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Speaker 1: Yea, gooda Combine Week. Baby. Welcome to Good Morning Football.

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Speaker 1: We are presented by Ram I'm back in the New

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Speaker 1: York City groove. Michael Robinson. Michael at sixty five wants

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Speaker 1: to debate James Winson versus Jimmy Grupfold. The show hasn't

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Speaker 1: even started. Yeah, let's go. We ready to go. Three

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Speaker 1: hours is not enough? That was sinking. No it's not.

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Speaker 1: There are no ski slopes for you within five minutes

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Speaker 1: of the studium. We appreciate James Palmer. I'm a little

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Speaker 1: on edge as well. I'm Kay Adams excited to be back.

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Speaker 1: Why am I back? Why do I decide to leave

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Speaker 1: my brilliant vacation to come here because it's Combined Week?

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Speaker 1: And the only person who loves it more than I

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Speaker 1: do is that sick pup Peter Schrager, who is there

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Speaker 1: before anyone else. There is no one. They're like the

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Speaker 1: lights aren't even on in Indianapolis at the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: two and Phil Scout and Combine Strike set the scene. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I said yesterday on the show, I said, Kay says

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Speaker 1: the NFL Honors is her favorite night. I say, Combine

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Speaker 1: is my favorite week. What I didn't realize would be

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Speaker 1: that there'd be zero people behind me when I arrived.

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Speaker 1: And that's okay because we're setting the table right now.

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Speaker 1: Today is the first real day of the combine. Last

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Speaker 1: night everybody kind of got in, the coaches, the GMS,

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Speaker 1: a lot of the players were arriving also, and today

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Speaker 1: behind me on these podiums, there's eight of them in

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Speaker 1: this convention center right now. A lot of the coaches

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Speaker 1: and general managers around the league are going to speak

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Speaker 1: with the local media, but also the national media. Some

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Speaker 1: names to look for. The Broncos guys, both George Peyton

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Speaker 1: the GM and Nathaniel Hackett will be speaking here. At

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals guys, both Steve Kime and Cliff Kingsbury will

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Speaker 1: several others. Today is more of it. Everybody gets settled.

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Speaker 1: Last night might have been a ranger for some of

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Speaker 1: those coaches. I was in bed by eight pm because

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Speaker 1: I have a show every morning. Let's go frames. Do

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Speaker 1: you please go out? You didn't go out after your

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Speaker 1: rams when the Super Bowl? You please enjoy yourself out

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Speaker 1: there and promise I will I will head it up.

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Speaker 1: Yah Sunday night. I'll be out big. Let's go all right,

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Speaker 1: Peter Shrew, You've got some great interviews planned as well. Here,

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Speaker 1: Bred Holmes, Jason Light joining Shrekes. They're onset when they

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Speaker 1: wake up and decide to join the party. For now,

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Speaker 1: it's alive, luck oh, Jimmy Palm Trees Baritone too good.

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Speaker 1: Combine week in full swing and as Shrikes said, we'd

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Speaker 1: be covered at every angle, every second, every best expert

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Speaker 1: breaking it down. The twenty twenty two NFL Scouting Combine

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Speaker 1: is presented by Verizon around the clock coverage right here

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Speaker 1: on NFL Network, kicking off Thursday, March third, or setting

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Speaker 1: the table for you as teams to start to trickle in.

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Speaker 1: But a lot of the business gets done during these

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Speaker 1: couple of days, so that's what we'll be keeping our

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Speaker 1: eye on. It all kicks off at four pm Thursday,

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Speaker 1: Friday and Saturday two pm on Sunday. A lot of

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Speaker 1: action during the next several days in Indie, not only

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Speaker 1: checks that Joe Burrow tweeted about last year was my

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Speaker 1: absolute favorite. But there's real players here working behind the

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Speaker 1: whether it's a player, a coach, a general manager, whatever,

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Speaker 1: what are you guys most fascinated with when it comes

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Speaker 1: to this combine? Oh well, I'm gonna go up there

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Speaker 1: to the northeast, Pittsburgh Steelers right to me. You know,

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Speaker 1: Big Ben obviously retiring, They're looking for a franchise quarterback,

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Speaker 1: But there's a kid in this draft that I think

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Speaker 1: I think this kid is dynamic. I love this kid

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Speaker 1: in Chris Ballard's pocket, the general manager of the Indianapolis Colts,

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Speaker 1: and I want to know every conversation that he has

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Speaker 1: with head coach Frank Right about their quarterback in Carson Wentz.

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Speaker 1: What is the future for Carson Wentz with the Colts.

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Speaker 1: I was told late last week that a decision had

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Speaker 1: of town. And I get it. Those last two weeks

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Speaker 1: didn't make offs. But you have to evaluate where you

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Speaker 1: You move on? I don't know who your quarterback is.

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Speaker 1: A lot of that's scripted by Frank Wright saying make

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Speaker 1: you play within my offense. Chris Ballard made a lot

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Speaker 1: to be the difference exact. I don't think Carson Wentz

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Speaker 1: Wentz in some areas last year. But that's the debate

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Speaker 1: Rick morranas honey, I shrunk the kids yourself and put

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Speaker 1: to normal size in the big cheerio. It looks so fun.

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Speaker 1: Psyches a creepy can I can I see that binder?

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Speaker 1: That binder is so aggressive the NFL media and thank

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Speaker 1: God for our reason. I love to have to have it.

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Speaker 1: Can you lift it? So everyone? It is you don't want?

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Speaker 1: current players in the league. Like you guys were talking about,

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Gary walk in here from vacation. Hello. There are

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Speaker 1: And James, I want you to people we were talking

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Speaker 1: trade value made the skyrocket just by them just holding

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Speaker 1: and all of these other dominoes the teams are looking

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Speaker 1: to see if they can land a quarterback don't happen now.

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo is essentially the best option for a variety

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Speaker 1: of teams. And we'll get at this in depth later. Peter,

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Speaker 1: You look at the Bucks, the Saints, the Steelers. Who

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Speaker 1: there are teams that would be interested in Jimmy Garoppolo. Peter, Okay, Peter, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: forty nine Ers conversation and James make a great point.

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Speaker 1: They can't keep Jimmy Garoppolo financially, he's gonna be making

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Speaker 1: twenty five million dollars. They have to get extensions for

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Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel, they have to get extensions for Nick Bosa.

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Speaker 1: There are bigger names that they need to get taken

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Speaker 1: Joe was the name in February with Joe Burrow. I

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Speaker 1: this list. Peter, you guys do this thing where it's

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Speaker 1: so great, Peter. I love this kind of draft where

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Speaker 1: it's like the big boys, and I'm not like to

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Speaker 1: have peterba I love you, I love all right. We

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Speaker 1: call it seven defensive players, Okay, two offensive line, one

430
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:23,399
Speaker 1: offensive skill position. No quarterbacks on this list. It's just

431
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Speaker 1: not the kind of top ten list I'm accustomed to.

432
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Speaker 1: Help offensive ye who are great great. So now teams

433
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Speaker 1: are going after the defenders to affect the quarterback. I

434
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Speaker 1: think positionless football is coming more to fruition. Well, God

435
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Speaker 1: just could play any position straighter. Here's my question, Straighter,

436
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 1: here's my question. Even though there aren't any quarterbacks on

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Speaker 1: this top ten list, if there's one thing that you,

438
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Speaker 1: my friend, have taught me is that things have change

439
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,919
Speaker 1: when these measurables come and these pro days come, and

440
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 1: these things happen and talk happens. Patrick Mahomes wasn't on

441
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Speaker 1: anybody's radar as a top ten pick until well into

442
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Speaker 1: the process. Is that possible here or is this what

443
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Speaker 1: it's going to shake out to be in April? Yeah?

444
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 1: And Kay, that's a great point. I think what happens

445
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 1: is free agency. That wave happens, and then there's gonna

446
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 1: be some teams on the carousel that still don't have

447
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Speaker 1: a quarterback. And it might be Carolina, it might be Denver,

448
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 1: and you're starting to say, well, look, Kenny Pickett might

449
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,199
Speaker 1: not be the eighth best player in this draft, but

450
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Speaker 1: we need a quarterback and all of our jobs are

451
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Speaker 1: on the line at some point if we don't have

452
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Speaker 1: a quarterback, and that's when that pressure comes. But they

453
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Speaker 1: could go in, Wow, this thing and Katie, your point

454
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Speaker 1: about the wide receivers in the corners, it's actually a

455
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,399
Speaker 1: great thing because there are twenty five wide receivers in

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Speaker 1: this draft that I've been told that can go in

457
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Speaker 1: the first four rounds. The issue is so many of

458
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Speaker 1: these guys bring different things to the table, and there's

459
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Speaker 1: such depth that maybe they don't go in the top

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Speaker 1: ten and you get them in the second round or

461
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Speaker 1: the third round and they still make an impact, like

462
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Speaker 1: we've seen Deebo Samuel in the second round or Cooper

463
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Speaker 1: Cup in the third round, because the depth at that

464
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Speaker 1: position is so good. One name at corner who is

465
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Speaker 1: an egregious omission by me, and I just I don't

466
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Speaker 1: have him. I don't spot. You can't have them all.

467
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Speaker 1: Sauce Gardner is his name. He is a tall range

468
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Speaker 1: corner at a Cincinnati. Everyone loves him and his nickname

469
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Speaker 1: is Sauce. So trust me, as someone who loves Sauce,

470
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Speaker 1: I am going to be in on Sauce Gardener as well.

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Speaker 1: He just did not make my top ten. He's on

472
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Speaker 1: a lot of them. Yeah, he could go as high

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Speaker 1: as number three or number four overall. But it's an awesome,

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Speaker 1: awesome draft class, very deep. You just don't have those

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Speaker 1: big quarterbacks and wide receivers up at the very top.

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Speaker 1: Right now, it's time for the lead block Kerment meets.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what was that. I'm not entirely

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Speaker 1: sure where are you pulling that from in your gut diaphragm?

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Speaker 1: All right, wouldn't be a combine week with allow the

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Speaker 1: little drums behind the scenes trads just said it. Yesterday

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Speaker 1: during the show, Kyler Murray's agent, Eric Workhart released a

482
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Speaker 1: lengthy statement outlining a few things here. Kyler absolutely wants

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Speaker 1: to be the Cardinals quarterback for the future. He desperately

484
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Speaker 1: wants to win a Super Bowl, and he wants a

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Speaker 1: long term contract extension. So Tom Polisara pointed this out yesterday.

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Speaker 1: The ball in the Cardinal's court, gentlemanager's deep cime schedule

487
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Speaker 1: to speak, by the way, to the media today in

488
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Speaker 1: Indianapolis at three pm Eastern, just a little while after

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Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury takes the podium at one forty five pm.

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Speaker 1: NFL Now is going to be all over that right

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Speaker 1: here on NFL Network, So hopefully we'll learn more before

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Speaker 1: the end of the day. I'm very excited to hear

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Speaker 1: from those two, very curious, But how do you guys

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Speaker 1: think the Cardinal should handle this Kyler Murray situation? Treys,

495
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Speaker 1: We'll actually throw it back out to you. Yeah, and kay,

496
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Speaker 1: I know you just got done being out for the

497
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: SAG Awards and do a lot of the celebrity stuff,

498
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 1: and there's always paparazzi, and there's and there's TMZ, and

499
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,880
Speaker 1: there's people and everyone want to do the gossip. There's

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Speaker 1: paparazzi here in Indianapolis as well. I want to throw

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Speaker 1: up a tweet that I woke up to this morning.

502
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Speaker 1: I did not think this was going to be revealed,

503
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Speaker 1: but let's show one of the tweets that was made

504
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Speaker 1: here if we can. Guys, I made it, dua, I

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Speaker 1: made it, and non please, I made it. Though here

506
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Speaker 1: I am. It was seen and this is it. I

507
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 1: out there, guys and the truth matter. They didn't go

508
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: into great depth, but I did see Cliff. We did

509
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Speaker 1: chat briefly. Yesterday was a whirlwind, and Cliff is almost

510
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Speaker 1: in the middle of this thing because you've got his

511
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Speaker 1: franchise quarterback who he came to the Pros to be with,

512
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Speaker 1: and Kyler Murray, and then you've got general manager Steve

513
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Speaker 1: Kim and Michael Bidwell, who he's on great terms with

514
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Speaker 1: as well. What this is is between Kyler's camp and

515
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Speaker 1: the Cardinals at this moment, and really, Kyler's camp wants

516
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Speaker 1: to be paid now. They want it on March first,

517
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Speaker 1: give me my money, let's go. And when Eric Burkhardt

518
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Speaker 1: put out that statement yesterday, that was an open salvo

519
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Speaker 1: to everyone listening saying, pay my guy. The problem is

520
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Speaker 1: the Cardinals are not going to necessarily do this on

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray's timeline because guess what, Patrick Mahomes didn't get

522
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Speaker 1: his deal until July of this same season. For Kyler,

523
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 1: Josh Allen didn't get his too. Even later wentz and

524
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Speaker 1: Golf to even later than that. Heck Lamar Jackson, who

525
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Speaker 1: was an MVP and was rafted a year before Kyler

526
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 1: Murray still hasn't gotten his deal. So for all the

527
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: public statements that Eric Burkhardt wants to make, for all

528
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 1: of the Instagram posts and different font sizes they want

529
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: to do, it's not exactly going to just make it happen.

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Speaker 1: The question is is Kyler willing to go the next step?

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Speaker 1: Is he willing to sit out camp? Is he willing

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Speaker 1: to take off the year until he gets paid? Is

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Speaker 1: he willing to demand a trade because it doesn't necessarily

534
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 1: happen on the players terms and I'll go one step further.

535
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Speaker 1: Michael Bidwell, this would be the biggest contract he's ever

536
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Speaker 1: given to Annie. I mean, this is Carson Palmer came

537
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: there on a contract that wasn't one of these mega deals.

538
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: It was after the Raiders experience and they said, let's

539
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 1: give Carson Palmer a run. Kurt Warner. He was in

540
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 1: no man's land in New York. They brought in Kurt Warner.

541
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Speaker 1: He was backing up Matt Liner, if you remember. So

542
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: this isn't something that the Cardinals are accustomed to doing,

543
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Speaker 1: especially ahead of schedule. I think it's gonna be a

544
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Speaker 1: fascinating press conference today at three pm with Steve Khime.

545
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 1: But Kingsbury's place in this is kind of one of

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Speaker 1: these deals where he's like, he wants to see his

547
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Speaker 1: guy get hey, he wants to work with Kyler, but

548
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: he also understands the team situation where it might not

549
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 1: happen on Kyler's schedule. Hopefully the cooler heads can prevail

550
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 1: and that there won't be animosity that comes out of

551
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,199
Speaker 1: this entire situation. Because don't make any mistake about it,

552
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: that post going out yesterday morning was orchestrated and was

553
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: real and was a message to the Cardinals from Kyler's camp.

554
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,199
Speaker 1: Whether the Cardinals respond and say, oh, yes, please, of

555
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 1: course we'll do it whatever you want, or they just

556
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: laughing or saying, hey, we'll take our time, is really

557
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 1: what the next step is gonna be here? Yeah, I

558
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: don't understand Kyler right now. I really don't. I don't.

559
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 1: And if I'm the Arizona Cardinals, I stall him out,

560
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 1: stall him out, debo, wait him out, wait and see

561
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: if he's really gonna sit out, because I don't believe

562
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 1: the kid is. I really don't. I think to Peter's point,

563
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 1: I think the tweet was orchestrated. I think it was

564
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: on purpose because they knew that the beginning of the combine,

565
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 1: you know, all of the brass with the Arizona Cardinals

566
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Speaker 1: are going to be asked all the questions about it.

567
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: But how I don't understand why Kyler Murray thinks that

568
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: the team doesn't want him or didn't all in on him.

569
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: They drafted me, James drafted him on one overall. Cliff

570
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,239
Speaker 1: Kingsbury was brought there to coach him. He wanted he

571
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 1: wanted to coach Kyler Murray individually and specifically. They brought

572
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 1: in a guy who had a losing record in college

573
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 1: as a head coach. They fired the previous head coach

574
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Speaker 1: who was only there for one year and also drafted

575
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Speaker 1: a quarterback that he and drafted the quarterback in his

576
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: only year there. So you can't say the team it'

577
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: all in on you. So why the rush, Kyler? Why

578
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,959
Speaker 1: the rush? Okay James, I think I know why they

579
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: want him and why he wants to rush this deal.

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00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: He wants to rush the deal because I think Kyler

581
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: knows he has some inequities in terms of leadership. I

582
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: think he knows that the longer he waits for this deal,

583
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,719
Speaker 1: the more that people are gonna the more that it's

584
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: gonna be revealed that maybe he isn't the leader that

585
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: we all thought that he was, or maybe he in

586
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: the face of the Arizona Carliners that we all thought

587
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: he was a Maybe maybe he hadn't loved football as

588
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: much as we all thought he was previously being the

589
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: number one overall pick. That's why he wants to get

590
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: his money. Um, before that, all that narrative starts to

591
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: come out to me, it's clearly simple. What Colin Murray

592
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: in his campus trying to do. They're trying to get

593
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: paid before the truth comes out of our colum and

594
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: I hope I'm wrong, But you think they shouldn't pay

595
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: him right now? I wouldn't pay him right now. What

596
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: has he shown you to the point of what though?

597
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: Stall him out until you feel like that you've seeing

598
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: enough of him that he can be your franchise quarterback,

599
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: because frankly, right now, I haven't seen enough of Kylin

600
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: Murray that I can deem him worth forty million per

601
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: season to be the face of my franchise. I've seen

602
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: McCoy win games. You can win with Calt McCoy in

603
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: this league. He's their backup. And saying stall him out, debo,

604
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: stall him out, you want to call bluffs and all

605
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,479
Speaker 1: you mean, you want to you know, put us on,

606
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: you know, on the hot seat and stuff like that. Kyl,

607
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stall, You'm gonna se if you really gonna

608
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: hold out, let's go. I'm curious, Sam Rob, what part

609
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: of baseball plays into this? Does Kyler think he has

610
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: more leverage than other players because he's a top ten

611
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: pick in the Major League Baseball Draft that he can

612
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: maybe tell the car I may jump ship I'm just

613
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: curious how that plays into it. That's one aspect of this.

614
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: We're talking about how the Cardinal should respond to this.

615
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: I want them to respond with a lengthy statement. I

616
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: want a Willy Wonka contract sized statement, like he duped

617
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: those children and knocking them off one by one through

618
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: his chocolate factory. I want fifteen paragraphs. I want them

619
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: could quadruple it. No, listen, I think it's interesting when

620
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: we have now had time because the statement came out

621
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: when we were on the air yesterday to look at it,

622
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: and some of the aspects jump out at me and

623
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Speaker 1: m Rob saying, is he worth forty million dollars a

624
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: year like these other quarterbacks? In the statement, it says

625
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: he would like to be paid according to equal comps.

626
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: I don't think his play on the field is a

627
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: forty million dollars quarterback. Is he Patrick Mahomes is not?

628
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: Is he Josh Allen? Is he Aaron Rodgers? He should

629
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: be self aware enough with a play like that that

630
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: he is not in that category. So I'm curious because

631
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: we don't know this. They said that they have made

632
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: an offer to the Cardinals. What is that number and

633
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: what is that offer? You mean him and his reps

634
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: came and said, this isn't what we'd like to get paid. Yeah,

635
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what the number is, but in the

636
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: statement it says that they have come with a proposal,

637
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Speaker 1: and then the other part of it that says he

638
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: has been obviously improving each and every year. I know

639
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: these are just stats, but they're essentially identical all three seasons.

640
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: Twenty touchdowns to twelve picks, twenty six touchdowns to twelve picks,

641
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: twenty four touchdowns to ten picks. Yeah, the yards are

642
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: almost identical. Yes, wins have gone up, and I know

643
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: that's kind of a knocket color, and I don't want

644
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: to say it in that sense because he is a

645
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: very good player. I've talked to people in that building

646
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: that say what he can do on a football field,

647
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: his accuracy is playmaking ability off the charts. They are

648
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: wound by days being quarterback, not just that exactly. So

649
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: that's where the communication breakdown apparently is, or probably is,

650
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: because there are other aspects of playing the quarterback position.

651
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: That has been reported on this network multiple times by

652
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: multiple people, and I've heard a lot of the same things.

653
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: The other aspects of playing quarterback are those up to

654
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: par with getting paid what those other guys do with

655
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: every aspect of playing quarterback position, that's the interesting aspect. Yeah,

656
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: if they're winning, what do you mean if the talent

657
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: Kyler has, you guys can say all you want about leadership,

658
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: dedication of the game. If he goes to the to

659
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: the NFC Championship, we don't he's getting that money. Well

660
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: word did you say before NFC Championship if yeah, but

661
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: that's what I mean, he got there. Yeah, I understand

662
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: he has to show my pack. Yes, in my opinion,

663
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: he has to show a little self awareness here because

664
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to dispel like we're like leader, you're

665
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: not a leader. So if he's if he shows that

666
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: he's a leader and they're still losing in the way

667
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: that they're losing and he looks like he did, you know,

668
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: he left a bad taste in everybody's mouth at the

669
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: end of the season. He's not coming off an AFC

670
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: or a great AFC playoff game up against the Chiefs

671
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: like josh Alan didd He's not coming out. I mean

672
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: that contract for Patrick Mahomes came off a Super Bowl win.

673
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: That MVP is Super Bowl MVP and a super Bowl,

674
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: and he's done it none of those. So just a

675
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: little self awareness I want to know, which I didn't see.

676
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: I'm reading this statement. I want to hear that he

677
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: understands he has a lot more to work on personally.

678
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: I didn't see that in that statement. I want to

679
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: see I'm committed. I know I can be the best

680
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: player in this National Football League and on the team.

681
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,959
Speaker 1: I didn't see that. So I love his game. I

682
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: think he's got just as high, if not higher, ceilings

683
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: than all the quarterbacks we've mentioned in this discussion. But

684
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: he has to show a little self awareness. There's plenty

685
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: of work to be done and plenty to prove for Kyler,

686
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: I want to see that part of this. But if

687
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: I get that part from him, I do think they

688
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: should do a deal with him. Yes, if you get

689
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: that part, absolutely. I think if we got that part

690
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: from Kyler, we wouldn't be having this discussion. We all

691
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: be on here fighting eight Arizona. Y'all need to pay this.

692
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: He's done this. He's done this, He's elevating his team

693
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: this and in big situations, he's done this. The biggest

694
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: game of their year had to be what the playoff

695
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: game right usually he was nineteen to thirty four four

696
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty seven yards two interceptions. To me,

697
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: that's indicative of Kylin Murray. That's also indicative of Cliff Kingsbury,

698
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: the two guys that have seemed to be a package

699
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: deal that they brought in together to meet. Some of

700
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: the blame goes to both of them. This gentleman right here,

701
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: it's a general manager of the Detroit Lions. He's entering

702
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: his second offseason with that title. Mister Brad Holmes, welcome

703
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 1: to Good Morning Football. Thanks for having me. Love, isn't it.

704
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 1: You had a combine last year, but it wasn't a combine.

705
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 1: It was more of a let's meet these players on FaceTime.

706
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: Let's meet these guys and watch the tape. What's the

707
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: difference of being here in person your first year as

708
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 1: a GM to do the combine and actually have your

709
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: feet on the ground. It feels great, you know. So

710
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: it was a little bit of nostalgia coming back and

711
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: you know, making drive now and being boots on the

712
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: ground here in Indian You see the prospects, you know,

713
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 1: walking around and it's like, man, we really did miss

714
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 1: this that we didn't have this last year and then

715
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: you know, our staff being able to really communicate with

716
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: the players and get the workout started. But it's good

717
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: to be back here. You guys won three of your

718
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: last five games. There's a lot of positivity coming out

719
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 1: of Detroit. You've got the number two pick, the number

720
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: thirty two pick as the Rams pick, and then the

721
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: number thirty four pick. As you approach the combine, where

722
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: are you guys as far as the draft goes, and

723
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: is this where things start happening or are you guys

724
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 1: already done a lot of the work. Yeah, well, we're

725
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: in a much better place now than we were, you know,

726
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 1: let's say this point a year ago. But I will

727
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: say it's very very excited now. I will say there's

728
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: a lot of smoke around right now. Like it's still

729
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 1: like we gained a little bit of clarity with the

730
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. Hopefully we're not selected to coach the Senior Bowl,

731
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: you know, but like you said, the season ended off

732
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: on a good note. Winning three games is not good enough. Still,

733
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: you know, we want to be better. But we got

734
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,720
Speaker 1: some clarity at the Senior Bowl. We'll get more clarity,

735
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: more questions answered this week here at the combine, and

736
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: you know, as a process goes along, you know that

737
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: smoke starts to clear out a little more. And but

738
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: you got to just tackle each phase of the process

739
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: and get clarity. There's obviously needs on the roster as

740
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 1: you get into this you look at this draft class.

741
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 1: Quarterback may not necessarily be that running back, but offensive line,

742
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: edge guys, defensive players. You look at the Detroit Lions

743
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 1: needs that kind of hits a lot of boxes. Is

744
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: this a good draft for the Lions at the number

745
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 1: two pick? Oh? I think it's a great draft in general,

746
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: just because of all the draft capital that we have,

747
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: just like you mentioned with the three picks in the

748
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: top fifty. But you know, Peter, we have a lot

749
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 1: of work to do. Like like, we have a lot

750
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: of work that is still left. And you know, that's

751
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: what Dan and ods believe are that's what we know.

752
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: We have a good plan in place. But you know,

753
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: you know, having the second pick, having the thirty second pick,

754
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 1: you know we have areas of we have question marks. Yeah,

755
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 1: a lot overall roster. So, um, there's a lot of

756
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: different areas that we can go, a lot of different

757
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: directions we can go. But we're excited to having a

758
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: second overall pick in two picks in the first round,

759
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: and we're gonna make the most of them. It's awesome.

760
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: And in addition to the draft, free agencies right around

761
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: the corner. What would be your pitch as the general

762
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: manager of the Detroit Lions to a free agent looking

763
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: for a new place to play? And Okay, the Lions

764
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: haven't won many games the last few years, but what

765
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,439
Speaker 1: does the Detroit Lions franchise offer a free agent who's

766
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: deciding between maybe Detroit and another destination. Well, look, we

767
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 1: had Dan and I had a plan in place from

768
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: the get go, and you know, we took some lumps

769
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 1: early on, but as you said, you know, you start

770
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: to see that plan really come clear at the end

771
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: part of the season. And what we can definitely offer

772
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: is an outstanding culture. We have a culture of collaboration, communication,

773
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,919
Speaker 1: we're all about grit, We have a multi year plan

774
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: in place, and we just have an outstanding head coach.

775
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: You know, Dan is special. We got great leadership from

776
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: the top, and you know, I sell everybody. You know, look,

777
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: if you want to be a part of this, you know, hey,

778
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: good luck, it's gonna be a fun ride. We didn't

779
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: get the same going. Yeah, and there's an opportunity, right,

780
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: I mean that's what I look at it. As you

781
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: guys had so many undraftfted players and young rookies making

782
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: impact plays in December, I was, I gotta think, if

783
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: you're a young free agent entering your second contract, Detroit's

784
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: a good place to get that chance. Absolutely. You know,

785
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: Dan and I talked about it a lot last year

786
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: about you know, when we brought guys in and we're like, well,

787
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: if you want an opportunity to play, you know, we're

788
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: gonna give anybody any opportunity to play. I don't care

789
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,399
Speaker 1: where you're coming from. I don't care where you're drafted at.

790
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,760
Speaker 1: You know how much money you're making, you know, undrafted

791
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: free agent saying, and those guys and our coaches, you

792
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: know they have a passion to develop and you know

793
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: they're they're true teachers. It's a phenomenal staff and it's

794
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: just a great place to play. So we're gonna have

795
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 1: this build going and it's only going to get better

796
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: and better. All right, let's talk about about you for

797
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 1: a moment and Dan Campbell, because you get the job

798
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: last year and the Lions interview a ton of candidates,

799
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: and there's guys that we knew the names that were

800
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 1: about and around, whether it be Robert Sala or arthur'sman,

801
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: whoever it is, you hired Dan Campbell who didn't have

802
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 1: any other interviews, and who I'm not mistaken you didn't

803
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: have a prior relationship with. How has that come together?

804
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 1: And now I guess twelve months removed, maybe thirteen months removed?

805
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: Where are you and Dan Campbell at from going to

806
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 1: not knowing each other to now building the Detroit Lions

807
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: back up from the ashes. You know, Dan is special.

808
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: He's special as a head coach. He special as a

809
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: human being. He has elite traits just well I think

810
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: about Dan Campbell is he has amazing insight, and he

811
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: has an amazing foresight, and you know, he has these

812
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 1: leadership abilities that people just believe me, he's one of

813
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: those guys that just makes anybody just feel better about themselves.

814
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: And Um, but we're so like minded, We're cut from

815
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: the same cloth. We see things a lot alike from

816
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: a football perspective, from a life perspective. We're friends first,

817
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: you know, that's my brother and UM, and we have

818
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: a great working relationship on top of that, so it

819
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 1: makes the work easy. But you know, we have a plan,

820
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: we're aligned in our plan, and we've just been sticking

821
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: to it. So we're right on place where we're supposed

822
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: to be at and the future is looking bright right now. Now.

823
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: Prior to your time in Detroit, you spent many years

824
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: with the Los Angeles Rams organization. And where were you

825
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: during Super Bowl and what kind of emotions running after

826
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: you seeing several of the players that not only that

827
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 1: you scouted, but I know banged on the table for

828
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,280
Speaker 1: to be drafted, hoisting Lombardi trophies and getting those rings.

829
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: How does that feel for you, knowing that you were

830
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: the voice in the room maybe advocating for some of

831
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 1: those players. Yeah, well, you know, while I was at

832
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 1: home watching it with my family, and uh, you know,

833
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: it was it was inspiring. It was inspiring to see

834
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: because knowing all those guys, knowing the leadership, have so

835
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 1: much respect and admiration for less Need and Sean McVay

836
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 1: and and Kevin and Tony, and they have great leadership

837
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 1: in place and their success is not a surprise. But

838
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 1: you know, sending it like a bunch of congratulatory texts

839
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,720
Speaker 1: to all the guys back there saying I'm so happy

840
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,919
Speaker 1: for you guys, and to get the responses of saying, hey, look, man,

841
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: you were part of this. You know you were part

842
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 1: of this, and you know they didn't have to say that,

843
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: but that was really cool for them to say. And

844
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 1: you know, it makes you feel good. But it was

845
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: inspiring because you know, being a part of that build

846
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: and being a part of that process and spires us

847
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: to go out and do it ourselves. I love seeing it.

848
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: I think Lions fans at home are excited to see, Hey,

849
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: this is someone who helped build that Los Angeles Rams

850
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 1: franchise and now we've got him running hours. Our last question,

851
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: and I'd like to do this with the GMS as

852
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: we head towards the draft and as we head towards

853
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: free agency. Your message to the Lions fans about what

854
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 1: they should be expecting and why they should be optimistic

855
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: about the future of this franchise, Well, you definitely should

856
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: be outtimastic because you know, whoever we end up acquiring

857
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: or selected, whether free agency or through the draft, man,

858
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 1: it's gonna be someone that the city is going to

859
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: be proud of. It's going to be someone that the

860
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: fan base is going to be proud of. Again, what

861
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 1: our culture is about collaboration, communication, great perseverance, and that's

862
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: really the city of Detroit, and that's what our fan

863
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 1: base is all about. So whoever we acquire, they'll definitely

864
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: be fan they'll definitely be proud of, and we want

865
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: to do it for the fans and your Michigan fans.

866
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 1: Calm down, Let him make his decision. Okay, we understand

867
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 1: Number ninety seven is a good player. Let him make

868
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: his decision, Let them do the process, and then we

869
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: can discuss it before we get into this whole go

870
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: blue thing. I don't know. I don't know. We're not

871
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 1: allowed to talk about that yet. Brad Holmes, thank you

872
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 1: so much for joining Good Morning Football. It's a pleasure.

873
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: This is awesome. Thank you for having me. Welcome back

874
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: to Good Morning Football here live in Indianapolis. The man

875
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: you see right here has been a friend of our

876
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: program for five years. When you guys were on Hard

877
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: Knocks that summer we started having Jason light on and

878
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: in that time, not only have the Buccaneers gone to

879
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: the playoffs multiple times, they've also won a Super Bowl.

880
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: And now it all comes full circle. We're back at

881
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: the combine. Jason Light. Great to see you on Good

882
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: Morning Football. Yeah, thanks for having me on. Guys, this

883
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: is it. It's gonna just be you and me. It's

884
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: gonna be a conversation. The guys are back in studio.

885
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: They love you. They all send their regards, but all

886
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,240
Speaker 1: eyes are on obviously Number twelve, who announced his retirement

887
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 1: less than a month ago. We think the retirement, I

888
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: don't know. We'll see. Where are we at in Tampa

889
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: Bay right now as far as the quarterback position goes,

890
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:04,760
Speaker 1: And bidding farewell to mister Brady. Wow. Tom was a

891
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: special player, special person. We've had a great two years

892
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: here right now, we're you know, trying to make our

893
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: plans to move forward if that's the case that we

894
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 1: need to move forward on. And you know, there's a

895
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,879
Speaker 1: lot of things that we still have to get. There's

896
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 1: a lot of time here. Well, a couple of weeks

897
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: before free agency starts. You got the draft, you got

898
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: post draft. We've added players after the draft in the past,

899
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 1: some significant impact players after the draft and after free agency.

900
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: So we're still in that process right now. Yeah, I

901
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 1: go back two years, So let's go back February twenty twenty,

902
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: the combine is going on the Buccaneers. Jamis Winston was

903
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: a free agent. Teddy Bridgewater was at named Tom Brady

904
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: was looming, and you go in and then by March,

905
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Tom Brady's a buccaneer. Did you

906
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,720
Speaker 1: know at the combine two years ago, at this stage

907
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: that Brady was even a possibility? Was that those conversations

908
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: happening now that it's over. Could we go back and

909
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: open the book and be like, when did that all

910
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 1: really start going down? No, you know it was. It

911
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: was in our plans. We were he was. We had

912
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: to have door number one, door number two, door number three,

913
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: all those different things kind of converging at once, and

914
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: it came to a head when free agency started. So

915
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 1: at this point that year, we had no idea. It

916
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: was in the same really new about as much as

917
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: you did. Yeah, And so it came to a head

918
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 1: as soon as free agency started, And man, what a

919
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: day that was. And what's this franchise like now with

920
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: Brady now on the way out. So then before he

921
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: got here, what kind of impact did he leave on

922
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: not only the players but the organization as a whole well, tremendous.

923
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 1: When we signed him, we talked about that, how the

924
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,439
Speaker 1: impact that he was going to have, me having first

925
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 1: hand experience being in New England with him for seven years,

926
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 1: what he's done for them and what he's done for

927
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: us is just that it's built a winning culture, along

928
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: with our coaching staff and PA of course, but built

929
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: a winning culture. Set the standard very high, and now

930
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 1: everyone knows what the standard is and everyone works a

931
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: little a lot harder at reaching that standard. Yeah, and

932
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: you look at the veterans in that building, whether it's Lavante,

933
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: David or Mike Ns and I almost feel like now

934
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: that they've got that, there's almost a different air to

935
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 1: those guys, not only in the building but around the league. Yeah. Absolutely,

936
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: it's definitely a different feel in our building. And it started,

937
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: I would say, you know, even pre Brady, when when

938
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: Bruce came on board, and then Brady and then all

939
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: of us. We do have. We have a ton of

940
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 1: players that we owe credit for getting us where we

941
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: have been in the last couple of years. It's not

942
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: just Tom, but Tom's brought the best out of everybody.

943
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,280
Speaker 1: So Blaine Gabbert's a free agent at the moment Kyle Trask,

944
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: you guys selected in the third round. For the viewers

945
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 1: at home and maybe Bucks fans like, what did you

946
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,720
Speaker 1: guys see from Kyle Trask? Because maybe he isn't the starter,

947
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 1: but at least we know he's on the roster right now,

948
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: Where are we getting from him after one year of

949
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 1: learning from Brady the greatest of all time? Well, Kyle

950
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 1: was a really productive, prolific SEC quarterback. We took him

951
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: last year in the second round. We felt like we

952
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: got great value with him. We love everything that we've

953
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 1: seen from him this year. He's soaked it in behind Tom,

954
00:45:56,400 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: behind Blaine, behind Ryan Griffins. Some veterans really aren't beteran quarterbacks.

955
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: And then to see what it takes to reach a

956
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: high level with Tom has been, you know, it's just invaluable.

957
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: He's got a good arm, he's very smart, he works

958
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: very hard. So I'm very excited to see what he

959
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: can do for us in this offseason. Yeah, it's it's

960
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: an opportunity for him and we'll see what you guys

961
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: do if there's a free agent you bring in, and

962
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,280
Speaker 1: we'll have to assess it after that. Find the NFC

963
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: South really interesting, right, now because Brady leaves and it's

964
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: like all right, it's wide open, right, and it's like, no, actually,

965
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers still have a lot of core players on

966
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: that roster, but you do have several free agents, and

967
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: as you go into this week and then free agency

968
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks, not to have to list

969
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: your priorities, but we know the names, we've seen them,

970
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: whether it be Gronk or Godwin or so many of

971
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: these other talented players. Where do you kind of set

972
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 1: the stage here and say, hey, are we rebuilding or

973
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: are we are we still in this thing where we

974
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,280
Speaker 1: can win even without Tom Brady as our quarterback. Yeah,

975
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,879
Speaker 1: we still feel like we have a chance to win

976
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 1: this year and we're in a division where we think

977
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 1: we can compete. We have a lot of plays that

978
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: are free agents, but we're and we have a lot

979
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: of priorities. It's just gonna just depends on how the

980
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: puzzle fits together. We want to we want to win

981
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: this year. We want to compete this year for the

982
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: for the title, but we also want to keep our

983
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: eye on the future too. We don't want to mortgage

984
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 1: too much too soon. So it's just going to depend

985
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: on how with the market Bears. But we're going to

986
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: try to bring some of these a lot of these

987
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 1: guys back. This is not your first combine, You've been

988
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 1: doing this for twenty plus years. Like, do you still

989
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: get excited being here in Indy looking at this and

990
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 1: saying this is roster building time, This is where our

991
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 1: GM really makes his bones. When you get here and

992
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: you see the same hallways in the same faces, does

993
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: it still give you throw even after the Super Bowl

994
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: Championship with the Bucks? Yeah? It does. It's it's fun

995
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: to be here. I was thinking about it on my

996
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: way here today. It's my twenty seventh year. Seven What

997
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: teams were you with? It started with Miami, Carolina, New England, Arizona, Philly,

998
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:55,439
Speaker 1: Arizona again, New England again. So and I actually worked

999
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: for the combine for a couple of years too, so

1000
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 1: for the actual for the actual NFS. Yeah, bye. So

1001
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: I think I've almost logged a full year in staying

1002
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: in hotels here and so I don't know if that

1003
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 1: makes me a full time resident or not, but it

1004
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: h Yeah, So I've spent a lot of time here.

1005
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: I do like it. It's a great set up here. Yeah,

1006
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: And this draft class. I know, you guys are drafting

1007
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: at the end of the first round, not a quarterback draft,

1008
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: not a running back draft, but a lot of big boys,

1009
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: a lot of pass rushers, a lot of offensive linement.

1010
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: How would you assess this draft class as a whole um.

1011
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 1: You know, there's some good skill on offense. Uh, there's

1012
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,479
Speaker 1: some good edge players on defense. There's some good skill

1013
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: players on defense as well. It's I would say it's

1014
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: not super heavy at the top, but there's a lot

1015
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: of good mid round picks. I think that are going

1016
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 1: to be had this year. Yeah, and I think you know,

1017
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah has a lot of the work, and you

1018
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: know Daniel ill And he was saying, you know, top

1019
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: twenty might be up for grabs, but from thirty to ninety,

1020
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: guys can go in any sort of order right now

1021
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: because there's such depth at those positions. And I think

1022
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: that's exciting for a GM because you know, as much

1023
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: as it's about Brady and and and obviously Gronk, a

1024
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: lot of those guys were homegrown on that championship team

1025
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: and they're still homegrown and it's really built here at

1026
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: the combine. Yeah. Sure, as we've you know, We've had

1027
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: a lot of players that we've taken in those mid

1028
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: rounds that we got excited about pre combined, but then

1029
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 1: post combine and even more excited about. Ali. Marpett was

1030
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: one of them, so being a we took him to

1031
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: the second round, a D three kid from Hobart and

1032
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: I won't throw you off. I know he retired or

1033
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 1: announced his retirement. Did you see that coming? Or was

1034
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: that as we had heard for a little while that

1035
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 1: he was contemplating this So didn't come as a complete

1036
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: surprise on Sunday, but it just happy for him, you know,

1037
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 1: goes out on top. Do you have your phone with you?

1038
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 1: Because I think we should face time Brady and just

1039
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 1: not big, not plead, but you and I are pretty

1040
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: convincing guys. You've convinced really big name free agents to come.

1041
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: I have convinced Kay and Kyle to drink coffee in

1042
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 1: the morning at ungodly hours. Do you think maybe we

1043
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: could put them on. We'll see what the future holds. Well,

1044
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 1: let's just say we'll leave the light on. Is there hope? Honestly,

1045
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: is the light on? Is there? Hope? We always leave

1046
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: the light on for a guy like Tom Brady We'll

1047
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: leave the light on for you as we speak hotels

1048
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: here in Indianapolis. That's a perfect way to end it.

1049
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: So happy to have you on Jason Light. Super Bowl

1050
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: winning GM of not only the New England Patriots on

1051
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: their staff, but now a general manager of your own

1052
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: team with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. A new era for

1053
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: the Bucks right now. We're so excited to have you

1054
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: on here. I appreciate it.