WEBVTT - “We Should Hang Out Sometime!” | Making Plans

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an on time Latino. I think only because my

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<v Speaker 1>dad was like, and he would talk about it a lot, like,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not We're not gonna be one of those Latinos.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna show up on time.

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<v Speaker 2>I am an on time Latino because I had friends,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've told you this before, I've had I had

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<v Speaker 2>friends sit me down once at dinner and they were like,

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<v Speaker 2>you cannot be fucking late anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my godate.

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<v Speaker 2>It was in New York and I was an hour

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<v Speaker 2>late for dinner and they were like, you can't be

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<v Speaker 2>late anymore. We're not gonna invite you anywhere anymore. And

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh shit, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. I was like, oh okay, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>More more and more, better, better, more, a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>more better, more, Welcome to more better a podcast, or

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<v Speaker 2>we stop pretending to have it all together and embrace

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<v Speaker 2>the journey of becoming a little.

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<v Speaker 1>More every day, or at least trying to. That's most

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<v Speaker 1>of Fumero, and that's Stephanie Beatrice. Welcome back to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi guys, what's up? What what have you done lately? That's

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<v Speaker 1>a little more better? Oh what's have done? That's a

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<v Speaker 1>little mobid I've been trying to get more better about

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<v Speaker 1>walking and like steps, it's really hard, you guys. I know.

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<v Speaker 1>There are days where like it goes really well just

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm like doing shit around the house and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like on the go and like happened to be on

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<v Speaker 1>my feet more. But then like days like today, like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting here recording a podcast, or like yesterday, I

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<v Speaker 1>was sitting on my couch reading scripts and then I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, okay, let me walk the dog to like

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<v Speaker 1>get a walk in, and like write, my step count

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<v Speaker 1>was still low, so like it's okay, I know, And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's why I want to say it too,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's like to really get like close to ten

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<v Speaker 1>thousand steps you need to walk for like you need

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<v Speaker 1>to take like an hour plus walk every day, and

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<v Speaker 1>like body has the time to not everybody has the time,

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<v Speaker 1>or sometimes you want to use that free hour to

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<v Speaker 1>like wait, lift or do a workout and like something else. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>something else. So I'm trying not to get down on

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<v Speaker 1>myself about it, and I don't want anyone else to

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<v Speaker 1>get down on their cells about it, yeow, even if

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<v Speaker 1>it just like a fifteen minute walk with the dog,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, before I go pick up the kids or

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<v Speaker 1>right after I pick up the kids. Like I'm like, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>it's something like it's a little something, just I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to like lower the the pressure on myself, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean, Because I think when I started, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, it's going to be a forty minute walk

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<v Speaker 1>forty five ye walk every day, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is really that hard. I can't fit this endto

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<v Speaker 1>the day. So now I'm like, you know what, fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>minutes counts. Like you heard like these women's call it.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a culty like workout that I was doing

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<v Speaker 2>for a while and they would call out your booty

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<v Speaker 2>call and you had to take a walk every morning

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<v Speaker 2>before you ate anything, and like you had to like

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<v Speaker 2>walk around the neighborhood for X amount of minutes or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool, Dan you you can do that, but like who

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<v Speaker 1>lives that life.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't get children dressed out the door for this

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<v Speaker 2>is what I'm saying. You have to wake up super

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<v Speaker 2>early to be able to do that, right, And then I.

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<v Speaker 1>Had fifteen minutes in the morning to sit and drink

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<v Speaker 1>coffee before I'm fucking or or like if I want

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<v Speaker 1>more time, we're waking up at six am. Like we're

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<v Speaker 1>waking up at six thirty, and I take fifteen or

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<v Speaker 1>twenty minutes to sit down and want like drink coffee

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<v Speaker 1>and like check my email, and then it's like off

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<v Speaker 1>to the fucking races, races, snacks, lunch, water bottles, hoodies,

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<v Speaker 1>chromebook in your backpack, it's a movie. Fucking brush your teeth,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Yeah, stop playing with the Rubik's cube, get dressed,

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<v Speaker 1>like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's hectic. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Liked adding onto that internalized pressure to you know, get

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<v Speaker 2>to some number every day.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>If it serves you, that's great. But if it's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm aware of this and I'm not not.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm being kind to myself about it, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to be more better. I'm kind to myself

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<v Speaker 1>about that. Yeah, that's great. How about you? What are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing lately? Bitch? I steamed all my shirts. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, that is such a big one.

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<v Speaker 3>Girl.

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<v Speaker 1>I bought one of those. Okay, have you ever seen like.

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<v Speaker 2>On TV if you're watching a show where like they're

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<v Speaker 2>getting styling or whatever, and they have those giant steamers

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<v Speaker 2>with like the big stand and the yeah, the like

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<v Speaker 2>I've bought myself one of those as a present. I

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<v Speaker 2>bought myself a motherfucking steamer as a gift to myself.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, fucking by this fancy steamer, and does

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<v Speaker 2>that ship work in good? Oh my god, you can

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<v Speaker 2>I burn. I did burn my hand.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm learning.

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<v Speaker 2>You can hang the clothes on the steamer, like you

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<v Speaker 2>can get a shirt on the steamer, and like I

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<v Speaker 2>just listened to a podcast and steams like thirty shirts.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm in heaven. I can wear any

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I do this thing where I wash my clothes,

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<v Speaker 2>I dry them. A lot of my clothes are hanging

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<v Speaker 2>dry because I wear a lot of vintage and they're

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<v Speaker 2>in the closet and they're all wrinkles. So then when

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<v Speaker 2>I go to get dressed, I'm wearing the same fucking

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<v Speaker 2>five shirts because everything is wrinkled.

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<v Speaker 1>So I fucking see my shit. Yes, yes, Or it's

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<v Speaker 1>like the most frustrating thing is like you're running a

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<v Speaker 1>little late and you're trying to get dressed quickly and

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<v Speaker 1>you have an outfit idea in your mind and you

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<v Speaker 1>go to grab it and it's fucking wrinkled, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>like shit, and then you're trying to do the math

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<v Speaker 1>of like do I have enough time? And like I

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<v Speaker 1>have a pretty good handheld steamer, but like that shit

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<v Speaker 1>takes a long time, like it doesn't always do the job.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean you talking about like getting the for

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<v Speaker 1>real steamer. I'm like literally looking around the room, like

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<v Speaker 1>do I have room? Could I get one? Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>You do. It's life changing and it has a roller

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<v Speaker 2>like it's on wheels. I wield it from my eyes,

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<v Speaker 2>stick it in my office in the corner, and I

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<v Speaker 2>wheeled it into my closet and I listened to a

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<v Speaker 2>podcast for thirty minutes and I got through so many shirts.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like shocked, And now I can wear them all. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you can wear them because that's my more better.

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<v Speaker 1>They're seeing they're crispy. They're crispy bitches. That's a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>More better. What are we talking about today, Melissa? We

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<v Speaker 1>are talking about getting more better at making plans? My fave.

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<v Speaker 1>I love making plans. You I love making plans.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me I miss I do miss the spontaneity of

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<v Speaker 2>you know, in New York, I feel like you're always

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<v Speaker 2>running into people and that was something fun that would happen,

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<v Speaker 2>like because you're on that little island or even in

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<v Speaker 2>Brooklyn or Queens, you see people here. It's less likely

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<v Speaker 2>unless you start community building in your own community in

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<v Speaker 2>LA and then you run into people and that's fun. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>but I love meet me at X for lunch at

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<v Speaker 2>one point thirty on Tuesday the twenty seventh, Delicious put

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<v Speaker 2>it in my calendar.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I will over book myself and that's something that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm working on as a person.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but I love making plans. I love it. I

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<v Speaker 1>already told you when my Christmas party was, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>save the day you did. I was so impressed. I

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<v Speaker 1>think for me, I am the opposite. I don't mind

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<v Speaker 1>making plans. But I think one being in this job

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<v Speaker 1>where it's so hard to like plan ahead, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like people like you know, like you, I mean, yours

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<v Speaker 1>is different because it's December and we almost always know that,

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<v Speaker 1>like we're probably not going to be working close to Christmas, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but like people will be like, I'm having a party

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<v Speaker 1>in three months, and I'm like, I if I'm here, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be there. Like it's hard to commit to things.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that's just like deeply ingrained in me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I get like nervousness around plans. And then the

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<v Speaker 1>other part is, like you said, living in New York

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<v Speaker 1>for so long, we never made fucking plans like we

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<v Speaker 1>occasionally did. But even those bigger plans, like we're all

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<v Speaker 1>like everybody meet at our police and we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>go to dinner and then we're gonna like we got

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<v Speaker 1>a reservation and we're gonna go to the club. After

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<v Speaker 1>that was still like week of plans. And most of

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<v Speaker 1>the time our plans were just like, oh, let's walk

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<v Speaker 1>to this restaurant and like see if so and so

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<v Speaker 1>is around, or somebody calling you and being like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in your neighborhood. Can I stop by? Like our friends

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<v Speaker 1>used to stop by our apartment all the time, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just hold hold on and back up to like

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<v Speaker 1>that we're going to go to the club. Then we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna tell you about like when we were I would

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<v Speaker 1>like live in New York in my twenties. My god,

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<v Speaker 1>the clur but cre those were like those were nights.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I brought that up because those were nights, those

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<v Speaker 1>were a special night. We didn't go to the club

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<v Speaker 1>all the time, so when we did do a club night,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was usually with a group of people. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a little bit more planned because also my bougie

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<v Speaker 1>husband hates waiting online, so we only went to clubs

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<v Speaker 1>that we knew we could get right in. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was like those working this weekend or so and so

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<v Speaker 1>knows the bouncer or whatever, and yeah, yeah, so uh

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<v Speaker 1>those husband also hates waiting online. He hates it, hates

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<v Speaker 1>it in line, in line.

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<v Speaker 2>For those of you that didn't spend any time in

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<v Speaker 2>New York. Ever, for some reason, New Yorkers say waiting

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<v Speaker 2>online instead of inline.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I don't know why is that a New York thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a New York thing. Yeah, I'm waiting online.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you would never say, like, oh, you in the Midwestern,

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<v Speaker 2>not like I'm waiting in line. You're like, I'm waiting

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<v Speaker 2>in line at Starbucks. No, I'm waiting online at Starbucks.

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<v Speaker 1>Waiting online. Yeah yeah, yeah, I guess not a Starbucks ad.

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<v Speaker 1>But Starbucks talk to us if you want to sponsor us.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah. So then moving to LA I felt like

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<v Speaker 1>it was a big transition for us, like and having

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<v Speaker 1>the realization of, like, oh, if we want to have

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<v Speaker 1>more of a social life, we need to make some plans,

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<v Speaker 1>like if we want to see our friends, we need

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<v Speaker 1>to put it in the books, and you have to

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<v Speaker 1>put it in the calendar. You have to you have

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<v Speaker 1>to put it in the calendar. And it's uh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not always like my go to I also like I

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<v Speaker 1>will also have the tendency to overbook myself sometimes and

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<v Speaker 1>then you know, there's no worse feeling than like it's

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<v Speaker 1>the day of the thing and you're like, I'm fucking

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<v Speaker 1>exhausted and now I have to like muster up the

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<v Speaker 1>energy to go to this thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>And but sometimes like you do just have to show up,

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<v Speaker 1>like depending on what it is, right, because you want

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<v Speaker 1>to be a good friend, or you're supporting someone or

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<v Speaker 1>you're supporting your unity. When it's not that, when it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a dinner and you're like I can't today, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry. Sometimes that's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think that showing up for plans with friends,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, I mean we're specifically really kind of talking

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<v Speaker 2>about like.

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<v Speaker 1>Socializing, right, Like I think right.

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<v Speaker 2>Social plans are very important to me because if I

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<v Speaker 2>don't plan it, I don't have friends. And that's something

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<v Speaker 2>that like, I'm not good at texting.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not on social media like all the time because

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<v Speaker 2>I took it off my phone.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be back on, I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys like I don't message over Instagram, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's how a lot of people message lately, and so

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<v Speaker 2>like if I don't reach out and try to figure

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<v Speaker 2>something out, we're never gonna see each other, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean. So, like it's important, Like we have

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<v Speaker 2>a small group of friends, you and I who like

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<v Speaker 2>we plan a dinner and that dinner is prioritized and

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<v Speaker 2>it's usually every four or five months, but we prioritize

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<v Speaker 2>that dinner because otherwise we won't see those people.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, it's important, you know. Yeah, I agree, I agree,

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<v Speaker 1>it's true. I'm also not. I mean, I guess I

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<v Speaker 1>am a text I try. I have a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>long distance close friends, so we do try to schedule

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<v Speaker 1>like phone calls because otherwise, like it's too much time

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<v Speaker 1>and then you're like don't know what's going on with

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<v Speaker 1>the person, and oh my god, yeah, and it's like

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<v Speaker 1>like it makes me really sad, like and I only

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that's only like four people, like four people

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<v Speaker 1>really that I have that with But yeah, you're right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>if I don't make friend plans or social plans, like

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<v Speaker 1>I won't see anyone. I think because of the name

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<v Speaker 1>Ture of La too, and the way the city is

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not a walking city, and it's everything is

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<v Speaker 1>so spread out, and like, yeah, I'll only see like

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<v Speaker 1>the few neighbors that I'm friends with, right Like, but that.

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<v Speaker 2>Friends, Like, that's a lot of places, right Like, that's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot. A lot of cities in the United States

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<v Speaker 2>are built like their car cities. There are a few

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<v Speaker 2>cities that are walking cities, but a lot of cities

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<v Speaker 2>and neighborhoods and suburbs are built so that you have

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<v Speaker 2>to get in your car to go places. And I think,

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<v Speaker 2>I think practicing making plans is you know, my my

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<v Speaker 2>social calendar.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm not going to show you my phone

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<v Speaker 1>because it's over there and I don't want to get up.

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<v Speaker 2>But on my calendar, like everything's color coded and this

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that's like for fun, I color code in a

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<v Speaker 2>certain color so that when I open the calendar and

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<v Speaker 2>I can look at it and I'm like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>there's fun stuff coming up for me. Oh that's a

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<v Speaker 2>good idea. But everything is blocked off. And not everything.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not cuckoo boots.

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<v Speaker 2>But I blocked stuff off because if I don't like

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<v Speaker 2>and now I'm talking about work stuff too, like I've

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<v Speaker 2>had I've had double bookings in the past where I

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<v Speaker 2>booked myself for this thing, and then I also had like,

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<v Speaker 2>for example.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, I just got like small level of

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<v Speaker 1>panic as you yes, at.

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<v Speaker 2>I did two jobs, Like I double booked two jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>One time I missed a job. This was before I

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<v Speaker 2>was like using my Google calendar. I was like so

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<v Speaker 2>devastated and mad at myself, so mad at myself, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I realized I just needed to start, even if

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't have like the time yet, Like when I

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<v Speaker 2>got the email that was like it's probably going to

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<v Speaker 2>be on this day roughly this time, I would block

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<v Speaker 2>that off immediately in my calendar. Yes, because and I

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<v Speaker 2>did this, you know, this is something that I still

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<v Speaker 2>have to work on.

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<v Speaker 1>I did this the other day. Remember we were on

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<v Speaker 1>the phone and I was like, I audition right now.

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<v Speaker 2>It sucked and it was for a project that I

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<v Speaker 2>really wanted to and like they were texting me, I

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<v Speaker 2>was on the phone with you and they were texting

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<v Speaker 2>me like, hey, where are you, Like you're supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>be here, and I just didn't read the email closely

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<v Speaker 2>close read your emails, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I just had the wrong time. I had the

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<v Speaker 1>wrong time. It was at like noon and you thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was at one.

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<v Speaker 2>I just like it was so And then I you know,

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<v Speaker 2>jumped on the audition and I was like, fuck it,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna do it with no makeup and whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was fine. I haven't heard anything, but like

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, probably it's gonna be a no.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean I think stuff like that is just

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<v Speaker 2>a good I mean, that's side note. That's personal growth

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<v Speaker 2>for me because five years ago, even three years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>I would have been beating myself up for that so bad.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, you're so stupid, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Dumb, fucked up, like I had like this job or.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever, and it's like, you know what, this happens, and

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<v Speaker 2>it happens. Yeah, it really did suck.

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<v Speaker 1>It sucks. It's also like, you know, when you're in

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<v Speaker 1>more of a career that's freelance based like ours, where

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<v Speaker 1>you're in different places for different times, for different things

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<v Speaker 1>all the time, and you have kids and you have

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<v Speaker 1>a spouse and you have friends. Like I say, my

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<v Speaker 1>calendar is color coded, although I really like the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of having a color for fun stuff and I think

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to start doing that. But we started doing

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<v Speaker 1>a family calendar a couple of years ago, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was life changing for us because we all, like David's

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<v Speaker 1>also an actor, and so like we put everything in

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<v Speaker 1>the calendar. Doctor's appointments, when we're working, how long we're working.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he's about to do an episode of the Pit.

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<v Speaker 1>So he was taking a long time to put his

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<v Speaker 1>days into this. And I was like, put it in

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<v Speaker 1>the calendar. Put in the calendar. Yeah, I need your

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<v Speaker 1>days on the calendar. Yeah, put it in the calendar.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta put it in. And I found a conflict

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<v Speaker 1>like right away, and I was like shit, and you

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<v Speaker 1>have the school calendars in there. That was what I found.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, shit, this is a noon dismissal day,

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<v Speaker 1>damn it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it's important, and it's like, you know, even

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<v Speaker 2>just by us talking about this right now, I'm hopeful

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<v Speaker 2>that somebody is listening to this going like oh shit,

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<v Speaker 2>like maybe we could use a family calendar.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we could like a family calend Everything on our

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<v Speaker 1>phones a huge huge if you're a family and you're

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<v Speaker 1>not using a family calendar, like it's huge. It's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's huge, it's huge. It's a big, big change. I like,

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<v Speaker 1>we we were getting like like annoyed with each other

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<v Speaker 1>so many times for like not knowing, well I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know that you had that, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, like, just every literally everything goes

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<v Speaker 1>in the calendar. Yeah, lunch with someone goes in the

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<v Speaker 1>family calendar, like so like everything, yes, because like and

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<v Speaker 1>here's the other thing.

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<v Speaker 2>After that audition, after that audition that I fucked up

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<v Speaker 2>the timing, I invited my agent's assistance to my calendar

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<v Speaker 2>because I was like, that's smart. I don't need you

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<v Speaker 2>guys to put things in here. But if I if

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<v Speaker 2>you see that I have something, if you know that

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<v Speaker 2>I've got an audition coming up, and you see it, conflict,

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<v Speaker 2>just double check me. That's all Like more eyes on it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not expecting them to catch all my mistakes, but right,

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<v Speaker 2>more eyes on it couldn't hurt, right, And now they

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<v Speaker 2>also get a little peek into when.

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<v Speaker 1>I take bloodies more better, more better.

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<v Speaker 2>I think one of My least favorite things is the

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<v Speaker 2>generalized sort of like, oh, we should hang out, which

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<v Speaker 2>happens so often in LA and like.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the accepted tagline to the end of any conversations

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<v Speaker 1>hang out, let's get coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't say that that shit to me unless you are

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<v Speaker 2>fucking serious, because I yes like people.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to make new friends.

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<v Speaker 2>So like, if you say that shit to me, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna follow up, and then I look like the dumb ass.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, hey, what's up? You know, Like, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't say that shit to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I truly. Okay, I have a question for you. If

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<v Speaker 1>you are the winning to say it, do you also

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<v Speaker 1>think you should be the one to initiate it?

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<v Speaker 2>Not necessarily okay, because I think the saying let's hang out,

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<v Speaker 2>let's hang out, let's get coffee, is an invitation to

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<v Speaker 2>the other person to be like I would like to

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<v Speaker 2>do that. Oh, so you feel like if you say it,

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<v Speaker 2>it's more on the other person to initiate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, the invitation has been given. Yeah, that's interesting. I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like that.

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<v Speaker 2>If I want to get like real, like you need

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<v Speaker 2>to be more fruit, then I will straight up be

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<v Speaker 2>like I would love to get coffee with you. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you do you want to let me text you right now?

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<v Speaker 2>And blah blah blah blah blah. Right, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm aggressive about it, I will be aggressive about it.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem is for me that.

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<v Speaker 2>Aggressiveness sometimes reads as a little bit needy, and then

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<v Speaker 2>people who were like.

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<v Speaker 1>Ooh, I like you like you, cannot picture you giving

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<v Speaker 1>off any needy vibes at all. I feel like I've

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<v Speaker 1>never seen that color on you, and I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know I'm saying it like maybe it's your own

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<v Speaker 1>insecurity about yourself. I don't know, I just really maybe.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, here's the thing, I have your social situation

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<v Speaker 1>confident that I feel like I've been in social situations

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<v Speaker 1>where I'm like, from you, I'm like, let's hang out,

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<v Speaker 1>let's hang out, you know, give me your number and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll text you. And I text people and then I

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<v Speaker 1>never hear from them, And yeah, what did I do?

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<v Speaker 1>What did I say? What did I think? I like blaky?

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<v Speaker 1>I think people are just blaky. Okay, maybe it's I

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<v Speaker 1>try to be really good about not saying that unless

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it. Yes, then I have been the reason

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<v Speaker 1>I asked about how you view like who should initiate?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that then I haven't initiated because I've been like,

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<v Speaker 1>well I said it, maybe they don't want to, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I get in my head about it and then I

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<v Speaker 1>don't do anything and then nothing happens, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I'm one of those assholes that was like

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<v Speaker 1>we should hang out and like didn't, so I should.

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<v Speaker 2>Change the way we I mean, I was just thinking

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<v Speaker 2>we should hang out, right, Like our mutual friend Lena

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<v Speaker 2>always says, you then you should all over yourself. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so maybe it's like I would love to hang out

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<v Speaker 2>with you, because that's like a little more invitation, not

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<v Speaker 2>like a generalized sort of right nothing statement. Yes, as opposed,

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<v Speaker 2>it's very it's a very la quote unquote like thing

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<v Speaker 2>to say let's hang out, as opposed to directly saying

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<v Speaker 2>I would love to hang out with you sometime. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>get coffee or something. Yeah, you know, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if that be more specific.

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<v Speaker 1>So it doesn't feel like the general because literally everyone

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<v Speaker 1>says it in LA like. Now I'm so like cynical

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<v Speaker 1>about it. When I hear it, I'm just like okay, now,

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I I.

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<v Speaker 1>Or I take it as like I guess I've gotten. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>it depends on who it is, because I'm thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>somebody that said it to me this past week and

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<v Speaker 1>who I genuinely adore, and I do think they were

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<v Speaker 1>going to try to hang out. Drop their name, call

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<v Speaker 1>them out. But I it was Justina, Justina Machata. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I but like so like when it's from someone

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<v Speaker 1>like that, I'm like, oh, I know that she and

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<v Speaker 1>I really mean it, and if it doesn't happen, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not because we didn't want to, Like I don't. No, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's different because you're already friend. Like it's like almost

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<v Speaker 1>like like it's the thought that counts, Like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the sentiment is there, right, whether it's of us, make

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<v Speaker 1>it actually happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Because you're already friends and you see each other socially already.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's a different thing versus like someone that

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<v Speaker 2>you don't know that well that you want to get

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<v Speaker 2>to know better. Better, Yes, which is that does take

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<v Speaker 2>more effort. I find that I aggressively will be like,

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<v Speaker 2>let's get lunch on this, give me some dates that

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<v Speaker 2>you're available, Like I did that to my friend the

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<v Speaker 2>other day. I was like, give me some times that

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<v Speaker 2>you can get lunch. And he was like, well, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>free on this day. And I was like one o'clock

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<v Speaker 2>at joy, you know, like I was aggressive.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you did that to me when I got back

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<v Speaker 1>from Atlanta. But I loved it. It made me feel

0:23:48.680 --> 0:23:51.480
<v Speaker 1>loved I loved it it. I do think it's like

0:23:52.480 --> 0:23:54.399
<v Speaker 1>to see me that makes it feel good.

0:23:54.880 --> 0:23:59.600
<v Speaker 2>Not everybody will do it because everybody's busy, and we

0:23:59.760 --> 0:24:01.520
<v Speaker 2>don't prioritize our friendships.

0:24:01.520 --> 0:24:04.280
<v Speaker 1>We oh, especially when we're.

0:24:04.080 --> 0:24:06.919
<v Speaker 2>Busy, Especially like if you're younger, if you're listening to

0:24:06.920 --> 0:24:09.760
<v Speaker 2>this podcast and you're in your twenties, like you might

0:24:09.840 --> 0:24:11.480
<v Speaker 2>prioritize your friendships more.

0:24:11.840 --> 0:24:14.840
<v Speaker 1>And that's great. That's a healthy way to be. Yeah,

0:24:14.920 --> 0:24:16.920
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm building also, like a lot of your

0:24:16.960 --> 0:24:19.760
<v Speaker 1>friendship's for life, hopefully exactly exactly.

0:24:20.200 --> 0:24:23.399
<v Speaker 2>So like as you get older, I think it becomes

0:24:24.040 --> 0:24:26.719
<v Speaker 2>less of a priority, but is really important. I mean,

0:24:26.760 --> 0:24:29.760
<v Speaker 2>when my mom moved to she lives half the year

0:24:29.760 --> 0:24:31.880
<v Speaker 2>in La now and she lives half the year in Houston.

0:24:31.880 --> 0:24:34.040
<v Speaker 2>She kind of goes back and forth, and when she

0:24:34.240 --> 0:24:37.639
<v Speaker 2>moved here, one of her big priorities is making friends,

0:24:37.720 --> 0:24:41.080
<v Speaker 2>and so she like joined a book club, she joined.

0:24:40.840 --> 0:24:42.000
<v Speaker 1>The gym near her.

0:24:42.359 --> 0:24:46.879
<v Speaker 2>She got a membership to the Huntington Gardens, Like she

0:24:47.080 --> 0:24:50.359
<v Speaker 2>volunteers at her church, and part of that is like

0:24:50.520 --> 0:24:55.720
<v Speaker 2>she was building a community here so that she knows that, like, well,

0:24:55.720 --> 0:24:57.280
<v Speaker 2>on this day, I have yoga class and I'll see

0:24:57.280 --> 0:24:58.960
<v Speaker 2>these ladies. And on this day I have book club

0:24:59.000 --> 0:25:01.080
<v Speaker 2>and I'll see these people. This day I volunteer and

0:25:01.119 --> 0:25:03.639
<v Speaker 2>I'll see these people. So like socializing is kind of

0:25:03.680 --> 0:25:06.800
<v Speaker 2>built into her life because like that helps you.

0:25:07.920 --> 0:25:08.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know it helps you.

0:25:08.920 --> 0:25:11.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean we have some nerd time stuff about that too,

0:25:11.040 --> 0:25:14.879
<v Speaker 2>but like I do think like socializing and having plans

0:25:16.040 --> 0:25:18.600
<v Speaker 2>keeps you active and your brain active in a way

0:25:18.680 --> 0:25:21.159
<v Speaker 2>that I think can extend your life.

0:25:21.200 --> 0:25:25.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, oh yeah, the other side, Yeah, how important

0:25:25.320 --> 0:25:28.679
<v Speaker 1>like socializing and relationships are to like longevity, and like

0:25:29.040 --> 0:25:32.119
<v Speaker 1>it's there's study after study, right.

0:25:32.600 --> 0:25:37.359
<v Speaker 2>Oh, but I do want to talk about this. The

0:25:38.119 --> 0:25:43.520
<v Speaker 2>study that finds that the optimal amount of time to

0:25:43.560 --> 0:25:45.240
<v Speaker 2>spend with friends what was it?

0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:48.600
<v Speaker 1>It was like an hour? It was an hour and

0:25:48.680 --> 0:25:50.800
<v Speaker 1>forty five, no, forty nine minutes.

0:25:54.320 --> 0:25:56.040
<v Speaker 2>What if you came to my house to the Christmas

0:25:56.080 --> 0:25:58.080
<v Speaker 2>party and then I kicked everybody out after hours?

0:25:58.680 --> 0:26:03.360
<v Speaker 1>But I have so many questions about how they arrived

0:26:03.400 --> 0:26:05.760
<v Speaker 1>at this in this study, do you know what I mean?

0:26:05.880 --> 0:26:07.920
<v Speaker 1>It was like they're looking right, so they're like looking

0:26:07.920 --> 0:26:11.520
<v Speaker 1>at the minutes going, and then they're like conversation, they

0:26:11.560 --> 0:26:14.119
<v Speaker 1>ran out of things to say. Now just fascinating, right,

0:26:14.200 --> 0:26:17.080
<v Speaker 1>and like you know, and they're like clocking the time

0:26:17.119 --> 0:26:20.320
<v Speaker 1>and they're averaging. But I think that that is also

0:26:20.840 --> 0:26:24.000
<v Speaker 1>I think I hard disagree with it. I am like,

0:26:24.119 --> 0:26:26.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I need a two hour hang. I need

0:26:26.680 --> 0:26:31.000
<v Speaker 1>a two hour hang at minimum. If you're a close friend.

0:26:31.440 --> 0:26:35.800
<v Speaker 1>If you're like a close friend, you're like in one

0:26:35.840 --> 0:26:37.480
<v Speaker 1>of my best friends just came over the other night

0:26:37.520 --> 0:26:40.240
<v Speaker 1>and she came over. She was like saw that I

0:26:40.280 --> 0:26:43.280
<v Speaker 1>was stressed out about some things, and she was like,

0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:45.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna come over on Tuesday night and I was like, great,

0:26:45.200 --> 0:26:48.240
<v Speaker 1>I'll make dinner. And she was so right, like I

0:26:48.280 --> 0:26:51.000
<v Speaker 1>needed friend time. I needed to like invent about this thing.

0:26:51.640 --> 0:26:58.040
<v Speaker 1>And she was here for about two hours maybe two

0:26:58.040 --> 0:26:59.120
<v Speaker 1>and a half. It was perfect.

0:26:59.720 --> 0:26:59.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:03.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was like I feel lighter, I feel so

0:27:03.560 --> 0:27:06.400
<v Speaker 1>much better, Like thank you for coming over, like and

0:27:06.400 --> 0:27:08.520
<v Speaker 1>seeing that I needed the top friend time and like

0:27:09.600 --> 0:27:11.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, and she needed it too. She like text

0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:12.680
<v Speaker 1>me the next day she was like, oh my god,

0:27:12.680 --> 0:27:15.240
<v Speaker 1>I slept so good. I was like out by nine o'clock,

0:27:15.480 --> 0:27:18.000
<v Speaker 1>like because I think I just like a lot of

0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:20.800
<v Speaker 1>my stress was relieved and it was just great for

0:27:20.880 --> 0:27:21.440
<v Speaker 1>both of us.

0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:25.600
<v Speaker 2>And I'm glad you like accepted it too, because I

0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:27.480
<v Speaker 2>think sometimes it's hard to be like, oh, I don't know,

0:27:27.600 --> 0:27:30.240
<v Speaker 2>my house is a mess, so like I'm do whatever,

0:27:30.520 --> 0:27:33.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, Like for some people like get really caught

0:27:33.200 --> 0:27:36.280
<v Speaker 2>up in that kind of stuff, like I can only

0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:37.960
<v Speaker 2>have people over when the house is clean, or I

0:27:38.000 --> 0:27:40.280
<v Speaker 2>can only do this when like but I had to

0:27:40.320 --> 0:27:42.480
<v Speaker 2>cook dinner. It's like you can't just make plans with

0:27:42.520 --> 0:27:44.880
<v Speaker 2>a friend that's like come over while I do this thing.

0:27:45.680 --> 0:27:49.359
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, come over and hang out while I you know,

0:27:50.359 --> 0:27:51.000
<v Speaker 2>she has come.

0:27:50.920 --> 0:27:53.520
<v Speaker 1>Over both her when I was like, yeah, packing for

0:27:53.560 --> 0:27:56.040
<v Speaker 1>like a family vacation. Yeah, just like laying on my

0:27:56.040 --> 0:27:59.560
<v Speaker 1>bed while I like pas, yes, yes, you know, venting

0:27:59.640 --> 0:28:01.080
<v Speaker 1>or bitch about whatever I need to.

0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:07.600
<v Speaker 2>Yes, those those are like spontaneous, Like it is great

0:28:07.640 --> 0:28:10.480
<v Speaker 2>to make plans, but it's also like those spontaneous like

0:28:10.960 --> 0:28:13.560
<v Speaker 2>you seem like you need time with me or I

0:28:13.800 --> 0:28:16.000
<v Speaker 2>want to spend time with you and support you through

0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:19.159
<v Speaker 2>this thing, right, and like that there has to be

0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:21.440
<v Speaker 2>room for that too, Like you can't just plan your

0:28:21.800 --> 0:28:25.639
<v Speaker 2>calendar and life to the nth degree and then be like,

0:28:25.880 --> 0:28:28.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, there's no room for spontaneity.

0:28:28.160 --> 0:28:34.359
<v Speaker 1>That sucks. Yeah, yeah, like trying to have a little

0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:35.320
<v Speaker 1>balance of both.

0:28:36.520 --> 0:28:40.040
<v Speaker 2>By the way, this yeah study, this one hour and

0:28:40.080 --> 0:28:42.160
<v Speaker 2>forty nine minutes. I don't know how much I believe

0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:46.280
<v Speaker 2>it because it was commissioned by a coffee company, Like,

0:28:47.480 --> 0:28:51.400
<v Speaker 2>so you know, it was like your top bonding experiences

0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:53.959
<v Speaker 2>coffee with friends, which is like, of course the fucking

0:28:54.360 --> 0:28:55.320
<v Speaker 2>study says that shit.

0:28:56.880 --> 0:29:01.360
<v Speaker 1>Wait, like I do like having coffee handling canceling plans.

0:29:01.680 --> 0:29:05.719
<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about canceling plans. Okay, I love say you

0:29:05.800 --> 0:29:09.680
<v Speaker 1>love canceling plans? I deal, It is fun. Sometimes you

0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:13.280
<v Speaker 1>just need to cancel. Sometimes you do need to cancel.

0:29:13.640 --> 0:29:16.959
<v Speaker 1>Do you have a go to for canceling? Like do

0:29:17.000 --> 0:29:20.120
<v Speaker 1>you do a little white lie? Do you tell the truth?

0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:34.560
<v Speaker 1>Do you blame your kid? Do you more better? More better?

0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:36.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to tell this story.

0:29:37.920 --> 0:29:42.320
<v Speaker 2>I was working on a project, and I prior to

0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 2>working on that project, this is this is related to

0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:49.040
<v Speaker 2>making plans putting things in your calendar, right, Like I

0:29:49.080 --> 0:29:51.600
<v Speaker 2>can be I overbook myself all the time, and I'll

0:29:51.640 --> 0:29:53.200
<v Speaker 2>be like, yeah, I'll have the energy to do that.

0:29:53.240 --> 0:29:53.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to do that.

0:29:53.960 --> 0:29:57.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to do that because right I still and

0:29:57.280 --> 0:29:59.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm working on it still. I come from a place

0:29:59.120 --> 0:30:02.280
<v Speaker 2>of black I grew up not financially secure, and so

0:30:03.160 --> 0:30:05.760
<v Speaker 2>as an adult, I'm constantly thinking like, well, let me

0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:07.480
<v Speaker 2>just do that job so that I can make that

0:30:07.560 --> 0:30:11.320
<v Speaker 2>money for my family. And yeah, there was a voiceover

0:30:11.400 --> 0:30:16.080
<v Speaker 2>that I said yes to. And I was also shooting

0:30:16.120 --> 0:30:20.240
<v Speaker 2>a commercial and the commercial shoot was happening over the week,

0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:25.560
<v Speaker 2>and the idea of doing this voiceover just was sitting

0:30:25.600 --> 0:30:29.400
<v Speaker 2>like heavy on me, and I felt like I can't cancel.

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:32.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna let everybody down. They're not gonna ask me

0:30:32.240 --> 0:30:34.920
<v Speaker 2>to do it again. I'm like, I'm gonna look like

0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:37.960
<v Speaker 2>a fucking fuck up. Like and I went to therapy

0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:40.280
<v Speaker 2>and I talked about it with my therapists and she

0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:42.840
<v Speaker 2>was like she didn't say do this or do that,

0:30:42.920 --> 0:30:45.720
<v Speaker 2>but she was like, I encourage you to like do.

0:30:45.760 --> 0:30:46.719
<v Speaker 1>What you really feel.

0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:49.400
<v Speaker 2>And after I got out of therapy, I called my

0:30:49.440 --> 0:30:52.360
<v Speaker 2>manager and I was like almost crying, but I kept.

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:55.880
<v Speaker 1>It for fresh and I was like, hey, Bob.

0:30:55.840 --> 0:30:59.720
<v Speaker 2>I cannot do this today and I don't know how

0:30:59.800 --> 0:31:02.400
<v Speaker 2>to get out of it, but like I feel really bad.

0:31:02.640 --> 0:31:06.080
<v Speaker 2>I understand if they have to recast me, I just cannot.

0:31:06.120 --> 0:31:08.040
<v Speaker 2>I do not have the bandwidth to do this today.

0:31:08.040 --> 0:31:10.920
<v Speaker 2>I need this night for myself. Like I can't good

0:31:10.960 --> 0:31:14.320
<v Speaker 2>for you, and that's really hard. You. It was hard,

0:31:15.000 --> 0:31:17.080
<v Speaker 2>and I think I was looking for somebody to give

0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:20.920
<v Speaker 2>permission to me, because immediately he was like, you work

0:31:21.000 --> 0:31:21.480
<v Speaker 2>so hard.

0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:22.800
<v Speaker 1>You never do this kind of thing.

0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:25.200
<v Speaker 2>Like you when you cancel, it's because you have a

0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:28.040
<v Speaker 2>good reason and that's okay, and you're tired and you

0:31:28.080 --> 0:31:30.480
<v Speaker 2>need your energy and like, let me take.

0:31:30.360 --> 0:31:32.280
<v Speaker 1>Care of it for you. And in the end it

0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:33.120
<v Speaker 1>was totally fine.

0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:36.240
<v Speaker 2>I was having anxiety about canceling for no reason because

0:31:37.000 --> 0:31:39.000
<v Speaker 2>they rescheduled it and everybody.

0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:41.560
<v Speaker 1>Was cool with it and it was a really fun job.

0:31:41.600 --> 0:31:44.520
<v Speaker 2>When I ended up doing it, it's like, yeah, fine,

0:31:45.040 --> 0:31:48.920
<v Speaker 2>oh it's fine, but like sometimes you just need to

0:31:49.800 --> 0:31:51.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to be a flake and I would

0:31:51.920 --> 0:31:53.760
<v Speaker 2>not call myself one, but I.

0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:55.480
<v Speaker 1>Think you're not. But you know that you're not, and

0:31:55.520 --> 0:31:57.520
<v Speaker 1>you're not like he said, you never do this, so

0:31:57.600 --> 0:32:01.440
<v Speaker 1>if you are doing it, it's like taken with good reason,

0:32:01.600 --> 0:32:04.880
<v Speaker 1>like oh shit, she must really like and also everyone

0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:07.560
<v Speaker 1>wants you to show up at your best, so you

0:32:07.760 --> 0:32:11.600
<v Speaker 1>exactly the best performance you can so in the spirit

0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:14.680
<v Speaker 1>of let's get the best version of the thing, you

0:32:14.720 --> 0:32:18.120
<v Speaker 1>were protecting that and so I but it is really hard,

0:32:18.200 --> 0:32:20.760
<v Speaker 1>and like I commend you for doing that. When it's

0:32:20.760 --> 0:32:22.520
<v Speaker 1>a job, especially, it feels like.

0:32:22.560 --> 0:32:27.400
<v Speaker 2>Especially oh my god, because yeah, kill to have this job.

0:32:27.440 --> 0:32:29.320
<v Speaker 1>And here I am being like I can't do it.

0:32:29.400 --> 0:32:32.720
<v Speaker 1>But that's a yeah lad mentality, right, like right, or

0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:35.800
<v Speaker 1>that's like a shit on yourself mentality.

0:32:36.120 --> 0:32:41.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I do think sometimes like last minute canceling.

0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:45.040
<v Speaker 2>I've done it before, and sometimes it does feel really

0:32:45.040 --> 0:32:48.120
<v Speaker 2>good because it's like a social event and yeah, I

0:32:48.240 --> 0:32:51.560
<v Speaker 2>maybe kind of didn't want to go anyway, and I

0:32:51.600 --> 0:32:53.920
<v Speaker 2>said yes, but I don't really want to get dressed,

0:32:53.960 --> 0:32:56.479
<v Speaker 2>and I like, and then it just feels like so

0:32:56.640 --> 0:32:57.280
<v Speaker 2>much work.

0:32:57.960 --> 0:32:59.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry I can't make it.

0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:02.400
<v Speaker 2>And then you're like snuggled up with your blanket watching

0:33:02.480 --> 0:33:08.840
<v Speaker 2>yes delicious delicious, like so pleased with your fabulous, fabulous

0:33:08.880 --> 0:33:10.200
<v Speaker 2>with your little mugga tea.

0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:13.880
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, and I don't.

0:33:13.960 --> 0:33:16.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't use my kid as an excuse very much.

0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:18.200
<v Speaker 2>I did in the beginning because it was a real

0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:20.960
<v Speaker 2>excuse because it was like, I can't bro like my

0:33:21.040 --> 0:33:21.760
<v Speaker 2>brain is from.

0:33:21.640 --> 0:33:24.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, when they're like under the age of three,

0:33:24.960 --> 0:33:29.000
<v Speaker 1>it's like not really a white lie, like you just when.

0:33:28.880 --> 0:33:33.640
<v Speaker 2>Your first kid wasn't sleeping, when Enzel wasn't sleeping, yeah yeah.

0:33:34.200 --> 0:33:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Two years. Yeah, and I just oh my god, I

0:33:39.440 --> 0:33:41.520
<v Speaker 1>would cancel plans all the time because I would just

0:33:41.520 --> 0:33:45.520
<v Speaker 1>be like, I'm so sorry, I'm tired, have the bandwidth.

0:33:45.560 --> 0:33:49.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm like so freaking tired. I have not slept this

0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:52.160
<v Speaker 1>whole week, like the baby, the baby. And then you

0:33:52.200 --> 0:33:54.800
<v Speaker 1>know it sucks though, because you do like eventually stop

0:33:54.840 --> 0:33:59.000
<v Speaker 1>getting invited to things. Yeah, that definitely happened to me

0:33:59.240 --> 0:34:01.840
<v Speaker 1>in the early years of Enzo. Like I stopped getting

0:34:01.880 --> 0:34:04.760
<v Speaker 1>invited to certain social things, stop getting invited to certain

0:34:04.920 --> 0:34:10.640
<v Speaker 1>work events because I said no for like a year plus,

0:34:10.960 --> 0:34:14.440
<v Speaker 1>and then I will stop asking. Yeah, people will stop asking.

0:34:14.520 --> 0:34:16.560
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, oh shit, like I gotta get

0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:18.120
<v Speaker 1>I gotta get better at this. I gotta get back

0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:22.400
<v Speaker 1>on this train. There's this really funny article that I

0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:23.760
<v Speaker 1>just put in our nerd Time.

0:34:24.320 --> 0:34:35.280
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, nerd Time, The Nerd Time, Nerd Time, Nerd Time.

0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:36.640
<v Speaker 3>That is.

0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:42.680
<v Speaker 1>About people who cancel plans last minute, like all the time,

0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:49.319
<v Speaker 1>tend to have darker personality traits, including machia aviliate Wait, oh,

0:34:49.320 --> 0:34:58.440
<v Speaker 1>this is hard to Machiaveliateavilianism, machiavellan Machiavelian machiavellianism when you

0:34:58.560 --> 0:35:02.640
<v Speaker 1>get it right though, which is being manipulative or having

0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:09.000
<v Speaker 1>a lack of morals and narcissism. Yeah. Yeah, Like they're like,

0:35:09.120 --> 0:35:10.959
<v Speaker 1>tend to have some dark traits and then they list

0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:13.520
<v Speaker 1>like the two darkest fucking personality traits.

0:35:15.640 --> 0:35:18.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean think about it though, Like if you're constantly

0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:22.240
<v Speaker 2>canceling plans, like you're not thinking about anybody else but you.

0:35:21.520 --> 0:35:24.000
<v Speaker 1>You are very self absorbed. Yeah. I did. Like at

0:35:24.040 --> 0:35:26.920
<v Speaker 1>first when I read the beginning of the article, I

0:35:27.000 --> 0:35:29.440
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh man, But then as I read I

0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:31.440
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, no, I'm not this person, but I

0:35:31.480 --> 0:35:34.120
<v Speaker 1>know people like this, and yeah, I'm pretty sure that they.

0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:37.680
<v Speaker 1>I have questioned whether they're narcissists, given that at one

0:35:37.719 --> 0:35:40.520
<v Speaker 1>point in time, we've all likely been the person to

0:35:40.560 --> 0:35:43.120
<v Speaker 1>send a last minute sorry but something's come up text,

0:35:44.000 --> 0:35:47.440
<v Speaker 1>Does that mean where all rotten to the core? Humans

0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:52.040
<v Speaker 1>who need deleting or rebooting? Thankfully not, The research explains,

0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:54.840
<v Speaker 1>as of course, sometimes life will get in the way,

0:35:54.960 --> 0:35:56.759
<v Speaker 1>will need to take the odd rain check. It's when

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<v Speaker 1>canceling plans becomes a regular habit that it is Veer's

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<v Speaker 1>into worrying territory. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're finding yourself doing it more often than not.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you got to ask you.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, honestly, that was one of the signs to

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<v Speaker 2>me that I was really depressed because I was invited

0:36:14.800 --> 0:36:19.280
<v Speaker 2>to a friend's engagement party and I was so excited

0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:22.279
<v Speaker 2>for her, really excited to go. And the day of

0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:24.560
<v Speaker 2>the engagement party came and I could not find anything

0:36:24.560 --> 0:36:27.400
<v Speaker 2>to wear. I was in my closet having an anxiety

0:36:27.440 --> 0:36:31.360
<v Speaker 2>attack about like a real anxiety attack about not a

0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:34.560
<v Speaker 2>panic attack, but like an anxiety attack about yeah, can

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<v Speaker 2>I wear to this person's party?

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like crying.

0:36:38.160 --> 0:36:39.719
<v Speaker 2>I was sitting I remember, I was sitting in the

0:36:39.760 --> 0:36:41.600
<v Speaker 2>chair in our bedroom and I was like crying, and

0:36:41.640 --> 0:36:43.640
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I feel so bad that we're not

0:36:43.680 --> 0:36:47.360
<v Speaker 2>going to go, like she'd like asked for our RSVP

0:36:47.680 --> 0:36:49.840
<v Speaker 2>and like it's not like this is a big deal.

0:36:50.000 --> 0:36:52.319
<v Speaker 2>And I was like crying, crying, crying, and Brad was like,

0:36:52.960 --> 0:36:55.440
<v Speaker 2>it's not that big of a deal, and I was like, Oh,

0:36:55.600 --> 0:36:57.480
<v Speaker 2>something's wrong, something's off.

0:36:57.280 --> 0:36:59.799
<v Speaker 1>With me, right, Like yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like if you're constantly canceling plans and you're

0:37:03.120 --> 0:37:07.080
<v Speaker 2>having these like anxiety reactions to having plans, there might

0:37:07.160 --> 0:37:10.040
<v Speaker 2>be something deeper, and that might be like assigned to

0:37:10.080 --> 0:37:12.399
<v Speaker 2>you to like reach out and get a little help

0:37:12.480 --> 0:37:14.480
<v Speaker 2>or ask some friends or you.

0:37:14.440 --> 0:37:17.879
<v Speaker 1>Know, talk about it a little bit, like how can you.

0:37:19.680 --> 0:37:22.280
<v Speaker 2>Help yourself through it, whether that's like talking to a therapist,

0:37:22.320 --> 0:37:25.080
<v Speaker 2>whether that's talking to friends, whether that's like I don't

0:37:25.120 --> 0:37:27.400
<v Speaker 2>feel comfortable right now going out to dinner, but like

0:37:27.480 --> 0:37:29.680
<v Speaker 2>maybe maybe you could come over a while I cook dinner.

0:37:29.719 --> 0:37:32.080
<v Speaker 2>Maybe we could sit and watch Netflix together. Yeah, we

0:37:32.080 --> 0:37:34.120
<v Speaker 2>could just like hang out in my backyard for like

0:37:34.160 --> 0:37:36.360
<v Speaker 2>an hour, you know, where it's not a lot of

0:37:36.360 --> 0:37:41.160
<v Speaker 2>pressure to help that feeling dissipate and go away, because

0:37:42.040 --> 0:37:44.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, if you're constantly canceling plans, I think something

0:37:44.360 --> 0:37:45.080
<v Speaker 2>else is going on.

0:37:46.320 --> 0:37:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, agree, totally. Yeah, it's a good it's a good

0:37:51.680 --> 0:37:52.719
<v Speaker 1>check in wake up call.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I really like the some cultural differences in planning.

0:37:58.560 --> 0:37:59.000
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:03.480
<v Speaker 2>Monoiac cultures monochronic cultures like the US, Germany and the

0:38:03.560 --> 0:38:09.680
<v Speaker 2>UK value punctuality and strict scheduling. Polychronic cultures like Latin America,

0:38:09.800 --> 0:38:13.880
<v Speaker 2>the Middle East, and Southern Europe a few times more fluidly.

0:38:14.200 --> 0:38:17.400
<v Speaker 1>Plans are flexible relationships schedules.

0:38:17.480 --> 0:38:23.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you when my white husband, who is I

0:38:23.280 --> 0:38:30.360
<v Speaker 2>think his he's American, and I believe his background, like

0:38:30.400 --> 0:38:34.120
<v Speaker 2>his DNA background or whatever, is like Europe and Germanic

0:38:34.200 --> 0:38:34.640
<v Speaker 2>and stuff.

0:38:34.719 --> 0:38:40.920
<v Speaker 1>But this motherfucker. First, the first couple of Christmases, the.

0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:42.680
<v Speaker 2>First couple of Christmases, he was like, what time do

0:38:42.719 --> 0:38:44.120
<v Speaker 2>we need to show up? And I was like, well,

0:38:44.120 --> 0:38:47.080
<v Speaker 2>it's probably gonna start around like seven. Our asses would

0:38:47.080 --> 0:38:49.600
<v Speaker 2>be there at seven. My Theatuka would open the door

0:38:50.320 --> 0:38:53.719
<v Speaker 2>and she'd be like, oh, like shocked that we were there.

0:38:53.800 --> 0:38:54.560
<v Speaker 1>Everyone else is.

0:38:54.480 --> 0:38:57.920
<v Speaker 2>Showing up at eight thirty, right, everyone's like kind of

0:38:58.680 --> 0:39:01.759
<v Speaker 2>I mean, and he and time, man, he started my

0:39:01.880 --> 0:39:04.160
<v Speaker 2>Latin time is different man, and I had to explain

0:39:04.200 --> 0:39:05.920
<v Speaker 2>to him, like we cannot be on time.

0:39:05.960 --> 0:39:09.239
<v Speaker 1>We can be like maybe we can be.

0:39:10.719 --> 0:39:13.799
<v Speaker 2>Half an hour later than the time that we're starting that, like,

0:39:13.880 --> 0:39:15.840
<v Speaker 2>we can't be on time because we will be the

0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:19.920
<v Speaker 2>first people there and it will be really annoying for

0:39:19.960 --> 0:39:23.000
<v Speaker 2>the host to have to host us. Like, yes, it's different,

0:39:23.360 --> 0:39:23.960
<v Speaker 2>it's just different.

0:39:23.960 --> 0:39:27.840
<v Speaker 1>When we got married, there was a whole conversation round

0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:32.319
<v Speaker 1>table with my parents with David about what time to

0:39:32.360 --> 0:39:36.760
<v Speaker 1>put on the invitation. What time yes, because there definitely

0:39:36.840 --> 0:39:42.600
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna be half more than half Latino's coming, so

0:39:43.239 --> 0:39:45.320
<v Speaker 1>we knew we had to put like at least a

0:39:45.360 --> 0:39:48.879
<v Speaker 1>half hour before it actually started. Yes, But then we

0:39:48.880 --> 0:39:51.680
<v Speaker 1>were like, should we put more than a half hour,

0:39:51.840 --> 0:39:54.680
<v Speaker 1>But then all the white people or non Latin people

0:39:54.840 --> 0:39:57.359
<v Speaker 1>are gonna come on time, show up, yeah, and they're

0:39:57.400 --> 0:39:59.719
<v Speaker 1>gonna be like, why are we fucking standing here for

0:40:00.000 --> 0:40:02.920
<v Speaker 1>forty minutes before we even sit down for the ceremony,

0:40:02.960 --> 0:40:05.560
<v Speaker 1>and they're going to be confused. So we had a

0:40:05.600 --> 0:40:08.040
<v Speaker 1>hole back and forth. We went with like thirty minutes.

0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:11.000
<v Speaker 1>We put thirty minutes earlier on the invitation than the

0:40:11.040 --> 0:40:16.000
<v Speaker 1>actual start time. But it was a hole back and

0:40:16.040 --> 0:40:18.680
<v Speaker 1>forth debate because we were like, we don't want to

0:40:18.719 --> 0:40:22.200
<v Speaker 1>offend people, but also we don't want people walking in

0:40:22.200 --> 0:40:24.399
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the fucking ceremony.

0:40:26.280 --> 0:40:29.400
<v Speaker 2>Dude, I the only people that were walking in in

0:40:29.400 --> 0:40:31.839
<v Speaker 2>the middle of the ceremony or like right as I

0:40:31.880 --> 0:40:34.919
<v Speaker 2>was like walking down the aisle, like remember.

0:40:34.680 --> 0:40:36.600
<v Speaker 1>Like at my wedding, it was yeah, yeah, like a

0:40:36.640 --> 0:40:40.560
<v Speaker 1>weird like circular way in the round. Yeah. Yeah.

0:40:40.640 --> 0:40:42.040
<v Speaker 2>I looked out of the corner of my eye and

0:40:42.080 --> 0:40:44.919
<v Speaker 2>I saw my Latina friend and I was like, yeah,

0:40:45.040 --> 0:40:48.120
<v Speaker 2>she's walking in right now, like people have been here

0:40:48.160 --> 0:40:49.720
<v Speaker 2>for forty minutes drinking.

0:40:50.680 --> 0:40:53.720
<v Speaker 1>She's walking to her asses walking in right now. Yep.

0:40:55.120 --> 0:40:58.239
<v Speaker 1>It's just different. I mean it's different. It just it

0:40:58.360 --> 0:41:02.080
<v Speaker 1>just is it just it just is. Yeah. I'm I'm

0:41:02.080 --> 0:41:04.760
<v Speaker 1>an on time Latino. I think only because my dad

0:41:05.000 --> 0:41:07.120
<v Speaker 1>was like, and he would talk about it a lot,

0:41:07.160 --> 0:41:08.320
<v Speaker 1>like we're not We're not going to beat one of

0:41:08.360 --> 0:41:09.919
<v Speaker 1>those Latinos. We're gonna show up on time.

0:41:11.600 --> 0:41:15.960
<v Speaker 2>I am an on time Latino because I had friends,

0:41:15.960 --> 0:41:18.319
<v Speaker 2>and I've told you this before, I've had I had

0:41:18.360 --> 0:41:21.319
<v Speaker 2>friends sit me down once at dinner and they were like,

0:41:21.440 --> 0:41:23.360
<v Speaker 2>you cannot be fucking late anymore.

0:41:23.840 --> 0:41:24.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh, my clate.

0:41:26.080 --> 0:41:27.560
<v Speaker 2>It was in New York and I was an hour

0:41:27.640 --> 0:41:29.360
<v Speaker 2>late for dinner and they were like, you can't be

0:41:29.440 --> 0:41:29.880
<v Speaker 2>late anymore.

0:41:29.920 --> 0:41:32.040
<v Speaker 1>We're not gonna invite you anywhere anymore. I was like,

0:41:32.120 --> 0:41:36.320
<v Speaker 1>oh shit, oh my god. Okay. I was like, oh okay,

0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:39.440
<v Speaker 1>oh like but you know what I like it. I

0:41:39.560 --> 0:41:42.400
<v Speaker 1>like our an hour late for my first date with

0:41:42.480 --> 0:41:47.280
<v Speaker 1>Brad and I lived Melissa.

0:41:47.360 --> 0:41:53.600
<v Speaker 2>I lived two blocks from the restaurant.

0:41:55.000 --> 0:41:57.879
<v Speaker 1>I lived in silver Lake, and I was my god.

0:41:58.160 --> 0:42:01.040
<v Speaker 2>I was meeting him at ellen and I picked Ellenie

0:42:01.040 --> 0:42:01.920
<v Speaker 2>because I could walk.

0:42:02.120 --> 0:42:04.880
<v Speaker 1>No, it was a block. It was a block, an

0:42:04.920 --> 0:42:10.120
<v Speaker 1>hour late. I look fabulous, though, listen.

0:42:13.280 --> 0:42:17.360
<v Speaker 2>More better. Okay, So what did we what did we

0:42:17.480 --> 0:42:20.880
<v Speaker 2>learn today? What were your big takeaways about making plans.

0:42:22.320 --> 0:42:25.160
<v Speaker 1>I really like the I'm going to put a different

0:42:25.200 --> 0:42:27.840
<v Speaker 1>color on I'm going to put a different color in

0:42:27.880 --> 0:42:35.200
<v Speaker 1>my calendar for fun stuff. I love that idea and yeah,

0:42:35.280 --> 0:42:37.880
<v Speaker 1>and that it is it is even though it's like

0:42:38.040 --> 0:42:42.520
<v Speaker 1>you don't feel like doing it. I think it's important

0:42:42.560 --> 0:42:45.839
<v Speaker 1>to do and that you're always like happy once you

0:42:45.920 --> 0:42:49.000
<v Speaker 1>like get to the plan most of the time. But

0:42:49.080 --> 0:42:51.719
<v Speaker 1>also like to be better about not over planning myself too,

0:42:51.760 --> 0:42:55.840
<v Speaker 1>because I have been victim to that as well. So yeah,

0:42:56.000 --> 0:42:58.520
<v Speaker 1>this was good, like food for thought. I feel like, yeah,

0:42:58.640 --> 0:43:02.440
<v Speaker 1>like it's it's a out yeah, striking being maybe more

0:43:02.480 --> 0:43:06.880
<v Speaker 1>intentional about the balance of like making plans and also

0:43:06.960 --> 0:43:08.600
<v Speaker 1>like letting spontaneous thing happens.

0:43:09.280 --> 0:43:11.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I learned. I learned a weird one. Or

0:43:11.840 --> 0:43:14.879
<v Speaker 2>my big takeaway is like it's not that they don't

0:43:14.880 --> 0:43:15.799
<v Speaker 2>want to hang out with me.

0:43:15.960 --> 0:43:19.240
<v Speaker 1>Or that they find me weird. It's that they're probably

0:43:19.280 --> 0:43:19.760
<v Speaker 1>just kind.

0:43:19.600 --> 0:43:22.200
<v Speaker 2>Of flaky or busy. It has nothing to do with me,

0:43:22.520 --> 0:43:24.120
<v Speaker 2>and I just need to like let go of that.

0:43:24.920 --> 0:43:27.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah that's leftover from childhood stuff. It's like if they

0:43:27.520 --> 0:43:29.439
<v Speaker 2>don't want to hang out with me, which is like yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:43:29.480 --> 0:43:31.000
<v Speaker 2>maybe maybe, but maybe not.

0:43:31.520 --> 0:43:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, especially like you can tell in the moment,

0:43:34.880 --> 0:43:37.239
<v Speaker 1>especially in LA when people are just saying it as

0:43:37.280 --> 0:43:40.640
<v Speaker 1>a line and when people like really mean it, you know,

0:43:40.840 --> 0:43:42.200
<v Speaker 1>and then it's like you got to just like be

0:43:42.280 --> 0:43:43.880
<v Speaker 1>like it's it not that counts, Like I know that

0:43:43.880 --> 0:43:46.680
<v Speaker 1>they meant it, like you know, yeah, fucking busy or

0:43:46.719 --> 0:43:48.080
<v Speaker 1>flaky or whatever.

0:43:47.960 --> 0:43:48.160
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:43:48.680 --> 0:43:51.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah that's cool. Okay, do you

0:43:51.560 --> 0:43:54.439
<v Speaker 1>feel a little more better about making plans? I do.

0:43:54.760 --> 0:43:58.839
<v Speaker 2>I do feel about I do too, because I have

0:43:58.880 --> 0:44:01.200
<v Speaker 2>a lunch and forty minutes with a friend and I

0:44:01.320 --> 0:44:02.719
<v Speaker 2>forced into making plans.

0:44:03.360 --> 0:44:11.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeay, yay yay. I love that. Okay, great great y

0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:14.359
<v Speaker 1>see you guys next time. See you guys next time.

0:44:14.480 --> 0:44:18.360
<v Speaker 1>Let's plan on it. Bye, thought it. Let's see you

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