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Speaker 1: Okay, it is time for the Jerry Jones Show. Bronch

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Speaker 1: you by Ford, the official vehicle of the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Ford is the best in Texas, and a good morning, sir.

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Speaker 1: How you doing well? I'm doing great. I'm actually sitting

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Speaker 1: to the wonderful Bob McNair's memorial that of course Bob

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Speaker 1: down to Houston for his service. Well, we appreciate you

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Speaker 1: making time for us, sir, and if you need to go,

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Speaker 1: you just give us the high sign and we'll cut

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Speaker 1: on out for you. But we definitely appreciate your time,

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Speaker 1: especially you know, on a big weekend like this for

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Speaker 1: your team and then personally with you as you just shared.

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Speaker 1: But this is a big opportunity against the Eagles coming

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Speaker 1: up on Sunday. You haven't swept this team since twenty twelve, Jerry.

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Speaker 1: We're trying to figure out how confident should the Cowboys be,

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Speaker 1: how much better are they than the Eagles? And what

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Speaker 1: do we need to do here to make it five

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Speaker 1: in a row? Well, I think that we've seen our

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Speaker 1: can win this game. Now, this game strategically from every

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Speaker 1: pepoint of course, and it's nothing wrong with having this

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Speaker 1: game the next game, the most important game we'll play.

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Speaker 1: Then this is the game to have it that way.

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Speaker 1: You're playing the World champions You're playing guys with a

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Speaker 1: They could have a great story themselves, just won the

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Speaker 1: World Championship, get down and get back up and win it.

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Speaker 1: So we're going to get all that got. But it's

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Speaker 1: a great opportunity for us, and I just believe that

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Speaker 1: we'll remember how and how it felt, how we execute it,

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Speaker 1: and there's a lot of room to play better, I

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Speaker 1: I hopefully we'll see all of that. I think we've

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Speaker 1: got a good chance to. Hey, Jerry, let's go back

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Speaker 1: to draft day, the day you guys drafted Layton vander esh.

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Speaker 1: I want to hear the story on when you decided

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Speaker 1: So Jerry, he's the he's the wolf hunter. And I

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Speaker 1: He walked on, he had to. He was a surprise

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Speaker 1: Jason had ever heard in his life with sports and football,

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Speaker 1: and there's there was certainly enough to not be shocked

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Speaker 1: if he turned out to be a coach. We gotta get,

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Speaker 1: we gotta get. We got to get some playoff wins.

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Speaker 1: Jason needs a championship, and we all do our fans

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Speaker 1: do we get that done? And you're going to be

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Speaker 1: playoff fixes. So well, said Jerry, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: How sure are you, tyrants gonna play Sunday. Well, I

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Speaker 1: very good. What do you think about this Eagles linebacker

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Speaker 1: to him or anything about that? Yeah, that's the that's

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Speaker 1: if you didn't. You're talking about the world champions. They

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Speaker 1: some things that we can do too. Well. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: your time on the morning like this, safe travels, and

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Speaker 1: the best luck to you on Sunday. Hey Jerry, before

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Speaker 1: do the luie. You guys went on Sunday. I think

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Speaker 1: Hey do man, I do me a wolf? Calm with

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Speaker 1: the uhie on m. I think a wolf could get

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Speaker 1: that role riding. Do you know what? I'm gonna do

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Speaker 1: that for you. You're ready? I think you could. Now

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Speaker 1: you scattering? Hey, now that's a wolf right there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: good talking to you, Jerry. Have a safe flight all right,

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Speaker 1: May too. Thanks chat