WEBVTT - Sorry About the Drapes: The Dinner Set Gang 0:00:00.560 --> 0:00:03.400 Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:03.760 --> 0:00:07.160 Zaren Elizabeth Zaren, It's ridiculous. 0:00:07.360 --> 0:00:10.440 Yes, I do okay, I got one for you? You ready? 0:00:10.520 --> 0:00:16.080 I do okay. Joey Henny, Joey Henny, you heard that name? 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:17.120 No okay? 0:00:17.160 --> 0:00:19.560 Are we insulting Joey by saying he's ridiculous? 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:20.360 No? Not at all? 0:00:20.440 --> 0:00:21.680 Oh he's not what's ridiculous? 0:00:21.680 --> 0:00:24.239 Not at all? Please? Joey Henny is a hero of 0:00:24.280 --> 0:00:26.360 mine to be a hero of yours. I think once 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:29.080 I tell this story. He was a baseball lover like you. 0:00:29.520 --> 0:00:32.159 He wanted to go to a Phillies Pirates game, but 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:35.839 he wanted to take with him his emotional support animal. Now, luckily, 0:00:36.000 --> 0:00:41.440 the Philadelphia Phillies they're very generous and open and inviting 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:43.440 to all of this. They actually say on their Phillies 0:00:43.479 --> 0:00:47.159 official website quote guide Dog service animals or service animals 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:51.040 in training are welcome. All other animals are prohibited. So 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:54.520 Joey Henny's like, awesome, I can take my service animal 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:58.280 with me to the Phillies game. Because he'd been battling depression. 0:00:58.320 --> 0:01:00.639 He's an older cat, this Joey, and he's been having 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:03.959 a tough go so he brought with him his buddy Wally. Right, 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:05.920 So he and Wally went to the Phillies game. The 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:08.280 Phillies were like when he gets to the stadium, not 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:10.200 the actual team, but the administ you know, like the 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:12.640 officials for the stadium, They're like, oh, sorry, you can't come. 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:13.840 He's like, what are talking about. I looked on the 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:16.600 website says service animals, Like, sir, you cannot bring your 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:19.000 animal in. He's like, it says I can. Have you 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:21.800 seen your website It says I can bring service animals, Like, sir, 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:23.160 that is an alligator. 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:27.360 Yes, it is an emotional support His. 0:01:27.360 --> 0:01:30.959 Service animal was an alligator. He tried. He tried to 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:34.120 take an alligator to a Phillies game. He was denied. 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:36.360 He had him on a leash. It wasn't like he 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:37.440 was just in a paper bag. 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:42.760 I know there are people who use emotional support animals legitimately, 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:46.039 but I also know that that is highly abused. There's 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:49.240 a difference between a service animal and a support animal. 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:51.440 Well, I know, but he said, Well, according to Henny, 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:53.680 he told the Washington Post, when he turns his nose 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:56.120 towards you, that means he expects a kiss. He's super 0:01:56.120 --> 0:01:56.800 sweet natured. 0:01:56.880 --> 0:01:58.760 Uh huh, sure, I don't know. 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:00.480 It sounds like emotional support it. 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:04.560 Did he buy a ticket for the wally had a seat? 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:07.080 I suppose, so I don't know I was in it. 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:10.080 I'm there with an alligator looking right at. 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:14.040 Ridiculous, so hard, ridiculous, So phillies. 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:17.800 Phillies, that's incredible. Do you want to what else is ridiculous? 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:18.000 Oh? 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:41.760 Yes, please waiting until the main course to strike. This 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:46.240 is Ridiculous Crime A podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, heists, 0:02:46.280 --> 0:02:49.440 and cons. It's always ninety nine percent murder free and 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:51.240 one hundred percent ridiculous. 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:51.800 Damn right. 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:57.000 Sometimes Erin, I hear about crimes that are so well 0:02:57.040 --> 0:02:59.799 planned and so clever that I sort of don't feel 0:02:59.840 --> 0:03:00.560 bad about them. 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:01.840 What do you mean? Like? 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:05.520 I mean, I'm not talking about violent crimes or like 0:03:05.600 --> 0:03:09.000 the workers. No, my heart swells when I read about 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:10.320 a crime against fat cats. 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:11.960 Oh yes, I know you're pro crime and it comes 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:12.359 to fat. 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:14.920 Cats, especially when it's like really well thought out and 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:19.240 it's super like you criminal too, goly, I do you 0:03:19.280 --> 0:03:21.680 know everything's so out of balance right that, like the 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:24.959 richest of the rich, they live on another planet. Man 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:28.400 like they're for most Like if they lost half of 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:31.560 their worth, they wouldn't even feel it, which is crazy. 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:34.280 Like if you took half my stuff, I'd be in 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:35.240 a hole in the ground. 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:37.840 I'd be like, give me back that five dollars exactly. 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:41.480 Like so, like I wouldn't commit a crime unless someone 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:43.200 I loved was in imminent danger. 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:45.480 Yes, you are not a criminal. 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:47.560 I'm not a criminal, but I silently root for the 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:49.720 bad guys who do good in my opinion. 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:52.280 Yes, you do, the moralistic outlaws. 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:54.000 Boy, how do you do I have one for you? 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:54.520 Oh? 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:56.840 Yes, yeah, this crew chef's kiss. 0:03:56.880 --> 0:03:57.360 It's a crew. 0:03:57.480 --> 0:04:01.480 It's a crew. Peter Salerno. Is that name ring a bell? 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:02.640 He kind of does say. 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:06.400 It with me? Peters. He was born in nineteen thirty 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:09.000 nine and grew up in a cold water flat in Yonkers, 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:13.120 New York. He was raised by his factory worker single dad. 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:15.640 His mom took off when he was young looking for 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:18.880 a rich boyfriend. She was like upset that the dad 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:20.479 didn't make any money and was like, I want a 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:25.039 Cadillac by and then went and you know, hey, stranger, Yeah, yeah, 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:27.440 so she she wanted the fancy car, she wanted the 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:30.520 cash Sealerno. He didn't want to wind up like his dad. 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:32.200 He didn't want to slave at a job for a 0:04:32.240 --> 0:04:35.560 little recompense. And he was fit. He was like super buff. 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:38.000 He's like, I'm buff, I want nice things. 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:40.279 How do I make this colero. 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:46.000 He befriended the boxers Rocky Graziano and Jake Lamatta. Wow, 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:48.640 and they became his mentors and taught him how to fight. 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:50.960 Oh so he's like a thick dude. Oh yeah, No, 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:53.760 he's a thick boy. He is buff. 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:55.839 He had anger issues. 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:57.720 You told me he hung up with Jake Lamata. 0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:00.520 Yeah, right there, it's under standable. 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:02.680 You can't hang out with Jaglamant unless you understand his 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:06.000 angry so angry issues. 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:07.279 Which I get. You know, there weren't a lot of 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:09.599 therapies or outlets for young boys at the time in 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:11.719 the mid fifties, and a lot of bad modeling, and 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:14.880 a lot of bad modeling precisely. So he messed around, 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:17.560 and he wound up in reform school, and then he 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:20.120 messed around there and he wound up in sing sing, 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:24.039 and he was sixteen years old in sing sing, Like 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:25.960 you just try and get your head around that. So 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:28.680 he gets out keeps getting into more trouble, so his 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:32.680 dad reaches out to a pillar of the community, John Savino. 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:36.520 Peter Sealerno, he had a friend named Johnny, Johnny Savino. 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:40.120 So this is John John Senior, Big John Savino big, 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:40.640 and he was. 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:41.360 He was big John. 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:44.120 He was like a huge dude. Like everyone knew him too, 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:47.680 like physically, and then so sat So John Savino he 0:05:47.839 --> 0:05:51.520 was a mobbed up construction and waste management guy connected 0:05:51.560 --> 0:05:55.279 to the Genovesei crime family. Good for him, Uh, Sealerno, 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:58.920 I knew you'd like that. Hey, So Seleerno, this troubled 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:01.160 kid just gets out, just fresh out of sing sing. 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:04.840 I'm sixteen years old. He moves in with the Savino 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:08.280 family and they welcome him in as a son. They 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:11.520 had an older daughter, and then they had Johnny, and 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:14.560 then they had these twin girls. So Peter and Johnny 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:18.200 they're lazy. They're just lazy teens. But they also couldn't 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:19.960 keep jobs, and at this time, like they had to 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:23.839 have a job to keep everything running. So Seleerno, he 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:27.039 just drifted on. He tried a stint in college thanks 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:30.359 to the beneficence of his mom's new rich boyfriend. 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:31.640 Oh she did get herself. 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:34.160 He hooked up with a rich dude. It's like, can 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:36.000 you send my son to college? I wanted to be 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:38.600 a doctor like you. And the guy's like, yeah, shoo, whatever, honey, 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:41.440 and they send him and he's just bored. Like he 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:42.960 he does not make it like a semester. 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:44.440 Your son kind of thick in. 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:49.000 Thinking the body. And so he made his way back 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:51.600 eventually to the Savino family. He got a job as 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:55.800 a milkman. He's doing he hated every second of it 0:06:56.520 --> 0:07:00.280 early and then he met Papa Savino's brother Nick, and 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:03.720 so as a friend of the family Sealerno, he gets 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:06.760 welcomed in. He's given the occasional errand one of the 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:09.920 errands was driving Nick's daughter, Linda and all her friends 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:13.120 to the mall Ta Can Go shopping. So on one trip, 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:16.160 a friend of Nick's daughter was lamenting the fact that 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:19.200 she'd run out of money and couldn't continue her shopping spree. 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:20.960 That you know, there are all these other things she 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:23.000 wanted to buy and I just don't have any more money. 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:25.559 So the girl's brother's there. He whips out a hundred 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:28.320 dollars bill and is teasing her with it, and she 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:31.800 accuses him of taking it from their grandmother's hidden pocketbook 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:34.360 back at the house, like, did you take grandma's hundred 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:36.680 dollars ball? Ok And he's like, yeah, I took it, 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:38.480 but you know there's so many she's not going to 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:43.960 know it's missing. Okay. So Peter Sellerno's ears penny drops, 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:46.720 so he takes the kids back home, takes note to 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:49.360 the house. The girl was like bragging about how her 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:52.200 family's going to go out to dinner that night. So 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:55.680 that night Sealerno struck. He goes back to their brownstone 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:58.720 and he starts to creep in, but he realizes that 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:01.040 the other apartments in the bill we're gonna be able 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:03.920 to hear him, you know, the floors are creaky. So 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:06.480 he walks around to the side and he looks up 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:09.080 and he sees an open window, and there are these 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:11.720 brownstones all close. So he figures a way to shimmy 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:14.800 up between the close buildings and slip in the open window. 0:08:15.200 --> 0:08:16.800 Like you know how when walls are close enough and 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:18.920 you can wedge your back on one and feet on another, 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:22.320 kind of crab walket. That's what he did. So he 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:25.200 goes in, slips in the window. He finds a pocketbook 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:29.960 full of cash. He takes it, the whole pocketbook, you know, 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:33.360 empties it out, doesn't do anything else nowhere else, slips 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:36.120 back out off into the night. A career is born. 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:39.920 So you know, he was strong, he was nimble. He's 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:43.480 aware of his surroundings, like just constantly clocking everything. He 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:47.080 started watching other marks, like shopkeepers. There's one guy where 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:49.720 he saw that he followed him back and forth from 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:53.400 his green grocer stall every day, and notice that he 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:55.320 would go home and he'd go back in. He never 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:57.559 went to the bank. He's like, he's got to be 0:08:57.640 --> 0:09:00.439 keeping all this at home. Then he would strike. So 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:05.119 he found out that John Savino, his oldest daughter, Dolores, 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:08.080 she and her boyfriend had started a burglary ring of 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:11.160 their own. He's got competition, yeah exactly. And they were 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:13.600 operating under the guidance of John Savina. 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:15.120 Oh so they were Big John's crew. 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:17.640 They were Big John's crew. So you know, he's giving 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:19.560 them tips and he's like sending him out on these 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:24.600 little jobs. But sooner, yeah exactly. So Savino, though, he 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:28.400 finds out about Sealerno's burglary skills, these new blossoming skills. 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:31.920 So Savino starts giving him jobs and most of them 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:35.760 involves stealing safes, and so they would wet. They would Yeah, 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:38.280 they'd take the safe back to the Savino house, empty 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:40.520 him out, somehow pop them open, and then they buried 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:43.480 them in the backyard as a means of disposing of them. 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:46.960 Which I just keep thinking the future residence, Like, is 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:49.000 someone going to move into a house in Yonkers and 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:53.240 then want to put a pool in Saints in the ground? 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:53.800 Amazing? 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:58.160 So Savino he sees big things for Seleerno and his 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:01.880 criming arts. He knew just the thing to help that along. 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:08.120 Do you know what Bova is? These nuts? 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:11.480 Seriously, it's familiar. 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:18.960 I'm talking about a man named Frank Bova. 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:22.000 Thank you so you got me to I did. 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:25.520 Frank Bova, he told which every time I was typing this, 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:28.560 Frank Bova. 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:30.199 You're still read in the face. 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:35.560 So Frank Bova, these nuts told people that at one 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:39.040 time he was an army ranger who was tasked during 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:41.440 World War Two with stealing documents from the homes of 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:46.560 Nazi officers. He was like, it was super secret, totally legal. Total. 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:50.120 I snuck around and went in and I grabbed it 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:52.839 and was like you know, I'm out of here. I'm 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:57.480 a hero in us check me out. I'm a hero. 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:00.640 And he said that all these top secret missions had 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:03.160 trained him to become the best cat burglar both east 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:06.240 and west of the Mississippi, like I'm the best there 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:09.400 is now. Of course this was not true. No, he 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:12.080 was a cook in the army during the war. But 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:14.480 it was a good tale to tell Salerno, who was 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:17.720 oddly naive about hearing such a shaggy dog story the 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:20.760 origins of his burglary skills. But he did have skills. 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:26.720 For twenty years, he was one of the world's best burglars. Bova. 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:31.200 And you've never heard of him because he never got caught. Oh, 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:34.439 the police never knew about him. During his active criming years. 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:37.400 He was completely under the radar, like a good army ranger. 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:40.920 Yeah he wasn't mobbed up, but he was in the periphery. 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:41.160 Yeah. 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:45.240 Yeah, he'd kicked portions of his take for territory or 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:48.160 like tip offs. But time started to catch up with him. 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:51.520 He wasn't his nimble and spries before, and slowing down 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:54.480 would speed up the chance of getting caught. So he 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:57.440 kept an eye out for a protege and John Savino. 0:11:57.640 --> 0:12:03.520 He delivered with Peter Salerno. Bova's targets were generally wealthy. Uh, 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:06.080 he was a jewel thief. He wasn't just a petty 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:12.000 little thing. Bova trained Sealerno. He trained him how to dress. 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:13.920 Uh, how to be invisible but also clean. 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:16.800 Yeah, how to how to like train, how to how 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:19.439 to work out, increase your your masks. 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:21.000 To pull yourself up by just your. 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:23.959 Fingers tape, yeah, exactly like swim and all this other stuff. 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:27.400 So how to avoid the security and assorted pitfalls at 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:30.960 these mansions. And he wanted that for Seleerno, but for 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:34.640 a cut of course. Okay, So Bova had Selerno first 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:38.959 burgle homes in Scarsdale, New York, and other southern Westchester 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:42.480 municipalities just as a as a means to practice. The 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:45.360 first one was selected because when they drove by, they 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:48.000 saw that the mailbox was just stuffed with mail, so 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:53.200 they're obviously out of town. They didn't just like or 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:56.760 lazy like me, So they didn't just like park down 0:12:56.760 --> 0:12:58.800 the street and then sneak up. They saw that the 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:01.480 house backed onto a course, so they went around to 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:04.080 the country club and parked and then snuck across the 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:06.000 green at night because they're like, there aren't going to 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:08.040 be any golfers out. They're doing stuff that the car 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:11.239 is not suspicious because they're having like you know, get together. 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:13.240 And we used to do that to meet girls in 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:13.760 high school. 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:19.400 There you go, exactly, you were, Bova. So they climbed 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:21.280 up this balcony at the house and they used a 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:25.400 copper strip to override the window alarm upstairs, like change 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:30.360 the current, he explained to Salerno, like that, if you're 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:32.240 going to have a knife on you, it has to 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:34.480 like you're gonna need it to pop out the window frame, 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:36.679 but it can't be more than three inches because then 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:37.720 it's a weapon. 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:37.959 Right. 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:42.000 So once inside, Bova explained that they had to lock 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:44.320 the bedroom door as soon as they got in there, 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:46.640 or if there wasn't a lock, just like shoves up 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:49.200 up against it. Give you some time, and then always 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:51.920 start in the dressing room. That's that's your place. Don't 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:55.160 trash it. Whatever you do. You have to gently push 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:58.200 into the drawer of unmentionables to feel for something hard, 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:02.120 something yeah, box on whatever, Take the stuff, put it 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:04.880 in a pillowcase, drop that pillowcase out the window, and 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:07.840 then shimmy down the way you came in. Now, the 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:10.240 one problem is that when rich people go on vacation, 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:12.959 a lot of times they'd take their jewels with them, 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:14.800 like if they're going to go to like a fancy 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:15.680 you know whatever. 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:18.720 People fresh, Yeah and so. 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:20.360 But the job that they were on was just a 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:23.360 practice run. Now it was time for the real thing. 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:27.160 They hit up a huge mansion in Scarsdale. They pull 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:31.000 up driveway full of cars. They drove way down the 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:33.840 road and approached the house from the woods behind the house. 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:36.440 Wouldn't it be nuts to break into a house full 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:36.840 of people? 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:37.440 Yeah? 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:41.560 I mean they could see everyone inside and enjoying. Cool 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:44.840 cool man enjoying a lux dinner party. So Bova kept 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:47.120 watch as Sealerno went to the back of the house 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:49.760 and climbed up to a balcony off the master bedroom. 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:52.280 He worked just as he had in the test house. 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:55.000 So at first he found nothing, and then he stumbled 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:58.200 onto a hidden safe. Not hidden enough, I guess he 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:00.400 was able to extract a bunch of jewelry. He popped 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:03.880 it right there, Diamonds on diamonds on diamonds and cash. 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:06.840 This is a much bigger haul than anything he pulled 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:09.480 on his own down in Yonkers, so he took the loot. 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:12.760 He made us escape. Bova's still outside just sitting there 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:15.840 watching the swells have their dinner. Now then you know 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:19.720 they get out whatever. Meanwhile, Sealerno, he was growing sweet 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:24.520 on one of the twins, Lauria, ten years his junior 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:26.280 and a teen at this point. 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:30.360 Like teen, my impulses, Stone, you can't be like. 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:33.280 He bought her a car, but she just wasn't really 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:34.800 feeling it because she had a boyfriend. 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:36.600 Oh my god. 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:39.800 As you can guess, though, he won her over. He 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:42.720 took her whole family on vacation to Florida, spreading cash 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:43.520 around like crazy. 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:45.000 Yeah, he's a man competing with boys. 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:48.800 Well there's a problem, though, Sellerno. He's twenty five. He's 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:50.720 trying to woo a fifteen year old. But that's not 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:53.960 the problem. He was married and had four kids. Oh. 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:57.920 He and his wife got together when he was like seventeen, like. 0:15:57.960 --> 0:15:59.920 Fresh out of sing sing started early, but they. 0:15:59.840 --> 0:16:01.800 Had hadn't lived together in a while. They had this 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:05.000 really chaotic, violent relationship, the violence on both of their parts. 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:07.760 The kids were in foster care at one point, and 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:09.440 I think that's where they were when he took up 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:13.240 with Gloria. But either way, So, Gloria's parents less than 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:16.040 thrilled that their teenager is dating a married father of four. 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:17.760 This is the same guy who did not want to 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:21.640 end up like his father. Yeah, and he totally exceeded. 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:27.160 Yes, raced past him, raced right by. So Seleerno, he's like, 0:16:27.400 --> 0:16:30.280 I really want to get with Gloria. Gloria's parents not 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:32.040 so thrilled. So he's like, look, I'm. 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:33.080 Gary parents my boss. 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:36.520 Yeah, he's right, mobbed up, I mobbed up boss. He 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:39.440 Sellerno had bought a house with all this money. 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:40.920 He's been making money. 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:44.360 So he gave his wife the house and then got 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:47.400 a quickie divorce, and he and Gloria went to Maryland 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:51.160 and they eloped. And then the marriage age there was sixteen, 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:53.000 so she had just turned sixteen. 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:53.720 Good to go there. 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:55.880 No one knew about their secret marriage. And then a 0:16:55.960 --> 0:16:58.360 year later he bought her a four carrot diamond ring 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:01.960 and they had a huge Italian She was already pregnant. 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:02.720 When she was seventeen and pregnant. 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:06.040 Okay, and the family, you know, so his family's growing, 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:10.280 his criminal enterprises, everything's swelling, everything's swelling. Let's take a break. 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:13.080 When we come back, we'll follow Sellerno as his star 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:37.280 rises as a cat burglar. Hello Zaren, Hello Elizabeth, Hello, 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:39.520 so nice to see you. Peter Sellerno. 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:42.399 Yes, my guy, kind of I don't know. 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:45.560 You'll see. He was quickly becoming the world's greatest cat burglar, 0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:49.000 replacing his teacher Frank Bova. Say it both of these 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:51.560 my yeah, Bova, these nuts My. 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:55.520 Wait, yours mine mine? Okay, So I'm not going to 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:57.639 play along with your games making fun of me, Elizabeth. 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:03.560 Back in nineteen sixties, there was someone else calling Peter 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:07.080 Sellerno the world's greatest burglar. And this time someone said 0:18:07.080 --> 0:18:10.639 it while drunk and in public. And that's someone was 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:14.560 John Saviano's thieving daughter, Dolores, of the crime ring. 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:14.920 That she had. 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:17.919 So she got wasted at a nightclub one night and 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:21.119 said that she guess what, everybody, I'm paying everyone's tab 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:24.240 and then she slams ten thousand dollars in cash on 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:27.359 the bar. So she then announced that she got the 0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:30.119 money by working with quote, the best burglar in the world, 0:18:30.240 --> 0:18:33.120 Peter Salerno names names. 0:18:33.600 --> 0:18:35.359 She's de Niro's worst nightmare. 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:38.679 I think I think most people in the club just 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:41.840 roll their eyes and then ordered whatever was most expensive. 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:43.480 Except for the one person who'd be listening. 0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:44.119 The guitar player. 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:45.920 I see, there's always the one person. 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:49.040 I think that's Sirio Dominic Lttella, the guitar player. He 0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:49.720 was intrigued. 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:50.240 Of course. 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:52.720 He was a posh mama's boy. When he was in 0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:54.480 high school, he was in a band called the two 0:18:54.480 --> 0:18:58.399 plus Two's. They played with Tony Orlando and don Zaren 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:03.000 big time laugh at him. So Littella he fell in 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:06.119 with bad kids though, and unlike the Savino family, his 0:19:06.160 --> 0:19:09.439 parents weren't about it. But yet the parents were kind 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:12.040 of in the Savino orbit. But his mom was just 0:19:12.080 --> 0:19:15.720 like this crazy task master, like uber helicopter mom, like 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:16.399 she did everything. 0:19:16.600 --> 0:19:18.040 Were they trying to be good Americans? They didn't want 0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:20.159 to have like yo, I think these other Italian Americans 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:21.680 are making us look bad. 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:25.359 He was her special, precious baby, should never do anything wrong. 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:26.040 He's you know. 0:19:27.000 --> 0:19:29.560 So they told the parents told Littella that he had 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:32.399 to sign up for military service. So in nineteen sixty 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:35.159 three he enlisted in the Navy, and he did that 0:19:35.240 --> 0:19:37.920 to avoid the draft in Vietnam. He kind of jumped 0:19:37.960 --> 0:19:40.679 ahead of it when he got out of the service 0:19:40.720 --> 0:19:42.920 and needed a job, but he didn't feel like doing 0:19:43.000 --> 0:19:45.920 legitimate work. I mean, I know how that feels. So 0:19:46.160 --> 0:19:47.840 he fell back in with the bad boys. 0:19:48.119 --> 0:19:48.840 I know that feels. 0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:53.000 When he wasn't criming, he moonlighted as a guitar player 0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:56.440 at a nightclub, and that's where he heard Dolores Savino 0:19:56.560 --> 0:19:59.840 brag about working with Peter Salerno. He wanted to do that. 0:20:00.320 --> 0:20:01.400 I want to work with him. 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:04.120 Does he take resumes? I just show him a job 0:20:04.160 --> 0:20:04.560 I've done. 0:20:05.000 --> 0:20:08.240 I get well, so Sealerno. Meanwhile, he had moved the 0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:11.639 entire Savino family down to Florida. He bought John and 0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:14.439 his wife a restaurant at the Tangiers Resort and motel. 0:20:14.880 --> 0:20:17.719 They're living the good life. Sealerno was down there too, 0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:20.080 he had a business. Gloria is down their whole family. 0:20:20.160 --> 0:20:22.240 He's like, bounce into Cuba at this point. Maybe no, 0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:24.720 it's sixty three. I've been waiting fie your family. 0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:27.840 He's doing so as luck would have it. Lttella's family. 0:20:28.320 --> 0:20:30.520 Like I said in the Savino Orbit, they're friends with 0:20:30.560 --> 0:20:33.320 the Savinos. The Savinos are feeling like there aren't a 0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:35.840 whole lot of Italian Americans down here right now that 0:20:35.960 --> 0:20:38.399 I know, and we're feeling a little lost. So they 0:20:38.440 --> 0:20:41.399 started inviting friends from back home to come and stay. 0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:45.680 One of them, the Lttella family, come down. Okay, Fate 0:20:45.760 --> 0:20:48.800 takes over because Latella, now, oh, I heard that Peter 0:20:49.440 --> 0:20:52.800 Sellerno is like the world's best burglar. He's right here. 0:20:53.440 --> 0:20:56.800 Lttella tracks him down, begs to be taught the ways 0:20:56.920 --> 0:20:58.160 of a burglary ninja. 0:20:58.320 --> 0:20:58.679 Please. 0:21:00.520 --> 0:21:04.520 He's working as Sealerno's accomplice logistics man lookout. But this 0:21:04.560 --> 0:21:08.560 was after a rocky start. At his first heist with Sealerno, 0:21:08.800 --> 0:21:12.960 Littella pooped his pants literally like a lot. Oh so 0:21:13.080 --> 0:21:15.000 much so that he had to wipe himself on the 0:21:15.080 --> 0:21:18.880 luxurious drapes in the homes dining room. It was so bad. 0:21:19.600 --> 0:21:21.760 Smell was terrible, it was everywhere. 0:21:21.760 --> 0:21:22.399 Was it nerves? 0:21:22.440 --> 0:21:23.120 It was nerves? 0:21:23.160 --> 0:21:25.240 Oh my god, he's the worst. He was not having 0:21:25.280 --> 0:21:28.840 a second job on my crew, that is it. I'm sorry. 0:21:29.160 --> 0:21:31.400 In the early days of their career together, he would 0:21:31.560 --> 0:21:35.200 often get so nervous that he had to poop. No, 0:21:36.800 --> 0:21:39.240 he was always the lookout because you tell him, like 0:21:39.320 --> 0:21:40.040 you wait out here. 0:21:39.920 --> 0:21:41.920 In the bush. The whole car. Oh, the lookout. Okay, 0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:43.719 not in a car, stuck in the bushes. 0:21:43.800 --> 0:21:48.879 Letter rip. They gave him a nickname Diarrhea Don, and 0:21:48.920 --> 0:21:51.439 they kept it for his whole Everyone called him Diarrhea Do. 0:21:51.920 --> 0:21:53.120 But he was able to recover. 0:21:53.280 --> 0:21:56.320 You know, he worked through recovered from diarrhea. 0:21:56.400 --> 0:21:58.960 Wiping your poop on the on the drapes. 0:21:59.119 --> 0:22:01.160 Do you think he did like the towel move like baking, 0:22:01.840 --> 0:22:03.480 drying your back, but through the legs. 0:22:03.680 --> 0:22:06.399 I have all these these descriptors. I'm not going to 0:22:06.440 --> 0:22:10.360 say anything, so anyway, Lttella. 0:22:10.200 --> 0:22:12.040 The heavy side of the soft side, you know, there's 0:22:12.080 --> 0:22:15.399 like there's like the inner sheet. I think he's I 0:22:15.400 --> 0:22:17.200 didn't even for the thicker one. He wanted a maximum 0:22:17.280 --> 0:22:18.920 coverage and absorbancy. 0:22:19.760 --> 0:22:23.479 Just doing a lot of scooping. So Lttella, he's not 0:22:23.560 --> 0:22:26.560 only you know, covered in his own feces. He's also 0:22:26.720 --> 0:22:32.640 sweet on a Savino daughter one lucky girl Gloria's twins, Sondra. Now, 0:22:32.760 --> 0:22:35.080 like where Gloria was like the good girl, Sondra is 0:22:35.160 --> 0:22:38.760 kind of like a rare Yeah, maybe she likes the poop. 0:22:39.800 --> 0:22:43.040 She wasn't she wasn't interested, she wasn't interested in Diarrhia 0:22:43.119 --> 0:22:45.920 Don No, she had a creepy boyfriend and her parents 0:22:45.960 --> 0:22:47.919 were totally over him. So they're like, let's set her 0:22:48.000 --> 0:22:49.360 up with Diaria don. 0:22:49.200 --> 0:22:50.879 No, he's a nice boy. Why do they not like 0:22:50.920 --> 0:22:51.320 this girl? 0:22:52.040 --> 0:22:56.680 So Littella. He got the gig with Selearno basically because 0:22:57.240 --> 0:23:00.199 the Savino family was like, this guy looks good. He 0:23:00.280 --> 0:23:02.840 obeys his mom, like they don't really know about the poopins, 0:23:03.280 --> 0:23:05.399 and so they're like, let's get him a gig with 0:23:05.520 --> 0:23:09.040 Seleerno being the you know, the high skuy get some cash, 0:23:09.040 --> 0:23:12.199 and then that's wooing money. The rest is history. So 0:23:12.840 --> 0:23:15.959 they wind up together. Oh my god, Gloria. 0:23:16.040 --> 0:23:17.960 How did your mom meet your dad? Story? 0:23:18.720 --> 0:23:25.399 Well, actually, there's he dressed terribly here. He wore like 0:23:25.520 --> 0:23:30.000 shorts and sandals all the time. Don doesn't wear shorts, hello, 0:23:30.400 --> 0:23:32.320 And so it was Sandra who was like, no, I'm 0:23:32.359 --> 0:23:34.280 sorry that don doesn't wear shorts and you need actual 0:23:34.440 --> 0:23:36.439 She just taught him to dress because the mom was 0:23:36.720 --> 0:23:42.000 buying all this basically, So, Gloria, she's leaping through a 0:23:42.080 --> 0:23:44.200 copy of Town and Country magazine one day at a 0:23:44.240 --> 0:23:46.639 store and she notices that there are a lot of 0:23:46.640 --> 0:23:50.360 photos of like phenomenal homes and stories about upcoming parties. 0:23:50.840 --> 0:23:53.800 So she takes the magazine to her husband, Peter Salerno, 0:23:54.119 --> 0:23:55.600 and it's like, you know what, this is a great 0:23:55.600 --> 0:23:58.480 source of targets, just like a look book right here. 0:23:58.840 --> 0:24:01.960 So Sealerno and Tella they stopped finding homes to rob, 0:24:02.000 --> 0:24:05.920 either by like getting mob tips or just driving around neighborhoods. Instead, 0:24:06.320 --> 0:24:09.840 they prepared by creating a leads list. By using Forbes 0:24:09.920 --> 0:24:13.200 Magazine's list of the wealthiest people in America, they found 0:24:13.280 --> 0:24:16.920 addresses in Who's Who in America. They studied photo spreads 0:24:16.920 --> 0:24:20.120 and architectural digests and town and country, and then they 0:24:20.160 --> 0:24:23.439 went through all the society columns and newspapers for announcements 0:24:23.480 --> 0:24:25.760 of like who's in town and who's hosting big parties. 0:24:26.000 --> 0:24:29.760 Damn, ABC always be crimeing smart coffee is for closers. 0:24:29.840 --> 0:24:31.920 This is amazing. You got the good lead shit. 0:24:32.080 --> 0:24:34.720 And here's the thing, like people loved to show off 0:24:34.760 --> 0:24:38.399 their obscene wealthy and Seleerno and Lotella took advantage of that. 0:24:39.200 --> 0:24:40.880 You know, they're putting it out there in the public. 0:24:40.920 --> 0:24:44.800 All this information and the mansions were enormous. So Bova's 0:24:44.840 --> 0:24:47.560 technique of sneaking in while the parties were going on 0:24:47.840 --> 0:24:51.040 was perfect. So like guests, they get summoned by these 0:24:51.080 --> 0:24:54.440 butlers and these maids to go and have these absolutely 0:24:54.520 --> 0:24:58.000 huge dinners, multiple course dinners that could take hours and 0:24:58.080 --> 0:25:01.560 hours in this like you know, way situated dining room 0:25:01.600 --> 0:25:03.439 so they can see out to like maybe part of 0:25:03.440 --> 0:25:06.080 the yard, but it's it's not, you know, noisy for 0:25:06.119 --> 0:25:08.639 the rest of the house. It would have been rude 0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:10.439 to get up and leave the table. You don't, you know, 0:25:10.640 --> 0:25:13.000 you don't get up and wander around or anything, get bored. 0:25:13.800 --> 0:25:15.920 And the staff, the staff is super busy in the 0:25:16.000 --> 0:25:17.320 kitchen and the dining room. 0:25:17.560 --> 0:25:20.119 Can you imagine if you were like one of these guests, Elizabeth, 0:25:20.119 --> 0:25:21.960 and you're like, I am kind of nosy. Imagine if 0:25:22.000 --> 0:25:23.440 you excuse yourself to go the bathroom. You go to 0:25:23.520 --> 0:25:26.159 these second story upstairs bathroom. You're going down, you're feeling 0:25:26.200 --> 0:25:28.240 patting along the carpetage walk, and all of a sudden, 0:25:28.280 --> 0:25:30.240 you hear a noise and this guy pokes out. He's 0:25:30.240 --> 0:25:34.960 got on a mask and like a pillowcase diary. Don 0:25:35.000 --> 0:25:37.199 You're like, I've heard about you, no but honestly, like 0:25:37.440 --> 0:25:39.920 you had that moment. I can't imagine as a criminal 0:25:39.920 --> 0:25:42.159 thinking that that would be it's a good move, but 0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:43.320 it really limits. 0:25:43.359 --> 0:25:46.520 There are a couple of years random they're upstairs in 0:25:46.560 --> 0:25:49.679 these mansions. No one's going upstairs, Like if you have 0:25:49.720 --> 0:25:53.439 to step away to powder room, it's notstairs. So the 0:25:53.480 --> 0:25:55.640 rest of the house is like completely deserted. 0:25:55.920 --> 0:25:56.280 I get it. 0:25:56.680 --> 0:25:59.720 And so also when everyone's home, no alarms are set. 0:26:00.200 --> 0:26:04.480 Oh yeah, genius. Isn't that incredible? And a lot of 0:26:04.480 --> 0:26:06.080 the things I read too, are that some of the 0:26:06.119 --> 0:26:09.680 older homes like they didn't have air conditioning the way 0:26:09.680 --> 0:26:13.920 that we did, so we leave the windows open air thing. Yeah. 0:26:13.960 --> 0:26:17.760 So according to Peter Sellerno quote, they never expect you. 0:26:17.800 --> 0:26:19.840 They don't expect anybody to be in there with them 0:26:19.880 --> 0:26:20.840 while they're having dinner. 0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:22.919 Yeah, they're so busy and engage. 0:26:23.040 --> 0:26:27.160 Yeah. And then Ltela talking about Seleerno quote, it's remarkable, 0:26:27.359 --> 0:26:29.879 but he had this sixth sense of finding it. And 0:26:29.960 --> 0:26:32.760 you're talking about a big master suite with dressing areas, 0:26:32.800 --> 0:26:35.600 you know, closet areas. If it was there, he found it. 0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:38.359 And then Sealerno backs it up. A lot of them 0:26:38.359 --> 0:26:40.440 didn't even know it was gone till the following day. 0:26:41.240 --> 0:26:44.959 So it's just in and out they considered themselves gentlemen, thieves. 0:26:45.400 --> 0:26:49.400 They never carried guns, no weapons, they were never violent, 0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:52.080 and if they had to, they'd leave empty handed. 0:26:52.200 --> 0:26:54.160 Yeah you gotta yeah, cut and run. 0:26:54.359 --> 0:26:58.240 So there were this rash of burglaries in both New 0:26:58.320 --> 0:27:00.360 York and like the Tony areas. 0:27:00.440 --> 0:27:02.200 Connecticut, upstate in Connecticut. 0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:07.280 Yeah, and then like Long Long Island, uh that way, yeah, 0:27:07.920 --> 0:27:11.080 and then it's Florida. So they're hitting both like they 0:27:11.080 --> 0:27:13.840 go for the winter, they go down winter in Florida. Precisely. 0:27:15.320 --> 0:27:17.520 The cops are catching on, they see the pattern. Some 0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:21.320 are calling them the fat Cat burglars, but they eventually 0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:25.000 became known as the dinner set gang. So they targeted 0:27:25.000 --> 0:27:27.360 the dinner set, the wealthy folks. You know, their schedules 0:27:27.359 --> 0:27:30.800 revolve around social events, not work. The dinner set. 0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:34.359 Yeah. So although I kind of like the fact a lot. 0:27:35.320 --> 0:27:38.880 So one day, sealernosaw ad for an inflatable raft. 0:27:39.160 --> 0:27:42.040 Like a zodiac with the out the harder kind. 0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:43.520 Yeah yeah, not like a pool float. 0:27:43.560 --> 0:27:45.040 Yeah, it was. 0:27:45.080 --> 0:27:46.119 It was amazing, guys. 0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:49.919 It was a unicorn like the plastic candle paddles. They 0:27:50.000 --> 0:27:51.320 come apart with too much water. 0:27:53.840 --> 0:27:56.760 No zodiac, and so he knew it would be the 0:27:56.760 --> 0:27:59.840 perfect way to get at beach front properties because like 0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:03.080 Palm Beach, Long Island sounds Gold Coast. Those are the 0:28:03.119 --> 0:28:05.360 homes of some of the richest people in America, oh 0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:09.480 sometimes in the world, and they were pretty much inaccessible. 0:28:08.840 --> 0:28:10.000 On unless you get from the water. 0:28:10.040 --> 0:28:13.080 It's huge fences, long driveways, but not anything at the 0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:15.200 water line. So if you come in and out on 0:28:15.240 --> 0:28:17.560 the water, there are also no roadblocks, nothing. 0:28:18.520 --> 0:28:20.840 The thing is the sheriff's Yeah, sriff. 0:28:20.600 --> 0:28:24.760 Boats exactly, so Sealerno and Ltella. They followed their targets 0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:27.080 with the seasons. Like I said, north to Connecticut and 0:28:27.119 --> 0:28:30.080 New York, Palm Beach for the social season, and they 0:28:30.160 --> 0:28:34.360 hit all the big names. DeWitt Wallace, founder of Readers Digest, 0:28:35.240 --> 0:28:37.560 and from that family they got one hundred and sixty 0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:39.920 eight thousand dollars worth of jewels while Wallace and his 0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:44.560 wife were finishing their dessert. The heiress to the Flagler 0:28:44.680 --> 0:28:48.000 Railroad fortune five million dollars stolen while she hosted a 0:28:48.160 --> 0:28:51.160 black tie dinner nice in and out. From nineteen seventy 0:28:51.200 --> 0:28:53.200 one to nineteen seventy two, they hit more than a 0:28:53.240 --> 0:28:57.760 dozen homes on the Gold coast. Yeah, Zarin close you 0:28:57.760 --> 0:29:02.000 ass Oh yes, I want you to picture it. It's 0:29:02.120 --> 0:29:06.080 January nineteen seventy three. You are inside a large estate 0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:09.360 north of Palm Beach, Florida, on Juno Beach. There is 0:29:09.440 --> 0:29:11.480 but one road in and out from the mansion to 0:29:11.520 --> 0:29:14.640 the rest of the world. You are a spera fitted 0:29:14.680 --> 0:29:18.480 sheet belonging to Sir John Rupert Hunt Thoron and his wife, 0:29:18.560 --> 0:29:22.120 Lady Thoron, also known as Esther Driver DuPont, heir to 0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:23.120 the DuPont fortune. 0:29:23.200 --> 0:29:24.880 Oh wow, these are some rich. 0:29:24.760 --> 0:29:29.400 Folks, and you are a very expensive fitted sheet. You 0:29:29.440 --> 0:29:32.680 are a spa to be exact, the finest pure Egyptian 0:29:32.720 --> 0:29:36.240 cotton made in Italy, some of the most expensive bedding 0:29:36.240 --> 0:29:39.040 in the world. You aren't used much on the bed, 0:29:39.200 --> 0:29:41.720 but that doesn't mean you aren't doing a job. You 0:29:41.760 --> 0:29:44.560 are well laundered and you sit in the linen closet. 0:29:45.280 --> 0:29:48.640 You are wrapped tightly around a leather traveling case belonging 0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:52.240 to Lady Thoron. The case is covered in all manner 0:29:52.280 --> 0:29:55.680 of custom stamps and stickers from far flung exotic locales. 0:29:56.240 --> 0:29:58.960 As you sit in the linen closet, a lavender sachet 0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:01.760 tucked behind you. You hear the staff ring the dinner 0:30:01.760 --> 0:30:05.280 bell of Sir and Lady Thorn. You are a magical 0:30:05.280 --> 0:30:08.200 sheet that can hear and see, and taste and smell. 0:30:08.600 --> 0:30:11.000 You are a marvel. You are Italian. 0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:11.800 You dare right. 0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:14.239 After a while, you also hear the sound of an 0:30:14.240 --> 0:30:18.120 outboard motor out on hoby sound. It draws closer, but 0:30:18.200 --> 0:30:20.480 this is nothing new. Plenty of people toodle up and 0:30:20.560 --> 0:30:23.680 down the sound even after dark. You have an incredible 0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:27.120 bat like hearing, though I mean the sheets are expensive 0:30:27.120 --> 0:30:29.520 for a reason. You hear the sound of two people 0:30:29.560 --> 0:30:31.720 alighting from the boat you heard and making their way 0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:34.920 up the beach to the house. A moment later, you 0:30:34.960 --> 0:30:37.239 hear a quiet rattle at the French doors leading from 0:30:37.280 --> 0:30:40.360 the bedroom to a balcony, A little pop, and then 0:30:40.400 --> 0:30:43.080 you hear the wind outside. Someone has made it into 0:30:43.080 --> 0:30:47.200 the house. You hear footsteps approaching. Your cotton heart beats faster. 0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:50.160 The darkness of the linen closet is pierced with light. 0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:52.680 As the doors to the closet swing open, you can 0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:56.120 hear rustling. Someone is pawing their way through the either bedding. 0:30:56.600 --> 0:30:59.120 Please please, please please leave. You think I have a 0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:03.480 job to do. Then you feel it, hands, gloved hands. 0:31:04.080 --> 0:31:07.600 You are petrified as the hands squeeze you tight, violating 0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:11.080 your smooth fabric. The hands feel the leather, valise and 0:31:11.160 --> 0:31:14.720 freeze you let out a silent screen. You can see, 0:31:14.760 --> 0:31:17.040 you can hear, you can smell, but you can't speak. 0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:18.200 You are mute. 0:31:18.400 --> 0:31:21.880 As the hands unfold you're carefully tucked corners. Do you 0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:25.080 know how hard that was to achieve? Your charge is 0:31:25.120 --> 0:31:28.560 now exposed. The hands rub over the exterior of the case, 0:31:28.840 --> 0:31:32.040 taking in the stamps and stickers and fine leather. The 0:31:32.120 --> 0:31:35.280 hands open the case. You hear a little gasp. The 0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:37.840 owner of the hands is awestruck by what he sees. 0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:41.360 In the case are twenty five carrot and twenty two 0:31:41.400 --> 0:31:45.640 carrot sapphires, a five carrot marquise diamond, and a flawless 0:31:45.880 --> 0:31:50.320 seventeen carrot natural pink pear shaped diamond worth one point 0:31:50.360 --> 0:31:53.800 eight million dollars. That's almost twelve point five million dollars today. 0:31:54.760 --> 0:31:57.280 The hands set down the case and make a half 0:31:57.320 --> 0:32:00.160 hearted effort to fold you back up. Then, just as 0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:02.320 quickly as the two men arrived, they dash away into 0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:06.120 the night. Salerno and Littella made off with twelve million 0:32:06.160 --> 0:32:09.000 dollars of jewels that night in total, which is almost 0:32:09.040 --> 0:32:13.880 eighty three million dollars today. Wow, the DuPont's running deep 0:32:13.880 --> 0:32:16.720 with jewels. So the two of them go to New 0:32:16.800 --> 0:32:18.280 York to celebrate with their fence. 0:32:18.400 --> 0:32:20.440 Who's their fence, Elizabeth? 0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:24.200 In an interview with sixty Minutes, Salerno himself routed out 0:32:24.200 --> 0:32:27.120 the fence. Quote a guy named Wally Gans who was 0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:31.680 at the forty side. Who is It's the forty seventh 0:32:31.680 --> 0:32:34.400 Street Diamond Exchange, which is the biggest exchange in the world. 0:32:34.480 --> 0:32:36.720 To me, I mean, you know, I've been under the ground. 0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:38.640 They had their own vaults, they don't go to banks. 0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:40.600 They got more diamonds and cash there than God. 0:32:40.840 --> 0:32:42.760 Please tell me he was dead at the time. 0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:47.880 Yes, So, Salerno and Littella, they were paid ten cents 0:32:47.880 --> 0:32:50.160 on the dollar, and that was the going rate for 0:32:50.200 --> 0:32:53.000 stolen gems. Plus they had to kick up to the 0:32:53.040 --> 0:32:56.560 mafia on top of that. Plus Gans didn't always give 0:32:56.600 --> 0:32:57.680 them fair value. 0:32:57.360 --> 0:32:59.400 For the hot live of course not, but they still 0:32:59.400 --> 0:33:02.320 did quite all. It's all free money to him, exactly. 0:33:02.760 --> 0:33:06.200 So after the DuPont and Flagler jobs, Gans and his 0:33:06.240 --> 0:33:09.720 wife retired to North Miami, beach Gans was a suspect 0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:13.000 in all manner of illegal activities, but he was never indicted. 0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:14.800 No look at him slippery. 0:33:14.840 --> 0:33:20.160 I know. So Sealerno and a Latella flush with cash. Soandra, 0:33:20.840 --> 0:33:24.680 she said, the Lttella's wife bag's full suitcase is full. 0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:27.360 We would put it in envelopes of twenty thousand dollars 0:33:27.400 --> 0:33:29.640 at a time, and I can remember having to go 0:33:29.680 --> 0:33:32.120 to the safe deposit box and changing it because I 0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:34.760 couldn't put another envelope in it, like they had to 0:33:34.840 --> 0:33:35.480 keep upgrading. 0:33:35.840 --> 0:33:37.200 I were using it as like a paper weight. I 0:33:37.240 --> 0:33:39.120 was like reading something. I just put money on top. 0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:42.640 Well, no, listen, Gloria. She had a four hundred dollars 0:33:42.640 --> 0:33:45.640 a week allowance. She said she used to collect random 0:33:45.680 --> 0:33:47.880 cash that she found in her husband's pockets and she 0:33:47.880 --> 0:33:49.840 would then put it all in a bank account. And 0:33:49.880 --> 0:33:52.640 then once Selerno he needed cash to hire a lawyer, 0:33:53.120 --> 0:33:55.440 so she went to the bank and withdrew everything that 0:33:55.560 --> 0:33:57.440 she that she had found over the years, brought it 0:33:57.480 --> 0:33:59.400 home in an envelope. They dump it out on the 0:33:59.440 --> 0:34:01.600 dining room, able to count it. Two hundred and fifty 0:34:01.640 --> 0:34:02.320 thousand dollars. 0:34:02.520 --> 0:34:04.960 Oh wow, I mean this is they had pocket change 0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:06.520 that was literal pocket. 0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:09.759 Change, chump change. So an uncle of his like to 0:34:09.880 --> 0:34:12.840 joke quote, they're in the iron and steel business. She 0:34:13.000 --> 0:34:17.480 irons and he steals, hey, hey, please tip my waitress. 0:34:17.560 --> 0:34:19.560 And with that we'll take a break and then I'll 0:34:19.640 --> 0:34:21.600 let you know how things are going in the steel business. 0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:46.000 Welcome, hey Elizabeth, Hello Elizabeth. 0:34:45.760 --> 0:34:52.080 Ads so good. I want more. Welcome to Dateline nineteen 0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:52.680 seventy five. 0:34:52.719 --> 0:34:54.480 Oh I brought the wrong. 0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:58.799 Pants seventy five. Seleerno got arrested and convicted on a 0:34:58.840 --> 0:35:01.800 federal drugs charge. Oh, he got set up by a 0:35:01.920 --> 0:35:05.640 rival burglar and who wanted in on his turf. That's 0:35:05.680 --> 0:35:07.560 one of the stories that you hear. So he served 0:35:07.560 --> 0:35:09.880 time at the Atlanta Federal Correctional Facility. 0:35:10.080 --> 0:35:11.640 Not a place to do, no time. 0:35:11.760 --> 0:35:13.880 And he but like, here's the thing. He agreed to 0:35:13.920 --> 0:35:16.640 cooperate with the Feds in exchange for a shorter sentence. 0:35:16.680 --> 0:35:18.200 He's like, this is not good. I want out of here. 0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:18.640 What do you want? 0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:19.440 Yeah, who do you want? 0:35:19.440 --> 0:35:21.160 I'll tell you anything, because remember he's in the mob 0:35:21.280 --> 0:35:22.319 orbit but he's not made. 0:35:22.400 --> 0:35:25.120 Yeah, he's not America. He has no vows of silence. 0:35:25.280 --> 0:35:29.319 Nope, so nineteen eighty he testified against a mob underboss 0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:33.759 on Yellow Delacroce. He stated that he was with mobsters 0:35:33.800 --> 0:35:36.600 in Lonzo's restaurant in New York Cities, Little Italy, and 0:35:36.640 --> 0:35:39.520 he heard Delacroce order a hit on a guy who 0:35:39.600 --> 0:35:41.759 was later found dead in a parking lot. So he 0:35:41.840 --> 0:35:44.799 was a witness to this order. In exchange for his testimony, 0:35:44.840 --> 0:35:46.680 he and his family went into witness protection. 0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:47.399 That's all it took. 0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:50.160 Round all took. He needed it, dude, Dela Croce put 0:35:50.239 --> 0:35:52.120 a price on his head of one hundred thousand dollars. 0:35:52.320 --> 0:35:54.200 He was a mob boss, mob boss then he wasn't 0:35:54.239 --> 0:35:55.840 like he said, he was an underboss, but he actually 0:35:55.840 --> 0:35:56.319 had real power. 0:35:56.480 --> 0:36:01.160 He had power. Yeah. And so Peter Salerno's witsect name 0:36:01.480 --> 0:36:06.320 is amazing, by the way, Pierre John Carden really Yeah, 0:36:06.360 --> 0:36:09.080 Pierre Cardan the little John off. 0:36:09.760 --> 0:36:11.440 In Macy's, and they would kind of come up with 0:36:11.480 --> 0:36:15.160 a name like Pierre what's your middle name? John John Carden. 0:36:16.000 --> 0:36:18.560 So he was getting income from the Feds until he 0:36:18.560 --> 0:36:21.480 could get himself established, but he never really like got 0:36:21.560 --> 0:36:26.560 him self established. So but Sealerno and Ltella, as well 0:36:26.560 --> 0:36:28.560 as their families, they got new names, and then they 0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:31.920 spent the next eight years living in Washington, Minnesota, Oregon. 0:36:31.960 --> 0:36:36.040 They moved around a bit. While in protection, Selerno worked 0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:39.280 on a gym invention that he was calling the Mighty Bender. 0:36:40.400 --> 0:36:42.080 And it doesn't look like anything ever came of that. 0:36:42.120 --> 0:36:44.760 I tried to find it. That's a crime. There's my crime. 0:36:44.920 --> 0:36:45.360 Boom. 0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:48.879 Yeah, in eighty five, the government money ran out and the. 0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:50.880 Family how does that work? Do you know how the 0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:52.719 witness protection? Like do they give you, like, we'll give 0:36:52.719 --> 0:36:54.399 you ten years worth of money or what. 0:36:54.400 --> 0:36:56.160 I understand is that they'll get Yeah, they'll give you 0:36:56.200 --> 0:36:58.799 ten years or like if you can start generating enough money, 0:36:58.840 --> 0:37:00.200 like if you get a job and do that kind 0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:02.720 of stuff, then you know it tapers off or whatever. 0:37:02.800 --> 0:37:05.239 But there is like a hard deadline and it looks 0:37:05.239 --> 0:37:07.680 like it's five years of like get a job or 0:37:07.840 --> 0:37:10.280 we cut you off. And so then they just start 0:37:10.280 --> 0:37:12.400 moving from hotel to hotel because they don't have this 0:37:12.520 --> 0:37:16.120 solid income. Gloria, she didn't miss the jewels and the 0:37:16.160 --> 0:37:19.640 luxury cars. She missed like the simple days of Oregon. 0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:23.200 She was a girl Scout troop mom and like way 0:37:23.239 --> 0:37:26.080 all up in the PTA's all about it my drama. 0:37:26.280 --> 0:37:31.120 Salerno was a baseball coach. Here's my baseball coach, peerre Carden. 0:37:32.520 --> 0:37:36.120 How do you do? Who has like the coach? And 0:37:36.160 --> 0:37:38.520 he's got like a thick New York Italian American accent. 0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:41.239 They hung out at the library. The whole family went 0:37:41.239 --> 0:37:43.000 to the library all the time. Silerno did a little 0:37:43.000 --> 0:37:45.960 gem research there, but you know, as a treat. So 0:37:46.200 --> 0:37:48.719 when they were in Minnesota, they learned about the Pillsbury 0:37:48.800 --> 0:37:52.440 Mansion in Minneapolis, which has since been torn down. 0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:53.120 I understand. 0:37:53.160 --> 0:37:57.000 Yeah, and they hit it successfully under the watch of 0:37:57.000 --> 0:38:00.080 the US Marshall Service. So he does he robs the 0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:03.000 Pillsbury mansiones while in witness protection. 0:38:02.840 --> 0:38:06.360 From his bosses, the US government. Yes, he was hitting 0:38:06.400 --> 0:38:07.399 his boss. I like this. 0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:11.880 Eighty six, Seleerno got busted for attempted burglary in Hollywood, Florida. 0:38:12.400 --> 0:38:15.600 The homeowner's son hits Seleerno over the head with a trophy. 0:38:16.000 --> 0:38:19.480 Oh and then he got convicted and sentenced to twelve years. 0:38:19.560 --> 0:38:22.360 These are the surprises I'm talking about in home at burglaries, 0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:25.040 getting hit in the head with the trophy. 0:38:25.120 --> 0:38:26.160 He's just all not on my. 0:38:26.120 --> 0:38:29.759 Watch, Yeah, exactly. Once again, teenagers always try me. I 0:38:29.800 --> 0:38:31.319 am not the one I've been waiting for this. 0:38:31.400 --> 0:38:36.680 I want this reason to dreaming of that. That's totally 0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:38.239 like you know when kids are like, I'll fight him, 0:38:38.239 --> 0:38:41.279 and I'll exactly I hit him with the trophy to me, 0:38:41.480 --> 0:38:42.040 I told Jim. 0:38:42.280 --> 0:38:42.480 Yeah. 0:38:43.120 --> 0:38:46.239 So, but here's the thing, Seleerno. He gets released in 0:38:46.320 --> 0:38:50.120 order to help law enforcement because agents told the judge 0:38:50.120 --> 0:38:53.040 that he was more helpful to them outside than inside. 0:38:53.160 --> 0:38:53.640 Yeah. 0:38:53.760 --> 0:38:57.520 So, in uh January of nineteen eighty eight, he gets 0:38:57.520 --> 0:39:00.239 caught again, this time tumbling over a wall in his 0:39:00.320 --> 0:39:04.360 subdivision in Boca Raton where there had already been two robberies. Like, 0:39:04.640 --> 0:39:05.600 how far has he fallen? 0:39:05.680 --> 0:39:07.239 He's now like an old cat where he can't make 0:39:07.280 --> 0:39:09.520 the same job, get a little clumsy. 0:39:09.640 --> 0:39:13.960 Yeah, to like a Boca Raton subdivision, subdivision. 0:39:14.000 --> 0:39:17.160 That's so believable. And he was nothing of offense subvision 0:39:17.280 --> 0:39:17.879 but for the thief. 0:39:17.960 --> 0:39:19.799 Yeah, he was with his wife and his sister in law, 0:39:19.920 --> 0:39:22.520 and it didn't clarify. I don't know if that was Sandra, 0:39:22.680 --> 0:39:25.640 if it was Lttella's wife, or it was Dolores. Oh, 0:39:25.680 --> 0:39:28.160 that's another sister in law. Anyway, his wife was there. 0:39:28.200 --> 0:39:31.160 One of the sisters in law, and then another dude. 0:39:31.239 --> 0:39:33.040 He was wearing a ski mask and he had a 0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:35.960 stolen nine millimeters semi automatic gun on him, which is 0:39:36.040 --> 0:39:39.279 very out of care rules. Yeah, and he was ordered 0:39:39.320 --> 0:39:41.600 to continue that twelve year sentence that they had gotten 0:39:41.640 --> 0:39:44.400 him out of. An agent said to the judge, quote, 0:39:44.520 --> 0:39:48.080 he violated our trust and he violated your trust. And 0:39:48.160 --> 0:39:50.960 Salerno said, I have no guilt. I have nothing to hide. 0:39:51.000 --> 0:39:52.840 I did not disgrace this court and I did not 0:39:52.920 --> 0:39:53.480 disgrace you. 0:39:54.560 --> 0:39:56.360 Okay, dude, I don't think you get to decide that. 0:39:56.880 --> 0:39:58.840 Probably no offense. I mean it's a great theory. 0:39:59.080 --> 0:40:01.560 Salerno is a term Steve Cole. He said that it 0:40:01.600 --> 0:40:06.640 was Sealerno's winning personality, this likable personality that was helping 0:40:06.680 --> 0:40:09.839 him infiltrate other crime rings that were not affiliated with them. 0:40:10.440 --> 0:40:13.319 And so apparently he helped out with a narcotics investigation 0:40:13.440 --> 0:40:16.840 that spanned South Florida, Vegas, DC in New York. His 0:40:16.880 --> 0:40:20.840 attorney said, quote, these individuals will welcome him with open arms. 0:40:21.520 --> 0:40:23.520 So it was like, yeah, you know, it takes one 0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:25.720 in no one. So when Seleerno got out of jail, 0:40:26.160 --> 0:40:28.840 he learned that Gloria had been diagnosed with breast cancer 0:40:28.920 --> 0:40:32.160 and had no health insurance, and he needed money, so 0:40:32.239 --> 0:40:34.600 he and Lttella headed north in the winter of nineteen 0:40:34.680 --> 0:40:38.040 ninety one to kick off the mother of all crimesprees 0:40:38.360 --> 0:40:40.160 for real. Yeah, because they're doing it for real now. 0:40:41.000 --> 0:40:42.600 Yeah. Now they need the money desperately. 0:40:42.680 --> 0:40:44.640 Yeah. One of the first homes they'd hit was one 0:40:44.680 --> 0:40:47.879 they'd hit decades prior. The same people still lived there. 0:40:48.400 --> 0:40:49.560 I love the detective. 0:40:49.600 --> 0:40:52.560 Billy Adams sent out a bulletin alerting police that the 0:40:52.600 --> 0:40:53.879 Dinner Set gang was back. 0:40:53.920 --> 0:40:54.960 Baby. 0:40:55.960 --> 0:40:58.960 This is what Adam said, quote everything was identical except 0:40:59.000 --> 0:41:02.600 the date on the police. It was unbelievable. Same thing. 0:41:02.640 --> 0:41:04.480 As long as you don't do violence, cops. Really, this 0:41:04.520 --> 0:41:05.480 is a fun little games. 0:41:05.719 --> 0:41:08.400 Florno explains it. He said, quote. I was just obsessed. 0:41:08.480 --> 0:41:10.480 I wasn't going to let her die because of money. 0:41:10.640 --> 0:41:14.359 For the lack of money. That money saved her life Perlatella. 0:41:14.520 --> 0:41:14.800 Quote. 0:41:14.840 --> 0:41:17.120 We broke our rules, you know, not knowing your target, 0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:19.680 not knowing where you're going, and knowing your escape. Working 0:41:19.719 --> 0:41:24.160 in the winter, especially in the snow. They're men on 0:41:24.160 --> 0:41:27.120 a mission, right, Because here's what happens. January twenty first, 0:41:27.200 --> 0:41:31.120 nineteen ninety two. The two they targeted a home in Westport, Connecticut. 0:41:31.360 --> 0:41:33.680 Now remember normally they're down in Florida this time of here. 0:41:34.120 --> 0:41:35.919 So this is what Latella said about that day. 0:41:36.040 --> 0:41:36.520 Quote. 0:41:36.880 --> 0:41:39.799 I recall the woman being downstairs in her foyer and 0:41:39.840 --> 0:41:42.359 Pete says, put me up on the ledge. He went 0:41:42.440 --> 0:41:44.239 up and made entry into the bedroom, and all of 0:41:44.280 --> 0:41:46.520 a sudden, I noticed the woman look up, and I 0:41:46.600 --> 0:41:50.560 knew she heard something. The lady homeowner she called nine 0:41:50.600 --> 0:41:54.360 one one. Pretty soon the surrounding woods were crawling with cops, 0:41:54.760 --> 0:41:58.040 and the cops sweetie dogs, and then the set to 0:41:58.920 --> 0:42:01.200 freaked out their new ghetto driver because he hears all 0:42:01.200 --> 0:42:04.640 the dogs and he just blows. So Selerno and Littella 0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:07.799 they had to hoof it. Uh they This is how 0:42:08.200 --> 0:42:11.560 uh Lttella remembers it. I recall it was like blowing snow, 0:42:11.880 --> 0:42:14.719 maybe ten degrees out. And finally we just conceded to 0:42:14.719 --> 0:42:16.960 the fact, saying, you know, Pete, it doesn't look good. 0:42:17.160 --> 0:42:20.719 That's it. We're done. So basically they were in their 0:42:20.760 --> 0:42:25.200 own personal Sopranos's episode, which is still one of the 0:42:25.200 --> 0:42:28.280 greatest episodes of all time. You're not going to believe 0:42:28.320 --> 0:42:31.719 this guy killed sixteen Chechoslovakians. Guy was an interior decorator, 0:42:32.480 --> 0:42:37.080 so that was them. That was one in the house 0:42:37.160 --> 0:42:42.280 watching this. So anyway, the canine cuties, they found Selerno 0:42:42.440 --> 0:42:45.040 and Littella under a pile of leaves near I ninety five, 0:42:46.040 --> 0:42:48.560 and I hate when that happens to me. Yes, I'm 0:42:48.560 --> 0:42:53.399 getting found under a pile of so many times rible 0:42:53.880 --> 0:42:57.080 Sellerno and Littella. They get arrested, obviously, and then they 0:42:57.080 --> 0:42:59.120 get tied to a bunch of other burglaries. In the end, 0:42:59.160 --> 0:43:02.239 Littella ended up serving nine years in prison and Sealerno 0:43:02.400 --> 0:43:05.959 served four. Their wives got jobs working at a mall 0:43:06.080 --> 0:43:07.600 in Fort Lauderdale. 0:43:07.360 --> 0:43:09.080 And them, yeah, I guess. 0:43:10.880 --> 0:43:12.920 And when he got out on parole, thettele got a 0:43:13.000 --> 0:43:16.040 job selling used boats. And here's what he had to say. 0:43:16.160 --> 0:43:19.480 Quote the certain regrets I do have is if I 0:43:19.520 --> 0:43:22.840 scarred anybody from feeling violated, I'm sorry in that respect, 0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:25.120 you know, because I'm sure a lot of people felt 0:43:25.120 --> 0:43:27.239 that way, because I know how my wife would feel, 0:43:27.280 --> 0:43:29.920 you know, if it's any consolation, you know, and it 0:43:30.000 --> 0:43:32.080 was by us, Believe me, we were gentlemen and we 0:43:32.080 --> 0:43:36.520 weren't there to hurt anybody. Salerno. He shared that he 0:43:36.560 --> 0:43:39.279 had no regrets and enjoyed the jewel thief life and 0:43:39.320 --> 0:43:40.480 the excitement that came with it. 0:43:40.719 --> 0:43:41.920 I got to say, I like his approach. 0:43:42.040 --> 0:43:43.600 They asked him if he would do it again. He 0:43:43.640 --> 0:43:45.799 said no. But when then, like, do you have any 0:43:45.840 --> 0:43:48.080 plans and you know, would you tell anyone about it? 0:43:48.120 --> 0:43:49.800 He laughed and he said no, I wouldn't. 0:43:49.880 --> 0:43:52.560 Also, no, exactly in my. 0:43:52.640 --> 0:43:55.719 Work as a special investigator, I think I found the Sealernos. 0:43:55.920 --> 0:43:58.520 It looks like both Pete and Gloria are still alive. 0:43:58.760 --> 0:44:00.279 Oh wow, yeah, how did you doing. 0:44:00.480 --> 0:44:02.279 I'm not telling I'm not revealing my secrets. They have 0:44:02.320 --> 0:44:04.919 a lovely family. But yeah, it looks like they're both 0:44:04.920 --> 0:44:06.080 still alive in Florida. 0:44:06.480 --> 0:44:07.600 I'm so pridy, thank you. 0:44:08.360 --> 0:44:11.120 So all's well. That ends well, I suppose, But Gloria 0:44:11.160 --> 0:44:16.239 made it. Yay, Gloria. Detective Adams told sixty minutes, I 0:44:16.239 --> 0:44:19.560 can find anybody I know you can. The quote in 0:44:19.719 --> 0:44:22.319 anything that you read in the last forty years in 0:44:22.360 --> 0:44:25.839 regards to jewel thieves, Peter Salerno's name always comes up, 0:44:26.080 --> 0:44:28.800 and he's the standard by which all other jewel thieves 0:44:28.840 --> 0:44:29.400 are judged. 0:44:29.560 --> 0:44:30.000 Wow. 0:44:30.080 --> 0:44:34.200 Yeah, big dog so for the goat trunk. Dolores was right, 0:44:34.280 --> 0:44:37.960 He's the best in the world. Sarah, what's too ridiculous takeaway? 0:44:40.120 --> 0:44:42.160 I gotta say that, I know this is a really 0:44:42.480 --> 0:44:47.200 base ridiculous takeaway, but I think boat theft is really 0:44:47.200 --> 0:44:49.160 where it's at. We've covered this a couple of times. 0:44:49.200 --> 0:44:51.880 If you don't mess that up, I'm thinking that's really 0:44:51.920 --> 0:44:55.560 the move via boat. You ride up in a boat, Yeah, 0:44:55.680 --> 0:44:58.040 you rob a house, it's on the water, and you're 0:44:58.120 --> 0:45:01.840 just it's it seems like, you know, I made a 0:45:01.840 --> 0:45:04.080 gun out of ice and I have ice bullets of murder. 0:45:04.160 --> 0:45:06.960 It's the version of her theba It's like the perfect 0:45:07.640 --> 0:45:08.000 all the. 0:45:07.960 --> 0:45:10.320 Smart stuff, like wait till they're having a dinner party, 0:45:10.360 --> 0:45:13.040 so the alarm's not on. That I think is huge. 0:45:13.040 --> 0:45:14.879 And also people, I think it would take a long 0:45:14.880 --> 0:45:17.480 time before cops would think to look for that as 0:45:17.480 --> 0:45:19.520 an escape route, especially if you were you made a 0:45:19.520 --> 0:45:21.680 couple of little signs that you walked away, yeah, or 0:45:21.719 --> 0:45:23.680 like he put some car whatever it is, you could 0:45:23.719 --> 0:45:25.759 throw them off. For the longest time, they would not 0:45:25.800 --> 0:45:28.239 think of that. I'd think if unless somebody saw you, well. 0:45:28.120 --> 0:45:30.799 And it's like, you know, I don't mind him hitting 0:45:30.840 --> 0:45:33.759 the DuPonts. No offense to the DuPont family, but like 0:45:33.960 --> 0:45:36.799 they're you know, they're still okay, like they didn't but 0:45:36.840 --> 0:45:39.360 like then when he's going after like a subdivision in Boca, 0:45:39.600 --> 0:45:40.239 that was. 0:45:40.320 --> 0:45:41.439 Yeah. They always get to a point. 0:45:41.480 --> 0:45:43.160 I mean the desperation sinks in. 0:45:43.719 --> 0:45:45.840 Yeah. And also they start slipping with age and they 0:45:45.880 --> 0:45:47.640 keep thinking that they can be doing what they were doing. 0:45:47.640 --> 0:45:49.319 And it's like Michael Jordan on the Whizz it. 0:45:49.280 --> 0:45:53.319 Should have been like boa these nuts to find a 0:45:53.360 --> 0:45:55.919 protege exactly, someone to come up through the ranks, someone 0:45:55.960 --> 0:45:58.520 who doesn't have diarrhea. It's always a good thing. 0:45:58.719 --> 0:46:03.400 Diamond Doors had the same issue diarrhea, no getting a hold. 0:46:03.400 --> 0:46:05.800 But yes, now that I can picture her crapping herself, 0:46:05.800 --> 0:46:06.239 thank you. 0:46:06.719 --> 0:46:08.080 We all have crapped ourselves. 0:46:08.160 --> 0:46:11.960 It's what gaves us all together. It bonds us circle. Yeah, 0:46:12.000 --> 0:46:14.120 that's it. That's all I have that we all have shadows. 0:46:14.320 --> 0:46:14.840 That's true. 0:46:15.000 --> 0:46:15.880 Those two things. That's it. 0:46:15.960 --> 0:46:19.120 Good pointing, good point. 0:46:20.400 --> 0:46:21.240 I'll duly noted. 0:46:21.480 --> 0:46:24.040 You can find us online at ridiculous Crime dot com. 0:46:24.480 --> 0:46:27.120 We're at Ridiculous Crime on Twitter and Instagram. I think 0:46:27.160 --> 0:46:30.400 there's an email leave us at talkback on the iHeart 0:46:30.400 --> 0:46:39.040 app and that's It. Ridiculous Crime is hosted by Elizabeth 0:46:39.080 --> 0:46:42.880 Dutton and Zaren Burnette, produced and edited by Diarrhea Dave Kusten. 0:46:43.640 --> 0:46:47.240 Research is by Marissa Queasy Stomach Brown and Andrea Slight 0:46:47.280 --> 0:46:50.480 Fever Song Sharpened Tear. The theme song is by Thomas 0:46:50.520 --> 0:46:55.280 Splitting Headache Lee and Travis Excessive Flatulence Dutton. 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