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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody.

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Speaker 2: Friday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show,

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Speaker 2: known to many as Clay and Buck. Some people are saying,

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Speaker 2: we have a lot to discuss today. We have more

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Speaker 2: updates on Iran, of course, on the Democrats mobilizing against Ice.

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Speaker 2: I got a text from somebody at LGA Laguardi Airport.

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Speaker 2: Lines are open there looking just fine. So depends where

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Speaker 2: you are. More on the TSA DHS funding fight. Got

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Speaker 2: speaker Johnson getting hot under the collar about that whole thing, understandably, so.

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Speaker 1: So that's where we.

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Speaker 2: Are, and they're trying to find ways to blame Trump

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Speaker 2: for it. Not a surprise, and there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: other things. It's a Friday, so the show is going

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Speaker 2: to be kind of a little at hoc, a little extemp,

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Speaker 2: a little bit of a wild ride. So that's probably

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Speaker 2: a good way to introduce our first segments of the day.

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Speaker 2: Trump called in to The Five, the program on Fox

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Speaker 2: News with five people makes Sense who sit around and

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Speaker 2: talk about the news of the day, and Jesse Waters

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Speaker 2: asked a question that perhaps some Americans were thinking about before.

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Speaker 2: He wanted to know about this Ayatola or Iotola Junior

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Speaker 2: mujtaba little Mo, as Clay has declared him and Jesse

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Speaker 2: mister Waters at Fox asked Trump the following, I want

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Speaker 2: you to listen in to our commander in chief.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead.

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Speaker 2: Did the CIA tell you that Iyotola Junior's gay?

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Speaker 3: Well, they did say that, but I don't know it

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Speaker 3: was only them. I think a lot of people are

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Speaker 3: saying that, which puts them off to a bad start

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Speaker 3: in that particular country. You know, I sort of have

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Speaker 3: to smile to myself when I say, I see people

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Speaker 3: trying to defend the Palestinian regime for women, women for Palestine,

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Speaker 3: but they kill women. If you don't don't wear certain

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Speaker 3: cloths all over your face, you have no chance of living.

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Speaker 3: And you know when I look at gays for Palasine,

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Speaker 3: but they kill gays, They kill him instantly, they throw

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Speaker 3: them up buildings. And I'm saying, who are the gays

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Speaker 3: for palaces?

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Speaker 2: Fair question We've asked your other program, Clay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Look, we still have not heard from Little Mo, the

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Speaker 4: ostensible leader of the of the Iran again. The reports

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Speaker 4: are that he's severely injured, that he barely escaped death

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Speaker 4: in the in the attack. We have not seen him

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Speaker 4: on video. We've not seen any sort of written statement.

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Speaker 4: We've only seen written statements. We haven't even heard audio.

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Speaker 4: And look, the continued negotiations that are underway for what

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Speaker 4: a cease fire will ultimately look like in Iran are

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Speaker 4: occurring in earnest and again, to me, it feels like

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Speaker 4: we have largely wiped Iran's military capabilities out, and now

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Speaker 4: the question is to what extent can we decide that

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Speaker 4: we're okay with a ruler that we're.

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Speaker 1: Going to negotiate with.

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Speaker 4: And Buck, We've talked about this on the program quite

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Speaker 4: a bit, and I would just continue to echo it.

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Speaker 4: Everything is going really really well in Venezuela, and I

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Speaker 4: believe that's because Delse Rodriguez has been someone that the

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Speaker 4: United States feels like they can have a partnership with.

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Speaker 4: Is there anyone in Iran that the United States could

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Speaker 4: become convinced that we can have a partnership with. I

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Speaker 4: don't know the answer. I suspect that is the biggest

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Speaker 4: challenge that is going on right now is trying to

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Speaker 4: figure out who is the leader that we could work with. Yes,

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Speaker 4: they're probably still going to have to say America stinks

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Speaker 4: and death to America and all of these aspects.

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Speaker 1: But the reality is that's the.

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Speaker 4: Biggest question I would say right now is who is

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Speaker 4: that leader that we could work with. And by the way,

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Speaker 4: we should also mention, in addition to President Trump calling

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Speaker 4: into the Five and we got a bunch of clips

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Speaker 4: from that, there does seem to be some positive momentum

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Speaker 4: on TSA agents being paid. It's a huge mess. Trump

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Speaker 4: said he would use as emergency powers to do it.

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Speaker 4: I suspect the Democrats would have challenged those emergency powers,

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Speaker 4: but there was a bill passed at three am this

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Speaker 4: morning that, in theory, is going to get TSA agents paid.

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Speaker 4: The That is the absolute latest there as we are

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Speaker 4: working through those two biggest stories I would say so far.

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Speaker 2: Also, Trump, not only noting that the CIA told him

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Speaker 2: much Keba is probably gay or maybe gay, Trump wants

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Speaker 2: everyone to remember he actually did quite well with the

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Speaker 2: gay vote.

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Speaker 1: This was also from the Five Play two.

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Speaker 3: I did very well with the gay vote.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 3: I even played the gay national anthem as my walk off, okay,

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Speaker 3: and I think it probably helped me. But I did

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Speaker 3: great with no Republicans ever gotten the gay vote like

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Speaker 3: I did. And I'm very proud of it. I think

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Speaker 3: it's great. Perhaps it's because I'm from New York City,

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: It is interesting that the two I believe highest ranking

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Speaker 4: cabinet members who are gay in the history. I mean,

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Speaker 4: and again, I don't care about whose people, what people's

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Speaker 4: sexuality is. I care whether or not they're going to

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Speaker 4: do a good job.

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Speaker 2: Trump was basically like much Tama was gay. Not that

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Speaker 2: there's anything wrong.

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Speaker 1: With that's right.

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Speaker 4: That's exactly what he was saying. For those of you

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Speaker 4: who are old school Seinfeld fans, that was one of

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Speaker 4: the great Jerry and George conversations back in the day.

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Speaker 4: Scott Passant is I believe the highest ranking official who

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Speaker 4: is gay who happens to be gay in the history

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Speaker 4: of the United States, and as Treasury Secretary, it seems

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Speaker 4: to me that he's done a pretty phenomenal job, but

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Speaker 4: his sexuality is not that important to his ability to

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Speaker 4: do the job. Now, as we're talking about gay people,

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Speaker 4: my good friend and your good friend, Mayor Pete. Every

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Speaker 4: time I see a pullbuck on Democrat twenty twenty eight

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Speaker 4: presidential contenders, Mayor Pete is either getting one, two percent

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Speaker 4: or zero percent support from the black community. It is

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Speaker 4: the case that while Democrats like to accuse Republicans of

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Speaker 4: being homophobic, the reality is the most anti gay element

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Speaker 4: of any political coalition right now in the United States,

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Speaker 4: black guys are not voting for gay people, and Mayor

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Speaker 4: Pete has no chance to get the black vote at all.

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Speaker 4: And every time you look at the numbers, white people

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Speaker 4: love Mayor Pete. Mayor Pete's going to do great in Iowa,

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Speaker 4: He's gonna do great in New Hampshire, and then he's

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Speaker 4: gonna get down to the South where lots of black

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Speaker 4: voters are part of the primary season, and he's going

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Speaker 4: to get no votes in South Carolina, no votes in Tennessee,

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Speaker 4: no votes in Alabama, Georgia, all these different states that

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Speaker 4: are significant when it comes to propelling the eventual Democrat

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Speaker 4: nominee to that nomination. So I it is funny when

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Speaker 4: you just think about it, and we'll see what ends

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Speaker 4: up happening as the twenty twenty eight aspects start to

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Speaker 4: play out. But again, while Trump gets accused of being homophobic,

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Speaker 4: the actual data reflects that the most homophobic part of

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Speaker 4: any political party is actually black voters.

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Speaker 2: And now we have Trump also addressing from that call

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Speaker 2: into the five, addressing two things really. One is the

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Speaker 2: the Democrats clearly want things in Iran to go badly

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Speaker 2: and that has not happened in the way that they

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Speaker 2: would like to, which is a is a bleak thing

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Speaker 2: to say, but it is a true thing to say. Also,

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Speaker 2: they want to feel like there's a maga civil war

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Speaker 2: underway where Trump's base is fleeing from him over this.

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Speaker 2: If that were happening, we would know, Clay and I

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Speaker 2: would know, because you would tell us, because you are

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Speaker 2: overwhelmingly maga bass, not all of you. Some of you

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Speaker 2: are Democrats, not that there's anything wrong with that, but

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Speaker 2: generally we have a very maga bass here and I'm

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Speaker 2: not getting a lot and you're not getting all play right,

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Speaker 2: even offline, off the show of people, Trump is saying, Look,

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Speaker 2: I'm not bothered by any of this. This is cut three.

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Speaker 2: Trump is claiming He's like, I think I'm more popular

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Speaker 2: with Republicans with the base than I've ever been, playing with.

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Speaker 3: Most powerful military nation in the world. And we did

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Speaker 3: a big number on him. And are people like it

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Speaker 3: because they don't want to see us? Think of one

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Speaker 3: hundred in a CNN poll. A CNN poll, which are

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Speaker 3: the worst polls almost as bad as Fox polls.

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Speaker 5: I hate Fox Pole as well.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, whoever does your polls are terrible? But uh, very popular,

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Speaker 3: I mean, what can they say. MAGA loves the fact

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Speaker 3: that they're not going to have somebody with a nuclear

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Speaker 3: bomb over the head. I think I'm more popular than

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Speaker 3: I ever have been. Look when he heard one hundred percent,

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Speaker 3: he said, I've never seen a Paul like this is

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Speaker 3: the craziest Paul I've ever seen. It was one hundred

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Speaker 3: percent of the people. And the reason is they like

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Speaker 3: that I'm protecting our country from lunatics with a nuclear weapon.

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Speaker 2: All all they're laid out by Trump himself. Clay, he

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Speaker 2: doesn't sound concerned at all about any loss of support

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Speaker 2: over what's going on in Iran. And as I was saying,

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Speaker 2: I don't think you and I have felt that there's

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Speaker 2: any loss of support in large numbers, I mean, maybe

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Speaker 2: ten percent of MAGA has some concerns, but it's not

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Speaker 2: this thing that is a cleavage in the overall America

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Speaker 2: First movement that Democrats have been trying to push and

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Speaker 2: some people on the right are trying to push.

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Speaker 4: I think in many cases it's important to remember what

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Speaker 4: social me media likes and what the real world likes,

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Speaker 4: and very often those are profoundly different. And I think

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Speaker 4: it's one of the reasons that the Democrat Party has

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Speaker 4: I think that Republicans have to be careful in recognizing

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Speaker 4: when people are representing the larger coalition right of the

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Speaker 4: Republican Party and when they are doing things that are

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Speaker 4: very popular online that do not translate off of it,

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Speaker 4: legacy media has been trying for a decade to argue, Oh,

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump has lost his base. Oh, Donald Trump is

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Speaker 4: never going to be able to recover from this. His

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Speaker 4: base is not with him. That's virtually never happened. The

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Speaker 4: only thing I could even think of that has been

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Speaker 4: a challenge to Trump is his administration's candidly swinging amiss

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Speaker 4: with a lot of the way that they handled the

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Speaker 4: Epstein case. And other than that, I've never really seen

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Speaker 4: any sort of negativity from the actual Trump base. I

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Speaker 4: think that's a perfect example, or rather that that goes

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Speaker 4: right in the the evidence file of there isn't some

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Speaker 4: anger in the MAGA base, because when that happened, we

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Speaker 4: had lift phone lines the whole show upset about it,

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Speaker 4: and people were saying, rightly so with the influencer thing

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Speaker 4: and the binders and the Epstein files and all that,

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Speaker 4: people were like, this is not what was promised, this

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Speaker 4: is clown show.

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Speaker 1: We're unhappy.

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Speaker 2: I would say the calls in support, and I know

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Speaker 2: this isn't a scientific poll, but basing it on what

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Speaker 2: we see here day in and day out, and what

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Speaker 2: the team is picking up from all of you, ten

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Speaker 2: to one, it's really more ten to one trust that

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Speaker 2: Trump will make the right decisions to see this Ron

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Speaker 2: situation through. They're not even getting into the specifics of oh,

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Speaker 2: should we take carg Island or not?

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Speaker 5: Or no. No.

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Speaker 2: They think that Trump is going to see this through

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Speaker 2: appropriately in the interest of the American people, and they

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Speaker 2: are not overly concerned that there's going to be some

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Speaker 2: huge blowback from this or anything else. I think that's

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Speaker 2: what we've picked up. It's certainly what Trump says he's

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Speaker 2: seeing in all of this. So some interesting interesting tidbits

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Speaker 2: offered up there from his call in to the Five,

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Speaker 4: So that seems, by the way, maybe it was not

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Speaker 2: So we've got much discussed here. And the situation of

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Speaker 7: For making clear that no one is above the law

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Speaker 2: Abolish ICE, I mean, so we won't have an enforcement

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Speaker 4: my feed this morning that I saw which was pointing

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Speaker 4: out everything that Democrats said in the nineties about how

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Speaker 4: awful of legal immigration was.

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Speaker 2: I remember Bill Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton were a nation

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Speaker 2: of immigrants, but were also a nation of laws. Chuck Schumer,

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Speaker 2: the border is wide open. This is a disgrace. You

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Speaker 2: go down the line Democrats all this is how they

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Speaker 2: yousul This is how we got to this point. They

443
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Speaker 2: just lied to everybody for a long time about this,

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Speaker 2: that they actually wanted the border to be secure. And

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Speaker 2: you can go back and find the New York Times

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Speaker 2: editorial board not an editorial writer in two thousand writing

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Speaker 2: about how get ready for this.

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Speaker 1: Everybody.

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Speaker 2: Illegal immigration, particularly in areas where there are concentrations of

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Speaker 2: illegal immigrants, particularly suppressed is the wages of black Americans.

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Speaker 2: That was the New York Times in two thousand. They

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Speaker 2: were saying, there is a disproportionate impact from illegals on

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Speaker 2: members of the black community in this country. Are fellow

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Speaker 2: Americans who are trying to earn a living, pay their bills,

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Speaker 2: do everything else. And the New York Times is saying,

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Speaker 2: we got to get a hold on this because it's

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Speaker 2: not fair to Black Americans.

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Speaker 1: Now, you fast.

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Speaker 2: Forward a couple of decades, and you don't want ten

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Speaker 2: million randoms from all over the world piling into this

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Speaker 2: country pretending their asylum seekers when they're not. They're not

462
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Speaker 2: going to get asylum. They're not going to show up

463
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Speaker 2: for their asylum hearings. They're not going to be deported

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Speaker 2: Clay even if they're denied asylum because Democrats make it

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Speaker 2: as hard, if not impossible, as they can. It's completely insane.

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Speaker 2: They have gone crazy on this issue. Yes, no other country,

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Speaker 2: and you know they pull into other countries. They're saying, look,

468
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Speaker 2: we should have like the working hours of France. They

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Speaker 2: all sit around with scarves on and berets.

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Speaker 1: And it actually sounds kind of nice right now, you

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Speaker 1: Becke's but you know, look at France. They do this

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Speaker 1: with everything.

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Speaker 2: No other country in the world has the kind of

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Speaker 2: open borders that we do. Even European countries have not

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Speaker 2: been like like what we saw under Biden ten million

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Speaker 2: and four years unprecedented.

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Speaker 4: Well, and again I just come back to they break budgets.

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Speaker 4: They largely especially depending on what country they're from, but

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Speaker 4: many of them do not embrace Western civilizational values. They

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Speaker 4: are not overall assets to the country. And again, if

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Speaker 4: we want to have a real conversation about what the

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Speaker 4: legal immigration rate should be in the country, that's a

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Speaker 4: really interesting question. Right if we go truly and are

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Speaker 4: taking people who are incredible intellectual, educational assets, and they're

485
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Speaker 4: going to come here and they're going to start jobs,

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Speaker 4: start jobs, start new businesses, everything else, take advantage of

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Speaker 4: the systems that exist in America. What was the percentage

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Speaker 4: of Somalian illegal Somalian legal immigrants in Minnesota, Buck that

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Speaker 4: was that were on welfare? Wasn't it eighty percent? Eighty

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Speaker 4: percent of Somali immigrants these are legal immigrants in Minnesota,

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Speaker 4: eighty percent of them immediately go on welfare. And we're

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Speaker 4: talking multi generational eighty percent. How does that in any

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Speaker 4: way make America better. First of all, it's illegal. You

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Speaker 4: should never be able to come to this country and

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Speaker 4: immediately go on welfare. That's a sign that our immigration

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Speaker 4: system has failed, because we're supposed to be taking people

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Speaker 4: who can contribute to American life, not act as leeches

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Speaker 4: effectively on American life. Not show up here and immediately

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Speaker 4: take your taxpayer dollars to support people that are not

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Speaker 4: born American citizens, particularly when we don't have the resources

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Speaker 4: to take care of everyone in America in a way

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Speaker 4: that Democrats would like. I don't even understand how Democrat

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Speaker 4: voters can support giving all these benefits to illegal immigrants

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Speaker 4: when there are people who are American citizens that aren't

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Speaker 4: getting the resources.

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Speaker 1: They would will to have.

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Speaker 2: You have to remember, though, what the propaganda has been

508
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Speaker 2: for a long time about illegals in this country. We're

509
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Speaker 2: told they commit less crimes and we do, which is lie,

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Speaker 2: by the way, than the average American. I also would

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Speaker 2: point out I don't care because we're Americans, they're not.

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Speaker 1: And also, by the.

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Speaker 4: Way, that their rate of violent crime should be zero, right,

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Speaker 4: I mean, so the fact the argument of they do

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Speaker 4: crimes at lower levels, well, how about their crime should

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Speaker 4: be zero?

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Speaker 1: Because they should have been here.

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Speaker 2: It's it's remarkable. And then the other thing is doing

519
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Speaker 2: the jobs Americans won't do. Really, the illegal propaganda for

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Speaker 2: a long time from the Democrat media industrial complex was

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Speaker 2: that illegals are better than other legal immigrants, mind you, yes,

522
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Speaker 2: and certainly better than lazy, coddled Americans. That was our

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Speaker 2: own media for a long time, doing the jobs we

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Speaker 2: won't do. Remember that, Oh yeah, that's been an argument

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Speaker 2: for a long time. They'll do the jobs we won't

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Speaker 2: do if they're paid under the table, off the books,

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Speaker 2: because they aren't supposed to be here, and they're often

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Speaker 2: exploited by these labor practices.

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Speaker 1: The whole thing this is but it's so insulting.

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Speaker 2: The whole thing is so so the argument in favor

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Speaker 2: of the illegals was that they're easier for unscrupulous business

532
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Speaker 2: owners or you know, business people to exploit.

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Speaker 1: You know, they won't complain.

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Speaker 2: To OSHA at the chicken processing or the meat processing plants,

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Speaker 2: so they're better.

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Speaker 1: Than we are. No, that's actually not how this should

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Speaker 1: be viewed at all.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's also buck you could take the logical extension

539
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Speaker 4: of that, you know, who would be even cheaper slaves. Right, Like,

540
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Speaker 4: at some point if you're not paying people fair wages

541
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Speaker 4: and you're saying, well, Americans won't do these jobs. Yeah,

542
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Speaker 4: they won't work for slave slave labor wages.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 4: So this is an argument for the percentage of Americans

545
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Speaker 4: that are not working right now, which is not insubstantial.

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Speaker 4: A lot of people are on the sidelines. If we

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Speaker 4: had a functional American economy that paid everybody what fair

548
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Speaker 4: wages would be, then we'd have a lot more Americans

549
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Speaker 4: coming off the sidelines.

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Speaker 1: I think to work, I really do. It's amazing.

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Speaker 2: Also, they've tried to convince the American people that the

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Speaker 2: laws of supply and demand are somehow frozen when it

553
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Speaker 2: comes to illegals in the labor market and every other thing.

554
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Speaker 2: We can all recognize there's more of a thing, you know,

555
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Speaker 2: that there's more buyers than sellers, if there's more product

556
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Speaker 2: than there is demand. All these effects price, These affect

557
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Speaker 2: the wages and everything else.

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Speaker 1: And yet with this.

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Speaker 2: We're told you can have all these people who are

560
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Speaker 2: brought into the country and specifically go into usually unskilled trade,

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Speaker 2: certain parts of the labor pool, and it's not going

562
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Speaker 2: to affect the price. Millions of people it's not going

563
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Speaker 2: to affect the price that business owners can pay. If

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Speaker 2: that were the case, why do we have so many

565
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Speaker 2: people that only want to hire illegals, for example in

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Speaker 2: the meat processing plants things like that. By the way,

567
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Speaker 2: it reminds you of the H one B scam. Scam

568
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Speaker 2: overwhelmingly a scam, and even Elon Elon was you know,

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Speaker 2: I have a tremendous amount of respect for Elon Clay.

570
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Speaker 2: Elon was dead wrong on this. The veig Ramaswami was

571
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Speaker 2: dead wrong on this in a way that has really

572
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 2: continued to haunt him politically. I know he's running for

573
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Speaker 2: governor in Ohio. Wrong on this issue because what it

574
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Speaker 2: turned into was sort of a cartel of particularly Indians

575
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 2: coming here hiring other Indians, underpaying people because they can't

576
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Speaker 2: go anywhere, but they get the chain migration benefit, they

577
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 2: get to skip to the front of the line. We're

578
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Speaker 2: staying here forever, so they're willing to take twenty percent

579
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Speaker 2: less wages. It's not because the H one b's are

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Speaker 2: all geniuses.

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Speaker 4: I would also point out one other thing that is

582
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Speaker 4: not getting a lot of attention. You know, what's starting

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Speaker 4: to happen in many different cities across America, the overall

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Speaker 4: rents are collapsing. I was looking at a graphic buck

585
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Speaker 4: two days ago. Many of our red state super popular cities, Austin, Nashville,

586
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Speaker 4: many of your cities in Florida.

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Speaker 1: People were so overwhelmed.

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Speaker 4: About the fact that during the Biden era the overall

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Speaker 4: rent rates skyrocketed. For many of you, and a lot

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Speaker 4: of you out there that rent know exactly what I'm

591
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 4: talking about. Go look at the data. Since we have

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Speaker 4: started to take illegals out of the country, look at

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Speaker 4: how much rent have started to come back down. Why

594
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Speaker 4: would that be, Oh, because the people who were illegally

595
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Speaker 4: here are not taking up as much of the housing.

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Speaker 1: And roles I want.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Are you suggesting that supply and demand also affects

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Speaker 2: housing and not just the labor market.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 4: This is actually where Democrats played supremely dumb with JD.

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Speaker 1: Vance.

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Speaker 4: You remember with Tim Walls when he said, if we

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Speaker 4: have less illegal immigrants, the overall cost of housing, rent,

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Speaker 4: and purchase will decline. And they said, what are you

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Speaker 4: basing that on? And the answer is supply and demand,

607
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Speaker 4: like the most basic of all economic rules, and it's

608
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Speaker 4: starting to have a pretty significant impact if you got

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Speaker 4: young kids, if you yourself are responsible for renting, you're

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Speaker 4: seeing those numbers come back down a big waye people,

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Speaker 4: a lot of people getting three months, a lot of

612
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Speaker 4: people getting two three hundred dollars off compared to what

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Speaker 4: they used to pay in rent. The markets are getting

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Speaker 4: better as the number of illegals are declining.

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Speaker 5: don't think you guys have your finger quite on the

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Speaker 5: pulse of some of the concerns we have as trumporters. Affordability.

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Speaker 5: I moved from Staten Island down South Carolina, paid a

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Speaker 5: ton less in real estate taxes, but we're being hit

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Speaker 5: with insurance. That's crazy, utility costs with peak hours six

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Speaker 5: am to nine am, where seventy percent of your utility

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Speaker 5: bills from these peak hours. I'd love to see Trump

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Speaker 5: declare warre on the insurance companies. You can't spend a

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Speaker 5: billion on marketing, you know, don't have commercials every two

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Speaker 5: minutes that bring the premiums down. The affordability piece, I think,

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Speaker 5: is one where the farm policy is great, but I'm

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Speaker 5: hurting in the pocket.

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Speaker 4: Thank thank you for the call, and I respect and

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Speaker 4: understand that, which is why Buck, I've been saying affordability.

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Speaker 4: The economy is ultimately going to be the deciding factor.

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Speaker 4: You sign on to that too for the midterms. We'll

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Speaker 4: talk about it next