post called how to

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<v Speaker 1>work from home without losing it with your partner or

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<v Speaker 1>your kids. That's not applicable at all. Who can imagine

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<v Speaker 1>what that would be like? It's by Katherine Pearson. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna sort of go through her bullet points, um.

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<v Speaker 1>She says plan in twenty four hour chunks, um, and

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<v Speaker 1>just sort of like the what she's acknowledging is like,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't really know what's happening. I think a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of us, and that you kind of have to take

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<v Speaker 1>it day by day and just be like, what's the

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<v Speaker 1>plan for dearload? Three things? I pray. This woman in

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<v Speaker 1>my mom group who is also a Broadway actress, Laura Bananty,

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<v Speaker 1>she posted a Twitter thread this week. Um, she was like,

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<v Speaker 1>if your high school musical got canceled because of coronavirus.

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<v Speaker 1>Please share videos of you and your uh like classmates

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<v Speaker 1>performing and the videos are so good. It's just like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, that's great. It's such a good thread.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll to send it to you later, but it's just

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<v Speaker 1>like really quick sidebar. I played Jesus and God's Bill

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<v Speaker 1>in high school and it wasn't until halfway through the

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<v Speaker 1>performances that I realized that the entire text of the

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<v Speaker 1>play was from the Book of Matthew, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>the Bible, from the Gospel. You were like, hey, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>is this religious? I was like, I was like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is one of the Gospel, the Gospel's Gospel god Spell. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>and I realized that I had memorized most of the

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<v Speaker 1>Book of Matthew, and I was like, I really missed. Boy,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm seventeen or night. Okay. So she also talked in

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<v Speaker 1>this article about establishing blue zones, which is carving out

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<v Speaker 1>areas in your home that are strictly yours, which they

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<v Speaker 1>acknowledge is very hard if you live in a tiny apartment,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's sometimes like it sometimes means that you have

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<v Speaker 1>to take a conference call in the car, which is

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<v Speaker 1>something we're very familiar with. UM, but It's just like

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<v Speaker 1>I do think it's good to sort of be like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>how are we going to map this out? What's the plan?

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, the plan will go out the window when

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<v Speaker 1>your kids come in and pull on you. But um,

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<v Speaker 1>things to know. It says work in shifts, which a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these things are we're we are already familiar

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<v Speaker 1>with because we already try to work on the weekends

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. Um, And it says focus on the upsides.

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<v Speaker 1>This is where I'm really trying to like lean into

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<v Speaker 1>right now. It's like, Okay, this is like under other

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<v Speaker 1>circumstances where there wasn't a health emergency. If it was

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<v Speaker 1>like you have two weeks off with your kids and

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<v Speaker 1>you have to spend time with them, I do think

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<v Speaker 1>the goal would be like, Okay, let's make this quality time.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's like obviously go easy on ourselves. There's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of screen time, but like also like what

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<v Speaker 1>how can we make the most of it? Can we

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<v Speaker 1>do crafts? Like how can we enjoy each other? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be alone in a house with our

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<v Speaker 1>two kids for at least like for like four days

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<v Speaker 1>or something. I think like two days. I think I'm

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<v Speaker 1>committed to making a movie with him. M that's funny. Um, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I will put a some sort of tape based mustache

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<v Speaker 1>on Maven and make her a villain. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>would be a western western. Yeah, she's got a cowboy hat.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay uh. And then it says, make friends with your anxiety.

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<v Speaker 1>It's normal to feel anxious. Make friends with friends with

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<v Speaker 1>your anxiety. Could you unpack that please? Well, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>saying like it's normal to be anxious in this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of situation. Don't fight it. Be honest with yourself about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I was telling my I have I have friends

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<v Speaker 1>who are kind of dealing with different I think this

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<v Speaker 1>is hitting everyone in different ways, and it just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of triggers whatever your particular anxiety is. Like I was

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<v Speaker 1>telling you today, like, it's interesting to me that in

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<v Speaker 1>moments of stress, your anxiety always goes to financial anxiety

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<v Speaker 1>for some reason. Um. But like I have a friend

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<v Speaker 1>who has a newborn baby, and she's anxious because it's

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<v Speaker 1>just like she has a newborn. She's already anxious because

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<v Speaker 1>she's trying to sleep train and she's exhausted. And I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's on a newborn I guess it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>few months old baby, but she's tired, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>was telling her, like it would already be very normal

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<v Speaker 1>for you to be anxious in the situation, Like just

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<v Speaker 1>go easy on yourself that you're anxious, Like it's okay

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<v Speaker 1>that you, as a person with a baby, are anxious

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<v Speaker 1>when there's also a global pandemic happening, even though logistically

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think this is going to really affect your

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<v Speaker 1>baby directly. I just turned it into a story make

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<v Speaker 1>friends with What is it? What does the title? Make

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<v Speaker 1>Friends with your anxiety? Yeah, I'm picturing anxiety is your

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<v Speaker 1>hyper neurotic friend who comes over and you want to

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<v Speaker 1>validate their concerns, but you also want to let it

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<v Speaker 1>flow through you so you can help them calm down.

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<v Speaker 1>Your anxiety is your neurotic friend, right, well, welcome them in.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't feed You don't want to feed the anxiety,

0:26:56.880 --> 0:26:58.920
<v Speaker 1>right like you don't want to consume the news seven,

0:26:59.000 --> 0:27:01.159
<v Speaker 1>But you also don't want to try to push it

0:27:01.200 --> 0:27:06.920
<v Speaker 1>down and deny it you gently. Yeah, So anyway, um,

0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:09.520
<v Speaker 1>and I guess that's the I guess that's the last

0:27:09.520 --> 0:27:12.480
<v Speaker 1>point of this article, but I thought it was interesting.

0:27:12.560 --> 0:27:14.280
<v Speaker 1>I think also if you want to work from home

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<v Speaker 1>really effectively, UM, have your husband take the kids out

0:27:18.359 --> 0:27:20.119
<v Speaker 1>of town so you can be alone for four days.

0:27:21.040 --> 0:27:23.080
<v Speaker 1>You keep saying four days, and I don't think it's

0:27:23.080 --> 0:27:26.479
<v Speaker 1>going to be that long. Three or four. You said Tuesday, Wednesday.

0:27:26.480 --> 0:27:31.280
<v Speaker 1>We'll see what happens. Right, You're gonna miss us too much? Nope.

0:27:31.960 --> 0:27:34.280
<v Speaker 1>I ordered an Apple TV to be sent to the

0:27:34.280 --> 0:27:38.280
<v Speaker 1>house where we're going great. It was that our arts

0:27:38.280 --> 0:27:41.440
<v Speaker 1>and crafts, well, arts and crafts would also be good.

0:27:41.440 --> 0:27:44.520
<v Speaker 1>But there'll be some of that too. Oh, I'm really

0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:48.160
<v Speaker 1>committed to the movie. Now, please email us the title

0:27:48.960 --> 0:27:54.680
<v Speaker 1>of Okay, now, don't these assignments shut would you give

0:27:54.720 --> 0:28:00.800
<v Speaker 1>our listeners assignments? It's completely self serving and not Yeah,

0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:03.119
<v Speaker 1>that's not why else would I have? Why else to

0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:07.320
<v Speaker 1>have a podcast? That's not how you create engagement when

0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:09.680
<v Speaker 1>you if you're not why I'm doing it, I'm doing

0:28:09.680 --> 0:28:14.720
<v Speaker 1>it because well, it's not effective or useful. It will

0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:22.480
<v Speaker 1>be for what I need, listeners. I'm going to shut up. Listen,

0:28:22.680 --> 0:28:25.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to shoot a movie with my kids. I

0:28:25.800 --> 0:28:28.679
<v Speaker 1>just want you to email with the title of the

0:28:28.720 --> 0:28:31.359
<v Speaker 1>movie should be, and that'll be an inspiration for the script.

0:28:31.400 --> 0:28:35.359
<v Speaker 1>That we write. It's not for the podcast, it's for me.

0:28:35.480 --> 0:28:38.680
<v Speaker 1>I was joking with my friends, like I think so

0:28:38.720 --> 0:28:41.840
<v Speaker 1>many of the women I know, their reaction to coronavirus

0:28:41.960 --> 0:28:45.280
<v Speaker 1>is like, okay, pretty practical. It's like stock up on food,

0:28:45.640 --> 0:28:48.120
<v Speaker 1>toilet paper, like make sure my kids are taken care of,

0:28:48.160 --> 0:28:51.680
<v Speaker 1>like maybe something to entertain the kids. And then like

0:28:52.240 --> 0:28:56.000
<v Speaker 1>our male partners or like men we know, are like

0:28:57.000 --> 0:28:58.960
<v Speaker 1>what's going on with the stark market, Like maybe I

0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:01.480
<v Speaker 1>should buy a weapon. Like it's just like they're like

0:29:01.680 --> 0:29:06.680
<v Speaker 1>their reaction is like, so I need to get a catapult. Yeah,

0:29:06.720 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 1>it says like stuff that have Like I understand we're

0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:12.400
<v Speaker 1>all anxious right now, but like, could you redirect that

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<v Speaker 1>to something useful to the collective? You never know what

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<v Speaker 1>you well, I just I'm not saying all men. I've seen, um,

0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:26.520
<v Speaker 1>some nice men doing nice things, and I think, you know,

0:29:27.600 --> 0:29:30.239
<v Speaker 1>I saw what. Okay, I'm talking to some nice thing,

0:29:32.040 --> 0:29:34.680
<v Speaker 1>but there's a really nice thing on. Yeah, you ignored

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<v Speaker 1>me for a full week when I said we should

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<v Speaker 1>be stalking up on supplies, so I had to do

0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:41.320
<v Speaker 1>like three store runs by myself. And then we'll say

0:29:41.320 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm handling everything else very well. What does that mean?

0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:51.239
<v Speaker 1>Everything else? I'm taking our kids away. Okay, there's a

0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:53.880
<v Speaker 1>lot of big things to deal with that. I sent

0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:58.040
<v Speaker 1>days stalking up on food. And then you were like,

0:29:58.160 --> 0:30:00.720
<v Speaker 1>what if we just left town and left all this food?

0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:03.040
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, can we wait a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>days while we eat the soup? I made like and well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, in my defense, when you stocked up, we

0:30:09.120 --> 0:30:13.600
<v Speaker 1>didn't know everything was going to be canceled. No, we knew.

0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:18.280
<v Speaker 1>This is like where things were leading if you're following

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<v Speaker 1>the um. Some nice things I've seen people doing online.

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<v Speaker 1>So there was a Twitter threat of someone who they

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<v Speaker 1>were at. They were going to the grocery store, and

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<v Speaker 1>this elderly couple was sitting in their car with the

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<v Speaker 1>window cracked, and they were like, hell, help help, and

0:30:32.920 --> 0:30:35.440
<v Speaker 1>they were like wanted. They have been waiting for someone

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<v Speaker 1>for like an hour to come along and maybe go

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<v Speaker 1>inside and buy their groceries for them, because they were

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<v Speaker 1>very old and they didn't want to get sick. And

0:30:42.240 --> 0:30:43.760
<v Speaker 1>so this person went to the store and bought their

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<v Speaker 1>groceries for them, which I think is really nice. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I've seen other people I know on Facebook like

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<v Speaker 1>they'll like post a sign in their apartment building and

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<v Speaker 1>be like, here's my phone number. Any like elderly neighbors,

0:30:56.480 --> 0:30:59.520
<v Speaker 1>anyone who needs help. If you can't, like, just call

0:30:59.600 --> 0:31:01.200
<v Speaker 1>me or text me if you want me to go

0:31:01.240 --> 0:31:03.880
<v Speaker 1>pick up your prescriptions or whatever. I feel like people

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<v Speaker 1>are like I've seen things like that, like New Yorkers

0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:11.080
<v Speaker 1>doing that. I think that's really great. Um. I just

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<v Speaker 1>think like I do think, in spite of how scary

0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:18.720
<v Speaker 1>this is, I think it's highlighting a lot of the

0:31:18.760 --> 0:31:21.640
<v Speaker 1>weaknesses in our system in a good way. I think we,

0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:23.840
<v Speaker 1>like you know, we have to band together, and I

0:31:23.880 --> 0:31:26.360
<v Speaker 1>hope that people will come out of this with a

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<v Speaker 1>little more social awareness and social responsibility and stop going

0:31:32.120 --> 0:31:37.680
<v Speaker 1>to bars and spreading disease. Being off work is not

0:31:37.760 --> 0:31:43.600
<v Speaker 1>an excuse to go spread your germs around self. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just just everyone, just the whole world. Take two weeks,

0:31:46.560 --> 0:31:49.320
<v Speaker 1>then all those people who are sick. I think two

0:31:49.360 --> 0:31:51.680
<v Speaker 1>weeks might be optimistic, though I don't know what is

0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:54.720
<v Speaker 1>going to happen. Well, well, I mean if we if

0:31:54.880 --> 0:32:02.000
<v Speaker 1>literally everyone self isolated for two weeks, then there's that

0:32:02.080 --> 0:32:05.040
<v Speaker 1>amount of time if there's no spreading that all of

0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:07.160
<v Speaker 1>those people that are going to recover recover and now

0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:11.479
<v Speaker 1>have immunities and it becomes way harder for things to spread. Yeah,

0:32:11.520 --> 0:32:14.360
<v Speaker 1>but some people work in hospitals, some people are Amazon

0:32:14.400 --> 0:32:17.040
<v Speaker 1>delivery people, like, they're still going out there. There's not

0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:19.280
<v Speaker 1>going to be a zero spread, even if most of

0:32:19.400 --> 0:32:22.320
<v Speaker 1>us are pretty responsible. Right, Well, it's the more you

0:32:22.360 --> 0:32:25.320
<v Speaker 1>can do all at once. That's the flattening of the curve.

0:32:25.560 --> 0:32:28.840
<v Speaker 1>And it doesn't overwhelm the the system. You spread it out.

0:32:29.280 --> 0:32:31.600
<v Speaker 1>Maybe get to the point where we get a little vaccine.

0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:36.360
<v Speaker 1>And let's hope we get a vaccine. Considering our president

0:32:36.480 --> 0:32:40.479
<v Speaker 1>turned down the World Health Organization test for this virus.

0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:44.520
<v Speaker 1>He just took it. We found out it was negative. No,

0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:47.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean he turned the World Organization was sending the

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<v Speaker 1>test around to different countries, and he and his administration

0:32:51.480 --> 0:32:53.960
<v Speaker 1>decided that we should develop our own tests and waste

0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:56.320
<v Speaker 1>time doing that, and then we developed a faultier test

0:32:56.360 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't work as well. Don't get me started. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I am allowed to get starred. I didn't mean that literally,

0:33:04.360 --> 0:33:11.200
<v Speaker 1>that colloquially. Colloquially anyway, Um, we should say that we

0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:14.520
<v Speaker 1>are recording this um two days earlier than we normally do,

0:33:14.640 --> 0:33:17.720
<v Speaker 1>so the whole world could have fallen apart since we

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<v Speaker 1>recorded this, so so sorry for Yeah, by the time

0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:23.160
<v Speaker 1>you're listening to this, if it even gets released, we

0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:26.160
<v Speaker 1>could be on fire. Yeah, we might. We might be

0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:29.440
<v Speaker 1>on fire right now. Not not the world, just us

0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:33.120
<v Speaker 1>two today. So I really do believe there's like a

0:33:33.200 --> 0:33:36.640
<v Speaker 1>collective unconscious and that we kind of like pick up

0:33:36.640 --> 0:33:39.840
<v Speaker 1>on things, whether or not we are directly knowledgeable what's

0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:42.480
<v Speaker 1>happening when there's tension in the world. And today Maybe

0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:45.640
<v Speaker 1>and Brenn we're playing and they're talking about their like

0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:49.880
<v Speaker 1>playing and Bryn was like talking about my sister who

0:33:49.920 --> 0:33:53.680
<v Speaker 1>lives in Brooklyn, and he was like, Ali, her town

0:33:53.720 --> 0:33:57.560
<v Speaker 1>got struck by lightning and she can't come. And then

0:33:57.640 --> 0:34:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Maybe was like, but I love her. And I was

0:34:01.600 --> 0:34:03.719
<v Speaker 1>texted my sister to let her know they were saying this,

0:34:03.920 --> 0:34:07.600
<v Speaker 1>and she was like, are they is this them processing coronavirus?

0:34:07.720 --> 0:34:10.120
<v Speaker 1>Which like they we haven't told them that like much

0:34:10.160 --> 0:34:12.680
<v Speaker 1>about it. I did, like I've been trying to tell

0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:15.560
<v Speaker 1>Brenda wash his hands more. And then he gets angry

0:34:15.600 --> 0:34:19.280
<v Speaker 1>and he told me I'll never meet someone with coronavirus

0:34:19.360 --> 0:34:23.520
<v Speaker 1>in my whole life. Um, he did try to open

0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:25.880
<v Speaker 1>the fridge with his mouth today and I was like,

0:34:25.960 --> 0:34:29.160
<v Speaker 1>this is what we were talking about. I know, it's

0:34:29.200 --> 0:34:32.160
<v Speaker 1>our fridge. You'll be fine. We need to get better

0:34:32.160 --> 0:34:35.680
<v Speaker 1>on the germs thing, because they are not kidding, they're

0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:38.719
<v Speaker 1>real five and three year old. So we went for

0:34:38.760 --> 0:34:41.759
<v Speaker 1>our nature walk today and there was by the way,

0:34:41.800 --> 0:34:47.319
<v Speaker 1>the nature preserve has never been busier. Everyone, well, we

0:34:47.360 --> 0:34:49.480
<v Speaker 1>can't go to a crowded places. Let's go where no

0:34:49.520 --> 0:34:52.280
<v Speaker 1>one goes. It was still good, we were still able

0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:56.400
<v Speaker 1>to social distance, but the parking lot was packed. Um.

0:34:56.440 --> 0:34:58.400
<v Speaker 1>But so we were walking and we passed these like

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<v Speaker 1>three older girls, at least relative to Maven who walked by,

0:35:04.000 --> 0:35:07.080
<v Speaker 1>and Maven was like cool, cool older girls. And as

0:35:07.080 --> 0:35:10.880
<v Speaker 1>they passed by, I heard these girls go what did

0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:13.799
<v Speaker 1>what do they say? They're like, can you imagine if

0:35:13.800 --> 0:35:17.440
<v Speaker 1>my parents were dead? And then and then others like

0:35:18.080 --> 0:35:23.480
<v Speaker 1>imagine my parents are dead? And I realized, like, there,

0:35:23.520 --> 0:35:27.880
<v Speaker 1>I've read hundreds, tens of thousands of stories written by kids,

0:35:28.480 --> 0:35:31.560
<v Speaker 1>and there is a through line of stories written by

0:35:31.640 --> 0:35:36.080
<v Speaker 1>probably aged seven to twelve year old girls who love

0:35:36.200 --> 0:35:40.440
<v Speaker 1>to write about uh, young female protagonists whose parents are

0:35:40.480 --> 0:35:44.560
<v Speaker 1>dead well, which is like every Disney movie even children. Yeah,

0:35:44.640 --> 0:35:48.640
<v Speaker 1>children's fiction is full of orphan children and then romanticize

0:35:48.680 --> 0:35:50.600
<v Speaker 1>it and make it seem sort of like really great

0:35:50.600 --> 0:35:55.520
<v Speaker 1>that your parents are dead, like Harry Potter. Um, But yeah,

0:35:55.880 --> 0:35:58.560
<v Speaker 1>I already told you this. But I was at the

0:35:58.600 --> 0:36:01.040
<v Speaker 1>same nature preserve like a week ago, and I was

0:36:01.080 --> 0:36:03.800
<v Speaker 1>trying to go for nature walk and these two boys

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<v Speaker 1>walked up to me, who are like nine or ten

0:36:06.000 --> 0:36:09.520
<v Speaker 1>years old, and one of them was like, um, excuse me,

0:36:09.680 --> 0:36:12.640
<v Speaker 1>Can I ask you the question, Um, if there are

0:36:12.800 --> 0:36:16.800
<v Speaker 1>deer and they're walking towards you, is that dangerous? There's

0:36:16.920 --> 0:36:19.800
<v Speaker 1>some deer over there. And then his friend interrupted and

0:36:19.840 --> 0:36:22.200
<v Speaker 1>he was like, no, no, that's not the question. The

0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:24.880
<v Speaker 1>question is do you know what time it is? And

0:36:25.320 --> 0:36:28.400
<v Speaker 1>I so I gave them the time. I told him

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<v Speaker 1>what time it is, and then they were like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, we gotta get out of here, we have

0:36:31.719 --> 0:36:34.680
<v Speaker 1>to go, and then they ran on. That's when the

0:36:34.719 --> 0:36:37.080
<v Speaker 1>deers said they would come and meet us and walk

0:36:37.200 --> 0:36:41.600
<v Speaker 1>towards us quiet devon. They're kind of trying to warn

0:36:41.640 --> 0:36:44.040
<v Speaker 1>me that there was deer about because this nature preserved

0:36:44.080 --> 0:36:48.279
<v Speaker 1>we go to always has deer and deer. But like,

0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:50.239
<v Speaker 1>I can see how if you're like a kid and

0:36:50.280 --> 0:36:52.960
<v Speaker 1>there's this deer just like hanging out. You're like, uh,

0:36:53.160 --> 0:37:00.000
<v Speaker 1>is this dangerous? Maybe it's not a dumb question? Really?

0:37:00.160 --> 0:37:05.240
<v Speaker 1>Nine or ten? They're really cute alright, ten? Great age. Yeah,

0:37:06.480 --> 0:37:11.680
<v Speaker 1>so the moral of the article, the moral of the article, well,

0:37:11.719 --> 0:37:14.160
<v Speaker 1>it's just like the moral moral of the article I

0:37:14.160 --> 0:37:18.120
<v Speaker 1>think is like, have a plan, set some expectations with

0:37:18.160 --> 0:37:22.959
<v Speaker 1>each other, Like let's all try to support each other, yeah,

0:37:23.080 --> 0:37:39.279
<v Speaker 1>so that we can all get some work done. This

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<v Speaker 1>next segment is called Listeners Want to Know, is where

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<v Speaker 1>we take questions and comments from you guys. This email

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<v Speaker 1>comes to us from Mindy. Mindy says first time writer

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<v Speaker 1>Hi Beth and Peter. I've been listening to you guys

0:37:51.280 --> 0:37:53.799
<v Speaker 1>for a long time, and I love every episode. I

0:37:53.840 --> 0:37:57.560
<v Speaker 1>cannot find another podcast that brings me as much joy.

0:37:58.160 --> 0:38:01.799
<v Speaker 1>So I am currently realist too for the fun of it.

0:38:02.520 --> 0:38:05.680
<v Speaker 1>Is nice. You're gonna know more about us than we do.

0:38:06.760 --> 0:38:11.280
<v Speaker 1>I have a six year old daughter, Alicia, not Alyssa. Alicia,

0:38:11.440 --> 0:38:17.279
<v Speaker 1>emphasized the I A Alicia, Alicia, Alicia Alicia. Well, you've

0:38:17.280 --> 0:38:20.680
<v Speaker 1>definitely nailed it. I've definitely nailed one of those two.

0:38:21.360 --> 0:38:27.800
<v Speaker 1>And uh so Alicia and twin month old boys and Grace.

0:38:27.960 --> 0:38:32.960
<v Speaker 1>Congratulations on she goes. Yes, it is Hell. I love

0:38:33.000 --> 0:38:35.800
<v Speaker 1>listening to your experiences with Brin due to the fact

0:38:35.920 --> 0:38:38.440
<v Speaker 1>that him and my daughter are the same age and

0:38:38.560 --> 0:38:42.719
<v Speaker 1>hit the same milestones. Pretty milestone is pretty close together. Anyways,

0:38:42.760 --> 0:38:46.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm emailing you for advice on a heavy topic. Beth.

0:38:46.960 --> 0:38:49.480
<v Speaker 1>This will hit home and maybe triggering for you. I'm

0:38:49.520 --> 0:38:52.319
<v Speaker 1>married to a wonderful husband who is the father of

0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:55.759
<v Speaker 1>my twin boys, but not Alicia. I met him when

0:38:55.840 --> 0:38:59.160
<v Speaker 1>my daughter turned one. My daughter's father, or as I

0:38:59.200 --> 0:39:03.359
<v Speaker 1>call it, orm donor, overdosed and passed away when she

0:39:03.480 --> 0:39:08.200
<v Speaker 1>was two, never meeting her, knowing nothing about her being pregnant,

0:39:08.280 --> 0:39:11.200
<v Speaker 1>with her knowing her father was an active drug user,

0:39:11.560 --> 0:39:15.520
<v Speaker 1>and I'll just say not a nice person, was abusive, slash, manipulative,

0:39:15.960 --> 0:39:21.240
<v Speaker 1>truly affected my way of loving real PTSD stuff. Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>I had always planned on being upfront with her and

0:39:23.840 --> 0:39:28.160
<v Speaker 1>keeping her in the know. However, after meeting my now husband,

0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:31.239
<v Speaker 1>all of that changed. He ended up being totally amazing

0:39:31.360 --> 0:39:33.960
<v Speaker 1>and wanting. I wanted to be the father figure in

0:39:34.040 --> 0:39:37.120
<v Speaker 1>her life, and that's what happened. She only knows him

0:39:37.160 --> 0:39:40.200
<v Speaker 1>as dad. I know her to know. I want I

0:39:41.520 --> 0:39:43.719
<v Speaker 1>know I want her to know the truth of him

0:39:43.760 --> 0:39:46.799
<v Speaker 1>not being her biological father, but I'm not sure how

0:39:46.840 --> 0:39:50.200
<v Speaker 1>Slash went to approach this. The past five years with

0:39:50.239 --> 0:39:55.239
<v Speaker 1>my husband were so great, I um I didn't have

0:39:55.560 --> 0:39:58.600
<v Speaker 1>this huge desire to try to dissect this information with

0:39:58.640 --> 0:40:01.719
<v Speaker 1>a little girl now, now her being six, she's so

0:40:01.760 --> 0:40:04.040
<v Speaker 1>smart and capable of understanding a lot of things. But

0:40:04.120 --> 0:40:06.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't want this to be confusing for her. She

0:40:06.760 --> 0:40:11.120
<v Speaker 1>is aware that her at that her and Mommy have

0:40:11.239 --> 0:40:13.920
<v Speaker 1>the same last name. I won't change mine until we

0:40:13.960 --> 0:40:16.680
<v Speaker 1>get her officially adopted, which we are doing, but it

0:40:16.760 --> 0:40:19.880
<v Speaker 1>is surprisingly giant pain in the ass. We live in

0:40:19.920 --> 0:40:22.120
<v Speaker 1>Oregon and there are a lot of hoops we have

0:40:22.200 --> 0:40:24.400
<v Speaker 1>to go through. I was thinking of throwing a party

0:40:24.400 --> 0:40:27.000
<v Speaker 1>with our friends and family when we get her officially

0:40:27.000 --> 0:40:30.000
<v Speaker 1>adopted and our names changed, but still don't know if

0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:33.960
<v Speaker 1>that's when I should dig deeper, dig super deep into everything.

0:40:34.440 --> 0:40:37.279
<v Speaker 1>It may be this year or maybe next year, so

0:40:37.400 --> 0:40:40.319
<v Speaker 1>she'll be either six or seven. Looking at Brent, do

0:40:40.360 --> 0:40:42.680
<v Speaker 1>you think you would be able to understand something like this?

0:40:42.920 --> 0:40:45.840
<v Speaker 1>If so, how would you approach this or would you

0:40:45.880 --> 0:40:48.920
<v Speaker 1>wait until he's a little older, say ten to twelve?

0:40:49.040 --> 0:40:52.640
<v Speaker 1>When the concept may make more sense. Any advice would

0:40:52.640 --> 0:40:58.400
<v Speaker 1>be great, thanks, mindy okay. My My immediate quick reaction

0:40:58.480 --> 0:41:04.720
<v Speaker 1>to that is she'll understand, Yeah, I think okay, So

0:41:05.400 --> 0:41:07.520
<v Speaker 1>I think, okay, take our advice with a grain of salt.

0:41:07.520 --> 0:41:10.759
<v Speaker 1>We haven't researched this. I do think you should go

0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:13.600
<v Speaker 1>with your gut in some ways on this situation. But

0:41:14.640 --> 0:41:18.720
<v Speaker 1>my instinct is to not necessarily have a big talk

0:41:19.120 --> 0:41:23.880
<v Speaker 1>sit down, but like just start offhand referencing the birth

0:41:24.040 --> 0:41:27.160
<v Speaker 1>dad in this situation while she's still young, so that

0:41:27.200 --> 0:41:31.440
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't feel like a shocker when she's ten. I think,

0:41:31.520 --> 0:41:34.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you have to sort of I don't

0:41:34.480 --> 0:41:36.640
<v Speaker 1>in this situation because it doesn't sound like he was

0:41:36.680 --> 0:41:39.400
<v Speaker 1>ever an active parent, especially like I don't think you

0:41:39.480 --> 0:41:42.759
<v Speaker 1>have to be like you had another daddy or like

0:41:42.840 --> 0:41:45.920
<v Speaker 1>make it confusing for her for what she can comprehend

0:41:45.920 --> 0:41:48.560
<v Speaker 1>at this age. But I do think, like, if you're

0:41:48.600 --> 0:41:50.960
<v Speaker 1>talking like birds and bees, you can be like, mommy

0:41:51.280 --> 0:41:55.560
<v Speaker 1>got you know, pregnant with this other man, Like there's

0:41:55.600 --> 0:41:58.200
<v Speaker 1>sperm from this man, and you know, like I do

0:41:58.280 --> 0:42:00.479
<v Speaker 1>think it's good to start planning seeds so she doesn't

0:42:00.520 --> 0:42:03.359
<v Speaker 1>feel like the secret was hidden from her. I think

0:42:03.400 --> 0:42:09.400
<v Speaker 1>it's all in how how you say it. Um. I

0:42:09.480 --> 0:42:13.319
<v Speaker 1>really think to my mom and these types of heavy conversations,

0:42:13.400 --> 0:42:18.719
<v Speaker 1>who is so great at being positive and open and

0:42:18.920 --> 0:42:24.400
<v Speaker 1>matter of fact about things, and she never like the

0:42:25.080 --> 0:42:27.399
<v Speaker 1>if you're bringing a ton of weight to a thing

0:42:27.400 --> 0:42:30.560
<v Speaker 1>you're sharing, that scares a kid and they can tell

0:42:30.640 --> 0:42:33.080
<v Speaker 1>that there's something important about it, right. I don't think

0:42:33.080 --> 0:42:34.520
<v Speaker 1>you need to like sit them down, but just when

0:42:34.520 --> 0:42:36.600
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about different things to be like, oh, yeah,

0:42:36.640 --> 0:42:40.680
<v Speaker 1>well you're your brother's you know, I'm trying to think

0:42:40.680 --> 0:42:45.200
<v Speaker 1>of a good way to say sperm sperm donation, but like,

0:42:45.360 --> 0:42:47.839
<v Speaker 1>you know, we have different genes and you came from

0:42:47.840 --> 0:42:51.640
<v Speaker 1>this guy, and yeah, you should say exactly what it is,

0:42:51.800 --> 0:42:53.600
<v Speaker 1>which is that like, oh, you know you have a

0:42:53.640 --> 0:42:57.520
<v Speaker 1>different biological father, and then explain what that means. I had.

0:42:57.719 --> 0:42:59.279
<v Speaker 1>I had a moment with the kids this week. That's

0:42:59.320 --> 0:43:01.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of really fun to me because like so I

0:43:01.880 --> 0:43:04.280
<v Speaker 1>probably said this before, but like my brother who died

0:43:04.840 --> 0:43:07.520
<v Speaker 1>um when he was twenty one and I was nineteen,

0:43:07.680 --> 0:43:12.320
<v Speaker 1>and he died of oxoually cotton overdose. It was very unexpected,

0:43:12.520 --> 0:43:15.880
<v Speaker 1>but like we sort of we don't talk about him

0:43:15.920 --> 0:43:18.279
<v Speaker 1>a lot with the kids because they never knew him,

0:43:18.400 --> 0:43:20.200
<v Speaker 1>but like we're trying to sort of bring it up,

0:43:20.200 --> 0:43:23.319
<v Speaker 1>and I think he brought it up. So then this

0:43:23.360 --> 0:43:27.560
<v Speaker 1>week Britain was drawing all of us as like eggs

0:43:27.719 --> 0:43:32.279
<v Speaker 1>for some reason, and then he drew one egg with

0:43:32.440 --> 0:43:35.920
<v Speaker 1>like scrabble on it, and he goes, that's Uncle Craig.

0:43:36.080 --> 0:43:41.160
<v Speaker 1>He's cracked because he died, and like it really actually

0:43:41.200 --> 0:43:45.600
<v Speaker 1>made me like simultaneously like laugh and emotional, like I was,

0:43:45.640 --> 0:43:49.239
<v Speaker 1>like I was like it made me mostly like very

0:43:49.280 --> 0:43:52.120
<v Speaker 1>happy and grateful that he knew who my brother was

0:43:52.160 --> 0:43:54.759
<v Speaker 1>because I haven't really taken a lot of time to

0:43:54.800 --> 0:43:57.360
<v Speaker 1>talk to him about my brother. But I do want

0:43:57.920 --> 0:44:00.839
<v Speaker 1>them long term to know that my other like my

0:44:00.880 --> 0:44:02.880
<v Speaker 1>brother is a huge part of who I am and

0:44:02.920 --> 0:44:06.080
<v Speaker 1>like how I came to be, and like I don't

0:44:06.719 --> 0:44:09.360
<v Speaker 1>I want them to know that, like this person was

0:44:09.360 --> 0:44:12.800
<v Speaker 1>in my life. And so I was really like laughing

0:44:12.840 --> 0:44:16.040
<v Speaker 1>because I think my brother would really like to be

0:44:16.320 --> 0:44:20.360
<v Speaker 1>remembered as like a cracked egg, Like I think it

0:44:20.400 --> 0:44:23.240
<v Speaker 1>really would have made him laugh, but it's like that's

0:44:23.320 --> 0:44:26.279
<v Speaker 1>the way he's characterized by them. Well, when I read

0:44:26.280 --> 0:44:28.960
<v Speaker 1>this email, um, the first thing I thought was this

0:44:29.000 --> 0:44:34.040
<v Speaker 1>conversation I had with Brin because he came up organically, uh,

0:44:34.239 --> 0:44:38.120
<v Speaker 1>because we're going, you know, talked about backwards in time

0:44:38.200 --> 0:44:42.520
<v Speaker 1>and sort of our family timeline. And I had a

0:44:42.560 --> 0:44:46.200
<v Speaker 1>moment where I was like, this is something that Beth

0:44:46.239 --> 0:44:50.759
<v Speaker 1>should tell him. But because he came up organically, I

0:44:50.800 --> 0:44:53.880
<v Speaker 1>was like, if I say that now, I'm going to

0:44:54.040 --> 0:44:58.799
<v Speaker 1>turn it into a big deal. And it's important and

0:44:58.840 --> 0:45:01.640
<v Speaker 1>it's sad things. But so I just I just turned

0:45:01.640 --> 0:45:04.160
<v Speaker 1>on my mind. I turned on my mom's voice and

0:45:04.239 --> 0:45:09.319
<v Speaker 1>immediately just and it's this this tone she had or goes, oh,

0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:11.840
<v Speaker 1>you know that mommy had a brother named Craig and

0:45:11.880 --> 0:45:15.000
<v Speaker 1>he actually died, and he goes really and goes yep,

0:45:15.280 --> 0:45:18.480
<v Speaker 1>And I said it was very sad. Um, yeah, and

0:45:18.560 --> 0:45:23.400
<v Speaker 1>he he took he took too much of a medicine

0:45:23.760 --> 0:45:25.719
<v Speaker 1>that he shouldn't have been and he died and he

0:45:25.800 --> 0:45:28.480
<v Speaker 1>was very sad, and he could tell it was sad,

0:45:28.520 --> 0:45:32.640
<v Speaker 1>but he also it felt fine. So the way I

0:45:32.680 --> 0:45:34.520
<v Speaker 1>was thinking about this when I read this email is

0:45:35.480 --> 0:45:39.759
<v Speaker 1>the way you tell your daughter is as if this

0:45:40.760 --> 0:45:45.760
<v Speaker 1>imagine that this event had happened to your daughter's best friend.

0:45:46.920 --> 0:45:50.439
<v Speaker 1>And no, no, bear with me for a second, Like

0:45:50.640 --> 0:45:56.439
<v Speaker 1>if this if your daughter's best friend had the same

0:45:56.440 --> 0:45:59.520
<v Speaker 1>experience happened and she just found out about it, and

0:45:59.520 --> 0:46:01.560
<v Speaker 1>then you had to tell that story to your daughter.

0:46:01.960 --> 0:46:06.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh like your friend who like your bio dad. Yeah,

0:46:06.600 --> 0:46:09.279
<v Speaker 1>your friends, but your friends actually has a different biological

0:46:09.320 --> 0:46:11.880
<v Speaker 1>father who passed away, so I didn't know about it.

0:46:12.320 --> 0:46:15.480
<v Speaker 1>The tone you would use would be sensitive, but it

0:46:15.480 --> 0:46:18.880
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be It wouldn't be stern, and it wouldn't be

0:46:18.920 --> 0:46:23.320
<v Speaker 1>overly precious. It would be a matter of fact and sensitive.

0:46:23.920 --> 0:46:26.879
<v Speaker 1>Bring that tone to it. One of my pet peeves

0:46:26.920 --> 0:46:30.560
<v Speaker 1>about the grieving process is like as Americans were not

0:46:30.880 --> 0:46:33.440
<v Speaker 1>very comfortable with death, and we like try to hide

0:46:33.480 --> 0:46:36.400
<v Speaker 1>it away instead of just like talking about the elephant

0:46:36.440 --> 0:46:39.200
<v Speaker 1>in the room, which is like for grieving people, it's

0:46:39.239 --> 0:46:43.440
<v Speaker 1>like every other second you're thinking about the person you lost,

0:46:43.520 --> 0:46:46.960
<v Speaker 1>Like it's not a mystery, Like it's not like you're

0:46:47.000 --> 0:46:49.640
<v Speaker 1>not offending that person by bringing it up, you know

0:46:49.680 --> 0:46:52.520
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. And I think we have a tendency

0:46:52.719 --> 0:46:54.719
<v Speaker 1>as a culture to be like, oh, I don't want

0:46:54.719 --> 0:46:56.799
<v Speaker 1>to hurt someone's feelings by talking about this dark thing,

0:46:56.800 --> 0:47:00.719
<v Speaker 1>litta blah blah blah. And it's like, no like knowledge it.

0:47:00.800 --> 0:47:03.160
<v Speaker 1>You don't have to necessarily like force them to get

0:47:03.200 --> 0:47:06.560
<v Speaker 1>into it at various points, but like you should be

0:47:06.640 --> 0:47:09.799
<v Speaker 1>mindful of the fact that people are going through dark

0:47:09.880 --> 0:47:11.919
<v Speaker 1>things from time to time, you know, like I don't

0:47:11.960 --> 0:47:15.239
<v Speaker 1>just don't show people fear, yeah, just like yeah, just

0:47:15.280 --> 0:47:17.799
<v Speaker 1>like openly and be like, oh yeah, like you're this

0:47:18.000 --> 0:47:20.439
<v Speaker 1>these things you're dealing with. And I think the same

0:47:20.480 --> 0:47:24.280
<v Speaker 1>thing for addiction, to be honest, like, just like because

0:47:24.320 --> 0:47:28.120
<v Speaker 1>we create so much shame and fear around it that

0:47:28.200 --> 0:47:31.120
<v Speaker 1>it makes it even harder thing to deal with than

0:47:31.160 --> 0:47:38.120
<v Speaker 1>it is to begin with. So I would say six

0:47:38.200 --> 0:47:42.040
<v Speaker 1>is the perfect age. I think any any longer and

0:47:42.080 --> 0:47:45.040
<v Speaker 1>it starts to feel like we've been hiding something from you.

0:47:45.680 --> 0:47:49.800
<v Speaker 1>But I think she'll completely under She'll have questions, she

0:47:49.920 --> 0:47:54.680
<v Speaker 1>might to completely understand, but trust that six year olds

0:47:54.719 --> 0:47:59.560
<v Speaker 1>are very smart. They just don't have enough context sometimes together.

0:48:00.200 --> 0:48:01.800
<v Speaker 1>You don't have to bring it up all the time,

0:48:02.120 --> 0:48:04.960
<v Speaker 1>just like once in a while, just if it comes up,

0:48:05.200 --> 0:48:08.040
<v Speaker 1>don't don't like run away from the issue. And I

0:48:08.400 --> 0:48:10.440
<v Speaker 1>think as a six year old, she's probably going to

0:48:10.520 --> 0:48:13.640
<v Speaker 1>process it in some weird ways and ask some weird questions.

0:48:13.680 --> 0:48:16.439
<v Speaker 1>And I think it's like it's good to let her

0:48:16.560 --> 0:48:18.759
<v Speaker 1>lean into that and like if she has kind of

0:48:18.800 --> 0:48:22.120
<v Speaker 1>like a sick fascination with it for a week, you know,

0:48:22.160 --> 0:48:25.120
<v Speaker 1>like let her do her thing, because it's like that's

0:48:25.160 --> 0:48:29.360
<v Speaker 1>how kids process and they they say and ask weird

0:48:29.440 --> 0:48:32.919
<v Speaker 1>things and that's part of the process and it's good.

0:48:33.080 --> 0:48:36.160
<v Speaker 1>And just show her it's fine and that everything happened

0:48:37.600 --> 0:48:41.120
<v Speaker 1>the way it happened and here we are now and

0:48:41.200 --> 0:48:48.719
<v Speaker 1>she has her daddy now and her dad obviously, and yeah,

0:48:48.760 --> 0:48:51.160
<v Speaker 1>I think I think the tricky part, I think is

0:48:51.200 --> 0:48:53.680
<v Speaker 1>just sort of trying to find the terminology that is

0:48:53.719 --> 0:48:58.880
<v Speaker 1>age accessible and also feels sort of respectful, respectful of

0:48:58.920 --> 0:49:01.600
<v Speaker 1>the situation, which is that this man was never really

0:49:01.640 --> 0:49:04.839
<v Speaker 1>a dad to her. Her bio dad. He was, you know,

0:49:06.200 --> 0:49:09.399
<v Speaker 1>he's the reason she is here, but he you know,

0:49:09.920 --> 0:49:11.759
<v Speaker 1>he's not her dad, and she gets still gets to

0:49:11.800 --> 0:49:13.719
<v Speaker 1>have her dad, and like you know what I mean, Like,

0:49:14.280 --> 0:49:15.759
<v Speaker 1>I think those are the things you might have to

0:49:15.760 --> 0:49:19.040
<v Speaker 1>think through a little bit. But I don't think it'll

0:49:19.080 --> 0:49:22.120
<v Speaker 1>be as hard as it might seem in your mind,

0:49:22.280 --> 0:49:24.799
<v Speaker 1>because your daughter is going to process it slowly over

0:49:25.200 --> 0:49:28.480
<v Speaker 1>many years. Show her that you are fine with it,

0:49:28.560 --> 0:49:34.520
<v Speaker 1>and she will be fine with it, um ps its

0:49:34.560 --> 0:49:41.040
<v Speaker 1>the ps here I will say, um just because well

0:49:41.040 --> 0:49:43.440
<v Speaker 1>I'll just read it. I'll say I keep in contact

0:49:43.480 --> 0:49:46.600
<v Speaker 1>with my ex as mom. She lost her husband about

0:49:46.640 --> 0:49:50.680
<v Speaker 1>two years ago after her son, her only son. I

0:49:50.719 --> 0:49:55.600
<v Speaker 1>am Mexican, have a huge family, lots of names, boylos uh.

0:49:55.719 --> 0:49:59.040
<v Speaker 1>So my daughter just refers to her as Nana Lupita,

0:49:59.600 --> 0:50:02.319
<v Speaker 1>which is not that uncommon for us to have a

0:50:02.360 --> 0:50:05.239
<v Speaker 1>lot of relatives like that. Also, here's a pick of

0:50:05.320 --> 0:50:09.200
<v Speaker 1>my kids. Yes, no is a little redhead. My husband

0:50:09.680 --> 0:50:13.400
<v Speaker 1>is not a redhead. Oh my god, alright, ready, cute picture.

0:50:13.640 --> 0:50:16.000
<v Speaker 1>So this is a mini segment where we go we

0:50:16.080 --> 0:50:18.000
<v Speaker 1>knows what they look like. Where I show a picture.

0:50:18.480 --> 0:50:21.319
<v Speaker 1>I showed a picture of kids to Beth and she

0:50:21.440 --> 0:50:23.880
<v Speaker 1>reacts because she loves all children, and you know this

0:50:23.920 --> 0:50:26.960
<v Speaker 1>will be no different. Ready, Beth one two three, boom

0:50:28.680 --> 0:50:34.799
<v Speaker 1>Oh he has glasses. A little kid with glasses. One

0:50:34.840 --> 0:50:37.560
<v Speaker 1>of my friends kids just got glasses. And I'm like,

0:50:38.200 --> 0:50:44.359
<v Speaker 1>that's so cute. Gosh, I love these I love these children. Yeah,

0:50:44.400 --> 0:50:50.320
<v Speaker 1>he's the redhead. What color hair is the Maleman's just kidding.

0:50:50.680 --> 0:50:54.759
<v Speaker 1>But I think the fact that the biological grandmothers in

0:50:54.760 --> 0:50:56.799
<v Speaker 1>the picture, I think only makes it easier because it's

0:50:56.840 --> 0:50:59.759
<v Speaker 1>just you know, you say, um, what did she say,

0:50:59.800 --> 0:51:04.920
<v Speaker 1>A Bola Lupizza or Nana Lupizza? She said, like, I

0:51:04.920 --> 0:51:07.000
<v Speaker 1>think she can just be like, you know, Nana Lupizza

0:51:07.120 --> 0:51:12.560
<v Speaker 1>had this son, and that's how you Yeah, yeah, you um,

0:51:12.600 --> 0:51:17.800
<v Speaker 1>your biological father, uh you know, uh passed away before

0:51:17.800 --> 0:51:20.560
<v Speaker 1>you are old enough to know him. That's the fact

0:51:20.840 --> 0:51:25.040
<v Speaker 1>you start with that. Yeah. I wonder if there's a

0:51:25.080 --> 0:51:27.120
<v Speaker 1>book out there for this kind of thing, and just

0:51:27.160 --> 0:51:30.959
<v Speaker 1>in terms of the terminology that kids are, what's accessible

0:51:31.120 --> 0:51:37.200
<v Speaker 1>for little kids. Yeah, again I'd say, be okay with it,

0:51:37.400 --> 0:51:41.600
<v Speaker 1>and she will too. Well. Um, thank you mindy, thank

0:51:41.600 --> 0:51:43.640
<v Speaker 1>you for asking guests, and thank you for re listening.

0:51:43.920 --> 0:51:45.719
<v Speaker 1>I hope you're not in this section where we were

0:51:45.719 --> 0:51:49.160
<v Speaker 1>fighting all the time. Is that hard to get through?

0:51:50.120 --> 0:51:52.319
<v Speaker 1>What was our life like then? We don't know. I

0:51:52.320 --> 0:51:56.480
<v Speaker 1>don't know. We've been We've been tired a lot. This

0:51:56.560 --> 0:51:58.839
<v Speaker 1>has been another episode we know his parenting well. First

0:51:58.840 --> 0:52:01.280
<v Speaker 1>of all, I just want to say we have gotten

0:52:02.760 --> 0:52:06.400
<v Speaker 1>so many emails this week, um, because you guys like

0:52:06.440 --> 0:52:08.719
<v Speaker 1>showing off your kids. And I'll tell you what, we

0:52:08.800 --> 0:52:12.040
<v Speaker 1>love seeing pictures. We're gonna We're definitely going to do

0:52:12.120 --> 0:52:16.399
<v Speaker 1>another another We Knows what they look like segment next week.

0:52:17.000 --> 0:52:19.319
<v Speaker 1>Now that we have a ton of them, so keep

0:52:19.360 --> 0:52:22.920
<v Speaker 1>them coming. Um, we love you. We got a lot.

0:52:22.960 --> 0:52:25.560
<v Speaker 1>We're going to be on the road next week, so

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