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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the program that gets you

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Speaker 1: in touch with your Texans inside NRG Stadium here in

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Speaker 1: the Hunday Texans Radio Studio. It's Texans All Access. Mark

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Speaker 1: Vandermaer and John Harris with you and including, but not

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Speaker 1: limited to other things we will do on tonight's show,

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Speaker 1: More Likely to Happen AFC Statistics version, and I'll throw

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Speaker 1: in some other stuff as well. And I want to

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Speaker 1: start here Johnny speaking of statistics because I was working

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Speaker 1: on a daily brew. How are you doing, by the way, man, Okay,

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Speaker 1: how are you doing? I'm doing great. I'm doing great.

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Speaker 1: So many things happening. I'm so fired up for this season.

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Speaker 1: I said it last week with the schedule coming out,

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Speaker 1: I still feel that way. You know, there's something about

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Speaker 1: the draft, the schedule, seeing them on the field, seeing

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Speaker 1: them in the building. Let's go. It's only May seventeenth.

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Speaker 1: I gotta calm down, don't I No, You're it's okay.

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Speaker 1: I mean I am in that. I am in. The

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Speaker 1: schedule has been released. There's no ota yet. Abyss Like

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Speaker 1: I'm in that, Like like get me out. So I'm

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Speaker 1: in that, abyss. What are you gonna do after OTAs

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Speaker 1: and we get to the desert after mini camp. It's miserable.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you. It happens every year. It's not miserable,

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Speaker 1: you know what. It goes better every year. Somehow news

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Speaker 1: comes out or you just you just make it. You

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Speaker 1: just yeah, I mean, I'm not I'm not saying that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, but oh, you know zat here

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Speaker 1: the draft is going. You know, you're going five hundred

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Speaker 1: miles an hour trying to keep up with the draft. Also,

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Speaker 1: the draft is over and you're like, what now, and

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Speaker 1: then it's like, okay, schedule release. The schedule releases out.

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Speaker 1: It's like what's next. Okay, well, OTAs, where are they today? No? Tomorrow?

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Speaker 1: No after that? No a week from now? Like no,

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Speaker 1: I can't wait. So anyhow, kind of caught in that

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Speaker 1: abyss plus, Liverpool beat Southampton today, so I'm very disappointed. Wait,

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Speaker 1: why are you disappointed? Because I need Liverpool to lose

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Speaker 1: because if Liverpool lost then it would have clinched the

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Speaker 1: Premier League Championship from my guys at Man City because

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Speaker 1: they blew it the other day going to west Ham,

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Speaker 1: we're down two at half two, Noil and a half

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Speaker 1: came back tied it at two and with eighty in

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Speaker 1: the eighty fifth minute, had a PK to win it,

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Speaker 1: it would have won the Premier League. No, he missed it,

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Speaker 1: so tied, So they tied. So right now, Man City

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Speaker 1: is a point ahead of Liverpool. So basically it's this.

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Speaker 1: If man City wins on Saturday or wins on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: it's over. They win it. But if they lose, it

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Speaker 1: opens the door. Oh does Liverpool of another game this weekend? Yes?

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Speaker 1: Who do they play? They play? Uh? Who they play? Wolverton? Wolverton, Oh,

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Speaker 1: Wolverton the Wolves. Yeah, of course, of course, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: love all this stuff. Now there's no playoff, right, there's

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Speaker 1: no there's no play off all those teams. Here's here's

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Speaker 1: what makes this kind of interesting. And I don't I

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Speaker 1: guess mathematically it still can happen. So man City could

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Speaker 1: lose and Liverpool could tie, and then they would be tied.

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Speaker 1: And they played twice and they tied both times. Great games,

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Speaker 1: they tied both times. The gold differential is really close.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, this could be setting up a nineteen

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Speaker 1: seventy eight Yankees Red Sox. One game takes all dent

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Speaker 1: for the Premier League. Championship, which would be unbelievable. That

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Speaker 1: it would be fantastic, but it would be unbelievable. Now

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Speaker 1: it gets tough because Liverpool's in you WAYFA Champions League final,

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Speaker 1: so that gets kind of dicey with the timing. So

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Speaker 1: it's just hoping that Man City. It's really weird, but

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Speaker 1: we have this playoff over here in this other league

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Speaker 1: that we're in. But I sat down, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: was just watching the end of it earlier today and

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Speaker 1: I was like enthralled, Like I know the players are,

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Speaker 1: I've gotten so in the Premier League. I love it.

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Speaker 1: I love it. How did Jamie Tart do for Richmond? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Not so not so good? But hopefully they'll be back

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Speaker 1: in the Premier League soon. All right, coach Roy Kent,

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Speaker 1: all right, let's do this. Now, I'm working on this

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Speaker 1: daily brew for tomorrow. And I thought, here's how I

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Speaker 1: arrived at this. I thought, this quarterback room has to have,

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Speaker 1: if not the fewest starts collectively in Texans history for

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Speaker 1: a May group. I'm talking about ninety man roster. Now,

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Speaker 1: whoever ends up on the fifty three. Sometimes you only

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Speaker 1: have two quarterbacks on the fifty three. Right in Texans history.

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Speaker 1: This quarterback room has to have the fewest amount of

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Speaker 1: starts or right there, it's not even close. They're not

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Speaker 1: even near the bottom, all right, And you want me

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Speaker 1: to just break the headline right now, break the news

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Speaker 1: as far as who is on the bottom, because I thought, well,

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Speaker 1: year one, yeah, David Card never started the game, but

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Speaker 1: Tony Banks had a bunch of stars starts under his belt,

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Speaker 1: and even the Watson Savage year of twenty seventeen. Yet

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Speaker 1: Wheaton was around in May and he had a bucket

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Speaker 1: load of starts that's right under his belt. A lot

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Speaker 1: of metaphors there. Forgot about that. Yeah, so that one

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Speaker 1: doesn't count. Now. Opening Day, you know, the fifty three

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Speaker 1: total and watching with none and Savage started Opening day. Wow,

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Speaker 1: and we all know how that start went, yeah for

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Speaker 1: thirty minutes. Yeah, um yeah. Because Davis has got what

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Speaker 1: ten starts? Eleven eleven starts, Kyle Allen's probably got a seventeen, okay,

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Speaker 1: which is more than I thought it would be. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that number really inflated things. Jeff Driscoll nine starts, wow,

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Speaker 1: you three guy has nine plus starts. My goodness. And

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Speaker 1: then Hogan has a start. Yeah. Now that's another thing

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Speaker 1: I want to look up. Yeah, Hogan has a start.

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Speaker 1: Yeah against the Texans. Yes, I want to look up.

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Speaker 1: How many times have they had four quarterbacks and everybody

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Speaker 1: has at least one start in the month of May.

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Speaker 1: It's funny because the pr interns were digging up for

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Speaker 1: me the two thousand and seven roster, and I said,

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Speaker 1: oh no, I not, I don't need the fifty three.

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Speaker 1: I want the May roster. And Samantha gave it to

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Speaker 1: me from May seventeenth, from today in two thousand and seven,

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Speaker 1: the Texans roster. Now, the reason why I brought that

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Speaker 1: up is I knew that shab only had two starts

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Speaker 1: when they acquired him. Yea, and think about that for

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Speaker 1: a moment, zoom out on that for a moment. You

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Speaker 1: acquired a quarterback here who only had two starts of

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Speaker 1: his career, and he gave up two twos to get him.

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Speaker 1: But highly regarded and it was the right decision, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: so good deal there. Sage Rosenfels was on that team

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Speaker 1: had only two starts. Yes, the other two quarterbacks in

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Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, I guess I was here. Yes,

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Speaker 1: the mullet. Who's the mullet, Bradley van Pelt, Yes, the

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Speaker 1: mullet was here, the mullet and Boise states. Find this

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Speaker 1: Jared's Branski. I want to say, was he on that year?

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Speaker 1: I think he was? He was because I pulled it up.

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Speaker 1: I found the June one, two thousand and seven roster.

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Speaker 1: I found that. Where do you find that, our lads?

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Speaker 1: It goes back to two thousand seven? Really? Yeah, it does.

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Speaker 1: It goes back and it gives you a date. So, uh,

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Speaker 1: they have an archived date of June first, two thousand

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Speaker 1: do you remember him? Jordan Black? I do I remember

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Speaker 1: the name? I was looking at old names today, old

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Speaker 1: Texans players. Yeah. It shows him as the starting left

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Speaker 1: Ephram might have started opening day two thousand Yeah, pretty

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Speaker 1: sure you did. I didn't realize Efram came over. I

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Speaker 1: forgot Efram came over from the Jacks. M It says

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Speaker 1: he was an unrestricted free agent from the Jacks. Jordan

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Speaker 1: Black was an unrestricted free agent from Kansas City. This

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Speaker 1: is a year before Dwayne Brown would be drafted. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you're hearing what. Dwayne Brown was drafted in two thousand

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Speaker 1: and eight. Yes, you're hearing it. You're hearing it right

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Speaker 1: there with from Salam. Now here's what's notable though, So

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Speaker 1: as I'm doing this quarterback story, the reason why I

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Speaker 1: the Texans in two thousand and six had David carrd quarterback.

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Speaker 1: It didn't go well offensively, right, and they win six

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Speaker 1: did in two thousand and seven with Shob coming in,

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Speaker 1: Ron Dayan still being the leading rusher on this team,

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Speaker 1: and of course Andre Johnson still available, but he got

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Speaker 1: hurt for a clip in two thousand. So two thousand

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Speaker 1: and seven with Shop at quarterback, Shop was not Shop

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Speaker 1: didn't start every game, he did not stage Rosenfell started

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Speaker 1: a bunch of games that the offense, I mean, that

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Speaker 1: was my first year here. I remember the offense being effective.

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Speaker 1: I mean feeling like, yeah, this offense is it's got something.

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Speaker 1: This is really funny that we're two quarterbacks would have

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Speaker 1: combined four starts between them coming into the year. Yes,

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Speaker 1: they were effective higher, they were twelve better better, they

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Speaker 1: were wealth in points, and they were fourteenth in yards. Now,

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Speaker 1: what I'm about to tell you might sound surprising, but

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Speaker 1: that performance, now, you know what, do you want to

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Speaker 1: average the numbers or total them up because it's points

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Speaker 1: in yards and points are obviously more important than yards,

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Speaker 1: but yards means something. Anyway, that performance is as good

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Speaker 1: not kidding. Hold up, hold up, hold up yards and points, Johnny.

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Speaker 1: The high water mark in the O'Brien era for points

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Speaker 1: is eleventh. Okay, but that year they were fifteenth in yards.

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Speaker 1: they finished better. Then why was that was the twenty

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Speaker 1: eighteen seas all right? They were fifteenth in offensive yards

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Speaker 1: that year. Now the following year is the best O'Brien team, right,

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen they're fourteenth in yards. I mean, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: they're fourteenth in points offensively all right, fourteenth and they're

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen even though that was a really you know,

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Speaker 1: good year as far as record, and I know he

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Speaker 1: had those bad performances with Denver in Baltimore, but like

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Speaker 1: they went to the divisional round and all that. But

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Speaker 1: defensively in twenty nineteen in yards there twenty eighth and

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Speaker 1: it points their nineteenth yikes. Yeah. But the two thousand

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Speaker 1: twelfth and fourteenth, they were I mean, they really put

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Speaker 1: together a nice little offensive show with no I mean

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Speaker 1: no Arion Foster. He's two years from being in a Texan.

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Speaker 1: You had Sealin Rosenfeld's splitting time, you had Ron Dane

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Speaker 1: getting seven hundred and something yards. That's notable to me.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Foster was still large in charge at Tennessee. By large,

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Speaker 1: I mean large. He was not in the shape that

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Speaker 1: he was when he got to the NFL. He was

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Speaker 1: in great shape when he got to the NFL. I

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Speaker 1: bring that up because they're not. I wouldn't call it

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Speaker 1: a similar situation right now, but there are things you

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Speaker 1: can glean from that in that. All right, this is

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Speaker 1: a different system than you were running last year. But

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Speaker 1: I think this system will be a smoother system to

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Speaker 1: run for the line and for Mills to audible off

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Speaker 1: of or whatever he has to do at the line

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Speaker 1: of scrimmage as opposed to what they were running last year.

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Speaker 1: I think a couple of things. Okay, Number one, I

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Speaker 1: think you're dead on. I think you're absolutely dead on

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Speaker 1: with that. Number two, I think the the biggest thing

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Speaker 1: that happened to the Texans offense, especially over last year,

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Speaker 1: but in twenty twenty and before that, was the inconsistent

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Speaker 1: availability of Will Fuller, Because when Will Fuller was in

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Speaker 1: the lineup, if you projected out those numbers versus when

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Speaker 1: pushes tightus out of even more. No, by the way,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna exercise the fifth year option on Titus Howard.

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Speaker 1: That sequence of events I think locks in at least

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Speaker 1: four of the five on your offensive line. With Laramie

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Speaker 1: next to Kenyan Green, next to Justin britt right guard.

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Speaker 1: You think it's aj Cam, but I know Max Sharping

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Speaker 1: had a better finish to twenty twenty one than people think.

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Speaker 1: And then you've got Tightus Howard right tackle. That offensive

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Speaker 1: line is not what you played with last year, not

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Speaker 1: even closer. What does that improvement do? Bringing in a

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Speaker 1: rookie and Damian Pierce with the guys you already had

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Speaker 1: in the backfield? How does that improve? Can you go

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Speaker 1: from a high water mark of four forty something to

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Speaker 1: eight hundred yards for your leading rusher? I would hope.

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Speaker 1: So if you make that, if you make that leap,

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Speaker 1: that's gonna get you to eighteenth nineteenth overall, and that's

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Speaker 1: gonna put you in a lot of games that you

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Speaker 1: maybe weren't in last year. And the guys you talked

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Speaker 1: about you have some depth behind there. Yeah, this is

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Speaker 1: really going to help the situation. If you look at

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Speaker 1: the starters, say that was that five started behind them?

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Speaker 1: Charlie hack has fifteen starts. I think Justin mccreus started

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Speaker 1: for a number of years. Jimmy Morrissey started four times

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Speaker 1: last year. Max Sharping has started for three years. Scott

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Speaker 1: Quozenberry has started for the Chargers. Said the way he

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Speaker 1: is behind him at tackle is behind Hackett Tounsil at

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Speaker 1: tackle he started for a while before a first round pick. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you have starters and you have some depth, which should

448
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Speaker 1: you know, it's nice to have depth, but you really

449
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Speaker 1: hope you don't have to get into it. Last year

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Speaker 1: we did and that was unfortunate. Hopefully this year we

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Speaker 1: don't have to tap into that depth. But at least

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Speaker 1: you have it there if you need it. Man, we

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Speaker 1: talk about Mills all the time for good reason. He's

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Speaker 1: a quarterback and he gets a lot of ink. But

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Speaker 1: the group of men that you discussed, I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: that's where it's all going to happen, right. Can they

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Speaker 1: move that line of scrimmage? Can they get a running

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Speaker 1: game going? Can that help Davis? Obviously it's gonna help

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Speaker 1: Davis to do what he did, and not that he

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Speaker 1: set the world on fire, but he put up some

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Speaker 1: positive numbers without the benefit of a running game most

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Speaker 1: of the time. The Charger game was the exception. They

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Speaker 1: ran in a bit against Jacksonville on the road, but

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Speaker 1: that was not exactly easy pickins either. That was a

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Speaker 1: struggle to get yards on the ground against the jack

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Speaker 1: That was two yards in a cloud of dust. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you know what they got in that game, a

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Speaker 1: little bit of forward progress, a little bit, and Mills

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Speaker 1: made some throws and they got the takeaways, and they

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Speaker 1: made the difference in North Florida. All right, coming out,

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Speaker 1: It's more likely to happen. AFC South Edition, except for

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Speaker 1: one coach's corner part of it. Just stay with me,

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Speaker 1: stay with us. It's Texans Radio. Mark Vandermeren, John Harris

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Speaker 1: with you, Texans All Access. Great to have you listening

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Speaker 1: as we keep you company on the ride home or

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Speaker 1: wherever you happen to be going. Right now, are you

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Speaker 1: ready for? More likely to happen, Johnny, let's go. Let's

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Speaker 1: more likely to happen. More likely to happen, AFC South Edition,

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Speaker 1: at least the first few questions more likely to have

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Speaker 1: the most sacks in the AFC South Out of the

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Speaker 1: following names, Josh Allen, the pass rushing Josh Allen for Jacksonville,

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Speaker 1: Harold Landry for the Tennessee Titans, and al Quity Mohammed

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Speaker 1: for the Colts, the Texan entry would be Jonathan Grennard. Now,

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Speaker 1: the guy who had the most out of that group

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Speaker 1: care to guests last year. Yeah, Grenard Well Landry would

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Speaker 1: be my answer, and he's the forgotten man. In this state,

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Speaker 1: and he got a big contract to go back to Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: I was kind of hoping with free agency. Okay, maybe

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Speaker 1: they're not gonna franchise him, maybe they're not gonna bring

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Speaker 1: him back. I would like to see Harold Landry somewhere else.

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Speaker 1: Now teams are gonna focus probably a little bit more,

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Speaker 1: but you can only do so much there because they

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Speaker 1: got Bud Dupris on the other side. But Landry is

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Speaker 1: a natural pass rusher. He's been that way since Boston

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Speaker 1: College him while to get his feet under him with

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Speaker 1: the Titans. I I think it's him now. I am

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Speaker 1: interested that you went al Kadin Mohammed instead of Yannick Ngakway. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Annapolis Colts, Yeah, because I might have been they might

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Speaker 1: have been swayed to go with Yannick and Goackway because

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Speaker 1: you know how I feel about in Goackway. I think

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Speaker 1: in Gockway could change the game from the edge as

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Speaker 1: a pass rusher. If the game turns into a mash fest,

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Speaker 1: he's checked out, you can forget it. He's checked out.

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Speaker 1: That's that's not happened. He didn't want to play the

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Speaker 1: run all day the forest to go rush the forrest

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Speaker 1: Buckner had seven sacks last year, Mohammed had six, five

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Speaker 1: and a half Quitty pay had four. If you can

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Speaker 1: pick one player from the AFC South to go play

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Speaker 1: in some other division, one of them has already gone,

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Speaker 1: thank god A J. Brown, so thank you Eagles, thank

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Speaker 1: you Harry Roseman. But if you could have one AFC

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Speaker 1: South player go play and some of them pick a quarterback, no,

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Speaker 1: all right, non quarterback, Derrick Henry. What quarterback you're picking?

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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, Ryan, Tannehill, Trevor Lawrence. I think Matt Ryan

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Speaker 1: out of Indie would be good. I do, because what's

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Speaker 1: their option? Then? If they will, it'll be Baker Mayfield,

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Gee. Oh, I don't want to see that. I

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Speaker 1: think I'd rather see Matt Ryan than Jimmy Kill. Then

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Speaker 1: go No, I mean you can pick a quarterback if

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Speaker 1: you want. I think I'll go with Derrick Henry. Just

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Speaker 1: let's let it happen and see what they can do

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Speaker 1: without forever forever, not just like, well he'll come back

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Speaker 1: for the playoffs sort of thing. I like the segment

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Speaker 1: banished the player, but we're not doing I'm doing more

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Speaker 1: likely to half. Okay, I would pick the Force Buckner

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Speaker 1: because I think he's a monster, more likely to happen,

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Speaker 1: more likely to have the most receiving yards in the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two season. Out of this group, Brandon Cooks,

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Speaker 1: Michael Pittman, Nick Westbrook, A Keene or Christian kirk Kirk

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Speaker 1: plays for the Jaguars just acquired. I ticked Tim. There

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Speaker 1: were other entry possibilities. Now, Marvin Jones could be a

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Speaker 1: thousand yard guy very easily. He very well could. I

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Speaker 1: think he is totally completely underrated. I would have liked

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Speaker 1: Marvin Jones here. I think he would have been a

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Speaker 1: perfect compliment to Brandy Cooks. I'm gonna go Cooks, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm going Cooks in this one, and it's Cook's Pittman

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Speaker 1: to me, Westbrook, Keena Okay. But Robert Woods is also there,

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Speaker 1: and I think Robert's gonna take some of that. I think.

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Speaker 1: I think it's really not even gonna be a one

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Speaker 1: to three in Tennessee. I think it's gonna be more

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Speaker 1: like a one, A one B three kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: And keeping on the rookie, Kyle Phillips is the slot there.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna be really really good. But I think a

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Speaker 1: kena out and Kirk. I think Kirk's gonna be like

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Speaker 1: eight hundred nine yards. He might catch like eighty passes,

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Speaker 1: but he's gonna average like nine and a half yards

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Speaker 1: to carry or a catch. So that takes me to

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Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks and Michael Pittman. Apparently Alec Pierce said his

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Speaker 1: rookie mini camp, which I'm not surprised went off and

550
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: had a great rookie mini camp. But I know that

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Speaker 1: just watching their building the Texans version, I think it's

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Speaker 1: called with the First Pick. Yeah, they loved Alec Pierce.

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Speaker 1: I mean they loved him. Now the hope is that

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Speaker 1: Gilanni Woods gets some of that. Now Pierce will take

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Speaker 1: some of that, so Pittman won't get all of that.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going Brandon Cooks a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: process of elimination. But then again, Davis millstoning to Brandon Cooks, Look,

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Speaker 1: Brandon missed what he missed half against Tennessee. He missed

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Speaker 1: another game for COVID, So it was a yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: that's the game he missed for COVID, And then he

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Speaker 1: missed half of the Tennessee game, And I want to

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Speaker 1: say he missed a little bit of another so it

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Speaker 1: maybe like a game and a half, two games, he

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Speaker 1: still had eleven hundred twelve on the yards. So I

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Speaker 1: don't think Pittman's gettingto that. I think Cooks can get

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Speaker 1: right back in the group I mentioned, Pittman and Cooks

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Speaker 1: are the only ones to get over a thousand yards

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. Yeah, I think Pittman. I think

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Speaker 1: there is Pittman's are taken away from a little bit

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Speaker 1: because Alec Pierson, Gilann Woods, the two rookies. I do

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Speaker 1: think John Metchi will get some of that. But you

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Speaker 1: just have no idea what Metsi's gonna be. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: can't predict that, and I just don't know. So I'm

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Speaker 1: going Andy Cooks now one, okay, more likely to happen,

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Speaker 1: more likely to have a higher number the Titan win

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Speaker 1: total or the Jaguar loss total, which will be the

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Speaker 1: greater number Jaguar's losses or Titans wins. So I'm going

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Speaker 1: with Jaguars losses. And here's why we did last night.

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Speaker 1: We did last night. We did Titans game by game.

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Speaker 1: I think it was we came up with nine and eight.

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Speaker 1: Even if a game beyond that it's ten and seven.

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Speaker 1: I think the Jags are six and eleven okay, which

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Speaker 1: would be a big improvement. It would be a big improvement,

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Speaker 1: and I think it'll take some baby steps. But you

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Speaker 1: still there are still holes on that Jaguars roster. I

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Speaker 1: mean we talked about the receivers. They're good, they made

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Speaker 1: some editions. There don't anything that you you know, write

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Speaker 1: home about. Running game could be good if Etienna is back.

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Speaker 1: If Etienna is back, they can kind of want to

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Speaker 1: that thing with James Robinson. That could be tough. But

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Speaker 1: I don't think the offensive line is great. I think

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Speaker 1: that the Jets. The line is okay, linebackers will be young.

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Speaker 1: Then the secondary did add a couple of They added

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Speaker 1: Darius Williams to Shaquille Griffin, so they should be better,

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Speaker 1: but their safeties are still Andrew wing Guard and ray

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Speaker 1: Shawn Jenkins. I still think the secondary needs some work.

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Speaker 1: So I think the Jags are not quite there. And

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Speaker 1: I know they play excuse me, I know they play

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Speaker 1: a last play schedule, but that means they're playing the Jets,

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Speaker 1: and the Jets are improved. The Jets are you know,

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Speaker 1: much improved, and they're playing the Baltimore Ravens as their

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Speaker 1: last play schedule, so they get those two teams Ravens.

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Speaker 1: That's toughly. Oh no, no no, I'm sorry. How did how

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Speaker 1: did the North go last year? When Bengals? When Bengals

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Speaker 1: have it right here? Bigger when Bengals Steelers, Browns, because

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Speaker 1: we're playing the Browns, it is the Ravens. So they

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Speaker 1: gotta play the Ravens. They gonna playab the best team

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Speaker 1: in that divisions, same record as the Browns. And I

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Speaker 1: always bring up the Ravens as a watch out for

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Speaker 1: this team because they played a lot of close games lost,

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Speaker 1: and you feel like with Lamar Jackson, they're gonna get

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Speaker 1: over the hump a couple of those and a couple

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Speaker 1: of those would have been, Hey, we win ten games

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's a completely different situation. They

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Speaker 1: get to the postseason. The Steelers went to the playoffs

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Speaker 1: at nine seven and one. Remember that, boys and girls,

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Speaker 1: all right, Johnny, one more here, we're gonna get out

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Speaker 1: of the division, more likely to happen, more likely to

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Speaker 1: get fired. First, boy, Matt Rule or Cliff Kingsbury or

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Speaker 1: name your coach here, I'll give you a blank slate. Okay,

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Speaker 1: of those two, I feel like it's Rule, and I

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Speaker 1: feel like it's Rule because he didn't recently sign an extension.

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Speaker 1: Well because of temper the owner. I I just think

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Speaker 1: he gets impatient. I think he is very much in control.

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Speaker 1: He is very hands on. And the thing is is,

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Speaker 1: when he gave Matt Rule a seven year contract, I

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Speaker 1: remember saying, Okay, well he Tepper definitely understands the situation.

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Speaker 1: But then you look at it and go he doesn't

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Speaker 1: seem to understand the situation that Carolina is not that

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Speaker 1: great and they can't get a quarterback. And the trade

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Speaker 1: that Carolina maid was for Sam Donald is like, man,

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Speaker 1: could they have done better? Maybe they don't make that

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Speaker 1: trade for Sam Donald. Maybe they're in position to either

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Speaker 1: a I don't know, they weren't gonna draft a quarterback

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Speaker 1: this year, but being positioned to maybe have more trade

636
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: assets to go get to Seawan, maybe they could have

637
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: done that. I don't know. But now they're stuck in

638
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: this kind of purgatory. And now if Donald doesn't work out,

639
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: are they gonna fire on Matt Corral as a rookie

640
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: in the third round? Like what are they gonna do?

641
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Speaker 1: And I don't like any of the options for them.

642
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: I don't like any of the the options for Carolina at

643
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Speaker 1: this point. I think they have some talent. I don't

644
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: think that talent's gotten much better. I don't think Rule

645
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: has done much with what they've had. He was stuck

646
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: with Teddy Bridgewater the first year, then it was Darnold.

647
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Speaker 1: I just think it's I think it's Rule. I think

648
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 1: Cliff's got enough talent to keep winning games, and Bidwell

649
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: has been very, I honestly resistant to change. I mean

650
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: he's had Steve Kim there forever, and so with coaches

651
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Speaker 1: he changed a little bit. He had that one year

652
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Speaker 1: deal with Steve Wills. Does he keep clime if he

653
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Speaker 1: gets rid of Kingsbury. I don't know if he can

654
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Speaker 1: do that. I think if I'm Bidwell at that point,

655
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Speaker 1: if it starts to blow up, I maybe just blow

656
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Speaker 1: that thing up. I figure out what the deal is

657
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: with Kyler, I try and get that thing fixed, and

658
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Speaker 1: if I can, I don't know. I mean, I just

659
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Speaker 1: I don't even know if I'd want to deal with Kyler,

660
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 1: to be honest, but I think it's gonna be Rule

661
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 1: before Kingsbury. I think I think Arizona will win enough

662
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: games to start the season, then they get hot, back

663
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: in Week seven or Game seven and then they can

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Speaker 1: rock from there. But I know that's not going to

665
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: be an easy schedule for them this year. I mean

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00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: it's just any I mean six games against mc West.

667
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: I mean that then and of itself is going to

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Speaker 1: be off. But what do they play to start the

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Speaker 1: year without without hops? So they play six games? About

670
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: hotwok boy? Oh god? How about this for the Carlos

671
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: starting the year Kansas City at home at Vegas, Rams

672
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Speaker 1: at home in week three at Carolina Philly at home

673
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Speaker 1: at Seattle. Now Seattle ain't gonna be quite that, but

674
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Speaker 1: you're starting with Chiefs, Raiders, Rams, those three alone, and

675
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Speaker 1: if they go over in those three, oh my goodness,

676
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: that the Phoenix fans are gonna be upset. But you

677
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: know everybody gets upset. In Week four they played play

678
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Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers. Maybe that's a win. And stay in your

679
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 1: job for a coach game, all right, I'll give you

680
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: one more after the break. You can chew on this

681
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: during the break. Which is more likely to be the

682
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Speaker 1: quarterback other than the first round draft choice Kitty Pickett

683
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Speaker 1: to play the earliest because of ability, not injury. I

684
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: was just drafted all right. I worded that so well.

685
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: It was just beautiful English. What words Smith work by me.

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Speaker 1: It's Texans All Access, all right. Final segment here on

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Speaker 1: Texans All Access, Mark Vandermayer, John Harris with you all right, Johnny, So,

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Speaker 1: which quarterback that was drafted this year other than Kenny

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Speaker 1: Pickett is going to play the earliest because of ability

690
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: or lack thereof from the would be starter, you know,

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00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: from the incumbent where he is very very easy. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you're ready? Okay, this is Desmond Corrals. I mean Matt Ritter.

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Speaker 1: Oh oh, I see quarterback that starts is coming from

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Speaker 1: the NFC South. I get it's either Desmont Ritter or

695
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 1: Matt Correll. And if I had to go bet at

696
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 1: bet and Ritter, really Ritter or ahead of Corral. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm just talking about Carolinas. I know neither one of

698
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 1: us very good for a quarterback, so I could see

699
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: them firing on Corral before Donald. I think Matt Scott

700
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit longer to go to be that starter.

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00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: I think Desmond could be the starter right away. I

702
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: do think that Kroll's got more up side, but I

703
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 1: think Ritter might be ready to go right now. Plus

704
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: it's Marcus Mariota. I mean, Marcus had started for what

705
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: two three years? Yeah, when's the last time? What's the eighteen? No?

706
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 1: When did? When did Tannie? I'll take over? Tannell took

707
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: over nineteen, it's been a while, it's been a while.

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00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 1: It's been it's nineteen. So I think at that point,

709
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Speaker 1: if Arthur Smith's thinking, yeah, we're gonna do with Marion, No,

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Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think Arthur Smith is thinking

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00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: that way. I think Arthur Smith is thinking, Mariota, you're

712
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: gonna start when it doesn't go well? When? Not? If? When,

713
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Speaker 1: then we're gonna be ready to fire Desmond Ritter. What

714
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: a better would be the guy? All right? What about

715
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: the future? Tom Brady Bailey Zappy in New England? No way,

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00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: huh No? Max? Now that offensive coaching staff? Yeah, who

717
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: is who's that? Who is the offensive coaching staff in

718
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: New England? I have no idea. Yeah, nobody knows and

719
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: nobody has any clue what I mean. Joe Judge is

720
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: working with the quarterbacks, manatricians, working with the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I get it that if you can coach

722
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: and coach like I understand it. But that's a whole

723
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 1: different animal man. His offense in the NFL kind of complex,

724
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Speaker 1: especially in New England with what they run there. And

725
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: I'm sure Mac Jones year two is going to have

726
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: a better feel for it. And he did have some

727
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: really good moments in year one, but down the stretch

728
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 1: it wasn't as good as they wanted it to be.

729
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: They made the postseason. I gotta give him a ton

730
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Speaker 1: of credit for making the postseason. Yeah, I mean, listen,

731
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Speaker 1: that team last year, I thought, Okay, they're not this, Okay,

732
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Speaker 1: Mac Jones, whatever, Mac did a good job. Everythink Mac

733
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Speaker 1: in his second year. I think Mac will take those

734
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Speaker 1: strides that everybody wants to see from Fields and Lawrence

735
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Speaker 1: and from Wilson. They'll see it from Mac. I think

736
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Speaker 1: you'll see it from Davis. I think those other quarterbacks

737
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: will make some strides too. But I think those other

738
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks are hamstrung by a number of things. I mean,

739
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 1: I think Drevor Lawrence still doesn't have that surrounding crew

740
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 1: justin Fields definitely doesn't have it. He's got Darnell Mooney,

741
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:55,280
Speaker 1: and Darnell Mooney that's it, and he's good. And Zach Wilson.

742
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:59,439
Speaker 1: It's the Jets. You just it's you go around going, Okay,

743
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: they had a little successful it's the Jets. It'll don't worry,

744
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: it'll come back the earth. That Jets team I think

745
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,280
Speaker 1: could be really good, but you know, at some point

746
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: do some unlucky thing happened to them? That just seems

747
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: to happen every years. Anyways, I think Desmond Ritter down

748
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,919
Speaker 1: in Atlantic could be could be really interesting for that team,

749
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 1: really interesting for that team. Let me give you the bonus.

750
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 1: More likely to happen, more likely to have a better season,

751
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 1: the Vikings or the Dolphins. The Dolphins with all that

752
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: talent acquisition, new staff, Vikings, new staff, Kevin O'Connell, Kirk

753
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 1: Cousins still there, he's been there. I like O'Connell. I

754
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 1: think O'Connell a lot. I don't trust kirk Cousins at all,

755
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: but I don't know that two has given us anything

756
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 1: other than some viral videos that you go, oh yeah,

757
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 1: I think you can win with Cousins if you have

758
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: everything else. He's one of those everything else guys. He's

759
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: at least Ryan Tannehill. I think I think the talent's

760
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: better down in Miami overall. Oh yeah, I would say

761
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,439
Speaker 1: it is well though Jefferson, I mean Jefferson, Dalvin Cook,

762
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: I mean looks their health saying, and Kirk Cousins has

763
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: won a lot of football games. But Kirk Cousins has

764
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: a definite ceiling. I don't know if we know what

765
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: to his ceiling is. We just gotta get him out

766
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 1: of the valley first, like, get him out of the

767
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: valley to see what he can do. So maybe the

768
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: addition of Tyreek and Jalen and Waddle coming back and

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Speaker 1: get Sicky. I mean, I'm telling you that's a that's

770
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: a three headed monster. That's rough man. That's gonna be

771
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: rough covering those three my goodness. Which, by the way,

772
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Speaker 1: it got me thinking this is kind of my brains

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Speaker 1: working today. Kisiki reminds me from a passing game like Kelsey,

774
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Speaker 1: because I was thinking about Kisiki, would you cover Kissicki

775
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,479
Speaker 1: with Derek Stingley Junior? And then I thought, oh wait,

776
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: they Tyree, would you cover Kelsey? Would you cover Kelsey

777
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: with Derek Stingley Junior? Because I thought backt at one

778
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 1: time that we've really held Kelsey in check? Remember twenty

779
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: sixteen who covered him a joy? Yeah, boy a did

780
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: so would you put a guy like your best corner

781
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: at the time, you still have Jonathan Joseph and Kareem

782
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: Jackson on the team. I don't know he got paid

783
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: like it the next year he got paid like when

784
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: they went man and man and they put him on

785
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 1: on Kelsey. I was interested. The best thing about boy,

786
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Speaker 1: well not the best thing, but a good boy. A

787
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: story is training camp when he was covering DeAndre Hopkins

788
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: did a good job and you could see in training camp. Yeah,

789
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: burst of improvement from him. And I'm eager to see

790
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,479
Speaker 1: who shows it for this team. You know, who has

791
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 1: that year wander year two that wasn't even a year

792
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: one to year two situations for him? But buddy, who

793
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: has that leap in improvement? And if you could get

794
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: it from multiple guys, that'd be awesome. I'll give you

795
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Speaker 1: a guy. I'll give you a candidate who number ninety,

796
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: Ross Blacklock, Ross Blacklock year three. The switch gets flipped. Oh,

797
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: I like this, that would be that would be awesome.

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00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: I mean that defensive line. I mean I wrote about

799
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Speaker 1: the defensive line. There's seventeen dudes on the defensive line

800
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: right now, seventeen. I wonder who's coaching the team. Listen,

801
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: this is important. We have to get turned overs. I

802
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: need seventeen players to you know, sift through and find

803
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: out in my top eight nine are to get on

804
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 1: that fifty three. Ross turns that corner. Ross turns that

805
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: corner that makes that defensive line that much more diverse.

806
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 1: And and oh, it's gonna be ridiculous. That's the guy.

807
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: That'll be great. That's the guy. All right, that's gonna

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Speaker 1: do it. For the show tonight, what do you have

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Speaker 1: on the tomorrow program? In the lab a piece of

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00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: that we guys talk about. Yeah, in the lab will

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Speaker 1: have that, and we also will have a where are

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Speaker 1: they now with one of our favorite former Texans Captain

813
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 1: America himself, Brian Peters, who once kicked off at Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: Oh he did, he did it? Justin Reid isn't the

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Speaker 1: only guy to have done it? All right, that's it

816
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Speaker 1: for the program tonight. Thank you very much for listening.

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Speaker 1: To go to the Texans app for all the information, articles, photos,

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Speaker 1: Texans dot com. Ticket information right there, have a great

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Speaker 1: night everyone, and go Texans.