Speaker 1: Oh boy, I'm Peter McNerney, like exciting a beat intro. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm Beth Newell. I can't wait. I'm so excited. I
Speaker 1: feel good. I took a nap today. You slept all day.
Speaker 1: No I didn't. I was hyperbolic, But you took a
Speaker 1: took a major nap. It was like an hour or two.
Speaker 1: It's it was a major in the sense that I
Speaker 1: don't usually take naps. I think it was more than
Speaker 1: two hours. I'm not complaining. I was just worried that
Speaker 1: you were something was wrong. You woke up and you
Speaker 1: were all well rested. Well, I well, okay. So the
Speaker 1: elephant in the room, around the whole globe, fin in
Speaker 1: the on the planet is coronavirus, and so I, as
Speaker 1: usual as a virgo, I like to plan. So we're
Speaker 1: trying to start strong with the positivity where our kids
Speaker 1: are off school for two weeks um and so I'm
Speaker 1: I'm just trying. I'm trying. This is not normal, this
Speaker 1: is not this seems so normal for where we are
Speaker 1: right now. I know it's not necessarily true for I
Speaker 1: don't know. I have country. I have friends around the country,
Speaker 1: like I have friends in l A and Richmond and Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: and like they are, they're feeling the panics like more.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's hitting the the pressure to lockdown.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's hitting other parts of the country
Speaker 1: more quickly than here in terms of how how fast
Speaker 1: the disease got here, because we knew that coronavirus was
Speaker 1: hitting a town over for us for days and they
Speaker 1: were kind of like barely putting together a response. And
Speaker 1: now I think people are starting around the country. You're
Speaker 1: starting to realize this is an issue, and they're locking down,
Speaker 1: maybe even before they kind of need to. I don't
Speaker 1: like this is so unprecedented. I don't know what the
Speaker 1: right answer is in terms of our response. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're not everyone's everyone's pretending to be an expert. Everyone
Speaker 1: and an expert. I'm guilty of this. I'm sure if
Speaker 1: you listen to the podcast, I probably spoke last week
Speaker 1: with some authority about something I had no authority. There's
Speaker 1: so many like self ordained experts on the internet, and
Speaker 1: also so little like accurate information going out in terms
Speaker 1: of what's happening, like especially from our federal government. Um,
Speaker 1: but I I you know, I got to dry cough.
Speaker 1: Are you Okay, too soon. Not funny, not funny. So
Speaker 1: let me just drink some more whiskey as we're doing
Speaker 1: many coping mechanisms. Um. So I'm trying to enter this
Speaker 1: two weeks of no school strong and just like try
Speaker 1: to have some healthy coping mechanisms, which was I went
Speaker 1: for a jog today. We took the kids on a
Speaker 1: nature walk, social distancing, and then my body was like
Speaker 1: that's enough. I need a long nap. Um this three
Speaker 1: hour nap and these dry coughs. Did you have coronavirus?
Speaker 1: Oh okay, let's not pretend that what just happened didn't
Speaker 1: just happen, which is Beth had me stop. I just
Speaker 1: had a little cop I had like a throat tickle
Speaker 1: thing going on. Oh that good thing. That's a symptom
Speaker 1: of the pandemic that's hitting our symptom. I don't I
Speaker 1: don't feel sick. But I'll tell you one thing that
Speaker 1: is happening that I I don't think. Um. I so
Speaker 1: last week I was carrying I had like a really
Speaker 1: bad day with the kids. I can't remember which day,
Speaker 1: just getting them home from school and may even that,
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes they get tired and hungry and they
Speaker 1: melt down on the way home, so I had to
Speaker 1: carry Mayven inside. So she's on my hip and her
Speaker 1: head is next to my head and she's screaming, tantruming,
Speaker 1: trying to get me to stop, and she's screaming in
Speaker 1: my ear. And when I woke up the next morning,
Speaker 1: I had a little bit of blood, like dried blood
Speaker 1: in my ear, and I think she might have slightly
Speaker 1: like ruptured my ear drum. No big deal, um, but
Speaker 1: I looked like I looked this up online and looked
Speaker 1: at for reasons why her ear is bleeding, and that
Speaker 1: seemed like the most plausible one. And it's also one
Speaker 1: that doesn't really require any treatment. So it seems like
Speaker 1: a really dumb time to go to urgent care when
Speaker 1: there's like infectious disease spreading around us. So I'm trying
Speaker 1: to ignore it. But I do like my ear does
Speaker 1: I feel just like a tiny bit pressured, if that
Speaker 1: makes sense. Yeah? Um, and so yeah, so kids are
Speaker 1: a nightmare and that's the lesson. Um, well, I hope
Speaker 1: it's to pop deer drum and uh not not this disease.
Speaker 1: It's definitely not this disease, isn't I trust me? That
Speaker 1: I googled coronavirus ear bleeding and that it's not a thing.
Speaker 1: Um um. So yes, we are very close to New Rochelle,
Speaker 1: which is locked down. Was the first town is totally
Speaker 1: locked down, and now our schools are locked down. Is
Speaker 1: it totally locked They just did like a one mile radio.
Speaker 1: It's not totally locked down, but all the schools and
Speaker 1: all now all their their public spaces. And I think
Speaker 1: the response around here has been okay so far. I mean,
Speaker 1: we don't know how bad it's going to get in
Speaker 1: New York City, and that's concerning. But like the fact
Speaker 1: that they canceled school for two weeks I think is good.
Speaker 1: The fact that they waited until after Friday to give
Speaker 1: us time to finish up the week. I think given
Speaker 1: the situation, what my concern is like, we don't know
Speaker 1: how long this lockdown is going to last and what
Speaker 1: is going to be necessary and this I feel like
Speaker 1: this coronavirus situation might go on from Hanson months, so like,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think you want to pull the
Speaker 1: trigger too soon on this, but it's like it's so
Speaker 1: hard to tell with all the weird information. Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: what's clear at this point, you know, it's the great
Speaker 1: danger is that everyone too many people get sick too
Speaker 1: quickly in it overwhelms the health care system. I know.
Speaker 1: And then I saw something online today that was like
Speaker 1: trying to debunk that theory and say that that's not good.
Speaker 1: I don't I didn't have time to read it, and
Speaker 1: then I lost it. And well, this is every conversation
Speaker 1: is somebody sees something like that and then they're like,
Speaker 1: I saw a thing that but I don't know, and
Speaker 1: so we're all well. And then sometimes I understand like
Speaker 1: people who are like, it's just a flu, it's nothing, like,
Speaker 1: that's wrong. You should we should be taking this seriously
Speaker 1: and we should be social distancing. But then sometimes I
Speaker 1: think people put stuff out to try to calm people down,
Speaker 1: and then other people are like, no, you can't be calm. Yeah,
Speaker 1: everyone has to be panicked. It's like there's a there's
Speaker 1: just like a lot of stuff flying around out there
Speaker 1: where I think you should stand for him, go to
Speaker 1: the CDC website, stuff like that, but you should try
Speaker 1: to stay offline right now because I think it's just
Speaker 1: like a there's a lot of fearmongering. You should be
Speaker 1: prepared and vigilant and on top of that positive. Yeah
Speaker 1: it is. That's take care of your mental health right
Speaker 1: now while we're in this very uncertain be smart, but yes,
Speaker 1: don't don't kill yourself. Don't go don't kill yourself. Okay, uh,
Speaker 1: rate up, follow the rules, be safe, stay away from
Speaker 1: each other, and lock it down and then enjoy it.
Speaker 1: I am taking our children um away from here to
Speaker 1: a to a family member's house that's totally empty right now,
Speaker 1: away from everybody, because a few hours away. Just for
Speaker 1: anyone's who's concerned that we are spreading disease from our
Speaker 1: the center of disease, we are. We have socially isolated
Speaker 1: now for a day or two. I think we're okay,
Speaker 1: you're going to try not to you're taking the kids,
Speaker 1: Oh yes, for the record, I'm taking them directly to
Speaker 1: a house and literally not stopping until we get there
Speaker 1: and ordering groceries. So we're not spreading If we're going
Speaker 1: to try it, yeah, I don't. Personally, I don't think
Speaker 1: we have it right now. I know it could be incubating,
Speaker 1: and that's been my fear all along, because our children
Speaker 1: are disgusting and lick everything, and we're in a huge
Speaker 1: freaking hotspot right now. But I don't think so far.
Speaker 1: Knock on what I don't think we have it? Um,
Speaker 1: but my parents were supposed to come this past weekend,
Speaker 1: the story part it's benefit. It was postponed to name
Speaker 1: my parents were to come, and uh, actually it was
Speaker 1: my little brother. It was like, you, guys, you can't come.
Speaker 1: You shouldn't, you know, and they're they're older, they're anymore.
Speaker 1: Your little brother has a baby too. Well, I guess
Speaker 1: he's worried about your parents. No, no, yeah, we're all
Speaker 1: of my brothers and I are all reading statistics. We
Speaker 1: know that we are low risk, but our parents are
Speaker 1: older and they're higher risks. We said, they put they
Speaker 1: put your parents are healthy. I did read today that
Speaker 1: people there's like a list of things that put you
Speaker 1: at risk, and it said people with endocrine issues are
Speaker 1: more at risk, which is like not great news for
Speaker 1: me because of my thyroid issues. What. Um, but I
Speaker 1: don't like, I don't really know what that means. You know,
Speaker 1: I didn't get more information on that little little Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Ill. I've probably said this before, but
Speaker 1: I don't fear death. Um, I thing, I don't think
Speaker 1: you've ever said that. Well, I personally, I believe there's
Speaker 1: an afterlife, and I believe in reincarnation, and I think
Speaker 1: that the world that we currently live in is much
Speaker 1: more of a pressure cooker painful situation than we will
Speaker 1: ever experience on the other side. And if I'm taken
Speaker 1: from here, my concern is for you guys, but not
Speaker 1: for me. Boy. You know what, It is so funny
Speaker 1: because I don't believe any of that. But I have
Speaker 1: a similar attitude where I mean, it's easy to say
Speaker 1: when you're healthy and relatively young to say, like, I
Speaker 1: don't fear death, but I don't bother worrying about it. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm a very like you know, you die and there's
Speaker 1: nothing type of attitude. So the conclusion is there's nothing
Speaker 1: I can do about it. Let me enjoy being here
Speaker 1: and and part of that is loving the people I'm
Speaker 1: around and making them happy. I also, like, because I'm,
Speaker 1: you know, a crazy person and I'm into manifesting type stuff,
Speaker 1: I don't I just don't think it's a good idea
Speaker 1: to like feed the fear in these situations. And I
Speaker 1: think we should be realistic and like, I don't not
Speaker 1: believe in science. I know this is disease is real
Speaker 1: and people will die from it, so we should try
Speaker 1: to be careful about spreading it. But prepared and positive. Yeah,
Speaker 1: prepared and positive, guys, Be prepared and be positive and
Speaker 1: take care of yourselves. I really do think like, especially
Speaker 1: as a parent, we've kind of, um unwillingly been subjected
Speaker 1: to a lot of social isolation in the last two years,
Speaker 1: and I do think we're like more prepared for this
Speaker 1: than other people, Like because we're lonely, is that what
Speaker 1: you're saying. No, just because we've had to develop a
Speaker 1: lot of coping mechanisms for the fact that, like we
Speaker 1: we can't commute into the city to hang out all
Speaker 1: the time and like do whatever we want, and sometimes
Speaker 1: we don't get to leave the house for days, and
Speaker 1: we you know, like I like I in a way,
Speaker 1: I sort of feel like we've been preparing for this.
Speaker 1: We're we're you are an introvert and I'm a secret introvert,
Speaker 1: and that we we get sick of people quickly and
Speaker 1: want to be by ourselves. So yeah, I also like,
Speaker 1: prior to this, I was already feeling pretty overloaded with
Speaker 1: the world and my workload and all this stuff, and
Speaker 1: that stuff is kind of still there, but it's kind
Speaker 1: of nice to be in a place where everyone is
Speaker 1: like overloaded and like confused about what's happening. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is our careers as entertainers. This is this question
Speaker 1: mark of what's next has been there all along, and
Speaker 1: it's like sort of refreshing that like, now we're all
Speaker 1: in this place of like what's going to happen? Not
Speaker 1: to I totally relate to what you're saying, not to
Speaker 1: downplay the people that are now suddenly in a very
Speaker 1: are your real tricky financial situation. Like we have a
Speaker 1: lot of friends who have a gig based work that
Speaker 1: suddenly he's just super dried up. Um, you know I
Speaker 1: work where the Magnet Theater where I work, Yeah, it
Speaker 1: shuts out for two weeks, no ticket sales, no classes,
Speaker 1: and that's a huge challenge. It's a good time to
Speaker 1: check in on people, like your elderly neighbors and see
Speaker 1: if you can go like pick up their prescriptions for them,
Speaker 1: or if you have like friends who our stay at
Speaker 1: home parents or whatever they need groceres. Like it's just
Speaker 1: a good time to check in with people if they're
Speaker 1: if they're gig economy, revenue has dried up. If you
Speaker 1: can send them some groceries, if you have the ability
Speaker 1: to do that kind of thing, it's a good idea. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And if you have people that you pay for for
Speaker 1: things that you're canceling, maybe pay them anyway. Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: talking about canceling our cleaning lady for this week and
Speaker 1: just paying her. Um, we have I have to figure
Speaker 1: how to do that. I like, our cleaning lady showed
Speaker 1: up this week on a day that was not her
Speaker 1: day of the week to clean and not her week
Speaker 1: that she usually comes because she comes every other week.
Speaker 1: And I like, in the midst of all this Corona stuff,
Speaker 1: I was like, is she okay? Like, is everyone okay?
Speaker 1: What is happening? Um, it's been just very surreal around here.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, oh boy. Yeah, and we've been oh boy,
Speaker 1: it is It's crazy. You know what? Despite all that, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what, stay positive, Let's just take a second ago.
Speaker 1: This is one of the this is uh one of
Speaker 1: the craziest things I have, um in my life. I
Speaker 1: have a yoga teacher that I don't actually see her
Speaker 1: very much in person, but she was a prenatal yoga teacher.
Speaker 1: I had and then we've like I just I stay
Speaker 1: in touch with her on Facebook um because she's also
Speaker 1: like a small business owner. She now has her own
Speaker 1: yoga studio and teaches meditation and and like she she
Speaker 1: was one of the people in our community that was
Speaker 1: like the quickest to like sort of sound the alarm
Speaker 1: bells and be like this is bad, Like we should
Speaker 1: we need to start doing stuff about this. And she
Speaker 1: was like first she was like disinfecting her business like crazy.
Speaker 1: And then a couple of days and she was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, we just need to shut this down
Speaker 1: into remote classes because we don't know what's happening. This
Speaker 1: disease is very close. Her son goes to school in
Speaker 1: New Rochelle where the virus is sitting, and like and
Speaker 1: every like she would post on Facebook a lot, and
Speaker 1: so many people were treating her like a crazy person
Speaker 1: and like she you know, like like one of her
Speaker 1: meditation students threatened to sue her for not hosting the
Speaker 1: meditation class in person. It's like, I think right now,
Speaker 1: what I've seen, especially even before this with the election,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people arguing for things that I
Speaker 1: do think they need, like things like healthcare. I understand
Speaker 1: people are very in need right now. But I think
Speaker 1: what you have to understand about people right now is
Speaker 1: that are the state of our country has made them
Speaker 1: so traumatized that they're not always in the right mind
Speaker 1: in their reactions two things, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like people are just like people are losing it and
Speaker 1: it's but it's not their fault. It's not their fault
Speaker 1: that like, there's so many pressures on them with the
Speaker 1: gig economy and the lack of health insurance and a
Speaker 1: lack of mental health care and like a lack of
Speaker 1: ability to pay their bills. I just blame everything on
Speaker 1: social media for making and taking taking all of the
Speaker 1: not not to undercut what you're saying, but in the
Speaker 1: midst of all of that, then giving you, on top
Speaker 1: of all of that perfectly legitimate stuff you just said,
Speaker 1: fourteen unnecessary, vague things to worry about. I don't think
Speaker 1: social media is always great, but I don't necessarily think
Speaker 1: that's like the root of the problem, just exacerbates all everything.
Speaker 1: Before we have social media, people were suffering. Sure, sure,
Speaker 1: you just didn't have to see it, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: well yeah, oh boy. Anyway, what was good did happened
Speaker 1: this week. Good that happened this way. We got into
Speaker 1: our new house. We did. We were able to go
Speaker 1: in and start planning some renovations, which is great. Measurements taken.
Speaker 1: Things are moving along. I think it's actually going to happen.
Speaker 1: Do you know what's crazy? I didn't tell you this.
Speaker 1: So I shot a commercial this week and when I
Speaker 1: was on set, I met this older woman. I told
Speaker 1: her where I was moving. Uh, and she and she's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I grew up like three blocks from there, like my
Speaker 1: family's house was there. I lived there forever and then
Speaker 1: she just sold it like a year ago, and then
Speaker 1: moved to an artist loft a block from the Magnet
Speaker 1: Theater where I work. Wow, and we really connected. That's great.
Speaker 1: What does that mean? It's a sign? I know, But
Speaker 1: of what that this woman and I are pet ships
Speaker 1: in the night. There's just I don't know. I think
Speaker 1: there's a lot of signs happening for me personally lately.
Speaker 1: Was the dumbest one the dumbest sign mm hm, oh
Speaker 1: well this is okay, this is actually really funny. So
Speaker 1: I had a doctor's appointment and I came out and
Speaker 1: we were kind of like me and the doctor. We're
Speaker 1: talking about like kind of how much better I'm doing
Speaker 1: since I started seeing this doctor, and I was feeling
Speaker 1: good about the steps I'd taken for my health. And
Speaker 1: then I got in the car and I turned on
Speaker 1: the car and the radio started literally playing the song
Speaker 1: I saw the Sign by Ace of Bass, which was
Speaker 1: a very beloved song of my deceased brother growing up,
Speaker 1: and we would have like dance competitions and we would
Speaker 1: dance too. I saw the sign by Asa Base a lot,
Speaker 1: and it just kind of felt like like I, especially
Speaker 1: in light of what's happening now in the world, and
Speaker 1: like all this like it feels like to me, it
Speaker 1: feels like really more important than ever that people are
Speaker 1: taking care of themselves so that they are the best
Speaker 1: equipped to deal with what's happening. And I it felt
Speaker 1: like the steps that I have been taken to try
Speaker 1: to take care of myself were like validated in that
Speaker 1: moment that it was like it literally felt like it
Speaker 1: was like I saw the sign. It's the most literal sign.
Speaker 1: It was so funny. But I also like, on the
Speaker 1: on the drive to that same doctor's office recently, like
Speaker 1: I saw a bus stop ad that said I'm proud
Speaker 1: of you. And I was like, yeah, that's for me,
Speaker 1: Like that's like all these things. I'm just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's a sign. You know what. Today, I when
Speaker 1: I was napping and during my nap, you know, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I talked about this on the
Speaker 1: show much, but like I'm pretty into this very dumb
Speaker 1: thing called angel numbers. And so it's like if you
Speaker 1: see a repeating seven seven seven, whatever, that's like supposed
Speaker 1: to have a meaning. So during my nap, I literally
Speaker 1: saw seven seven seven, like in my in my mind's
Speaker 1: eye while I was laying in bed, and then I
Speaker 1: got it from my nap and picked up my phone
Speaker 1: and it was five on my phone. Good God. And
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, see, it's all proof of something.
Speaker 1: You don't have to believe it. It just makes me
Speaker 1: happy and that's all that matters, you know what. That's
Speaker 1: where I can get on board, where I'm just just
Speaker 1: like I love patterns, I love connecting things, and that's
Speaker 1: how I I've grown to appreciate your love of it
Speaker 1: is to let go of my need to, you know,
Speaker 1: try to debunk it for no good reason and then
Speaker 1: just go like yeah, that's a that's fun. I like it.
Speaker 1: I'm behind seven seven seven five five five is your cough? Okay? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just just I swallowed some coronavirus. Coronavirus, and now
Speaker 1: it's time for did you knows? This is where we
Speaker 1: learned something and share it with you, Beth. So, I
Speaker 1: thought that was kind of interesting topic for discussion right now.
Speaker 1: This is an article from huff Post called how to
Speaker 1: work from home without losing it with your partner or
Speaker 1: your kids. That's not applicable at all. Who can imagine
Speaker 1: what that would be like? It's by Katherine Pearson. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna sort of go through her bullet points, um.
Speaker 1: She says plan in twenty four hour chunks, um, and
Speaker 1: just sort of like the what she's acknowledging is like,
Speaker 1: we don't really know what's happening. I think a lot
Speaker 1: of us, and that you kind of have to take
Speaker 1: it day by day and just be like, what's the
Speaker 1: plan for dearload? Three things? I pray. This woman in
Speaker 1: my mom group who is also a Broadway actress, Laura Bananty,
Speaker 1: she posted a Twitter thread this week. Um, she was like,
Speaker 1: if your high school musical got canceled because of coronavirus.
Speaker 1: Please share videos of you and your uh like classmates
Speaker 1: performing and the videos are so good. It's just like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, that's great. It's such a good thread.
Speaker 1: I'll to send it to you later, but it's just
Speaker 1: like really quick sidebar. I played Jesus and God's Bill
Speaker 1: in high school and it wasn't until halfway through the
Speaker 1: performances that I realized that the entire text of the
Speaker 1: play was from the Book of Matthew, one of the
Speaker 1: the Bible, from the Gospel. You were like, hey, wait,
Speaker 1: is this religious? I was like, I was like, this
Speaker 1: is one of the Gospel, the Gospel's Gospel god Spell. Oh,
Speaker 1: and I realized that I had memorized most of the
Speaker 1: Book of Matthew, and I was like, I really missed. Boy,
Speaker 1: I'm seventeen or night. Okay. So she also talked in
Speaker 1: this article about establishing blue zones, which is carving out
Speaker 1: areas in your home that are strictly yours, which they
Speaker 1: acknowledge is very hard if you live in a tiny apartment,
Speaker 1: and it's sometimes like it sometimes means that you have
Speaker 1: to take a conference call in the car, which is
Speaker 1: something we're very familiar with. UM, but It's just like
Speaker 1: I do think it's good to sort of be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: how are we going to map this out? What's the plan?
Speaker 1: And yes, the plan will go out the window when
Speaker 1: your kids come in and pull on you. But um,
Speaker 1: things to know. It says work in shifts, which a
Speaker 1: lot of these things are we're we are already familiar
Speaker 1: with because we already try to work on the weekends
Speaker 1: all the time. Um, And it says focus on the upsides.
Speaker 1: This is where I'm really trying to like lean into
Speaker 1: right now. It's like, Okay, this is like under other
Speaker 1: circumstances where there wasn't a health emergency. If it was
Speaker 1: like you have two weeks off with your kids and
Speaker 1: you have to spend time with them, I do think
Speaker 1: the goal would be like, Okay, let's make this quality time.
Speaker 1: Let's like obviously go easy on ourselves. There's gonna be
Speaker 1: a lot of screen time, but like also like what
Speaker 1: how can we make the most of it? Can we
Speaker 1: do crafts? Like how can we enjoy each other? Um,
Speaker 1: I'm going to be alone in a house with our
Speaker 1: two kids for at least like for like four days
Speaker 1: or something. I think like two days. I think I'm
Speaker 1: committed to making a movie with him. M that's funny. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I will put a some sort of tape based mustache
Speaker 1: on Maven and make her a villain. I think it
Speaker 1: would be a western western. Yeah, she's got a cowboy hat.
Speaker 1: Okay uh. And then it says, make friends with your anxiety.
Speaker 1: It's normal to feel anxious. Make friends with friends with
Speaker 1: your anxiety. Could you unpack that please? Well, it's just
Speaker 1: saying like it's normal to be anxious in this kind
Speaker 1: of situation. Don't fight it. Be honest with yourself about it.
Speaker 1: Like I was telling my I have I have friends
Speaker 1: who are kind of dealing with different I think this
Speaker 1: is hitting everyone in different ways, and it just kind
Speaker 1: of triggers whatever your particular anxiety is. Like I was
Speaker 1: telling you today, like, it's interesting to me that in
Speaker 1: moments of stress, your anxiety always goes to financial anxiety
Speaker 1: for some reason. Um. But like I have a friend
Speaker 1: who has a newborn baby, and she's anxious because it's
Speaker 1: just like she has a newborn. She's already anxious because
Speaker 1: she's trying to sleep train and she's exhausted. And I mean,
Speaker 1: so that's on a newborn I guess it's like a
Speaker 1: few months old baby, but she's tired, and so I
Speaker 1: was telling her, like it would already be very normal
Speaker 1: for you to be anxious in the situation, Like just
Speaker 1: go easy on yourself that you're anxious, Like it's okay
Speaker 1: that you, as a person with a baby, are anxious
Speaker 1: when there's also a global pandemic happening, even though logistically
Speaker 1: I don't think this is going to really affect your
Speaker 1: baby directly. I just turned it into a story make
Speaker 1: friends with What is it? What does the title? Make
Speaker 1: Friends with your anxiety? Yeah, I'm picturing anxiety is your
Speaker 1: hyper neurotic friend who comes over and you want to
Speaker 1: validate their concerns, but you also want to let it
Speaker 1: flow through you so you can help them calm down.
Speaker 1: Your anxiety is your neurotic friend, right, well, welcome them in.
Speaker 1: You don't feed You don't want to feed the anxiety,
Speaker 1: right like you don't want to consume the news seven,
Speaker 1: But you also don't want to try to push it
Speaker 1: down and deny it you gently. Yeah, So anyway, um,
Speaker 1: and I guess that's the I guess that's the last
Speaker 1: point of this article, but I thought it was interesting.
Speaker 1: I think also if you want to work from home
Speaker 1: really effectively, UM, have your husband take the kids out
Speaker 1: of town so you can be alone for four days.
Speaker 1: You keep saying four days, and I don't think it's
Speaker 1: going to be that long. Three or four. You said Tuesday, Wednesday.
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens. Right, You're gonna miss us too much? Nope.
Speaker 1: I ordered an Apple TV to be sent to the
Speaker 1: house where we're going great. It was that our arts
Speaker 1: and crafts, well, arts and crafts would also be good.
Speaker 1: But there'll be some of that too. Oh, I'm really
Speaker 1: committed to the movie. Now, please email us the title
Speaker 1: of Okay, now, don't these assignments shut would you give
Speaker 1: our listeners assignments? It's completely self serving and not Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not why else would I have? Why else to
Speaker 1: have a podcast? That's not how you create engagement when
Speaker 1: you if you're not why I'm doing it, I'm doing
Speaker 1: it because well, it's not effective or useful. It will
Speaker 1: be for what I need, listeners. I'm going to shut up. Listen,
Speaker 1: I'm going to shoot a movie with my kids. I
Speaker 1: just want you to email with the title of the
Speaker 1: movie should be, and that'll be an inspiration for the script.
Speaker 1: That we write. It's not for the podcast, it's for me.
Speaker 1: I was joking with my friends, like I think so
Speaker 1: many of the women I know, their reaction to coronavirus
Speaker 1: is like, okay, pretty practical. It's like stock up on food,
Speaker 1: toilet paper, like make sure my kids are taken care of,
Speaker 1: like maybe something to entertain the kids. And then like
Speaker 1: our male partners or like men we know, are like
Speaker 1: what's going on with the stark market, Like maybe I
Speaker 1: should buy a weapon. Like it's just like they're like
Speaker 1: their reaction is like, so I need to get a catapult. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it says like stuff that have Like I understand we're
Speaker 1: all anxious right now, but like, could you redirect that
Speaker 1: to something useful to the collective? You never know what
Speaker 1: you well, I just I'm not saying all men. I've seen, um,
Speaker 1: some nice men doing nice things, and I think, you know,
Speaker 1: I saw what. Okay, I'm talking to some nice thing,
Speaker 1: but there's a really nice thing on. Yeah, you ignored
Speaker 1: me for a full week when I said we should
Speaker 1: be stalking up on supplies, so I had to do
Speaker 1: like three store runs by myself. And then we'll say
Speaker 1: I'm handling everything else very well. What does that mean?
Speaker 1: Everything else? I'm taking our kids away. Okay, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of big things to deal with that. I sent
Speaker 1: days stalking up on food. And then you were like,
Speaker 1: what if we just left town and left all this food?
Speaker 1: And I was like, can we wait a couple of
Speaker 1: days while we eat the soup? I made like and well,
Speaker 1: I mean, in my defense, when you stocked up, we
Speaker 1: didn't know everything was going to be canceled. No, we knew.
Speaker 1: This is like where things were leading if you're following
Speaker 1: the um. Some nice things I've seen people doing online.
Speaker 1: So there was a Twitter threat of someone who they
Speaker 1: were at. They were going to the grocery store, and
Speaker 1: this elderly couple was sitting in their car with the
Speaker 1: window cracked, and they were like, hell, help help, and
Speaker 1: they were like wanted. They have been waiting for someone
Speaker 1: for like an hour to come along and maybe go
Speaker 1: inside and buy their groceries for them, because they were
Speaker 1: very old and they didn't want to get sick. And
Speaker 1: so this person went to the store and bought their
Speaker 1: groceries for them, which I think is really nice. And
Speaker 1: then I've seen other people I know on Facebook like
Speaker 1: they'll like post a sign in their apartment building and
Speaker 1: be like, here's my phone number. Any like elderly neighbors,
Speaker 1: anyone who needs help. If you can't, like, just call
Speaker 1: me or text me if you want me to go
Speaker 1: pick up your prescriptions or whatever. I feel like people
Speaker 1: are like I've seen things like that, like New Yorkers
Speaker 1: doing that. I think that's really great. Um. I just
Speaker 1: think like I do think, in spite of how scary
Speaker 1: this is, I think it's highlighting a lot of the
Speaker 1: weaknesses in our system in a good way. I think we,
Speaker 1: like you know, we have to band together, and I
Speaker 1: hope that people will come out of this with a
Speaker 1: little more social awareness and social responsibility and stop going
Speaker 1: to bars and spreading disease. Being off work is not
Speaker 1: an excuse to go spread your germs around self. It's
Speaker 1: just just everyone, just the whole world. Take two weeks,
Speaker 1: then all those people who are sick. I think two
Speaker 1: weeks might be optimistic, though I don't know what is
Speaker 1: going to happen. Well, well, I mean if we if
Speaker 1: literally everyone self isolated for two weeks, then there's that
Speaker 1: amount of time if there's no spreading that all of
Speaker 1: those people that are going to recover recover and now
Speaker 1: have immunities and it becomes way harder for things to spread. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but some people work in hospitals, some people are Amazon
Speaker 1: delivery people, like, they're still going out there. There's not
Speaker 1: going to be a zero spread, even if most of
Speaker 1: us are pretty responsible. Right, Well, it's the more you
Speaker 1: can do all at once. That's the flattening of the curve.
Speaker 1: And it doesn't overwhelm the the system. You spread it out.
Speaker 1: Maybe get to the point where we get a little vaccine.
Speaker 1: And let's hope we get a vaccine. Considering our president
Speaker 1: turned down the World Health Organization test for this virus.
Speaker 1: He just took it. We found out it was negative. No,
Speaker 1: I mean he turned the World Organization was sending the
Speaker 1: test around to different countries, and he and his administration
Speaker 1: decided that we should develop our own tests and waste
Speaker 1: time doing that, and then we developed a faultier test
Speaker 1: that doesn't work as well. Don't get me started. No,
Speaker 1: I am allowed to get starred. I didn't mean that literally,
Speaker 1: that colloquially. Colloquially anyway, Um, we should say that we
Speaker 1: are recording this um two days earlier than we normally do,
Speaker 1: so the whole world could have fallen apart since we
Speaker 1: recorded this, so so sorry for Yeah, by the time
Speaker 1: you're listening to this, if it even gets released, we
Speaker 1: could be on fire. Yeah, we might. We might be
Speaker 1: on fire right now. Not not the world, just us
Speaker 1: two today. So I really do believe there's like a
Speaker 1: collective unconscious and that we kind of like pick up
Speaker 1: on things, whether or not we are directly knowledgeable what's
Speaker 1: happening when there's tension in the world. And today Maybe
Speaker 1: and Brenn we're playing and they're talking about their like
Speaker 1: playing and Bryn was like talking about my sister who
Speaker 1: lives in Brooklyn, and he was like, Ali, her town
Speaker 1: got struck by lightning and she can't come. And then
Speaker 1: Maybe was like, but I love her. And I was
Speaker 1: texted my sister to let her know they were saying this,
Speaker 1: and she was like, are they is this them processing coronavirus?
Speaker 1: Which like they we haven't told them that like much
Speaker 1: about it. I did, like I've been trying to tell
Speaker 1: Brenda wash his hands more. And then he gets angry
Speaker 1: and he told me I'll never meet someone with coronavirus
Speaker 1: in my whole life. Um, he did try to open
Speaker 1: the fridge with his mouth today and I was like,
Speaker 1: this is what we were talking about. I know, it's
Speaker 1: our fridge. You'll be fine. We need to get better
Speaker 1: on the germs thing, because they are not kidding, they're
Speaker 1: real five and three year old. So we went for
Speaker 1: our nature walk today and there was by the way,
Speaker 1: the nature preserve has never been busier. Everyone, well, we
Speaker 1: can't go to a crowded places. Let's go where no
Speaker 1: one goes. It was still good, we were still able
Speaker 1: to social distance, but the parking lot was packed. Um.
Speaker 1: But so we were walking and we passed these like
Speaker 1: three older girls, at least relative to Maven who walked by,
Speaker 1: and Maven was like cool, cool older girls. And as
Speaker 1: they passed by, I heard these girls go what did
Speaker 1: what do they say? They're like, can you imagine if
Speaker 1: my parents were dead? And then and then others like
Speaker 1: imagine my parents are dead? And I realized, like, there,
Speaker 1: I've read hundreds, tens of thousands of stories written by kids,
Speaker 1: and there is a through line of stories written by
Speaker 1: probably aged seven to twelve year old girls who love
Speaker 1: to write about uh, young female protagonists whose parents are
Speaker 1: dead well, which is like every Disney movie even children. Yeah,
Speaker 1: children's fiction is full of orphan children and then romanticize
Speaker 1: it and make it seem sort of like really great
Speaker 1: that your parents are dead, like Harry Potter. Um, But yeah,
Speaker 1: I already told you this. But I was at the
Speaker 1: same nature preserve like a week ago, and I was
Speaker 1: trying to go for nature walk and these two boys
Speaker 1: walked up to me, who are like nine or ten
Speaker 1: years old, and one of them was like, um, excuse me,
Speaker 1: Can I ask you the question, Um, if there are
Speaker 1: deer and they're walking towards you, is that dangerous? There's
Speaker 1: some deer over there. And then his friend interrupted and
Speaker 1: he was like, no, no, that's not the question. The
Speaker 1: question is do you know what time it is? And
Speaker 1: I so I gave them the time. I told him
Speaker 1: what time it is, and then they were like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, we gotta get out of here, we have
Speaker 1: to go, and then they ran on. That's when the
Speaker 1: deers said they would come and meet us and walk
Speaker 1: towards us quiet devon. They're kind of trying to warn
Speaker 1: me that there was deer about because this nature preserved
Speaker 1: we go to always has deer and deer. But like,
Speaker 1: I can see how if you're like a kid and
Speaker 1: there's this deer just like hanging out. You're like, uh,
Speaker 1: is this dangerous? Maybe it's not a dumb question? Really?
Speaker 1: Nine or ten? They're really cute alright, ten? Great age. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so the moral of the article, the moral of the article, well,
Speaker 1: it's just like the moral moral of the article I
Speaker 1: think is like, have a plan, set some expectations with
Speaker 1: each other, Like let's all try to support each other, yeah,
Speaker 1: so that we can all get some work done. This
Speaker 1: next segment is called Listeners Want to Know, is where
Speaker 1: we take questions and comments from you guys. This email
Speaker 1: comes to us from Mindy. Mindy says first time writer
Speaker 1: Hi Beth and Peter. I've been listening to you guys
Speaker 1: for a long time, and I love every episode. I
Speaker 1: cannot find another podcast that brings me as much joy.
Speaker 1: So I am currently realist too for the fun of it.
Speaker 1: Is nice. You're gonna know more about us than we do.
Speaker 1: I have a six year old daughter, Alicia, not Alyssa. Alicia,
Speaker 1: emphasized the I A Alicia, Alicia, Alicia Alicia. Well, you've
Speaker 1: definitely nailed it. I've definitely nailed one of those two.
Speaker 1: And uh so Alicia and twin month old boys and Grace.
Speaker 1: Congratulations on she goes. Yes, it is Hell. I love
Speaker 1: listening to your experiences with Brin due to the fact
Speaker 1: that him and my daughter are the same age and
Speaker 1: hit the same milestones. Pretty milestone is pretty close together. Anyways,
Speaker 1: I'm emailing you for advice on a heavy topic. Beth.
Speaker 1: This will hit home and maybe triggering for you. I'm
Speaker 1: married to a wonderful husband who is the father of
Speaker 1: my twin boys, but not Alicia. I met him when
Speaker 1: my daughter turned one. My daughter's father, or as I
Speaker 1: call it, orm donor, overdosed and passed away when she
Speaker 1: was two, never meeting her, knowing nothing about her being pregnant,
Speaker 1: with her knowing her father was an active drug user,
Speaker 1: and I'll just say not a nice person, was abusive, slash, manipulative,
Speaker 1: truly affected my way of loving real PTSD stuff. Oh.
Speaker 1: I had always planned on being upfront with her and
Speaker 1: keeping her in the know. However, after meeting my now husband,
Speaker 1: all of that changed. He ended up being totally amazing
Speaker 1: and wanting. I wanted to be the father figure in
Speaker 1: her life, and that's what happened. She only knows him
Speaker 1: as dad. I know her to know. I want I
Speaker 1: know I want her to know the truth of him
Speaker 1: not being her biological father, but I'm not sure how
Speaker 1: Slash went to approach this. The past five years with
Speaker 1: my husband were so great, I um I didn't have
Speaker 1: this huge desire to try to dissect this information with
Speaker 1: a little girl now, now her being six, she's so
Speaker 1: smart and capable of understanding a lot of things. But
Speaker 1: I don't want this to be confusing for her. She
Speaker 1: is aware that her at that her and Mommy have
Speaker 1: the same last name. I won't change mine until we
Speaker 1: get her officially adopted, which we are doing, but it
Speaker 1: is surprisingly giant pain in the ass. We live in
Speaker 1: Oregon and there are a lot of hoops we have
Speaker 1: to go through. I was thinking of throwing a party
Speaker 1: with our friends and family when we get her officially
Speaker 1: adopted and our names changed, but still don't know if
Speaker 1: that's when I should dig deeper, dig super deep into everything.
Speaker 1: It may be this year or maybe next year, so
Speaker 1: she'll be either six or seven. Looking at Brent, do
Speaker 1: you think you would be able to understand something like this?
Speaker 1: If so, how would you approach this or would you
Speaker 1: wait until he's a little older, say ten to twelve?
Speaker 1: When the concept may make more sense. Any advice would
Speaker 1: be great, thanks, mindy okay. My My immediate quick reaction
Speaker 1: to that is she'll understand, Yeah, I think okay, So
Speaker 1: I think, okay, take our advice with a grain of salt.
Speaker 1: We haven't researched this. I do think you should go
Speaker 1: with your gut in some ways on this situation. But
Speaker 1: my instinct is to not necessarily have a big talk
Speaker 1: sit down, but like just start offhand referencing the birth
Speaker 1: dad in this situation while she's still young, so that
Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like a shocker when she's ten. I think,
Speaker 1: I don't think you have to sort of I don't
Speaker 1: in this situation because it doesn't sound like he was
Speaker 1: ever an active parent, especially like I don't think you
Speaker 1: have to be like you had another daddy or like
Speaker 1: make it confusing for her for what she can comprehend
Speaker 1: at this age. But I do think, like, if you're
Speaker 1: talking like birds and bees, you can be like, mommy
Speaker 1: got you know, pregnant with this other man, Like there's
Speaker 1: sperm from this man, and you know, like I do
Speaker 1: think it's good to start planning seeds so she doesn't
Speaker 1: feel like the secret was hidden from her. I think
Speaker 1: it's all in how how you say it. Um. I
Speaker 1: really think to my mom and these types of heavy conversations,
Speaker 1: who is so great at being positive and open and
Speaker 1: matter of fact about things, and she never like the
Speaker 1: if you're bringing a ton of weight to a thing
Speaker 1: you're sharing, that scares a kid and they can tell
Speaker 1: that there's something important about it, right. I don't think
Speaker 1: you need to like sit them down, but just when
Speaker 1: you're talking about different things to be like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: well you're your brother's you know, I'm trying to think
Speaker 1: of a good way to say sperm sperm donation, but like,
Speaker 1: you know, we have different genes and you came from
Speaker 1: this guy, and yeah, you should say exactly what it is,
Speaker 1: which is that like, oh, you know you have a
Speaker 1: different biological father, and then explain what that means. I had.
Speaker 1: I had a moment with the kids this week. That's
Speaker 1: kind of really fun to me because like so I
Speaker 1: probably said this before, but like my brother who died
Speaker 1: um when he was twenty one and I was nineteen,
Speaker 1: and he died of oxoually cotton overdose. It was very unexpected,
Speaker 1: but like we sort of we don't talk about him
Speaker 1: a lot with the kids because they never knew him,
Speaker 1: but like we're trying to sort of bring it up,
Speaker 1: and I think he brought it up. So then this
Speaker 1: week Britain was drawing all of us as like eggs
Speaker 1: for some reason, and then he drew one egg with
Speaker 1: like scrabble on it, and he goes, that's Uncle Craig.
Speaker 1: He's cracked because he died, and like it really actually
Speaker 1: made me like simultaneously like laugh and emotional, like I was,
Speaker 1: like I was like it made me mostly like very
Speaker 1: happy and grateful that he knew who my brother was
Speaker 1: because I haven't really taken a lot of time to
Speaker 1: talk to him about my brother. But I do want
Speaker 1: them long term to know that my other like my
Speaker 1: brother is a huge part of who I am and
Speaker 1: like how I came to be, and like I don't
Speaker 1: I want them to know that, like this person was
Speaker 1: in my life. And so I was really like laughing
Speaker 1: because I think my brother would really like to be
Speaker 1: remembered as like a cracked egg, Like I think it
Speaker 1: really would have made him laugh, but it's like that's
Speaker 1: the way he's characterized by them. Well, when I read
Speaker 1: this email, um, the first thing I thought was this
Speaker 1: conversation I had with Brin because he came up organically, uh,
Speaker 1: because we're going, you know, talked about backwards in time
Speaker 1: and sort of our family timeline. And I had a
Speaker 1: moment where I was like, this is something that Beth
Speaker 1: should tell him. But because he came up organically, I
Speaker 1: was like, if I say that now, I'm going to
Speaker 1: turn it into a big deal. And it's important and
Speaker 1: it's sad things. But so I just I just turned
Speaker 1: on my mind. I turned on my mom's voice and
Speaker 1: immediately just and it's this this tone she had or goes, oh,
Speaker 1: you know that mommy had a brother named Craig and
Speaker 1: he actually died, and he goes really and goes yep,
Speaker 1: And I said it was very sad. Um, yeah, and
Speaker 1: he he took he took too much of a medicine
Speaker 1: that he shouldn't have been and he died and he
Speaker 1: was very sad, and he could tell it was sad,
Speaker 1: but he also it felt fine. So the way I
Speaker 1: was thinking about this when I read this email is
Speaker 1: the way you tell your daughter is as if this
Speaker 1: imagine that this event had happened to your daughter's best friend.
Speaker 1: And no, no, bear with me for a second, Like
Speaker 1: if this if your daughter's best friend had the same
Speaker 1: experience happened and she just found out about it, and
Speaker 1: then you had to tell that story to your daughter.
Speaker 1: Oh like your friend who like your bio dad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: your friends, but your friends actually has a different biological
Speaker 1: father who passed away, so I didn't know about it.
Speaker 1: The tone you would use would be sensitive, but it
Speaker 1: wouldn't be It wouldn't be stern, and it wouldn't be
Speaker 1: overly precious. It would be a matter of fact and sensitive.
Speaker 1: Bring that tone to it. One of my pet peeves
Speaker 1: about the grieving process is like as Americans were not
Speaker 1: very comfortable with death, and we like try to hide
Speaker 1: it away instead of just like talking about the elephant
Speaker 1: in the room, which is like for grieving people, it's
Speaker 1: like every other second you're thinking about the person you lost,
Speaker 1: Like it's not a mystery, Like it's not like you're
Speaker 1: not offending that person by bringing it up, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. And I think we have a tendency
Speaker 1: as a culture to be like, oh, I don't want
Speaker 1: to hurt someone's feelings by talking about this dark thing,
Speaker 1: litta blah blah blah. And it's like, no like knowledge it.
Speaker 1: You don't have to necessarily like force them to get
Speaker 1: into it at various points, but like you should be
Speaker 1: mindful of the fact that people are going through dark
Speaker 1: things from time to time, you know, like I don't
Speaker 1: just don't show people fear, yeah, just like yeah, just
Speaker 1: like openly and be like, oh yeah, like you're this
Speaker 1: these things you're dealing with. And I think the same
Speaker 1: thing for addiction, to be honest, like, just like because
Speaker 1: we create so much shame and fear around it that
Speaker 1: it makes it even harder thing to deal with than
Speaker 1: it is to begin with. So I would say six
Speaker 1: is the perfect age. I think any any longer and
Speaker 1: it starts to feel like we've been hiding something from you.
Speaker 1: But I think she'll completely under She'll have questions, she
Speaker 1: might to completely understand, but trust that six year olds
Speaker 1: are very smart. They just don't have enough context sometimes together.
Speaker 1: You don't have to bring it up all the time,
Speaker 1: just like once in a while, just if it comes up,
Speaker 1: don't don't like run away from the issue. And I
Speaker 1: think as a six year old, she's probably going to
Speaker 1: process it in some weird ways and ask some weird questions.
Speaker 1: And I think it's like it's good to let her
Speaker 1: lean into that and like if she has kind of
Speaker 1: like a sick fascination with it for a week, you know,
Speaker 1: like let her do her thing, because it's like that's
Speaker 1: how kids process and they they say and ask weird
Speaker 1: things and that's part of the process and it's good.
Speaker 1: And just show her it's fine and that everything happened
Speaker 1: the way it happened and here we are now and
Speaker 1: she has her daddy now and her dad obviously, and yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I think the tricky part, I think is
Speaker 1: just sort of trying to find the terminology that is
Speaker 1: age accessible and also feels sort of respectful, respectful of
Speaker 1: the situation, which is that this man was never really
Speaker 1: a dad to her. Her bio dad. He was, you know,
Speaker 1: he's the reason she is here, but he you know,
Speaker 1: he's not her dad, and she gets still gets to
Speaker 1: have her dad, and like you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: I think those are the things you might have to
Speaker 1: think through a little bit. But I don't think it'll
Speaker 1: be as hard as it might seem in your mind,
Speaker 1: because your daughter is going to process it slowly over
Speaker 1: many years. Show her that you are fine with it,
Speaker 1: and she will be fine with it, um ps its
Speaker 1: the ps here I will say, um just because well
Speaker 1: I'll just read it. I'll say I keep in contact
Speaker 1: with my ex as mom. She lost her husband about
Speaker 1: two years ago after her son, her only son. I
Speaker 1: am Mexican, have a huge family, lots of names, boylos uh.
Speaker 1: So my daughter just refers to her as Nana Lupita,
Speaker 1: which is not that uncommon for us to have a
Speaker 1: lot of relatives like that. Also, here's a pick of
Speaker 1: my kids. Yes, no is a little redhead. My husband
Speaker 1: is not a redhead. Oh my god, alright, ready, cute picture.
Speaker 1: So this is a mini segment where we go we
Speaker 1: knows what they look like. Where I show a picture.
Speaker 1: I showed a picture of kids to Beth and she
Speaker 1: reacts because she loves all children, and you know this
Speaker 1: will be no different. Ready, Beth one two three, boom
Speaker 1: Oh he has glasses. A little kid with glasses. One
Speaker 1: of my friends kids just got glasses. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: that's so cute. Gosh, I love these I love these children. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's the redhead. What color hair is the Maleman's just kidding.
Speaker 1: But I think the fact that the biological grandmothers in
Speaker 1: the picture, I think only makes it easier because it's
Speaker 1: just you know, you say, um, what did she say,
Speaker 1: A Bola Lupizza or Nana Lupizza? She said, like, I
Speaker 1: think she can just be like, you know, Nana Lupizza
Speaker 1: had this son, and that's how you Yeah, yeah, you um,
Speaker 1: your biological father, uh you know, uh passed away before
Speaker 1: you are old enough to know him. That's the fact
Speaker 1: you start with that. Yeah. I wonder if there's a
Speaker 1: book out there for this kind of thing, and just
Speaker 1: in terms of the terminology that kids are, what's accessible
Speaker 1: for little kids. Yeah, again I'd say, be okay with it,
Speaker 1: and she will too. Well. Um, thank you mindy, thank
Speaker 1: you for asking guests, and thank you for re listening.
Speaker 1: I hope you're not in this section where we were
Speaker 1: fighting all the time. Is that hard to get through?
Speaker 1: What was our life like then? We don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know. We've been We've been tired a lot. This
Speaker 1: has been another episode we know his parenting well. First
Speaker 1: of all, I just want to say we have gotten
Speaker 1: so many emails this week, um, because you guys like
Speaker 1: showing off your kids. And I'll tell you what, we
Speaker 1: love seeing pictures. We're gonna We're definitely going to do
Speaker 1: another another We Knows what they look like segment next week.
Speaker 1: Now that we have a ton of them, so keep
Speaker 1: them coming. Um, we love you. We got a lot.
Speaker 1: We're going to be on the road next week, so
Speaker 1: stay safe, safe, stay rested, do what you gotta do.
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