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Speaker 1: Sure, it's.

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Speaker 2: Lollo. Welcome to the Naughty but Nice Sham'm your host,

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Speaker 2: Rob Shootle. And it's Monday, which means our dear friend,

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Speaker 2: Garrett Vogel joins us, Hey, Garrett, are you there. Happy

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Speaker 2: Mother's Day?

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Speaker 1: Are you hi? Bobby? Happy Mother's Day to you.

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Speaker 3: Even though you and I both not mothers, but we

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Speaker 3: do have mothers and loved one to our mother. So

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Speaker 3: if you're listening and you are a mother, Happy day,

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Speaker 3: late Mother's Day.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's not Mother's Day in Britain. It's really strange.

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Speaker 2: Father's Day falls on the same day in America and

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Speaker 2: the UK. And so my mommy now is very, very

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Speaker 2: lucky because she gets two Mother's Day. So I called

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Speaker 2: which is a fun thing to be. So Happy Mother's

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Speaker 2: Day to all you fabulous mothers. Okay, let's jump into

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Speaker 2: the show. What time is it, my friends? It is

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Speaker 2: tea time. Oh my goodness today. So Prince Harry was

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Speaker 2: left in tears after King Charles bestowed in honor on

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Speaker 2: He was very emotional after he learned that King Charles

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Speaker 2: had bestows a prestigious military honor on his brother. He

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Speaker 2: during his time in Afghanistan. We forget a lot of

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Speaker 2: people forget that Harry was a working royal that went

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Speaker 2: the royal family, lords and ladies, they get these fancy

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Speaker 2: because the royal family normal normal life, so it should

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Speaker 3: Correct? But but again, like how do you say no

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Speaker 2: It's a complicated one because the ultimate title is king,

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Speaker 2: and he's given that not because he passed a test,

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Speaker 2: It's a really antiquated system. And I don't want to

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Speaker 2: because this dynamic here is so complicated. It's not just

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Speaker 2: And say, if you don't want to be part of

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Speaker 2: So this is of all the things that has happened,

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Speaker 3: So I was thinking about this over the weekend too.

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Speaker 3: So if you pick a side, like you said, you

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Speaker 2: It's as dramatic as that. But I think the country

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Speaker 2: So to be a Harry fan, to be a Harry

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Speaker 2: I get it. You're walking into the Luckons dead with

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Speaker 2: the family. Say stay with them, and you're not stuck

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Speaker 2: we've all seen this, We dig in our heels and

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Speaker 2: as long as both sides are gonna not give an inch,

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Speaker 3: You know what, Let's break it down for everyone that

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Speaker 3: isn't on the royal spectrum. It's the equivalent of when

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Speaker 2: I'm hungry. I'm hungry now. I didn't need And it's

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Speaker 2: also too who turns down a free room in London.

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Speaker 2: I'm going back to London in a couple of weeks

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Speaker 2: i'd like in London. Like, it's really really expensive now, Harry. No,

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Speaker 2: In fact, one of the reasons I'm going over is

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Speaker 2: to it. But once again, if I had to go

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Speaker 2: our whole question of the day. Harry was in tears

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Speaker 2: after King Charles. His dad bestowed literally honor on his

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Speaker 2: brother William, not him, but on his brother William. Our

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Speaker 2: Naughty's we are grown ups here. Is this his own

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Speaker 2: fault for writing the book? If you talk to anybody

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Speaker 2: there's there's no way back after this book. After Harry

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Speaker 2: Is this his own fault? Go vote on our Twitter page.

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Speaker 2: be fixed until Harry talks about this book. This book

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Speaker 2: has rocked that family. They don't trust him, they don't

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Speaker 2: want him around anymore. They're angry with him. He's got

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Speaker 2: to talk about this book. Okay, moving gone, what's going

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Speaker 3: So Liam McSweeney's lawyers, they're kind of questioning Bravo's, you know,

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Speaker 2: I just think that you can read a cherry pick.

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Speaker 2: with your lives. We've done this. Lea's not going to

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Speaker 2: save Andy. I know Andy has enormous power over Bravo.

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Speaker 3: But don't you feel like if something of magnitude did

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Speaker 2: thirty friends, Garrett fell, Hey, Garrett, let's get to the polls.

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Speaker 2: That last year we talked about King Charles's really really shady.

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Speaker 2: Charles should have said you pick, you pick. They would

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Speaker 3: But you why are they measuring who has the bigger sword?

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Speaker 3: You know what, who has the bigger sword in this family?

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Speaker 2: That would be the king. Okay, don't forget to vote,

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Speaker 2: diem a favorite part of the shallow and nicest of

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Speaker 3: But Oprah is apologizing for you know, making diet culture,

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Speaker 3: So, I mean, I guess the I'm sorry is is

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Speaker 3: It's always good to hear I'm sorry, But twenty five years.

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Speaker 2: It's way too long. Yeah, it's way too long. I

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Speaker 1: She's going to do a.

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Speaker 2: Lot more to make this right. Okay, And now I

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Speaker 2: noticed the day naughty, naughty, naughty Megan McKay and said

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Speaker 1: So I don't want me too. You know what, I've

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm never going to return to the moon, Garrett.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to be an astronaut anymore. They never

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Speaker 2: Now you've made a living of trashing these ladies. In fact,

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Speaker 2: It's time to move on the.

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Speaker 1: United States.

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Speaker 3: Do it.

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Speaker 2: Let's end with a moment of rob You get a Robbie,

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Speaker 2: a rob but really short one. Today. Make kindness the norm,

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Speaker 2: make it your go to place to be, make it automatic.

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Speaker 2: Don't try to be kind, make sure you are kind.

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Speaker 2: I try it so hard to make it my norm.

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Speaker 2: I want it to be my default setting. When something

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Speaker 2: I get a kindness. And I've actually it's actually worked, Garrett.

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Speaker 2: It took me a long time to figure this out,

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Speaker 2: a good habit. Hey, that's it for today. Thank you

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Speaker 2: remember all together now, if you're going to be naughty,

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