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Speaker 5: So excited to be on the show with you guys.
Speaker 5: Excited to get talking a little Cowboys this morning. And
Speaker 5: the obvious place to start is with that schedule that
Speaker 5: just came out last week. I know, we haven't really
Speaker 5: had a chance to discuss. We did a gut feeling
Speaker 5: on the website and.
Speaker 3: The consensus from everybody was pretty much the same. That
Speaker 3: stretch at the end in December doesn't look like it's
Speaker 3: going to be a holly jolly Christmas season, but who knows.
Speaker 3: Let's dive in first impressions of this Dallas Cowboys schedule.
Speaker 6: Even though your size kind of.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the first thing that stood out, and I love
Speaker 4: that we all had a different, mostly different view of
Speaker 4: the most difficult part of the schedule. So a lot
Speaker 4: of you guys looked at the back end, and rightfully so,
Speaker 4: look at what's coming for December and around Christmas Eve
Speaker 4: and that trip from Buffalo to Miami. You talk about
Speaker 4: traveling miles and things like that, but what really jumped
Speaker 4: out to me was the start. So it's all about
Speaker 4: how you finish. Absolutely, it's all about how you finish
Speaker 4: in the NFL. But getting off to a hot start
Speaker 4: will absolutely help your finish be that much stronger. The
Speaker 4: Cowboys four of their first six games.
Speaker 1: You're at the Giants. You're at the Giants.
Speaker 4: And when I say at the Giants, ladies, you don't
Speaker 4: be Keep in mind, these are the same Giants that
Speaker 4: made the playoffs last year. These are the same Giants
Speaker 4: that are taking a step forward under Brian day Bow.
Speaker 4: This is the Giants team that, in my opinion, is
Speaker 4: a contender for the NFC East crowd. So this is
Speaker 4: not just the oh, well, we're playing the Giants again.
Speaker 4: You better pay attention because these Giants. Yes, Dak Prescott
Speaker 4: owns them, that's also true, but the Giants can make
Speaker 4: waves and you don't want to start off on one
Speaker 4: because that's you know, that's just not how you want
Speaker 4: to start the season. Come back Week three and you're
Speaker 4: in Arizona. We'll see how that goes. Not worried about that.
Speaker 4: But it is a road game. So for the first
Speaker 4: six games are road games. Majority of those six games,
Speaker 4: you have several primetime games mixed into that. This is
Speaker 4: that's brutal because also you're at San Francisco rematch.
Speaker 1: You love it, but you hate it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, right on Sunday Night especially.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, that's what I was going to say.
Speaker 5: The biggest thing about that is it's a Sunday night game,
Speaker 5: so you want to talk about the pressure of that
Speaker 5: being a playoff match up the rematch rematch of the
Speaker 5: year before, and then the drama just continues and now
Speaker 5: we get to see that on Sunday Night football.
Speaker 4: Oh but wait, there's more because you go from Sunday
Speaker 4: Might Football playing against the forty nine ers, whom you're
Speaker 4: really trying to.
Speaker 1: Get that monkey off of your back against.
Speaker 4: Monday Night Football is the next week and it's against
Speaker 4: the Los Angeles Chargers. And you could say what you
Speaker 4: want about Kellen Moore, but if you're paying attention to
Speaker 4: the numbers and the trends and how he calls offenses,
Speaker 4: and you give him Justin Herbert, you give him assuming
Speaker 4: Austin Eckler still in the building. But then you also
Speaker 4: look at what they have defensively as well. On a
Speaker 4: short week from Sunday night to Monday night, that little
Speaker 4: two game stretch in California is pretty freaking brutal.
Speaker 1: We will know.
Speaker 4: Most about the Dallas Cowboys in twenty twenty three before
Speaker 4: you get to the week seven.
Speaker 8: By Yeah, yeah, Kellen Moore, he's gonna walk into so
Speaker 8: far with like that Cam Newton.
Speaker 7: Giff Oh yeah, okay, okay, yeah.
Speaker 9: This is it.
Speaker 7: But yeah, you mentioned that start.
Speaker 8: The start is definitely something to pay attention to, especially
Speaker 8: with three of those four road games being on the
Speaker 8: West Coast.
Speaker 7: I mean, we'll see how much.
Speaker 8: Maybe maybe training camp will help them, you know, come
Speaker 8: over that obstacle. But I like what you said going
Speaker 8: into the bye week, we're gonna know a lot about
Speaker 8: this team, and there's we're gonna what the problems are,
Speaker 8: We're gonna know what the fixes are. But then coming
Speaker 8: out of the bye week, I think you know you
Speaker 8: got the Rams and then going at Philly, I'm surprised
Speaker 8: that's not a primetime.
Speaker 7: Game, but hey, I'll take it, I'll take you.
Speaker 8: But I do want to talk about that December stretch
Speaker 8: just because you know, I think there might be a
Speaker 8: little positive you can find in that December stretch. And
Speaker 8: I was thinking about it this morning on my drive
Speaker 8: up here, and I've looked on and this is definitely
Speaker 8: a positive to take away. So bear with me here.
Speaker 8: We start on Sunday night home against Philadelphia. Now Philadelphia
Speaker 8: going into that game will be coming off a three
Speaker 8: game stretch of at Kansas City, home against Buffalo and
Speaker 8: home against the Niners, and then at Cowboys. Thought exactly, So,
Speaker 8: I mean, that's that's not too bad. And then if
Speaker 8: you look at Buffalo going at Buffalo going into that game,
Speaker 8: they got to go at Philly, they get their bye week,
Speaker 8: but then they gotta go at Kansas City and then
Speaker 8: they come home against Dallas. So the Cowboys won't be
Speaker 8: the only one on a tough stretch in December. But
Speaker 8: Miami they kind of have a couple of layups before
Speaker 8: we have Aaron Rodgers the week before. But I'm I'm
Speaker 8: not completely sold that Aaron Rodgers is going to just
Speaker 8: turn Here's like he could.
Speaker 5: Don't get me wrong about that, though, because I agree
Speaker 5: and people were trying to clown me on Twitter whenever
Speaker 5: the whole initiative of get Aaron Rodgers to the Jets
Speaker 5: started coming to fruition Aaron Rodgers. And I'm not trying
Speaker 5: to dog him for his talent, right, He's a great quarterback,
Speaker 5: one of the best to ever do it. He'll go
Speaker 5: into the Hall of Fame, all that good stuff, right,
Speaker 5: But when.
Speaker 6: You look at how he literally just gave up last season.
Speaker 5: He kind of felt that the year before as well,
Speaker 5: and then we make all this who blob about him
Speaker 5: going to the Jets. Somebody was asking me the other day,
Speaker 5: you know, like, oh, the Jets are going to be
Speaker 5: so good, and I'm like, well, who else is on
Speaker 5: the Jets? Like, you've Aaron Rodgers, Garrett Will you have
Speaker 5: Garrett Wilson, You've got the little running back that that
Speaker 5: was a rookie last year that I believed towards acl
Speaker 5: or his achilles.
Speaker 7: So Michael Carter, Yeah, yeah, Crickets. I like Sauce. Garter say,
Speaker 7: I like Sauce.
Speaker 8: You have to right, You're right, yeah, yeah, sure, there's
Speaker 8: holes up on both sides of the ball there, And
Speaker 8: I'm just I'm not convinced that he's going to sepend
Speaker 8: day one and be an afcast.
Speaker 7: It's a tough division.
Speaker 1: He's got to get out of the division.
Speaker 4: I think was going to help Aaron Rodgers is the
Speaker 4: familiarity he has with playing at AT and T Stadium, because
Speaker 4: in that first six game stretch, Aaron Rodgers is coming
Speaker 4: to at and T Stadium week two, So you mess
Speaker 4: around and start off on one against the Giants, and
Speaker 4: now you're staying at ane and two hole, a possible
Speaker 4: and two hole with Aaron Rodgers. I don't think that
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers is going to be the magic medicine for
Speaker 4: the New York Jets. I think that time has proven
Speaker 4: that there is no magic medicine for the New York
Speaker 4: Jets because ultimately, while they'll ebb and flow even at their.
Speaker 1: Peak, they're still the Jets, right.
Speaker 4: So I do think that will be a competitive game
Speaker 4: because I don't think number one Aaron Rodgers versus the
Speaker 4: Cowboys is Aaron Rodgers versus the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Flash back to twenty twenty two.
Speaker 4: If we got it, you saw it, you know, yeah,
Speaker 4: you know the facts are the facts. So yes, he
Speaker 4: could come in here and make and costs damage. Let's
Speaker 4: put it that way. But by the time the season
Speaker 4: is over, maybe midpoint, I think the Jets kind of
Speaker 4: start to wane a little bit. And as you stated,
Speaker 4: with Aaron Rodgers's temperament, he's not going to give the
Speaker 4: Jets as much emotional grace as he gave the Green
Speaker 4: Bay Packers. If the Jets and those teammates around him
Speaker 4: that didn't come over with him from the Packers, if
Speaker 4: those new guys are not up to his standard, he's
Speaker 4: going to mentally check out and it's going to be
Speaker 4: what it's going to be, and then maybe he plays
Speaker 4: for the Vikings before.
Speaker 1: It's as Yeah.
Speaker 5: Let me ask you this though, because this was obviously
Speaker 5: a conversation that was going around as the schedule was
Speaker 5: getting released, the idea that the Jets were going to
Speaker 5: play the Cowboys on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 6: We obviously know that didn't happen.
Speaker 5: But my question for you both are is it better
Speaker 5: to see Aaron Rodgers week two or would we have
Speaker 5: rather seen Aaron Rodgers Thanksgiving time week two?
Speaker 8: I think just because it's going to take him a
Speaker 8: little bit to get accustom with that offense. There's a
Speaker 8: lot of different weapons than what he was dealing with.
Speaker 8: In Green Bay. Also getting in the mindset of competing again,
Speaker 8: because like you said, it didn't really feel like he
Speaker 8: was competing at times last year.
Speaker 7: It was like Christian Watson in the world.
Speaker 8: And so I mean, yeah, exactly, I'm going to be
Speaker 8: watching them in the preseason pretty closely, just to see
Speaker 8: how in tune he is with those receivers. I mean,
Speaker 8: everything you hear out in New York is, Oh, he's
Speaker 8: at practice, he's doing you know, great, and they're connecting
Speaker 8: with him. And he's showing up to Nixon Heat games
Speaker 8: to watch the Knicks lose and yeah, ye slight, slighttick.
Speaker 1: There, but.
Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly. But the Jets, I would rather see them
Speaker 8: week two. I hate that it's the first home game,
Speaker 8: just I feel like that was someone was evil laughing.
Speaker 7: Someone was evil laughing. But step up to the challenge.
Speaker 4: And I'm saying I agree, Nick, I believe that it's
Speaker 4: better to see Aaron Rodgers in week to number one.
Speaker 4: Go ahead and get it out of the way. Also,
Speaker 4: I want to see I'd rather play that Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 4: coming out of the darkness, right. I want to see
Speaker 4: this Aaron Rodgers. I don't want the one that still
Speaker 4: needs to be broken in with his new team again.
Speaker 4: I think by the time you get to November December,
Speaker 4: the Jets are kind of we'll see. But even around Thanksgiving,
Speaker 4: you know Aaron Rodgers will get up for It's not
Speaker 4: a primetime game, but it's a prime time game, and
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers is going to get up for that. He
Speaker 4: lives for that, and it's against the Cowboys. Week two
Speaker 4: is much more of a from his standpoint. It's like
Speaker 4: he's still feeling out the new guys and he's like, hey,
Speaker 4: it's the Cowboys and going to try to get up
Speaker 4: for it.
Speaker 1: But it's week two.
Speaker 4: If I lose this game, it's not a big deal
Speaker 4: because that's how Aaron Rodgers thinks, because he knows he's
Speaker 4: good enough most times to overcome it over the course
Speaker 4: of the season. I'd rather see him week two while
Speaker 4: they're still figuring out things in New York.
Speaker 6: I agree.
Speaker 5: I think that exactly everything you just said. Don't give
Speaker 5: him a chance to get warmed up and finally break
Speaker 5: that curse. And then I think, from a just a
Speaker 5: morales standpoint, like you get that off the way, then
Speaker 5: your next checkpoint is beating the forty nine ers and
Speaker 5: getting past that checkpoint as well.
Speaker 6: I think a.
Speaker 5: Sneaky interesting part of this schedule that has potential to
Speaker 5: be really good or really bad for this team as well.
Speaker 5: It's a stretch right after the bye week, so you
Speaker 5: host the Rams at home, and I'm not super concerned
Speaker 5: about that one. The Rams, to me, I don't feel
Speaker 5: like they really.
Speaker 1: Improved full rebuilt.
Speaker 6: Yeah I don't. I just I'm not worried about it.
Speaker 5: And that's not to say that teams can't play, but
Speaker 5: it's the stretch that comes after that. So they're at
Speaker 5: Philadelphia and then they are back home facing the Giants.
Speaker 5: They got a quick road game to Carolina to see
Speaker 5: what Rice Young can do. And to me, to me,
Speaker 5: that Carolina game, it reminds me of the not the
Speaker 5: Titans game last year. Ecuse me, the Jacksonville game last year,
Speaker 5: where we were there was so much momentum going into
Speaker 5: that one. The expectation was that the Jags aren't very good.
Speaker 5: They don't have, you know, the same weaponry that the
Speaker 5: Cowboys had. It should have been a walk away when
Speaker 5: and obviously we know that wasn't the case. So to me,
Speaker 5: that Carolina game kind of has that same Jacksonville Energy,
Speaker 5: and then you have to turn around and.
Speaker 6: Come back and host Washington.
Speaker 5: So that's all three of your division games back to
Speaker 5: back to back.
Speaker 6: Essentially. To me, that kind of that would be.
Speaker 5: The defining point, if you will, of the season because
Speaker 5: you want to start fast, you want to keep that momentum,
Speaker 5: but that stretch there, you lose one game to your point,
Speaker 5: the Giants are on the rebuild there up maybe it's
Speaker 5: the same thing last year where everyone is vying for
Speaker 5: that first and second spot. So to me, that's an
Speaker 5: area that I think should be circled on the roster
Speaker 5: right now that they're preparing for.
Speaker 4: One hundred percent agree if you look at the stretch
Speaker 4: from November fifth to through Thanksgiving, like you said, you
Speaker 4: got three NFC East games, and I think that's going
Speaker 4: to be pivotal to deciding who comes out the victor
Speaker 4: for this division. I think all three of those teams,
Speaker 4: New York, the Giants, I should say, Philadelphia, and the
Speaker 4: Dallas Cowboys, those are going to be your three front runners.
Speaker 4: But I don't think the Commanders are going to suck. Okay,
Speaker 4: I think the Commanders are. They're going through some things,
Speaker 4: new ownership and everything but I don't think they're a
Speaker 4: three win team. I think, particularly with that defense, I
Speaker 4: think they can six or seven eight the ball of
Speaker 4: bounce in their favor in one of those games and
Speaker 4: they'll get a plus one.
Speaker 1: So Ill said they're an eight win team.
Speaker 4: But if they're eight and nine, they're at least making
Speaker 4: things difficult for the three teams I see as contenders,
Speaker 4: the Giants, the Cowboys, and the Philadelphia Eagles. So that
Speaker 4: four game stretch is going to be something to watch
Speaker 4: for sure.
Speaker 8: Yeah, all they really need is consistent quarterback play, and
Speaker 8: I feel like they can put it together. I mean,
Speaker 8: they have the weapons, they have key pieces on defense.
Speaker 8: I feel like they can make that work. But yeah,
Speaker 8: coming out of that bye week through like Thanksgiving or
Speaker 8: even the Seattle game, that's a crucial part of the schedule.
Speaker 8: You have to be able to build momentum going into
Speaker 8: that December stretch. But something that's really cool that I
Speaker 8: found last week at Carolina Sunday November nineteenth against Bryce Young,
Speaker 8: the Cowboys in franchise history have only defeated one number
Speaker 8: one pick at quarterback the year.
Speaker 7: Do you know who that is?
Speaker 6: I don't. I'm horrible at trivia.
Speaker 7: Jim Plunkett nineteen seventy one.
Speaker 6: I would have never known that.
Speaker 8: One in four all times. So yeah, looking for dumb
Speaker 8: number two. Hopefully we can get that on the road.
Speaker 4: And the Panthers offense, it's shaping up to be pretty healthy.
Speaker 4: And I was one speaking of about the Jackson New
Speaker 4: Jaguars last year. Previewing that game, I kept telling everyone,
Speaker 4: you need to make sure that you understand that they're
Speaker 4: cooking some things down there, especially with Doug Peterson and
Speaker 4: what he's able to do with Trevor Lawrence, and you know,
Speaker 4: you saw Etn come on strong coming off of his injury,
Speaker 4: and so they did what they did, and the Cowboys
Speaker 4: should have won that game. And I predicted they would
Speaker 4: win the game, but I predicted it would be close,
Speaker 4: but unfortunately the Cowboys at the end kind of gave
Speaker 4: up the the Buns. But nonetheless, when it comes to
Speaker 4: facing Carolina, it's another NFC South team that can be problematic.
Speaker 4: If it were against the Falcons, I'm not too concerned.
Speaker 4: I mean, you be concerned about Bijon, but overall you're
Speaker 4: not concerned. The defense they have aj Terrell. They got
Speaker 4: a complimentary piece at cornerback, but overall they're not putting
Speaker 4: things together, nor are the Buccaneers, who are rebuilding now
Speaker 4: post Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: Now I feel like and.
Speaker 4: The Saints they're right there, But it's Saints Panthers as
Speaker 4: far as NFC South troublemakers for whom the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Would have to play. So thankfully it's going to be.
Speaker 4: Not the Saints, because I think the Saints could are
Speaker 4: better because Dennis Allen has things going on, but the
Speaker 4: Panthers are still so to be real.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like I said before, I think the Panthers will
Speaker 5: be on the rebuild obviously, I am.
Speaker 6: I am most interested to see Bryce Young.
Speaker 5: You know, I think as the number one overall pick,
Speaker 5: we kind of saw that coming to Fruition.
Speaker 1: Do you feel he was the best quarterback in this dream.
Speaker 1: I'm just curious.
Speaker 5: I do, and I will tell you I think it's
Speaker 5: really close between him and C. J.
Speaker 6: Stroud.
Speaker 5: And I know that new SR S two test can
Speaker 5: get but it still new.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we don't care about that play football.
Speaker 5: But but but something that I actually learned from talking
Speaker 5: with Deuce Vaughn this week, in terms of size, that's
Speaker 5: Bryce's big question, right, He's small and He did put
Speaker 5: on some weight after the season ended, but he's still small.
Speaker 6: He's there's going to be times where he's going to
Speaker 6: get crunched.
Speaker 5: But here's why I like Bryce Young and I can
Speaker 5: say this as well because I've covered him before. Bryce
Speaker 5: is always the most intelligent person in the room in
Speaker 5: terms of football, in terms of just general knowledge. He's attentive,
Speaker 5: He's a very quick learner. I think back to when
Speaker 5: he was It was this freshman year at Alabama. He's
Speaker 5: playing behind Mac Jones, and every time he would get
Speaker 5: reps when Alabama was up on the scoreboard, you could
Speaker 5: just tell, even as a freshman that the wheels were turning.
Speaker 5: It was constantly clicking. The way he communicates, the way
Speaker 5: he's able to roll out of the pocket and be composed,
Speaker 5: I think that that's the type of stuff with the
Speaker 5: quarterback that you can't necessarily teach. And it's not to
Speaker 5: say that CJ. Stroud isn't composed. It's not to say
Speaker 5: that Anthony Richardson wasn't the most athletic quarterback in the
Speaker 5: draft this year. It's not to say that Will Levis
Speaker 5: might be a sneaky good contender.
Speaker 6: But I just think in terms of overall package.
Speaker 5: When you look at what you want in a quarterback,
Speaker 5: I think it's Bryce Young, and I think if Bryce
Speaker 5: had maybe three more inches of height and fifteen more pounds.
Speaker 7: It would be dangerous, dangerous.
Speaker 4: I think for my money, it's CJ. Stroud as the
Speaker 4: best quarterback coming out of this class. And for me,
Speaker 4: it's not because Bryce is a couple inches shorter than people.
Speaker 4: I don't care about that because not to impair him,
Speaker 4: because you have to build this resume, but you could
Speaker 4: cite things like this. You look at Drew Brees and
Speaker 4: what he was able to do, and even Kyler Murray
Speaker 4: before his struggles recently he came into the league, size
Speaker 4: was a question for him. There is something to be
Speaker 4: said for these guys who don't necessarily hit your your
Speaker 4: threshold as far as height is concerned a quarterback, because
Speaker 4: if you then turn around and look at the other
Speaker 4: side of the ball and you say, okay, well, yeah,
Speaker 4: there's a prototypical size. You're Ben Roethlisberger's those bigger guys
Speaker 4: and things like that, but then okay, pack stilynch Okay.
Speaker 4: So there are prototypes physically that just that just don't
Speaker 4: a while. To my point exactly there. You don't go
Speaker 4: for the prototype, you go for the talent and the IQ.
Speaker 4: And I feel like Bryce has that in spades, and
Speaker 4: I don't put him, you know, light years behind c J.
Speaker 1: Stroud. I think it's a one A one B equation.
Speaker 4: I think for me, and it might be biased, not
Speaker 4: necessarily towards CJ. But because much like you covered Bryce,
Speaker 4: I experienced the terror of c J. Stroud all right
Speaker 4: in the college football Playoff semi final Ohio State versus
Speaker 4: my dogs. He was an absolute terrorist and the only
Speaker 4: reason they lost that game was the.
Speaker 1: Kicker and sucked, right, But c J. Stroud was a maniac.
Speaker 4: And it was at that moment in that game where
Speaker 4: I said, hey, you know what, And I've seen plenty
Speaker 4: of Bryce obviously, sec I've seen plenty of Bryce Young,
Speaker 4: but it was that moment where.
Speaker 1: I said, c J.
Speaker 4: Stroud takes not But that said, Bryce Young can get
Speaker 4: it done in Carolina. So when Cowboys travel out to Charlotte, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: That defense is going to have their hands full.
Speaker 4: But that said, contrarily, I think this is where the
Speaker 4: streak kind of ends. And we'll get the previews during
Speaker 4: the season, but I think the street kind of ends
Speaker 4: here because I don't think that defense that has existed,
Speaker 4: the defenses that have existed since that plunket when are
Speaker 4: anywhere similar to this particular defense. So Bryce Young, it's
Speaker 4: good that he played in the SEC because this defense
Speaker 4: he's about to go up against the Cowboys and Dan Quinn.
Speaker 1: Good look, young man.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Debarvey on Overshown is gonna be looking for a
Speaker 8: little bit of revenge, just a little bit. You would
Speaker 8: have to think you would have a little bit of
Speaker 8: a chip on this. Yeah, I'm gonna have to ask
Speaker 8: Demo about that one.
Speaker 6: We'll have to get into that.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 5: Well, let's go ahead and take our first break here
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Speaker 5: About this schedule today, I just came up with, Uh,
Speaker 5: we've been discussing the Cowboys schedule obviously, and I'm excited
Speaker 5: to welcome in our special guest.
Speaker 6: It's not really a special guest. He's on this show
Speaker 6: every week.
Speaker 5: Isaiah stand back on the phone with us. Isaiah, Yeah,
Speaker 5: what's cracking, buddy.
Speaker 13: Cragging last night? But it's okay. I had to be
Speaker 13: president because I've been wrecking from my city. I'm proud
Speaker 13: of my boys for the you know, Seattle cragging. They
Speaker 13: went out there and complete it hard against the Dallas
Speaker 13: Stars and the Dallas Stars. We did a little bit
Speaker 13: too much this time around. But if I didn't show
Speaker 13: up prisons on this show, I knew that there's a
Speaker 13: young man older a hand acrossing the table that was
Speaker 13: gonna have a whole mouthful of the king. So I
Speaker 13: have to be pregnant, Isaiah.
Speaker 6: I want you to know that it's not just you.
Speaker 6: Patrick came in today all decked out head to.
Speaker 5: Toe in his Atlanta braves to talk smack to Nick Harris.
Speaker 5: Uh and then literally in the break did a complete
Speaker 5: head to toe outfit change.
Speaker 6: So now he's got Dallas Star's hat. Choose the whole.
Speaker 13: Six I'm watching.
Speaker 4: I am a man of my word when I say
Speaker 4: I'm going to bring the smoke to all respective parties,
Speaker 4: that is what I'm going to do.
Speaker 1: Nick Harris had to catch it the Rangers versus the Braids.
Speaker 1: I had to give them segment one.
Speaker 4: But the beauty of it is we didn't know quite
Speaker 4: yet if you'd make it on to segment two. But again,
Speaker 4: respect my god, because you're not running from the smoke.
Speaker 1: But I did tell you, did I not? I did
Speaker 1: tell you.
Speaker 13: What it was. It was the most competitive and serious,
Speaker 13: Yes it was. Yes, regardless of the support. Yeah, I
Speaker 13: mean all the way down to the last second. Seattle
Speaker 13: had their chances. They didn't take advantage. So Dallas, kudos,
Speaker 13: and y'all going off to the conference finals right there,
Speaker 13: and hopefully you guys take care of business now that
Speaker 13: Seattle's elegant. Now I'm a Dallas fans welcome.
Speaker 4: I love it and shouts out to the craw because
Speaker 4: we nothing can be taken away from that team and
Speaker 4: what they were able to do. Yeah, and you know
Speaker 4: it took seven games to put them down. Jump out
Speaker 4: on the on the Stars in Game one in that
Speaker 4: overtime win. And again, like you said, isaid just easily
Speaker 4: the best series thus far of what overall has just
Speaker 4: been a light a nightmare or I should say nightmare
Speaker 4: scenario for those who complain about hockey and hockey is
Speaker 4: too boring.
Speaker 1: If you're not watching these NHL playoffs, I don't know what.
Speaker 4: You're watching, but yeah, Isaiah inhale that smoke in hell,
Speaker 4: just take a deep breath, get it all in your
Speaker 4: LVO Live.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just get get it all in your bloodstream.
Speaker 6: Isaiah, we've been talking about the schedule.
Speaker 5: I would love to know your thoughts on it, just
Speaker 5: initial thoughts and maybe a stretch where you feel like
Speaker 5: the Cowboys have to be successful in order to be
Speaker 5: successful in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 13: Do you know what, as I look at this, I
Speaker 13: think it's the whole season two of us see this schedule.
Speaker 13: The person that comes to my mind it is as
Speaker 13: competitive That's literally the first word that comes to my mind.
Speaker 13: There's maybe two teams on here that you just feel
Speaker 13: like you can probably you know, handle in your sleep.
Speaker 13: Other than that, this is gonna be compective till I mean,
Speaker 13: you obviously got your your division roles that you got
Speaker 13: to deal with all the time. But then you start
Speaker 13: sprinkling in, you know, the Jets, the Patriots and Chargers. Uh,
Speaker 13: you know, you got those guys, and you got the Panthers.
Speaker 13: Who are we know they're they're loading up on a
Speaker 13: bunch of talent and they have a bunch of young
Speaker 13: talent right now, make them some veterans. They're gonna be competitive.
Speaker 13: Schiano obviously is always competitive, regardless of how big of
Speaker 13: the names they have over there. Buffalo competitive Lions. They're
Speaker 13: gonna fight too to nail Dolphins freaking track meet, right, So,
Speaker 13: I mean, this is gonna be a l I don't
Speaker 13: know who had it out for the caliber, but this
Speaker 13: is not an easy schedule by any means. This is
Speaker 13: not last year. Last year's schedule could could have been
Speaker 13: very well perceived as being relatively easy. This year, oh,
Speaker 13: they have it out for the Virginia this time around,
Speaker 13: So they got to bring the big boy pants.
Speaker 7: Receivon, you know.
Speaker 4: And what makes it even more challenging is you look
Speaker 4: at the schedule and just from a superficial standpoint, you
Speaker 4: can tell, like Isaiah saying, this is going to be
Speaker 4: very challenging because, whether it's generally speaking or in certain segments,
Speaker 4: you talk about the front end, you talk about the
Speaker 4: back end, we talked about the middle. Okay, well, the
Speaker 4: front is difficult, in the back is difficult, in the
Speaker 4: middle is difficult. I'm going to go go ahead and
Speaker 4: say the whole thing is freaking difficult. But if you
Speaker 4: break it down to the minutia talking about that trip
Speaker 4: from you got Philadelphia, which is going to be a
Speaker 4: home game, but then you go all the way to Buffalo,
Speaker 4: and then you drop all the way down to Miami.
Speaker 4: But then you go all the way to we didn't
Speaker 4: say this yet. We got to point out you go
Speaker 4: to Detroit the Lions. I'm sorry, the Detroit is here,
Speaker 4: but you're playing the Lions. The Lions the past couple
Speaker 4: of years under Dan Campbell, they're the fighting Dan Campbell's
Speaker 4: and arguably they now if you look at the roster
Speaker 4: as it set up now on paper, this is the
Speaker 4: best roster that Dan Campbell has had, and I think
Speaker 4: this is going to be his third year with the Lions,
Speaker 4: so that's going to be a difficult challenge as well.
Speaker 4: So no matter where you point, I mean, you could
Speaker 4: just drop a pin at any point in the schedule
Speaker 4: and you're going to have a challenge.
Speaker 7: Yeah, seventeen Detroit.
Speaker 8: I feel like a lot of people are talking about
Speaker 8: how they're the team this year that can really get
Speaker 8: going and surprise some people and sneak into the playoffs.
Speaker 8: I don't think they're gonna be sneaking into the playoffs
Speaker 8: by any means. I think their division favorites over there,
Speaker 8: which is crazy to say these days, but I'm looking
Speaker 8: at this schedule and I could see a reality where
Speaker 8: they're coming out of this eleven and six or maybe
Speaker 8: even ten and seven, sneaking into a wildcard spot. And
Speaker 8: I would feel more comfortable going into the playoffs than
Speaker 8: I did last year, just because there's so much more
Speaker 8: battle tested.
Speaker 7: They have some tough road games.
Speaker 8: And to have that kind of battle on your schedule
Speaker 8: going into the playoffs, that's that's something you really want
Speaker 8: to have.
Speaker 7: Let's say you get one of Buffalo of Miami.
Speaker 8: You go to Philadelphia and get a win, and you
Speaker 8: know you have some scary wins on your schedule.
Speaker 7: That's gonna help whenever playoff time comes around.
Speaker 5: Isaiah, I want to take you, sorry, I want to
Speaker 5: take you back to your playing days as well, because
Speaker 5: I know you said that this schedule top to bottom
Speaker 5: is incredibly difficult. Was there ever a time, whether it
Speaker 5: was with the Cowboys or somewhere else where, you had
Speaker 5: a schedule like this as a player, and how did
Speaker 5: you approach that mentally?
Speaker 13: You know, I heard it again, I don't remember. I mean,
Speaker 13: you look at as a player, you look at it
Speaker 13: and it's like, oh, it is what it is. You know,
Speaker 13: you go you go into every game knowing that you're
Speaker 13: gonna have to bring your best. Now, obviously some opponents
Speaker 13: are obviously more talented, more experience, and are gonna be
Speaker 13: a little bit more gridier than others. But the reality is,
Speaker 13: as a player, you're going on and you're giving your
Speaker 13: one hundred no matter what, because if you don't, you're
Speaker 13: gonna go out there and get hurt. Something bad is
Speaker 13: gonna happen and your season will turn around in the
Speaker 13: opposite direction. So competitively, you approach it the same. But
Speaker 13: you but you let's be real. You know, you look
Speaker 13: at the schedule, you say, oh crap, there's some dogs
Speaker 13: on the schedule. You know, like I don't know who
Speaker 13: decided to give Christmas to Dallas, but this is like
Speaker 13: when you get decided to write this up in December, right,
Speaker 13: like honestly, like I understand that you have your your
Speaker 13: Thursday night games, and you know you have ten days
Speaker 13: off before your next game, and you're knowed for the
Speaker 13: first game of December. But that last third man come
Speaker 13: on Philly. Then you got Bustalo, and you got Miami,
Speaker 13: and you got Detroit. These are all playoff teams, right,
Speaker 13: Like not just playoff teams, but like deep in the
Speaker 13: playoff type teams. So it's like, yeah, this wh is real.
Speaker 13: So I mean, from my perspective only like these guys
Speaker 13: are gonna approach every game the same. It's just that
Speaker 13: some teams are better than others. In Dallas Seemingley looking
Speaker 13: at their schedule have some of the best teams in
Speaker 13: the NFL.
Speaker 4: You know what, Isaiah, to your point, anyone who pulls
Speaker 4: up the schedule point, I challenge you to point at
Speaker 4: more than two teams that you could scoff at on
Speaker 4: the schedule. Yeah, you could scoff at the Cardinals. They're
Speaker 4: still the NFL team, so they'll but they'll compete with
Speaker 4: You know, you can scoff at the Cardinals, and you
Speaker 4: can scoff at the Rams.
Speaker 1: Who else you scoffing at?
Speaker 4: We just said you can't scoff at this version of
Speaker 4: the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 7: Especially on the road on a noon game.
Speaker 1: Correct. You definitely can't scoff at the Lions.
Speaker 4: You can't even scoff at the Commanders because again, I
Speaker 4: think that's an eight win team, which is below five hundred. However,
Speaker 4: they're going to compete tooth and nail with the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 4: And we know this, so other than the Cardinals and
Speaker 4: the Rams, none of these are games that you can
Speaker 4: even remotely overlook. They have to come and play every
Speaker 4: single week. Now to the Cowboys credit. Look at the
Speaker 4: offseason moves they've made on Gilmore, Brandon Cooks.
Speaker 1: You know, look at the additions they've made in the draft.
Speaker 4: Overall, especially on defense, This Cowboys roster looks to have
Speaker 4: leveled up.
Speaker 1: It looks more electric.
Speaker 4: You talk about duce Vaughn adding him with Tony Pollard
Speaker 4: and Rojo being that short yardage back. You talk about
Speaker 4: adding Schoonmaker to the tight end room with Jake Ferguson
Speaker 4: and paying him to shot. So the Cowboys are not
Speaker 4: lacking for weapons on any side of the bar, including
Speaker 4: special teams as well, because Deuce can provide a return
Speaker 4: game opposite Cavante Turpin when they need to rest Turping
Speaker 4: whatever they want to do there.
Speaker 1: So these teams also.
Speaker 4: Kind of have it up there back against the wall
Speaker 4: facing the Cowboys. So I know we're talking a lot
Speaker 4: about you know, the Cowboys have the schedule cut out
Speaker 4: for him, but the teams that they're playing, it's not
Speaker 4: exactly a cakewalk with this particular Dallas Cowboys team. If
Speaker 4: Dak Prescott, which I'm wholly confident he can, if he
Speaker 4: can improve upon the interceptions, which statistically weren't aberration if
Speaker 4: you look at the entirety of his career, he can
Speaker 4: improve upon them. You got a new quarterback coach, which
Speaker 4: I think matters massively in Isaiah, I know you agree
Speaker 4: with me on that as well. If Dak Prescott scales
Speaker 4: back the interceptions, this Cowboys team is going to be
Speaker 4: It's thirteen and fourteen.
Speaker 8: Yeah, the offense is gonna be a really big determining
Speaker 8: factor of how this all plays out for obvious reasons.
Speaker 8: But if we're coming out of the bye week and
Speaker 8: we have questions about the offense, then we better hope
Speaker 8: the defenses has taken that next step that it looks
Speaker 8: like they're about to take, and we're gonna have to
Speaker 8: outscore teams or we're gonna have to, you know, put
Speaker 8: you a.
Speaker 7: Little month, put that stone wall up. Yeah, exactly. Madzi's
Speaker 7: gonna have to get active. That's that's one thing.
Speaker 8: That is very much. Yeah, Yeah, I don't think that's
Speaker 8: gonna be a problem. He's gonna be ready to go.
Speaker 5: But Isaiah, final thoughts before we let you get back
Speaker 5: to your morning.
Speaker 4: I'm excited to see when she said mourning, she means that,
Speaker 4: m oh, you are in Ida.
Speaker 6: I'm generally interested in your mourning.
Speaker 13: Isaiah. No, you know, one boy, there's only assistent with
Speaker 13: me is competitiveness. Ever since they turned Dan Quinn, that
Speaker 13: was one of the words, you know, culture and competition
Speaker 13: and competitiveness, those are the words that are being really
Speaker 13: at the root of everything that I really say on
Speaker 13: this show. On any other platform. This is going to
Speaker 13: be a testament of their character. You're really going to
Speaker 13: see the character the Dallas Cowboys in this season because
Speaker 13: you're going to have to find out based upon their
Speaker 13: opponents alone, regardless of what is self generated these guys
Speaker 13: when they step on the field against these opponents, these
Speaker 13: types of opponents. You talk about the thirty nine ers,
Speaker 13: they got grit, and you talk about the Evils and
Speaker 13: obviously everybody else in our division they got great. And
Speaker 13: talk about the Panthers, they're hungry, Buffalo beat, Dolphins, beast,
Speaker 13: blind beast. All these guys are beasts. There's never a
Speaker 13: question about the resilience and the effort of these teams
Speaker 13: and the reporters that they're going to be facing. So
Speaker 13: you're gonna find out exactly who your two Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 13: are come this season. And I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 6: We love that we're looking forward to it too. Well,
Speaker 6: enjoy your morning. We're happy that you are a Stars
Speaker 6: fan with us.
Speaker 5: Now you can also you can also so helped me
Speaker 5: root for the Florida Panthers because that's my secondary team.
Speaker 7: So we don't second, we don't do that here, Yeah,
Speaker 7: we don't.
Speaker 6: The Obamba Scato's gang. We're not judgmental.
Speaker 1: We don't do that here.
Speaker 6: Isaiah, thanks so much for being with us this morning.
Speaker 6: We'll see you next week. I love Isaiah Man.
Speaker 5: He always brings such a different perspective and I love
Speaker 5: the idea too.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: You know, I wanted to ask his perspective on the
Speaker 5: player side of it too, and I love that his answer,
Speaker 5: you know, like it doesn't really matter.
Speaker 6: You got to show up and play every day.
Speaker 5: There's a certain level, a certain mentality that you have
Speaker 5: depending on certain games.
Speaker 6: But uh, good to have his perspective.
Speaker 4: All yeah, And that's that's something that we've heard from
Speaker 4: current players in the Dallas Cowboys organization speaking to them
Speaker 4: game by game. You talk about Dak Prescott and some
Speaker 4: of these guys who are your cool hand, Luke's in
Speaker 4: the room.
Speaker 1: No matter what happened.
Speaker 4: When law or lost that particular week last season, they
Speaker 4: were always it's on to next week. It's on to
Speaker 4: next week now. Obviously some lost the sting more than
Speaker 4: other others. Green Bay Checksonville and you could see that
Speaker 4: seething in guys like Dak Prescott, Cede Lamb and you know,
Speaker 4: going forward, Tony Potter, especially the defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 4: Layton Vandersh Michael Parsons, you talk about a guy who
Speaker 4: hates losing, But it doesn't matter who the opponent is.
Speaker 4: They're going to approach it the same way every week.
Speaker 4: They're going to prepare every week the same way. The
Speaker 4: only thing that would change is how big of a
Speaker 4: chip is on the shoulder.
Speaker 1: For the next week.
Speaker 4: Now, I will say this, Cowboys have a little bit
Speaker 4: of an issue with consistency, not nearly to the under
Speaker 4: the McCarthy era that they had under the Jason Garrett era,
Speaker 4: but they have shown they can play down to competition
Speaker 4: and that's why Green Bay happened, That's why the Jacksonville
Speaker 4: Jaguars games happened. If they can remain consistent and never
Speaker 4: play down, just always play like.
Speaker 1: You're playing the Alpha.
Speaker 4: Again, this is a thirteen, maybe even a fourteen win team,
Speaker 4: but it's not going to come easy. They're not rolling
Speaker 4: over any more than maybe one two at best the
Speaker 4: others to play.
Speaker 8: Look, if we're coming out of Week three two and
Speaker 8: one and they really stepped on Arizona and didn't play
Speaker 8: down to the competition in Arizona, yes, man, I'll feel good.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that's check. That's checking thember.
Speaker 1: I liked it.
Speaker 6: I liked it all right.
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Speaker 6: I want to talk.
Speaker 5: About some of these rookies I think we all knew
Speaker 5: coming into this year's or coming out of this year's draft,
Speaker 5: rather some guys who would maybe be impact players.
Speaker 6: You teased Mazzi a little bit earlier.
Speaker 5: I think over shown as a guy who we know
Speaker 5: is going to be a competitor, possibly Deuce Vaughn Nick.
Speaker 5: I want to open it up to you before. We
Speaker 5: kind of chat about it. We were at rookie camp
Speaker 5: this weekend. We had a chance to meet all of them.
Speaker 5: They're so excited, it's like first day of school. But
Speaker 5: your impressions on this rookie class and maybe a player
Speaker 5: drafted or undrafted that we should be paying attention to.
Speaker 8: Yeah, we talked about it right after the draft, the
Speaker 8: fact that they picked up guys on both sides of
Speaker 8: the ball.
Speaker 7: Around the ball, there's a guy at every.
Speaker 8: Position that I feel like could make a contribution at
Speaker 8: some point, whether it be during training camp, preseason, during
Speaker 8: the season, whatever. And we got to see that during
Speaker 8: Riocky Mini Camp and big emphasis on many because it
Speaker 8: was a little bit different.
Speaker 7: The ACMs kind of threw everything out of wag.
Speaker 8: Mike McCarthy was out because of a back procedure, so
Speaker 8: the coordinators were running everything. But it was as smooth
Speaker 8: as it possibly could have gone. And you know, we
Speaker 8: get to see these guys in action for probably thirty
Speaker 8: forty five minutes on Saturday, and it's it's kind of
Speaker 8: a tough environment to see if anybody's standing out, but
Speaker 8: you can look at the physical statue. You can look
Speaker 8: at and see how they're moving, and if we're talking
Speaker 8: about moving, you have to start the conversation with Duvan.
Speaker 8: Just because they were doing some change of direction drills
Speaker 8: and I was just I was evil laughing once again.
Speaker 7: It was it was.
Speaker 8: It was very fun exactly seeing him returning punts a
Speaker 8: little bit and I was like, Wow, this is this
Speaker 8: is fun. But I look at some undrafted guys. There
Speaker 8: were a couple that really did stick out to me.
Speaker 8: Jayalen moreno cropper out of Presno State, a wide receiver
Speaker 8: with a lot of speed that I think will really
Speaker 8: translate downfield. I think that's a guy that could definitely
Speaker 8: sneak onto a roster and make a contribution as early
Speaker 8: as year one. He's been really productive at Fresno State,
Speaker 8: eighty plus receptions in each of his last two seasons.
Speaker 7: And then Isaiah land.
Speaker 8: Bully shout out again big time, and there's some talk
Speaker 8: about him moving to inside linebacker, and whenever I saw that,
Speaker 8: I was absolutely thrilled, just because he is so athletic,
Speaker 8: He's had a long history of get into the backfield.
Speaker 8: But what I always wondered with him is can he
Speaker 8: take that next step physically and can he not be
Speaker 8: overwhelmed if he's trying to rush the passer every down,
Speaker 8: and so moving him back to inside linebacker, letting him
Speaker 8: really hone in on his athleticism rather and move space
Speaker 8: to space and cover sideline and sideline and still be
Speaker 8: able to crash into the backfield. That that I feel
Speaker 8: like might be his best chance. And then one more
Speaker 8: I want touch on his Hunter lip Key full back
Speaker 8: and he's talk about thrilled to be here. That's me
Speaker 8: and Mickey Spagnola got the building. He is he is
Speaker 8: and he's ready to do everything.
Speaker 7: He h you know. I asked him.
Speaker 8: I was like, hey, you know you're North Dakota State film,
Speaker 8: and you know it's got some Kyle use check to it.
Speaker 8: Just because you're lining up in the slot, you're lining
Speaker 8: up out wide, you're coming out of the backfield, you're blocking.
Speaker 8: You know, is that someone you you know look up
Speaker 8: to And he's like, you know, yeah, I watched them
Speaker 8: in used check film in his Wisconsin acient. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 8: I will watch them used check film. But I'm just
Speaker 8: really trying to be Hunter li Key. At the end
Speaker 8: of the day, I was, Oh, I like you.
Speaker 1: I like you. So he's got some receiving talent.
Speaker 4: And so when you ladies and gentlemen, you look at Hunter Lipken,
Speaker 4: you look at him on the on the depth chart
Speaker 4: and it says, f be next to him. You don't
Speaker 4: put him in the box of Oh, he's only here
Speaker 4: to block. The cowboys are really going to try to
Speaker 4: move him around. And you see they're kind of hamp
Speaker 4: leaning more heavily on versatility. Tony Pollard, he's versatile. Duce Vaughan,
Speaker 4: he's versatile. Rojo is your short yard is back. But
Speaker 4: they look for versatility. See Lamb can play all three spots,
Speaker 4: Brandon K. Cooks can play at least two. Maybe he'll
Speaker 4: be a small slot every once in a while, but
Speaker 4: they love it.
Speaker 1: So I think Lipke will stick.
Speaker 7: Let that FB stand for fluid back, not yeah like position.
Speaker 4: With that for me, I'm going to I'm going to
Speaker 4: circle back. And you know, obviously there are the big
Speaker 4: names and that's easy Mazie, Samith, tomarve On, Overshan, Luke
Speaker 4: Scoon Maker. Keep an eye on On Junior. They call
Speaker 4: him Junior Junior for Hoko. I said this after that pig.
Speaker 4: He is just violent. He wakes up every morning he
Speaker 4: chooses violence like he's Sarah cy Lanister.
Speaker 1: But for me, I'm going to look at Eric Scott.
Speaker 4: Looking at Eric Scott out of Southern miss There's a
Speaker 4: reason the Cowboys gave up a twenty twenty four fifth
Speaker 4: round pick to move up and select Scott at one
Speaker 4: seventy eight. Obviously, immediately the googlers went to work and
Speaker 4: they saying, oh, well, four to seven two, Uh, what
Speaker 4: are we doing.
Speaker 1: Trading for four to seven two?
Speaker 4: This guy jumped almost a forty inch vertical, kind of
Speaker 4: tweaked his quad doing that, and chose to still run
Speaker 4: the forty.
Speaker 6: And then we got updated film.
Speaker 4: And then we got updated film and Will McClain Stephen
Speaker 4: Jones then confirmed that not only did the Cowboys get
Speaker 4: more data on him after the fact, but it said
Speaker 4: and confirmed that he ran sub for four at one
Speaker 4: point four two nine forty on a fully healthy quad.
Speaker 4: I'm going to tell you right now, first and foremost,
Speaker 4: if I tweak my quad right now, not only am
Speaker 4: I not running the forty, I'm not running to the refrigerator. Okay,
Speaker 4: So lit'sten the inhumane athlete first and foremost so the
Speaker 4: fact that he ran a sub four to eight with
Speaker 4: a tweaked hamstring after he's Oh my god. But if
Speaker 4: you look at his film, not a lot is known
Speaker 4: about Eric Scott, but when you look at it, he
Speaker 4: does have room to grow, which is why he was
Speaker 4: a six round pick. But what he does show, he
Speaker 4: shows in spades. He can take the ball away. He
Speaker 4: just needs to get there quicker. He needs to be
Speaker 4: able to trust his eyes and his instincts more. Once
Speaker 4: he starts over things, that's when he loses a step.
Speaker 4: When you lose a step in the NFL, you already lost.
Speaker 4: You've already lost. But he has the length. He's prototypical.
Speaker 4: And when you talk to Will McLean. We talked to
Speaker 4: Steven and Will in a couple of post conferences, particularly
Speaker 4: Will McClay, he lights up.
Speaker 1: Talking about this camp. He lights up talking about Eric Scott.
Speaker 4: And I don't know about you, but if Will McClay
Speaker 4: lights up talking about someone, is somebody you should probably
Speaker 4: pay attention to.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Typically with a speed dB you sacrifice physicality. It's for
Speaker 8: some reason. You just get one or the other, and
Speaker 8: he has both and they're both at an adequate level
Speaker 8: to where you can develop that and get him to
Speaker 8: a position where he could be you know, a Deron
Speaker 8: Bland type of impact he last year. I'm not saying
Speaker 8: he's going to be, but you have that type, you
Speaker 8: have those traits. You have those traits because you have
Speaker 8: the speed, you have the physicality. It's just about ramping it.
Speaker 1: Up for him. It's just refinement.
Speaker 4: It's refinement for him, and that makes sense because he's
Speaker 4: a sixth rounder. But this is against someone I say
Speaker 4: keep an eye on because I think that he has
Speaker 4: the potential. We'll see how it goes in OTAs and
Speaker 4: training camp and preseason, but Eric Scott has the potential
Speaker 4: to not only make the roster, but make a couple
Speaker 4: of waves as early as this coming season.
Speaker 6: I like everybody you guys just talked about.
Speaker 5: My favorite part of this process, and this is why
Speaker 5: I love doing the job that we do, is because
Speaker 5: you get an opportunity to get to know these guys.
Speaker 6: Were some of the first people.
Speaker 5: That they get to know just from a professional football standpoint,
Speaker 5: and so I love the opportunity getting to know these
Speaker 5: rookies and.
Speaker 6: You know, kind of helping them on their way.
Speaker 5: You mentioned Junior Foko and how he wakes up and
Speaker 5: chooses violence every day. I love that you said that
Speaker 5: because when he's not on the field, he's opposite of that.
Speaker 5: When I got an opportunity to talk to him in
Speaker 5: the locker room on the first day of rookie Minni camp,
Speaker 5: you know, he came over and I mentioned like, oh,
Speaker 5: you get to talk to me before you have to
Speaker 5: talk in the big media scrum.
Speaker 6: And he was like, I have to talk over there.
Speaker 6: And I was like, I was like, yeah, but it's cool.
Speaker 6: We're going to practice.
Speaker 5: You're gonna be like, they're not going to ask you
Speaker 5: anything crazy and we're going to prepare. And so just
Speaker 5: getting to know him, getting to know like just how
Speaker 5: kind of not quite soft spoken, but just.
Speaker 6: You know he it's opposite.
Speaker 5: So it's even crazier when he gets on the football
Speaker 5: field and you see how he's attacking.
Speaker 6: You know, the dummies, like it's a crazy flip.
Speaker 5: But what I'll say about Isaiah Land, you know he's tall, right,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 6: He's a big body.
Speaker 5: Six five two fifteen is what he is on paper.
Speaker 5: He looks that way for the most part when you
Speaker 5: see him. But when he was out at practice on
Speaker 5: Saturday in his pads.
Speaker 7: I agree, I was like, who is that?
Speaker 5: He is massive looking on the field and so for
Speaker 5: him to be able to.
Speaker 6: Move as well as he does.
Speaker 5: You talked about him shifting inside to insidelnebacker, Like that's
Speaker 5: terrifying to me because you know, again like he's a
Speaker 5: big body. You see him, he looks big, but you
Speaker 5: put him in football pads and he's out.
Speaker 6: There, you know, actually playing.
Speaker 5: He's a guy to me that I am willing onto
Speaker 5: this fifty three because I think he can be a
Speaker 5: guy who learns under a Layton Vanderreesh, very similar to
Speaker 5: what Demone Clark went through last year. I think he
Speaker 5: can also learn some things from Michael Parsons. He talked
Speaker 5: about wanting to improve on his rushing ability. So I think,
Speaker 5: now you've got a Michaeh. Parsons who is floating back
Speaker 5: and forth playing whatever position Michael Parsons wants to play.
Speaker 5: So I think that he will also be a good
Speaker 5: kid on this roster that I hope makes the fifty
Speaker 5: three as well.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm with you, and I think it's really interesting
Speaker 8: how he came on to the roster. Will McClay talked
Speaker 8: about how they were watching Marquise Bell this time last
Speaker 8: year and they see this edge rusher that accounted for
Speaker 8: twenty sacks and twenty five and a half tackles for lost.
Speaker 7: Back to the year from me came back around. You
Speaker 7: got Marquise Bell on the roster.
Speaker 8: You've had a lot of zoom meetings with Isaiah lan
Speaker 8: since then, and then when he went undrafted, it was
Speaker 8: almost immediate that.
Speaker 7: He was on the tap.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he was one of the first guys.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that really helps.
Speaker 6: All right, that's rookie talk. Patrick.
Speaker 5: I know you had a question for us as we
Speaker 5: wrap up this show, so fired at us.
Speaker 4: Just just a quick question again, circling back to the schedule.
Speaker 4: We talk about how challenging it is front to back,
Speaker 4: top to bottom. But I pose the question to both
Speaker 4: of you, which is the singular most difficult game that
Speaker 4: you see right now before the offseason finishes playing out.
Speaker 8: I'm going to start us off here, Okay, love that
Speaker 8: that here. You have a lot of options, you do
Speaker 8: have a lot of additions. I think I'm going to
Speaker 8: go at Buffalo just because it's December seventeenth and Buffalo,
Speaker 8: New York. That's point A, point B. That offense is
Speaker 8: going to be humming by then. You're coming off a
Speaker 8: Philadelphia game a Sunday night Philadelphia game. Traveling to Buffalo
Speaker 8: has been a little difficult in the past as well,
Speaker 8: so I think that's one where if they come out
Speaker 8: of Buffalo with a win in what is expected to
Speaker 8: be negative temperatures, probably in snow, and whatever else could
Speaker 8: could go down in that game, you're looking pretty good
Speaker 8: going into the rest of the schedule. Whether you lose
Speaker 8: at Philly or lose two Philly or not.
Speaker 5: I'm going to go the game before that Philly home game,
Speaker 5: and here's why we talked about getting a fast start
Speaker 5: at the beginning of the season.
Speaker 6: That's going to be your tone setter. So depending on
Speaker 6: how that goes, Let's say let's say they do really well.
Speaker 6: Let's say they go.
Speaker 5: Four and two in that math is hard, but regardless,
Speaker 5: let's say they do really well in that first stretch
Speaker 5: that we talked about, Right, you come back from the
Speaker 5: bye week, you've got the Rams, and then you're at Philly.
Speaker 5: We talked about the challenging stretches of that NFC showdown.
Speaker 5: In those three out of the four games, you're coming
Speaker 5: off of a Thursday night game against Seattle, so that's
Speaker 5: a primetime game against the competitor who is going to
Speaker 5: give you their all right the second time seeing them,
Speaker 5: especially after the preseason. To me, that Philadelphia game it's
Speaker 5: the make or break game because depending on what you
Speaker 5: did the first time around at Philly the two times
Speaker 5: as you've already faced the Giants and Washington again, that game,
Speaker 5: to me feels like it's going to shape up the
Speaker 5: way this year's Christmas Game, or I guess last year's
Speaker 5: Christmas game.
Speaker 6: Did with the Eagles.
Speaker 5: That was like it was a big game because it
Speaker 5: was the Eagles, but it was also the Cowboys opportunity
Speaker 5: to stay in the hunt for the NFC East, and
Speaker 5: so I do think physically.
Speaker 6: Buffalo will be challenging.
Speaker 5: I think that Eagles game has more implications in terms
Speaker 5: of what the way that the NFC East could shape out.
Speaker 4: I do agree with you there. I think that might
Speaker 4: be the most pivotal one. And I have proof here
Speaker 4: because I put a star next to it. I agree
Speaker 4: with Nick. The most challenging to me is Buffalo at
Speaker 4: Buffalo Buffalo in December. I mean that winter in Buffalo
Speaker 4: and Josh Allen and that offense is going to be humting,
Speaker 4: that defense is going to be humting.
Speaker 1: That that's just going to be a lights out challenge.
Speaker 4: For the Dallas Cowboys to march into Buffalo, into that
Speaker 4: stadium with Buffalo, with Bill's mafia, you know, jumping through
Speaker 4: tables and just going nuts. And of course they're already
Speaker 4: leveled up, they're maxed out just by default.
Speaker 1: But now you also have the Cowboys coming to town.
Speaker 4: I think that that crowded audience, theyre going to find
Speaker 4: another gear and the team they're going to feed off
Speaker 4: of that, and Buffalo is going to be the most
Speaker 4: challenging one for me.
Speaker 6: All right, well you have it.
Speaker 4: But if you go you go to the Buffalo and
Speaker 4: you win that game, you just told me in that
Speaker 4: instance that you can make.
Speaker 1: A playoff run.
Speaker 6: Well we will see.
Speaker 5: Obviously you've got so much time until this season starts.
Speaker 5: But that'll do it for talking Cowboys today. Thanks for
Speaker 5: letting me talk with you guys.
Speaker 7: I think we get you again next week, don't we We?
Speaker 5: Yes, I will be here next week as Kyle finishes
Speaker 5: up his honeymoon. So again, we are so excited for Kyle.
Speaker 5: I'm excited to get to chat with you guys. I
Speaker 5: never really get to do this on air, so exciting stuff,
Speaker 5: and we will do it again next Tuesday.
Speaker 1: Yeah we will.
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