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Speaker 1: Happy Saturday everyone. In our recent episodes about so journal Truth,

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Speaker 1: we talked about her efforts to recruit black soldiers to

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Speaker 1: fight for the Union during the U. S. Civil War.

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Speaker 1: Those recruits generally became part of the fifty four Massachusetts

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Speaker 1: Volunteer Infantry Regiment, and they included so Journal Truth's grandson

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Speaker 1: as well as two of Frederick Douglas's sons. This is

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Speaker 1: a subject our show has covered before. Our podcast on

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Speaker 1: the Massachusetts fifty four is from bac in thanks to

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Speaker 1: previous hosts Sarah and Deblina. Welcome to Stuff You Missed

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Speaker 1: in History Class from how Stuff Works dot com. Hello,

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Speaker 1: and welcome to the podcast. I'm Sarah Dowdy and I'm

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Speaker 1: Deblina Chuck reporting, and probably for the first time since

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Speaker 1: our three hundred episode, we're going to be talking about

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Speaker 1: a subject that most of you might know better from

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Speaker 1: the movie version. It's the Massachusetts Colored Infantry, and if

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Speaker 1: you've seen the nineteen eight nine film Glory, you know

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Speaker 1: that the story covers an all African American regiment in

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Speaker 1: the Civil War and their white colonel Robert gould Shaw,

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Speaker 1: who's played by a barely out of Ferris Bueller Matthew

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Speaker 1: Broderick and despite required Hollywood tweaks and changed timelines, I mean,

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Speaker 1: they've got a self tickets. After all. Glory is considered

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Speaker 1: one of the best Civil War films, probably because it

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Speaker 1: had Shelby Foote the author as its historical advisor, and

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Speaker 1: a really well respected cast Roderick Morgan Freeman. A young

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Speaker 1: Denzel Washington actually checked out the review of Glory in

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Speaker 1: the New York Times Articles Archives, and they said he

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Speaker 1: was clearly on his way to a major screen career. Indeed. Um,

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Speaker 1: So we're of course going to be talking about some

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Speaker 1: of the high points featured in the film Glory, the

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Speaker 1: regiments parade through Boston, their pay refusal, their tragic battle

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Speaker 1: at Fort Wagner. But we're also going to be talking

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Speaker 1: about why the fifty four was so remarkable in the

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Speaker 1: first place, and why it took until eighteen sixty three

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Speaker 1: for a northern state to raise an all black regiment.

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Speaker 1: That last fact is especially surprising when you consider African

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Speaker 1: Americans fought in the Revolutionary War, So why in the

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Speaker 1: Civil War when their liberty was again at stake, where

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Speaker 1: blacks not initially allowed to fight. Well, when the war began,

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Speaker 1: many free blacks wanted to join, but a seventeen ninety

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Speaker 1: as a whole weren't in favor of it. They believed

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Speaker 1: African Americans were unsuitable soldiers, cowardly or unintelligent, and they

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Speaker 1: thought that they weren't equipped to do anything beyond the

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Speaker 1: hard labor work that was required for war, so grave digging,

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Speaker 1: hauleen cooking, things like that. And if you listen to

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Speaker 1: our episode on the Stone or Rebellion, and if you've

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Speaker 1: heard of other revolts like Nat Turners, it's also easy

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Speaker 1: to see that there was a fair amount of fear involved.

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Speaker 1: It seemed a risk almost to outfit an armed black soldiers.

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Speaker 1: But opinions did start to change over time, partly because

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Speaker 1: the war dragged on longer than people had expected it too,

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Speaker 1: and fewer white men were so gung ho to go

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Speaker 1: enlist anymore. Also, abolitionists started to make promoting black service

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Speaker 1: a prime wartime goal. Many saw it as the natural

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Speaker 1: road toward full freedom, that you had to participate in

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Speaker 1: earning that freedom by fighting, and one of the most

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Speaker 1: famous abolitionists of the day, the former slave Frederick Douglas

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Speaker 1: even said quote, once the black man gets upon his person,

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Speaker 1: earth which can deny that he has earned the right

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Speaker 1: not all saw enlisting African American troops as a way

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Speaker 1: considered enlisting black troops as a definitive way to beat

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Speaker 1: July eighteen sixty two, laws did start to change to

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Speaker 1: as soon as they crossed Union lines. And they passed

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Speaker 1: the Militia Act, which empowered the president to set up

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Speaker 1: eighteen sixty two there were a few regiments of black

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Speaker 1: President Lincoln had then quote to arm the Negroes would

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Speaker 1: US that were for US. But the abolitionists really continued

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Speaker 1: Massachusetts Governor John Andrew, who was an abolitionist himself, believed

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Speaker 1: That's why he petitioned Secretary of War and when Stanton

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Speaker 1: at that point. His first order of business was, of course,

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Speaker 1: were pretty high profile guys too too. Of Frederick Douglas's sons,

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Speaker 1: put them with a poorly trained officer. Well. Governor Andrew's

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Speaker 1: pick ended up being Captain Robert Gouldshaw, the twenty five

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Speaker 1: But when Shaw was offered the command delivered personally from

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Speaker 1: book on Shaw. In one eighteen fifty eight letter, Shaw

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Speaker 1: far as I myself am concerned. For while I was undecided,

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Speaker 1: So whatever his reasons, Shaw did ultimately accept the commission,

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Speaker 1: But one important thing to remember here all of the

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Speaker 1: many of them started working with pretty stereotypical views of

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Speaker 1: under intense scrutiny from white soldiers. For instance, when the

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Speaker 1: the Massachusetts historicals that society does have portraits, you know,

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Speaker 1: portraits of the little drummer boys and stuff, who look

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