Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're getting our clocks set
Speaker 1: to Greenwich Meantime.
Speaker 2: It's Greg Rosenthal.
Speaker 1: I'm here in the Chris Westling podcast studio, and I'm
Speaker 1: with my friends Colleen Wolf and Jordan Rodrigue of the Athletic.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of games over there in Europe this year.
Speaker 3: That's what you just had to google.
Speaker 1: They were announced. Yeah, what is the time zone in London?
Speaker 1: Because there's a lot of games there at the Dublin
Speaker 1: and London and we've got we've got.
Speaker 4: Six games over in Europe. What's it called Greenwich meantime?
Speaker 4: Is there Greenwich nice time?
Speaker 1: British summertime is another fun one. And yeah, people will
Speaker 1: point out, well they're not all in London, yes, but
Speaker 1: for us over here Stateside, they're all at the same time,
Speaker 1: which is six thirty am Pacific time, which means Colleen
Speaker 1: will be hosting the pregame show and has to be
Speaker 1: at work when I.
Speaker 5: Think that show starts at four am Pacific, so it's
Speaker 5: like a two am call time.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 3: That's for ZIL game. That's eight point fifteen Eastern.
Speaker 5: Good call's so a little different. That is slash that
Speaker 5: is games all over the place.
Speaker 2: That's the first weekend of the year.
Speaker 1: That was actually the one game that has not been
Speaker 1: announced as of this taping. We're taping Tuesday, although it's
Speaker 1: been reported pretty widely that it's going to be Chiefs Chargers.
Speaker 1: So sometimes those reports are wrong, but usually they're right,
Speaker 1: so we'll see. But yes, the International Games were announced,
Speaker 1: the kickoff game was announced. We have news we're going
Speaker 1: to do a new segment, a little would you rather
Speaker 1: type of segment, And we also had time before the
Speaker 1: show to catch up on our own lives and have
Speaker 1: a relationship that isn't just about talking on camera, which
Speaker 1: I think is nourishing Jordan.
Speaker 4: Yes, as Colleen so eloquently put it, the whole greeting
Speaker 4: each other, doing the talking.
Speaker 3: Thing, small talk, I said, it's not my thing.
Speaker 5: I don't really do it. So yeah, but it is
Speaker 5: great to see you guys, and you guys are friends.
Speaker 1: You guys, you were basically happy that you felt like
Speaker 1: you knocked it out before the show, didn't have to
Speaker 1: after the show and have this awkward thing where Colleen
Speaker 1: is literally standing in the doorway holding the door halfway
Speaker 1: out and thinking about catching is it safe for this
Speaker 1: is it safe for me to leave this conversation now,
Speaker 1: and it's like it would have been safe the whole time.
Speaker 2: You can just go if you want to go. It's
Speaker 2: all fine.
Speaker 4: We love you either way.
Speaker 5: Everything in my life is on a running clock, and
Speaker 5: I wish it wasn't that way. But I'm like, ooh,
Speaker 5: this is this is taking time time off the clock.
Speaker 3: I'm insulating my ceiling right now. I gotta like get
Speaker 3: back there and do some stuff.
Speaker 1: Your dog escaped from his keeper. Yes, so we'll get
Speaker 1: this show going.
Speaker 4: Like I said, Dolos, if you think about it, sure are.
Speaker 2: And it's shorter than you think.
Speaker 3: Take advantage yours is the shortest.
Speaker 2: I mean, I never you never know.
Speaker 3: I'm just kidding. I wasn't gonna say it that I did,
Speaker 3: and now I feel bad that I did.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I mean I'm getting good care my body.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of randomness that comes into that.
Speaker 3: I'm a personal trainer.
Speaker 1: I mean once a week you work out. Yeah, big
Speaker 1: Raiders fan, let's talk about it.
Speaker 4: Actually, let me tell Colleen the story. I just want
Speaker 4: to get your take on this. If is this something
Speaker 4: you would have done or maybe you would have not
Speaker 4: done in this Okay. When we interviewed new Raiders Jim
Speaker 4: John spy Tech, Greg led with the fact that his
Speaker 4: personal trainer, Stephen, is a Raiders fan and so really
Speaker 4: hopes that John spy Tech is a good GM.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, that's an icebreaker.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was supposed to be about how important the
Speaker 1: quarterback position. It is a good icebreaker. Actually, it's a
Speaker 1: way to like humanize it. We're all on the same level.
Speaker 1: You're not higher than me, John spy Tech or my
Speaker 1: trainer Stephen. All right, let's get to the schedule stuff.
Speaker 3: Greg's a big gym guy.
Speaker 2: Now, not at all.
Speaker 3: I put time back on the clock for you.
Speaker 2: Cowboys Eagles is the opener.
Speaker 1: I was looking at the potential openers last week because
Speaker 1: my son asked about it, and we went through the
Speaker 1: ones that would be more exciting than others. He was
Speaker 1: not excited about Cowboys Eagles, and I said, watch out
Speaker 1: for Cowboys Eagles because I just feel like that's something
Speaker 1: the NFL would do and they would do. Are you
Speaker 1: excited about it? As an Eagles fan? Who would you want?
Speaker 1: Week one?
Speaker 3: I love the Cowboys one.
Speaker 5: I mean sure it would be cool to have, like,
Speaker 5: you know, a rematch, have the Chiefs come in, whatever
Speaker 5: they already beat them once, have the Lions come in,
Speaker 5: because like, I really did want to see Eagles Lions
Speaker 5: at some point I thought that's what we were going
Speaker 5: to get last year, but we didn't. However, having the
Speaker 5: Cowboys come in too Philadelphia to open the season and
Speaker 5: have all of the banners and the pomp and circumstance
Speaker 5: of the Eagles winning the Super Bowl, with the Cowboys
Speaker 5: there to just watch it all and knowing that they
Speaker 5: have had not the success anywhere near that they will
Speaker 5: want in the last however many years. It feels like
Speaker 5: it's been decades and decades, But yeah, I love that matchup.
Speaker 4: That's a good point about the having to watch like, yeah,
Speaker 4: of your most hated rivals like literally hang championship banners,
Speaker 4: captive audience and celebrate and all of that. You know,
Speaker 4: the Cowboys continue to fail upward in terms of broadcasting
Speaker 4: situation because I mean, listen, people, they are they get,
Speaker 4: they draw crowd, They're on these TV spots for a reason.
Speaker 4: I understand that. But to have an opener of a
Speaker 4: team that hasn't had a winning season coming off a
Speaker 4: losing year. This is the sixth time in just in
Speaker 4: twenty four years that a team has opened in this
Speaker 4: slot with despite coming off a losing season, And that's
Speaker 4: just like, Okay, are we just gonna keep handing them
Speaker 4: these these key spots.
Speaker 1: I'll push back and just say the Cowboys are not
Speaker 1: a normal sub five hundred team, not just because they're
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, but because they had twelve wins, but what
Speaker 1: three straight years before that? They have Dak Paskett, they
Speaker 1: have people they know, they have Michael Parsons, they have
Speaker 1: CD Limb. It is a compelling game, and they feel
Speaker 1: like a little bit of a different version of a
Speaker 1: Cowboys because it's a new head coach, because they're coming
Speaker 1: off the back not a compell's actually fine.
Speaker 4: This is not This is not a playoff team, and
Speaker 4: I'm tired of treating them like with all the fanfare
Speaker 4: of the playoff team. That's all I'm saying here. This
Speaker 4: is a compelling game for the reasons Colleen said. And
Speaker 4: I think the Cowboys are actually going to be sneaky
Speaker 4: good this year. But I also think that it's like, Okay,
Speaker 4: for one second, can we just stop lumping these guys
Speaker 4: together with the teams that do deserve the spotlight? And
Speaker 4: a kickoff game like this.
Speaker 1: They've done a little bit of everything on these opening games.
Speaker 1: They've had division rivalries, they've had like the up and
Speaker 1: coming team like the Texans. Sometimes they have pretty random teams.
Speaker 1: I remember the Titans were in this game one year
Speaker 1: where they were kind of almost served as food for
Speaker 1: the Patriots, like they It depends like they've mixed it up.
Speaker 1: But the Cowboys are different to me because no other
Speaker 1: losing team in the NFL one to twelve games.
Speaker 2: Three years in a row.
Speaker 4: They have they okay, and what's their postseason record? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 4: here's the thing. Here's the thing every summer, Greg, and
Speaker 4: it's we're creeping close to peak summer ranting about the
Speaker 4: Cowboys hours that we always do because they're always in
Speaker 4: some sort of contract situation deep into the summer. We
Speaker 4: stand on the tiny table, we advocate for trades, we
Speaker 4: do all these things. We're getting to the point where
Speaker 4: all we're almost there, and I just want you to
Speaker 4: remember that you're saying, now, oh, we should we shouldn't
Speaker 4: treat them like any The only way that this team
Speaker 4: actually starts making decisions that make them a more competitive
Speaker 4: team overall is if they are started to be relegated
Speaker 4: on on the business side, as a normal team.
Speaker 5: Relegation is what could happen here. We should be the
Speaker 5: only thing that will motivate them.
Speaker 3: The cowboy should be relative.
Speaker 2: It's fair. I don't care about the numbers of it all.
Speaker 1: Speaks up obviously, the NFL cares about the numbers of
Speaker 1: it all. I don't care about that. Mine is more like,
Speaker 1: am I interested in it or not? And in this
Speaker 1: particular personally I am. So that's all I really care.
Speaker 4: Multiple things can be true at the same time. I'm
Speaker 4: interested in it, even though I don't think it should
Speaker 4: be happening.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're a compelling team because they weren't last year, right,
Speaker 1: they weren't at all at all.
Speaker 5: Even like being at training camp last year, I was like,
Speaker 5: I don't even know what to really talk about.
Speaker 1: Even before the injuries, it does feel it does feel different.
Speaker 1: Micah all that we got the International Games announced as
Speaker 1: well on Tuesday, and so yeah, there's there's more than
Speaker 1: there's a I know for the listeners overseas, for our
Speaker 1: friends overseas that have been on NFL daily like Neil
Speaker 1: Reynolds and Will Gavin and Nat Coombs and everything It's
Speaker 1: like it's very exciting for them to see seven international games.
Speaker 1: Like we were used to having a bunch in London,
Speaker 1: and there are three in London, but the new one
Speaker 1: in Dublin, and that it's being spread out all over
Speaker 1: the place. You got the Friday night game, which we
Speaker 1: think is Chiefs Chargers, but we don't know for sure
Speaker 1: as of this taping. That's that's gonna be the day
Speaker 1: after Cowboys Eagles. So that's fun. And then we start
Speaker 1: having won every week, starting in what is that Week four,
Speaker 1: Steelers Vikings. Vikings are staying overseas, first team ever to
Speaker 1: do that and play in two different countries for two
Speaker 1: straight weeks. So they play the Steelers in Week four
Speaker 1: in Dublin, the Browns in Week five at Tottenham Hotspurs Stadium,
Speaker 1: and then we have Broncos Jets. Week six, we have
Speaker 1: your Los Angeles Rams Jordan going and playing the jag
Speaker 1: Ours at Wembley. The Jaguars always play at Wembley, although
Speaker 1: they're only playing one London game this year that's a
Speaker 1: little different. Then we have a three weeks off and
Speaker 1: then we have the Berlin game. It's Colts Falcons, Little
Speaker 1: Michael Pennox Action and then wrapping up with the first
Speaker 1: ever game in Madrid. You can kind of tell they
Speaker 1: wanted to make sure Dublin in Madrid especially got like
Speaker 1: really good games this year, and they did. And it's
Speaker 1: Commanders with Jayden Daniels and the Dolphins are playing in
Speaker 1: Madrid and all those games are yeah at the same time,
Speaker 1: like I said, six thirty Pacific and except for that
Speaker 1: Friday night game. Yeah, they're on NFL networks. That's got
Speaker 1: to be the most games NFL networks had in a while.
Speaker 1: I'm just throwing this out there. What game, what game
Speaker 1: stands out to you? How about how about your RAMS
Speaker 1: going overseas? You keep saying my rag, well you kind
Speaker 1: of you.
Speaker 4: Cover that's yeah, I own part of the team actually,
Speaker 4: conspiracy theories sight, Yeah, the that's gonna be fun. It's
Speaker 4: like a family game really because they're the coaching the
Speaker 4: coaching staff, and the front office staff. They know each
Speaker 4: other so well at this point. Obviously, James Gladstone is
Speaker 4: of the Rams worked under Les Sneed since twenty sixteen.
Speaker 4: Liam Cohen worked under Sean McVay several times over the
Speaker 4: last five years, and then also like recently James Gladstone
Speaker 4: is hired out of the scouting staff in Los Angeles
Speaker 4: for a couple veterans scouts that are going to be
Speaker 4: joining him over there in Jacksonville to try to like
Speaker 4: build the first full year of that culture and of
Speaker 4: that department. So it's going to be sort of a
Speaker 4: reunion game. This It's been a while since the Rams
Speaker 4: have either A played overseas. I believe it was twenty nineteen,
Speaker 4: and then b actually were scheduled to play overseas and
Speaker 4: then everything sort of fell through, but then led to
Speaker 4: the one of the most historic offensive games that sort
Speaker 4: of ushered in the modern era of the NFL. So
Speaker 4: there's always something exciting that happens at these overseas games,
Speaker 4: regardless of who's playing. I just I'm excited about it.
Speaker 4: When I covered the Panthers, I got to go to London.
Speaker 4: I loved it. It was amazing. Can't wait to go back.
Speaker 1: Was that the seven interceptions between the two teams game
Speaker 1: with Kyle Allen and Jamison.
Speaker 3: Oh, that was fantastic because we were at that game.
Speaker 2: The Around the NFL podcast was at the game.
Speaker 4: Yes, I know, and I remember you guys got a
Speaker 4: really big chair when you were doing like a lap
Speaker 4: around the there we go around the pitch.
Speaker 2: Does anything stand out to you college?
Speaker 5: I am so excited for the Dublin game and I
Speaker 5: am angling to hopefully go to that game. I know
Speaker 5: that I will probably be in studio hosting most of
Speaker 5: the coverage, but if there was one game that I
Speaker 5: really wanted to go to, it would be Dublin. I'm
Speaker 5: obviously named Colleen, which means girl click, so come on now.
Speaker 5: And it's like I did go to Dublin when I
Speaker 5: was like in high school so many many years ago.
Speaker 5: I just can't imagine an NFL game there, knowing what
Speaker 5: it was like there without an NFL game. And then
Speaker 5: also it's Steelers, right, Steelers Vikings. Yes, Pittsburgh I think
Speaker 5: has a huge population of people that identify with Irish heritage,
Speaker 5: so I could imagine a lot of Steelers fans.
Speaker 3: I'm sure Minnesota too. Maybe I'm not.
Speaker 1: Maybe the Steelers are the home team. They they're the
Speaker 1: ones who have staked the international rights. Obviously, the Rooneys
Speaker 1: have an Irish background. Was an ambassador for Barack Obama
Speaker 1: back in the day to Ireland.
Speaker 3: So is a huge Irish town.
Speaker 1: It's going to be a whole thing, and it's it's
Speaker 1: a great matchup. You you kind of knew they were
Speaker 1: going to give a real contender to them in Week four.
Speaker 2: But I'm looking forward to all of them, That's what
Speaker 2: I'm going to say.
Speaker 3: Oh, all of that.
Speaker 1: There's like no stinkers there. They make sure to send
Speaker 1: good teams. Like every every game at least has a
Speaker 1: team with a winning record. The Browns and the Jets
Speaker 1: play a lot of home games now over in the UK,
Speaker 1: which is interesting.
Speaker 3: Have you ever been to Berlin?
Speaker 2: I have never been to Berlin.
Speaker 1: I'd like to be. That's where my father was born. Really,
Speaker 1: you know my grandparents, you know, they live there their
Speaker 1: first what thirty five forty years of their life. So
Speaker 1: my brother has been a lot. He's actually a German citizen.
Speaker 1: I would love to get over there. I would have
Speaker 1: to get over it to to all of them. I
Speaker 1: would accept anyone. You're Madrid, I'd love to go back
Speaker 1: one then, like, I'll take what i can get, and
Speaker 1: so I'll.
Speaker 2: Work on that.
Speaker 4: Vikings are four and oh and they're international games there
Speaker 4: we go are this point. So it's interesting because they've
Speaker 4: got the back to backs here than to open this
Speaker 4: slate and this or this like chunky slate that not
Speaker 4: the Brazil game, which I guess hasn't been announced yet.
Speaker 4: I don't know when that's gonna be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the day after opening, Yeah.
Speaker 4: So I but that's the thing is is like they're
Speaker 4: flying a little close to the sun. Like they have
Speaker 4: a very good track record overseas obviously, but this is
Speaker 4: flying a little close to the sun because I'll probably
Speaker 4: have to stay there for a week. Tyler Williams, who
Speaker 4: runs their sports science department over in Minnesota, They have
Speaker 4: done a lot of really interesting things with sleep study
Speaker 4: and travel, so I am actually fascinated by that element
Speaker 4: of it. This is an experiment that the league is
Speaker 4: running to see if a team can feasibly feasibly do this, yeah,
Speaker 4: and still have the output necessary to actually be competitive
Speaker 4: in one of these really physical games that they have
Speaker 4: against both of these opponents, and also do the back
Speaker 4: to back because you could you just know the league
Speaker 4: wants to put teams out there more, right.
Speaker 1: And the Jacks have played back to back a handful
Speaker 1: of times, and teams have they've done this. You know,
Speaker 1: data of like if you come early or you come late,
Speaker 1: and it all has kind of come out in the
Speaker 1: wash and people feel strongly one way or another, but
Speaker 1: it hasn't been as consistent. This will be different because
Speaker 1: they're going to be playing in two different countries but
Speaker 1: obviously not far apart.
Speaker 5: There's gonna be so much travel talk, first of all,
Speaker 5: because anytime the International Games are up, all we hear
Speaker 5: about is like who's arriving when and what they decided
Speaker 5: to do and why. However, twenty twenty six, we're gonna
Speaker 5: have Brisbane, so there's gonna be a game in Australia,
Speaker 5: which will be I think so wild because when you're
Speaker 5: talking about all the different stats a lot how they
Speaker 5: figure out just like the body and how you recover
Speaker 5: and all of the travel.
Speaker 2: That's significant, and it is significant.
Speaker 1: But the Vikings also get a little bit of an
Speaker 1: advantage that they have two quote unquote road games that
Speaker 1: aren't really yes road games. They'll have the extra rest
Speaker 1: and like early come down like NBA teams sometimes arrive
Speaker 1: at like three p thirty am to play the next day.
Speaker 1: To me, that's much more significant, even when you're only
Speaker 1: traveling in like two hours.
Speaker 2: To a gain.
Speaker 4: It is early in the season too, so their bye
Speaker 4: week will also come early, which to some you could
Speaker 4: look at that on paper and say, oh, they have
Speaker 4: an older roster. I don't know if it's that great
Speaker 4: that their bye week is that early. But actually, more
Speaker 4: and more as the season has lengthened to the extent
Speaker 4: that it has, and we'll keep doing that, especially this
Speaker 4: sort of modern wave of coaches who are planning out
Speaker 4: the structure of the regular season itself are more so
Speaker 4: resting starters in the preseason. More and more teams are
Speaker 4: doing that, and they're actually considering like November as the
Speaker 4: start of when they really need to start ramping up
Speaker 4: the workload and Thanksgiving trying to trying to like max
Speaker 4: into Yeah, and.
Speaker 1: Some seams and take the bye week when they come
Speaker 1: back from London. It's usually they get to, not exactly choose,
Speaker 1: but have a preference for it. The Jaguars haven't been
Speaker 1: taking it after they get back from London. They've just
Speaker 1: been playing.
Speaker 3: The next thought was last year the first time that
Speaker 3: they didn't take a buye.
Speaker 1: Different teams have approached it differently the last few years now,
Speaker 1: sometimes don't really want it. Some other games were announced.
Speaker 1: We got Broncos Chiefs on Christmas. Chiefs want to play
Speaker 1: on Christmas. That's going to be Christmas Night. We got
Speaker 1: the Eagles Bears on Black Friday. They announced like the
Speaker 1: week sixteen Saturday games, which are the games that will
Speaker 1: go opposite the college football playoffs. I kind of hate
Speaker 1: that that's happening, but that's Eagles, Commanders, Packers Bears in Brimpton.
Speaker 1: That's also I know the day after my family will
Speaker 1: leave me for the holiday. So a very sad day
Speaker 1: at my house. But I can watch some football to
Speaker 1: feel better. All right, Let's do a little news quickly
Speaker 1: before we move on to the segment. Trey Hendrickson is
Speaker 1: in the news. He is not thrilled. We've learned this
Speaker 1: in two parts.
Speaker 2: Number one.
Speaker 1: He released a statement through Adam Schefter on Monday, which
Speaker 1: I thought was really interesting, just pointing out that no
Speaker 1: communication has taken place between him camp in the organization
Speaker 1: after the draft, that essentially he was promised last offseason
Speaker 1: if he was continued to play at a high level,
Speaker 1: it would happen, and that coaches are aware. And then,
Speaker 1: in his words, rather than using collaborations to get us
Speaker 1: to a point to bring me home, they are no
Speaker 1: longer communicating capital they in the statement, which makes me
Speaker 1: think he like literally wrote it.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 1: And then he also spoke on Tuesday to the media
Speaker 1: for twenty minutes about it not being happy. He is
Speaker 1: showing up to ots, but he's not in a uniform.
Speaker 1: Let's listen to Trey Hendrickson.
Speaker 6: A little bit transpired between me and Zach. We've tried
Speaker 6: to keep it as less at least amount personal as possible,
Speaker 6: but at some point in this process it becomes personal.
Speaker 6: You know. Being sent thirty days before mandatory camp or
Speaker 6: however do any days it is that if I don't
Speaker 6: show up, I will be fined alludes to the fact
Speaker 6: that something won't get done in that time and that
Speaker 6: with the lack of communication post draft, made it evidently
Speaker 6: clear from my party, meaning my wife, my son, my agent,
Speaker 6: right like, we're talking to a small group of people
Speaker 6: that I had to inform that this might not work out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is tough.
Speaker 1: He also said he does not envision, when he got
Speaker 1: a direct question about it, any scenario where he would
Speaker 1: play under his current contract. That sound as courtesy of
Speaker 1: Mike Petraglia from sinsinci dot com.
Speaker 3: Why do the Bengals operate this way.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the annual question.
Speaker 5: Why this is pay your players, take care of your players.
Speaker 5: I know that they chose to do that already, but
Speaker 5: with other players in the offense. But this is your
Speaker 5: main guy. This is your most proven pass rusher. He
Speaker 5: led the league in sacks. He's a really good player.
Speaker 5: Seems like also just a really good guy on top
Speaker 5: of it, not that that is really anything in the contract,
Speaker 5: but still you have this talent right there, and you're
Speaker 5: not communicating with him, Like I think that that's the
Speaker 5: worst part is the lack of communication and the fact
Speaker 5: that that's what he got is just a notice that
Speaker 5: he'll be fined thirty days before showing up if he
Speaker 5: doesn't go. Like that's really how they're operating with someone
Speaker 5: that should be I don't know, really celebrated in this franchise.
Speaker 4: I think with this in a vacuum, I can understand,
Speaker 4: like the business part of it, well before this escalated
Speaker 4: to this point where you're considering potentially not paying someone
Speaker 4: who you might consider it to be an aging asset
Speaker 4: despite the production. You're trying to maybe get out before
Speaker 4: he really starts to decline. You have changes on all
Speaker 4: over your defense. You scape goaded your defensive courordinator, you
Speaker 4: have a new person, and that all of that, like,
Speaker 4: you can argue that as a team. To your point, Colleen,
Speaker 4: what I really cannot stand about this is that they
Speaker 4: had this whisper network when they're trying to get these
Speaker 4: two receivers done. They had this whisper network put forth
Speaker 4: what sounded like something coming very much from the team
Speaker 4: talking about how well we're gonna try to get We're
Speaker 4: gonna do our best to get all three done, and
Speaker 4: we want to get all three done. And only after
Speaker 4: the fact you heard another whisper network sort of subtly
Speaker 4: putting out there that Trey Hendrickson might be the odd
Speaker 4: man out if these other two receivers get paid. And
Speaker 4: it was made very clear by core players on that team,
Speaker 4: including the quarterback, that all three should be taken care of.
Speaker 4: And it's like you're almost hiding the mishandling of this,
Speaker 4: or the lack of communication, or the kind of how
Speaker 4: messy this has gotten. You're trying to hide it underneath
Speaker 4: the fact that yes, you did do the right thing
Speaker 4: by getting both receivers done, even though you also got
Speaker 4: them done too late.
Speaker 1: A lot of things came together here. The way that
Speaker 1: the Bengals do business is one of them, which is
Speaker 1: a little old school. Katie Blackburn, their executive vice president,
Speaker 1: you know, the daughter of the owner Mike Brown, said
Speaker 1: it's on Hendrickson, this is previous to be happy at
Speaker 1: some point talking about the negotiations. Should be happy at
Speaker 1: certain rates that maybe he doesn't think he'd be happy at,
Speaker 1: which Hendrickson found frustrating. So that's where it starts to
Speaker 1: get personal. And he said on Tuesday in those comments
Speaker 1: that they're they're offering him shorter deals. He wants longer
Speaker 1: deals like it's it's typical stuff. The problem that the
Speaker 1: Bengals had this offseason, this is where if you just
Speaker 1: ran things a little differently you could have seen coming.
Speaker 1: Is that Miles Garrett, you know, got his new contract.
Speaker 1: Max Crosby, who gets a new raise every year and
Speaker 1: had many years left on his contract, You maybe couldn't
Speaker 1: have seen that one coming, got another raise. And so
Speaker 1: Hendrickson is close to their level. He not at their level,
Speaker 1: but close to their level, and so he's expecting a
Speaker 1: deal like that. Let's move on to another ownership group,
Speaker 1: which gets a lot of attention. We've already talked about
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones and Jersey.
Speaker 4: I know, I can't hot at the Cowboys.
Speaker 3: I don't like to say more about the I don't understand.
Speaker 4: Where that came from. I'm absorbing the Connie Wolf energy
Speaker 4: right now.
Speaker 2: I agree they get talked about weight.
Speaker 4: I lost their drafts on on like.
Speaker 1: Talk shows, but the fact I like him on on
Speaker 1: weak one. I mean, there was other good options too,
Speaker 1: but I would have been fine with like four, four
Speaker 1: or five options.
Speaker 2: Uh. They talked about George Pickens.
Speaker 1: I heard this and I just thought it was an
Speaker 1: interesting insight into how Stephen Jones and the Cowboys view
Speaker 1: their acquisition George Pickens.
Speaker 7: We look at him, uh, you know, it's just two
Speaker 7: starting receivers out there. We don't necessarily even think we
Speaker 7: take him as more than a two.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 7: When when we were looking at the deal, Uh, certainly
Speaker 7: we looked at the draft. Uh, you know, in terms
Speaker 7: of scratching an edge, Uh, you know, seeing what might
Speaker 7: be available there in the draft. But here you get
Speaker 7: a guy who's got experience, who who's had great success
Speaker 7: in the NFL, obviously a tremendous competitor. He reminds a
Speaker 7: lot in our building of Dez Bryant in terms of, uh,
Speaker 7: you know, his competitiveness and you know what he brings
Speaker 7: to the field is edge.
Speaker 1: I love that they actually looked at George Pickens's competitive
Speaker 1: spirit as a plus and I get that, like on
Speaker 1: the field, he wants to win badly. That was courtesy
Speaker 1: by the way of Serious XM's Mad Dog Sports Radio.
Speaker 1: And on top of that that was Adam Shine former
Speaker 1: you know, NFL dot Com, NFL Media great.
Speaker 3: Kill a lot of people to come through here.
Speaker 1: He's been getting at a lot of good interviews lately.
Speaker 1: That that quote kind of reminded me of the idea
Speaker 1: that there is a world where this is an incredible
Speaker 1: steal for George Pickens. It is so hard to get
Speaker 1: quality wide receivers and they will have to pay him
Speaker 1: like sooner than later, and so that's part of it.
Speaker 2: But they didn't have to give up much.
Speaker 1: And if he can be a quality too, which is
Speaker 1: production has been, like they got him at a very
Speaker 1: cheap price, this could end up being a very good
Speaker 1: move by the Joneses, which you know, we haven't given
Speaker 1: them a lot.
Speaker 4: Of pric I think two things. One, they know also
Speaker 4: that he is great television the field, like he just
Speaker 4: is he plays football. Not only is he like a
Speaker 4: bona fide elite receiver and has not even scratched what
Speaker 4: his ceiling potentially is when he puts everything together, but
Speaker 4: also like he plays football like he's on like a
Speaker 4: WWE like match or something like he is all out
Speaker 4: and I get it. He's beefed with more than his
Speaker 4: share of people, especially defensive backs. Jordan Lewis had a
Speaker 4: tweet where he was like God wanted me to be
Speaker 4: a Jaguar or something like that, because George Pickens and
Speaker 4: him have like this legendary battle back and forth. But
Speaker 4: you haven't actually heard much and you guys correct me
Speaker 4: if I'm wrong on this, but I haven't heard much
Speaker 4: negative about him off the field. It's all competitive attitude
Speaker 4: on the field. It's not like the fact that he's
Speaker 4: you know, malcontent or whatever like. It's more so like
Speaker 4: he is going to have He's going to be like
Speaker 4: a total wild card on the field and makes some
Speaker 4: and make some plays and also do things in between
Speaker 4: the snaps and so.
Speaker 1: Is blocking I would guess would be the one spot
Speaker 1: like his block, like running every route full out. If
Speaker 1: he's not the primary guy, there has been a little
Speaker 1: bit of that.
Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, sure, but that's not off the field stuff,
Speaker 4: which I felt was a bit on I mean, and again,
Speaker 4: you guys, I just haven't seen it. Correct me if
Speaker 4: I'm wrong, but like it just that I felt like
Speaker 4: that was a little bit of an unfair label on
Speaker 4: him through the process. The other thing that I think
Speaker 4: that him and his agent, David Mulgetta have done very well,
Speaker 4: by the way, who Jerry Jones is pretending he doesn't
Speaker 4: has pretended he does not know the name of is
Speaker 4: that the Cowboys never pay people early. So what to
Speaker 4: your point, they're going to have to pay him at
Speaker 4: some point, Okay, yeah, but he's going to make more
Speaker 4: money than he would have made because they're going to
Speaker 4: drag this out until he needs to make more than
Speaker 4: what he could have gotten if he's signed an extension
Speaker 4: right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm just thinking about your point about him
Speaker 5: not being a problem off the field. I feel like
Speaker 5: a lot of people just assumed that he had some
Speaker 5: type of like issue, maybe just a huge personality to
Speaker 5: deal with off the field, because Pittsburgh decided to move him.
Speaker 5: But it sounds like they just both kind of needed
Speaker 5: a fresh start, which maybe that's naive of me to think,
Speaker 5: but DK is going to get the volume exactly target,
Speaker 5: so they know that that's probably going to cause an
Speaker 5: issue because he's never played with another number one before,
Speaker 5: so this will be the first time that George Pickens
Speaker 5: plays with a number one in Dallas. And Dak Prescott
Speaker 5: is by far the best quarterback he's ever played with,
Speaker 5: and Dak can throw all over the field, so it
Speaker 5: will really be interesting to see how he is in
Speaker 5: this offense and what Brian Schottenheimer does with these wide
Speaker 5: receivers and if George Pickens can sort of progress in
Speaker 5: his route tree, and I mean either way, he's going
Speaker 5: to be able to stretch the field.
Speaker 1: Financially, Yeah, the model would be Jalen waddle Er DeVonta Smith.
Speaker 1: Like two pluses in terms of and you get you
Speaker 1: get a nice contract, but you're not the number one
Speaker 1: guy on your own team. Speaking of which the Packers. Uh,
Speaker 1: I just thought this was a funny bit of media
Speaker 1: and we'll take a break after that. But like there
Speaker 1: was a statement from Adam Schefter specifically on Monday, it
Speaker 1: was that you just wanted everyone to know that Jaden
Speaker 1: Reid's agent who's Drew Rosenhows and the team met last
Speaker 1: week and that the team assured Jayden Reid that his
Speaker 1: status as the team's top receiver is quote unaffected by
Speaker 1: their recent draft picks of Matthew Golden and their third
Speaker 1: round pick save On Williams, which was so strange to
Speaker 1: me in a lot of ways.
Speaker 2: But the number one way it's strange is that.
Speaker 1: Jaden Reid had a career high of like eight hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty yards last year. So that's weird he was
Speaker 1: their top receiver. But it's just weird that why is
Speaker 1: this getting put out there? I actually a little ego
Speaker 1: management that, like, don't worry Jaden Reid, but it's just
Speaker 1: weird because like it's Jaden Reid.
Speaker 2: He really hasn't been a top receiver.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Mayden prove it. Like that's all.
Speaker 4: This reminds me to make my own statement that just
Speaker 4: be because my twin sister Maddie is actively trying to
Speaker 4: save our oceans and in turn our planet. I still
Speaker 4: my status as my mother's favorite child is unaffective, right,
Speaker 4: I've got development.
Speaker 1: Like the whole thing was because it kind of puts
Speaker 1: Jayden rear reading a weird spot in that room. It
Speaker 1: make But yeah, I guess he must have just been
Speaker 1: unhappy behind the scenes. You think I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know what I was, all right, I just found
Speaker 1: it funny.
Speaker 4: This comes out because people ask about it. Really, I mean,
Speaker 4: if enough people ask about it, if enough people are
Speaker 4: wondering about it behind the scenes or sending texts to
Speaker 4: Drew rosenhause and it's like, I don't know the Drew
Speaker 4: rosen House stamp.
Speaker 1: But why does Adam Schefter send that tweet?
Speaker 3: I wanted Schefter to send it to some other Why.
Speaker 1: Does Drew Rosenhouse want that out there? Like that doesn't
Speaker 1: seem like it's good for his client.
Speaker 3: He probably is all him about it.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like a way to keep your client.
Speaker 7: Maybe.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's agenting. It's his job. By the way, he
Speaker 4: also cemented your free agent lists status as unaffected by
Speaker 4: other free agents, including the one that I worked on
Speaker 4: for the Athletic dot Com thank you yes, as the
Speaker 4: dominant one when he stopped you on the streets. We
Speaker 4: can't be knocking the Rosenhouse.
Speaker 2: Oh I'm not knocking him, if that's what you gotta do.
Speaker 1: But like, I just wonder what Jordan Love and the
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator and Matt Lafleur is all thinking like, oh wait,
Speaker 1: what's our He has the status of our top receiver.
Speaker 2: That's just something.
Speaker 3: Wow, congratulations.
Speaker 1: It'd be one thing if he's like Megatron or something. Anyways,
Speaker 1: all right, let's.
Speaker 2: Take a quick break five of year.
Speaker 3: It's my favorite.
Speaker 1: Jeremiah Ausu Corrimoa is out for the season, the Browns linebacker.
Speaker 1: We mentioned that might be a possibility, so happy trails
Speaker 1: in terms of his rehab, and Asante Samuel Junior, the
Speaker 1: highest player left other than a Marik Cooper on my
Speaker 1: top one on one.
Speaker 4: Free agent list, speaking of which visited.
Speaker 1: The Saints, but he's not going to sign until July.
Speaker 1: Will be back after this.
Speaker 2: Back on NFL Daily. Yeah, we are. I do like
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Speaker 3: You know, summer's on the way.
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Speaker 1: But you know, his mother's day weekend and she's not
Speaker 1: really a beach fan, so it's tough to push that agenda.
Speaker 2: But I did make it like late late at night
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Speaker 1: We're trying a new segment. It's just very simple, a
Speaker 1: would you rather segment where we just asked some questions.
Speaker 1: Could be as big picture as you want, as little
Speaker 1: picture as you want. It could be anything you want.
Speaker 2: So open ended, it's a little would you rather.
Speaker 1: We'll go around and it's just like questions I'd be
Speaker 1: curious about your answers to, So I'll start just would
Speaker 1: you rather have Joe Burrow or Lamar Jackson with the
Speaker 1: ball in their hands needing a touchdown to win a
Speaker 1: game that is very important to you. I could put
Speaker 1: your life on the line or something like that. But
Speaker 1: that seems like Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow.
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow.
Speaker 5: Just last year, in those those last couple games where
Speaker 5: the Bengals were fighting for everything to try and win
Speaker 5: and get into the playoffs, it just felt like, yeah,
Speaker 5: their luck was so awful at the beginning of the year,
Speaker 5: but Joe Burrow just was like trying desperately to hold
Speaker 5: everything together, and I felt like if he could have
Speaker 5: moved a mountain in those moments, he would have.
Speaker 3: And so I'm going to trust him.
Speaker 1: Lamar gets, you know, two MVP's almost the third we
Speaker 1: doesn't get he gets.
Speaker 4: He gets. My vote is if worst case scenario, he's
Speaker 4: taken off running down the field and he's hard to
Speaker 4: catch in a scramble drill, he extends plays, he can
Speaker 4: get out of bounds to manage the clock. I just think, like,
Speaker 4: if not for a drop, you know, at the end
Speaker 4: of their last season, which I feel, I still feel
Speaker 4: my entire body shrivel up every time I think about it, Like,
Speaker 4: if not for that, where has that happened a lot? Possibly?
Speaker 4: I have probaly if you know this, But it's.
Speaker 2: Like he's just up at night, think you about Mark.
Speaker 4: And I'm just rocking in the corner thinking about poor
Speaker 4: Mark Andrews who got a car accident and then ended
Speaker 4: his season that way. Yeah, I think that I pick
Speaker 4: Lamar on this.
Speaker 1: It's a tough one because my instinct is Lamar good
Speaker 1: because he's just better. But I think it gets the
Speaker 1: reason I asked it. It sort of gets to I
Speaker 1: think how people think of these two players, and I've wondered,
Speaker 1: I was wondering if that's changed enough, changed at all,
Speaker 1: because Lamar obviously has a ton of game winning drives
Speaker 1: and a lot of great play in the key moments,
Speaker 1: and ultimately I think he's a significantly superior player to
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow so far at the NFL level. So I
Speaker 1: would I would go Lamar Jackson, But there is sort
Speaker 1: of this feeling of Joe Burrow based on what he
Speaker 1: did last year. Although you know, I will say like
Speaker 1: they were. They lost a lot of those close games.
Speaker 1: They did have a chance to go even further sometimes,
Speaker 1: but he did everything that a mortal could be asked
Speaker 1: to do. And that's why it isn't interesting. Even as
Speaker 1: much as I love Lamar, it's not a slam dunk question.
Speaker 3: Well, they're both so good.
Speaker 5: I would like to know the details of the game
Speaker 5: and the situation.
Speaker 2: I said, you need to touch that.
Speaker 3: I need to know the defense. It's like two and
Speaker 3: a half minutes, like who's healthy, who's not?
Speaker 4: Are they playing like a shell coverage?
Speaker 3: Are we inside time?
Speaker 4: Because how many timeouts does either side hack? I love
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow, Zach Taylor and a locker. Like you know,
Speaker 4: he is on track to be a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 4: He he has basically been a top five quarterback since
Speaker 4: he entered the league, which kind of makes you a
Speaker 4: Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2: So this is no slight to him.
Speaker 1: He's just playing next to I think Lamar Allen and
Speaker 1: Mahomes are just at slightly there. And I think that
Speaker 1: Super Bowl run he had where the defense did most
Speaker 1: of the work, is doing a lot of work for him.
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the next question. Let's go Jordan.
Speaker 4: Huhuh uh. Okay, would you guys rather this is a
Speaker 4: personal personal preference. Okay, would you rather travel if you
Speaker 4: were a player, travel for back to back West coast
Speaker 4: to East coast trips without staying east between, or travel
Speaker 4: for back to back international games while staying in.
Speaker 5: Between international wall stay between. I want to stay in
Speaker 5: the same place for as long as possible. I'm not
Speaker 5: trying to get on a bunch of different planes and
Speaker 5: do that whole thing, because you know what it's doing,
Speaker 5: It's taking time off the clock. So I would like
Speaker 5: to stay in the life clock, off the lifeblock, and
Speaker 5: I got to keep every minute I have, so I'm
Speaker 5: staying in whatever internet locale I'm playing in.
Speaker 1: I also think the week away where you have that
Speaker 1: Monday Tuesday in London in this case. Yeah, like that's
Speaker 1: something that not a lot of teams get, where you're
Speaker 1: already adjusted, you don't have as much work to do,
Speaker 1: and you're with your team.
Speaker 2: That seems great.
Speaker 1: I know these are family men, now they could bring
Speaker 1: their families over some some might do that, but it
Speaker 1: also might not be like the worst thing to have
Speaker 1: a week where you're just focused.
Speaker 2: On work and camaraderie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds good to me and the whole Like, oh,
Speaker 1: they got to adjust to the time soon.
Speaker 2: It's like, let's calm down. They play that they play
Speaker 2: one game.
Speaker 1: Like teams in lots of sports are adjusting to this
Speaker 1: sort of stuff all the time where they have to
Speaker 1: play multiple games a week, like baseball teams. Like tennis players
Speaker 1: are like arriving from China and playing like the next morning.
Speaker 1: Then they played till three in the morning because tennis
Speaker 1: is broken, and then play like the next It's like
Speaker 1: they do it and like people aren't crying.
Speaker 5: For I would just say, real quick, will be fine
Speaker 5: that there are probably less distractions when you're traveling than
Speaker 5: when you're at home, so I feel like you would
Speaker 5: probably be able to be more dialed in if you
Speaker 5: stay there.
Speaker 4: I would say, uh, two things. One on your tennis point,
Speaker 4: these football players are having like active car crashes two
Speaker 4: hundred times a game, so a little bit different getting
Speaker 4: on a plane and going to another.
Speaker 1: Sure, but the tennis players are also paying for their trip,
Speaker 1: so they're not they're not in depending on who they are,
Speaker 1: they're not in the front of the plane.
Speaker 2: It's a lot going on on them.
Speaker 3: On a Dreamliner.
Speaker 4: Yes, a lot of teams still do take commercial flights
Speaker 4: where only the captains have seats that actually are the pods.
Speaker 4: But to that point, I never actually realized how much
Speaker 4: of a toll those long East to West coast flights take.
Speaker 4: I like the idea of staying out for multiple weeks
Speaker 4: because until a couple of years ago, when there was
Speaker 4: a bunch of players that got injured in the Rams
Speaker 4: Lions game and they had they were stuck on the
Speaker 4: tarmac overnight and they could not dplane, and they got
Speaker 4: stuck in this Everything was froze then, and they couldn't
Speaker 4: take off and they couldn't deplane, and so they're sitting
Speaker 4: there with like one of the guys had like a
Speaker 4: torn ACL and a torn MCL and is in a
Speaker 4: tiny airplane seat sitting there overnight like they're all there's
Speaker 4: two bathrooms like there. It just was, and I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 4: the potential for a worst case in between two long
Speaker 4: trips is too much for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And sometimes either way, every once in a while,
Speaker 1: the East Coast teams do stay out here just and
Speaker 1: do get all the benefits that I was just saying.
Speaker 1: Not only do you not like the Patriots stayed out
Speaker 1: here for a couple of weekends when they did the
Speaker 1: Los Angeles trip. They do that sometimes, Colleen, You're up next,
Speaker 1: all right?
Speaker 5: Would you rather gang spend the rest of your life
Speaker 5: in an NFL training camp simulation locked in Saint Joseph,
Speaker 5: Missouri during a July heat wave in full pads, or
Speaker 5: lose the ability to ask questions in perpetuity, leading to
Speaker 5: a life of declarative statements that exclusively end in exclamation points,
Speaker 5: both verbalized and written.
Speaker 2: Wow wow.
Speaker 4: Well, as a woman, I couldn't get away with the latter,
Speaker 4: So I'll pick the former and my skin will look great.
Speaker 2: It would be tough to not be able to ask questions.
Speaker 3: You can only speak in exclamation points.
Speaker 2: I mean that's with your family. Do that anyway maybe
Speaker 2: on this show.
Speaker 3: Written and verbally with your family, with your friends.
Speaker 1: Be known as as a person with a total lack
Speaker 1: of curiosity for the rest of your life. I think
Speaker 1: I'd have to go to the training game where the tales.
Speaker 3: The rest of your life?
Speaker 4: How long am I going to live in And.
Speaker 3: We're back to the clock again.
Speaker 5: Yes, in an NFL training camp simulation locked in Saint Joseph, Missouri,
Speaker 5: where the Chiefs have their training camp during a July
Speaker 5: heat wave in full pads.
Speaker 2: Wait, but that's the entire rest of your life.
Speaker 3: That's the entire your life.
Speaker 1: Well, then I guess the other one because you're like giving,
Speaker 1: you're losing your family and like your.
Speaker 2: Entire way of life. That the other way. It sucks.
Speaker 2: But uh, I thought you just had to go there
Speaker 2: for training camp.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, or like your life is now just
Speaker 5: a training camp.
Speaker 1: Right, or even you if you had made it, you
Speaker 1: just go there every year for training camp to do that?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's that's more of a tough one.
Speaker 1: Even then, that's close because that's like two and a
Speaker 1: half weeks, right.
Speaker 4: I'd get, you know, free lodging, I'd get you know.
Speaker 3: That's fair. Look, I mean glasshow full over here? People?
Speaker 2: The beds are bad.
Speaker 1: Now, if you could live forever and do that, oh,
Speaker 1: I might give up the family for that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, living forever in an NFL training camp. Of course,
Speaker 3: Greig would give up his family for.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying about people.
Speaker 1: At some point, as he sort of alluded to it
Speaker 1: at the time, at some point it just ends, and
Speaker 1: that's just it. And this is such a dark ship
Speaker 1: that's compelling and scary. So I just want to that one.
Speaker 4: How is you having to speak in declarative statements and
Speaker 4: perpetuity any different from how you are now? Exclamation point?
Speaker 2: That was what I was going to say on this show.
Speaker 2: It wouldn't be that different.
Speaker 5: You're up are.
Speaker 4: Okay, this is a little game of would you rather that?
Speaker 4: I like to call position extravaganza or whatever Chris Pobona
Speaker 4: has decided to call it, which is probably better than
Speaker 4: whatever I decided to call it. Okay, this, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 4: This is rapid fire. You can't think about them. I
Speaker 4: just have to say the first thing in your head
Speaker 4: and both of you can go at the same time
Speaker 4: for chaos. Okay, would you rather have the Eagles offensive
Speaker 4: line or the Eagles run game? You can't have both
Speaker 4: offensive line. Offensive line, have the Bucks offensive line or
Speaker 4: the Bengals wide receiver's room Bengals wide receivers. Have the
Speaker 4: Broncos secondary or the Lion's running backs.
Speaker 5: Broncos secondary, Bronco's secondary.
Speaker 4: Have the Rams defensive line or the Bucks receives room.
Speaker 2: Bucks receiver's room, Rams defensive line.
Speaker 4: Okay, fun game.
Speaker 2: I like that, like games within a game.
Speaker 4: I like to gamify everything.
Speaker 2: We are hitting as many different I like that.
Speaker 4: Chris, I like what you called it, Jordan's Would you
Speaker 4: rather extravaganza? That was nice?
Speaker 2: Yes you can.
Speaker 1: You can check out the graphics stylings from Chris Pavona
Speaker 1: on the on YouTube channel. On the graphics, the toughest
Speaker 1: one was Broncos secondary or the Lion's running back. I know,
Speaker 1: to me, secondaries they kind of just when you think
Speaker 1: they're the group, they usually don't stay that way for
Speaker 1: long and stuff to like bet on them year after
Speaker 1: year after you also haven't seen the matter more. But
Speaker 1: Jimir Gibbs is really cool.
Speaker 4: That's I also went young versus getting older Rams DL
Speaker 4: or Bucks receivers. My one that was really hard for
Speaker 4: me to think about was Bucks O line or Bengals receiver.
Speaker 3: I like that one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the Sophie's choice, right there.
Speaker 1: A lot of those position groups and you did not
Speaker 1: know this to be the case. We're mentioned in the
Speaker 1: top twenty position groups in the NFL episode that Nick
Speaker 1: shook and I put up just this this morning, way so.
Speaker 2: Many just a coincidence there. It goes offensive line energy.
Speaker 4: Spending a lot of time with you, we're.
Speaker 1: Number one, all right. I will ask you guys this question.
Speaker 1: You wake up tomorrow morning, your mind has been completely
Speaker 1: wiped in terms of your football fandom, and you will
Speaker 1: just wake up as a fan of either the Cowboys
Speaker 1: or the Giants for the next ten years.
Speaker 2: And colleague, you're not aware at.
Speaker 1: The time you wake up of that that you were
Speaker 1: once an Eagles fans, but you are aware now in
Speaker 1: this scenario that you are an Eagles fan.
Speaker 2: So you have to make that decision.
Speaker 1: You get the Cowboys or the Giants for the next
Speaker 1: ten years.
Speaker 2: And it's not like half hearted.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be wearing the starter jackets you're gonna be
Speaker 1: like on Reddit, you're you're in it, and you don't
Speaker 1: have a choice of that, but you have to choose
Speaker 1: one of those two.
Speaker 5: Okay, well, this is a nightmare, and maybe my clock
Speaker 5: will end before I need to choose a team.
Speaker 2: This was directed at specific my life clock.
Speaker 5: All Right, Well, if I have to choose between the
Speaker 5: Cowboys and the Giants, it's pretty simple.
Speaker 3: It's never going to be the.
Speaker 5: Cowboys, so okay, by default, it's the Giants.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm actually I'm going to pick the Cowboys because
Speaker 4: I feel like that would mean I would have so
Speaker 4: many new friends who are all just like completely oblivious
Speaker 4: to the realities of life and follow again, everywhere everywhere
Speaker 4: I go, I would find a friend. I would have
Speaker 4: so many friends.
Speaker 1: The one thing I you know, you have to give
Speaker 1: Cowboys fans credit for is it's not like it's been
Speaker 1: fun the last thirty years. If you're a forty year
Speaker 1: old Cowboys fan, it sucked.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like Jordan, if you get.
Speaker 2: Say that they're jumping on and I get, I get.
Speaker 4: It, be forty three in ten years, so I won't
Speaker 4: even have known that's true.
Speaker 1: Actually, you're the perfect age for it because you wouldn't
Speaker 1: even have been like a really small.
Speaker 4: Child oblivious to the cruelty of the world.
Speaker 5: You know, Jordon, if you're looking for more friends, just
Speaker 5: come out with me. You don't have to be a
Speaker 5: Cowboys fan. Deal, wrap us up, Colleen? Okay, Oh, I
Speaker 5: have two more, but I'll just do one more. They're
Speaker 5: both quick.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 5: Would you rather have Scott Hansen narry your entire life
Speaker 5: like a red Zone fever dream or spend the rest
Speaker 5: of your days waiting for Aaron Rodgers to make every
Speaker 5: single decision for your life?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: Is Scott Hanson narrating the life in your head?
Speaker 2: Where is it airing? No, what's happening?
Speaker 3: It's everywhere.
Speaker 5: It's like you're walking and he is just like a
Speaker 5: voice behind you.
Speaker 3: He's omnipresent, essentially.
Speaker 4: A built in friend.
Speaker 2: Can other people hear him in your life?
Speaker 3: Yes? Oh, I love You're at the grocery store, your work.
Speaker 4: She's reaching further Braccoley. Oh, she's going Florence not full head.
Speaker 3: Wow, not now, Scott.
Speaker 4: I like that, except if I'm falling asleep and I'm
Speaker 4: trying to fall asleep. Does he narrate like she's closing
Speaker 4: her eyes? This she's about to get across.
Speaker 5: The end zone and maybe he counts sheep though for you,
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I could do that.
Speaker 4: I could do that.
Speaker 2: I don't have a handsome impression.
Speaker 3: And there's Xanax too.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't like that. You said you'd like that.
Speaker 1: This is kind of like Colleen's you know, Cowboys Giants
Speaker 1: decision for me, both sound horrible, but having Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: involved in my life in a meaningful, in a very
Speaker 1: meaningful way for the rest of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, to make every decision for you.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna get worse than that. So I'm definitely
Speaker 1: taking Scott Hansen.
Speaker 4: I like the idea of having like a built in
Speaker 4: Scott Hansen just like around you know.
Speaker 1: I like it to make like one two minute social
Speaker 1: video that you post once. It would get old by
Speaker 1: that evening, like it would gets.
Speaker 3: So many sleep yourself.
Speaker 4: I like to have noise going the entire time, you
Speaker 4: know all.
Speaker 5: I have one more bonus one okay, real quick? Would
Speaker 5: you rather take twenty surprise hits from Miles Garrett that
Speaker 5: could come at any moment over the next five years,
Speaker 5: or cats or moment no no pats, just at any
Speaker 5: moment He's going to pop up over the next five years.
Speaker 5: Twenty times. It's going to happen. It could happen anywhere.
Speaker 5: It could happen.
Speaker 3: Maybe you go to church.
Speaker 5: It could happen at church when it's godhand maybe depending
Speaker 5: on where you are in these different simulations. Okay, that's
Speaker 5: the one or so twenty surprise hits from Miles Garrett
Speaker 5: anytime over the next five years. Or have five cats
Speaker 5: with you at all times over the next twenty years
Speaker 5: at all times.
Speaker 2: The cats sounds fun.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't like cats. They have to be with
Speaker 5: you everywhere.
Speaker 4: I mean, i'd take them.
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett normalize judging the people who say only dogs
Speaker 1: are cool or only.
Speaker 2: Cats have cats there are cool. I mean, they're just
Speaker 2: following me.
Speaker 4: But I didn't say cats are uncool. That's yeah, that's
Speaker 4: a very different statement than cats are objectively cool. Cats
Speaker 4: are objectively cool animals. I like, I don't personally like cats,
Speaker 4: and I'm allergic's I'll go ahead and take the twenty
Speaker 4: hits at random moments through Miles Garrett.
Speaker 3: Anytime he could come crashing through this wall.
Speaker 4: Spice up my life, greg Im, you know, the cats
Speaker 4: thing is five especially compare to Garrett, because I think
Speaker 4: the worst thing that could happen.
Speaker 1: Talk about a car crew, is it not just not
Speaker 1: the hit itself. If you knew when the hits were coming.
Speaker 1: It's a conversation of which I mean the cats think
Speaker 1: seems fine though, But that's one thing, but not knowing
Speaker 1: living your entire life that at any moment and you're
Speaker 1: and you're counting and you want to feel some sort
Speaker 1: of relief. That's seven months in, you've gotten your third
Speaker 1: hit and it's like, no, I'm only at three.
Speaker 2: See.
Speaker 4: I think I think I would love to exist on
Speaker 4: that type of adrenaline drip on what.
Speaker 5: Like I think I'm carrying like seventeen bags of groceries
Speaker 5: up the steps and all of a sudden here he comes.
Speaker 4: But I wouldn't but I wouldn't know, it would just happen.
Speaker 4: It's a job in the box, that's the thing. It's like,
Speaker 4: I I kind of like the adrenaline spike, just constant
Speaker 4: drip the rest of your life. That probably a short one.
Speaker 1: It's a really good way to look at it. I'm
Speaker 1: with you there. If we're talking about, you know, the
Speaker 1: end of our lives and something that is something to
Speaker 1: keep you in the moment.
Speaker 2: That's true. You will be appreciated.
Speaker 4: It happened like a date and you're sitting in the
Speaker 4: cha what I want imagin boom, You're just you're.
Speaker 3: A job interview walking into a job interview.
Speaker 4: Okay, I would get the job though. For pity pity vote.
Speaker 1: It's definitely giving Terry Tate office linebacker vibes. A commercial
Speaker 1: that you may or may not remember starring Terry Crews.
Speaker 2: I believe from your uh, we're going to wrap up.
Speaker 1: We're in the off season, and if you have any
Speaker 1: anything that has popped into your pop culture life, will
Speaker 1: keep this quick. Okay, this summer that you just want
Speaker 1: to recommend to people. Back on my old podcast, the
Speaker 1: jessel Nick and Rosenthal Vanny Project, we called the Recommendation
Speaker 1: Station and I miss that. I missed that in U
Speaker 1: that's fine my life, and we're doing we're here weekly,
Speaker 1: so just just.
Speaker 2: One maybe maybe we'll do it weekly, maybe maybe not.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw out a movie just in case there's
Speaker 1: anyone out there that is my speed. I feel like
Speaker 1: this movie that just came out, Pavements was made specifically
Speaker 1: for me, and it left me leaving the theater on
Speaker 1: a total high. Now you maybe have to like the
Speaker 1: movie Pavement, or I mean the band Pavement. It's kind
Speaker 1: of a documentary about them, but not really. It's hard
Speaker 1: to describe, but it's a it's a fictionalized documentary essentially
Speaker 1: about them. But if you're at all interested in nineties
Speaker 1: nostalgia and really creative like filmmaking it. Mena Kimes hosted
Speaker 1: this talk after the show with one of the members
Speaker 1: of the band and some of the actors in it,
Speaker 1: like Jason Schwartzman is in it.
Speaker 2: It's really great.
Speaker 1: I just have to say, like I've never felt like
Speaker 1: if that this that all sounds interesting, you please go
Speaker 1: see it in the theater.
Speaker 2: You should go see Pavements if it's in your city.
Speaker 5: Nice turn out of ten from Greg and that's a
Speaker 5: high wreck.
Speaker 2: I've been thinking about it NonStop ever since. I was like,
Speaker 2: I cannot believe this one.
Speaker 4: Well, now you'll be thinking whether you may get hit
Speaker 4: by Miles Garrett or be followed by cats. That's true,
Speaker 4: a little balance there. Music, Yeah, go for it.
Speaker 5: Since you're talking about a band, I have three songs
Speaker 5: that I just keep listening to, so I'll let you
Speaker 5: guys know what they are. The name of the one
Speaker 5: song is grow and it's by Kidnap and Leo Stanard.
Speaker 3: It's the Kidnap dub.
Speaker 4: Version very specific, but that's a song inside Chema's head.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: For that Metallica that's like ac DC Hell's Bells and
Speaker 5: then totally different vibe. It's more of like a summer
Speaker 5: We're on the beach stick figure all for you love
Speaker 5: that one. And then also night Drive. I don't know
Speaker 5: if you guys know that song at all. Night Drive
Speaker 5: by John split Off. Wow, great one.
Speaker 2: That's a good gonn to look them all up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're welcome.
Speaker 4: I first of all, most of the world is going
Speaker 4: to see this movie. So this is not anything revelatory
Speaker 4: or anything like that, but go see Centers. It was
Speaker 4: one of the best movies I've ever seen really in
Speaker 4: probably the last ten years, if not life like it
Speaker 4: was one of my best. It's a masterpiece experience is
Speaker 4: the last five years, oh for sure. And then shout
Speaker 4: out to our friends at iHeart. I've recently gotten into
Speaker 4: the last Culturista's podcast. Specifically, they they do this segment
Speaker 4: where they rant about something for a minute called I
Speaker 4: Don't Think So honey, and that ties into one of
Speaker 4: the most pure, wonderful pop culture moments I've seen in
Speaker 4: a long time, which is this artist who I don't
Speaker 4: really know much about, but I know the one song
Speaker 4: that they do it's role Model. It's called Sally, and
Speaker 4: there's a bridge where he brings out different people to
Speaker 4: play the part of Sally during this bridge and it's
Speaker 4: like very wholesome and here and everyone dances around and
Speaker 4: all this stuff. And he was on a late night
Speaker 4: show and he brought out Bowen Yang to play Sally
Speaker 4: and it was like pure joy. So every won't go
Speaker 4: watch that clip and it'll get stuck in your head.
Speaker 4: I don't, like I said, I don't really anything about
Speaker 4: the artist, but that little moment of pure like it
Speaker 4: just was so it was just wonderful. You know, it
Speaker 4: was wonderful. And I love that segment in the show
Speaker 4: that they do And what's the name of the show,
Speaker 4: Last Culturista does come on?
Speaker 2: That's that's great show.
Speaker 1: One of the biggest podcasts out there, You guys, they
Speaker 1: are the Sinners of podcasts. What a delightful, random off
Speaker 1: season show.
Speaker 2: I love it. We will be back? When will we
Speaker 2: be back?
Speaker 1: We're going to be back on Wednesday evening, so a
Speaker 1: little different schedule. We are doing this schedule release O whow,
Speaker 1: Patrick Claibon, myself, Cynthia Freeland. You can check us out
Speaker 1: on the NFL channel as well. The Game Debut crew
Speaker 1: doing all that, but we'll also release a separate podcast
Speaker 1: that tapes specifically for NFL Day, Yes, when we know
Speaker 1: the NFL is going to Lone and we know the
Speaker 1: game football is back
Speaker 4: M HM.