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This is The Socks Machine Podcast with 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:57.440 your hosts Jim Margolis, James Vegan, and Josh Nelson. 0:00:58.200 --> 0:01:00.400 Hello and welcome to a new episode to The Sox 0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:04.000 Machine podcast, part of the Foul Territory Network. I'm your 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:06.959 host Josh Nelson, and in this episode, we're gonna be 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:10.959 talking about the impact of Kyle Teal's injury on the 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:15.200 Chicago White Sox. As Kyle Teal suffered a left high 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:18.039 ankle sprain in the series against the Texas Rangers. He 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:20.440 is now going to be out for the next six 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:22.840 to twelve weeks, So what is the impact on the 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:26.200 White Sox. Does this force him to make a decision 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:30.160 in finding another catcher before the trade deadline, and what 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:33.240 is the long term outlook for Kyle Teal as the 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:37.479 White Sox primary catcher. Join us first in the Sox 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:40.759 Machine Podcast. You can see him on Foul Territory Daily 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:44.240 at YouTube dot com slash foul Territory from twelve pm 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:47.760 to two pm Central Time. Former Major League catcher, It's 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:50.440 Eric Kratz, and Eric, thank you so much for join 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:51.800 the Sox Machine Podcast. 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:55.480 Yeah, just thanks for having me on. I'm excited that 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:58.240 you guys are part of the Foul Territory network, and 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:00.440 I'm excited that AJ doesn't have to be the only 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:04.200 one to talk about his beloved White Sox. 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:07.640 Especially a White Sox catcher when it comes to the 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:11.320 impact of Kyle Teal. So let's start there. Eric left 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:14.000 high ankle sprain for Kyle Teal. He's now going to 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:17.120 miss the next six to twelve weeks. What's the impact 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:18.760 on the White Sox with this injury. 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:23.280 I mean, right out of the gate, everybody knows Kyle 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:26.000 Teal has not been healthy, he's not been on the field, 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:29.440 so they've been winning without him. When I watched this 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:31.880 White Sox team, and I'll admit I don't watch it 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:34.040 as much as fans watch it. I watch your show 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:37.440 and everything, but I see this guy and I saw 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:40.639 him ever since he got traded. He got traded from 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:42.520 the Red Sox. I saw him early in his career 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:44.080 when I worked for the Red Sox for a little 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:49.440 bit and just talking about him two people or other 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:54.120 people talking about him. His numbers don't necessarily as you 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:57.679 see him on the board here, don't necessarily pop off 0:02:57.720 --> 0:03:03.639 the page. But his intensity, his like focus on baseball 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:07.760 is something that's unmatched. And when you talk about the 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:10.320 catching position, you say, okay, you need him to be 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:15.120 offensively driven, Yes, you need to be defensively driven, and 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:18.160 all those things. He needs to be selfless to be 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:21.280 there for the pitchers, and I think he added something 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:24.200 to this team that I think they were missing when 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:26.160 when he was out, when they were trying to do 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:28.400 the Edgar Carro dance, when they were trying to do 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:32.280 the Drew Romo great story, like all those things. I 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:35.200 get it, I watch them play. I just think he 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:39.480 brings something more than what offensively you're going to see 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:42.040 and even sometimes defensively you're going to see in the 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:46.160 stats that I think his intensity and his focus are 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:49.760 really encapsulating this whole team, and it sucks that he's out. 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:52.120 It really does. No, there's no other way around it. 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:55.600 And for this particular season, we were excited because he 0:03:55.680 --> 0:04:00.000 had an oppressive debut. Could he launch to another life 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:03.760 like Colson Montgomery has in his second season and now 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:08.960 Eric This is three separate lower half injuries. The pulled 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:13.600 hamstring from the World Baseball Classic, twisted his knee in rehab, 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:17.679 and now a high ankle spring. With these three separate 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:20.400 lower half injuries, are there any concerns as far as 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:23.960 longevity as Kyle Teal being a catcher. 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:28.320 Not in this sen age. No, We're not in the 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:31.440 early nineties when it's like, well, probably going to have 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:34.080 to cut his leg off. You know. It's now. We 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:37.680 have a lot of great rehab abilities. We have an 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:41.720 ability to come back from different injuries. Is it more 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:44.960 rigorous as a catcher? Yes? Is one of the tools 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:48.839 that he has speed gonna be hindered a little bit? Yeah? Maybe, 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:51.400 But I mean when he pulled his hamstring in the 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:55.040 World Baseball Classic, you saw that like he was getting 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:57.400 after it, Like it wasn't like he was just cruising 0:04:57.480 --> 0:05:00.760 through things and then he pulled something like he plays 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:04.000 hard that might need to be curtailed a little bit 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:06.920 to stay healthy. But he's also like five years old, 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:09.560 he's super young. He's gonna learn that kind of stuff. 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:12.520 And if anybody says, well, you know, lower half injury 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:17.320 when you're a catcher, this is terrible. Like example a 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:20.560 Buster Posey, Yeah, shattered his ankle. I mean if you 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:22.280 see that. I got to see the X rays of 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:25.520 his ankle. It was not good. And you go, uh oh, 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:29.400 like a lower half ankle injury that is that is 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:32.640 going to spell doom and gloom for the rest of 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:34.280 his career. And now you know we're going to be 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:36.320 voting for him for the Hall of Fame soon. So no, 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:39.520 I don't think it's going to unless he's not able 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:42.640 to curtail what is causing these injuries. 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:46.480 And with the injury, I don't know if you've got 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:48.400 a chance to watch as far as the highlight, but 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:52.600 as you know, catchers get put into really bad fielding spots, 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:55.640 especially a place at home plate and fielding those throws 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:58.920 from the outfield as Brida Montgomery's throw was more up 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:02.000 the first baseline until caught it. He's on his knees 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:05.360 and he's leaning over to try to tag the runner. 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:08.919 Is there a better technique in that particular play that 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:13.000 Kyle Teal still needs to learn to avoid hurting himself. 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:17.039 Yeah, one hundred percent, and I'm sure that he'll go 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:20.080 through it, or he has gone through it. You put yourself, 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:25.000 you practice techniques, and then when the game happens, you 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:27.520 get the freaking job done. Like it's like you practice 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:31.680 perfect blocking techniques. When it's time to block, you might 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:34.400 look like a rodeo clown, like trying to sling your 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:37.440 arm out there to block something that's probably gonna hurt. 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:40.400 Like it's one of those things that yes, he put 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:43.560 himself in a position. His injury actually is not that 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:47.479 dissimilar to what happened to Buster Posey. If you remember 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:50.440 that collision a long time ago with Cousins. I forget 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:53.680 what his first name was, but as a play at 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:55.880 the plate the ball, he was in a good spot. 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:59.719 The ball bounced and then he kind of stuck to 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:02.920 the with his knees in the ground, and that ankle 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:05.640 got rolled up under him when Cousins hit him. Then 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:08.359 his ankle stayed where it was and rolled up under him. 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:11.400 Same with Teal. That ball kind of was in an 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:16.080 awkward spot. Instead of shifting and moving his feet, staying 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:19.080 on his toes, especially his left foot. Now we're getting 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:22.320 really you know, mechanical about it. But if he stays 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:25.680 on his toes, now he's able to step back or 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:28.880 when he goes to make that move that like from 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:32.920 his right side over to his left side to extreme 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:35.920 tag because he was trying to the runner was trying 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:38.760 to avoid a tag. Now it's more of an athletic 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:42.000 move where he goes from his feet or even from 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:45.600 his toe in like a crouch's position, and he's able 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:48.760 to go down on that left knee. Instead, he was 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:52.280 already down two knees and when he goes to roll 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:55.040 that foot is basically both his feet were out like 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:57.800 this and it just gets up on it and all 0:07:57.840 --> 0:08:02.320 that weight. 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K twelve dot com slash foul. 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:54.320 Now, before Teal arrived, White Sox, as you mentioned before, 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:58.040 had Eggar Carro gave them runway that didn't work. He 0:09:58.080 --> 0:10:00.920 ended up getting demoted to Charlotte. Drew Romo is still 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:04.520 struggling at the plate. The advanced metrics do not like 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:08.679 the combination of Drew Romo and Eggar Carrow, both offensively 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:12.840 and defensively. With the trade deadline coming up and the 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:17.080 uncertainty when Kyle Teal If Kyle Teal returns to season Eric, 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:20.560 do the White Sox have to acquire another catcher before 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:21.319 the deadline. 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:25.480 I say this with all due respect to two guys 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:28.320 who are now like back up kinds of guys that 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:32.120 I was. You think one of those two guys can 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:34.760 step up and play. You look at the numbers and 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:37.800 you go, they're never really going to hit. They haven't had, 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:41.360 you know, had large enough sample size, whether in TRIPAA 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:44.840 or in the big leagues that there's some deficiencies there hitting. 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:47.640 So what are you looking for? You're looking for a 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:51.720 guy who can control the pitching staff who really needs it, 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:55.160 because your pitching staff is not Like, you're not rolling 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:59.000 out cy young winners. Maybe future side with young winners. 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:01.840 You know, I'm not saying that they can't, but you're 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:05.200 not rolling out guys that are doing it on their own. 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:07.760 You need to be able to have guys that can 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:11.640 execute game plans and defensively be back there and do 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:15.280 the things that acquire value, that give them value. And 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:18.600 I look at a guy like, who are they going 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:21.760 to trade for? Well, they're not going in for the 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:25.640 Hunter Goodman's, the Shey, Langaliers, the even We talked to 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:29.440 somebody on with fishal on first, one of our other 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:33.480 shows in the Foul Territory Network, and I said, what 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:36.400 about a Liam Hicks. A Liam Hicks would be an 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:40.520 upgrade offensively awesome, but are the White Sox willing to 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:43.320 make that big of a move. No, the White Sox 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:46.080 are willing to make a move to find somebody that 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:49.079 can give them value, I think defensively, but also gives 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:53.199 them a lot of you know, more of a veteran 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:56.240 presence behind a dish. And when that happens, fans are 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:57.920 gonna look at it and go, why do we need 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:00.600 a guy that's hitting won this or one that like 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:02.920 I get it, I played. I was that guy. Like 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:05.560 teams traded for me and they were like, why on 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:07.319 earth do we trade for this guy? He's a career 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:10.640 two ZHO nine hitter, Like he stinks. I added value 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:14.199 with the mint. I added value, veteran presidence, all that stuff, 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:16.320 and that kind of stuff helps your team win. So 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:18.920 the name when you asked me to come up with 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:24.240 somebody and AJR talking about it, Jonaheim. There's Jonaheim at 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:27.000 right now. Jonaheim is not gonna cost you very much. 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:32.720 I get it. He's not say Langeliers, He's not you 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:34.760 know whatever. You could say, well we want the best 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:36.640 catcher in the game, Well it's not gonna happen. Okay, 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:39.520 Like that's just that's pumped the brakes. But a Jonaheim 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:43.560 adds that defensive metric. He's won a World Series. He 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:47.160 adds that offense, and you know what, He's not a 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:50.160 starting guy, but he has started. So can the White 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:54.160 Sox go and get that? Because to me, Teal's not 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:57.440 back this year. I make this move saying Teal's not back. 0:12:57.600 --> 0:12:59.760 I'm not a doctor. He could come back at six 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:02.480 weeks and be one hundred percent fine, then you know 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:05.160 what you got. Then you got Kyle Teel and a 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:08.440 World Series winning catcher. Whatever you think of Jonaheim right now, 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:11.040 I know he adds value and it's gonna be more 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:15.000 value than what they're getting consistently from a Drew Romo 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:20.160 or a Edgar Carroll or the smattering of other aerickrats 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:23.320 minor league. You know, backup catchers that you're gonna get. 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:26.720 Now, my last question to Eric, as someone that's been 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:29.599 traded and been that guy, if the White Sox do 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:32.440 trade for like a Jonah Haeim or anyone to help 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:36.040 on the catching situation, because that extra layer of not 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:39.600 being very familiar with White Sox pitchers, what is that 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:42.920 transition period like when they join the new team. 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:46.040 I love that you asked that because I love talking 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:49.600 about this. It's not that tough like Everyone's like, Oh, 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:53.480 it's gonna be so tough, from front offices to fans 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:56.880 to even sometimes some other catchers, And I'm like, it's 0:13:56.920 --> 0:13:59.040 not that tough. I did it. I wish I knew 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:01.080 how many times I didn't, but I did it way 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:03.840 too many times. I got traded over to the Royals. 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:06.800 Did I catch a lot? No? I didn't, but I 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:09.320 was there, And the process is exactly the same as 0:14:09.320 --> 0:14:12.520 when I got traded over to the Yankees in twenty seventeen, 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:15.679 over to the Brewers in twenty eighteen, or the or 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:20.120 the Rays in twenty nineteen. All playoff teams, all games 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:23.720 matter when you're catching in playoff situations, and you know 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:26.480 what you do if you're a catcher, you put the 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:29.720 effort in to learn the guys. You learn the guys. 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:32.920 You know what I get traded over to. I get 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:36.000 traded over to the Rays, and the first day I'm there, 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:37.720 I show up in Yankee Stadium and I got to 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:40.960 catch Blake Snell. I watched Blake Snell. I don't know 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:44.640 jack about Blake Snell as far as like catching him 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:47.080 in a game, facing him, I do, But I'm like, 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:49.560 you know what, today I have to have a crash 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:53.880 course in catching Blake Snell and we're gonna go from there. 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:57.240 You learn it on the fly. It's not that crazy 0:14:57.360 --> 0:15:00.760 if you put the effort out there, if you go whatever, 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:03.240 you know, I'll just catch what hey, just throw me 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:06.720 what you got. Sorry, those days are gone. Like like, 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:09.920 I don't care who you are, if you're if you're 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:14.840 Noah Schultz to Shane Smith to Davis Martin, I don't 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:17.240 care where you're at. Triple A, big leagues like they 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:23.160 want to be cared about, cared for known, And if 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:25.640 you don't put that effort in as a catcher who 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:27.680 just showed up, you're not going to get the most 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:29.960 out of them. And this is a playoff team, not 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:32.240 even just playoff contending team. The White Socks are a 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:35.960 playoff team. And without that catching position, without these pictures 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:38.080 that you have, because you're not going out and getting 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:40.520 some dudes, you know, they might get Gosman. I think 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:43.280 that would be a tremendous fit if they would get Gosman. 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:45.800 But he can do is, he can do his own thing. 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:48.800 But the catching position just means you got to care 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:52.240 about the dudes on the mound and fans whoever they 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:56.760 get pump the brakes. The dudes will hit. If a 0:15:56.960 --> 0:15:59.840 backup catcher gets brought in and he gets to play 0:15:59.880 --> 0:16:02.560 on a consistent basis, they end up hitting. Even crappy 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:05.040 hitters like me end up hitting the more you play 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:08.240 because it's consistent. The value is behind the dish and 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:09.360 that's why I love you. 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:09.480 Know. 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:12.000 If they were to go get a Jonaheim type of. 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:14.360 Player, well, I appreciate your insight. 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:14.680 Eric. 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:18.160 Again, you can see Eric daily Monday through Friday on 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:21.400 YouTube dot com slash Foul Territories. They live stream from 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:24.320 twelve to two pm covering all things Major League Baseball 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:26.920 and with the White Sox being good. 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Now that timeline may have changed, James 0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:52.280 as Scott Murkin, white Sox beat reporter for MLB dot Com, 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:55.560 tweeted after having a conversation with Kyle Teal, that it 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:58.040 might be five to eight weeks. 0:17:58.600 --> 0:17:59.280 We'll see. 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:02.679 But you also wrote an excellent column about how the 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:06.760 White Sox still view Kyle Teal in the long term, 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:11.880 and I guess with three injuries in the lower half 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:15.760 this year, their view as far as Kyle Teal being 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:21.720 their future catcher long term hasn't changed, right, man. 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:24.240 I haven't talked to them a ton about it. I 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:26.920 just think it's in terms of what you've invested into 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:32.560 this prospect, what you believe and state repeatedly in kind 0:18:32.600 --> 0:18:35.800 of different specific ways that are hard to fake about 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:38.480 what you believe. The ceiling is doesn't make this sound 0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:41.000 like something you can really replicate in an easy way, 0:18:41.160 --> 0:18:42.600 like you. 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:43.920 Didn't get Kyle Teal for cheap. 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:46.480 You can certainly say they did well in the gair 0:18:46.560 --> 0:18:50.000 crochet trade, but you can't say like this is like 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:56.199 something that you easily replicate via This is not the 0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:59.119 Milwaukee Brewers finding a number four starter level of like, well, 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:00.560 we'll you do this on that deep all the time 0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:04.119 and it's repeatable our method like both Teal and Carrow 0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:07.479 Caro like obviously they took advantage of like the Angels 0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:10.199 in a desperate situation, but like and they were rental 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:12.680 trades but they were they were they were solid assets 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:14.679 that they sent to them at least in terms of 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:15.760 rentals at the time. 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:16.560 Like these were not. 0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:20.879 They haven't shown anything like they've obviously shown an ability 0:19:20.920 --> 0:19:23.680 to acquire catching and you know, get it up to 0:19:23.720 --> 0:19:27.320 the majors, like while still trending towards the top hundred, 0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:31.199 you know performance in the minors. They haven't shown they 0:19:31.200 --> 0:19:33.399 can easily get this in a way. And you know, 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:36.919 people talking about like Shae langeliars like that's something that 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:40.680 basically is going to cost like probably not the crochet trade, 0:19:40.680 --> 0:19:43.359 but you're talking like you're talking about like fixing the 0:19:43.400 --> 0:19:46.399 catching position from like your own crochet trade from the 0:19:46.440 --> 0:19:48.600 other side and giving up that level of value. Like 0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:53.240 that's when you're talking about a deadline that honors the 0:19:53.280 --> 0:19:57.399 twenty twenty six team but also doesn't compromise you for 0:19:57.440 --> 0:20:01.440 the future. This would be example of leaning towards present face. 0:20:01.480 --> 0:20:04.000 So like, I don't see how based on what they 0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:06.440 felt that this is how they've talked about this guy 0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:10.119 throughout that this is the sort of hurdle that you 0:20:10.119 --> 0:20:12.560 know makes you pivot in a big way. Is it 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:15.040 concerning Is it like this new thing that certainly needs 0:20:15.040 --> 0:20:17.480 to be managed, and like his off season training needs 0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:20.119 to be all about like finding out like why what 0:20:20.160 --> 0:20:22.159 do we can do to even help you or prevent this? 0:20:22.400 --> 0:20:24.040 As much as these all, like a lot of them 0:20:24.040 --> 0:20:29.000 seem like freak injuries, you know, on an individual basis, Yes, 0:20:29.240 --> 0:20:31.439 that's like clearly the big project of the off season 0:20:31.440 --> 0:20:34.679 for him. I have no doubt that everything we're gonna be, 0:20:34.720 --> 0:20:37.560 like talking as Kyle Teal about like next spring is 0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:39.679 going to be like, oh, what I did this offseason, 0:20:39.720 --> 0:20:41.560 you know, to try to address this, or what I 0:20:41.600 --> 0:20:43.359 did to recover from this, So now I feel like 0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:46.119 I'm not compromised, but there's any risk of like something 0:20:46.119 --> 0:20:49.680 propping up again, obviously that's going to like rule the day. 0:20:49.760 --> 0:20:52.080 But as far as like what they put in to 0:20:52.080 --> 0:20:54.560 get here, what they've talked about it all up to 0:20:54.560 --> 0:20:56.359 this point, I don't think is like a, you know, 0:20:57.119 --> 0:20:59.160 I can't stay healthy. I think we're out on this one. 0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:01.080 I would almost say. 0:21:00.920 --> 0:21:01.080 Like. 0:21:03.080 --> 0:21:06.240 Just because like he's been on the field, I would 0:21:06.320 --> 0:21:08.639 argue like probably Caro's had like a worse year for 0:21:08.680 --> 0:21:12.040 a stock than Teal has. Like sure, certainly injuries as 0:21:12.040 --> 0:21:16.520 they pile up over time, become their own issue. But 0:21:17.080 --> 0:21:19.400 like in terms of like the opening anecdote, the story 0:21:19.400 --> 0:21:22.000