1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: M The Around the League Podcast dances on the precipice 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: of matnis. Welcome back to another edition of the Round 3 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: the League Podcast. My name is Dan Hanza as I'm 4 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: joined by room filled with heroes Chris Westling, Mark Sessler 5 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: and Greg Rosa Doll. What up, boys? You know we 6 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: just did uh an opener here where I think the 7 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: seventh grade version of of Dan attempted to open the 8 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: show and we had to start it over. We have 9 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: to let the audience out. Every time I botched the open. 10 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: I like to open the door. I'm gonna get my 11 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 1: revenge for that. Mark, Mark my words, just making it real. 12 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: I like when you keep it real. Tension raised in 13 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: the studio sixty six here, No, I my voice cracked, 14 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 1: and it's because I'm ill. And let me tell you something. 15 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: Warrior right here came to work anyway. Greg. This is 16 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: right up there with Michael Jordan's flu game. How is 17 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: everybody doing today? Great Friday, It's quiet time of year 18 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: where it's terrific um the gold standard. Welcome back behind 19 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: the glass, Thank you, thanks for having me. Guys. Do 20 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: you want to try to drop a seduction Friday? I 21 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 1: don't think you should, but now you don't think I should. 22 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: That was a rhetorical question. I was just saying, because 23 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: k Rich did it in her visit last week, I'm 24 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: feeling a little Friday, let's not do it. Actually I 25 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: immediately had regrets. Okay, it was it was all cute. Up. 26 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: I know, I know. I'm sorry. I'm sorry for getting 27 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: your hopes up. Um. We have a full show today 28 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: again the football landscape. It might be it may seem silent, 29 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: but there's no shortage of topics on the Around the 30 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: League podcast. People have been pleading at us they've been 31 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: enjoying these off seasons, saying they liked the off season 32 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: podcast even more than the regular season. Yes, today is Friday, 33 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: April eleven. This is the release of Draft Day. If 34 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: you've watched NFL Network at all this week, you are 35 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: acutely aware of this fact. Mark and I did a 36 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: write up review type thing that went up Thursday night, 37 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk about Draft Day a little bit. 38 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna go back into our Roster Reset series and 39 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: check in on the a f C East and the 40 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: NFC South, and we'll call up the great Kevin Patra 41 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: to get his thoughts because he handled the NFC South 42 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: for the Around the League page. But before that gold standard, 43 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: why don't we do some news. Alex Mack signed his 44 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: five year, forty two million dollar offer sheet with the 45 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: Jaguars the Cleveland Browns Center under the transition tag. Now 46 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: it's up to the Browns to match it. They have 47 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: five days to decide whether or not they want to 48 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: bring back the Pro Bowl Center, and according to Ian Rappaport, 49 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: that is not a short thing. The team has not 50 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 1: made a decision on whether they will match the offer. 51 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: Sources in Cleveland indicate the team is quote really mulling 52 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 1: it over. I see some communication between Greg and Mark. 53 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 1: Who's gonna start? And I'm just gonna throw it out 54 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: there and see who takes? What do you want? You 55 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: want them to keep Mac? Right? Mark? I think so? 56 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 1: I mean it's it is a lot of money. You're 57 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: not sure it's a lot of money, so you're not 58 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: sure any center is worth it. Ross Tucker, who we've 59 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: had on the passket he made a written argument that 60 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: no center is worth that money. I think, for me, 61 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: what more is worth it is a player that, as 62 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: West pointed out on the last show, has not missed 63 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: a snap since two thousand and nine. Those kind of 64 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: guys are hard to find. I like, um, he's one 65 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: of the few Browns that you could say from a 66 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: durability angle, has that going for him. It's not the 67 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: kind of guy you want to lose. But you know, listen, 68 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: Cleveland took a risk with the transition tag, and this 69 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: is now they're paying the price. They don't have to 70 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: pay too much of a price. They were gonna pay 71 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: him ten and a half billion this year. They'll pay 72 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: him eighteen million over the next two years, which is 73 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: actually lowering the average salary. And uh, he'll have a 74 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: player option going into the third year. Without getting too 75 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: deep into it, it doesn't seem onerous. It seems like 76 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: a contract they would match. They have the cap room 77 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: right they do. And the one thing that I found, 78 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: there's no poison pill in here. But the Jaguars and 79 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: Max camp did a nice job of putting in a 80 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 1: no trade clause because there was some whispers that what 81 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: Cleveland might try to do is match and then get 82 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: anything they could from the Jaguars by trading him back 83 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: to Jacksonville at some point, which is a lot harder 84 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: to do than it seems. But they covered their basis. 85 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,239 Speaker 1: I thought that was for Max benefit, but it's really 86 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: for the Jaguars benefit. Well, I think it was if Cleveland. Yes, 87 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: I think if Cleveland were to match, it's it's like 88 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: you can't turn around and get something back from Jacksonville. 89 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: They would lose out on Mac. But West give me 90 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: a power rankings on the offensive line in terms of importance, 91 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: you have left, tackle, guards, center. What is the center 92 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: factor in in that? In your opinion? Fifth out of five? Really? Yeah, 93 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 1: and that might explain some things. Why do you think that? 94 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: I think that because, uh, players like Ross Tucker, who 95 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: has played uh every position basically on the line and 96 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: really the interior. He came out and the article Greg 97 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: was referencing. Tucker said, Uh, it's common knowledge among all 98 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: into your linement, the center is the easiest to play. 99 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: And I think we've been reading that for a couple 100 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: of decades now. It was in a more important position 101 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: in the seventies and eighties. And I don't know enough 102 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: about the history of the game to say why it 103 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: was more important, but it was generally considered more important 104 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: back then than it is now. And they took a look. 105 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: There was a tweet the other day of the last 106 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: five Super Bowl winners and the salaries of their centers, 107 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: and they were strikingly low. They were like three hundred 108 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: thousand per years. Look at the Saints. They had a guy, 109 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: Brian day la Puente who held his own at center 110 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: the last couple of years, and theyre offense for a 111 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: great offense, and they let him walk out the door, 112 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: never tried to resign him. The Bear signed him for peanuts, 113 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 1: and the Saints just think they can plug anybody in there. Well, 114 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: just like they let Jonathan Goodwin, their old center, walk 115 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: away and didn't really care, just figured they'll replace him 116 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: with anyone. I think part of that is that Breeze 117 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: is so good at pre snap adjustments, and once the 118 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: play happens, he's so good to get rid of the 119 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: ball quickly and buying extra time. He makes his offensive 120 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: line looks look as good as any quarterback does. I 121 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: think you've got your quarterbacks to call out line changes, 122 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 1: in line adjustments, your mannings. But I think the one 123 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: advantage to not switching a center four times in a 124 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: season or having to do it every year is that consistency. 125 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: The guy that just knows in his own division what 126 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: he's seen from certain players. I mean, Mac did bring that, 127 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: but I'm leaning towards you know what. Listen, the guy 128 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: doesn't want to be there anyways, let him go there. Well, 129 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: they have until Wednesday, UH to decide whether to match it, 130 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 1: and I hope they wait till Wednesday so that we 131 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 1: can get Alex Mack into the program. Seven straight shows. 132 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 1: They can't get enough of Alex. Your point is why 133 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 1: I don't get the no trade part of it. He 134 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 1: doesn't want to be in Cleveland. Why does he care 135 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: if he's traded? And if the jack Jaguars won him 136 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: that bad, why not give up a late round draft? 137 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: And I think it prevents Cleveland from matching, is what 138 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: I meant to say, because if you're Cleveland, you cannot 139 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: trade Mac if you bring it. I think they really 140 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: if they this guy does not want to be here, 141 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: Jacksonville really wants me, wants to go there. We could 142 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: match and trade him back to Jacksonville for even something. 143 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: Let me just jump in and just say that. NFL 144 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: media insider Ian Rap Report reported Thursday night that there 145 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: is no issue with Alex Mack not wanting to be 146 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: in Cleveland. I know that's been reported. Maybe that's changed. 147 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: Maybe it hasn't, but Ian reported last night that that's 148 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: not as big as an issue as many people would 149 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: any center have an issue making this much money, and 150 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: what's he gonna do anyways? He by all accounts, is 151 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: a good teammate, hard worker, a good player. If if 152 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: you're in Cleveland, you're gonna make the best of it, 153 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: And how hard could center me? That's actually is the 154 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: tone of that chamber of comments. If you're stuck here, 155 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: make the best, how and how I'm gonna get you? 156 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: How hard could center me to play? If Manny Ramirez, 157 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: former baseball player comes off the street sides of the 158 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: Broncos last year, not not even a hard working idiot 159 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: savant at center. Uh? Moving on, Bob Groats, I hope 160 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: I'm pronouncing your last name correctly. Bob of the Delaware 161 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: County Daily Times reported Wednesday night that the Eagles made 162 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: an offer two months ago for Miami Dolphins pass rusher 163 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: Dion Jordan's. According to a league source, the Eagles attempted 164 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: to package a second round pick and linebacker defensive and 165 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,719 Speaker 1: branded Graham and exchange for last year's number three overall pick. 166 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: The deal didn't happen I guess, you know, maybe something 167 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: could happen down the line. And this is also just 168 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: the report. We don't know how serious it is, but 169 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: I can't are the I know there are reports about 170 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: Dion Jordan being on the trade block. Why would the 171 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 1: Dolphins give up on this guy so quickly? I know 172 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: it's a prior regime, but there's a lot of skill. 173 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: There's a lot of skill with this guy. What position 174 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: does he play? He sat the bench last year. The 175 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: Olivier Vernon, who plays the same position as Dion Jordan, 176 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: had a breakout year. Jordan's is when he was coming out, 177 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: was considered a better fit in a three four defense 178 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: as an outside linebacker. Now he's stuck in a four 179 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: three and they don't have a starting spot for him 180 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: unless they release Philip Philip Wheeler and and Philbin. At 181 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: the in Orlando a couple of weeks ago, he said, Oh, 182 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna we're looking at We're gonna fix his snap count. 183 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna try to get but they don't have a 184 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: clear plan for him, and they have an excess on them. 185 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: Well it is on them, of course, but it's like 186 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: they also seem like they got this guy. They don't 187 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: quite know how to use him, but by the way, 188 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: he's very similar to JV. Not the current GM found 189 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: a way to use a different sort of skill set 190 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: defensive lineman that's bigger and leader and can go back 191 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: and coverage every now and then. But in house seer 192 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: Chris Wesling tweeted long before this report came out that 193 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: this was a natural trade target for the Eagles. I mean, 194 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: and it obviously is for Chip Kelly. But Westland you 195 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: mentioned this ages ago, Well he isn't. I think he's 196 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: best suited to the outside linebacker N three four, So 197 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: that was one of the reasons, and in the obvious 198 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: connection that he played college ball under Chip Kelly. I 199 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: like that the Eagles are setting out trade offers like 200 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: the guy in your keeper fantasy league that it's not 201 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: really a fair offer at all, But hey, what could 202 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 1: be the downside here? Maybe the new Dolphins regime doesn't 203 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: really like Jordan's Well, let's just give it a shot. 204 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 1: Why that gives a chance. But if you're Philly, would 205 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: you give up now number twenty two? If that's it 206 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: sounds like that's the stakes are moving more. They didn't 207 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: want the second round during Graham, it's got to be 208 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: maybe the first round that feels expensive for well, it didn't. 209 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: The Browns basically set the the trade table on this one. 210 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: Number three overall pick one year equals a first round 211 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: pick the next year when Trent Richardson was a third 212 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 1: overall pick and they got a first round pick for him. 213 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: So it seems like the Dolphins would have to get 214 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: a first round pick for deonjo do in the league 215 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: came up a first round and pick. That seems like 216 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: a fair trade. Some quarterback news around the New York Giants. 217 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: First up, Eli Manning successfully always successfully the surgeries completed 218 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: orthoscopic surgery on his left ankle on Thursday afternoon. The 219 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: timetable has him out about six weeks, which would get 220 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 1: him back on his feet in mid May. And in 221 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: other news, there's a report out there that Josh Freeman 222 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,839 Speaker 1: will work out for the Giants. Josh obviously spent last 223 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: year at the Bucks and then Vikings and has been 224 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: unable to find a job to this point. Well, the 225 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 1: Giants coaches were so impressed with all the passes that 226 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: Freeman completed to them on the sidelines during the game. 227 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 1: They just thought, Wow, this guy's got some heat on 228 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: his fastball. It's like, that's a great point actually because 229 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: we it. Actually it's almost in Laura. Now, if you 230 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: follow the NFL closely, how bad Josh Freeman's one start 231 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: as a Viking was. It's almost amazing that the team 232 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: that that game came against and and listen, he was 233 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 1: behind the eight ball, which is people don't think about that. 234 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: The coaching staff in Minnesota unfairly kind of rushed him 235 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: into the starting lineup when he wasn't ready and clearly 236 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: as mechanics, already shot at that point. But at the 237 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 1: same time that the Giants, that team that he played against, 238 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: would be the one that hosts him. That's kind of interesting. 239 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: Before we came up to the studio, I saw a 240 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: report that the Giants were also uh kicking the tires 241 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: on Matt Flint. Yeah, so what are the Packers doing? 242 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: You re signed Matt Flynn. He's perfect Why he's the 243 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: perfect backup for the Packers. He's proven it twice. Now 244 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 1: set the bar higher. Yeah, I agree with Mark, What 245 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 1: is it? What did he do wrong when he signed 246 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: last year? Did you watch the first couple of games? Yeah, 247 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: offense until the other team went into into prevent mode. 248 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: That was my problem with him. If Josh Freeman had 249 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: the physical makeup of sake Colt McCoy, no one would 250 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: take a look at him. Ever, again, I think it's 251 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: his size, his height that has teams thinking we can 252 00:12:58,040 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: do so, we can fix this guy. He was a 253 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: order for years by the way Josh Freeman was for 254 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: a lot of reasons. But it's a fact an effective 255 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: NFL starter over the course of an entire season. Colt McCoy, 256 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: let's not put him. Let's not put him in that 257 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,959 Speaker 1: category with a Matt Flitter. Could McCoy He is showed 258 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: he could be pretty useful. Maybe not the best quarterback 259 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: in the league. But you throw whatever that two thousand 260 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: and eleventh season was that, you know, that's pretty impressive. 261 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: My big takeaway from this whole discussion is nobody knows 262 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: anything about the NFL draft. Remember last year when Doug 263 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 1: Nasseb was going to be the Ryan Nasset Ryan Nasty 264 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: don't even know his name because the Giants got him 265 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: apparently stuck in the third quarterback role. He was supposed 266 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: to be the best quarterback in the draft class last 267 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: year was number two for months in according to several 268 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: people the best quarterback in the draft class. Giants don't 269 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: even want him apparently, Well, they also might have realized 270 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: with this Eli Manning surgery, Oh no, Curtis Painter and 271 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: Ryan Nasset are the next guys on our list. Eli 272 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: Manning has never missed a game in his NFL career. 273 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: Maybe it reminded them and he's never had a surgery. 274 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: This is really the first major injury for him, and 275 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: maybe it got them thinking about life without Eli. By 276 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: the way, Matt Flinn not a perfect quarterback, but Week sixteen, 277 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: Packers come back from a twenty three point deficit to 278 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: beat the Cowboys in Dallas. Throws four touchdown passes in 279 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: the second half. That remember who was in before Aaron 280 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: after that guy came that performance predictive? Well no, but 281 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: he's not well nothing is. I mean, he's been okay 282 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: for the Packers a few times. That's fair. He does 283 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: in his first outing in Green Bay. His first and 284 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: second word a disaster, flirting with disaster if if he's 285 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: your backup quarterback and you're a contender. Freeman, by the way, 286 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: is making a huge mistake if he doesn't go to 287 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: the loving arms of Mark Trestman. Moving on, the Buffalo 288 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: Bills have a famous suitor in uh, you know, the 289 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: franchise is up for grabs, potentially after Ralph Wilson passed away. 290 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: This is Kevin Patrick's writing. Rocker Jon bon Jovi reportedly 291 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: will be the face of a Toronto rocker. Jon bon 292 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: Jovi reportedly will be the face of a Toronto based 293 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: group seeking to purchase the club. This according to the 294 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: Toronto Sun. All right, you're writing that post. What is 295 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: your preface to John bon Jovi? How would you label him? 296 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: The handsome pop rocker Jon bon Jovi. Let's go around 297 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: the room with this one. This is the most depressing 298 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: story of her I've read in years. Because you can 299 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: sing into a microphone. You make enough money in this 300 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: country too, then buy a multi hundreds of millions of 301 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: dollars football team. Is this related to Gloria Stefan in 302 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: your world? It's just depressing that think are the people 303 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: that make so much money they can buy football team? 304 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: Has a lot of money. He doesn't have enough money 305 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: to buy an NFL team. He'll be closer to the 306 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: Gloria Estefan, Venus and Serena Williams, like you know, one percent. 307 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: Celebrity ownership, by the way, it want going to be 308 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: a huge part of it. One of Bill Belichick's best 309 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: friends for going back decades. How dare he then go 310 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: inside the division and try to see move take an 311 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: a f C East team number one, displaced them out 312 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: of the United States and then dissolved them from the 313 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: inside out. Jon bon Jovi, I'm dispatching you to do that. Rock. 314 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: You're not giving nearly enough credit. Two days with the 315 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Soul right now championship. Here's as someone that grew 316 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: up in the region, I could tell you there might 317 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: be heat here too. Jon bon Jovi bought a New 318 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: York based team New Jersey guy always a lot of 319 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: heat between those two states, and said, not only am 320 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: I buying this team, I'm taking them out of the 321 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: US of A. That's quite a shot at New York. 322 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: Does he plan on taking them out of the United States? 323 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: That that's the plan with this group? I think it's 324 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: a Toronto potentially wait this coming on the heels of 325 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 1: Toronto in the NFL deciding this one time a season 326 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: game didn't work this time, or I can do it 327 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: next year. But it's a little confusing Judy Batista spoke 328 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: about it at the annual meetings with me that this 329 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 1: Rogers communication, they really want to get the Bills. Basically, 330 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: they want to get a team, and they want him 331 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,719 Speaker 1: in Toronto, and yet I don't. It doesn't seem like 332 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: that it's gonna work. Toronto already has a team, the Orgonauts, 333 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: and the Bills have been in Buffalo for fifty years. 334 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 1: Keep him there, raise your hand or speak out loud 335 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 1: for the purposes of the audio uh portion of the podcast, 336 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: which is the entirety of the podcast. If you own 337 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: a bon Jovi album currently stop ever, Yes, just as 338 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: I had a girlfriend in like fifth or sixth grade 339 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: where that was. I don't have a single bunch of 340 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: but have you did in the past? Never know you 341 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 1: were driving around and Subaru young for albums. No, I know. 342 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 1: I was a Springsteen guy, so you kind of look 343 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 1: down on Jovi. What is the crucial bon Jovie song? 344 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: I'll go around the room right now. If you had 345 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: to pick one, come on, let's not be now about 346 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: this living on a prayer. Yes, Mark, I'd have to 347 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: echo that I'm gonna go with it's my life because well, 348 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: because it's the worst song ever, and it's it was 349 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 1: always played and it's always like, hey, here's bon Jovi's 350 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: new song. He's still great, but it's terrible. And by 351 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: now that's fifteen years old too. I like how Richie 352 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: Sambora got the chance to to do that whistling into 353 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: the tube effect next to his mic and brought that 354 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: into the mainstream and the millennium. Uh, Living on a 355 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 1: Prayer was the best song I liked, lay Your Hands 356 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: on Me that's an old jam gold standard. Behind the Glass, Yeah, 357 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: that was the intro to what was the Young also 358 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: the deadliest catch. Another option would have been bad medicine. 359 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: Your your love is like bad medicine. What little you 360 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: know that Bob Dylan actually wrote that song, So boncau Dan, 361 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: did you know that Living on a Prayer? When that 362 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: song came out, it was not as big as Shot 363 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: through the Heart? Right? Shot through the Heart was always 364 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 1: a little overrated to me. Yea more famous like a 365 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: generation lady. They were both huge. They were The Heart 366 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 1: was the what the first song that put them on 367 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: the map. Well, they're not none of you John bon 368 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 1: Jovie album. We were a little young for that. I 369 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: was a little I had to but he was not 370 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 1: my cup of tea. He had reached a zenith by 371 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: about eighty nine or so, and that a little before 372 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 1: Greg and eyes time as music lovers. And if you 373 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: guys weren't in Who's we know? Gold Standard wasn't buying 374 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: the Keep the Faith album. So if bon Jovi was 375 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 1: a pair of jeans, they would be acid washed. That 376 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: is correct thought. Maybe that's what you should eat this year. 377 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: I don't think it's a good idea to eat acid 378 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: how about it? The scientist speaks, If bon Jovi buys 379 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 1: the Bills and moves them to Toronto, will you eat 380 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: acid wash jeans? Chris Wesley? They should be forced to 381 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: the people of Toronto. No, the ownership group, Oh like, 382 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: that's the last stipulation in the contract. Then they stay 383 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: and then they stay in Buffalo. That would basically be 384 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 1: what would be like for Bills fans if that happened. Alright, 385 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: Moving on Draft Day starring Kevin Costner and Jennifer Garner. 386 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: Out Friday, Mark Cesler and I wrote up a review. 387 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: I would call it a middling review of the film. 388 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: Maybe not that there are writing, but in terms of 389 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: what we thought about the movie, I would say be minus. 390 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: We settled on um West. What were your thoughts about 391 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: the movies? You were in the theater with us, great 392 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: chose not to join us. Famously, I already forget much 393 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: of the movie, but that's not to say it wasn't entertaining. 394 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: Mark and I uh went to Happy Hour before the movie. 395 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: Uh had I think we were there for an hour, 396 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: hour and a half went to the movie and neither 397 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: of us got up once during the whole film, which 398 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 1: shows you that it was enough to keep our attention. 399 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: And um, I think I was thinking about getting up 400 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: for an hour, but it just pulled me in. So 401 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: that's my review. It kept your mind off of more 402 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 1: pressing in normal cases matters, So that's something well. I 403 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: think Dan and I also talked about. Like going into it, 404 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: my expectations were low. I'm not expecting this film to 405 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: recreate cinema or you know, solve some of the world's issues, 406 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: and it didn't. What are you talking about? I saw 407 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: your review basically, yeah about that. Learn not to do 408 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: that again. Let's put that way full of hot from 409 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: stock to finish delivers on the great tension of the 410 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:12,719 Speaker 1: NFL draft, whilst showing how human the entire process is 411 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:18,479 Speaker 1: well now hold on Mark Sessla NFL dot com around 412 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: the league. That's the banner at running across the home 413 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 1: music from how did when did Mark become that? I 414 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 1: asked the Gold Center to deliver me some background music 415 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 1: with emotional heft. That that was Dances with Wolves potentially, Mark, 416 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: do you want to explain that you were quoted by 417 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 1: their promotional I will explain it. Um. The process was 418 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: when I was on my vacation, I found out I 419 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: had like twenty minutes to do this. I was late 420 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: on delivering it and wrote it while tending to my 421 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 1: two toddlers. So but nonetheless I sort of stand by 422 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: what I wrote because I do think the film had 423 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: a fair amount of heart. That's what it had going 424 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: for it, much more than There's a lot of stuff 425 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: in terms of the technical wheeling and dealing of the 426 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 1: draft day scenarios that was absurd. Some of the ways 427 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: the teams would negotiate, and how Costa didn't even know 428 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: the name of a fellow GM. That stuff rang absurd 429 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: to me. But a lot of background information did haverd 430 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 1: and it did show. I thought it showed some of 431 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,360 Speaker 1: the human stuff, like the Jacksonville GM, for instance, who 432 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: was a bumbling, sweating idiot. That's sort of what I meant. 433 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: They put some of my words together, and that's that's fine. 434 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: But I I stand by that. I was eternally vigilant 435 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: while I was watching the movie, waiting just to jump 436 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: over some scene that really wouldn't happen in the NFL, 437 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: and for the most part I thought it rang pretty true. Well, 438 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: what about when Dennis Leary lit a draft analyst guide 439 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,719 Speaker 1: on fire and threw it on Costner's death That actually 440 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: happened Dick Geron in two thousands. What about when the 441 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl incumbent quarterback went into the general manager's office 442 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: and completely trashed it in a rage when he found 443 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 1: out that they were gonna take By the way, Belichick 444 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 1: read this from beginning to end and gave his nose. 445 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: He couldn't see like Ryan Leaf doing that. I guess 446 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: you're right. Um. I have a quote also, if you 447 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: if we run that music back, if they want to 448 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 1: use it, I'm gonna throw it out there. Draft Day 449 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: definitely not Kevin Costner's sports movie version of Watt World. 450 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 1: Don Hansas NFL dot Com. What accent was that? What 451 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 1: kind of human being three times within with like a 452 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: wireless that what Esperanto sounds like it's a really bad 453 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: actor at Game of Thrones, the guy that can't hold 454 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: an accent and has no level. Speaking of acting, Arian 455 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: Foster had a genuinely moving moment in the film in 456 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: the third act which he wasn't terrible. He did he terrible. 457 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: Arian Foster plays like an eighteen year old or something 458 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: old and he's really like thirty almost, Yeah, he didn't, 459 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 1: but he doesn't look too old. He's not like, I 460 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: don't know, give me an example of a young that 461 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: comes in it looks like he's thirty. James Vanderbeek, Yeah, 462 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 1: I guess James Vanderbeek and Varsity is a good example. Yeah. 463 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 1: I think Foster just kind of makes Timothy better actor 464 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:15,479 Speaker 1: uh Arian Foster or Jesus Shuttlesworth a k a. Ray Allen. 465 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 1: Ray Allen I thought was genuinely well. Wasn't ash to 466 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: do a lot more than King and Fast Break? Oh 467 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 1: that's really show I have to reference. And I've noticed 468 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: that the reviews for the most part have kind of 469 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: been in the same boat as us. There was I 470 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: knew there was gonna be the obligatory review that just 471 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: destroys the film and basically positions the NFL is an 472 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: evil conglomerate. That was some Slate review which I read, 473 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: which was kind of silly to me, is an okay 474 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: movie and just want to do Yeah, I mean, good job, Slate. 475 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: Way to take a stand, the same stand you've been 476 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: taking for a decade and a half. Now it's like cigarette, 477 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: all right, moving on Slate. He on the back and forth. 478 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: And I am not an NFL schill, but that was 479 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,239 Speaker 1: my immediate thought when I watched the movie, is this 480 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: is gonna be an easy target for the blogger out 481 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: there to write we're not smart to we're not smart 482 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: enough to argue the NFL. This is an NFL commercial 483 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 1: in a hundred and twenty minute form, and they and 484 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 1: that was the outlet that went with it. But for 485 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: the most part, I found that the reviews have been okay. 486 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: It's it's a C plus B minus movie. We should 487 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 1: have Slate on the show, continue this draft day conversation 488 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: for weeks more. I think I think I understand would 489 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: be the first that we'd be better dressed than the guests. Greg, 490 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: will you go see this in the theater? To see 491 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 1: it for free, passed only if they cordon off a 492 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 1: parking spot right in front of the theater just for him. 493 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I have a child. It's different. You really 494 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: gotta pick and choose where you're gonna see a movie, 495 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: So no, I would not. All right, So I'm gonna 496 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 1: pass around a piece of paper. Thank thank you Gold 497 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: Center for reminding me whether we'll talk about this more. Um, 498 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 1: let's do. Let's play a little game. We're all gonna 499 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: guess the box office gross for Draft Day this upcoming weekend. Uh, 500 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: the closest without going over and wait, don't write down, 501 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 1: because I have a little information I want everyone to have, 502 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 1: and whoever comes closest without going over it gets a 503 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: free dinner and drinks on our next a t l outing. 504 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 1: Let me just give you a couple of little bits 505 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: of information. The last two Costner put out two movies 506 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 1: this year. Jack Ryan Shadow Recruit made fifteen four opening weekend. 507 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: Three Days to Kill made twelve point two. Those are 508 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: both bus um, so just keep that in mind. That's 509 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: where he's been in his first two movies. Material. Here, 510 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: as we're writing, people are hanging on the edge of 511 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: the seats. Let's get closer to let's do like, let's 512 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: say thirty points seven go point, let's go point so 513 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: we can break ties. Alright, let's put it in West 514 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: his hat. Now, well you have to wear your hat. 515 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: Al right, here we go. Wait, how do I know 516 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: who's this? Who's this fluorescent green drinking glass? All right? 517 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: Should we hold onto these until? Should we not look 518 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 1: at them? Should? All right? Let's see Wes had elevent 519 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: billion in the crusted out twenty two point two million? Alright, 520 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: what's it done? High? That would be a surprise hit. Well, 521 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: West has seen it. He has a reference point. I 522 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: had no idea what a movie to Mark Sessler eighteen 523 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: point eight million, eighteen point eight eight mins out to 524 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: those two are not even close. Greg Rosenthal nine point 525 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: nine million, just missing the ten million marker. I thought 526 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: you said the fifteen point two over so that was 527 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: you know, I was worried about that. You said the 528 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: one that was a bust made how much? But that's 529 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: a point. But that's a much better. Uh, that's like 530 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: a Greg, you've ever thought it down to a sign? 531 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: I have mine at twelve point seven million. So I'm 532 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: liking this. So I'm liking this inflammation, Greg nine point nine, 533 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: Dan twelve point seven, Sessler eighteen point eight eight, and 534 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: West twenty two point two. So we'll we'll come back 535 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: on Monday and we will find out who came closest 536 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: and who's getting drinks and food for free. West going 537 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: to be who's pay we the whoever wins, the three 538 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: other guys pay for the drinks. I did not agree 539 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: to these terms. You better win then. I don't think 540 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: that's possible. According to Mr movie over here, I do file, 541 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: I do like reading the box Office Guru every week 542 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: for the last twenty years or whatever it is. So 543 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: it would be utter insult if West nails this, having 544 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: not even known how opening box offices working. I mean, 545 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: who knows? These things are inherently impossible to predict. That 546 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: would just be a big happy surprise for the Costner 547 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: move the career. If you if you got a number 548 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: like that, is it is full of hard from start 549 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: to finish. That's true. I've heard that. And you know 550 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: Costner needs this motivation? Does he need like another wing 551 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: on his Malibu house? His third Malibu house? All right, 552 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: let's move forward, roster re set time. We got two 553 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: more today we will start who do we want to 554 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: start with? You wanna go Kevin Patrock first or second? 555 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: Let's him last? All right, We'll start with the a 556 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: f C East. I wrote this one up yesterday or 557 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: over the course of the week. It will break down 558 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: the four teams. This is what we've been doing. We 559 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: kind of go over what these teams within the division 560 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: did over the off season to this point and how 561 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: the division is looking. Af C East. To me and 562 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: I welcome um anyone to jump in. Is still Patriots country, uh, 563 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: and it has been for many years now. And I 564 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: don't think I didn't see anything in the off season 565 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: to tell me that the Patriots aren't going to be 566 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: that team again. And the and the biggest thing to me, 567 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: it's obvious, but Darrell reeves this was assigning to me 568 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: that completely changes their defense potentially. I think they get 569 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: him at the perfect time, one full year after the 570 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: a C L injury. He's a great fit for Bill 571 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: Belichick's defense, much better than he was in Tampa. So 572 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: and to me, if Revis is the guy that he 573 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: was with the Jets, um, then I think that the 574 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: but the Patriots defense is much better. And as long 575 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: as Tom Brady is still Tom Brady and stays healthy. 576 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: I think this is gonna be another long season for 577 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: the Jets, Dolphins, and Bills, despite gains being made uh 578 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: by at least two of those teams. So not only 579 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: were the Patriots winning this division rather easily last year, 580 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: you believe they're the most improved team in the off 581 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: season as well. Yeah, I didn't think that the gap 582 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: is widening. I think, and I guess maybe I'm not 583 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: afraid to potentially overvalue what Revis could bring to a team. 584 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: And being a Jets fan, I saw how special he 585 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: was before he hurt his knee, and I just get 586 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: the feeling like I would not be surprised, and I 587 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: don't think anybody should be surprised if Rivas in his 588 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: age season or twenty nine season, fully healthy, he just 589 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: has an amazing year and gets exactly the setup he 590 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: wanted once he avoids that contract, and it works out 591 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: for everybody involved, including the Patriots. I think it's become 592 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: an arms race, not with the the Patriots and the 593 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: Jets anymore, but with the Patriots and the Broncos. And 594 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 1: that was the move that kept them um neck and 595 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: neck with the Broncos. Tessler do you believe the Patriots 596 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: are better after this off season. They did lose a 597 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: few people, Brandon Spikes, Garrett Blunt, a keep to Leave. Really, 598 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: Revus is the main, the main addition, and they resigned Edelman, 599 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 1: they brought in LaFell. I'm not that excited with it. 600 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: I don't think losing Spikes um is a huge issue 601 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: for them. Might be a game Jamie Collins plays more. Yeah, 602 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: and I think that revis is a an upgrade over 603 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: to Leave. I mean that's you know, to Leave had 604 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: did a nice job with them. Uh yeah, I don't know. 605 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 1: I don't struggle with that. I think the Jets, though, 606 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: did a lot to improve themselves. So that's I put 607 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: them close. Oh. By the way, the most dominant position 608 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: player in the NFL is coming back from an injury 609 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: for the Patriot, Rob Bronkowski. I thought you were going 610 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: Vince Will That's what I thought. No, I'm kidding at 611 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: this point, but that is a good point that they're improving. 612 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: They had a lot of injuries last year at key spots. Yeah. 613 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: I mean the things that you look at with this 614 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: team is, you know, two years ago they had they 615 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: were the envy of the league at tight end, and 616 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: now they seem to that might be a position at 617 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: the draft where they need to upgrade. You have Grant 618 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: coming back from not just the regular n injury, it 619 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: was a really bad It wasn't Dustin Keller knee injury, 620 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: but it was still a c L M c L 621 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: blown out and it's a guy that's had issues with 622 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: his health. He's back, but you can't it can be 623 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: fairly questioned if he's a guy that can stay on 624 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: the field for sixteen games now, and you know, with 625 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: Aaron Hernette is obviously out of the picture, they could 626 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,080 Speaker 1: use another guy to be like the move t it 627 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: and Owen Daniels was someone they pursued, but that didn't 628 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: work out. He signed with the Ravens. So they need 629 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: some depth there their linebacking crew. It's very solid of Mayo, 630 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: High Tower and Collins. Uh No no other depth on 631 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 1: the roster there. They don't have anybody with a start 632 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: behind those guys, so they're very susceptible if they get 633 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: hit with the injury bug. And then Blunt Legarrett Blunt 634 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,280 Speaker 1: was a guy that was a stud down the stretch 635 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: for them. I get why they didn't bring him back 636 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 1: because he's been kind of a elusive talent over the years. 637 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: But there, I don't know if they're gonna be looking 638 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: to add another guy in the mix with Veren and 639 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: Ridley there. I don't know, what do you guys think 640 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 1: about Shane Vreen and Stephen Ridley planning good enough? Yeah, Verene, 641 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: you know, I think their offense was they were able 642 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 1: to do things that they couldn't when Vereen came back. 643 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 1: He's a guy you can line up about why. He's 644 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 1: extremely good at catching the ball in the backfield. So, 645 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,919 Speaker 1: you know, blunt not a luxury. But I think they'll 646 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: be fine with it. They'll be fine and find a 647 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: way to move on without him. Jet Jets fans in 648 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: the media especially don't seem thrilled with their offseason, but 649 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: a dramatically upgraded two spots they absolutely need to with 650 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 1: Michael Vick and Eric were good. Think about what the 651 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 1: upgrade is too. It's Michael Vick over David Gerrard, who 652 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: has knees and theory only at this point, and then 653 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: you have Eric Decker, who maybe you could argue is 654 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 1: more a one A or a great number two. But 655 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: the upgrade from him over Santonio Holmes is Gargantlin as well, 656 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: So that was you know, for all the heat that 657 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: the glacier, the glacier John Iszik is getting. Those are 658 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 1: big signings that made the team better. Um do I do? 659 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 1: I think that's enough to to make them a neck 660 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 1: and neck team with the Patriots. I don't think they're 661 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 1: there yet, but I think if they would have gotten 662 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: the cornerback, and I think they probably should have really 663 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: thought hard or harder about bringing back Revis and then 664 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: not getting a Dominic Rogers Camardi. Um, that kind of 665 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 1: put a little stink on their offseason to me because 666 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: now they might have to use the draft again to 667 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 1: get a cornerback, which they've done three times MS in 668 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: five years. And they really should be focusing on skill 669 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,320 Speaker 1: players on offense at the top of the draft. But 670 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if they could do that anymore, because 671 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: putting d Milner as the number one cornerback on this 672 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: team is asking for disaster. There's been a lot of 673 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 1: if you watch the Jets close, there's been a lot 674 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: of talk about how Milner made a lot of progress 675 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 1: down the stretch, but that maybe was a little overblown. 676 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,280 Speaker 1: He got lucky on some plays where he got burned 677 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 1: and there was drop passes or an overthrow. Um. He 678 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: did get better as the season went along, but to 679 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 1: think that he is now on the right track, it's 680 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: too early to say. I like the idea of a 681 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: Chris and Chris backfield, Chris Johnson and Chris Ivory. The 682 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 1: Jets are in the mix at the right price. We're 683 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,359 Speaker 1: hearing they'll bring him in. We've talked about that a 684 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,359 Speaker 1: lot on this podcast. I think that helps that team 685 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: a lot. But yeah, I think they just need to 686 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 1: add playmakers. They can't settle on Decker. And even if 687 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,399 Speaker 1: they got Chris Johnson, I still think that number one 688 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 1: pick should be Um, a wide receiver. What do we 689 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:55,399 Speaker 1: think of the Hicks there made the biggest financial move 690 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 1: in this division. I guess the biggest move this entire 691 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,800 Speaker 1: off season. We haven't even mentioned it. Brandon Albert highest 692 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 1: paid player, right Albert? Yeah? I mean this is the 693 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 1: offensive line with the Dolphins was not only a week 694 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 1: week point for the team week to week, but it 695 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 1: was also a source of huge embarrassment. But now you 696 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,840 Speaker 1: bring in Brandon Albert, you put him on the left side, 697 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: you give you give Ryan Tannehill an actual replacement to 698 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 1: Jake Long, which you didn't have last year. Um, you know. 699 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 1: They still have work to do on that line, though, 700 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,760 Speaker 1: and I think that the draft is where they'll continue 701 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: to get better. Brought back Brent Grimes, brought back Starks, 702 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 1: signed Moreno as kind of a rotational guy, and I 703 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 1: think Moreno, yeah, they West, We've talked about it. Lamar 704 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 1: Miller is somebody that the Dolphins internally have never trusted, 705 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 1: it seems. And Moreno is also a guy who is 706 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,320 Speaker 1: an all around back and also a plus blocker pass protector, 707 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 1: which Ryan Tannehill sacked fifty eight times last year, and 708 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 1: that simply can't fly. If you want him to get 709 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: better and you want him to continue to progress, you 710 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,239 Speaker 1: need to get a better protection around the guy. And 711 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: Moreno is a guy that's a sneaky, big addition in 712 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 1: terms of helping handle that. Yeah, I think Miller and 713 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 1: Marino are a good combo because, uh Marino does everything 714 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,320 Speaker 1: well that Miller kind of lacks the fundamentals of the position, 715 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 1: and what Marino lacks, uh speed, Miller has in spade. 716 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: So I think they complement each other pretty well. It's 717 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 1: certainly an upgrade over Daniel Thomas, who is just tough 718 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: to watch. I think you don't have to watch him anymore. Uh, 719 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 1: he's my boy as much as Courtland Finnigan's your boy. 720 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. We don't want to even bring 721 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: up Finnegan's name anymore for fear that he might come 722 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 1: after Mark. Listen here and I are. We have made 723 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 1: our amends. I'm cool Tom. I said he's a potential 724 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 1: bounce back guy. He loves me. Everybody loves D's like. 725 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 1: I see a conflict over here, So I'm gonna jump 726 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 1: in and look really good to one of these two people, 727 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,240 Speaker 1: then walk away and get a cup off. The Raiders 728 00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: love me? Who doesn't love and Tony already doesn't like it. 729 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 1: He called me a liar on Twitter a few months back. 730 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 1: I forgot to mention that it's not all off. Yeah, 731 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 1: it's fair. The Buffalo Bills I have fourth. I mean, 732 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,840 Speaker 1: I don't think the Bills had a dreadful offseason, but 733 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 1: it was kind of a little ho hum, and for 734 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 1: a team that has been ho hum for too long now, 735 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 1: maybe it would have been nicer if they did something bigger. 736 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 1: They obviously lost uh Jari's bird. You know, they bring 737 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 1: back they add Corey Graham. He was a nice slack guy. 738 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 1: Uh with the Ravens last year. He might see some 739 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: safety looks. And they also extended Aaron Williams. So, but 740 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 1: the secondary obviously took a big hit there and the 741 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,360 Speaker 1: other I guess you know, Brandon Spikes. I thought it 742 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 1: was a good signing, good run stuff for Greg. You're 743 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 1: not as high on him. I know, West, you do 744 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 1: like him. Who doesn't like him? Oh? West, you didn't 745 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 1: like him that much, right? I like him. I just 746 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 1: think he's silly for predicting wins over the Patriots. Yeah, 747 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 1: I like. I like what they did. They took on 748 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 1: some short term gamble Spikes. I mean the biggest move, 749 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,799 Speaker 1: the biggest high acting move is Mike Williams. I like 750 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 1: that move. They give up a late round pick, they 751 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 1: don't have to pay him much money. He improves what 752 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 1: should be an interesting offense. I would argue that Buffalo, 753 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 1: and not not in terms of how many moves they made. 754 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 1: But they might be the team that can give the 755 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 1: Patriots some heat. But there's one big issue. If that 756 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 1: That quarterback position might be the one week spot. Yeah. 757 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 1: I found it very strange at the Scotty Combine I 758 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 1: would have liked um for them to go out and 759 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,319 Speaker 1: maybe go hard after Michael Vick or got somebody in 760 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 1: there that could truly push E. J. Manuel in his 761 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,360 Speaker 1: second year. Instead, Doug Well he doubled down at the 762 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,360 Speaker 1: combine and said that the team was all in not 763 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,840 Speaker 1: just on Manual, but also on that Lewis, Dennis Dixon, 764 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 1: and Jeff Toole, which is all the qbs on the roster. 765 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 1: So it doesn't sound like they're going to uh do 766 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 1: anything but put the franchise in Manuel's hands of seasons 767 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:56,840 Speaker 1: where I guess you gotta do it. He was the 768 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 1: first round pick last year, but a lot you know, 769 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,320 Speaker 1: moretions and answers in his rookie year. Mike Williams, I 770 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 1: don't know. I know that seems like on paper, I'm 771 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 1: not as thrilled about it. I kind of see it 772 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,839 Speaker 1: as something that will forget about by October and he'll 773 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 1: have four teen catches by week six. I don't see 774 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,720 Speaker 1: him as another he didn't. He had some nice games 775 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 1: with the Bucks, that's for sure. I mean, he got 776 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 1: a forty million dollar contract last year. I know he's 777 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 1: had it, but I don't know. I don't know if 778 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 1: that guy's head is on straight to actually become an 779 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,319 Speaker 1: impact player, and going home is a bit of a 780 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,239 Speaker 1: weird move too. We we do key arrivals and key 781 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 1: departures as part of our Roster Reset series NFL dot 782 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:34,239 Speaker 1: Com backslash Roster Reset. How about that? Uh? And you 783 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,399 Speaker 1: know one of the persons you could have put under 784 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 1: key departures, probably the biggest one is Mike Petton. So 785 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 1: we don't know if this defense is gonna be as 786 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 1: good as it was last year, because it looked like 787 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,320 Speaker 1: it should be one of the best most talented defenses 788 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,320 Speaker 1: in the league in two thousand fourteen. Maybe it doesn't 789 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 1: matter and they're fine with Jim Schwartz and they'll be 790 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,440 Speaker 1: a top five group because if they had Mike Petton 791 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,840 Speaker 1: and that defense, I would think this is a sneaky 792 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 1: playoff type of right. Moving on, we were going to 793 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 1: do the roster reset of the NFC South today and 794 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 1: get Kevin Patrick on the phone, but I feel like, 795 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,440 Speaker 1: you know, we're up against it on time a little bit. 796 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 1: We don't want to go too far over and he got, 797 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 1: he got, he got. Matt Damon's a little bit Kevin 798 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 1: Patrick coming at you. But we want to give him 799 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 1: his correct amount of time. So we'll talk to Kevin 800 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 1: on Monday, UM and go over the NFC South because 801 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 1: there's a lot to get to in that division. Uh. 802 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 1: I think Kevin will be okay with that, right. You 803 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 1: don't want to get on Kevin's bad You don't. Actually, 804 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 1: that's a question I want to ask Kevin next time 805 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 1: we talked to him. I feel like he's a guy 806 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 1: has been in fights before. Oh, definitely verbally at least 807 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: no physical braun. All right, let's get out of here. 808 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:44,359 Speaker 1: Chris Westling wrote an excellent think piece, a nuanced take 809 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 1: on that job, and obviously the Raiders are all in 810 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 1: on match shob. However, Chris Westling says, that's a full 811 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 1: hearty thought. Well, the inspiration for this was basically Dennis 812 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:02,720 Speaker 1: Allen come coming out and comparing Shop to Philip Rivers 813 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 1: and Peyton Manning, and then Maurice Jones Drew saying Shop 814 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 1: can take us to the Super Bowl, a quarterback who 815 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 1: has won one career playoff game against the Bengals team 816 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 1: that barely showed up, and Kurt Warner basically saying this 817 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 1: was a steal for the Raiders and that Shop is 818 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 1: still a top flight starter, and everything these people are 819 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 1: saying goes against everything Matt Shop has put on film 820 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,400 Speaker 1: since Thanksgiving to the two thousand twelve seasons. So I 821 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,439 Speaker 1: wanted to go back and see what happened to Shop. 822 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,279 Speaker 1: Is there some kind of injury? Why did he lose 823 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,440 Speaker 1: confidence in his arm? Why is he no longer throwing 824 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 1: down the field? Why is he checking down? Uh? Constantly? 825 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,719 Speaker 1: And I noticed a different quarterback after Thanksgiving to two 826 00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 1: thousand twelve, And I think that pick six string happened 827 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 1: because defense has had an offseason to study and they 828 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,239 Speaker 1: saw a guy who was doing his play actions and 829 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:59,000 Speaker 1: his roleouts and throwing to his fullback, throwing sideways to 830 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,400 Speaker 1: the sideline and stead of challenging defenses down the field, 831 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,840 Speaker 1: And almost all of his pick six is came on 832 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 1: out routes where quarterbacks were just sitting on the route 833 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 1: knowing he wasn't gonna test them. Deep, I think this 834 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 1: is a guy who's been beaten and battered and has 835 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 1: missed more games than just about any starting quarterback of 836 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:22,240 Speaker 1: his era. Uh. This frank surgery, shoulder surgeries, rib injuries, 837 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:26,400 Speaker 1: knee injuries, ankle injuries, concussions, And I think he just 838 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,440 Speaker 1: doesn't have it anymore. West really got in depth on this. 839 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 1: We have, you know, the entire injury history. You even 840 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,400 Speaker 1: get into other established starting quarterbacks in the past that 841 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,879 Speaker 1: have been benched in the aftermath after that. UM really 842 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 1: good take. So we highly suggest that you check that 843 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:47,320 Speaker 1: out on the Around the League page. West compares ah 844 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 1: Shob to a punch junk boxer who still sees opening 845 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,080 Speaker 1: but can no longer exploit the sucker for a left hook. 846 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:59,800 Speaker 1: Shell shocked signal colors ultimately suffer from that split second 847 00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 1: whe they stopped pulling the trigger on an open window. 848 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,359 Speaker 1: I mean, you're not going to read that, Society, You're 849 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 1: gonna read it well. And this, of all the things 850 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 1: that Chris has written over his time with us, like 851 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,239 Speaker 1: this is my favorite piece because the point that I 852 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 1: think you hammer home with the chart of the quarterbacks 853 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,720 Speaker 1: that once they were benched and they're in that thirties, 854 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,800 Speaker 1: something ranged the stark future for all of them, the 855 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 1: lack of success that how quickly these one time stars 856 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 1: totally vanished. This goes back twenty years and Kurt Warner 857 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,480 Speaker 1: is the only example I can find with somebody who 858 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 1: was benched after an accomplished career and went on to 859 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,480 Speaker 1: find success with another team. And I even went back 860 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 1: fifty or sixty years and couldn't find anyone else. So 861 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,879 Speaker 1: to translate that for all the Raiders fans out there 862 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 1: that might want to respond, Chris thinks shops stinks and 863 00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,600 Speaker 1: we hate your team. But you also note that the 864 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,319 Speaker 1: Raiders maybe they don't believe him in him as much 865 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,319 Speaker 1: as they say because of the contract they gave him. Yeah, 866 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:02,120 Speaker 1: I think the contract was smart, but um, it's kind 867 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,319 Speaker 1: of disingenuous to promote him as the answer and then 868 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:10,080 Speaker 1: give him that contract. And Raiders fans, I'm on your side, ogeous. 869 00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,480 Speaker 1: I've only blocked like four today so far. All right, 870 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 1: that's it, West, you have a shout out right loyal listener, 871 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:28,640 Speaker 1: Damien hit him getting married today, International Scott International listener, 872 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,319 Speaker 1: you guys have any advice for him? I can't give 873 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,239 Speaker 1: any because I don't I'm not married. This is a 874 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:38,880 Speaker 1: dangerous precedent. We're soon going to be wishing kids birthdays. Uh, 875 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:40,799 Speaker 1: you know, be a good guy, don't be a bad guy. 876 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:45,359 Speaker 1: That's my advice. Echo that. All right? Congratulations buddy, what's 877 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:49,640 Speaker 1: his name? Damian? Damien? Congratulations? All right? All right, we're 878 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,359 Speaker 1: outta here. Keep submitting your money tags. By the way, 879 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,280 Speaker 1: great ones coming in. They continue to come in hashtag 880 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 1: what is it? Gold Center tags? That makes sense, It's logical. 881 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,759 Speaker 1: Uh So we're loving that. On Monday, we'll be back. 882 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,719 Speaker 1: We're going to uh go over the NFC South with 883 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,440 Speaker 1: Kevin Patrick. We're gonna check in on the box office 884 00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 1: tally of Draft Day. Hold onto your hats. I don't 885 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,520 Speaker 1: even know how you're gonna sleep this weekend. Uh So 886 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,080 Speaker 1: that's all coming at you. But until Monday is Dan 887 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,120 Speaker 1: Hanson signing off for the Mailman, the Sizzler, the Boss, 888 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:26,920 Speaker 1: and the gold standard behind the glass. See, you do 889 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,680 Speaker 1: not take because I might want these seventeen weeks from now.