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Speaker 1: Second date, up date.

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Speaker 2: What are the classic signs that your date is not

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Speaker 2: going well?

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Speaker 3: Maybe they keep forgetting your name.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they asked the waiter for separate checks before you

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Speaker 2: even order out, or they FaceTime their mom trying to

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Speaker 2: hook you up with her instead.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean you.

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Speaker 5: Upgrading dates.

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Speaker 3: They liked the show.

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Speaker 2: May it sound as bad about I thought, But our

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Speaker 2: listener Noah said he saw clear signs immediately on his

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Speaker 2: date that things were just not going right.

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Speaker 4: Immediately. That means she's not even given you a chance.

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Speaker 3: Let's hear from him. Noah, Welcome to the show man.

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Speaker 5: Hi, Hi, thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 4: God immediately this is terrible.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So tell us about the name of this

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Speaker 3: lady and how you met her.

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, So her name is Sophie, and we met

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Speaker 5: on a dating app. When I saw her picture, I mean,

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Speaker 5: she's totally my type. She's got these beautiful brown eyes,

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Speaker 5: long dark hair. I mean, to be honest with you,

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Speaker 5: I just felt like I was lucky that she matched

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Speaker 5: with me.

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Speaker 4: Oh that's a nice compliment.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, her, you know, And we started like messaging really quickly,

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Speaker 6: and the messaging.

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Speaker 5: Back and forth was good and it was natural, and

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Speaker 5: I got the impression that she's like a worldly.

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Speaker 4: Person, like she travels a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like she's a traveler, you know, and like what

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Speaker 2: from her pictures that she was traveling.

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Speaker 5: No, No, just like the way she was talking, you know,

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Speaker 5: she would like bring up weird facts about like countries

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Speaker 5: and stuff, or talk about smart, loving to go on

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Speaker 5: vacations and things like that, and.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's cool and you like that about her obviously, Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Sure.

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Speaker 5: I mean I admit I haven't really traveled much in

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Speaker 5: my life, but I I like that, you know, and

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Speaker 5: I like somebody to know stuff.

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Speaker 6: And maybe that's somebody, yeah, introduce it to you.

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Speaker 5: Sure, yeah, I mean it was. I was all about it.

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Speaker 5: And eventually it got to the point where I was like, well,

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Speaker 5: do you want to meet up in person? And she

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Speaker 5: said yeah, And she said she wanted to go on

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Speaker 5: a European date.

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Speaker 4: Does that mean it dinner starts at eleven pm?

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Speaker 5: It's kind of weird thing, right, Like I didn't exactly

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Speaker 5: know what that meant.

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Speaker 2: Like actually in Europe and travel there or just a

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Speaker 2: European style cuisine.

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Speaker 5: You know, I didn't get the imperson she wanted to

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Speaker 5: go to Europe. She said a European, you know, go

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Speaker 5: to like a European play, and she mentioned Scandinavia.

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Speaker 7: That was the thing.

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Speaker 5: It was like Scandinavia or like the Nordic countries or something, and.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's go have some pickled fish.

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Speaker 7: Oh there's a Scanningion coffee shop here that's really good.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, or maybe she wanted to go Dutch, meaning she

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Speaker 6: wants to split it equally.

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Speaker 5: And I didn't want to like ask any thing, because

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Speaker 5: I didn't want to seem like dumb, you know, I

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Speaker 5: didn't want to seem like I didn't know what she

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Speaker 6: Wait, and you're going to have to plan a date

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Speaker 6: without knowing what she wants.

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Speaker 5: Like, yeah, I mean I had a history of this.

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Speaker 5: I mean in college, I took a girl out and

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Speaker 5: didn't know what that meant. So I took her to

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Speaker 5: an Italian restaurant. We can't go to German because that, Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 5: I better to ask forgiveness and permission. I guess I

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Speaker 5: don't know, this is okay, And so I just rolled

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Speaker 5: the dice and I made a reservation at a couple

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Speaker 5: of different places, and I just figured i'd let her pick,

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Speaker 5: you know, And I was even worried, like my car's

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Speaker 5: a Japanese car, Like should I rent a European car?

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Speaker 4: Taking this too much? But she'd move there.

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Speaker 2: You're like way up in your own head before you've

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Speaker 2: even actually met her in person. Did you eventually meet her?

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Speaker 7: I did, so.

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Speaker 5: She wanted me to pick her up at her apartment

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Speaker 5: and looked just like her pick.

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Speaker 4: Okay, good time, okay, And then where does it go bad?

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Speaker 4: Because you said it went you got bad signs immediately.

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Speaker 5: Well, so this is where it started to get weird.

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Speaker 5: So while I was at her place, I told her

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Speaker 5: she said, I don't know if we should do that.

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Speaker 5: That's kind of a weird thing to say, right, So

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Speaker 5: I said, well, should I cancel the reservation? Well, like,

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Speaker 5: what do you want to do? And she was just

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Speaker 5: sort of noncommittal, you know, she said she was pretty tired.

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Speaker 4: Oh didn't that annoy you?

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry, but like you went through all this trouble

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Speaker 6: and she's being kind of rude about it.

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Speaker 4: In her house.

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Speaker 5: Well, it was less annoying and more just weird because

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Speaker 5: she had confirmed a half hour before this, and she

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Speaker 6: Night's over, Like Alexa said, you're inside her apartment and

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Speaker 6: she's canceling the.

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Speaker 4: Date in Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So I was starting to get worried that maybe

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Speaker 5: I didn't look like my pictures or something like.

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Speaker 3: Did I accidentally catfish this woman?

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Speaker 7: Yes?

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Speaker 5: Right, I didn't think I miss here presented myself, but

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Speaker 5: I just didn't know what was going on.

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Speaker 2: Or maybe she has a certain standard of European restaurant

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Speaker 6: Or maybe she was asking you to go to bed

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Speaker 6: with her immediately.

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Speaker 3: Broke that's just how works.

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Speaker 4: Maybe you were so sexy that you walked in and

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Speaker 4: she's like, cool, I am tired. It's the dinner.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was lying If I said that thought didn't

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Speaker 5: briefly pass through my head, but that was not the vibe.

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Speaker 7: I was getting it all.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So did you end up going out to eat anywhere?

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Speaker 5: No, I only spent like fifteen minutes there at her apartment,

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Speaker 5: and eventually I said, you know, I'll just go, and

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Speaker 5: so I left and I've been texting her but she

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Speaker 5: with her. But I figured, like maybe I screwed up somehow,

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Speaker 5: and I just don't know how.

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Speaker 3: Well, obviously you did, but I just don't know what

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Speaker 3: it is. It's our fault, for sure.

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Speaker 6: It's hard to think that you should even give this

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Speaker 2: But at the same time, it sounds like he wants

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Speaker 4: Well, and it also sounds like she's really hot, so

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Speaker 4: he'll put up.

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Speaker 5: With a lot really hot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, Well, we're gonna come back. We'll call Sophie

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Speaker 2: and try to get her to agree to I mean,

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Speaker 2: at least an American date, all the fast food cubon

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Speaker 3: We'll do it right after this hold On.

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Speaker 1: Second date update.

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Speaker 2: Out of all the dates that we've heard about this year,

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Speaker 2: this one might be the shortest. Just fifteen minutes that

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Speaker 2: Noah spent was Sophie.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and most of it was spent talking about how

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Speaker 6: she didn't want to.

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Speaker 2: Be in it, yeah, or trying to figure out which

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Speaker 2: European restaurant they should go to if they go out

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Speaker 2: at all, in a very productive conversation till eventually she

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Speaker 2: just said, you know what, I'm tired.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to go to bed.

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Speaker 8: God.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and that.

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Speaker 3: Would not even come with me.

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Speaker 2: No, just like I'm sleepy. That was basically it. And

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Speaker 2: not to be fair, Noah did say she is very hot,

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Speaker 2: and hot girls do require more beauty sleep, so we

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Speaker 2: should probably give her a little.

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Speaker 3: Bit of grace on that. So I've heard.

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Speaker 6: I will say, I feel like I dropped a couple

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Speaker 3: Oh, just a couple of points to.

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Speaker 2: At least get me some answers out of this, right, Brooke.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I don't know that you should probably

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Speaker 4: But what do I know? You're hey, what if he

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Speaker 4: did something wrong?

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Speaker 7: We don't know.

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Speaker 9: But well that's the thing.

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Speaker 5: I just want to know if I did do something wrong,

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Speaker 5: what it was, and maybe still give me a second chance.

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Speaker 6: Okay, So but remember, no matter how hot she is,

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Speaker 6: self respect is priceless.

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Speaker 1: Blah blaha.

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Speaker 3: Half of our listening audience.

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Speaker 2: Just to thank you for that, Conrad Brooke, Here we go,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna dial Sophie. Hopefully we can get her to

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Speaker 2: agree to if not a European date, just an American

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Speaker 2: style one.

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Speaker 3: But let's see what she has to say. Here we go.

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Speaker 7: Hello.

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Speaker 3: Hey, is this Sophie?

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Speaker 7: Yes? This is she? Who's this? Hey?

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Speaker 2: This is a radio show that you're on right now.

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Speaker 2: It's called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.

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Speaker 7: What Soie?

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Speaker 4: Glad to have you on it?

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Speaker 7: This is random you guys? How did you guys get

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Speaker 7: my number?

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Speaker 2: We got your number from one of our listeners that

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Speaker 2: you went on a date with recently, a guy named Noah.

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Speaker 7: Okay, I don't know.

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Speaker 6: If we could even say you went on a date.

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Speaker 6: He came to your house to take you on a date.

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Speaker 4: It just never seemed to happen, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: According to him, because we spoke to him about it, it

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Speaker 2: only lasted, he said, about fifteen minutes, and he was

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Speaker 2: pretty bummed out.

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Speaker 3: That's where it ended.

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Speaker 7: What is this whole thing about? How am I involved

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Speaker 7: in this?

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Speaker 3: This is a segment called a Second Date Update.

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Speaker 2: It's where we try to help our listeners get answers

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Speaker 2: for why things didn't go well on their first meetup

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Speaker 2: or why there hasn't been a second one. So we're

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Speaker 2: just trying to help know a figure out if he

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Speaker 2: did something wrong.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, because it's pretty easy to own that it could

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Speaker 6: be him.

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Speaker 2: I mean, and it is interesting that you said you

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Speaker 2: were bummed out that you didn't spend more time together.

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Speaker 2: Can you elaborate what you mean?

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Speaker 7: Sure?

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Speaker 8: Like I tried to give him some hints about what

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Speaker 8: I want for our first date, and I kind of

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Speaker 8: told him I wanted to do a European style date.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah we heard that.

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Speaker 7: Oh he told you that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he mentioned that you had brought it up and

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Speaker 2: that it was something you wanted to do. He wasn't

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent sure what you meant by a European date.

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Speaker 8: Though, so I tried to like give him more hints,

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Speaker 7: I like listed those three things and was hoping if

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Speaker 7: after college, I traveled.

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Speaker 8: A lot, Yeah, and I became more used to that

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Speaker 7: Are you guys picking up what I'm putting down? Because

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Speaker 7: he definitely.

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Speaker 5: What's a European style of dating?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: What do you mean?

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Speaker 7: So? I know this is like on the radio.

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Speaker 8: I don't want to be inappropriate, but when you go

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Speaker 8: on a first date, you're with that person, you hang

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Speaker 4: You mean more than hangout.

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Speaker 8: Yes, so, like it's the opposite in America where you

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Speaker 8: have to like play games and I'm small talk, try

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Speaker 8: to impress each other, but in Norway, you like get together,

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Speaker 8: get all of the nerves out.

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Speaker 4: Oh you test the chemistry right away.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's like a pre agreement, like you come over,

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Speaker 5: let's because.

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Speaker 3: You were a tourist there seeing.

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Speaker 4: It's like beautiful.

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Speaker 6: The Norwegian met are like, no, we swear this is

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Speaker 2: You're saying that's what you were wanting to do by

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Speaker 4: Oh my god.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I thought he knew that's what I wanted,

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Speaker 8: but he just didn't seem interested.

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Speaker 6: When he got when you did say, when you said,

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Speaker 4: You wanted him to come with you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, okay, interesting.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that that did not show up on

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I promise you he was not understanding the hints

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Speaker 3: But I way for dinner.

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Speaker 2: He really was a European style dinner. But now I

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Speaker 2: to you.

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Speaker 7: Are you joking.

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Speaker 3: Right now?

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Speaker 8: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Why are you embarrassed? Wouldn't you want him to know this?

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Speaker 7: Not now I feel horrible.

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Speaker 3: Well, don't feel I feel terrible.

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Speaker 2: Just talk to him because Noah's there, right, Noah?

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Speaker 5: Hi, Yeah, Hi, Yeah, I'm here.

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Speaker 6: He's like the biggest missed opportunity of my life.

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Speaker 1: Well, hi, hi, Sophie.

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Speaker 9: Uh, I'm trying to understand. You wanted to, like, you know,

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Speaker 4: His voice.

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Speaker 7: Guys, So I tried. I really tried giving you the hints.

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Speaker 8: But if you do it that way, the Norwegian way,

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Speaker 8: then all that pent up tension is gone and you

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Speaker 6: Oh, I am going to be so fascinated by our

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Speaker 2: Actually, that does make a lot of sense. If you

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Speaker 2: be yourself more.

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Speaker 4: When you're going out idiots.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm not saying I would do it, but mentally

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Speaker 2: it makes sense to me, Like you're more relaxed day that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, yeah, I'm tired.

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Speaker 3: No, what do you think about that?

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean I think it's cool. It's just kind

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Speaker 5: of surprising, I mean because I just had never heard that,

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Speaker 5: you know, but I mean sure, I'm down for that.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, Well that that was then the moment has

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Speaker 6: Now you're not going to give a guy a chance

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Speaker 6: to learn the Norwegian way.

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Speaker 8: I just don't know if he's as assertive as I want,

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think he was trying to be respectful,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I want to like you presume anything. I just

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Speaker 5: I think you're gorgeous and I just really wanted to

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Speaker 5: you want me to be assertive, I mean, I'm ready

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Speaker 8: I will say, I do think it's kind of sweet

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Speaker 8: that even though I didn't really explain it to you.

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Speaker 7: You still got.

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Speaker 8: These radio people to contact me.

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Speaker 7: And to figure it out, and I think that's kind

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Speaker 7: of cool.

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Speaker 5: Okay, well, I mean that is how they do it

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Speaker 2: European listeners are going to be like, yeah, So, now

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Speaker 2: that Noah has heard everything and he's fully clued into

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Speaker 2: give him another chance to have a proper European first

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Speaker 2: day with you? Because if you do, we're willing to

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Speaker 2: pay for the date, just the date, though nothing else.

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Speaker 5: Look Sophie, I will do all the research on Norwegian

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Speaker 5: style dating. I will call a Norwegian Yeah, I will

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Speaker 5: am prepared and it'll be the best date you've ever had.

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Speaker 4: Promise.

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Speaker 7: Okay, that's a lot to live up to. I'm definitely

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Speaker 5: Oh dude, you got to show up with a bare

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Speaker 5: minimum on, you know what.

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Speaker 3: I run to the bedroom ready.

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Speaker 2: Well, congratulations, Noah, you got yourself. I guess the first date,

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Speaker 2: first European style date for yourself.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, guys.

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Speaker 5: It's Sophie, like, before we get off here, like, should

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Speaker 5: I go on Amazon and buy like a Norwegian flag

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Speaker 7: That's hilarious. I've opened to surprises.

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Speaker 3: Right, ready for a full salute of that.

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Speaker 4: Flat right up the flagpole.

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Speaker 3: Congratulations. Definitely let us know how the first date goes.

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Speaker 4: Not all the details though, Yeah, just.

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Speaker 3: A video will do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Brooking Jeffrey in the morning.

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Speaker 2: Brook You ever feel like you were born in the

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Speaker 6: Oh man, I feel like I maybe have done Norwegian

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Speaker 3: No, yeah, it seems more like your style.

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Speaker 2: It calls like this make me feel like I should

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Speaker 1: I knew it, and.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I did google it. I typed in Norway,

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Speaker 3: I wanted to do my.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of that whole region up there. They hate

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Speaker 4: small talk, aren't they also hotter?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I told you, but long in Norway, right.

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Speaker 2: Some people believe that style of dating actually really helps.

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Speaker 2: Not everybody agrees with it, though, to each their own.

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Speaker 2: But I feel like Columbia was the big tourist destination

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Speaker 2: for dudes last year. Norway is going to be seeing

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Speaker 6: Goes to air, probably just because they were trying to

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Speaker 6: get hair transplants.

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Speaker 3: Whatever. I'm on that plane too.

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Speaker 2: You want to you want some help in your dating life,

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Speaker 2: European or American style will try to help you out.

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Speaker 3: Just email the show.

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Speaker 2: We'll call that person who's not calling you back, and

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Speaker 2: go check out all of our second Date podcasts. They're

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Speaker 2: up online wherever you get yours at Brooke and Jeffrey