1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast gets more emotional than ray Lewis. 2 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the League Podcast. 3 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansens, and I'm joined by a 4 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: room filled with heroes, Chris Westling and Gregg Rosenthal. What 5 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: up boys? Hey, Danne? No Sessler tonight Sunday night. Uh 6 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: So we're just gonna to carry carry on. We could 7 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: do it. Good day of football today. We know he's 8 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: smiling somewhere because he picked the Browns to win and 9 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: he got that right. That is, you know, set to 10 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 1: spoil the rest of the show, but the Browns one. Yeah, 11 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: that was a slight spoiler alert. But it's all right. 12 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: Mark is a happy man and he's celebrating somewhere. There 13 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: were a lot of games. Uh, we're digging into here 14 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: week nine. Um. I guess the place to start though, 15 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: is record records falling or being tied, at least in Oakland, 16 00:00:55,280 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: where Nick Foles through seven touchdown passes, four written six 17 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: yards and had a perfect passer rating, leading the Eagles 18 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: to a over the Raiders. K Rich behind the glass, 19 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna throw it to you actually to 20 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: start for the first time ever. K Ridge, who uh 21 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 1: it was a big Eagles fan, and she approached the 22 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: game with a lot of positivity and it's paid off. Well, guys, 23 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: you know, I came in here with my Eagle shirt on, 24 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: so you know I've been wearing a smile all day. 25 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: I really romance about my team. They did a good job. 26 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: The ball distritribution was beautiful. I saw a big place 27 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: from the Seawan Jackson, Shady McCoy, Riley Cooper was amazing. Sunday. 28 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: I feel the seduction right here is Nick Foles wooing 29 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: young Ky Ridge. Oh, you've been a Michael Vick fan 30 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: for years and years. See this is this is the 31 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: hard part. I will always be a Michael Vick fan. 32 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: Have this conversation earlier if he if he moves to 33 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: another team, I'm not even sure if another team will 34 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: pick him up. But it's hard to let go of 35 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: the fandom. But I'm very you know, I get optimistic 36 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: with Nick Foles. But again, he's going against mediocre teams, 37 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: but he's doing a good job. Next week will be 38 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 1: the big test against the Pack. Oakland is has a 39 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: pretty good defense actually, and uh, you know, I I 40 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: just I can't believe that he is It's always emblematic 41 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: of the NFL in general, the way things are so 42 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 1: up and down. You know, he's had some really bad 43 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: games and now this he has, you know, one of 44 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: the best games ever. The barring injury is it's safe 45 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: to say, Vic we will not see him take another 46 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: snap for the Eagles. Now. We can say that because 47 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: we've already seen Nick Foles face plant once. Yeah, but 48 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: we also just saw him do something No one in 49 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: the history of the NFL has ever done seven touchdowns 50 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: with a perfect passer rating. It was hard to see 51 00:02:58,240 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: this one coming the way that the Raiders have been 52 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: playing team defense. I don't know. I don't think the 53 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: Eagles can sustain it, but I think it's a huge 54 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: day for your softball pants. You've gotta be feeling good. 55 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,839 Speaker 1: That was my big take away here. Well, mcfanning walks 56 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: away with an injury. Prior got injured, but it seems 57 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: like he'll be fine. And uh, I think the defense 58 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: may have gotten exposed a little bit there. They were 59 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: top ten statistically, but I don't I think we all 60 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: kind of thought there was some smoking mirrors to that. 61 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: Right this they're now three and five, They're they're just 62 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: on the line here, they need to get the six 63 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: wins for you to win. You're still on pace to 64 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: eat nylon and elastic and metal shards and things of 65 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: that nature. However, Um, this is also the type of 66 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: loss that a lesser team, uh could potentially go in 67 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: the tank after. We'll see you know, you never know 68 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: how these teams bounce back. But are you Are you 69 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: feeling more confident now that this this is now because 70 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: you were you basically were almost you were thinking it 71 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: was a done deal. Almost. Yeah, I thought odds were 72 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: against me keeping my softball pants, But now I feel 73 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: like I have a shot. Um, wait, so is Nick 74 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: falls good? That was my other question today. But you've 75 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: never bought in on the fullest thing. I've been saying. 76 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: He's got some potential, he can do some things well. 77 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: He now has eighteen touchdowns versus two interceptions if you 78 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: take out the first start of his career. Um, my 79 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 1: problem with him going back to last season when I 80 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: watched I went back and watched him in the off season, 81 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: and um, he was awful in the red zone and 82 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: I didn't you know, he didn't really need that much 83 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: because he was making big plays today down the field 84 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 1: that wasn't an issue. But I mean in two of 85 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: his three Lass three starts, he's played exceptionally. Well, I'm 86 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: amazed the Seagulls team is four and five. They're not 87 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: a good team overall, and there four and five and 88 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: in the mix. Well, I mean they won by twenty 89 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: nine points today and the Raiders actually outgained them in yards. 90 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: The offense isn't a problem, the defense is do Uh 91 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: you know we're gonna bring back our stick of fork 92 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: in them committee? Uh gonna make a judgment on some 93 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: team or teams on Wednesday. Is the committee going to 94 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: talk about the Raiders at three and five? Oh? I 95 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 1: think we will. We're looking for candidates that need a fork, 96 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: Absolutely the Raiders. Half the Raiders have to be high 97 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 1: on that list. All right, our next game, we'll talk 98 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 1: about the Sunday night match up. A memorable game on 99 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: a couple of different levels. Obviously, the biggest storyline coming 100 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: out of it was Texans coach Gary Kubiak, who you know, 101 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: dropped to one knee on the field coming off the 102 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 1: sideline at halftime. After the game, we we found out that, um, 103 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: he had some lightheadedness, so they took him to the 104 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: hospital and it doesn't seem to be serious, so that's 105 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: that's good news. And then from the game standpoint, uh, 106 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: kind of a shocking meltdown for the Texans, who had 107 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: a big lead in the second half, and then Andrew 108 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: Luck caught fire. They scored on four straight possessions and 109 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: a killero lost for the Texans who are in very 110 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: deep trouble. Now. The Texans dominated for three quarters, the 111 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: Colts couldn't protect Andrew Luck, and then in the fourth 112 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 1: quarter he and t Y Hilton just took over. I mean, 113 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: there are losses and then there are losses, and there 114 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 1: are losses losing an eighteen point lead at home against 115 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:26,119 Speaker 1: your division rival in what amounted to a playoff game. 116 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: And then, oh, by the way, your coach went to 117 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: the hospital in a very confusing situation where he was 118 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: on a stretcher at halftime, and they say his signs 119 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: are vital and it's positive, and there was even some 120 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: optimism express will be back with the team soon, but 121 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: we don't know, we don't know what the head coaching 122 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: situation is going to be there for a little bit. 123 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: And I thought it was one of the most depressing 124 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: losses I've seen, and how does it get much more depressing? 125 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: Then they go into halftime. As second quarter ends, they're 126 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: up six. Um, you know, three touchdown receptions for Andre Johnson. 127 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: K Keenom looks great, the world, everything seems to be 128 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,559 Speaker 1: coming in line for a potential you know, strong text 129 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: and second half and Kubiak goes down, he's off the field. 130 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: White Phillips takes over, and you know, the air came 131 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: out of the building the place. You know, I'm sure 132 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: it was kind of a confusing scene if you were 133 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: in the stands at that game. And then the offense 134 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: could not Keenom, who looks so great in the first half. 135 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: The offense didn't move the ball well in the second half. 136 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: And uh, for Luck, the big thing was he got 137 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: better protection. Um he was I believe, four for twelve 138 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,559 Speaker 1: for less than a hundred yards in the first half. 139 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: Once they started protecting him, Um, it was game over. 140 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: I mean Luck Luck. This was Hilton's first big game 141 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: with Reggie Wayne out of the lineup, and he stepped up. 142 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: And during that score where they put up twenty four 143 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: straight points over four possessions, Um, they ran the ball once. 144 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: So this is Andrew lux team. We knew that but 145 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: forget about Trent Richardson. This team goes as Andrew Luck goes, 146 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: and he could take them far. K richards it. I mean, 147 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: he's not even their best back right now. Donald Brown, 148 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: Don Brown's getting inside carries inside the ten there. They 149 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: have a knack for doing this, you know, the Colts 150 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: have done that ten fourth quarter comebacks for Luck in 151 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: his career. They've had a lot of crazy comebacks. And 152 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: the Texans have a knack for playing wildly uneven games. 153 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: They did it in Week one against the Chargers. They 154 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: did against the Seahawks, which I said was one of 155 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: the most dominant performances. It was almost a carbon copy 156 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: of this game where at the end of the third 157 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: quarter it started to change. People will make the narrative 158 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: about kubyak and I think that's unfair because that's something 159 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: that's different than football. And they built the lead up 160 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: ten points to eighteen after kubiak Um went down, and 161 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: then in the fourth quarter it all fell apart. I've 162 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: seen some sentiment on Twitter, not from national writers, but 163 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 1: just from fans who aren't watching the Cults on a 164 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: weekly basis. I think that Andrew lux is kind of 165 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: a product of National media hype, and then you see 166 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: some of the throws he makes. The throws he made 167 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter were just unreal, just great throws 168 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: that not many quarterbacks can make. He put the ball 169 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: exactly where it needed to go. One other point for 170 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: the Texans. You know they are now two and six. 171 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: The four Committee is gonna have to get together and 172 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: have some discussions about them. Uh, the division's gone now, 173 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: not that it was ever really there, but now they're 174 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: four back with with eight to play. And also Arian 175 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: foster Um, the running back, he left the game in 176 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: the first quarter with the back injury. Of course, a 177 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: back injury shut him down for a good portion of 178 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: the summer. So things just keep getting worse. Well, I 179 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: think emotionally it seems like this loss probably ended their 180 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: playoff hopes. Couldn't they make a run of wild card? 181 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 1: Well that's that's a conversation for the Fourth Committee. I'm 182 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: not willing to write them off because I like what 183 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: I've seen so much from case Keenum. I mean, to me, 184 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: he looks like more of a solution than a fill 185 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: in from what we've seen in two games now, I 186 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 1: think he he looks like a young Tony Romo or 187 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: Jake Plumber where he's playing with MAXI has athleticism, not afraid, 188 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: not afraid at all. No, he he won't take checkdowns. 189 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: We've seen he had eleven passes of twenty five or 190 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: more yards in in eight quarters. Shob had six of 191 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: those passes in twenty quarters. And Wade Phillips was so 192 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: drained after the game. It's been obviously an emotional couple 193 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: of weeks for him. And he kept just pointing to 194 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: the stats, like, you know, their quarterback only went eighteen 195 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: forty and our quarterback the quarterback rating was sensational. We 196 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: did this, and we did that, and it was like 197 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: he was trying to add it all up. How did 198 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: this possibly happen to me? And that's that's the feeling 199 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: that a lot of start with his kicker. Yeah, yeah, 200 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: Randy Bulks should not search his name on Twitter because 201 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: it's it's fairly grim. I think he's the first quarterback 202 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: or first kicker to miss eight kicks in the first 203 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: eight games of the season in over a decade, first 204 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: kicker with the nickname fat Randy too. It doesn't Yeah, 205 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: it doesn't get worse. The worst nickname in the league, 206 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: and also having the worst season among any kicker. There 207 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: was a zero percent chance he was making that kick 208 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: at the end of the game. You can see it 209 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 1: in his eyes. Oh, he had the fear in his eyes. 210 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: I feel bad for him. Yeah, I like to call 211 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: him overweight Randy. That's that's a little most worthy. Okay, 212 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: let's move on. Tomba Hallie and cornerback Sean Smith return 213 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: turnovers for touchdowns and it helped extend the Chiefs to 214 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: UH nine and oh on the season they over the Bills. Greg, 215 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. Tell me about this game, because I 216 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: don't I still don't know how the Chiefs are nine 217 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: and oh and but they are. They're nine and oh, 218 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: the worst nine or o team ever. It's like the 219 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: sure but it's so unfair. But you know, it's like 220 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: the Chiefs are trying to be less impressive each week 221 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: while they win. Like it's a contest. What could we 222 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: do to really annoy everyone? Now, let's give up four 223 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy yards to Jeff Toole in the Bills. 224 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: I watched this and there's no reason the Bills lost 225 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 1: this game. They shouldn't have lost. That were in They 226 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: ran the ball just down the Chief's throats. The last 227 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: two weeks have made me wonder if the Chiefs defense 228 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: is not quite as good as we think, but that 229 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 1: they did wind up scoring a couple of touchdowns in 230 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: this game. There were a lot of unforced errors though 231 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: by Buffalo. You know people are gonna give the Chiefs credit. 232 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: There were a lot of drops to kill drives. There 233 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: was fumbles in a bad spot. There was a play 234 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: in the red zone where a rookie by the Chiefs. 235 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 1: I think it was good when broke up a past 236 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: that was going to be completed to their tight end. 237 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: Chandler basically broke up a pass through his team. So 238 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: there's a lot of unforced errors and a lot of 239 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: bad luck for Buffalo. The play of the game was 240 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: ten ten three, Buffalo knocking up the door inside the 241 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: five yard line. Uh. Sean Smith picks the ball off 242 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: one yard deep into the end zone and takes it 243 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: back a hundred yards instead of seventeen three, it's ten 244 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: ten and uh it's very hard for any team to 245 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: come back for that from that situation. But they had 246 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: a million chances too. I mean C. J. Spiller after 247 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: that point just ran right through them. They ran for 248 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: over I think it was two forty yards against the Chiefs. 249 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: They moved the ball, but they couldn't finish. I mean, 250 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: you gotta give the Chiefs credit. But Smith threw for 251 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: four point three yards per attempt in this game. To 252 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: build gabbed in the sub gabber. The last time I 253 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 1: saw Jeff Tool play, I thought he had the worst 254 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: arm in the NFL. What was your impression? He was 255 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: hit or miss on the deep throws. They were taking 256 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: shots with him, and sometimes it looked like a joke, 257 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: I mean it floated out of his hands, and then 258 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: other times he made some pretty nice throws. There were 259 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: a lot of drops and mistakes by the receivers. He 260 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: he wasn't terrible in this game. Are we talking with 261 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: arm strength West? We're talking uh, mid period, Chad Pennington. 262 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: Are we talking Tyler Palko express? Where are we resting 263 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: on this? It looked like slightly slightly stronger arm than Tyler. 264 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 1: Tyler Palco which is pretty but more wobbly passes a 265 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: lot of wobbles. But there was a fifty nine yard 266 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: touchdown the good one which is a perfect throw which 267 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: you look great on. But for the most part, a 268 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: lot of wobbles Chiefs come the first team since the 269 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: Seven Grit splits Atlanta Falcons to hold each of their 270 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: first nine opponents to seventeen points. Are fewer? Give him 271 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: some credit. And by the way they go into their 272 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: by and because it is an annoying nine and oh, 273 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: because we all know they're not really this good. I'm 274 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: thinking the Broncos at home, we'll take down the Chiefs. 275 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: We'll see, but that that would be if the Chiefs 276 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: win in Denver in week eleven. You know, I think 277 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: we all need to bow down at the altar of 278 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: Andy Reid. But you know, we'll see. Here's the craziest 279 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: stat of the year to me. The Chief's defense did 280 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: not touch Jeff Toole in this game. Not a sack 281 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: and not a QB hit. Not even once did they 282 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: hit him. That's surprising, that's alright, moving forward two straight 283 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: weeks for that. By the way, Chiefs defense didn't really 284 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: touch the opponent. Something to watch. Uh. Nick Folk remained 285 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: perfect this season for the Jets, kicking four field goals, 286 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: and Rex Ryan got the better of his twin brother 287 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: Rob the Jets. The Jets upset the Saints at MetLife Stadium. Uh, 288 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: this is crazy. The Jets were beat forty nine last 289 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: week in Cincinnati, and now they turn around and this was, 290 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: you know, one of their best, probably their best all 291 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: around effort of the season. And I think the thing 292 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: that jumped out to me more than anything was, you know, 293 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: the Jets didn't enter the season with any anybody on 294 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: offense really, but their webtop weapon, Santonio Holmes, Jeff Cumberland, Cumby, 295 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: Jeremy Curly, Kellen Winslow. All these guys did not play. 296 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: Curly suffered a potentially serious elbow injury early in the game. 297 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: So these are the people that stepped in. Greg Salis, 298 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: Zach Sudfeld, David Nelson, Josh Cribs, all has beens and 299 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: never will be's. And they beat Drew Brees. And of 300 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: course this goes back to, uh, the defense. I said 301 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: on Friday, I should have picked the Jets. I didn't 302 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: take the Jets um kicking myself, but I did say that, 303 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: you know, their only chance is to really aggravate Breeze 304 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: and get in his face, and they did. They were 305 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: hitting them all game. Um, you know, so big win 306 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: for the Jets. Is it safe to say that Rex 307 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: is the Rob Gronkowski of the Ryan Brothers do. Yeah, 308 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: no love for bat Santa. He's been okay. Is like 309 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: Chris Gronkowski, is it robbed like oh and five now 310 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: against Rex? Yes, when they're coordinators are above you can 311 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: you know, you can make weird rules if you count 312 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: that when you know Robbie them in college but never 313 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: in the pros. Uh. Yeah. The other thing, Chris Ivory. 314 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: If this guy stays healthy, he's exactly what the Jets need, 315 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: which is kind of a bruising running back who can 316 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: take time off the clock. And Gino had a nothing game. 317 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: Gino Coaster was kind of silent today, but he didn't 318 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: make any mistakes. So the Jets are five and four, 319 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: and uh they are we could say it, they're a 320 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: legitimate playoff contender at this point. I agree in the 321 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: a f C, why not that last wild card spot 322 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: is going to come down to a mediocre team. The 323 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,199 Speaker 1: Jets are that team right now. They actually have the 324 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: worst point differential of any five and four team in 325 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: NFL history, So maybe a little bit of a little 326 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: bit of a mirage, but you have to give this 327 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: coaching staff so much credit for what they've done. Speaking 328 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: of Gino Coaster, what's up with Tom Brennaman stealing our 329 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: nickname for there now he dropped it twice in the 330 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: Panthers Falcons game today. I have reached out our council, 331 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: are around the league council. We're gonna try to make 332 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 1: some money off this spread the love we like it. 333 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: I mean, if if Tom Brennaman's listening to the podcast 334 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 1: What's Up, Tom, where's the silent? At dropping the uh 335 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: the A D line on this in the Bengals game, 336 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: he really is outright thieving. I just want to I 337 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: want to try to monetize the nickname if possible, so 338 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: I will be reaching out to our lawyers. We have 339 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 1: some very We're gonna put lytle the intern on finding 340 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: some lawyers and we're gonna look into that. But uh yeah, 341 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: great day to be a Jet fan. And they have 342 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 1: now won every odd week odd week the season and 343 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: lost every even weeks and I lost two four or 344 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: six eight, And now they have a buy next week 345 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: so they can't lose. Bad loss for the Saints too, 346 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: because they have to go to Seattle later this season. 347 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: They still have two left against the Panthers, so they 348 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: kind of opened the door for the Panthers to get 349 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 1: back in it and to what you said before we 350 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: move on. West uh Rex said this after the game. 351 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: I think it's clear that he should be the offensive 352 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: assistant Coach of the year in reference to the offensive 353 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: quarter day more Marty morning Wig that there is no 354 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: such thing as an offensive assistant Coach of the Year. 355 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: I just think that was funny that he made up 356 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: an award. Maybe we should give one for our end 357 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: of the season award. Thanks for all the feedback for 358 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,719 Speaker 1: the mid season wheres people liked it, a lot of 359 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: buzz buzz, Thank you, Thank you for everyone that listens 360 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: to the podcast and keep downloading. Wait, let's get some 361 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: stuff out there. Download it and raid it and leave comments. 362 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: Anything else. Tell your friends, tell your friends, tell your enemies, 363 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: tw NFL and if you have multi you have multiple 364 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: devices like an iPod and a computer, and just some 365 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: describing all of them and play them all simultaneously out 366 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: your windows. Yes, I don't know what stitchers, but we're 367 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: definitely on it and that's great. Um alright, moving on. 368 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: You know, I feel I just got a little bounce 369 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: of my step talking about the Jets. I'm excited. Uh 370 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 1: Cam Newton overcame a shaky start, He threw for one touchdown, 371 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,479 Speaker 1: ran for another, and the Panthers beat up on the 372 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: Falcons for their fourth straight win. That's also the fourth 373 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: straight game that the Panthers have scored thirty plus points. 374 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: West Is it all right to get really excited at 375 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: this point Panthers. I mean we're already we were about society. Yeah, 376 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: everybody should be excited about Wrong again? Did it again? 377 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 1: Fourth and one in the first quarter from the fourteen 378 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: yard line. They run play action find Greg Olsen for 379 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 1: a touchdown, because touchdowns are better than field goals. True story. 380 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: How did Jonathan Stewart look in this game? For pretty good? 381 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to say he looked like pre injury 382 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: Jonathan Stewart, but he looked like the best of their 383 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: running backs. He had some burst, he ran decisively, looked 384 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: good out of the backfield in the passing game. And 385 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: if he if we wait a few weeks and we 386 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: do start to see him as pre injury Jonathan Stewart, 387 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: he could be the best playmaker in that offense along 388 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: with Cam Newton. That's a big addition for a contender. 389 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: Did did you ever have a feeling that the Falcons 390 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: could win this game. I was actually surprised they were 391 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: close for much of it. I did not have a 392 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: feeling that could win this game. The Panthers were clearly 393 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 1: the better team. Um we suggested that Matt Ryan might 394 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: face plant and he now has seven interceptions in his 395 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: last two games, and for the first time in his career, 396 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: has back to back games with at least three interceptions 397 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: through his first pick six since two thousand ten. Hard 398 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: times for Matt Ryan. Thank you to the Falcons, by 399 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: the way for not making us feel bad about forking 400 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 1: you after only seven weeks because they're not coming back. 401 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: There's no coming back now and Tony Gonzalez will not 402 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 1: be traded. That's the only good thing for the Falcons 403 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: that there was no more speculation about Tony being ted. 404 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 1: Had a good day to day. He was getting open 405 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: all over the middle of the field. And basically, the 406 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: Panthers have one job stop Tony Gonzalez and they couldn't 407 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 1: do it. All right, Let's move on. The Washington Redskins 408 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 1: got um a Darryl Young. I'm just learning now who 409 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: Darrel Young is. Uh scored a four yard touchdown run 410 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 1: an overtime Sunday, his third touchdown of the game. Uh, 411 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: he's a fullback. He plays American football, giving the Redskins 412 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: a thirt win over the Chargers. I came into the 413 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: office today and Greg was just losing his mind watching 414 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: this game. Very fired up. Greg, tell us about this 415 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: one because Charges basically blew this one. They did. And 416 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: just to paint a picture, Darryl Young is the Tommy 417 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: Bohannon of the Washington Redskins. Does that mean anything to you, 418 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 1: Tommy Bohanon's your guy on the Jets. Grateful back. Uh, 419 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: this was very tough game to watch for Charger Nation, 420 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: of which which you are. I now consider myself a 421 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 1: Chargers fan. I jumped on three or four weeks ago, 422 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: and you were sitting next to Greg in the newsroom today, 423 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: you would have thought that he kicked the Patriots to 424 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 1: the curb and adopted the Chargers as his new team. 425 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,719 Speaker 1: They the Redskins tried to give this game away. Up 426 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 1: ten seven minutes to go. Uh, they blow that lead. 427 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: They do a terrible job mismanaging the clock, giving San 428 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 1: Diego way too much time. San Diego is driving, Philip 429 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: Rivers is playing well. At the end of the game, 430 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: they have three chances at the one foot line with 431 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: eighteen seconds left, they have a time out there, they 432 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: run it with Danny Woodhead instead of Ryan Matthews. They 433 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 1: still have to have a time out, and then they 434 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 1: throw two very low percentage passes and go to overtime. 435 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: And it was like, just give Ryan Matthews a chance. 436 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: You've got one of the toughest running backs in the league, 437 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: and they made it so hard on themselves. It goes 438 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: to overtime, and I said, whoever wins a coin toss 439 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: is going down and scoring a touchdown. The new overtime 440 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,439 Speaker 1: rules doesn't matter because both of these defenses could not 441 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: make a real stop for the game, and the Redskins 442 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: did this. What do we think of Mike McCoy. This 443 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: is not the first time we've questioned the Chargers game 444 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: management late in the game. He's got some NORV Turner tendencies, 445 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 1: which is that he's done a great job creating some 446 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 1: offense on this team out of nothing. I think he's 447 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: done a terrific job, but they've made some crazy decisions 448 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: and shown a tendency to make uh A losses out 449 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,679 Speaker 1: of wins. Give me an r G three report good, 450 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: I mean he played well overall, he missed a thrower too, 451 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 1: especially late in the game, that could have put it away. 452 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: But you know, he played, He was accurate, and he 453 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 1: played with reckless abandon You know we heard all offseason 454 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 1: how he's gonna be careful and protect himself. He took 455 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: a ton of hits in this game. Some of it 456 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: was running the read option, some of it was him 457 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 1: just running on his own. One was a huge third 458 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: down play where he dove for the first down and 459 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: got nailed, and it was like all that offseason stuff 460 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: was out the wind. Though, we need to win and 461 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: I don't know how long he can last like this, 462 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: but it was fun to watch. And the best player 463 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: on the field was Pierre Garson. I mean, this was 464 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 1: the best game he's ever had as a Red Skin. 465 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: He made three or four unbelievable catches, a couple of 466 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: them to keep drives going. I don't think they win 467 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: this game without Garsona. It was really those guys and 468 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: the running game making plays for r G three. There's 469 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: kind of a weird statistical anomaly going on with this team. 470 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: Was it two weeks ago Roy Halloo scored three touchdowns 471 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: and then today Darryl Young does and they have alf Morris. 472 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: That's a little bit odd that they are. These secondary 473 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: guys are scoring the trio of touchdowns. I I actually 474 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 1: got to watch a good portion of this game, and 475 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: you know, this isn't anything new, but I it's still 476 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 1: I get sad watching r G three with that giant 477 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: knee braids. He just he doesn't move very like even 478 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 1: kind of walks. The way he walks, he just doesn't 479 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: seem it is exciting. And I thought back to how 480 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 1: amazing it was last year when he was just, you know, 481 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: such a different player. He didn't he didn't seem to 482 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 1: be moving too well to me today. He didn't run 483 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: a ton, but the running game was effective partly because 484 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 1: of him, because they did a lot of options stuff. 485 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 1: They had Jordan's red run. Uh run one side of 486 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: the backfield. I mean they ran for over two hundred yards. 487 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: The Chargers defense could not stop Washington in general. I 488 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: had no faith that they would in overtime, and the 489 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: Charger's offense only stopped when it was stopping themselves. Keenan Allen, 490 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 1: who had a big game, statistically had a rough performance. 491 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: He had a huge drop to kill a drive. He 492 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: didn't fight for a ball on an interception. I think 493 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: the Chargers really, you know, imploded more than the Redskins winning. 494 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: To your point, Dan, I don't think we'll see pre 495 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: injury Griffin until he loses that knee brace. He insists 496 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: he's faster now than he was before the injury, but 497 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 1: you can't run as fast with that bulky brace. But 498 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: there were plays in that Bears game where he was 499 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: really explosive. I mean, he was making the defenders look 500 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,959 Speaker 1: so slow. So maybe he's not as explosive as he 501 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: was running, and I don't know if it's consisting. There's 502 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: I think there's a pretty significant difference, but he's still 503 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 1: more explosive than than most quarterbacks. I don't think his 504 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: movement was a problem for them, and he's accuracy. He's 505 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 1: always messing with that brace too. It's like it's it's 506 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: a every time you see him, it's you're constantly reminded 507 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 1: so big. He's always fidgeting with it, and I don't know. 508 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 1: It's just depressing to me because I thought when he 509 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: came into the league last year he was the most 510 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: exciting player we've seen him a long time. Whatever season 511 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: saving goal line stand I think for them, I don't 512 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 1: think they're going anywhere this year, but I think they 513 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 1: were done if they don't get this win. We did 514 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: count them out last year too. That's why I am 515 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: not staying there. Live three and five, all right, let's 516 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: move on. Stephen Hashka kicked a twenty seven yard field 517 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: goal with eight minutes playing overtime in the Seahawks stage 518 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: the biggest rally and franchise history to beat the Tampa 519 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: Bay Bucks four and overtime on Sunday. Just the fact 520 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: that this even came down to overtime was stunning. I 521 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 1: think we we did not and we weren't alone, but 522 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: on Friday's podcast, we didn't take this game very seriously. 523 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: And then Tampa Bay comes out and punches Seattle in 524 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 1: the mouth with twenty one straight points on the road. 525 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: It was weird, but you know, he actually got to 526 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: seven and a half and then seven early in the 527 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,439 Speaker 1: third quarter, and then Greg Siano and you know, we 528 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: don't have to pick on the guy every week until 529 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: he's history, but you know, let's do it. They basically 530 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: took the air out of the ball at seven and 531 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: thought they could run away and hide playing in that building, 532 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: which is not gonna work. Out and uh, you know, 533 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: ended up costing him the The Seattle started leaning hard 534 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 1: on Marshawn Lynch, who made plays and he kind of 535 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 1: Lynch took over and overtime led them down the field 536 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: and kicked the field goal. So the Seahawks, despite not 537 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 1: playing very well at all, uh, have two wins in 538 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,439 Speaker 1: the past six days. And uh, you know that's a 539 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 1: sign of a good team when you're winning when you're 540 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:50,479 Speaker 1: playing bad. That Shiano called gave me an idea. We 541 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: need to start a coaching tracker for like crucial decisions 542 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: and which coaches do it right and which coaches consistently 543 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 1: do it wrong. I think we can wreck that on 544 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: the podcast or on the site. Then Chrisley, I just 545 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: volunteered myself for that one. Um, And if you're looking, 546 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,719 Speaker 1: if you're a Bucks van and that I'm sorry if 547 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: you are. But for silver linings, Mike, Mike Lennon looks 548 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: pretty good. He he made some nice plays. He had 549 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 1: a really nice twenty yard touchdown past two taekwon Underwood 550 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: where he showed some nice footwork and some good touch. 551 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 1: And then this guy Mike Jones, Uh, you know, he 552 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 1: looked really good. He right, Mike jan excuse me, Mike James. 553 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: He ran for a season high a hundred fifty eight yards, 554 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: also through a little tebow asque jump pass for a touchdown. 555 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: He looks better than Doug Martin ever looked before he 556 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: got hurt this season, so maybe not last year, but 557 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: earlier this season. So that guy can play a little bit. 558 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: But you know, the Bucks are now oh and eight, 559 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: and you know, is Shiano gonna survive at this point? 560 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: I think that would be a surprise if he survived. 561 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: But I want your tune and now I am O 562 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: and eight, although you let's get an update. Have they 563 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: quit on Shiato this week? Because everyone's convinced, Oh they quit? 564 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: They're obviously not playing for him, So were they trying 565 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: when they got the big lead, but then they quit 566 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:10,959 Speaker 1: on him when they got the when they felt there 567 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: was I didn't see the game. I can't buzz. There 568 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: was a lot of buzz in the newsroom after the 569 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: field goal to end the game Shiano's history, but I 570 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: know it's ugly to blow a twenty one nothing lead, 571 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: but this game proves that they're still playing hard because 572 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: you know, they almost won the game. So I don't 573 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: think he gets fired this week, but this week, no, no, 574 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: I think he'll make it to the end of the season. Actually, 575 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: what how did the Seahawks offensive line look? They lost 576 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: Michael Bowie to an injury, Max Hunger suffered a concussion 577 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: um so that's something to watch, but unbalanced, they did 578 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: a better job in protection, and uh, you know the 579 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: Seahawks they rushed the ball very well, so you know 580 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: they they're not playing very well right now, but they're 581 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: eight and one, so they don't have to worry about 582 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: momentum until the playoffs are closer. They just need wins now. 583 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: They just need home field advantage and that's you know, 584 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: they gotta assist today from the New York Jets. They did, yes, 585 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: and that's also twelve straight wins at home for the Seahawks, 586 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: which ties the franchise. Russell Wilson has never lost at home. 587 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: No good job by him, alright. Moving forward, Tony Romo 588 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: through forty seven yards and two touchdowns, including the go 589 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: ahead score to Dwayne Harris. A lot of like no 590 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: name guys stepping up today. With thirty five seconds left, 591 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: Cowboys beat the Vikings three. You know, this was a 592 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: West This was a game that not not gonna get 593 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: excited about the Cowboys because they're so schizophrenic, But they've 594 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: blown this game before, so finishing and actually come coming 595 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: back is a nice little achievement. I feel sorry for 596 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: all of the people that were out there on social 597 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: media just waiting for Romo to collapse, and they didn't 598 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: get a chance to put their snark out into the 599 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: world today that I feel really bad for them. All 600 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: they have to do is win these types of games 601 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: and they can probably win the division. Now they shown 602 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: that they don't won't necessarily win these types of games easy, 603 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,479 Speaker 1: but this is kind of I think this is all 604 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: they need to do to get the eight or nine 605 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: wins and take the NFC East. One major concern for 606 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: them is DeMarco Murray averaged eight yards per carry today 607 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: and the only game of four carries. This has been 608 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: the most one dimensional offense in the NFL. They don't 609 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: run the ball. I thought that was supposed to change 610 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: this year. It was I don't know what's going on 611 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: with that. Well, they shouldn't have run it last week 612 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: because Joseph Randall doesn't look like an NFL player. Uh 613 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: So they gave up on that for a reason. Poor 614 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: Vikings though they get a good effort blow it. Christian Ponder, 615 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: by the way, will start on Thursday Night Football, so 616 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: get excited for TV again. They're on and if they're 617 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: on our network, it's gotta be a great game and 618 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: Ponder will keep his starting job at least for this week. 619 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson had a nice day. Uh had a big 620 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: long run and then had one of the best touchdown 621 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: runs of the year where he basically took three defenders 622 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: in the end zone. It made me think of Ray 623 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: Lewis a couple of weeks ago said that when he 624 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: saw locked eyes with Adrian Peterson on the field after 625 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: a grim lost to the Giants, that you know he 626 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: saw something in his eyes that he didn't want to see. 627 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: And you know he saw the same thing and Barry Sanders. 628 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: So I remember that he kind of hinted that Peterson 629 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 1: might retire early because so Leis wasn't there or something. 630 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: Ray Lewis spoke to Jesus who must have misinformed him, 631 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: because Uh, Adrian ran with a lot of purpose today, 632 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: So bad job by you, right. You know, a guy 633 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: has to do something impressive to get my wife to 634 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: instant message me. Uh Adrian Peterson is a monster. Yes, 635 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: she she must have been watching red zone or something 636 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: and there was that play and your wife watches she 637 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: watches a little football on Sundays. I'm proud. I'm proud 638 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: she does have her own fantasy team. Yes, my wife 639 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: has no idea what red zone is. Um, all right, 640 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: Moving on, Tom Brady, Greg get excited through first season 641 00:32:56,040 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: highs and yardage four thirty two yards, four touchdowns, Gronk 642 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 1: kind of career high nine catches. The Patriots destroyed the 643 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: Steelers one. This is, uh, kind of like those Patriots 644 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: wins we became accustomed to over the past couple of years. 645 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, Tommy's looking good, isn't he? Greg? 646 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: It was like a two thousand and ten game broke 647 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: out here. Uh. Rob Gronkowski is looking better than he 648 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: ever looked. I mean, he looks faster, just obviously is 649 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: the most physical tight end in the league, and he 650 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: just looks great. You have Danny Mendola going over a 651 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: hundred yards. You have Aaron Dopson kind of playing the 652 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: Dion Branch role. He goes over a hundred yards. Brady 653 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: had his sharpest game of the season, and they stuck 654 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 1: with Ridley as the primary backdal game. It's amazing. I 655 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: guess we shouldn't be surprised how much better they look 656 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,479 Speaker 1: when it's Gronk, A. Mendola and Ridley all on the 657 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: field together today, and and I thought, Hey, maybe they've 658 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: kind of found their mix and that's what they're gonna 659 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: stick with. We both saw, uh, Tom Brady, we saw 660 00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: something in his game last week where we thought he 661 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: look better than his numbers. But I don't think we 662 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: could expect this. I think I saw that this is 663 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: the first game in Patriots history where three different players 664 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: they had a hundred yards receiving. Yeah, that's true. He 665 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: had four thirty two yards and four touchdowns. He's finally 666 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 1: gonna be out of the Gabbard zone for good this 667 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: season after this. And he threw outside the numbers a 668 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: lot in this game. And he threw deep to Dobson 669 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: and a couple other times. And the Steelers defense is 670 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: almost unrecognizable at this point. They gave up the most 671 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: points and yards in the history of the franchise. There 672 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 1: was some coverage busts, especially early in the game, that 673 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 1: made it easier for the Patriots. This isn't just a 674 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: one game thing for the Steelers. They have given up 675 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 1: at least thirty four points three times, which is the 676 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 1: first time that's happened since. You know, when I go 677 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 1: into the we have our four committee gathering ahead of 678 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 1: Wednesday's podcast, I will be bringing in a big file 679 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 1: filled with stats and um, I'm gonna push hard for 680 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: the fork going into the Steelers, back deep deep into 681 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,280 Speaker 1: their body. You're gonna get some You're gonna get some arguments, 682 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: but I'm open minded to it. That's all I ask for. 683 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 1: It's all the committee could ask for. I can be 684 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,879 Speaker 1: swayed on that one. There's such a weird team now, 685 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: even in this game. It's like Ben Roethlisberger throws for 686 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 1: four hundred yards, he throws for four touchdowns. They do 687 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: some good things, but they can't ever put it all together. 688 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: The Brady picked on Shamarco Thomas like like he was 689 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,839 Speaker 1: the only player on the field. Wherever Shamarco was, they 690 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: basically just threw it at him. It's odd they drafted 691 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: him as a safety and they're playing him at cornerback. Well, 692 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 1: Ryan Clark got hurt in the game, and I and 693 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 1: Uh Taylor got hurt too in the second half, So 694 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: they were, they were down a couple of people that 695 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,839 Speaker 1: definitely helped Brady's cause. And any of you people out 696 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 1: there that started Tom Brady in fantasy, that means that 697 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,760 Speaker 1: you didn't listen to like idiots that work for fantasy 698 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: sites and said maybe you should drop Tom Brady. You 699 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: never dropped Tom Tom Brady, uh, and he showed you why. 700 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: And they're going into their by seven and two. I 701 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 1: think they need their offense to be this because the 702 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: defense isn't gonna be. They lost Steve Gregory in this game, 703 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: they lost Rob Ninkovich in this game. They keep getting 704 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 1: defensive players injured. But suddenly they're coming out of the 705 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: by seven and two. They're gonna get to lead back. 706 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: They're gonna get Vereen back, and these are a lot 707 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 1: of premier players. They're round. You're excited, Greg, but keep 708 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: you better keep winning because the New York Jets, the 709 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 1: New York Jets are in second place only two games back, 710 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: and the Patriots come out of it by at Carolina 711 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: and versus Denver. So that's about as hard as it 712 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: gets right now. Interesting Patriots Carolina. I love that alright. 713 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 1: Moving forward, Jason Campbell, Yes, Jason Campbell through three touchdown 714 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 1: passes to to Devon Bess, and the Browns ended on 715 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:46,760 Speaker 1: eleven game losing streak against the Ravens. Within, the Ravens 716 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,240 Speaker 1: are in trouble, folks. The Ravens are three and five. 717 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 1: They don't look good. Ray Rice stinks right now, and 718 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco is not good enough to put them on 719 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: his back and take them to the next level. Um 720 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 1: at least not now. He looks nothing like the guy 721 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:05,280 Speaker 1: from January. A lot of issues here. Meanwhile, the Browns 722 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 1: are four and five and in the mix. And Jason 723 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:12,439 Speaker 1: Campbell again, Jason Campbell, who everyone you know kinda once 724 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 1: he took over for Weed and it was assumed that 725 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 1: it would be just the end of the road for 726 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: the Browns. He's played two good games in a row. 727 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: He was great today through three touchdowns, and he iced 728 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,240 Speaker 1: the game with a long drive that covered fifteen plays 729 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 1: that basically ended any chance of a rap at Ravens 730 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 1: come back. Get excited, Cleveland. We should explain the weird 731 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 1: Jason Campbell phenomenon in our In our news, we am 732 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 1: an editor uh at NFL dot com, Nate Mike Coppinger, 733 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:42,320 Speaker 1: and you might understand if somebody's favorite player was Andrew 734 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 1: Luck or even case Keenum. But Mike Coppinger has a weird, 735 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 1: bizarre fetish for Jason Campbell. He told us him. He 736 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: told us that Campbell would turn the Brown season around 737 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 1: and Campbell would be electric. He has to be the 738 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 1: only person in America. Coppinger is a Redskins fan, so 739 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 1: he has he has some history with Campbell and you know, Cessler, 740 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: I didn't get a chance to talk to him. He 741 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 1: you know, he left before the game was over, but 742 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 1: I would imagine, and we'll ask him on Wednesday that 743 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 1: he's he's getting a little excited because with a very 744 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: good defense, Uh, they still have no running game. Mcgahey 745 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 1: is just awful. I think thirty one ye carries that's outrageous. 746 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: I mean mcgahey's own what's oddest in this game. There 747 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 1: are only there are only three NFL running backs with 748 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: under three yards per carry in at least seventy five carries, 749 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 1: and all were playing in this game, and all of 750 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 1: them averaged one point less than two yards per carry 751 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 1: in this game. It's a major issue. Greg. I think 752 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 1: you made the point downstairs also that yes, it's starting 753 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 1: to look like the Browns got the better of that 754 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 1: trade with the Colts, but it would have even a 755 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 1: mediocre Trent Richardson would be a huge upgrade over what 756 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,720 Speaker 1: they have right now. They could really use a league 757 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 1: average running back. It's time to see what they have 758 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 1: in Fozzy Winnaker, right And but yeah, and back to 759 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,360 Speaker 1: my point. If you take a good defense, uh, and 760 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,800 Speaker 1: a quarterback in Campbell, if he continues to play well, 761 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 1: there's no reason why they can't flirt with the playoffs. 762 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: Makes you wonder what they would be if Jason Campbell 763 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 1: was the Week one starter. Is that that crazy? The thing? 764 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 1: And for all the love the Ravens defense has received 765 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 1: this year, and most of it's deserved, I can think 766 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,919 Speaker 1: of two division games in the last three weeks where 767 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 1: their defense had a chance to make a stop at 768 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 1: the end of the game and try to set up 769 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 1: a win and they really couldn't get the stop. So 770 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,320 Speaker 1: in big spots if you're your defensive team, the Browns 771 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 1: went right through them at the end of the game. 772 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 1: It was impressive. Yes, and uh, just for funnel, take 773 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,799 Speaker 1: a quick look at their schedule. They go into a 774 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,799 Speaker 1: bye week. Now, nice timing for the bye. Then they 775 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,280 Speaker 1: have at Bengles without you know, Atkins home to Steelers, 776 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: home to Jags. So listen, they got a shot and 777 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 1: then they go to New England. So they really need 778 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 1: to take two of three after that by to be uh, 779 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 1: you know, considered a real contender. But we'll see. Sometimes 780 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 1: we hear from fans we don't talk about them enough, 781 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,279 Speaker 1: like the Ravens when they were doing well. I heard 782 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 1: the Ravens fans should be happy that we don't talk 783 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: about the Ravens that much because any other defending championship 784 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 1: team that would be three and five, that would be 785 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 1: all we're talking about. For some reason, we're just bored 786 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 1: by them and don't bother. Yes, okay, moving forward, Yes, 787 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 1: and finally Chris Johnson. Chris Johnson ran for a hundred 788 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 1: and fifty yards and two touchdowns. Chris Johnson, who Cessler 789 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,800 Speaker 1: and I acquired for our fantasy team Alison Brie uh 790 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 1: and the Titans beat former coach Jeff Fisher and the Rams. 791 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 1: Wes you watch this game, what was the most compelling 792 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 1: take you took out of the story of this game 793 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 1: really was Chris Johnson. He looked like c J two 794 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 1: K Chris Johnson and I bet that. Uh, this is 795 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,359 Speaker 1: the most yards he's ever rushed for in a game 796 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 1: where his longest carry was twenty four yards. He wasn't 797 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 1: a sustaining back. He got first downs, carried the offense, 798 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 1: looked explosive, was quicker through the whole, made parper cuts, 799 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,479 Speaker 1: broke arm tackles, which he hadn't done at any point 800 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,360 Speaker 1: this year. He was the most easiest back to tackle. 801 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 1: It seemed like I wonder if you know the news 802 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,240 Speaker 1: this week of Sean Green getting up to fifteen carries, 803 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: maybe a little lid fire. I think there has been 804 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 1: some criticism of Chris Johnson that he doesn't always play 805 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 1: as hard as he should, and maybe that did light 806 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 1: a fire under him. Well, I know he respects Chris 807 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 1: Wesleyan's opinion, and when he hears that Chris wesley it's 808 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 1: that big a Sean Green fan, and Sean Green could 809 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,879 Speaker 1: be coming gunning for him. He thought Sean Green would 810 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,279 Speaker 1: look good today too. He carried a couple guys into 811 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 1: the end zone. He had a twenty yards screen. They're 812 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,359 Speaker 1: running screen passes to a big back like Sean Green. 813 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,720 Speaker 1: This is a sneaky potential playoff team of the Titans. 814 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,719 Speaker 1: I've been talking about it for the last week that 815 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 1: I think they have a shot to sneak in there 816 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,279 Speaker 1: as the sixth seed in a in a watered down 817 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 1: a f C. And my guy Jarell Casey made a 818 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 1: game changing play. Kellen Clemens, big big quarterback like Kellen 819 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 1: Clemens is taking his team down the field, strip, sack, fumble, 820 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 1: Titans take it from there. We should mention Zach Stacy 821 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 1: looked great again. He touched the ball on half of 822 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:10,400 Speaker 1: their snaps and looked phenomenal. This guy he makes people 823 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 1: miss in tight spaces, not in open field, and I 824 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,800 Speaker 1: don't think many backs have that trait about a Tavon 825 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 1: Austin update zero catches have one nice return but basically 826 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 1: invisible on offense. I guess at this point with Kellen 827 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,360 Speaker 1: Clemens involved, you can't even really get an accurate cage, 828 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 1: but interesting to know. Okay, that's it for tonight's podcast. 829 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 1: We will be back Wednesday, where we will as we 830 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 1: discussed during the show, the four Committee will get together 831 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 1: and announced who has had the fork stuck deep between 832 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 1: the shoulder blades, ending their two thousand thirteen dreams. And 833 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,840 Speaker 1: we also preview Thursday night and we tend get excited, 834 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 1: but until then Mrs dan hansis signing off for the mailman. 835 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 1: The boss ricks behind the glass before slyly retail intend 836 00:42:54,760 --> 00:43:10,799 Speaker 1: until webstay