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Speaker 1: Hey guys, we are back on Normally the show with

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Speaker 2: I Ammerica thinks, and I'm Carol Markowitz, and we are

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Speaker 2: in a government shutdown, Mary Catherine.

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Speaker 3: Can you feel the fear in the streets.

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Speaker 1: We are indeed in a government shutdown. Look, people don't

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Speaker 1: really care that much about them anymore. Yeah, because it

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Speaker 1: happens pretty often, and it usually gets repaired pretty quickly,

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Speaker 1: and it can cause inconvenience for people.

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Speaker 4: But the many, like.

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Speaker 1: Actually problematic political things are usually sort of sequestered from

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Speaker 1: the shutdown, so that that stuff goes out, like social Security.

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Speaker 1: I don't think anyone's going to notice or remember or

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Speaker 1: care by twenty twenty six that this happened. They will remember, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: in Virginia during this governor's race. I do think that

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Speaker 1: is a is a possible political cost.

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Speaker 2: Our friend Sonny Wright tweeted the government is shut down,

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Speaker 2: except they'll continue to collect tax and continue to send

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Speaker 2: out welfare, and most federal employees will continue to work,

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Speaker 2: and all government functions considered essential will continue uninterrupted, and all.

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Speaker 3: Bureaucrats will get back pay.

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Speaker 2: We've sent five social media interns home and closed the

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Speaker 2: bathrooms at some national parks. Is what I'm getting at,

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Speaker 2: which is, yeah, pretty much what's going on here?

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Speaker 4: Well, and here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: Even at this point, the many journalists have had to

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Speaker 1: admit that, like, Republicans gave Democrats what they always ask for, yep,

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Speaker 1: which is called a clean continuing resolution, a clean CR.

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Speaker 1: That means that for a brief period of time, you

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Speaker 1: extend the current level of funding for the government without

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Speaker 1: any partisan Christmas tree of the bill. So the House

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Speaker 1: passes that, it goes to the Senate. The Senate is

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Speaker 1: welcome to pass a clean CR and there won't be

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Speaker 1: a shutdown, right, But the Democrats in the Senate refused

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Speaker 1: to do so, except for a couple who they did

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Speaker 1: lose on that vote, who went the Republican way and

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Speaker 1: voted for the funding bill. And Republicans in the House,

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Speaker 1: i mean Democrats in the House were making this big.

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Speaker 4: Fuss like where are Republicans They've adjourned. It's like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: because they did their job.

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Speaker 1: Republicans in the House did their job and passed it

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Speaker 1: over to the Senate, and the Senate chose not to

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Speaker 1: The Democrats there chose not to do that, so they

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Speaker 1: did shut down. The problem for Democrats is that they

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Speaker 1: are negotiating and doing battle over a shutdown, which they

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Speaker 1: don't want because they love government to operate in right

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Speaker 1: all the ways and even in ways it doesn't operate, and.

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Speaker 4: Just pay it for that anyway.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, they're negotiating with people who don't care.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, that's tough.

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Speaker 2: The Washington Post editorial board has a shutdown column today

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Speaker 2: and they say left wing Democrats, like the Freedom Caucus

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Speaker 2: before them, enter the shutdown in a position of weakness.

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Speaker 2: President Donald Trump and his Budget director Russell Vote now

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Speaker 2: have extraordinary authority to choose which agencies to close, what's

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Speaker 2: bending to prioritize, and even which government workers to lay off.

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Speaker 3: As Trump warned.

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Speaker 5: On Tuesday, we can do things during the shutdown.

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Speaker 3: That are irreversible.

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Speaker 4: Whoopsie, you don't think RUSS has a plan for this. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: RUSS has a plan for this.

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Speaker 1: Russ Bisha has been thinking about this for a decade, yep.

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Speaker 1: And the fact is, yes, they can make changes. They

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Speaker 1: rid of bureaucrats that they don't want. They could later

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Speaker 1: replace those bureaucrats with their bureaucrats, which is a real

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Speaker 1: weakness of Republicans from the past is that the federal

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Speaker 4: The reason that they went forward with.

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Speaker 1: The shutdown, and again I don't think it's going to

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Speaker 1: that first vote. The reason they did it is because

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Speaker 1: when Schumer past a continuing resolution in the spring, he

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's definitely on Schumer's mind. Matt Whitlock of Ten

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Speaker 2: Minute Drill, who has guest hosted on normally in the past,

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Speaker 2: had a really great summary of what is happening and

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Speaker 3: Let's roll that clip.

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Speaker 6: Democrats did the interesting strategy of laying out the fact

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Speaker 6: that they would accept blame for this because their base

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Speaker 6: is a clean continuing resolution. It follows on spending plans

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Speaker 6: Republicans have said we can negotiate those ahead of the

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Speaker 7: Here's Chris Murphy, we have no moral obligation to pay

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Speaker 7: the bills for democracy's destructions.

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Speaker 6: So as you hear that kind of insane rhetoric from

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Speaker 6: Chris Murphy, remember he has voted for this budget thirteen times.

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Speaker 6: So when he says it funds the destruction of our

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Speaker 6: destroy democracy thirteen times. Again, absurd, cartoonish nonsense, but it

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Speaker 6: by their own base, because people like Chris Murphy and

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Speaker 1: A word on this healthcare fight, because unlike most people

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Speaker 1: who cover the healthcare fights and covered Obamacare, I have

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Speaker 1: been subject to Obamacare. I've had to be in the marketplace,

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Speaker 4: And that my premiums would go up, and you.

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Speaker 1: Could have predicted my out of pocket costs would go

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Speaker 4: Marketplaces that would make everything worse for everyone. And in fact,

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Speaker 1: And the way that Democrats have decided to solve the

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Speaker 1: fact that Obamacare did exactly what its critics predicted it

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Speaker 1: the subsidies, as in any other area where government subsidizes,

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Speaker 1: So during COVID the Biden administration, people were like, let's

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Speaker 4: But what they did was say, oh, it's just temporary,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna give forty billion a year to insurance companies.

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Speaker 1: But it's totally temporary because we're an emergency, right, they

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Speaker 1: set it to expire. It's supposed to expire. Now they

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Speaker 1: everyone's premiums are.

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Speaker 4: Going up, and so they want to extend this stuff.

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Speaker 4: But it is crap.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, part of the way they extended

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Speaker 1: it in the past is to get rid of citizenship,

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Speaker 1: like checking requirements to get rid of the requirements for

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Speaker 1: so that they can go, look how many people were.

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Speaker 2: Covering, right, and how that drives up the price for everybody.

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Speaker 1: It's just such an extension of every failure of Obamacare,

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Speaker 1: and they want to do it on your dime, and

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And by the way, also one more thing, when

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Speaker 1: first of all, check all the medicaid press releases from

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Speaker 1: states like New York and states like Oregon that say

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Speaker 1: come on down and get your free insurance illegal immigrants.

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Speaker 1: Check the tape on all the Democrats saying yes, we would.

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Speaker 4: Like to provide that.

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Speaker 5: That's right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, we'd like to provide that.

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Speaker 1: And then follow the money and how they got rid

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Speaker 3: That's absolutely right.

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Speaker 2: And it just they expect American people not to care

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Speaker 3: And American people do care.

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Speaker 2: And I think the Republicans don't often find themselves in

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Speaker 5: Don't know how does this end.

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Speaker 3: Does it end with the Democrats bending well?

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Speaker 1: As Matt notes, their rhetoric makes it really hard for

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Speaker 4: To roll through these things.

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Speaker 1: And look, now it will have the effect of possibly

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Speaker 1: changing the Virginia governor's race because Virginia is very responsive

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Speaker 1: that will give fuel to Alison Abbi el Spamberger, who

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Speaker 4: So I think that's a risk.

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Speaker 1: When this race had been getting very tight, I saw

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Speaker 3: It could be tough for them.

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Speaker 2: We'll be right back on normally where we will talk

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump's twenty point.

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Speaker 3: Plan for peace in the Middle East.

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Speaker 2: And then we'll get to how you shouldn't marry your

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Speaker 4: Why not?

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Speaker 1: But first, it was nearly two years ago that terrorists

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Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty hostages.

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Speaker 4: Today it seems as if the.

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Speaker 1: Cries of the dead and dying have been drowned out

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Speaker 1: by shouts of anti Semitic hatred and the most brutal

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Speaker 1: forgotten in some places. Yet is the world looks away?

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Speaker 1: A light shines in the darkness. It's a movement of

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Speaker 1: and solidarity with the victims of October seventh, twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 7: Many of you have asked, why won't this just fall

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Speaker 7: Why I think this time is different one the Trump factor.

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Speaker 7: This is a president who these capitals throughout the Middle

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Speaker 2: There's no other way to look at it as other

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Speaker 3: Look, you know, we all want.

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Speaker 2: I hope that the Palestinians can throw from us out

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Speaker 3: Sometimes I'm hopeful, other times less. This deal gives them

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Speaker 1: It gives Israel, if it worked as planned, hostages back.

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Speaker 1: It gives the Arab States a stake in making that work.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I appreciate that about Trump, I really do.

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Speaker 2: And look, there's nobody that goes to Israel and walks

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Speaker 1: And as we've noted many times before, perhaps the people

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Speaker 3: It's it's really tough.

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Speaker 2: It's it really becomes a question of do they want

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Speaker 4: And maybe we should do more of that. Guys that'd

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll be right back with more on normally and

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Speaker 3: And they said that there were.

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Speaker 5: Some benefits to first cousin marriage, including stronger extended family

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Speaker 2: But also what about the fact that and nobody knows

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Speaker 3: There's just a lot of problems with marrying your cousin.

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Speaker 4: Which is a thing from Alabama, which you're together, not

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Speaker 1: This is the thing you're not allowed to say, which

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's super weird. The Tories, that's the Conservative party.

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Speaker 3: That's really what it is, right, It's the bending.

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Speaker 5: Your culture to the incoming culture.

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Speaker 2: And again, look, you know I made the joke about royalty,

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Speaker 2: They should fight back a little harder against allowing this

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Speaker 2: And I know that there's a movement for that in England.

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Speaker 2: It's like it's not enough to just be like we're

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Speaker 1: Several scandals in the UK is that authorities look the

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Speaker 1: other way. In this case, it's less like overtly hurtful

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Speaker 1: than other like fresh violence. They look the other way.

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Speaker 1: They sweep it under the rug. They don't admit that

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Speaker 1: it's happening, because in order to admit that it's happening,

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Speaker 1: you have to say that this cultural standard is different

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Speaker 1: than the UK cultural standard and it's bad. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: the thing you have to say. And they are not

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Speaker 1: willing to say that because the woke mindset and the

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Speaker 1: left mindset in Europe and in the UK is all

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Speaker 1: these things are equal.

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Speaker 4: Right, we can't. We're certainly not superior.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, even though like, yeah, in some cases the cultural

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Speaker 1: standard is better here guys, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Labor officials have argued that the band insensitively targets certain

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Speaker 2: cultures like British Pakistanis where in family.

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Speaker 5: Marriages are more common.

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Speaker 2: Don't marry your cousin no matter what nationality or race,

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Speaker 2: you are no cousin marriage.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just we have to maintain our ability to discern things, guys.

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Speaker 3: Let's do that.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for listening, and when things get weird like cousin marriage, heck,

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