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Speaker 1: Oh, one time, Steve Plaster, Touch do Touch, Done to text,

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Speaker 1: Toto time. Welcome to One Coach They welcome to One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Lives team task along with John Murphy. We're a mess.

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Speaker 1: That's slogan. Later in the show, we've got rookie running

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Speaker 1: back bullet Keith Ford, and we just got through with

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Speaker 1: an interview with him. We're gonna show to you somewhere

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Speaker 1: and as a result of the player's hectic schedule on

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Speaker 1: a Tuesday when they're off and all these guys are

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Speaker 1: kind of helter skelter, we fit his interview in so

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Speaker 1: we didn't make him wait around for three hours. I

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Speaker 1: stand today, why don't you? I don't like how tall

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Speaker 1: a little bit hectic getting back into her into the

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Speaker 1: pilot and copilot seat here this morning. We're gonna be

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Speaker 1: all right, though, we are gonna be all right. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a good show. I can feel it. I

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Speaker 1: can feel it. We're at our best when the pressure

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Speaker 1: we got some good stuff coming up. Though it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be fun because not only is Keith Ford coming on,

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Speaker 1: We've also got somebody else coming on, and somebody else

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Speaker 1: coming on. All right, we got Washington coming on. Your

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Speaker 1: former teammates in town. He was here for the game

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Speaker 1: on Sunday, and he's gonna be here in studio with

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Speaker 1: us coming up at the bottom of this hour. You

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Speaker 1: played with him for a couple of years, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: any years had together. I think like three, three or four.

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Speaker 1: He was one of those guys and just a great teammate,

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Speaker 1: really a tremendous teammate and a great asset to our

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Speaker 1: club within the years that he played here. I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, we make jokes about um Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: That guy was dominant, played for seventeen years at the

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Speaker 1: nose tackle position. He may have been, in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: of the league. Ted Washington certainly when you when you

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Speaker 1: But the guy was a great athlete and he weighed

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Speaker 1: So I'm I'm really excited to have Ted Washington on

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Speaker 1: the show today. I I he was a I believe

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Speaker 1: he was a national champion wrestler at the heavyweight division.

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Speaker 1: none of these guys can. And you kind of get

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Speaker 1: You just you know, you get used to seeing all

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Speaker 1: these big guys. You hang around him, it's just normal

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Speaker 1: he is big. He is a big He never got

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Speaker 1: He was an athlete and everywhere he went, every team

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Speaker 1: That guy was a monster, a monster and a great

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Speaker 1: And uh, it was great. He was great. I'm so,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm stoked. He's gonna be on with us coming

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Speaker 1: We made way for hockey today. I don't understand how

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Speaker 1: at one o'clock. At two o'clock today, another former Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Brooks right for yeah, build second round pick wide receivers.

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Speaker 1: Now makes his living an NFL Network, one of their

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Speaker 1: We'll talk with him about some really good stuff and

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Speaker 1: So Bucky Brooks coming on with us as well. All right,

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Speaker 1: that looks like the show. So thanks for tuning in.

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Speaker 1: And I'm just kidding. We're not going to say goodbye here.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about a couple of things.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk to you, Steve about your health.

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Speaker 1: You had another long weekend trip to Jacksonville, came back

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Speaker 1: starting to catch up with me, Murph right now again,

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Speaker 1: no od the grind, Yeah, you've been through the grind.

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Speaker 1: I started to get a little sick Sunday night. You know,

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Speaker 1: mentally exhausted. I don't like to admit it, but I'm

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Speaker 1: You've got me someday soon, I think. Yes, last night

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Speaker 1: So I love being with him. Yeah, it's great. It's great.

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Speaker 1: But he's been really busy, busy, really busy. I mean

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Speaker 1: And he just got great stories. He was a big

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Speaker 1: You're going to see the Sabers play tonight at home,

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Speaker 1: and you're you confess to me that really the only

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Speaker 1: sick is because you feel kilty. Well I didn't. It's

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Speaker 1: not the only reason. Here's the thing. I did have

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Speaker 1: Because he lay there and you think, how am I feeling?

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Speaker 1: they go to a hockey game, right. So it turns

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Speaker 1: out I do feel ten times better than I did yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I kind of you know, I'm not gonna take today

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Speaker 1: the win over their Lions on Sunday, but the offense

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Speaker 1: is better than it was back then. That was really

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Speaker 1: the low point of the Bills offensively back then, in

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Speaker 1: the mid to late October, right right up until they

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Speaker 1: went to the Jets middle of November. Right, they had

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Speaker 1: four straight games where they're averaging like I think it

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Speaker 1: was six points a game. Right, they're much better. They're better,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, much better. They're better offensively now than

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Speaker 1: they were. I think they're more dangerous. I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's any question. Robert Foster has played h and become

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Speaker 1: a dependable wide receiver. Maybe not spectacular, but certainly the

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Speaker 1: big player is there with his speed and Josh Allen's

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Speaker 1: ability to throw the ball anywhere on the field. Isaiah

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Speaker 1: McKenzie is a factor. He was not in the mix

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Speaker 1: back then to the extent he is now. And let's

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Speaker 1: face it, Josh Allen's better. So it's, uh, there's some

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Speaker 1: things to hang your hat on. Offensively, they're certainly still

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Speaker 1: not scoring points with the top teams in the league,

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Speaker 1: and they're not going to do that probably this year. Uh,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna need to They're gonna need to rework their

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Speaker 1: offensive personnel a lot before they're going to get to

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Speaker 1: a point where they're pushing people around up front and

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Speaker 1: scoring twenty eight to thirty five points a game. But

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Speaker 1: they are better, and I think the fact that they

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Speaker 1: play with a little more confidence they did than they

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Speaker 1: did at that point is a big factor in it.

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen's gonna throw the football. He throws it away

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Speaker 1: when he needs to a little more. And with teams

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Speaker 1: starting to look at him and knowing that the thing

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Speaker 1: that defensive coordinators fear the most is Josh Allen running

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Speaker 1: for one hundred and fifty yards or one hundred and

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Speaker 1: sixty yards, some big number like that, or snapping off

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Speaker 1: a big play. They hate that. So what they do

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Speaker 1: is and the reason that's a big weapon is because

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Speaker 1: now they do what the Detroit Lions did. They're not

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Speaker 1: going to rush him and give him lanes where he

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Speaker 1: can just snap off big runs. They're not going to

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Speaker 1: play as much man to man coverage behind their front

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Speaker 1: so that when Josh Allen does start to run, they've

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Speaker 1: got people watching him, they'll come up and make the

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Speaker 1: tackle shorter than they would if you know, he's not

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Speaker 1: going to break off a twenty five yard run. It

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Speaker 1: maybe an eight yard run or a seven yard run

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Speaker 1: because they're gonna have their eyes on him. That's the

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Speaker 1: defensive philosophy teams are using now. So as a result,

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Speaker 1: he does have more time in the pocket. It does

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Speaker 1: take some pressure off his offensive line to protect against

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Speaker 1: five rushers instead of three rushers or four rushers. He's

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Speaker 1: got more time, and I think it's you know, it

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Speaker 1: gives those receivers and Josh Allen chance to develop because

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Speaker 1: he doesn't have to pull the thing down after his

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Speaker 1: first read. He can go to his second read and

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Speaker 1: sometimes his third read. Hasn't always gotten to those who

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Speaker 1: are delivered it, but it's it's it's what they're giving him,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's made him look better and play

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Speaker 1: better from the pocket. Look, here's what I'm thinking too. Usually,

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Speaker 1: among a certain segment of people to follow the Bills,

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Speaker 1: the trip to Foxborough elicits the usual hackneyedah we got well,

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Speaker 1: you know we're gonna lose a Foxborough. You know how

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Speaker 1: these games go. I mean, there are people, let's face it,

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Speaker 1: a good reason too, there's history. I don't think this

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Speaker 1: is one of those games. I really don't. I don't

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Speaker 1: because of where the Bills are at, because of the

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Speaker 1: promise Bills have shown over the last a couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks with Josh Allen back in the lineup, because of

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Speaker 1: the way the Patriots have played and losing their last

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Speaker 1: two and variety of reasons. Because of the way the

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Speaker 1: game went down a month to two months ago October

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Speaker 1: twenty nine. I don't think this is one of those

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Speaker 1: games where you roll your eyes and dread Buffalo at

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Speaker 1: New England. And I could be proven wrong, and I

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Speaker 1: have been over the years at New England. I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying the Bills are gonna win, but I am saying

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Speaker 1: this game is a little bit there's a little bit

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Speaker 1: more icing on this cake than there usually is on

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Speaker 1: Buffalo at New England. But really, let me give you

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Speaker 1: a couple of handful of free Just why you need

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Speaker 1: to be optimistic about the folks. I'll give you a

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Speaker 1: couple of them. One is their offense is better. Josh

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Speaker 1: gives them that chance. He and I keep laughing. I

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Speaker 1: keep calling him the bomb. He's the guy that can

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Speaker 1: explode at any minute. He can snap off a forty

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Speaker 1: yard run, he can make a throw, he can hit

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Speaker 1: you with a big play down the field at any

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Speaker 1: given moment. That's fun to watch, and that's something the

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Speaker 1: Patriots are worried about. Secondly, the Bills got the top

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Speaker 1: the number two defense in the National Football League. They're

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Speaker 1: there without having a lot of sacks, without having a

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Speaker 1: lot of turnovers. That's a big thing. That's real, and

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Speaker 1: the Patriots know it's real. The Bills are tough to

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Speaker 1: move the football on. And I have seen Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: play a couple of times this year up close and personal,

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Speaker 1: and if you haven't seen him play on TV, he

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Speaker 1: is not the same guy he was. That is a

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Speaker 1: handful of reasons right there why you should have a

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Speaker 1: lot of optimism, a lot of interest in watching this game.

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Speaker 1: There's all kinds of reasons on the other ledge, given

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Speaker 1: mostly history of how good this organization is at home.

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Speaker 1: But there's a lot of the reasons to think, you

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Speaker 1: know what, this may be. This may be a really

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Speaker 1: competitive game. And then the Bills have every reason to

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Speaker 1: think they're gonna walk in there. Plus this Bill's coaching

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Speaker 1: staff not only did this Patriots get a load of

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Speaker 1: the Bills and what they're doing against the Patriots, and

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Speaker 1: we can make adjustments. The Bills coaching staff did too.

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Speaker 1: They've got a better handle on what the Patriots think

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Speaker 1: about their offense and they're going to make adjustments as well.

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Speaker 1: So there's a lot of reasons to find interest in

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Speaker 1: this game. Yeah, and there is this too, and be optimistic.

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Speaker 1: I am, yeah, there's this also, and I freely admit

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Speaker 1: that the reception on my part that the Bills are

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Speaker 1: a year away from being a really pretty good team

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Speaker 1: colors my perception of this game. You know what I'm saying, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: No longer is it like, oh, what are we gonna do?

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have to fire a coach in the offseason

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Speaker 1: and still don't have a quarterback an hour going to

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Speaker 1: New England to get our usual you know, lamb basteam

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Speaker 1: by the Patriots. None of that applies this year. The

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Speaker 1: Bills clearly have turned the corner headed in the right direction.

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Speaker 1: It's been a difficult year with only five wins so far,

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Speaker 1: but I don't think any of that applies this year.

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Speaker 1: Going into this game again, there's a lot of people,

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Speaker 1: even media people out there and say, oh, here we go,

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Speaker 1: the Bills are going to New England. They get waxed again.

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Speaker 1: I think you have a hard time to settling that

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Speaker 1: concept to many Bills fans based on what's going on

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Speaker 1: here this year and based on what the Patriots there

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Speaker 1: and it may happen. I mean, sure, you gotta play

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Speaker 1: and that's a good team. There's a good team. They're

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Speaker 1: number three in the conference and that's real. But the

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Speaker 1: Bills are a different team. Yeah, how much different than

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Speaker 1: when they were back on October twenty ninth. That's why

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Speaker 1: we want to hear from you. We got phone lines

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Speaker 1: open at eight oh three oh five fifty and toll

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Speaker 1: You can weigh in on Twitter. Write something out and

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Speaker 1: we'll read it maybe on our tweet sheet. Are the

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Speaker 1: Bills better now than the last time they played the

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Speaker 1: Patriots back in October? The Monday night game? Here, let

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Speaker 1: us know what you think. Eight oh three five fifty

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Speaker 1: five fifty. You're gonna break and Ted Washington's gonna be

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Speaker 1: out here on the set with us, a long time

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Speaker 1: Bill's nose tackle, tremendous career in the NFL. He's standing

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Speaker 1: by to join us. Why not let you know about

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Speaker 1: the Blue Rock Solar Player of the Week. The votes

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Speaker 1: is wide receiver Robert Foster with about forty percent of

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Speaker 1: the vote in an extremely close vote. Josh Allen got

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Speaker 1: thirty five percent, seven and a half percent for Lorenzo

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Speaker 1: A proud supporter of the Buffalo Bill. Ted Washington joins us,

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Speaker 1: and we return, Come on back, One Bills Live from

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. And this is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to the show One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive.

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Speaker 1: John Murphy and Steve Tasker here until three o'clock this afternoon.

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Speaker 1: Happy to have it with us, Happy to have our

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Speaker 1: next guest. He joins us on set in studio in

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Speaker 1: our one Buffalo Studio, Former Bills No Tackle Ted Washington

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Speaker 1: six years right with the Buffalo Bills. A long career,

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Speaker 1: long career, Ted, I'm looking at it again. You played

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Speaker 1: from ninety one till oh seven, sixteen years, seventeen years

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Speaker 1: in a position where you're getting drilled on every snap,

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Speaker 1: at least two to three players a snap. How do

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Speaker 1: you hold up through that? Well? I did it, um,

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Speaker 1: And it's taking a toll now, isn't Yeah, I'll say that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're you're to see a doctor while you're in town

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Speaker 1: about your hip. Yes, I am welcome to the club.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna ask, do you know some statistics that

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Speaker 1: have been associated with your career? Because I said it

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Speaker 1: earlier in the show and I had somebody relate this

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Speaker 1: to me, and I don't know if it's exactly accurate,

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Speaker 1: but when you were playing nose tackle for any defense

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Speaker 1: that you played on, you played for a handful of teams,

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Speaker 1: you were in the top five rush defense almost every

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Speaker 1: time you lined up all the time, right every year,

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Speaker 1: every year you were in top five rush defense. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and and basically I remember Kent Hold, who was a

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Speaker 1: close friend of ours, and you knew him really well.

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Speaker 1: When you got to Buffalo and we were they plugged

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Speaker 1: you into the defense, we had this you know, guys

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Speaker 1: are quiet conversation. Ken had been here for a while

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Speaker 1: and we all knew him, and we said, okay, so

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Speaker 1: what's the how's why, what's Ted, like, you know what's

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Speaker 1: in training camp. We were asking him and he said, listen,

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Speaker 1: when Ted cox that hip after the ball snap, you

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Speaker 1: can't move him. And really that's the key, right you

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Speaker 1: played football like a tree stump. I anchored very well

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Speaker 1: and I used my hands there well, and that was

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Speaker 1: the key to my success. Did you have a wrestling background? Yes,

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Speaker 1: stay telling state champion in wrestling, and that's where leverage

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Speaker 1: is taught. And that's why I teach the kids nowadays

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Speaker 1: go out for the wrestling team and uh, you would

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Speaker 1: go a long way. Yeah, oh yeah. Listen, I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you this story. I've told it. I might have told

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Speaker 1: to you Murph, so you may not remember this, Ted,

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Speaker 1: but I heard in the locker room. This was after

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Speaker 1: you'd been there a year or two and we we

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Speaker 1: knew each other. I kind of squared off with you

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Speaker 1: in the locker room in the middle of the on

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Speaker 1: the logo, right in the middle of the big locker room,

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Speaker 1: because I want to see you know, your state wrestler.

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Speaker 1: Let me show me something. And I was we were

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Speaker 1: kind of circling like wrestlers do, and I got a

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Speaker 1: little too close to you and the next thing, I know,

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Speaker 1: with one hand he grabbed my form. I a hand

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Speaker 1: was so big he grabbed my form and his grip

641
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,479
Speaker 1: was so strong. He had me. He just steered me

642
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: to the ground with my own forearm by pressure and

643
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,719
Speaker 1: put me on my back. And I was I was like,

644
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: just stop. I just like, just stop. Don't do it

645
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: anymore because I don't want to see this. This This it's

646
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: like a rattlesting but really wrestling. Yeah, my hands are

647
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 1: so authortic. Grab a couple of water. There's so many

648
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: guys that play down in the trenches who have had

649
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: a wrestling background. The Bills head coaches was a wrestler.

650
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: He never played in the trenches. But that really does

651
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: help you, right, I mean that's the best kind of

652
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: the stuff you coach your young high school guys. Now, Yes,

653
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: And speaking of the coach, you can tell by the

654
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: way the walk a wrestler, the little slight slump like

655
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: they're gonna get in there and wrestling. You can see that,

656
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: and I look like I think he wrestled. And those

657
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: are the little the ones we call it, little bad

658
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: boys that know what they're doing. But I teach the kids,

659
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: like you said when you said about the risks, it

660
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: wasn't the form. It was the risk. You control the

661
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: risk or the elbow, and wrestling, chances are you should

662
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: win the mess because those are the weakest points when

663
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: you're wrestling, and you take it to your opponent by

664
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: grabbing that risk and you can control them. Yeah, it

665
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: was unbelievable. I've never been put to the ground and

666
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: humiliated in front of all the guys you love and

667
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: risk BacT right in front of everybody. Why I think

668
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: it would be great TV for you? Step down first?

669
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: Right here? Ted Washington's in studio with us. As we said,

670
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: six years with the Bills and I total about seven

671
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: different NFL teams and seven teams. Yeah, why so much

672
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: moving around? Do you think? Well, it was doing that time.

673
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: It was more about the contract, you know, So I

674
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: know I could Bill started, which I was a start

675
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: on every team I played on, and probably the negotiation

676
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: and just keep moving on it in and when I leave,

677
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: it's like I got better until the past the last

678
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: few years of my career, when I was like time

679
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: to shut it down. Cleveland, right, finished up with Cleveland.

680
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: Tell you told the story on our show a couple

681
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: of years ago when you were with us. But tell

682
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: us the story again of how Wade Phillips brought you

683
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: here from He came here from Denver, and it was

684
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: almost like YouTube were a package deal because he wanted

685
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: you immediately when he came here from the Broccos. Right. Yes,

686
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: I was with the four to nine ers and I

687
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: got traded to Denver and that's when I first met

688
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: Wade and he wanted to do the three four defense,

689
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: which I never played those before. I was three technique

690
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:03,479
Speaker 1: or five technique. And we did pretty good in Denver

691
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: and I was going to be a free agent heard

692
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,959
Speaker 1: about him getting a position in Buffalo, and I was like, hey,

693
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: I'll tag along to you know. Now I'm playing this position.

694
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: I think I like it and I'm want to continue

695
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: to do it. Yeah. What did you like about the

696
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: nose position in three four? Well, in the beginning, you

697
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: don't make a lot of plays because you know you're

698
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: gonna get double team or triple team they ever play.

699
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: And just to be one on one knowing that I

700
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: can dominate that center that was that was a big,

701
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: big key to it. Right, Yeah, it gets It's a

702
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: different spot and most people think, well, you're a defensive

703
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: They don't know the difference between a defensive tackle and

704
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,479
Speaker 1: a nose guard. There's a huge difference. Was different though

705
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: it's only three feet of space. Where it's the stands exactly.

706
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: It's the stance because Bruce didn't field. You know, they're

707
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: getting in that cock stands and I was in the

708
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: more of a bass stance like a wrestler, and being

709
00:32:55,760 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: in that stance my leverage. I utilized it. What I did,

710
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: um tell me about you? Steve mentioned how you went

711
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: in practice up against Kent Hall, who would imagine was

712
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: a pretty good opponent. But who were some of the

713
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: best centers you faced in all those years, those seventeen

714
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: seasons in the NFL. Kent was a great center. Um,

715
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: I have to give the money Dawson because of his

716
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: quickness and you know he knew size wise, strength wise

717
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: that I get him, but his finesse and his knowledge

718
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: of the game. He was a hard, tough nosed guy.

719
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: But everybody wanted to bring in your my way, Damon

720
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: Woody Saturday and all these other guys. But they got

721
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: to realize these guys were drafted to come after me

722
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: to have slow me down in the AFC, and yes,

723
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: all those team Miami. So it was fun to watch

724
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: them draft or pay a guy a boatload of money

725
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: just to try to slow me down and didn't work.

726
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: Some of those guys. I'm trying to think our Hall

727
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: of Fame candidates anyway, right, people talk about the Saturday

728
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: he's not in the Hall of Fame, Jeff, he's not in,

729
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: But people talked about my why Kevin why he's not in?

730
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: Now you've been you've been nominated. Do you think it's

731
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 1: a detriment to your Hall of Fame candasy that you

732
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: played for a bunch of different teams and not just

733
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: one team that dominated for all those years? Is that

734
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: you think it's a plus or minus? It can go

735
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 1: either way. But I don't know how the voting is

736
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: done or who's in charge of that. My stats, my

737
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: numbers are pretty good. Oh yeah for a nose tackle,

738
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm just waiting to see yeah. And

739
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: I like to go in as a bill, but I

740
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: really I got to wait that rather wait until you

741
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: get in first. We keep track of people who vote

742
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 1: for Steve Tasker on the show. I think we're gonna

743
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 1: count got this thing going where he's keeping tracking voted.

744
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: My family is voted so far I'll vote too, goes Man. Yeah,

745
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: there it is. We're up to one hundred and three votes.

746
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: Don't even count one of Fame votes. I'll tell you

747
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 1: it's true though. Now you've you've taken it upon yourself

748
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: at this point in your life, a lot of guys

749
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: have done it where you're you've gone back and started

750
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: talking to young kids, and you're coaching at high school now,

751
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: and you're kind of helping out with that. It's it's

752
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: is it fun for you to go back and see

753
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,399
Speaker 1: these young kids that and say, listen, hey try this,

754
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: and what what's the most common denominator for the kids

755
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: that you coach. It's teaching the fundamentals, because if you

756
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 1: see now in college and the pros, the fundamentals are gone.

757
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: I'm just speaking of offensive defensive linement. The hands are

758
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,479
Speaker 1: not used properly. All they want to do is shoot

759
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: the gap, and that's not football. If you want to

760
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: be a great player, learn to use your hands and

761
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 1: dominate people that way. And so when I go back

762
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: and teach these kids that, it's a big advantage because

763
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: I know most high schools don't teach that. And when

764
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 1: I get a guy that's one hundred and fifteen twenty

765
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: pounds half to play d line and he takes on

766
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: a two fifty to three hundred pounder. He wins because

767
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: he put his hands on them first and uses you know,

768
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: his hands and leverage and that's a big plus for me.

769
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: And it's like, wow, I can really battle anybody to

770
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 1: go up against right, and it's it's really something. And

771
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: I think it's hard to teach kids because they you know,

772
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: most kids, they get out, they want they see ESPN,

773
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: the Sports Center and they highlight realms. They think like,

774
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: I get you gotta get through the gap, and you

775
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 1: gotta get sacks and tackles for loss and batted passes.

776
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: But really football is based particular on your side of

777
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: the ball. It's based on that front seven, fitting where

778
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 1: you're supposed to fit, doing what you're supposed to do

779
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: so you can all be successful. Success hard to teach, yes,

780
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 1: Unselfishness is hard to teach. And we know about selfness

781
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: selfishness with the players I played with. And I'll see there,

782
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: Oh you give me a name, then I'll yeah, I

783
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: don't think I have a hard time guessing. Yeah, And

784
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 1: tell me you coached at Indian Land High School in Carolina,

785
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 1: South Carolina, and you're coaching just a D line there,

786
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: just a D line, And I give a few ponents

787
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 1: for the offensive line guys, and you know pretty much,

788
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: I haven't or don't want to coach at one of

789
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: these top notch schools. I'd rather take though. I call

790
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 1: them little Jimmies, the guys that's under achievers, and teach

791
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 1: them the techniques. And I get a kick out of

792
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: seeing them being this small but play big. Yeah right, yeah, um,

793
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 1: you were here over the weekend, you watch the Bills

794
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: beat the Lions. Overall impressions of the game, what you think?

795
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: Once again, I watched technique. You didn't see much that

796
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: you liked. The fundamental part though, I'm not taking the

797
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: thing away from the players of the coaches, but you know,

798
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 1: guys can be a lot better if they, you know,

799
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: use the proper techniques when they're planned. These defensive linemen,

800
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: I think you said this, they're more interested in in quickness, right,

801
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: and quickness, get up feel and that's you know, if

802
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: that's what the coaches are satisfied with, so be it.

803
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: But if I was a defensive line coach at this level,

804
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: I wouldn't accept it. You're gonna learn proper technique and

805
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 1: then be successful. We've had Coyle Williams playing defensive tackle

806
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: here for a long time. What do you think of

807
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 1: his game? And how do you know you ever talked

808
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: about No, I haven't talked with him. I think I

809
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: met him a couple of times. I mean he's a

810
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: solid player. Yeah, been around for years. And that's what

811
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: you talked about. We talked about your career. He went

812
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 1: over seventeen years. When you get into an NFL locker room,

813
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: that's kind of the one statistic, for lack of a

814
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 1: better word, that really trumps everything else for players. When

815
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: you're a guy who can play for as long as

816
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 1: you played, that's the one thing that every other player

817
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: in the locker room looks at and said, Wow, I

818
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: wish that, you know. I wish that was me. I

819
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 1: wish I had that stat behind my name, because that's

820
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: really the most difficult thing to do, is be that

821
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: valuable for that long. Yes, it is. And the key

822
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,240
Speaker 1: to that is And when I speak at these schools,

823
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 1: is it Goum, Why how you last along? I said,

824
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: what a key to it is you take care of

825
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: your trainers, your equipment people, and you'll be fine, right,

826
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: They know when to let you practice, know what you need.

827
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: You take care of those guys and you can your

828
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: career can go a long way. Yeah, we had that

829
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 1: same kind of atmosphere in Buffalo. I know when you

830
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: were here that you know, you really felt like those

831
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: guys were in it with you, you you know, and people say, well,

832
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 1: the players are gonna do it, but there's all those

833
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: guys Woody, coach Bud, all those guys that you remember.

834
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: They were as much a part of the success day

835
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: today as the guy's going out and practicing. And you're right,

836
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 1: I mean, and that's the kind of the atmosphere that

837
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: Sean mcdermot's trying to foster in this building, where everybody's

838
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: pulling the same direction and there's a lot more peers

839
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: in the room than just the players. Yeah. So my

840
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: advice to these guys now, don't look at your trainers

841
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 1: and equipment guys, or that being beneath you where eyed

842
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: eye work together. You take care of me, I'll take

843
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: care of you, and your career can go a long way.

844
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: As you said, you're coaching some high school, working with kids.

845
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: We talked to you a couple of years ago. You

846
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: you were in the Popeyes frozen Chicken business. You're out

847
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: of that now? Or was a Popeyes? Or have you

848
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 1: ever had Popeyes? No Popeyes frozen chicken? Popeyes? No love

849
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: that chicken from Popeyes. Come on, it's a frozen it's

850
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: it's a franchise. Yeah, it's quick, it's fast fried chicken foods. Yes,

851
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: it is there. There's one of the Buffalo Now there's

852
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Speaker 1: a couple here in Buffalo now. Well, it was fun.

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Speaker 1: It was something to do. Um. If I had to

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Speaker 1: do it again, yeah, I probably do it again, but

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00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:17,439
Speaker 1: change a few things. But it's time consuming. Um and

856
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 1: you know, being urged into a job. It was a job.

857
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Speaker 1: That's the adjustment. This guy's struggling with it. Who needs it? Okay?

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Speaker 1: All right, Jed, thanks, Ted's a great seeing many glad

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Speaker 1: you here. Thanks for coming by. Ted Washington, four time

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl performer, including several great years with the Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bill Steve and I coming back with more One Goes

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Speaker 1: Live from One Bills Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back into the show. We're talking about Popeyes Frozen Chicken.

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Speaker 1: J Murphy and Steve. I don't know where I came

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00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: up with that. My apologies to folks at Popeyes and

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Speaker 1: the people who appreciate Popeyes right now. Used to Fred

867
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: Ted used to own three Popeyes franchises. That's why I

868
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Speaker 1: asked about that. Yeah, you're right, Steve. Early in the show,

869
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:08,240
Speaker 1: you said, when you were a teammate of Ted Washington's

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00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 1: um every day and he walked into the locker room,

871
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: you would say to yourself, what man, he is big?

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00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: He's big in every way. Is he big top to bottom,

873
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Speaker 1: side to side, front to back. It's it's pretty impressive.

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00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: He was a big man. He was phenomenal player, great

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Speaker 1: teammate too, and I and we you know, you mentioned

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Speaker 1: how big he is, and he had that wrestling background.

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Speaker 1: He was a state champion wrestler as a young journeys.

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00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: But the thing that set him apart and allowed him

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00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: play seventeen years was how smart the guy was. He

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00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: was committed, you know, like, oh, he's talking about technique

881
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: and fundamentals and and you know he showed up for

882
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: work every day and worked hard at it. And it's

883
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,439
Speaker 1: that kind of discipline and hard work that you put

884
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: that with a guy that is as massive as Ted Washington,

885
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: and you get an NFL player who plays seventeen years.

886
00:41:56,160 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 1: It is dominant everywhere he plays, and certainly Um deserves

887
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 1: consideration to be U in Canton, Ohio, the guy he

888
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: wont to. He won a Super Bowl with the Patriots.

889
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: Be interesting to see what Bill Belichick remembers about him

890
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 1: and Tom Brady and those guys he helped him win

891
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: a championship. He was, He was a great player, really great.

892
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: Your team's had one of the great strength and conditioning

893
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,720
Speaker 1: coordinators in NFL history, Rusty Jones here when Ted Washington

894
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: was here. How do those two hit it off? Good?

895
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 1: I go, I Ted would come in and he worked hard,

896
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: I told you. And I remember Rusty saying, he goes,

897
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: like Ted came in, he did like four reps with

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00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: four oh five you know, it's like which is like

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Speaker 1: four plates on the side of the bench. And I go, well,

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00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 1: how much a guy like that could he you know,

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00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: if he was going to try and bench as much

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00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: as he could bench and get ready for it, how

903
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: much heat? And Rusty just goes, it's limitless. Yeah, that's

904
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: his word, limitless, because he could bench anything he wants,

905
00:42:56,160 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: you know, and you know he was just so strong, unbelievable.

906
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: So he's one of those guys. I told you you

907
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,720
Speaker 1: at his height, I mean at the height of his powers,

908
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: when he was in his prime, there wasn't a handful

909
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: of people on our planet Earth that could have beat

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00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: him up in a fight. There wasn't five guys on

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00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: planet Earth that could have beat up Ted Washington and

912
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: a good guy. He's early or angry or anything. No,

913
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: he's great. I'm you know, he just that's and that's

914
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: why he put together, you know, the career he did

915
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: and was a kind of player he was, and it

916
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Speaker 1: has a kind of regard for former teammates that he does.

917
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: He's a tremendous person. Good damn here, I was a gift.

918
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: I'm glad he was in town. He got a chance

919
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: to have him on. Yeah. Hey, we're talking a little

920
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: bit about the Bills and the Patriots today and we're

921
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: gonna continue that discussion. We got we got a lot

922
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Speaker 1: more to come out on the show coming up around

923
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Speaker 1: two o'clock. Buck he Brooks, former Bills wide receiver now

924
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Speaker 1: analysts for NFL Network's going to join us. Coming up

925
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,720
Speaker 1: at one o'clock today, we're gonna talk with Keith Ford,

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00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: brand new Bills running back. We got his first tape

927
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: to the NFL. We sat down and talk with him

928
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 1: before the show began today and he's going to join

929
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Speaker 1: this just a few minutes. And we also have an

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00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: interesting Twitter question I think that deals with the Bills

931
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 1: and the Patriots and this matchup two months really, it

932
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Speaker 1: was mid season when the Bills played him here in

933
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: Orchard parkback in newer Field October twenty ninth. Here we

934
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Speaker 1: are two months later, and we're asking the question on Twitter,

935
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 1: and we're asking you, now have the Bills are they

936
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,240
Speaker 1: better now than the last time they played the Patriots?

937
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: What do you think? Give us a call. We'll discuss

938
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Speaker 1: eight oh three oh five fifty and toll free one

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Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. We have

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Speaker 1: some responses on Twitter two that are interesting. Yeah, everybody's

941
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 1: chiming in on this, and you'd kind of imagine that

942
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: from Brian Greer. He tweets in the Bills actually have

943
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 1: somewhat of an offense. Our quarterback is world's better than before.

944
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: Plus our defense is still great, plus with Brady's struggles,

945
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: and it has me really really interested. Hopefully Josh can

946
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: have a great game. Patch losing three in a row

947
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 1: is a better story than another Bill's loss. That's true. Yeah,

948
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,399
Speaker 1: I wrote, you know, I write this seven storylines thing

949
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: that went up on the website this morning. That's the

950
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Speaker 1: number one storyline they think to the Patriots, really lose

951
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: three in a row hasn't happened since two thousand and two?

952
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 1: Can they do that? Can they lose three in a row?

953
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: We just haven't seen it. I do agree the Patriots

954
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 1: losing three in a row will be a better story,

955
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 1: and I do think I agree with Brian Greer. This

956
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: game has me really really interested for a lot of

957
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: these reasons. What else you got there? JW. Socks? I

958
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: definitely think the team is better. Josh is more comfortable

959
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: in his position. Receivers are getting open and stretching the

960
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: defense running backs for this game. As a question, we

961
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: need McCoy back this week. Yeah. The healthier the Bills are,

962
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 1: the more they're the better they're going to play, no

963
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: question about it. Despite the fact that Lashawn hasn't has

964
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,919
Speaker 1: had maybe one great game this year against the Jets

965
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, He's still a guy that

966
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,760
Speaker 1: I think defenses respect more than anybody else on the roster.

967
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: Also from Bills and Mets, fans. Absolutely, we're better. In fact,

968
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,760
Speaker 1: it looks like Brady might finally be falling off. Maybe,

969
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 1: just maybe, just maybe this is the time we've been

970
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: waiting for a good, solid quality quarterback like Josh to

971
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: put it all together and to put a whooping on

972
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 1: old Man Brady and Belichick. Maybe, well, we'll see. I

973
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: like you, I see where Bills fans are going with this,

974
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 1: and the next I'm gonna read one more tweet which

975
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 1: I think takes a little bit over the top. That

976
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: one's a little bit over the top. Two old Man

977
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: Brady and Belichick. Look, it's been a long history of

978
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: Patriots domination in the series, so let's not get crazy here.

979
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: Hopefully the gap is closing. It is an interesting tweet

980
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: from Andrew North when we asked the question, now the

981
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: bill is better now than they were a couple of

982
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: months ago when they lost to the Patriots. Andrew North response,

983
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,439
Speaker 1: I think the real question is is Tom Does Tom

984
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: Brady have what it takes to still play in the league?

985
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:39,399
Speaker 1: Come on, come on, gradual decline. I think if our

986
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: defense puts enough pressure on Brady, then they should have

987
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: no problem stopping him. We shall see on Sunday. Go Bills.

988
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: Who I love it when people get that worth. Yes, yeah,

989
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: Andrew North? Can he still playing downhill? Fast? Let's go?

990
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: We are we are, we are drunk on Brady Guy?

991
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: Can he still play? He? Can he still pay anything?

992
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: All Right? We're gonna talk more about this in the

993
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 1: next hour of the show, and we're gonna We're gonna

994
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 1: start it out by talking to Keith Ford, brand new

995
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 1: Bills running back. He probably is gonna get a chance

996
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: to see what he can do against the Patriots on Sunday.

997
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,879
Speaker 1: That's coming up next. It is One Bills Live from

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00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive and this is Buffalo Bills Radio, Buffalo

999
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: Bills Radio Network Sports Date the update from One Bills Drive.

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00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 1: It is an off day Tuesday for the Buffalo Bills.

1001
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: The coach he's have hard at work putting together as

1002
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 1: a game plan for Sunday's matchup in New England against

1003
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Speaker 1: the Patriots. Patriots have lost too in a row. They

1004
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: haven't lost three in a row in the last sixteen years. Buffalo,

1005
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 1: what's some question marks at running back again? Ed coach

1006
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 1: Sean McDermot, saying yesterday that he was not sure whether

1007
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 1: was Sean McCoy or Chris Ivory would be able to return.

1008
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: Neither one of them played in the win over Detroit

1009
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: on Sunday, and Marcus Murphy, who did start the game

1010
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: at running back for the Bills against the Lions. Marcus

1011
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: Murphy is a dislocated elbows status in serious jeopardy. Bills

1012
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 1: may have to get more work from Keith Fort, rookie

1013
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: undrafted free agent. He's going to join us on the

1014
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,439
Speaker 1: show here in a moment. Last night, the New Orleans

1015
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: Saints put themselves one win away from securing home field

1016
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,760
Speaker 1: advantage in the NFC. They held off the Carolina Panthers

1017
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: by a final score at twelve to nine on Monday

1018
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: Night Football. The Saints now with the league best twelve

1019
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: wins this season. Panthers dropped the six and eight. Alvin

1020
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: Kamara had a good game for New Orleans one hundred

1021
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 1: and nine total yards on twenty one touches. Cam Newton

1022
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: looks like he's dealing with his shoulder issue, but the

1023
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: Panthers may continue to play him down the stretch here.

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00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: After losing last night, Panthers coach Ron Rivera said he

1025
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: would not make a determination on Newton's status for the

1026
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,959
Speaker 1: final two weeks of the season until after he talks

1027
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: of the medical step and the quarterback later on Today.

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00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: Sabers in action Tonight they host the Florida Panthers. Jack

1029
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 1: Ico the NHL's third Star of the Week that came yesterday.

1030
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,919
Speaker 1: Sabers captain with five goals and four assists in four

1031
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:55,720
Speaker 1: games last week. Sam Reinhardt against Florida has thirteen points

1032
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: in fourteen career games, including points in each of the

1033
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 1: last four meetings. Avers in the Florida Panthers at the

1034
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: Key Bank Center tonight seven o'clock face off and a

1035
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,439
Speaker 1: big college basketball game on the road in Syracuse Today,

1036
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 1: the fifteen Franked Bulls of you Be take on Syracuse.

1037
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: Syracuse is seven and three. Youb his ten and o

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00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: winners of ten straight to open the season. You finishes

1039
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 1: off this tough road trip with the game at Marquette

1040
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: later this week. Buffalo off to its best start since

1041
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,720
Speaker 1: nineteen thirty. They played at Syracuse in eight eight o'clock

1042
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: in the thirty Dome. That game is on ESPN two

1043
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 1: Good Time, Plaster Get to the End Bastimes Times Do Time,

1044
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: Welcome Back One ViOS Live John Ropy Team castor in

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00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 1: Our Side Studio, The Steves Basso Studio, joined by those

1046
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: rookie running back Keith Ford. Welcome Keith, good to have

1047
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 1: you here. How you doing. I'm I'm glad to be here.

1048
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 1: You've been around for a while. We haven't had a

1049
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: chance to meet until today when you introduced yourself to

1050
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: Bills fans with your performance on Sunday, your first NFL game.

1051
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: How did that go for you? What do you think? Um, yeah,

1052
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: I went back to preseason. Oh yeah, a little bit

1053
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: of nerves, but you know, just uh, you know, trying

1054
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Speaker 1: things differitely, getting the routine. So you know when my

1055
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Speaker 1: name was called, uh, I can be ready. All those

1056
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Speaker 1: nerves and everything like, uh, you know, it was good

1057
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Speaker 1: to be out there. It was good to play football

1058
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Speaker 1: and you know, and uh, it was really good to

1059
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Speaker 1: get to win. Yeah. It's interesting too because you didn't

1060
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Speaker 1: know the game was gonna come down like that. You

1061
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: still had Marcus Murphy ahead of you, you know, with

1062
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: Chris Ivory and Lashaw McCoy being down. Then all of

1063
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 1: a sudden, you you you were the you were the

1064
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: depth chart and you were the front and the back

1065
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,720
Speaker 1: of the middle, and they kept wanting to run the football.

1066
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: I mean that that it kind of got comical when

1067
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: you couldn't run anymore. You had to come off the

1068
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,479
Speaker 1: field and DeMarco has to go in tell us about

1069
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 1: how that transported. You knew you might get to play

1070
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: a little bit and then all of a sudden you're

1071
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 1: the last guy standing. When did it dawn on you?

1072
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a long day. Um. Shoot, when Murph

1073
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: uh went down and I was just right when I

1074
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 1: stepped on the field, and I was just like, man,

1075
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 1: I'm last man standing. So I knew at that point

1076
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,280
Speaker 1: where you know, this is what my coach was preparing

1077
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: me for from the preseason all the way until now.

1078
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,760
Speaker 1: Just all you know, just you know the training and scenario.

1079
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 1: You know, me just beat me on practice card, doing

1080
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 1: all the reps, coming ready for that moment. So when

1081
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: that happened, I would didn't spis out. I didn't I

1082
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: didn't freak out. I just accepted the challenge and you know,

1083
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 1: took a deep breath and you know, just did what

1084
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: I let to do. You have the mentality of a

1085
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: player where it's like I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna

1086
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,479
Speaker 1: get I'm gonna kill this. This is gonna be my spot,

1087
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: right I mean, is that kind of what when you're

1088
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: back there thinking I'm the last man standing. Did you

1089
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: kind of hit that moment where he said, you know,

1090
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 1: watch me, I'm gonna I'm gonna do this. Well, it

1091
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: was it was more of a humbling state where you know,

1092
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: it's just like, you know, you know this is you know,

1093
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: first time, first game opportunity. But it wasn't more like that.

1094
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: It was it was more about, you know, I'm gonna

1095
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 1: do my job. I'm gonna hope you know, the other

1096
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 1: ten guys out there, uh, you know, move the ball.

1097
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: And that's all I was really only focus on. It's

1098
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: just you know, production and positive plays and going down

1099
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 1: to scaring. I'm back and watch the the game on

1100
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: tape and you get in I think the third or

1101
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 1: fourth offensive play for the Bills, and you carried it.

1102
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 1: I think you got about three yards. He came to

1103
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 1: the sideline and there were no less than three or

1104
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 1: four guys came over and just gave you a little

1105
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 1: tap on the helmet after one play, one carry, and

1106
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 1: they were all I thought to myself, They're all saying him, Okay,

1107
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: you're here, settle down right. Was that part about what

1108
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: was going on? There. Um, yeah, they were just like mega,

1109
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 1: Shaw was good, you know, a keep good job, you know,

1110
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 1: good heart, running good to push the power. You know.

1111
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 1: It gave me a lot of confidence, you know, uh,

1112
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: you know, just to see other guys out there with

1113
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: my teammates, you know, encouraging me and knowing that hey,

1114
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 1: you know, you know we need you and uh and

1115
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: it just pushed me as the game went on. How

1116
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: did that change over the course of the game, Because

1117
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 1: it went from hey, nice job first carry to maya,

1118
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 1: we really need you. I mean, it had that communication

1119
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: that your interaction with your team, they had to think.

1120
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: They had to realize what was going on as well. Yeah,

1121
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: like they knew I was the last guy. And and

1122
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: the good thing about you know, you know that huddle

1123
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 1: is that you know, whoever's out there practice squad, whoever's here,

1124
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: we all and then for the same thing, you know,

1125
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: we all work together, We're on our team, whoever's out there,

1126
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 1: And you know they when I went the huddle, they

1127
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: brought me in and they made Charles was good. May

1128
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 1: Charles was calm, made Charles was playing my game. So

1129
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 1: you know, it's just you know the chemistry that we have,

1130
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: the culture that we have here in Buffalo. Let's start

1131
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 1: backing up a little bit, Keith and talk about your

1132
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,720
Speaker 1: path here to the Buffalo Bills. And as a youngster,

1133
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: your dad was in the Marines and you spent a

1134
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: lot of time growing up in Japan and Okinawa. Tell

1135
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 1: me about that. How was that? Um, it was an

1136
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: experience I would never forget. It was the time of

1137
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 1: my life where it made me blank out everything, you know,

1138
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 1: like today, all the you know, the racism and discuss

1139
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 1: it was a melting pot, you know, being on the

1140
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: military basis, it's one thing that you know, a lot

1141
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: of people don't understand. It's because you know, you know,

1142
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: going to a different country that you never are unfamiliar with.

1143
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 1: They speak a whole different language. But when you step

1144
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 1: on that base, you got Asian, black, white, Hispanic altogether.

1145
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: Knowing that we're the only Americans here, Yeah, but knowing

1146
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 1: that when you go outside of the base, it's you

1147
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 1: got to change everything, customs and everything. And it made me,

1148
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,959
Speaker 1: you know, be more open minded and be more open

1149
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: to everything around me. Did you like Japanese culture? And

1150
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 1: it's it's it's very interesting, you know, I'm I'm very

1151
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 1: big in the history. And one thing about okanala Is

1152
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: is a very historic you know, a battle of okanala

1153
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: you know, not battle before they try to invade um

1154
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:48,800
Speaker 1: Um Japan, the mainland before that. Iagima just all that

1155
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: storyline that you know I developed and learned over the

1156
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: time that made me understand it. Yeah. Yeah, that you

1157
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 1: said melting pot where you were all together on the

1158
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 1: American base in a foreign land. And how did that

1159
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: prepare you to be in an NFL locker room where

1160
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 1: you got guys from all over our own country? Um,

1161
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: you know it's it's a mixed bag of white black,

1162
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 1: You've got some own guys in the league, Hispanic guys

1163
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 1: in the league. How how did that? That must have

1164
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: prepared you pretty well to be you know for the

1165
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: locker room atmosphere of the NFL. Um Yeah, And and

1166
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: I actually did, you know, just really just thinking about it,

1167
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: you know, just all the change and like you know,

1168
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 1: when you go to a base, that's one change. But

1169
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 1: you know, you know, like me, you're not you know,

1170
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 1: establishing friends and having actual you know, you know childhood,

1171
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: you know experience, you know, developing that you know that

1172
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: you know that closeness. I never had that so like

1173
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 1: I always had to adapt to change. That's one thing

1174
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 1: I always had the adapt whatever happened, forget about it,

1175
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:56,720
Speaker 1: I got to adapt to it. So my dad always

1176
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:58,839
Speaker 1: used to say, either it's absolute or it's not at all.

1177
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 1: Either it's it's a it's a goad where you're all

1178
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 1: away or you're not or nothing all or nothing. So

1179
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 1: I just kept a mentality my whole life. And you know,

1180
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: my father is a big part of my life. And

1181
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: being over there in Ocannal, he left a lot, you know,

1182
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 1: he he you know, he served you know, couching for

1183
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 1: twenty eight years, all active you know, um and got

1184
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: another Apple tune. But like it's just like that drove me,

1185
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 1: you know, his hard work and my mom and everything

1186
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: drove me being over there and and just made me

1187
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 1: you know, you know, travel with it as I got

1188
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: knowing sure, you came back to the US, lived in Texas, right,

1189
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 1: went to high school in Texas, started it Oka home.

1190
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 1: I wound up in Texas, A and m Why did

1191
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: switch in the middle of there, Um, you know, just

1192
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 1: coaching change. A lot of reasons. I got hurt coaching change,

1193
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 1: you know, I wanted to start. There was a lot

1194
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 1: of reasons. And I felt like I wanted to take

1195
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,800
Speaker 1: the knowledge that I knew at OU and bringing it

1196
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 1: to a program that you know that needed development, young team,

1197
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 1: young coaches have you know, and uh And I went

1198
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: there and and you know, and studied out still talk

1199
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 1: to him and you know, and developing a culture that

1200
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 1: you know that can only continue, the only grow. And

1201
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:12,320
Speaker 1: I felt like I did that there my time that

1202
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: you've seen your year an A and M eleven touchdowns,

1203
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 1: really good production. Were you did you anticipately being drafted?

1204
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 1: Were you're surprised that you weren't drafted coming? Um? And

1205
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 1: I know, um, you know that wasn't you know my intent?

1206
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 1: You know? Um, it wasn't more of oh, I want

1207
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 1: to get drafted. It was more of I want my opportunity.

1208
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: So it was more of hard work. It was more

1209
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,919
Speaker 1: of not worrying about the drift process. It's not worried

1210
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 1: about the media, but just really grinding and really X

1211
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 1: and everything out, only care about the things that the

1212
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: Caribout and just working. So it's this culture that you

1213
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 1: moved into here in Buffalo. Is it something that you've

1214
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 1: recognized and you were obviously brought here to be a

1215
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 1: part of it, and it's it does it reflect what

1216
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: you're you've been looking for and the kind of thing

1217
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: you were trying to build the low level, Yes, sir,

1218
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: you know, and what Shan is throwing here is is

1219
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 1: you know, developing a family, of developing a culture and

1220
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 1: standard that you know that we all come together. We

1221
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: all want one thing and you know that's a championship.

1222
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 1: And one thing about me. I ain't never won a championship.

1223
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: I ain't never won anything. And you know, uh, and

1224
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 1: that's why I want to do and that's my goal,

1225
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 1: you know, as to win a championship with Thos running

1226
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 1: mckkeith for the rookie who got his first taste of

1227
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 1: the NFL and the regular season game against Detroit last week.

1228
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 1: Before last week when it looked like they might bring

1229
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 1: you up and play you, Brian Gable, the offensive coordinator,

1230
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 1: mentioned now he roots for you because of the way

1231
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: you practice. So what did you What do you think

1232
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 1: you put in front of those coaches during the you know,

1233
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: thirteen weeks that you spend on the practice squad. What

1234
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 1: were you showing them? What was your mindset during that um?

1235
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 1: It was it was more of not showing, but it

1236
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: was more proven to myself how I can escalate every

1237
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: day and my mindset every day there's one percent better

1238
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 1: every day, and not worried about what the coaches think,

1239
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 1: not worried about what everybody else thinks, but only worried

1240
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 1: about me. And my mom always told me, you have

1241
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 1: to worry about yourself before you worry about other people.

1242
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: You gotta love yourself before you love other people. So

1243
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 1: like the just those little lessons in life really, you know,

1244
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 1: guide me through this journey because it's hard. It's not

1245
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 1: easy being on the practice squad and seeing other guys

1246
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 1: play out that it's hard, But it's just the mental

1247
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 1: aspect of it that, you know, just the development of

1248
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 1: that really helped me along the way. You picked up

1249
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 1: a nickname during your time of the practice squad, right, Bullet, Yeah,

1250
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 1: what's that about? Um? When I first came here, it

1251
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 1: was rookie Mini Camp and Mike love uh plays d

1252
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: N and uh he kind of gave me the name,

1253
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,439
Speaker 1: kept calling me that, calling me that, and people, man,

1254
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 1: why are you why are you calling a bullet like

1255
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 1: you know, like his head shaped like a bullet. You know?

1256
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: Then you know then then uh sha, Yeah, I love

1257
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 1: being it like they they're like, man, you're too young

1258
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 1: to be bald. But you know they see the pictures

1259
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 1: in my head. But um, it's just you know, I

1260
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 1: like the nickname and you know it's unique, like I'll

1261
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: put the phrase with the you know, bullets kill, bullets

1262
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 1: hurt right, you know, you know I add a little

1263
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 1: bit more toughness to him about you know, Uh, since

1264
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 1: I've been here, I had the same name and everybody

1265
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: just tagged on good name running back. I actually really

1266
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 1: enjoy it. You know. I told him to stop calling

1267
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: me Keith and just calling me calling bullets so nice. Well, Keith,

1268
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 1: thanks that you're off to a good start. Maybe some

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Speaker 1: more playing time coming up this week. Thanks coming by

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Speaker 1: today with Let's talk about it. Thank you, We appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you Keith Ford, Bill's running Back joining us in

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Speaker 1: our side studio. We're back with more One does Live

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Speaker 1: from One Deals Drive on Buffalo Bulls Razing, Welcome back,

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Speaker 1: One Goal's line from one Bill's Driving Or Thanks again

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Speaker 1: to Keith Ford for joining us. Hope you enjoyed Danny Interview.

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01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 1: Got a text from a friend who or he says

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01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 1: he loves Keith Ford. He was a good game. Good

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01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 1: guy to talk to you. We could have. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: I had about twenty more questions for Keith Ford, I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you, because I found it to be really interesting,

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01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 1: really is. And yet we were up against the start

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Speaker 1: of our show. So we did that. Yeah, we did

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Speaker 1: that interview at like eleven forty five or eleven thirty five,

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Speaker 1: I'll see eleven forty And then we got it done

1285
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 1: and we're looking at each other. It's like five till twelve.

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01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 1: We're across the building and we're five minutes from being

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Speaker 1: on the air. We had to scramble. Or if you

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01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 1: if you heard the start of the show, you'll you'll

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01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 1: realize that's why we were a little bit. You don't

1290
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 1: want to see how the sausage is made? Yeah, really do?

1291
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 1: You really don't want to gets done, but it gets done. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we've had a good show. We were almost we almost

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01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 1: had a fork stuck in us today. Yeah, we were

1294
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 1: that close. Ted Washington was great. I got Bucky Brooks

1295
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 1: another form another form of Buffalo Bill coming up in

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Speaker 1: the two. Team mate of mine. Yeah, it's it's alumni

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01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 1: day for seat cancer in the build. Some great teammates.

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Speaker 1: You did good thing too. Because like me, we never

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Speaker 1: won a game. No, but I mean it wasn't just

1300
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 1: great in terms of the football playing. You hit characters

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01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 1: like Ted Washington, you know what I mean, characters with character. Yes, yeah,

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01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 1: it was. They were a fun group, not just because

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01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 1: they won either, They were a fun group. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: hope we're having fun today. We're here until three o'clock today.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow we'll dig deep into the New England Patriots, and

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01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 1: we want to know from you about this matchup the

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Speaker 1: Bills and the Patriots. It's a Twitter question, not a pole,

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01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:24,959
Speaker 1: but we asked the question. So, the Bills just played

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Speaker 1: the Patriots October twenty ninth, essentially two months ago, right,

1310
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 1: lost that game, didn't play well, especially on offense. Lost

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Speaker 1: that game twenty six to five. I don't know from

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Speaker 1: you or twenty five to six. I mean it's a

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01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:38,919
Speaker 1: crazy score. I don't know if you are the Bills

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Speaker 1: better now than they were two months ago when they

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Speaker 1: played the Patriots here at home. I think they are.

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Speaker 1: You probably do two. And if you think that way,

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Speaker 1: let us know. How do you think they're better? You

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Speaker 1: can give us a call. We'd love to talk down

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Speaker 1: the air. Eight oh three oh five fifty and twelve

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Speaker 1: three one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty,

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Speaker 1: or you can send in a tweet to respond. Are

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Speaker 1: the Bills better than they were two months ago when

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Speaker 1: they lost to the Patriots. They didn't look. They lost

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01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 1: by nineteen points, but as I said, there was a

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01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 1: late fourth quarter pick six by Devin mccordy that gave

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Speaker 1: him the margin of victory. It was twelve to six

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01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 1: at halftime. Patriots got an eighty five yard scoring drive

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01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 1: that began late in the third. They scored on a

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Speaker 1: James White one yard touchdown run. Brady against the Bills, Steve,

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01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 1: I mean, say what you want. I know he's great

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01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 1: against the Bills. Though he completed well. He in a

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Speaker 1: quarterback rating of eighty six percent against the Bills. He

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01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 1: was okay. He completed let me see here, twenty nine

1334
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 1: to forty five passing in that game. They sacked him twice.

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Speaker 1: They aired it out and then went into the game.

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Speaker 1: Remember they were running it with Cordarrel Patterson. He was

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01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 1: their leading rusher ten carries thirty eight yards. They only

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01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 1: averaged three yards per carry. The point I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: make here is that the Patriots did not dominate the

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Speaker 1: Bills in that Monday night game. They beat him by nineteen.

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Speaker 1: They got to pick six touchdown at the end, But

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Speaker 1: at halftime the Bills were only down by six. I

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01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 1: remember at halftime there was Yeah, they were down by

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Speaker 1: six at the half, or was it nine to six

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01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 1: at halftime? Anyway, it wasn't that much of a deficit

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01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 1: at halftime. Third quarter the Patriots embarked on that long

1347
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 1: scoring drive. Yeah, it was nine to three at halftime.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm trying to say here. This score sheet

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Speaker 1: is wrong. Yeah, nine to three and a half time. Yeah,

1350
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 1: boring game. It was boring until they Yeah, but rightfully. So,

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01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 1: this is the thing about this game, and we've given

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01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 1: you a handful of reasons to be optimistic. The thing

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01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 1: about this game. Going into this game, the Bills have

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01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 1: struggled to put pressure on the past in the last

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01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 1: few weeks. They haven't gotten very many hits, gotten zero sacks.

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Speaker 1: That's got to change. That's gotta change. I think Tom

1357
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 1: Brady's the key, that still is the key for the Patriots.

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01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 1: You've got to take him off the spot, and it's

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01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 1: been difficult for the Bills to do that against anybody

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01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 1: in the last few weeks and they've got to change that.

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Speaker 1: We've also got some people chiming in on Twitter about

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Speaker 1: our Twitter poll and from Dinah, she says, yes, the

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Speaker 1: Bills are better now. Josh Allen has improved, the receivers

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Speaker 1: have gotten better than the line is not as bad.

1365
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:02,919
Speaker 1: The defense has lost some key players, but they're still

1366
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:05,919
Speaker 1: but they are stepping up to fill the gaps. They're

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01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 1: not where that they They're not where I'd like them

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01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 1: to be yet, but they are much better and it

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01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 1: is a different team. But the Patriots are going to

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Speaker 1: be a little different too now. We just had a

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Speaker 1: tweet yesterday and from from one of our friends who

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Speaker 1: tweeted out he was in Boston and he was listening

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Speaker 1: to WI which is the flagship of the of the Patriots,

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Speaker 1: and he said they're melting down over there about how

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Speaker 1: the Patriots have lost two in a row and how

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01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 1: they're not playing very well. They're they're in full panic

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01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 1: mode over there over the loss of two games. It's

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Speaker 1: a much different conversation for them. They are not in

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Speaker 1: a position to have a buy going into the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: They have never they have not made the under Bill Belichick.

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Speaker 1: I do they have not made the Super Bowl going

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01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 1: by way of the wildcard weekend, they haven't been able

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01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 1: to do it. That looks like that's where they're going

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01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 1: to be this year, and they are up in arms

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Speaker 1: in Boston over it. There haven't been playing well the

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01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 1: last few week but remember they got beat by the

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01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 1: flukiest of plays in Miami at the end, and then

1388
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 1: they did get beat by a really good Pittsburgh Steeler

1389
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 1: team on the road. So come on, the Patriots are

1390
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Speaker 1: good football team and they're gonna be tough to beat

1391
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 1: in in Foxburg. Yeah, six and o at home this

1392
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 1: year they even lost at home. From the tweet sheet

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Speaker 1: from Nick Blait and answer to our question, are the

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01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 1: Bills better now than they were the last time they

1395
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 1: played New England? Nick Blake says, yes, Patriots will have

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01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 1: no answer for Josh Allen's legs. He'll run for over

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Speaker 1: one hundred yards again and beat New England. That's an

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01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 1: interesting point, Nick, Thank you for sending that in. Is

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01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 1: that what the Bills want? Did they go into a

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Speaker 1: game thinking, let's run Josh Allen all day and beat

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Speaker 1: the Patriots this way? I don't think so. I think

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01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 1: they love the fact that they have the option to

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01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 1: do that. Steve that they have the option to call

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01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:51,479
Speaker 1: some runs, some quarterback draws, some some straight up called

1405
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 1: runs for the quarterback. But I don't think you want

1406
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 1: to go into the game planning on that, regardless of

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01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 1: how healthy your running backs are. What I think it's

1408
01:06:57,160 --> 01:07:00,040
Speaker 1: weird situation. I think the Bills know they've got that

1409
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:02,280
Speaker 1: in their back pocket. I don't think the Bills are

1410
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 1: going to go in there with I don't even think

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01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 1: they'll go in there with five plays. Maybe they will,

1412
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 1: but they're not gonna they're gonna call five runs for Josh.

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01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 1: They're not gonna call those quarterback sneak three. I don't

1414
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 1: know if they do it, call any of them, maybe

1415
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 1: some run pass options, RPOs maybe, I don't know. But

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Speaker 1: I think it's weird for the Patriots because they know

1417
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 1: the Ultimately the Bills want Josh to stand back there

1418
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 1: and throw it and learn how to play the position

1419
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 1: and be that. They want their offense to look like

1420
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Speaker 1: that because that's the way the league is structured. You

1421
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 1: want a quarterback, then do that. But when Josh Allen

1422
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 1: breaks off the page and starts to create things by

1423
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 1: running around back there looking for things, that he should

1424
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 1: have beaten the Miami Dolphins with the play off the

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01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 1: page at the end to Charles Clay that they couldn't

1426
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 1: you know, the throw wasn't good enough and Clay couldn't

1427
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 1: break on the ball well enough to catch it. Otherwise

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01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 1: the Bills win that game. But that's the kind of

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01:07:56,800 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 1: play that it is almost impossible to prepare for as

1430
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 1: a defense. Now, certainly the Patriots, as we said earlier

1431
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 1: in the show, they're gonna do what the Detroit Lions

1432
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 1: did on a number of occasions. I think they're not

1433
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 1: gonna rush Josh Allen. They're gonna keep him worry at

1434
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 1: They're gonna let him stand back there as long as

1435
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 1: he wants and try and make throws into a bunch

1436
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 1: of guys drop it into coverage. They don't want him

1437
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:23,599
Speaker 1: to go off the page and start running around because

1438
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 1: quite frankly, you can't. Once he breaks into the secondary

1439
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 1: of the Patriots, if he slides, nobody can touch him.

1440
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 1: There's no reason for him not to do it. There's

1441
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 1: no recourse that there's never a chance for a good

1442
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 1: play by the Patriot defense. If Josh Allen runs off

1443
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 1: for twenty five yards and then slides, they have no

1444
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 1: shot at getting anything out of that play, whereas if

1445
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 1: he throws it, they can get a tipped interception or

1446
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 1: an interception or an incomplete pass or any one of

1447
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:52,640
Speaker 1: a number of things. So it's hard to prepare for

1448
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 1: quarterback who runs when it's not a called run. I

1449
01:08:57,439 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 1: think that's really scary for defensive coordinator. Yeah, what do

1450
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 1: you think are the bill is better now than they

1451
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:04,759
Speaker 1: were eight weeks ago when they lost to the Patriots.

1452
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 1: Give us a call. We'll discuss eight three fifty and

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Speaker 1: toll free one eight five fifty two five fifty on

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Speaker 1: the line, Tom and Buffalo. Go ahead, Tom, Welcome to

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01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 1: the show, afternoon, guys. Hi, Hey, I think the defense

1456
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 1: is getting a lot more solid the top five, just

1457
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 1: like we always said they would be, and believe it

1458
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 1: or not, receivers are coming along too, but they're still

1459
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 1: not getting a lot of completions to them. I think

1460
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 1: the biggest difference is the old line because they're they're

1461
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:38,760
Speaker 1: not holding the blocks long enough for Josh to really

1462
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 1: stand on the pocketback there all the time. If they

1463
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 1: could hold the blocks, then Josh could do a lot

1464
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 1: better there. But they are opening up the gaps for

1465
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 1: him to run. Well, here's the thing, Tom, and I

1466
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 1: agree with you to a certain extent, but I think

1467
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 1: there's no question in this last game you could see

1468
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 1: it when you watch you know, the film, the Detroit

1469
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 1: Lions weren't rushing Josh, so he did have a lot

1470
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:05,280
Speaker 1: of time to stand back there on occasion. Now, at

1471
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 1: certain times he didn't, but a lot of times he did,

1472
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:09,560
Speaker 1: much more so that I think than any games in

1473
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:11,760
Speaker 1: the last month or so where teams were trying to

1474
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 1: get him on the ground. I don't think the Detroit

1475
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 1: Lions had in their game plan to sack Josh Allen.

1476
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 1: They wanted him to stand back there and try and

1477
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:21,559
Speaker 1: beat him by throwing the football, by finding a guy open.

1478
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 1: They thought that the receivers of the Buffalo Bills weren't

1479
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:27,720
Speaker 1: good enough to get separation from the Detroit defenders, and

1480
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 1: they thought they'd get some turnovers that way, or at

1481
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 1: least some incomplete passes that way. So that's why there

1482
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:35,600
Speaker 1: are times when the Detroit Lions only rushed for and

1483
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 1: if you noticed the end, the defensive ends wouldn't like

1484
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 1: run around behind Josh. They would run up to the

1485
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:44,559
Speaker 1: same level as Josh and then stop and they wouldn't

1486
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:47,080
Speaker 1: try and come off the edge like that. And that's

1487
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 1: indicative of a defense that just wants to keep a

1488
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 1: quarterback right where he is on the pocket and dare

1489
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 1: him to throw it. And I think that's what the

1490
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions did, held him to two touchdowns. Let's talk

1491
01:10:57,360 --> 01:11:00,200
Speaker 1: about defense for a second, and the caller brought it up,

1492
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:04,679
Speaker 1: and you talking about it. In virtually every defensive category,

1493
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:07,680
Speaker 1: the Bills are better than the New England Patriots this year.

1494
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 1: I think that might surprise some people's team. I mean,

1495
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the stand. We know the Bills are

1496
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:13,560
Speaker 1: number two overall in defense, and we've talked about that

1497
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 1: a lot last week when they were in number one.

1498
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:18,639
Speaker 1: What does that mean yardage allowed? Okay, they're number two overall.

1499
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:21,879
Speaker 1: The Patriots are twenty third overall. That's a big difference

1500
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:25,839
Speaker 1: New England's defense. The Bills are the tenth best rushing defense.

1501
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 1: Patriots are the seventeenth. The Bills are the number one

1502
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 1: past defense in the league. The Patriots are the twenty

1503
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 1: third percent had interception really the only defensive category where

1504
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 1: the Patriots are better than the Bills. They are six

1505
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 1: in the NFL and percentage of interceptions, the Bills are tenth.

1506
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 1: A little bit of difference there. Sacks per playing the

1507
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:47,559
Speaker 1: Bills are nineteenth in the NFL. Not great, a little

1508
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 1: bit less than the average Patriots thirty first, second to last.

1509
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 1: They don't get a lot of sacks. That tells you something, right,

1510
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 1: First downs of game, the Bills are better. Third down

1511
01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:00,960
Speaker 1: percentage of Bills are better. Virtually every defensive category the

1512
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 1: Bills deep into this season, the Bills are doing better

1513
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 1: than the New Wingland Patriots points per game, that's the

1514
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 1: defensive category. I guess the Patriots thirteenth in the league.

1515
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 1: Bills are eighteenth. But you gotta pay attention to that, right,

1516
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 1: We're not talking about four or five games of evidence here.

1517
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 1: We're talking about fourteen games in the Bills lead the

1518
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 1: Patriots in virtually every defensive category. And that's only part

1519
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:24,600
Speaker 1: of the game. And the game is really going to

1520
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 1: be about Tom Brady versus Josh Allen. But the Patriots

1521
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 1: defense is nothing to be afraid of. And now the

1522
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:32,640
Speaker 1: Bills are in a different spot than they were two

1523
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 1: months ago because they went into that game without any

1524
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:38,800
Speaker 1: offensive weapons. Right, they started Derek Anderson, they didn't have

1525
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 1: Robert Foster active. Those are two major pieces of what's

1526
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:44,759
Speaker 1: become whatever you want to think of the Buffalo offense

1527
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 1: that they didn't not even have in the lineup against

1528
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 1: New England two months ago. That's a difference, like well,

1529
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 1: and I don't know what it's like in New England,

1530
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 1: don't know what Bill Belichick's actually telling Tom Brady or

1531
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:57,920
Speaker 1: relaying to his team, But no, this, when they're watching

1532
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:01,719
Speaker 1: the Bills on film, they're seeing a really good defense.

1533
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:05,760
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to play well to beat They're gonna

1534
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 1: have to play well against this team to beat it.

1535
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 1: They know it. The Bills defense is for real. And

1536
01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:13,479
Speaker 1: when you're number two overall and overall defense, you've got

1537
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 1: the numbers of the Bills due that comes from a

1538
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 1: lot of guys doing the right thing. This last game

1539
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 1: against the Detroit Lions, they gave up thirteen points, they

1540
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 1: gave up two touchdowns over the course of four quarters,

1541
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 1: and in the last two and a half quarters, they

1542
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 1: didn't give up anything. They didn't even get they got into,

1543
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:34,840
Speaker 1: they got into across the fifty once and they missed

1544
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 1: a field goal. That's a really good effective defense and

1545
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:41,720
Speaker 1: they're doing it the way Sean McDermott wants to do it.

1546
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 1: They're doing it with unselfish play, very disciplined play, guys

1547
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:50,640
Speaker 1: playing well and may and really good tackling. And it

1548
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 1: sounds crazy, but I've seen this from the booth as

1549
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 1: a CBS analyst doing these games all over the league.

1550
01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:58,880
Speaker 1: I've seen great defenses and I've seen bad ones. I've

1551
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 1: seen mediocre ones. I seen teams that were just barely

1552
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 1: sure of being a great defense. And the only difference,

1553
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:09,799
Speaker 1: the most marked difference there is is tackling. The first

1554
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 1: guy to the football gets the football on the ground,

1555
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:16,840
Speaker 1: it's tackled. They don't break tackles, they don't mis tackles,

1556
01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:18,599
Speaker 1: they don't have misstackles. They don't get and they don't

1557
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:21,040
Speaker 1: give up explosive plays. And the Bills don't haven't given

1558
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 1: up any deep balls they you know, well this last

1559
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:29,639
Speaker 1: week when they gave it up to Gala Day, even

1560
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 1: those didn't go for touchdowns. You know, they keep them

1561
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:35,480
Speaker 1: short of the end zone. And that's and it was unusual,

1562
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:37,760
Speaker 1: you know, it was unusual to see Tredavious White to

1563
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 1: have a ball go over his head. And even Zo

1564
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:41,640
Speaker 1: you said it, Murph, and I saw it too. A

1565
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:44,559
Speaker 1: couple of really good throws and really good catches. Right,

1566
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:49,600
Speaker 1: It's not like Tredevious White thinking there's not you know,

1567
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 1: there's not too many quarterback receiver combinations. Maybe a handful

1568
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:54,560
Speaker 1: that could have made those plays against him. But but

1569
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 1: the point is the Bills haven't been made at a

1570
01:14:57,360 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 1: habit of giving up plays over the top. They haven't

1571
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 1: given it. They don't get up big, long runs, they

1572
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:04,040
Speaker 1: don't give up long pass plays. For the most part,

1573
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:06,680
Speaker 1: they're a tough defense to move the football on. And

1574
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 1: you can bet that that's what the reason they're at

1575
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 1: the top of the league. That's why the Patriots are

1576
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 1: looking at him, going, then, this is not going to

1577
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 1: be an easy game. It's not gonna We may not

1578
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 1: score thirty five forty points. Now they may, but this

1579
01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 1: is a defense that you go in thinking, man, we've

1580
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:21,120
Speaker 1: just got to get to twenty points and hope that

1581
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 1: are you know that they can't score here's what it

1582
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 1: will come. And this sounds like a Twitter poll for

1583
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:27,560
Speaker 1: later in the week. To make a note of this,

1584
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:29,600
Speaker 1: at least a mental note of the Steve and I

1585
01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:31,800
Speaker 1: write this down, No, no, how many points of the

1586
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:33,880
Speaker 1: Bills need to beat New England this week. Look, they

1587
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 1: come into the game averaging fifteen points per game. They

1588
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 1: only got fourteen last week and beat the Detroit Lions.

1589
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 1: You would think they're going to need more than that,

1590
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 1: considerably more than that to beat this Patriots team Tom Brady, etc.

1591
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:46,559
Speaker 1: But what do you think we'll talk about it as

1592
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:48,640
Speaker 1: a week goes along. How many? I mean, first of all,

1593
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:51,719
Speaker 1: are they capable of scoring twenty four, twenty seven points

1594
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:54,559
Speaker 1: in a game? The Bills it's been hard to do, right,

1595
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 1: the average fifteen points per game? And would that do

1596
01:15:57,160 --> 01:15:59,559
Speaker 1: it against this New England offense the way the Bills

1597
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 1: defense is play then that sounds like a good Twitter pall,

1598
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:03,920
Speaker 1: it does. I mean the Bills held them, but it

1599
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 1: was at home. It was on a Monday night, you know,

1600
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 1: and they had them in twenty five. Yeah, that may

1601
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:15,400
Speaker 1: be below that's probably below their average. Right at home,

1602
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 1: they're gonna be much better. Here's the thing about New England.

1603
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:22,519
Speaker 1: At home, for whatever reason, they and it's indicative of

1604
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 1: them even on the road, they just don't make enough

1605
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 1: mistakes for you to win the game. On those mistakes

1606
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:31,599
Speaker 1: they may make, they can play more mistake free football

1607
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 1: than most teams out there, And I'm not saying I

1608
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:36,120
Speaker 1: know how you know which guy's not stepping the right

1609
01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 1: way or anything like I'm saying. They just don't beat

1610
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:41,760
Speaker 1: themselves very much, and they do it even less at home.

1611
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 1: So you've got to You've got to go in known

1612
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:48,959
Speaker 1: that you're gonna have to play really disciplined, precise football

1613
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:50,840
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball, all three sides of

1614
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 1: the football to beat them, and most teams can't go

1615
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 1: in there and do that. That's really hard to do. Um.

1616
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:58,840
Speaker 1: It's really rare that you see New England make a

1617
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:01,400
Speaker 1: glaring mistake in their own building to get some beat.

1618
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:03,720
Speaker 1: One of the best things the Bills did two days

1619
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 1: ago against Detroit didn't turn it over. It didn't turn

1620
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:08,040
Speaker 1: over turn over. That was huge and it was a

1621
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:10,680
Speaker 1: one point game. Yeah, neither team turned it over. One

1622
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 1: turnover could have made a difference in line. That would

1623
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 1: have been the difference, you know, And that's kind of

1624
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:18,639
Speaker 1: where you sit. If if Josh can continue to throw

1625
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 1: it away when he gets at play field position, certainly,

1626
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:25,559
Speaker 1: if you can get a turnover from the New England Patriots,

1627
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 1: that makes an enormous difference. But if you can win

1628
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 1: the turnover battle in their building. That's a huge plus.

1629
01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:36,880
Speaker 1: Patriots average scoring twenty seven points per game, so they

1630
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:39,599
Speaker 1: were just a little bit of below their average when

1631
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:41,360
Speaker 1: they won here two months ago. Are the Bills better

1632
01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:44,320
Speaker 1: now then that game? That's a discussion topic on the table.

1633
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:47,840
Speaker 1: Let's take a call here from Kevin in Hamburg. Go ahead, Kevin,

1634
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:51,200
Speaker 1: you're on the air. Hi, How you doing? Okay? Um? Yeah,

1635
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:53,400
Speaker 1: I think they're better. We know where Josh Allen is

1636
01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:57,560
Speaker 1: pretty much going. Last time, we had backup problems that

1637
01:17:57,640 --> 01:17:59,800
Speaker 1: we had the last time. You know, this guy would stink,

1638
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 1: I would stink. Yeah, I think we're a little bit

1639
01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:04,720
Speaker 1: better than the pants are a little bit mur better

1640
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:07,720
Speaker 1: than what we were the last time. And I say

1641
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 1: one more thing, Yeah, go ahead. Remember I would want

1642
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:13,920
Speaker 1: to remarkably, you're ruining false yesterday about the Bears. I

1643
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:15,720
Speaker 1: don't think. I think you're right. They're not going to

1644
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 1: be in the super Bowl this year, but they keep

1645
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 1: up with the defense. I think they could be there

1646
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 1: next year. And I think they're gonna rule that division

1647
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:25,560
Speaker 1: in the next couple of years, and the packers and

1648
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:28,680
Speaker 1: papers are gonna go down the toilet. Yeah that's a

1649
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:30,720
Speaker 1: good that's a good observation our Twitter pole, I'm not

1650
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:33,280
Speaker 1: a Twitter poll our true false yesterday is it time

1651
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:36,120
Speaker 1: to start talking about a Bear's Super Bowl? And we

1652
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:39,200
Speaker 1: both said it was false, Kevin, But you're right. They

1653
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:41,559
Speaker 1: are good. They seem to be a really good football team.

1654
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:45,479
Speaker 1: Certainly their defense carries them. And I hate to say

1655
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 1: this because everybody you know, poo poo's this thing. But

1656
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:52,720
Speaker 1: they play in Chicago, right on Lake Michigan. It's cold, yeah,

1657
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:55,760
Speaker 1: And if they can get a home playoff game, they're

1658
01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 1: tough to beat in there. With a good defense, They're

1659
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 1: really tough to beat. Much like a Buffalo team playing

1660
01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:05,599
Speaker 1: here in January with a really good defense, it's tough

1661
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:08,200
Speaker 1: to beat, particularly for the other teams who have to

1662
01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 1: come in here. A New Orleans Saints team, if they

1663
01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 1: had to go to Chicago instead of playing in the

1664
01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:14,799
Speaker 1: Dome down in New Orleans, that makes an enormous difference.

1665
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 1: The Miami Dolphins coming to Buffalo in a playoff game

1666
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 1: in January makes an enormous difference. It's a huge home

1667
01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:22,640
Speaker 1: field advantage. It's the same thing for New England. You

1668
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 1: go into that place in January, it's tough to win.

1669
01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 1: You got a good team, you're playing against and the

1670
01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 1: conditions are not what you're used to. You know that.

1671
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 1: I remember I covered as a sideline reporter for CBS.

1672
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:34,640
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers went in there with Norv Turner as his

1673
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 1: head coach into Foxborough. They almost beat those guys, But

1674
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 1: it was a big factor how cold it was. It

1675
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:43,559
Speaker 1: was a clear, calm day, but it was a factor

1676
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:45,160
Speaker 1: for those guys coming up from at that time they

1677
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 1: were San Diego. It makes a difference. And Chicago sitting

1678
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 1: there with a solid run game in Tarik Co and yeah,

1679
01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 1: they're going to be in the mix for a while

1680
01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:58,439
Speaker 1: in that division. You look at Detroit, Detroit never wins,

1681
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:03,040
Speaker 1: Green Bay's looking for a new head coach, and Aaron

1682
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:08,799
Speaker 1: Rodgers is fourteen years deep, and Mina Minnesota who Minnesota

1683
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:11,760
Speaker 1: is sitting there, who's underachieved this year? And you know,

1684
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 1: but that's a team that looks pretty good for a

1685
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 1: year two. So yeah, Chicago sitting in a nice spot

1686
01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:18,519
Speaker 1: this year. Bears are the currently the third seed in

1687
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 1: the NFC. There's seven and one at home this year,

1688
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:23,240
Speaker 1: which goes to Steve's point about how tough it is

1689
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:25,519
Speaker 1: to win it. Soldier Field, What about the Bills are

1690
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 1: they better now than the last time they played in

1691
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 1: New England? On the tweet sheet from Jason Crandelle, definitely

1692
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:33,040
Speaker 1: better now. Our defense is playing about the same. Losing

1693
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:35,639
Speaker 1: Milano hurts a little. That's a good point. He goes

1694
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 1: on to say, the offense is better. Anderson was here

1695
01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 1: for less than three weeks. Then, I think you started

1696
01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:42,840
Speaker 1: one and a half weeks in World Days. We trimmed

1697
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:44,840
Speaker 1: the fat at wide receiver and brought in some speed,

1698
01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 1: and Alan has showing a lot of improvement from his

1699
01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:49,559
Speaker 1: first few starts. But it's good points, all of them. Jason,

1700
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:53,200
Speaker 1: your point about Milano is significant, and to this point,

1701
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:56,400
Speaker 1: not only did the Bills not commit a turnover against

1702
01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:58,720
Speaker 1: the Traite, they didn't get a takeaway against Detroite, and

1703
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:00,920
Speaker 1: that was kind of Milano's special, right, that's what he did,

1704
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:02,800
Speaker 1: I think, and they don't have him. Yeah, if you're

1705
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 1: gonna throw darts at what the defense has done this year,

1706
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 1: it's herler hard to do because they're as good as

1707
01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:09,560
Speaker 1: anybody in the league. But that's the difference in the

1708
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:12,960
Speaker 1: team this year from last year is this defense didn't

1709
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:14,639
Speaker 1: get as many turnovers as they did a year ago,

1710
01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:16,920
Speaker 1: and they're not getting as many sacks, but man, oh man,

1711
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 1: are they hard to move the football off yet? From

1712
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 1: Bernie Davis, I'm a Bill's fan marooned in Massachusetts. Two things.

1713
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 1: The Bill's Jets game was on TV here and my

1714
01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:30,800
Speaker 1: New England buddies commented on how Josh is the real

1715
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:35,840
Speaker 1: deal after Pittsburgh. The local media is schizophrenic. Is this

1716
01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:38,880
Speaker 1: game the one that marks the start of a new

1717
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:42,960
Speaker 1: competitive AFC East? The lid's coming off in New England?

1718
01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:46,559
Speaker 1: They are so afraid that, And I think for all

1719
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:48,400
Speaker 1: of the you know, we joke about it here about

1720
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:51,479
Speaker 1: you know, I called I called Bill Belichick Darth Vader

1721
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:53,519
Speaker 1: earlier in the week, that kind of thing. But you know,

1722
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:58,120
Speaker 1: we've about the cloud that New England has become over

1723
01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:00,120
Speaker 1: the rest of the AFC East, and I think we

1724
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:02,280
Speaker 1: talk about it. How about listen, Bill Belichick's in his

1725
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:04,720
Speaker 1: late sixties, He's gonna be sixty seven this next year.

1726
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:08,599
Speaker 1: And Tom Brady is it seems like he's been playing

1727
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:10,600
Speaker 1: since the late eighties in that team, right, I mean,

1728
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:13,840
Speaker 1: he's been there forever, and I think we hear saying, yeah,

1729
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:15,880
Speaker 1: it is coming to a close. Tom Brady's not the

1730
01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:17,519
Speaker 1: same quarterback he was. I think if any of you

1731
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 1: saw the Pittsburgh game this week, he looks like a

1732
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:23,360
Speaker 1: different quarterback than he has been during the tenure here

1733
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:26,280
Speaker 1: in New England. Bill Belichick's you know, is how long

1734
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:28,960
Speaker 1: is he going to push it? They kept Josh McDaniels

1735
01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:31,640
Speaker 1: because they promised him ostensibly that he was going to

1736
01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:33,840
Speaker 1: be the heir apparent to Bill Belichick, so he didn't

1737
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:37,200
Speaker 1: take a job. So you think maybe on the horizon

1738
01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:38,720
Speaker 1: it's going to come all of us out here and

1739
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:42,160
Speaker 1: every place else. Well, it seems like all the fans

1740
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:44,920
Speaker 1: in New England can feel it too, I hope you

1741
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:47,639
Speaker 1: know what I mean. The last point that Bernie makes

1742
01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 1: her I find fascinating and I think it's a fascinating

1743
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 1: study of where Bill's fans heads are at right now.

1744
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 1: And he says, is this game the one that marks

1745
01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:59,400
Speaker 1: the start of a new competitive afcast? Look, we all

1746
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:02,080
Speaker 1: hope that we've all been waiting for that for years now.

1747
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:05,640
Speaker 1: This to say that this an it's a question. So

1748
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:07,800
Speaker 1: that's good, Bernie. It is a question. I have the

1749
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:09,840
Speaker 1: same question. Right. All of us are like, is this

1750
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:12,439
Speaker 1: the one? Maybe the Bills don't even win, but maybe

1751
01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:15,800
Speaker 1: they just play and play well and make it close,

1752
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:18,560
Speaker 1: and you know, force the Patriots, who are going to

1753
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:21,280
Speaker 1: be super desperate, force them to make plays at the

1754
01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:22,960
Speaker 1: end to win it. And then we can walk away

1755
01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 1: and say, well, they lost to the Patriots again, but

1756
01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:28,000
Speaker 1: you can see the tide has shifted. Would that be enough?

1757
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 1: You'd rather get to win, obviously, But I think Bernie

1758
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:33,559
Speaker 1: echoes what a lot of people are thinking. Like, if

1759
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 1: you're paying attention, you're not paying any attention to the

1760
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:40,240
Speaker 1: old narrative, which was the bills at New England. Oh well,

1761
01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 1: we'll get down there and take car lumps. If you're

1762
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:44,719
Speaker 1: paying attention to where these teams are at, it's different.

1763
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:47,559
Speaker 1: It's different, right, Am I overselling it? Tell me different?

1764
01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:50,559
Speaker 1: It is different. If I'm going too far, just give

1765
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:53,320
Speaker 1: me a no, no, no, no, you're you're there. That's

1766
01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:56,120
Speaker 1: what makes this game interesting. But forever. But believe me,

1767
01:23:56,800 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 1: some one thing that has not changed New England still

1768
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 1: the yardstick. Yes, absolutely, But for the first time in

1769
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:07,599
Speaker 1: a while, you're pretty optimistic about how you're gonna measure

1770
01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 1: up even if you don't beat them. Well, I think

1771
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:12,160
Speaker 1: this is a team that's good enough to hit him

1772
01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:14,200
Speaker 1: in the mouth. In their own build out, and I

1773
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:17,200
Speaker 1: think they're gonna I think there'll be like that will

1774
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:19,880
Speaker 1: start to be a big storm cloud looming on the

1775
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 1: horizon of New England. Knowing that Buffalo's got this this

1776
01:24:24,240 --> 01:24:26,439
Speaker 1: guy and this defense and this coach and this program

1777
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:29,360
Speaker 1: going down here. That's pretty darn good. I think that's

1778
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:31,760
Speaker 1: fun to think about it. It is fun, all right. Look,

1779
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:33,400
Speaker 1: if we're going too far, if you're listening, won't to

1780
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:35,759
Speaker 1: a far give us a call. Hey, look well, invitation

1781
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 1: slapped me across the face. If you think we're pushing

1782
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:40,320
Speaker 1: too hard on this. I'm not saying they're gonna win.

1783
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:44,080
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're the Patriots are done. I'm saying,

1784
01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:47,439
Speaker 1: as as the guy on the tweet sheet said, question,

1785
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:49,400
Speaker 1: is this the game that kind of people are gonna

1786
01:24:49,439 --> 01:24:51,120
Speaker 1: look back at three years from now and say that

1787
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:52,920
Speaker 1: was the game where we knew the Bills could play

1788
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:54,760
Speaker 1: with New England, that New England was maybe ready to

1789
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:57,439
Speaker 1: shut it down. It's I'm asking that question. The bottom

1790
01:24:57,520 --> 01:25:00,760
Speaker 1: line is this murph this game feels different. It does,

1791
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 1: but maybe it's just in the run up. Are we

1792
01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:06,320
Speaker 1: may all right? I'm drinking, I've got it, I've got

1793
01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:07,760
Speaker 1: the cup here and I am drinking the kool a,

1794
01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 1: But you know, still it Uh, it is fun to

1795
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 1: think about and the talent on our team and the

1796
01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:15,920
Speaker 1: changes that they've made. And some of the guys on

1797
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:19,439
Speaker 1: the tweet sheet bring it up as well. Uh, you know.

1798
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:23,040
Speaker 1: They it's a new offense. They had Derek Anderson under

1799
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:24,519
Speaker 1: center the last time after he was here for just

1800
01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 1: eleven days. They've added speed, cleared the decks for these

1801
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:30,240
Speaker 1: young wide receivers who have started to flourish now with

1802
01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:33,600
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. Josh Allen is playing with more and more confidence.

1803
01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 1: Brian day Bole is still done a lot of really

1804
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:42,519
Speaker 1: good things as offensive coordinator, being creative enough, um, and

1805
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:46,240
Speaker 1: if you can get maybe a little healthier at running back. Hey,

1806
01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 1: you got You know, there's a lot of things that

1807
01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:50,320
Speaker 1: make this game a lot of fun to think about

1808
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:52,120
Speaker 1: it and to look forward to. It's gonna be fun.

1809
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:53,640
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a fun week to talk about it too.

1810
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:56,280
Speaker 1: We'll do more. They may get beat thirty eight exactly.

1811
01:25:56,520 --> 01:25:58,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. Don't wait because I'll tell you what. Yeah,

1812
01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:01,240
Speaker 1: because I'll tell you what if you think, because I'll

1813
01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:04,400
Speaker 1: tell you what They're going to new England to play

1814
01:26:04,439 --> 01:26:06,320
Speaker 1: New England and they're six and oh on the season

1815
01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:10,439
Speaker 1: in their building. Yeah yeah, So there you go. We're

1816
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:12,400
Speaker 1: gonna take a break here, we're gonna talk more about this.

1817
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:14,640
Speaker 1: You are welcome to join us eight three fifty and

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01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:17,759
Speaker 1: twell three one eight eight by fifty two five fifty.

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01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:20,000
Speaker 1: And if you're looking at the builds, you should make

1820
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:22,160
Speaker 1: note of the fact that they're getting production and playing

1821
01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:26,400
Speaker 1: an awful lot of rookie undrafted players, undrafted rookie free agents.

1822
01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:28,920
Speaker 1: The six of them got in the lineup, had contributions

1823
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:31,120
Speaker 1: to make last week. We'll hear what Choum mcdermber thinks

1824
01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:33,160
Speaker 1: about that when we come back and they won, and

1825
01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:36,479
Speaker 1: they won with six undrafted rookies in the lineup last week.

1826
01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 1: Come back for more. One goes live from One Bills

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01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:54,960
Speaker 1: Drive and this is Buffalo Bills Radio. Find Dan zone here, fellas,

1828
01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 1: let's here's the snap. Alan looks into the end zone.

1829
01:26:57,960 --> 01:27:00,920
Speaker 1: Plenty of time, scancy end zone. Now he tucked his arm,

1830
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 1: runs to his right. He may keep it himself. I

1831
01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:19,720
Speaker 1: don't let the part that Josh buff Hello drive right there,

1832
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:25,120
Speaker 1: hell's the drive. Everybody can be great. Josh Allen was

1833
01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:27,519
Speaker 1: miked up for Sunday's win against the Lines. You gotta

1834
01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:29,720
Speaker 1: see this. It's on our website, Buffalo bills dot com

1835
01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:33,400
Speaker 1: or on the various social media platforms. Josh Allen miked

1836
01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:36,479
Speaker 1: up during the course of the game. You can feel

1837
01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:41,120
Speaker 1: the emotional listen. I was in our hectic, frantic sprint

1838
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:43,320
Speaker 1: to get to the show on time today. I had

1839
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:44,880
Speaker 1: that up earlier in the in the morning. I couldn't

1840
01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:46,240
Speaker 1: get it to load. I was waiting when I couldn't

1841
01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:47,560
Speaker 1: get it. I couldn't get it to come on. I

1842
01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 1: wanted to hear it again. It's good, but yeah, it's fun.

1843
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:53,400
Speaker 1: It's that miked up stuff is pretty interesting. Yeah, it's

1844
01:27:53,479 --> 01:27:55,559
Speaker 1: up on the website, Buffalo bills dot com, or Bills

1845
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:58,000
Speaker 1: on Twitter or wherever you want to go, Bills on Facebook. Hey,

1846
01:27:58,120 --> 01:28:01,960
Speaker 1: this is interesting. Excuse me, Steve, this is interesting, I think,

1847
01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:05,040
Speaker 1: and we've seen it, we've chronicled it, we've talked about it.

1848
01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:09,000
Speaker 1: The integration of new players into the lineup. Really since

1849
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:11,240
Speaker 1: what since the bye week, maybe the week before the

1850
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:13,640
Speaker 1: bye the Jets win, and it really there was a

1851
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:21,520
Speaker 1: milestone this past Sunday. Six six undrafted rookies made contributions

1852
01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:25,320
Speaker 1: played against the against the Detroit Lions. Wide receiver Robert Foster,

1853
01:28:25,439 --> 01:28:28,880
Speaker 1: running back Keith Ford, offensive linement I Butcker got some snaps.

1854
01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:32,000
Speaker 1: Cornerback Levi Wallace is playing about five games now. Linebacker

1855
01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:35,080
Speaker 1: Corey Thompson got action. Defensive end Mike Love. They all

1856
01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 1: chipped in against Detroit. All six probably gonna have roles

1857
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:40,960
Speaker 1: Sunday and the rest of the way. It's interesting, I think, Steve,

1858
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:43,200
Speaker 1: and it's you know, can you win what you continue

1859
01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:46,000
Speaker 1: to play? Guys who were not even good enough to

1860
01:28:46,040 --> 01:28:48,160
Speaker 1: be drafted really, but they've been here, all of them,

1861
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:49,439
Speaker 1: most of them have been here for most of the

1862
01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:51,400
Speaker 1: year on the practice squad. I think it's kind of

1863
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 1: a good step forward for the Bills in terms of

1864
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:55,280
Speaker 1: player development. And I was thinking about it, what you know,

1865
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:57,760
Speaker 1: the deeper meaning of it. No question that those guys

1866
01:28:57,800 --> 01:28:59,720
Speaker 1: have worked hard since they've been here, and I think

1867
01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:02,880
Speaker 1: it's beaks to the type of guys they are as professionals,

1868
01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:05,600
Speaker 1: just kind of learning their way, finding their way, and

1869
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:07,800
Speaker 1: then you know, jumping in we heard so much talk

1870
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:10,519
Speaker 1: about how hard Robert Foster has worked to get on

1871
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:12,840
Speaker 1: the field, and obviously that's paying off. I don't think

1872
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:15,120
Speaker 1: that's any different than these other guys. They're really working hard.

1873
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:17,280
Speaker 1: And you know what else, Murph and I and I

1874
01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 1: don't want to read too much into it, because, let's

1875
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:22,680
Speaker 1: face it, the Bills were kind of backed into a

1876
01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:25,880
Speaker 1: corner for those guys to get on the field, right.

1877
01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:27,439
Speaker 1: I mean, those guys would ever have seen the field

1878
01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:29,280
Speaker 1: if the Bills were one hundred percent healthy throughout the year,

1879
01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:31,280
Speaker 1: those guys would never have We would never know how

1880
01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:33,800
Speaker 1: good or bad they were. But the fact that they

1881
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:37,719
Speaker 1: got on the field and then contributed particularly a close win. Yeah,

1882
01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:42,479
Speaker 1: you gotta tip your hat to the scouting department sure

1883
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:44,960
Speaker 1: in the GM and those guys who are getting those

1884
01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:48,040
Speaker 1: putting those lists together of well who's well, we got

1885
01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:51,960
Speaker 1: this kid from Eastern Nowhere University and we got this

1886
01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:57,720
Speaker 1: kid from Southeast Louisiana Tech State. You know, nobody knows

1887
01:29:57,760 --> 01:30:01,240
Speaker 1: who these guys are, and yet they bring him in

1888
01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:04,040
Speaker 1: and through the program, through the kind of guys they

1889
01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:06,200
Speaker 1: look for, and whatever else they get ask him to do,

1890
01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:08,800
Speaker 1: and the atmosphere on the practice field they get out

1891
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Speaker 1: there and working when and you need it, and they

1892
01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:12,160
Speaker 1: plugged him in and those guys came through, Yeah, they

1893
01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:13,960
Speaker 1: came through big time. They're scouting. You know what else,

1894
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:16,960
Speaker 1: I don't want to discount the role of development too. Coaching. Yeah,

1895
01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:18,920
Speaker 1: those guys have been in the practice squad and they're

1896
01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:21,960
Speaker 1: not just spectators. They get coach. They're practicing every day,

1897
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Speaker 1: sometimes longer practice days than the starters and the guys

1898
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:26,960
Speaker 1: who play a lot. And it goes to those veterans

1899
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:29,040
Speaker 1: in every room where these rookie free agents are coming

1900
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Speaker 1: in there and they're seeing a guy like Kyle Williams,

1901
01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:34,080
Speaker 1: you know, a guy like Lashawn McCoy and Chris Ivory,

1902
01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:42,680
Speaker 1: guys like Russ Bodine, certainly Lorenzo Alexander, Micah Hyde, all

1903
01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:45,519
Speaker 1: these guys in these different position groups who show these

1904
01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:47,640
Speaker 1: guys how to do it, and they're saying, Okay, if

1905
01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:50,000
Speaker 1: that's how it's done, I'm gonna do it. Sean McDermot

1906
01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:51,880
Speaker 1: talked about it yesterday and when he met with the media,

1907
01:30:51,960 --> 01:30:55,719
Speaker 1: talked about having six undrafted rookies in the lineup against

1908
01:30:55,760 --> 01:30:57,760
Speaker 1: Detroit and what it means for this programmer. Here's what

1909
01:30:57,880 --> 01:31:01,479
Speaker 1: he had to say. It's really the type of culture

1910
01:31:01,479 --> 01:31:03,240
Speaker 1: we're trying to build where you can walk I can

1911
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:05,080
Speaker 1: walk into the team meeting room, on a on a

1912
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:07,719
Speaker 1: Wednesday morning and say hey, this this player, player XS

1913
01:31:07,960 --> 01:31:09,600
Speaker 1: has earned the right to be brought up to the

1914
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Speaker 1: active roster. And the players, really, I think they get

1915
01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:15,200
Speaker 1: a lot of motivation out of that and take, um,

1916
01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:18,120
Speaker 1: take pride in that because they know what type of

1917
01:31:18,160 --> 01:31:20,280
Speaker 1: culture we're trying to build and that you got to

1918
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:23,639
Speaker 1: earn things here. And these young men that I've mentioned

1919
01:31:23,680 --> 01:31:27,320
Speaker 1: that have all been brought up, they've earned it and so, um,

1920
01:31:27,479 --> 01:31:29,720
Speaker 1: that's how we do things here. And um, I think

1921
01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:33,280
Speaker 1: it develops a sense of pride in what we're doing

1922
01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:36,559
Speaker 1: and the team, and the team really roots for one another. Um.

1923
01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:39,040
Speaker 1: So that's good to see. Yeah, And I can imagine

1924
01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 1: when I heard that sound bite from McDermott yesterday, I

1925
01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:44,080
Speaker 1: can imagine what a great scene that is. Right, you

1926
01:31:44,160 --> 01:31:46,000
Speaker 1: go into the meeting room tomorrow and who know, maybe

1927
01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:48,080
Speaker 1: they'll have a few more guys tomorrow, but you're going

1928
01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:49,880
Speaker 1: there on a Wednesday and say, hey, by the way,

1929
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:53,479
Speaker 1: Mike loves up this week, or Keith Ford's up this week. Right,

1930
01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:57,840
Speaker 1: they've earned the right, yeah to be activated with Mike whatever.

1931
01:31:57,920 --> 01:32:01,800
Speaker 1: With Matt Milano being down, the guy who's worked hard

1932
01:32:02,040 --> 01:32:04,280
Speaker 1: to be ready to play on a day a week

1933
01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:06,679
Speaker 1: just like this is you know Mike Love Yeah, Corey

1934
01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:09,120
Speaker 1: Thompsons yeah and those and think about what it means.

1935
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Speaker 1: And believe me, I can remember what it was like.

1936
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Speaker 1: That's to be recognized like that amongst your peers and

1937
01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:19,280
Speaker 1: being saying you've earned it as being the guy they

1938
01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:21,200
Speaker 1: choose to bring it because listen, they can bring in

1939
01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:23,360
Speaker 1: a hundred different guys who would love the chance to

1940
01:32:23,439 --> 01:32:26,200
Speaker 1: line up for the Buffalo Bills at Will you know,

1941
01:32:26,479 --> 01:32:29,600
Speaker 1: but you're the guy. Yeah, let's it's your chance, and

1942
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:33,120
Speaker 1: it's it's motivating, inspiring, and it's affirming as well, so

1943
01:32:33,400 --> 01:32:36,040
Speaker 1: it's all all positive stuff. We come back, we're gonna

1944
01:32:36,040 --> 01:32:38,639
Speaker 1: talk with Bucky Brooks, former Bills wide receiver. Has carved

1945
01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:41,400
Speaker 1: out a great career as an analyst for the NFL Network,

1946
01:32:41,439 --> 01:32:43,519
Speaker 1: does a great job on the draft, does a great

1947
01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:45,760
Speaker 1: job of grading and looking in film. And Bucky Brooks

1948
01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:47,640
Speaker 1: will join us in the next hour, the third and

1949
01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:49,720
Speaker 1: final hour of the show. Time now for New York

1950
01:32:49,760 --> 01:32:52,680
Speaker 1: State Lottery Inside the Numbers, take a break from the

1951
01:32:52,760 --> 01:32:55,679
Speaker 1: expected play scratch off games from the New York State Lottery.

1952
01:32:56,760 --> 01:32:59,800
Speaker 1: With his rushing touchdown against the Lions, Josh Allen has

1953
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:02,880
Speaker 1: hid Tyrod Taylor and Darryl la Monica for the second

1954
01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:05,920
Speaker 1: most rushing touchdown in the season by a Bill's quarterback.

1955
01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:08,639
Speaker 1: He's got six. He's tied with Tyrod Taylor from twenty

1956
01:33:08,720 --> 01:33:12,320
Speaker 1: sixteen and Darrel la Monica from nineteen sixty four. Jack

1957
01:33:12,439 --> 01:33:15,439
Speaker 1: Kemp is the Bill's all time leader with touchdown runs

1958
01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:18,160
Speaker 1: in a season. He had eight back in nineteen sixty three.

1959
01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:22,280
Speaker 1: Josh's two touchdown runs behind him. He's got two games

1960
01:33:22,360 --> 01:33:25,639
Speaker 1: left to play. Could happened good with the way he's

1961
01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:30,920
Speaker 1: been going easily, Lucky Brooks. When we return, come on

1962
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:33,080
Speaker 1: back for hour three. One goes Live from One Goes

1963
01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:43,320
Speaker 1: Drive and this is Buffalo Bills Radio. Hello, Bills Radio Network.

1964
01:33:43,880 --> 01:33:48,040
Speaker 1: Story update from One Bill's Drive. The Bills players with

1965
01:33:48,160 --> 01:33:50,120
Speaker 1: the day off today, some of them in for workouts

1966
01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:53,040
Speaker 1: and conditioning work, but the practice week begins tomorrow as

1967
01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:55,840
Speaker 1: Buffalo gets set to take on the Patriots in New England.

1968
01:33:55,840 --> 01:33:57,719
Speaker 1: They may have to answer some questions about a running

1969
01:33:57,760 --> 01:33:59,880
Speaker 1: back health when they hit the practice field tomorrow. Is

1970
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:03,600
Speaker 1: Sean McCoy Chris Ivery. Neither one of them played in

1971
01:34:03,720 --> 01:34:05,360
Speaker 1: the win against the Lions. A couple of days ago,

1972
01:34:05,400 --> 01:34:08,080
Speaker 1: Shaan determined they had no update on their status going

1973
01:34:08,160 --> 01:34:13,280
Speaker 1: into after Monday's workouts. Here, the Bills coach also said

1974
01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:16,800
Speaker 1: that Marcus Murphy has a dislocated elbow, not likely that

1975
01:34:16,840 --> 01:34:19,080
Speaker 1: he'll be ready to play, So maybe another game for

1976
01:34:19,479 --> 01:34:21,800
Speaker 1: Keith Ford to get some snaps at running back. We'll

1977
01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:23,960
Speaker 1: find out tomorrow. The Bills will hit the practice field

1978
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:26,280
Speaker 1: tomorrow and answer some of those other questions. They play

1979
01:34:26,360 --> 01:34:29,400
Speaker 1: the Patriots coming up, the team that beat them twenty

1980
01:34:29,479 --> 01:34:32,439
Speaker 1: five to six eight weeks ago on Monday Night Football.

1981
01:34:32,479 --> 01:34:34,360
Speaker 1: The bills final road game of the year coming up

1982
01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:37,120
Speaker 1: this Sunday. Last night, the New Orleans Saints got their

1983
01:34:37,160 --> 01:34:39,080
Speaker 1: twelfth win of the season, the best record in the

1984
01:34:39,160 --> 01:34:41,280
Speaker 1: league at twelve and two, and now New Orleans one

1985
01:34:41,360 --> 01:34:44,759
Speaker 1: went away from securing home field in the NFC playoffs.

1986
01:34:44,960 --> 01:34:47,600
Speaker 1: They held off to Carolina Panthers twelve to nine last night.

1987
01:34:47,680 --> 01:34:50,680
Speaker 1: The Panthers now six wins eight losses. Big game for

1988
01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:53,880
Speaker 1: the Saints. Alvin Camera one hundred nine total yards twenty

1989
01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:57,160
Speaker 1: one touchdowns to help New Orleans provide most of their

1990
01:34:57,200 --> 01:34:59,679
Speaker 1: offense in that game. Ron Rivera says he's not ready

1991
01:34:59,720 --> 01:35:02,120
Speaker 1: to show down Cam Newton even after that game last night,

1992
01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:05,360
Speaker 1: Newton does not look physically right, but Rivera says he

1993
01:35:05,400 --> 01:35:07,880
Speaker 1: will not make a determination on Newton's status for the

1994
01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:10,320
Speaker 1: final two weeks of the season until after he talks

1995
01:35:10,360 --> 01:35:12,960
Speaker 1: to his medical staff. Cam Newton with a shoulder issue

1996
01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:16,000
Speaker 1: he's been dealing with for weeks, and Ron Rivera says

1997
01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:17,760
Speaker 1: not ready to shut him down yet with two games

1998
01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:21,120
Speaker 1: to go. Buffalo Sabers Hockey tonight, seven o'clock faceoff at

1999
01:35:21,160 --> 01:35:23,799
Speaker 1: key Bank Center for the Sabers and the Florida Panthers.

2000
01:35:24,400 --> 01:35:27,280
Speaker 1: Tim Reinhard has had much success against Florida over the years.

2001
01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:30,839
Speaker 1: Fourteen career games, thirteen points, eight goals, and five assists.

2002
01:35:31,080 --> 01:35:32,960
Speaker 1: He's picked up points at each of the last four

2003
01:35:33,040 --> 01:35:35,960
Speaker 1: times that he's played the Florida Panthers. Seven o'clock faceoff

2004
01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:38,519
Speaker 1: tonight at key Bank Center. Big basketball game down the

2005
01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:41,120
Speaker 1: road in Syracuse today, the UB Bulls ten and oh

2006
01:35:41,240 --> 01:35:43,840
Speaker 1: ranked fifteenth of the country, take on the Syracuse Orange

2007
01:35:43,880 --> 01:35:46,360
Speaker 1: They are seven and three. That came on ESPN two

2008
01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:48,880
Speaker 1: eight o'clock tip off for that game. You're going to

2009
01:35:48,920 --> 01:35:53,000
Speaker 1: the hockey game, I'll be watching Syracuse ub That's fine, Yeah,

2010
01:35:53,240 --> 01:35:56,840
Speaker 1: that's fine. I'm looking forward to document Ion Sabers. I'll

2011
01:35:56,880 --> 01:35:58,400
Speaker 1: do the puck. What do you call it? Oh? What

2012
01:35:58,400 --> 01:35:59,800
Speaker 1: do you call it? When you switch back and forth?

2013
01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:03,080
Speaker 1: I can literally surf. Okay, I can do that effectively.

2014
01:36:03,160 --> 01:36:05,960
Speaker 1: I will watch both games tonight on one screen. That's

2015
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:08,080
Speaker 1: how good I am getting at it, you know, and

2016
01:36:08,240 --> 01:36:12,160
Speaker 1: you take advantage of the DVA TV breaks, go back

2017
01:36:12,320 --> 01:36:14,559
Speaker 1: and fill in the blanks. Yeah. Yeah, let's talk some football.

2018
01:36:14,640 --> 01:36:16,559
Speaker 1: Let's talk with one of our favorite guests, a guy

2019
01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:18,080
Speaker 1: who was an awful lot about the game. He was

2020
01:36:18,160 --> 01:36:21,080
Speaker 1: a Bill's wide receiver pick up in nineteen ninety four

2021
01:36:21,080 --> 01:36:23,400
Speaker 1: in the draft. Former teammate is Steve Tasker played in

2022
01:36:23,439 --> 01:36:25,840
Speaker 1: the league five teams in five years, and now he's

2023
01:36:25,880 --> 01:36:29,080
Speaker 1: an NFL dot Com and NFL Network analyst. Happy to

2024
01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:32,439
Speaker 1: have Bucky Brooks on the Subway Fresh Take Hotline with us, Buckie,

2025
01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:34,799
Speaker 1: is John Murphy and your old teammates Steve Tasker in Buffalo.

2026
01:36:34,920 --> 01:36:37,439
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, Hey, thanks so much for having

2027
01:36:37,439 --> 01:36:40,360
Speaker 1: me on. Guy Bucky, talk a little bit about I

2028
01:36:40,439 --> 01:36:42,280
Speaker 1: want to ask you about the quarterbacks. He had some

2029
01:36:42,439 --> 01:36:45,559
Speaker 1: things to say about Josh Allen and how he's coming

2030
01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:47,840
Speaker 1: along in his development. What are your thoughts so far,

2031
01:36:48,439 --> 01:36:52,439
Speaker 1: I think everybody agrees he's got it. Like we said

2032
01:36:52,479 --> 01:36:54,639
Speaker 1: in the draft before the draft, he's got a huge upside.

2033
01:36:55,040 --> 01:36:57,800
Speaker 1: Needs to be work, needs to work. But I don't

2034
01:36:57,840 --> 01:37:01,040
Speaker 1: think anybody saw his upside as being almost as big

2035
01:37:01,120 --> 01:37:04,320
Speaker 1: as it seems to be. Nah. I mean, I think

2036
01:37:04,360 --> 01:37:06,880
Speaker 1: he's been very impressive in what he's done now. I

2037
01:37:06,960 --> 01:37:10,280
Speaker 1: think everyone who has looked at Josh Allen from the

2038
01:37:10,360 --> 01:37:12,280
Speaker 1: time he was at Walming to the way he's made

2039
01:37:12,320 --> 01:37:15,920
Speaker 1: his way and Buffalo was always fascinated by the arm

2040
01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:19,240
Speaker 1: talent and the ability that he should have to stretch

2041
01:37:19,280 --> 01:37:22,120
Speaker 1: to field as kind of like a D ball specialist. However,

2042
01:37:22,240 --> 01:37:24,080
Speaker 1: I think the thing that has been the biggest surprise

2043
01:37:24,120 --> 01:37:27,200
Speaker 1: he has been his effectiveness as a dual threat quarterback.

2044
01:37:28,400 --> 01:37:30,000
Speaker 1: You know, in the run up to the draft, when

2045
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:31,639
Speaker 1: I looked at him and I looked at the potential

2046
01:37:31,720 --> 01:37:34,920
Speaker 1: pairing of Josh Ellen at the Buffalo Bills, I felt

2047
01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:39,320
Speaker 1: like Sean McDermott and Brandon Dean would see some Cam

2048
01:37:39,479 --> 01:37:43,880
Speaker 1: like Cam Newton like qualities in Josh Allen's game that

2049
01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:47,240
Speaker 1: would make them comfortable building an offense around him. And

2050
01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:49,320
Speaker 1: I think if you really look at the way Josh

2051
01:37:49,400 --> 01:37:51,599
Speaker 1: Allen plays. I'm not saying that he's a cart mc

2052
01:37:51,640 --> 01:37:53,600
Speaker 1: copy of Cam, but I think that the way that

2053
01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:56,280
Speaker 1: you're building this offense, you have to build it with

2054
01:37:56,560 --> 01:37:59,599
Speaker 1: the thought of Cam Newton in mind. Meeting. He may

2055
01:37:59,720 --> 01:38:01,960
Speaker 1: never be a guy that completes over sixty percent of

2056
01:38:02,040 --> 01:38:04,920
Speaker 1: his passes, but if you use them in the run game,

2057
01:38:05,320 --> 01:38:07,839
Speaker 1: you build a powerful run game around him. You surround

2058
01:38:07,880 --> 01:38:10,519
Speaker 1: him with big body receivers who can expand the strike zone.

2059
01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:14,160
Speaker 1: He certainly can be a very effective weapon as you

2060
01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:16,560
Speaker 1: do some of the things that we've seen him do

2061
01:38:16,760 --> 01:38:21,519
Speaker 1: this year, quarterback design, runs, scrambles, read options stuff, on

2062
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:24,680
Speaker 1: top of some of the protocol passing game. I absolutely

2063
01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:28,120
Speaker 1: believe that he can be an aspective playmaker for the Bills,

2064
01:38:28,120 --> 01:38:30,840
Speaker 1: and he's obviously already shown that he can win games

2065
01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:33,320
Speaker 1: and the style that he plays the game. Buck you

2066
01:38:33,439 --> 01:38:36,800
Speaker 1: do a lot of draft analysis, obviously, and everybody was

2067
01:38:36,840 --> 01:38:40,200
Speaker 1: all over those five first round quarterbacks, you know, about

2068
01:38:40,280 --> 01:38:42,400
Speaker 1: ten months ago before the draft, and I was thinking

2069
01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:44,000
Speaker 1: about it the other day. When you look at how

2070
01:38:44,040 --> 01:38:45,640
Speaker 1: it's playing out here as we approach the end of

2071
01:38:45,680 --> 01:38:49,320
Speaker 1: the season, it's almost like the quarterbacks are playing the

2072
01:38:49,439 --> 01:38:52,000
Speaker 1: way they were drafted. In other words, Baker Mayfield probably

2073
01:38:52,040 --> 01:38:55,400
Speaker 1: has been the most successful rookie, and then maybe it's Darnold,

2074
01:38:55,439 --> 01:38:58,639
Speaker 1: maybe it's Josh, But then you know Rosen and Lamar

2075
01:38:58,760 --> 01:39:00,160
Speaker 1: Jackson at the end. Do you see it that way?

2076
01:39:00,280 --> 01:39:02,000
Speaker 1: How do you see that whole group of five, the

2077
01:39:02,160 --> 01:39:04,679
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen quarterback class. How do you think they played

2078
01:39:04,680 --> 01:39:07,800
Speaker 1: out this year? You know, it's funny because I think

2079
01:39:08,200 --> 01:39:10,200
Speaker 1: you kind of have to put Josh and Lamar jack

2080
01:39:10,400 --> 01:39:13,320
Speaker 1: deter categories just because I think they have played the

2081
01:39:13,400 --> 01:39:16,160
Speaker 1: game a little differently than the other guys. Josh Rosen

2082
01:39:16,200 --> 01:39:18,880
Speaker 1: has probably struggled the most, Damn doner that had some

2083
01:39:19,120 --> 01:39:22,200
Speaker 1: up and down. Baker Mayfield has probably been the most consistent,

2084
01:39:22,280 --> 01:39:24,840
Speaker 1: but he also was the oldest and he had played

2085
01:39:24,880 --> 01:39:27,160
Speaker 1: the most of any of those quarterbacks. I think with

2086
01:39:27,360 --> 01:39:30,200
Speaker 1: Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson, I think the thing that

2087
01:39:30,360 --> 01:39:33,920
Speaker 1: you can be encouraged about is they have shown enough

2088
01:39:34,040 --> 01:39:37,400
Speaker 1: as Joel break quarterback that they can win in the

2089
01:39:37,520 --> 01:39:40,240
Speaker 1: way in which they're winning that now it's about building

2090
01:39:40,280 --> 01:39:43,559
Speaker 1: the team around them. Lamar Deckon had the better team

2091
01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:46,439
Speaker 1: around him than Josh Allen. But for Josh, I think

2092
01:39:46,720 --> 01:39:48,800
Speaker 1: he could benefit from what we call it the second

2093
01:39:48,880 --> 01:39:52,919
Speaker 1: year pound, much like Carson went and Jay golf Independent

2094
01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:56,640
Speaker 1: in their second year with the team around them was upgraded,

2095
01:39:56,960 --> 01:40:00,720
Speaker 1: better wide receivers, a little more attention for the running game,

2096
01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:03,559
Speaker 1: and the offensive line. I think you can see Josh

2097
01:40:03,640 --> 01:40:07,439
Speaker 1: Allan improved in his second year because he's surrounded by

2098
01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:10,680
Speaker 1: better players and Dad helps him elevate his game. Do

2099
01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:13,360
Speaker 1: you think that's the reason Josh Rosen is struggling so

2100
01:40:13,439 --> 01:40:15,680
Speaker 1: badly in Arizona? I mean, there's no question it's a

2101
01:40:15,800 --> 01:40:19,799
Speaker 1: rough and tumble league and Arizona's struggling all over the field.

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Speaker 1: Would Josh Rosen and I guess it's be true that

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Speaker 1: any of these quarterbacks would probably play better if they

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Speaker 1: were in maybe Baltimore where they had a more solid

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Speaker 1: team around them or what have you. But is it

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Speaker 1: the surrounding cast that has caused Josh Rosen to struggle?

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Speaker 1: What do you see in his game? Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: he's saying behind like, look, all of these guys will

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Speaker 1: pick hot because the teams that were pickings weren't very

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Speaker 1: good for the most part, but they all hold him

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Speaker 1: and Josh Rosen. Their offensive line has been bad. They

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Speaker 1: admitted to check him, and you could blame some of

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Speaker 1: his struggle on the coaching cap. Maybe they didn't really

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01:40:57,040 --> 01:40:59,640
Speaker 1: have a idea of how they wanted to play the

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Speaker 1: game with him a quarterback, where some of the other

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01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:06,800
Speaker 1: guys have benefited from having someone in the building a

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Speaker 1: quarterback coach and act as a coordinator who had a

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Speaker 1: career plan for how to play them, was able to

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Speaker 1: take what they did bid very well as the legier

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Speaker 1: players and put them into practice, and really they protected

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01:41:18,520 --> 01:41:20,639
Speaker 1: them so they'd even get hit enough so they could

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01:41:20,680 --> 01:41:24,599
Speaker 1: build some confidence. And I think every like each one

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Speaker 1: of these quarterbacks, they were gonna have to play the

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Speaker 1: game in a different style. The guys that were able

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01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:33,439
Speaker 1: to kind of actu yes to the demands of their chunel,

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Speaker 1: we're able to get the best production out of those guys.

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Speaker 1: And so when we think about Josh Condon specifically, I

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Speaker 1: think Bryan day Ball has done a really good job

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01:41:42,360 --> 01:41:45,200
Speaker 1: of put them in situation where he can just play

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01:41:45,280 --> 01:41:47,719
Speaker 1: the game and not worry about some of the works

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Speaker 1: that maybe on these games. Hey, Bucky, do you think

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Speaker 1: players like Josh Allen, like Lamar Jackson, like Deshaun Watson,

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Speaker 1: these as and like Cam Newton is the league changing

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01:41:59,720 --> 01:42:03,200
Speaker 1: These are the protections and because of how different it

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01:42:03,320 --> 01:42:05,599
Speaker 1: is when the guy slides and the protections that are

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01:42:05,600 --> 01:42:08,400
Speaker 1: afforded the guys with the ball carriers and the hits

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01:42:08,439 --> 01:42:11,080
Speaker 1: on the defenseless receiver and leading with the helmet, all

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01:42:11,160 --> 01:42:14,640
Speaker 1: these players' safety rules, has it kind of opened the

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01:42:14,760 --> 01:42:17,160
Speaker 1: door for an opportunity for these kind of quarterbacks to

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Speaker 1: be successful. And think, I think that's some of it,

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Speaker 1: But also I think the more we see those kind

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Speaker 1: of quarterbacks have success, Josh Allen success, Lamar Jackson success

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Speaker 1: is going to open the door for some other guys.

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Speaker 1: And I'm around high school football a lot. I see

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01:42:36,439 --> 01:42:39,800
Speaker 1: it across the country, the guys that are like Josh

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01:42:39,880 --> 01:42:43,200
Speaker 1: Ellen and Lamar Jackson. There are more of those type

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks than the traditional Jim Kelley types that can kind

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01:42:46,720 --> 01:42:50,200
Speaker 1: of stand in the pocket and deliver active policies week

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Speaker 1: in week out. And so at some point the league

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01:42:53,160 --> 01:42:55,320
Speaker 1: is going to have to change a little bit and

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01:42:55,479 --> 01:42:59,200
Speaker 1: be a little more flexible to build offenses around those

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01:42:59,280 --> 01:43:02,160
Speaker 1: kind of challenge or are you going to limit your

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01:43:02,240 --> 01:43:05,320
Speaker 1: opportunity to find a franchise quarterback that can help your

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01:43:05,439 --> 01:43:08,400
Speaker 1: team winning games. I do believe the Fayer safety rules

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01:43:08,439 --> 01:43:10,760
Speaker 1: and the protections have come. But I also believe that

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01:43:10,880 --> 01:43:13,000
Speaker 1: the product of what the lawyer levels are they now

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01:43:13,040 --> 01:43:15,160
Speaker 1: beginning to produce at the position on the line. With

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Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks, former NFL player, former NFL scout right now

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Speaker 1: NFL dot Com and the NFL network analysts. You said

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Speaker 1: something about the Bills Josh Allen a moment ago Bucky

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Speaker 1: about how when they surround him with a good running game,

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Speaker 1: and I read that you wrote this recently. You believe

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Speaker 1: that there is still a role for a rushing offense

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. Can you talk about that a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Some people think, you know, the days of running backs

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Speaker 1: and a running game making a difference are over. What

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01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:40,599
Speaker 1: do you think? No, I think if you just look

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Speaker 1: around the league and look Steve can say the game

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01:43:43,200 --> 01:43:46,800
Speaker 1: changes after Thanksgiving, especially if you're playing in Western New

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Speaker 1: York with snow and some of the other stuff as

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Speaker 1: much as we are would I can see the ball

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Speaker 1: flying through the air. You have to be able to

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Speaker 1: run the ball to kind of control of the game.

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Speaker 1: And when you think about quarterbacks in the life, it

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Speaker 1: has improven that decks that throw our play action have

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Speaker 1: higher completion percentage, more yards per tim, more explosive play.

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Speaker 1: And so for a guy like a Josh Allen is

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Speaker 1: a strong arm vertical passing threat we're see on a

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Speaker 1: weekly basis. He's been able to dollars up to rob

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Speaker 1: the boster on the deep over route off playoffs where

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Speaker 1: the stronger your running game is, the bigger the passing

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01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:24,880
Speaker 1: windows are going to be an intermediate and deep areas.

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Speaker 1: I think if I'm the Buffalo Bills, knowing that I

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Speaker 1: have a strong defense that is playing lights out, I

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Speaker 1: got a quarterback that can run around and he is

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Speaker 1: at his best when he pushes the ball down the

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Speaker 1: feudal I want to build a strong running game so

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01:44:36,600 --> 01:44:39,120
Speaker 1: now we can run it down hill and throw it

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Speaker 1: over the defense's head, as opposed to try and make

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Speaker 1: him play in a Deacon dump control passing game that

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Speaker 1: requires him to be a high completion percentage passing which

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Speaker 1: may not necessarily be the strength of his game. About

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Speaker 1: three weeks ago, the Bills kind of cleared the decks

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Speaker 1: of wide elderly wide receivers. I mean they got rid

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Speaker 1: of the Calvin Benjamin, that got rid of Andre Holmes,

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Speaker 1: and they brought in all these young rookie free agents

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Speaker 1: and the speed guys. They just kind of changed the

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Speaker 1: personality of the wide receiver room almost overnight. And Robert Foster,

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Speaker 1: who is an undrafted rookie free agent from Alabama came

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Speaker 1: to the Buffalo Bills. It was up and down early

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Speaker 1: in the season. And now that he's been up after

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Speaker 1: he was cut signed to the practice squad, he's really

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01:45:23,000 --> 01:45:27,960
Speaker 1: changed and started to grow into a real time NFL

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Speaker 1: wide receiver. What do you see in him? Certainly he's

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Speaker 1: got the physical abilities, but what do you think changed

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Speaker 1: for a young receiver like that in the time he

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Speaker 1: was a rookie undrafted free agent to a guy who's

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Speaker 1: really been effective of late. More time, more reps, more opportunity.

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Speaker 1: I think having time on the practice build and the

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Speaker 1: progress squad member gave my opportunity to home his craft.

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Speaker 1: And then as the Buffalo bill become increasingly comfortable with

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen and they began to understand what he does

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Speaker 1: really well, they may have them to surround him with

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Speaker 1: playmakers that attentuate his steel. And so the reason I

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Speaker 1: go back to the Josh Allen cam Newty comparison is

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Speaker 1: a little bit about the fields as players but also

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Speaker 1: how the Carolina Panther team was constructed, that team that

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Speaker 1: went to the Super Bowl tripy with Sean mcderman at

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Speaker 1: deformatory speed, guys like Ted Again and Chuckie Brown on

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Speaker 1: the outside, because they ran it and they threw it deep,

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Speaker 1: and I think they're trying to kind of recreate that

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Speaker 1: in Buffalo. Farster Abimity was going to be a big

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Speaker 1: part on the wide receiver for it. Because he can't

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Speaker 1: stress the field, he can't make vertical play, he can

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Speaker 1: give them that exposed to mention and I think it

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Speaker 1: just works really really well with what Josh Allen does

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Speaker 1: as a quarterback. Hey, Bucky, Steve and I tucked ourselves

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Speaker 1: into a little frenzy an hour ago. We had the

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Speaker 1: Bills and the Patriots coming up. The Bills, as you know,

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01:46:49,000 --> 01:46:51,840
Speaker 1: history over the years have very little success to point

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Speaker 1: to when it comes to playing the Patriots, especially in Foxborough,

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01:46:54,840 --> 01:46:57,920
Speaker 1: and yet there seems to be a maybe a change

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Speaker 1: in the offing here. What do you make of the

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01:46:59,400 --> 01:47:04,040
Speaker 1: Patriots to game slide and maybe Buffalo's chances to change

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Speaker 1: the conversation a little bit when it comes to their

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Speaker 1: matchups with the Patriots. Oh, I think they certainly can

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01:47:09,439 --> 01:47:11,800
Speaker 1: change the conversation. And I think anyone who looks at

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Speaker 1: the Patriots, if you just take the logo off the helmet,

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01:47:14,800 --> 01:47:17,160
Speaker 1: you see a team that is a slow team that

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Speaker 1: doesn't have the ability to really make explosive play. So

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Speaker 1: if you're Buffalo with the mobile quarterback, who mobile quarterbacks

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01:47:24,680 --> 01:47:26,760
Speaker 1: tend to give the Patriots probably because they don't have

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01:47:28,080 --> 01:47:31,200
Speaker 1: outstanding athletes all over the field, I think there is

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01:47:31,960 --> 01:47:34,840
Speaker 1: a pathway for them to win the game. Obviously, johns

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01:47:34,880 --> 01:47:36,680
Speaker 1: Allen has to take care of the ball. He needs

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Speaker 1: to be able to run it and be effective, and

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01:47:39,320 --> 01:47:41,040
Speaker 1: they need to be able to get some other players

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Speaker 1: involved in the running games to get it going. But

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Speaker 1: that defense builds defenses. I think matches up pretty well.

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Speaker 1: It's just a matter of making sure that they can

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Speaker 1: contain Robert Mutowski and trying to play the game the

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Speaker 1: right way. Normally, the Patriots wait for you to crack

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01:47:56,080 --> 01:48:00,160
Speaker 1: and they see on those mistakes that you make. But

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01:48:00,280 --> 01:48:02,800
Speaker 1: we're seeing more saints than the armor, a team that

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Speaker 1: is beginning to kind of fall apart and say incident.

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Speaker 1: I think it's time to kind of think about the

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Speaker 1: children of the Guard. In the ANFC East I don't

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01:48:10,800 --> 01:48:14,519
Speaker 1: know how long the team to wig on top of

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01:48:14,680 --> 01:48:18,320
Speaker 1: the way their roster is presently constructed. I want to

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Speaker 1: take a minute, as we talk about the Patriots and

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Speaker 1: Bills this weekend, look around the league about some of

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01:48:22,680 --> 01:48:25,160
Speaker 1: the other things that have been happening. The Saints squeaked

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01:48:25,200 --> 01:48:27,839
Speaker 1: by the Panthers last night in a twelve to nine matchup.

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Speaker 1: And this is the Saints team that was hanging, you know,

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01:48:30,920 --> 01:48:33,120
Speaker 1: forty points a game on all these teams, and we

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01:48:33,200 --> 01:48:35,559
Speaker 1: see it with the Kansas City Chiefs down the stretch.

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01:48:35,640 --> 01:48:38,160
Speaker 1: Now they're starting to struggle to score points. The La

2268
01:48:38,320 --> 01:48:40,919
Speaker 1: Rams got knocked off by a good defense in Chicago.

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Speaker 1: All these teams that started out six and OZ five

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Speaker 1: and ozho seven and OZ and now the Ram. You know,

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01:48:45,760 --> 01:48:48,120
Speaker 1: the Saints still sitting at the top with the record,

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01:48:48,560 --> 01:48:52,800
Speaker 1: they're starting to struggle now as the seasons change. Is

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01:48:52,840 --> 01:48:56,320
Speaker 1: it is it just too hard to win games for

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01:48:56,520 --> 01:48:58,680
Speaker 1: three and a half four months in the NFL? Or

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01:48:58,800 --> 01:49:00,759
Speaker 1: is it is it the weather that big a factor?

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01:49:01,080 --> 01:49:03,160
Speaker 1: What do you I mean? Because it happened last year too.

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01:49:03,320 --> 01:49:04,880
Speaker 1: Bucky and the Chiefs got out to a six and

2278
01:49:04,920 --> 01:49:07,320
Speaker 1: those start fast start and they were out of the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: What do you attribute to these teams who start out

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Speaker 1: so fast and just can't keep it together late in

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01:49:11,840 --> 01:49:14,920
Speaker 1: the season. I think the early part of the season

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01:49:15,040 --> 01:49:18,320
Speaker 1: plays for the offense is favor I think those guys

2283
01:49:18,320 --> 01:49:20,720
Speaker 1: are able to get in rhythm and is always the

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01:49:20,800 --> 01:49:24,400
Speaker 1: specter of the unknown. As you begin to play more games,

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01:49:24,400 --> 01:49:27,040
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator to get more tape. They have a

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01:49:27,120 --> 01:49:30,080
Speaker 1: tendency to hone into your tendessee, the tendensees of the

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01:49:30,120 --> 01:49:32,880
Speaker 1: play caller and the players. They can begin to kind

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01:49:32,960 --> 01:49:37,639
Speaker 1: of suffocate and squeeze the offenses and also the teams

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01:49:37,680 --> 01:49:41,080
Speaker 1: that are really overly reliant on the passing game. When

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01:49:41,160 --> 01:49:43,839
Speaker 1: it changes and you have to start playing an inclement condition,

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01:49:44,360 --> 01:49:47,400
Speaker 1: it doesn't really play to your strength. I mean, I

2292
01:49:47,479 --> 01:49:49,639
Speaker 1: think Steve, you were a golfer. You understand the ball

2293
01:49:49,680 --> 01:49:51,800
Speaker 1: doesn't flash far and cold weather as it does in

2294
01:49:51,960 --> 01:49:54,679
Speaker 1: warm weather, and so the time it becomes a game

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01:49:54,760 --> 01:49:56,800
Speaker 1: where you have to begin to run the ball, you

2296
01:49:56,840 --> 01:49:59,360
Speaker 1: have to play a little more controlled. And I just

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01:49:59,479 --> 01:50:02,080
Speaker 1: think teams have to get an understanding of how to

2298
01:50:02,240 --> 01:50:04,360
Speaker 1: play the game and what they need to do to

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01:50:04,479 --> 01:50:07,560
Speaker 1: win games later in the year, and I think some

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Speaker 1: of the regression of those guys coming back to the

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01:50:10,479 --> 01:50:13,040
Speaker 1: pack is because guys have a clear understanding of how

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Speaker 1: to play those teams and they're able to kind of

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01:50:15,120 --> 01:50:18,040
Speaker 1: muck up the game to bring it to a fourth

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Speaker 1: quarter affair. And I think that's what we've seen as

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Speaker 1: weation weeks. But yeah, I just got one more for you,

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Speaker 1: and it deals with the team that I've adopted as

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Speaker 1: my playoff team, the Los Angeles Chargers, and all the

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Speaker 1: take for Anthony Lynn to get recognized for the job

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01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:32,559
Speaker 1: he's done. He's he's got a strong resume for Coach

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Speaker 1: of the Year, doesn't he this year with the Chargers? Oh?

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Speaker 1: I think so. I think he has a strong resume.

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Speaker 1: I think he's one an outstanding job. But one of

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Speaker 1: the twenty one four last twenty five games in LA

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Speaker 1: A lot of times the credit always goes to the quarterback,

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01:50:46,000 --> 01:50:48,160
Speaker 1: but when you look at the Charges, the Charges are

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01:50:48,320 --> 01:50:51,320
Speaker 1: much tougher team than they were before he got there.

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01:50:52,000 --> 01:50:54,360
Speaker 1: They have the ability to generate the explosive players, their

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01:50:54,439 --> 01:50:57,040
Speaker 1: defensive lights out. And then he has done a good

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01:50:57,120 --> 01:50:59,920
Speaker 1: job of getting Philip Rivers to kind of buy into

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01:50:59,960 --> 01:51:02,920
Speaker 1: the notion of playing winning football is turnovers and down

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01:51:03,240 --> 01:51:05,599
Speaker 1: he's not taking the negative plays in fact, and they've

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01:51:05,640 --> 01:51:08,200
Speaker 1: been able to muster a running game. I think Anthony

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01:51:08,320 --> 01:51:09,960
Speaker 1: Lynn has done a really good job of kind of

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01:51:10,080 --> 01:51:11,760
Speaker 1: learning how to be a head coach on the block,

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01:51:12,080 --> 01:51:14,160
Speaker 1: but the results have been spectac and bring him in La.

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Speaker 1: If you could give us a quick list, what's your

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Speaker 1: short list of guys who are in the conversation for

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Speaker 1: coach of the year. Certainly maybe the guy in Chicago

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Speaker 1: neege Anthony Lynn. Who are some other guys that have

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01:51:24,640 --> 01:51:29,280
Speaker 1: maybe overperformed and surprisingly so you No, it's funny because

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01:51:29,280 --> 01:51:31,439
Speaker 1: their lists, like everyone wants to talk about Andy to

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01:51:31,479 --> 01:51:33,240
Speaker 1: Sean McGain, those guys. But I think the job that

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01:51:33,280 --> 01:51:36,280
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll has done with the Seattle Seaws, they're remaking

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01:51:36,360 --> 01:51:39,519
Speaker 1: them into maybe a legitimate playoff contender. I think he

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01:51:39,640 --> 01:51:42,519
Speaker 1: deserves credit. But I think Matteggie and what he's been

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01:51:42,520 --> 01:51:45,240
Speaker 1: able to do in Chicago has been remarkable. First year

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01:51:45,280 --> 01:51:47,280
Speaker 1: head coach goes in there, they win double digits, they

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01:51:47,320 --> 01:51:51,360
Speaker 1: claim the division. He keeps the beef as a coordinator.

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01:51:51,800 --> 01:51:54,360
Speaker 1: But the other guys, our old teammate Frank wright Man,

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01:51:54,439 --> 01:51:56,880
Speaker 1: what Frank has done in Indianapolis, I don't know if

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01:51:56,880 --> 01:51:59,240
Speaker 1: you've seen those guys and how they're playing lately. They're

2342
01:51:59,280 --> 01:52:02,720
Speaker 1: playing smack football, flying to the ball on defense. He

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01:52:02,880 --> 01:52:05,040
Speaker 1: has really done a good job of helping Andrew Luck

2344
01:52:05,080 --> 01:52:08,120
Speaker 1: in terms of getting the ball out of his hand. Um, yoke,

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01:52:08,160 --> 01:52:10,439
Speaker 1: I knew you're smart. I knew it would be a

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01:52:10,600 --> 01:52:13,000
Speaker 1: really good head coach. I had no idea who'd be

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01:52:13,320 --> 01:52:16,200
Speaker 1: this good of a head coach. This is queer really

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01:52:16,240 --> 01:52:18,360
Speaker 1: good point. Hey, Bucky, thanks for this. We appreciate your

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01:52:18,400 --> 01:52:21,040
Speaker 1: time today. Thank you very much. Hey, thanks so much

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01:52:21,040 --> 01:52:23,160
Speaker 1: for having me. Go all right, Bucky Bucky Brooks, NFL

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01:52:23,240 --> 01:52:25,960
Speaker 1: dot Com, NFL Network, He writes, he does a video.

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01:52:26,240 --> 01:52:28,479
Speaker 1: He does it all. Former Bills wide receiver in ninety four,

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01:52:28,560 --> 01:52:31,320
Speaker 1: played for five teams in his NFL career. Bucky joined

2354
01:52:31,400 --> 01:52:34,080
Speaker 1: us on the Subway Fresh Tank kutline presented by Subway

2355
01:52:34,160 --> 01:52:36,880
Speaker 1: Restaurants probably be locally owned and operated. A lot of

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01:52:36,920 --> 01:52:38,800
Speaker 1: good points there, a lot of good points about the

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01:52:38,840 --> 01:52:42,639
Speaker 1: Bills and and uh and maybe the potential. Basically, he's

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01:52:42,720 --> 01:52:45,600
Speaker 1: confirmed that it might be time to think about a

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01:52:45,720 --> 01:52:47,840
Speaker 1: changeover from the Patriots. As somebody Outyeah, there might be

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01:52:47,840 --> 01:52:52,400
Speaker 1: a power shifts slow they're slow team. Yeah, and that's

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01:52:52,479 --> 01:52:56,240
Speaker 1: interesting because yeah, if you characterize me, yeah, I think

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01:52:56,240 --> 01:52:58,080
Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, you're right, he is right. I don't

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01:52:58,120 --> 01:53:02,080
Speaker 1: know about defensively speaking, but offensively, you know, they don't

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01:53:02,120 --> 01:53:04,080
Speaker 1: have a you know, Randy Moss type of guy out

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01:53:04,120 --> 01:53:05,439
Speaker 1: there like they did at one point when they were

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01:53:05,479 --> 01:53:10,920
Speaker 1: winning every game. That may they kind of rely on

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01:53:11,120 --> 01:53:13,800
Speaker 1: Gronkowski and his ability to get open and be in

2368
01:53:13,840 --> 01:53:17,360
Speaker 1: a big target for plays. I think teams are getting

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01:53:17,400 --> 01:53:19,120
Speaker 1: to handle on what he's good at, what he's not

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01:53:19,160 --> 01:53:21,600
Speaker 1: good at, and forced him to do things kind of

2371
01:53:21,680 --> 01:53:24,479
Speaker 1: left handed almost to get open and to do things.

2372
01:53:25,479 --> 01:53:27,639
Speaker 1: They've figured out ways to take the tight end away.

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01:53:28,120 --> 01:53:31,439
Speaker 1: And if once you do that, then you know they

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01:53:31,600 --> 01:53:33,719
Speaker 1: kind of asked the Patriots to beat you. With everybody

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01:53:33,760 --> 01:53:37,320
Speaker 1: else he had listen, Edelman still complain. Edelman had a

2376
01:53:37,360 --> 01:53:40,000
Speaker 1: great game against the Bills two months ago. Grenkowski had

2377
01:53:40,040 --> 01:53:43,920
Speaker 1: two catches last Sunday against Pittsburgh for negligible yardage. You know,

2378
01:53:44,040 --> 01:53:46,360
Speaker 1: he had the he's putting a bad spot in Miami

2379
01:53:46,439 --> 01:53:49,720
Speaker 1: to try to cover that crazy Miami miracle lateral play.

2380
01:53:49,720 --> 01:53:52,240
Speaker 1: He didn't look good doing that. Some people think this

2381
01:53:52,400 --> 01:53:54,120
Speaker 1: might be the beginning of the end for Gronk. You know,

2382
01:53:54,200 --> 01:53:56,519
Speaker 1: we talk about how much longer for Brady with his

2383
01:53:56,680 --> 01:53:59,320
Speaker 1: back issues and all the injuries he's gone through. Some

2384
01:53:59,439 --> 01:54:01,479
Speaker 1: people think this is the end of the line for Gronk,

2385
01:54:01,520 --> 01:54:04,320
Speaker 1: maybe the last game he plays ever against the Bills.

2386
01:54:04,320 --> 01:54:06,479
Speaker 1: Coming up to Suddon Now, he wasn't hesitant about saying,

2387
01:54:06,560 --> 01:54:09,320
Speaker 1: you know, he you know, he's kind of thinking about retiring,

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01:54:09,520 --> 01:54:11,880
Speaker 1: you know, year or two ago and right, and they

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01:54:11,880 --> 01:54:14,800
Speaker 1: were thinking about trading him. And so I do think,

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01:54:14,920 --> 01:54:17,519
Speaker 1: you know, he's a guy that's, for lack of a

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01:54:17,600 --> 01:54:19,240
Speaker 1: better way to use, maybe maybe he's a little bit

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01:54:19,320 --> 01:54:21,679
Speaker 1: used up. You know, maybe he's had it. And listen, listen,

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01:54:23,000 --> 01:54:26,240
Speaker 1: nobody plays in the NFL with a bigger target on

2394
01:54:26,280 --> 01:54:28,200
Speaker 1: their back than Gronk. I mean, he is the He

2395
01:54:28,360 --> 01:54:31,120
Speaker 1: is the focal point of every defense. He gets every

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01:54:31,240 --> 01:54:33,840
Speaker 1: extra little shot that they can give him. They tackle

2397
01:54:33,960 --> 01:54:36,200
Speaker 1: him hard every time. He's a big guy. But man,

2398
01:54:36,280 --> 01:54:38,360
Speaker 1: that wears on you. And and for a guy like

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01:54:38,560 --> 01:54:40,880
Speaker 1: Gronk who's been through some catastrophic in you know, he

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01:54:40,920 --> 01:54:43,560
Speaker 1: had the the ACL knee gone, he had you know,

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01:54:43,640 --> 01:54:45,920
Speaker 1: all these injuries that have happened when his body's you know,

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01:54:46,000 --> 01:54:48,280
Speaker 1: he was taking shots and that does wear on you,

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01:54:48,440 --> 01:54:51,400
Speaker 1: and you know, let's face it, hopefully. I mean, he's

2404
01:54:51,440 --> 01:54:53,800
Speaker 1: made a pile of money. He could look at himself

2405
01:54:53,840 --> 01:54:55,400
Speaker 1: in the mirror one day and says, you know, it's

2406
01:54:55,400 --> 01:54:57,960
Speaker 1: just not worth it anymore. And I'm certainly he can

2407
01:54:58,040 --> 01:55:01,240
Speaker 1: make money doing movies or wrestling yourself consperiously whatever he want,

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01:55:01,360 --> 01:55:04,760
Speaker 1: commercial endorsements and yeah, and makes national figure. Take it

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01:55:04,800 --> 01:55:07,480
Speaker 1: from a guy who does car commercials. They't nobody's beating

2410
01:55:07,520 --> 01:55:10,320
Speaker 1: you up when you do car you know, they don't.

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01:55:10,400 --> 01:55:12,040
Speaker 1: You can get you can get a quick release off

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01:55:12,080 --> 01:55:15,040
Speaker 1: the line when you're doing car commercials. Nobody, nobody, nobody's

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01:55:15,200 --> 01:55:17,320
Speaker 1: beating you up. So it's easier to wake up the

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01:55:17,360 --> 01:55:19,560
Speaker 1: next day after doing car commercials. And is playing against

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01:55:19,560 --> 01:55:21,520
Speaker 1: an NFL defense. What did you make of what Bucky

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01:55:21,600 --> 01:55:24,360
Speaker 1: Brooks said about the importance of having a run game

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01:55:24,360 --> 01:55:26,879
Speaker 1: And a lot of people don't believe that Bucky's basically

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01:55:27,480 --> 01:55:29,880
Speaker 1: hung his hat on weather. You know, he said after Thanksgiving,

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01:55:30,000 --> 01:55:32,560
Speaker 1: you can't count on throwing it the way you did

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01:55:32,640 --> 01:55:34,760
Speaker 1: before Thanksgiving. In the NFL. A lot of people would

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01:55:34,800 --> 01:55:36,880
Speaker 1: laugh at that and say the weather doesn't mean anything.

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01:55:37,240 --> 01:55:39,760
Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks, who knows what he's talking about it says, yeah,

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01:55:39,800 --> 01:55:41,720
Speaker 1: it does, do you need I think? I think another

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01:55:41,920 --> 01:55:44,920
Speaker 1: aspect of it that goes with a little bit under

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01:55:44,920 --> 01:55:50,440
Speaker 1: the radars. People don't realize how effective NFL coaches are

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01:55:50,880 --> 01:55:54,000
Speaker 1: at dissecting what an offense or defense is trying to

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01:55:54,120 --> 01:55:56,240
Speaker 1: do and why they're trying to do it. And the

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01:55:56,320 --> 01:55:59,480
Speaker 1: more film you have is the season gets longer, you

2429
01:55:59,640 --> 01:56:02,680
Speaker 1: have a more and more of a clear identity about

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01:56:02,760 --> 01:56:05,480
Speaker 1: what an offense is really able to do and capable

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01:56:05,520 --> 01:56:07,840
Speaker 1: of doing and willing to do, and what they want

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01:56:07,960 --> 01:56:12,560
Speaker 1: no part of doing. And defenders, defensive coordinators and coaches,

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01:56:14,160 --> 01:56:16,720
Speaker 1: particularly the ones with the really good players who listen

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01:56:16,800 --> 01:56:18,880
Speaker 1: to what they're doing. You know, these discipline players who

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01:56:18,920 --> 01:56:21,720
Speaker 1: are willing to like the Detroit Lions did last week,

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01:56:21,760 --> 01:56:24,840
Speaker 1: they didn't rush josh Alan, they just stayed there. And

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01:56:25,160 --> 01:56:27,200
Speaker 1: it's harder to get guys to do that. But as

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01:56:27,240 --> 01:56:29,640
Speaker 1: the season gets long, these coordinators come up with these

2439
01:56:29,720 --> 01:56:31,800
Speaker 1: plans and they listen, if they're gonna beat us, we're

2440
01:56:31,800 --> 01:56:34,800
Speaker 1: going to force them to beat us doing exactly what

2441
01:56:35,000 --> 01:56:37,320
Speaker 1: they don't want to do. We're trying to get them

2442
01:56:37,320 --> 01:56:40,320
Speaker 1: to beat us left handed. And the clearer the identities

2443
01:56:40,360 --> 01:56:43,840
Speaker 1: of NFL teams, both on offense and defense, become the

2444
01:56:44,040 --> 01:56:47,800
Speaker 1: more they are attacked and exactly the way that hurts

2445
01:56:47,840 --> 01:56:50,880
Speaker 1: them the most that you can get with film study,

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01:56:51,920 --> 01:56:54,640
Speaker 1: they'll get down to even individual matchups for they man,

2447
01:56:54,680 --> 01:56:56,800
Speaker 1: they do not want this guy on an island, so

2448
01:56:56,920 --> 01:56:58,640
Speaker 1: we're going to get him on an island. And they

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01:56:58,680 --> 01:57:01,879
Speaker 1: have the ability to do that with formations, personnel groupings

2450
01:57:01,920 --> 01:57:06,560
Speaker 1: and shifts so defensive. And he's right, he said it.

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01:57:07,000 --> 01:57:12,520
Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks said, you know the coordinators, and he said,

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01:57:13,200 --> 01:57:16,680
Speaker 1: you get deep into the season, you know who they are.

2453
01:57:17,200 --> 01:57:19,800
Speaker 1: They are who they are, and you can't get around it.

2454
01:57:19,920 --> 01:57:22,200
Speaker 1: And you'll get these teams that just you can ask

2455
01:57:22,280 --> 01:57:25,160
Speaker 1: them to do things they just can't do, and they

2456
01:57:25,200 --> 01:57:27,640
Speaker 1: start losing games because of it. All Right, it's good.

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01:57:27,880 --> 01:57:29,800
Speaker 1: I always learned when Bucky Brooks is with us. We

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01:57:29,880 --> 01:57:32,440
Speaker 1: appreciate the fact that we probably kept him a little

2459
01:57:32,440 --> 01:57:34,200
Speaker 1: too long, But I like talking to him. He's got

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01:57:34,400 --> 01:57:36,520
Speaker 1: and when the draft comes around, he's as good as anybody.

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01:57:36,640 --> 01:57:38,480
Speaker 1: He's money on the draft. He knows what he's doing.

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01:57:38,680 --> 01:57:42,680
Speaker 1: And listen, I've I've tipped my hatch him because to

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01:57:43,040 --> 01:57:45,960
Speaker 1: be that good, you got to travel. Yeah, you gotta

2464
01:57:46,000 --> 01:57:48,120
Speaker 1: go out and you gotta get on the street and

2465
01:57:48,360 --> 01:57:51,560
Speaker 1: go out to practices and spring football and watch film

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01:57:51,640 --> 01:57:55,720
Speaker 1: in these places. And yeah, man, old man, oh man. Yeah,

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01:57:55,760 --> 01:57:57,480
Speaker 1: thanks to Bucky Brooks. He was great, great to talk

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01:57:57,480 --> 01:57:58,600
Speaker 1: with him. We got a lot more to come on

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01:57:58,640 --> 01:58:00,880
Speaker 1: the show here, including and I felt true and false

2470
01:58:01,200 --> 01:58:03,560
Speaker 1: and Josh Allen, we talk about him a lot. Fifty

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01:58:03,600 --> 01:58:07,280
Speaker 1: two percent completion percentage? Is that substandard? Could it be better?

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01:58:07,360 --> 01:58:09,520
Speaker 1: We'll hear what the coach says about that, plus your thoughts.

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01:58:09,800 --> 01:58:13,320
Speaker 1: The Bills lost badly nineteen point lost in New England

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01:58:13,360 --> 01:58:15,760
Speaker 1: back two months ago, October twenty ninth, Monday Night football

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01:58:15,760 --> 01:58:17,880
Speaker 1: here on Archard Park. Are they better now? And the

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01:58:18,000 --> 01:58:19,720
Speaker 1: last time they played the Patriots? What do you think?

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01:58:19,880 --> 01:58:21,680
Speaker 1: Let's take some of your phone calls and discuss that

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Speaker 1: eight oh three five fifty and toll free one eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty, or you can

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01:58:27,120 --> 01:58:28,880
Speaker 1: tweet in a response. We might read it on the

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01:58:28,920 --> 01:58:31,120
Speaker 1: tweet sheet. All of that coming up when we return.

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Speaker 1: Come on back. One Goal's Live presented by Colta Health

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01:58:33,840 --> 01:58:36,680
Speaker 1: from One Goals Drive and this is Buffalo Bills Radio.

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01:58:45,960 --> 01:58:49,600
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Showtime now for milestones presented by

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Speaker 1: Red's Jewelers. The official jeweler of the Buffalo Bills Milestones,

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01:58:54,120 --> 01:58:56,800
Speaker 1: Robert Foster. He's exploded onto the scene. He had one

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01:58:56,920 --> 01:58:59,560
Speaker 1: hundred eight receiving yards Sunday against the Lions, the first

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01:59:00,080 --> 01:59:03,880
Speaker 1: undrafted rookie free agent in Bill's history to have consecutive

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01:59:04,280 --> 01:59:08,960
Speaker 1: one hundred yard games. Pretty impressive. That's big. It wasn't

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01:59:08,960 --> 01:59:10,840
Speaker 1: even on the roster when they played the Patriots two

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01:59:10,840 --> 01:59:15,000
Speaker 1: months ago. He was on the practice spot. He's making plays. Yeah,

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01:59:15,080 --> 01:59:16,720
Speaker 1: I mean that a lot of things have changed. I mean,

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01:59:16,800 --> 01:59:20,080
Speaker 1: certainly they've changed for different reasons. The Bills starting to

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01:59:20,120 --> 01:59:21,880
Speaker 1: look at young guys. They wanted to get more speed

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01:59:21,960 --> 01:59:25,160
Speaker 1: in their offense, and certainly they have done that. It's

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01:59:25,200 --> 01:59:27,920
Speaker 1: interesting that we just had Bucky Brooks on the show

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01:59:28,160 --> 01:59:32,920
Speaker 1: last segment and he characterized the Patriots as a slow

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01:59:33,160 --> 01:59:37,360
Speaker 1: football team, one who really is challenged to get explosive plays. Offensively.

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01:59:37,760 --> 01:59:39,720
Speaker 1: I hadn't thought about that, but I think he's right.

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01:59:40,080 --> 01:59:45,520
Speaker 1: I think he's right. Defensively, the Patriots are aren't even

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01:59:45,560 --> 01:59:48,480
Speaker 1: in the same league as the Buffalo Bills defense, and

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01:59:48,640 --> 01:59:50,600
Speaker 1: yet they're a team that's you know, they're nine and

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01:59:50,680 --> 01:59:53,640
Speaker 1: four working their way towards the playoffs and trying to

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01:59:53,680 --> 01:59:59,080
Speaker 1: get back to the first round. By they're chasing, was

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01:59:59,120 --> 02:00:03,560
Speaker 1: that the Chiefs trying to get into the Yeah, they're

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02:00:03,560 --> 02:00:07,040
Speaker 1: trying to chase the Chiefs to get into the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: They are the New England Patriots are nine and five.

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02:00:09,480 --> 02:00:11,560
Speaker 1: Houston is ten and four. That's who they're chasing. Houston

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02:00:11,640 --> 02:00:14,280
Speaker 1: ten and four. Houston's the second seed. But Houston's got

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02:00:14,320 --> 02:00:18,600
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts coming into Houston this weekend. New England's

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02:00:18,640 --> 02:00:20,640
Speaker 1: chasing them down, trying to trying to get them, and

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02:00:20,720 --> 02:00:23,080
Speaker 1: Houston's gonna have their hands full with Andrew Luck. The

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02:00:23,160 --> 02:00:25,280
Speaker 1: Bill's better now than they were when they lost to

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Speaker 1: the Patriots two months ago. We got open phone lines.

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Speaker 1: Give us a call eight oh three oh five fifty

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Speaker 1: toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 1: We'll get the calls. And back to the tweet sheet.

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Speaker 1: In a moment, Bucky Berkshire just on with us from

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Speaker 1: NFL Network talking about quarterbacks, Josh Allen in particular, and mentioned,

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02:00:41,520 --> 02:00:43,160
Speaker 1: you know, I thought it was a good point. See

2521
02:00:43,240 --> 02:00:45,720
Speaker 1: when Bucky Brooks said, look for a guy who's had

2522
02:00:45,720 --> 02:00:49,240
Speaker 1: a historically low complete your percentage in college. He's moving

2523
02:00:49,280 --> 02:00:51,800
Speaker 1: down that track again so far. The use of him

2524
02:00:51,840 --> 02:00:54,040
Speaker 1: as a runner makes it important to his game. I

2525
02:00:54,080 --> 02:00:57,200
Speaker 1: thought there was pretty interesting. I've never thought makes it

2526
02:00:57,320 --> 02:01:01,160
Speaker 1: less important his completion percentage is less important Josh Allen's

2527
02:01:01,200 --> 02:01:03,400
Speaker 1: game than it is to all these other guys who aren't,

2528
02:01:03,720 --> 02:01:07,120
Speaker 1: you know, making first downs with their feet. That's an

2529
02:01:07,200 --> 02:01:09,480
Speaker 1: interesting taken. I think it's true. I think you've seen

2530
02:01:09,600 --> 02:01:15,000
Speaker 1: some guys who had that reputation. Certainly Deshaun Watson down

2531
02:01:15,080 --> 02:01:17,200
Speaker 1: in Houston, he's doing a really nice time. He throws

2532
02:01:17,240 --> 02:01:19,440
Speaker 1: the football really well, and him runs with his legs

2533
02:01:19,480 --> 02:01:21,280
Speaker 1: once in a while when he has to. Certainly, the

2534
02:01:21,400 --> 02:01:25,440
Speaker 1: success that Lamar Jackson has had in Baltimore, certainly Baltimore

2535
02:01:25,560 --> 02:01:28,360
Speaker 1: was a team more set up for success immediately with

2536
02:01:28,560 --> 02:01:32,120
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson than the Buffalo Bills were when Josh Allen.

2537
02:01:33,160 --> 02:01:35,440
Speaker 1: You know, Lamar Jackson wasn't even supposed to play this year.

2538
02:01:35,520 --> 02:01:38,040
Speaker 1: Remember they were using him as an afterthought maybe in

2539
02:01:38,120 --> 02:01:42,160
Speaker 1: some trick run plays, and Joe Flacco's back didn't hold up.

2540
02:01:42,240 --> 02:01:44,720
Speaker 1: He went to the sidelines for a month. And all

2541
02:01:44,800 --> 02:01:48,160
Speaker 1: they do with Lamar Jackson's win, and they're using him

2542
02:01:48,200 --> 02:01:50,480
Speaker 1: in a variety of ways, and they're getting it done.

2543
02:01:50,560 --> 02:01:52,240
Speaker 1: And now to the point where he's going to stay

2544
02:01:52,280 --> 02:01:54,840
Speaker 1: on the field and Joe Flacco is healthy. That's big.

2545
02:01:55,760 --> 02:01:58,680
Speaker 1: That's big, And I think I think Bucky didn't really

2546
02:01:58,720 --> 02:02:02,200
Speaker 1: agree with me, but I still would maintain that the

2547
02:02:02,320 --> 02:02:05,080
Speaker 1: league has changed a little bit in regards to quarterbacks

2548
02:02:05,160 --> 02:02:08,040
Speaker 1: who have that about him, the Michael Vicks, the Steve

2549
02:02:08,160 --> 02:02:13,760
Speaker 1: Young kind of running quarterbacks, that it's safer for them

2550
02:02:13,840 --> 02:02:16,960
Speaker 1: to do that these days. If you want to slide, slide,

2551
02:02:17,200 --> 02:02:19,480
Speaker 1: even if you had dive, you're not they can't hit you.

2552
02:02:20,440 --> 02:02:23,040
Speaker 1: And if you can incorporate it in with the RPOs,

2553
02:02:23,040 --> 02:02:28,200
Speaker 1: the run pass options, your quarterback, if he's careful, can

2554
02:02:28,360 --> 02:02:31,040
Speaker 1: make hay in a running game and supplement the offense

2555
02:02:31,200 --> 02:02:33,520
Speaker 1: that way in a way that I don't think it's

2556
02:02:33,560 --> 02:02:36,080
Speaker 1: been possible in years past. The knock, of course, on

2557
02:02:36,240 --> 02:02:38,280
Speaker 1: Josh Allen going all the way back to his career

2558
02:02:38,320 --> 02:02:42,120
Speaker 1: at myoming before the draft was accuracy, right, not accurate,

2559
02:02:42,200 --> 02:02:45,600
Speaker 1: And people pointed to his completion percentage in his college

2560
02:02:45,640 --> 02:02:48,600
Speaker 1: career and so far nine starts in his NFL career,

2561
02:02:49,320 --> 02:02:52,720
Speaker 1: his completion percentage is substandard. Right, last week He was

2562
02:02:52,800 --> 02:02:56,040
Speaker 1: fifty percent against the Jets, fifty percent eighteen to thirty

2563
02:02:56,080 --> 02:02:59,120
Speaker 1: six against the Dolphins, fifty five percent eighteen to thirty

2564
02:02:59,160 --> 02:03:02,000
Speaker 1: three against the Jaguars. He was eight of nineteen forty

2565
02:03:02,000 --> 02:03:05,080
Speaker 1: two percent for the season in his nine starts plus

2566
02:03:05,160 --> 02:03:07,760
Speaker 1: one other game. Josh Allen is a fifty two percent

2567
02:03:07,840 --> 02:03:10,920
Speaker 1: completion percentage. It's not good, but maybe you get by

2568
02:03:11,000 --> 02:03:14,400
Speaker 1: without that. Sean McDermott was having you go ahead, I

2569
02:03:14,600 --> 02:03:17,240
Speaker 1: get it, and it's true. There are some throws that

2570
02:03:17,880 --> 02:03:19,560
Speaker 1: don't look all that great particular, and for me, I

2571
02:03:19,600 --> 02:03:22,000
Speaker 1: always noticed the little ones that he should complete, that

2572
02:03:22,120 --> 02:03:24,680
Speaker 1: he throws into their feet or whatever, but it never

2573
02:03:24,800 --> 02:03:27,760
Speaker 1: really struck. And I don't look at Josh. I hate.

2574
02:03:28,000 --> 02:03:29,560
Speaker 1: I hate to do this, but I'm gonna do it anyway.

2575
02:03:29,880 --> 02:03:32,520
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's not like EJ Manuel where he's

2576
02:03:32,560 --> 02:03:35,280
Speaker 1: hitting the band leader in the head standing in the balcony.

2577
02:03:35,320 --> 02:03:36,560
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I know what you're saying.

2578
02:03:36,560 --> 02:03:38,560
Speaker 1: I mean, Josh will miss a guy once in a while,

2579
02:03:39,080 --> 02:03:42,360
Speaker 1: but he's not. You're not seeing him throw the football.

2580
02:03:42,440 --> 02:03:44,240
Speaker 1: Go wow, where is that going? Right? You know, You're

2581
02:03:44,240 --> 02:03:46,680
Speaker 1: just not like, oh my god. You know you're grabbing

2582
02:03:46,680 --> 02:03:48,520
Speaker 1: your head going, oh my god, I just you know,

2583
02:03:48,640 --> 02:03:51,520
Speaker 1: he misses some throws, but he's not you know, throwing

2584
02:03:51,560 --> 02:03:54,000
Speaker 1: it into the hospitality tent, right, And I think it

2585
02:03:54,040 --> 02:03:56,040
Speaker 1: also goes to it. We got into this and after

2586
02:03:56,120 --> 02:03:59,240
Speaker 1: the drafted training camp that completion percentage may not be

2587
02:03:59,400 --> 02:04:02,440
Speaker 1: the best assessment of a quarterbacks accuracy. It might not be.

2588
02:04:02,560 --> 02:04:04,840
Speaker 1: It's it's one measure. It's also a function of what

2589
02:04:04,960 --> 02:04:07,640
Speaker 1: type of passes is Josh Allen is attempting. We talked

2590
02:04:07,680 --> 02:04:10,280
Speaker 1: about it yesterday or maybe last Friday, about the deep

2591
02:04:10,320 --> 02:04:13,440
Speaker 1: pass component that the Bills try more than mostly any

2592
02:04:13,480 --> 02:04:15,440
Speaker 1: other team in the NFL. They try the deep passes.

2593
02:04:16,040 --> 02:04:18,280
Speaker 1: Sean McDermot was asked about it yesterday. So a fifty

2594
02:04:18,320 --> 02:04:21,440
Speaker 1: two percent completion percentage for Josh Allen so far in

2595
02:04:21,520 --> 02:04:23,760
Speaker 1: his rookie season. McDermott was asked, how much of it

2596
02:04:23,840 --> 02:04:26,880
Speaker 1: all you concern yourself with Alan's low completion rate? And

2597
02:04:26,920 --> 02:04:30,120
Speaker 1: here's what he had to say, not too much. I

2598
02:04:30,160 --> 02:04:31,840
Speaker 1: mean I look at try and strip it down and

2599
02:04:31,920 --> 02:04:35,080
Speaker 1: just look at you know, where he went with the football.

2600
02:04:35,240 --> 02:04:36,920
Speaker 1: Was he going through his progression and how he stayed

2601
02:04:36,920 --> 02:04:38,920
Speaker 1: in the pocket. Did he stay in the pocket did

2602
02:04:38,920 --> 02:04:41,480
Speaker 1: he leave the pocket. And then at the end of

2603
02:04:41,520 --> 02:04:44,600
Speaker 1: the game, the throws that he's making, whether it's a

2604
02:04:44,600 --> 02:04:48,040
Speaker 1: two minute drive, red zone situation when the game's on

2605
02:04:48,120 --> 02:04:51,040
Speaker 1: the line, and Josh has done that already at this

2606
02:04:51,160 --> 02:04:53,480
Speaker 1: point in his young career, where he's made big time

2607
02:04:53,560 --> 02:04:55,880
Speaker 1: throws and big time moments of the game. You go

2608
02:04:56,120 --> 02:04:58,160
Speaker 1: yesterday and you look at obviously the throw that everyone

2609
02:04:58,240 --> 02:05:00,640
Speaker 1: sees to Robert on the big play, but you go

2610
02:05:00,800 --> 02:05:02,800
Speaker 1: in the four minute mode on offense and where I

2611
02:05:02,880 --> 02:05:05,880
Speaker 1: believe it was second down and situation there where they

2612
02:05:05,960 --> 02:05:07,960
Speaker 1: packed the box with eleven guys in the box and

2613
02:05:08,560 --> 02:05:11,440
Speaker 1: and we made a throw to Jason, and Jason, to

2614
02:05:11,560 --> 02:05:13,200
Speaker 1: his credit, went up and got it. But Josh made

2615
02:05:13,200 --> 02:05:16,480
Speaker 1: a good throw in a tight window there, and that

2616
02:05:16,600 --> 02:05:18,920
Speaker 1: was a big time, big time moment the game. And look,

2617
02:05:18,960 --> 02:05:21,480
Speaker 1: I get it's even and you know, a cursory look

2618
02:05:21,560 --> 02:05:25,160
Speaker 1: at Allan's stats right now, you'd say, whoa fifty two

2619
02:05:25,200 --> 02:05:28,880
Speaker 1: percent completion percentage. That's not good. We knew he was inaccurate.

2620
02:05:29,280 --> 02:05:31,880
Speaker 1: Guy who's with him every day, Sean McDermott, and those

2621
02:05:31,880 --> 02:05:35,160
Speaker 1: of us who watched pretty much closely every day, would say, yeah, okay,

2622
02:05:36,080 --> 02:05:38,040
Speaker 1: look at the passes he's made, look at the plays

2623
02:05:38,080 --> 02:05:40,080
Speaker 1: he's made, look at the passes he's asked to try

2624
02:05:40,120 --> 02:05:42,760
Speaker 1: to complete. And McDermot kind of points that out, and

2625
02:05:42,880 --> 02:05:45,160
Speaker 1: McDermott also pointed out some of the other development, including

2626
02:05:45,200 --> 02:05:47,240
Speaker 1: a four minute offense the other day that was, you know,

2627
02:05:47,440 --> 02:05:49,880
Speaker 1: sealed the wind. There's you got to look at it

2628
02:05:49,920 --> 02:05:52,480
Speaker 1: a little bit more than just fifty two percent completion percentage.

2629
02:05:52,520 --> 02:05:55,120
Speaker 1: And even before that number was posted this week, I

2630
02:05:55,200 --> 02:05:57,520
Speaker 1: thought that Josh may never be a sixty percent passer

2631
02:05:57,560 --> 02:05:59,560
Speaker 1: or sixty five percent pass or anything like that. But

2632
02:05:59,680 --> 02:06:01,600
Speaker 1: you know what the bottom line is, are you gonna

2633
02:06:01,600 --> 02:06:03,240
Speaker 1: be able to build an offense and a team around

2634
02:06:03,280 --> 02:06:05,320
Speaker 1: a guy and win games? And I don't think there's

2635
02:06:05,360 --> 02:06:07,120
Speaker 1: any question that this is a guy that you got

2636
02:06:07,240 --> 02:06:09,520
Speaker 1: to say, Yeah, I think you know, you got a

2637
02:06:09,560 --> 02:06:11,160
Speaker 1: lot of coaching staffs out there. I'd love to get

2638
02:06:11,200 --> 02:06:13,640
Speaker 1: their hands on Josh Allen in their offense and build

2639
02:06:13,680 --> 02:06:16,560
Speaker 1: something around him. Certainly the throw that he made, and

2640
02:06:16,680 --> 02:06:19,040
Speaker 1: I've seen and I think, I don't know if you've

2641
02:06:19,040 --> 02:06:20,960
Speaker 1: been paying attention, if you don't say he's getting better.

2642
02:06:21,320 --> 02:06:24,080
Speaker 1: I do the throw to Croom to end the game,

2643
02:06:24,160 --> 02:06:25,800
Speaker 1: to give him the twenty five yard game. Give him

2644
02:06:25,800 --> 02:06:27,000
Speaker 1: that first down at the end of the game on

2645
02:06:27,080 --> 02:06:30,880
Speaker 1: that third and whatever it was a great was a

2646
02:06:30,960 --> 02:06:33,200
Speaker 1: really good throw. Certainly took a great catch to get it.

2647
02:06:34,160 --> 02:06:36,320
Speaker 1: But that's you got to get that from every team.

2648
02:06:37,520 --> 02:06:38,960
Speaker 1: I think the fact that he threw a bunch of

2649
02:06:39,040 --> 02:06:41,720
Speaker 1: them away last week was a plus, not a minus.

2650
02:06:41,760 --> 02:06:44,160
Speaker 1: Those incompletions where he was looking around and you can't

2651
02:06:44,200 --> 02:06:46,360
Speaker 1: put all those on him. Now, maybe if you can

2652
02:06:46,440 --> 02:06:47,920
Speaker 1: go back and look at the film and say, Okay,

2653
02:06:47,960 --> 02:06:49,640
Speaker 1: there's a window you'd like to be able to see

2654
02:06:49,720 --> 02:06:51,640
Speaker 1: him fit it into, and he ended up throwing it

2655
02:06:51,680 --> 02:06:53,280
Speaker 1: away instead of trying to fit it in, or maybe

2656
02:06:53,440 --> 02:06:55,640
Speaker 1: he didn't even see it. I get that as well.

2657
02:06:56,160 --> 02:06:58,880
Speaker 1: But this is a guy I don't think it's hard

2658
02:06:58,960 --> 02:07:02,320
Speaker 1: to watch him play and not be really intrigued and

2659
02:07:02,480 --> 02:07:05,120
Speaker 1: excited about his future as a quarterback that you could

2660
02:07:05,160 --> 02:07:07,520
Speaker 1: build an offense around and win, and not only win,

2661
02:07:08,160 --> 02:07:11,600
Speaker 1: win big. There were drops Sunday too that factor into

2662
02:07:11,640 --> 02:07:14,920
Speaker 1: that complete and hey, every quarterback gets drops, and up

2663
02:07:15,000 --> 02:07:18,560
Speaker 1: until Aaron Rodgers is leading the league in throwaways by far,

2664
02:07:18,960 --> 02:07:21,400
Speaker 1: he's got like at one point we did Green Bay

2665
02:07:21,400 --> 02:07:25,600
Speaker 1: against Miami, coming in he had like fifty throwaways. He

2666
02:07:25,720 --> 02:07:28,600
Speaker 1: led the league by far, and that was a function

2667
02:07:28,640 --> 02:07:30,320
Speaker 1: of him having confidence that, hey, I'm gonna get it

2668
02:07:30,320 --> 02:07:31,720
Speaker 1: on the next down. And plus he guess I don't

2669
02:07:31,720 --> 02:07:34,680
Speaker 1: want to get hit, you know, and his offensive line

2670
02:07:34,760 --> 02:07:36,800
Speaker 1: is struggled in front of him, he just thrown it away.

2671
02:07:36,880 --> 02:07:40,200
Speaker 1: So all that goes into every equation with every quarterback.

2672
02:07:40,360 --> 02:07:42,440
Speaker 1: But does the total package give you a chance to

2673
02:07:42,480 --> 02:07:45,200
Speaker 1: win every week? It's hard to watch the last three

2674
02:07:45,280 --> 02:07:47,040
Speaker 1: or four game, all the way back to Jacksonville, these

2675
02:07:47,160 --> 02:07:50,120
Speaker 1: last three games, it's hard to watch those games and

2676
02:07:50,280 --> 02:07:54,200
Speaker 1: not thinking what you want that guy on your team,

2677
02:07:54,360 --> 02:07:57,280
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. He is a really, really special athlete and

2678
02:07:57,280 --> 02:07:59,040
Speaker 1: he's fun to watch. I got a calling on the line, Joe,

2679
02:07:59,080 --> 02:08:01,240
Speaker 1: who wants to weigh in on this issue? Joe? Go ahead?

2680
02:08:01,240 --> 02:08:04,840
Speaker 1: Are you there? Hey, guys, I'm here. Go ahead the

2681
02:08:04,920 --> 02:08:08,120
Speaker 1: game tonight. You know Florida is they got our number,

2682
02:08:08,280 --> 02:08:10,960
Speaker 1: so hopefully we could pull this out tonight. Thanks Joe.

2683
02:08:11,080 --> 02:08:13,120
Speaker 1: Let's go to Bob and cheek Dwagan. We don't have

2684
02:08:13,240 --> 02:08:15,800
Speaker 1: time at this point in the show. Bob and Cheeta,

2685
02:08:16,000 --> 02:08:20,320
Speaker 1: go ahead, Hey, how are you doing today? Steve good? Great?

2686
02:08:20,600 --> 02:08:23,600
Speaker 1: Just got a quick quick question about Josh Allen and

2687
02:08:23,760 --> 02:08:26,040
Speaker 1: I you know, I've been watching. I've been a season

2688
02:08:26,120 --> 02:08:29,040
Speaker 1: ticket holder for thirty years. And you know, Josh Allen

2689
02:08:30,000 --> 02:08:33,200
Speaker 1: really has about a seventy percent completion average when you

2690
02:08:33,440 --> 02:08:36,640
Speaker 1: consider all the penalties they've taken, that he's completed passes.

2691
02:08:37,200 --> 02:08:40,000
Speaker 1: You talk about Benjamin, Benjamin has dropped at least ten

2692
02:08:40,120 --> 02:08:42,880
Speaker 1: or twelve passes while he was here, you know, and

2693
02:08:44,120 --> 02:08:46,880
Speaker 1: you know all those passes that have been incomplete and

2694
02:08:47,120 --> 02:08:50,160
Speaker 1: been dropped, you tell you those in and I'm sure

2695
02:08:50,760 --> 02:08:53,920
Speaker 1: that he's close to seventy percent pass because well, here's

2696
02:08:53,920 --> 02:08:56,920
Speaker 1: the point. Don't all have that though, Bob, you know,

2697
02:08:57,240 --> 02:08:59,480
Speaker 1: we don't need to make and here's my point. You

2698
02:08:59,480 --> 02:09:02,640
Speaker 1: don't need to excuses for him for being inaccurate. If

2699
02:09:02,680 --> 02:09:05,080
Speaker 1: he was inaccurate, I mean, you want to know it.

2700
02:09:05,120 --> 02:09:09,640
Speaker 1: It's an interact accurate quarterback. Tim Tebow was inaccurate. I

2701
02:09:09,720 --> 02:09:12,800
Speaker 1: mean Tim Tebow couldn't hit the water in Lake Erie

2702
02:09:12,800 --> 02:09:15,000
Speaker 1: if he was thrown from the dock. I mean, it

2703
02:09:15,160 --> 02:09:20,040
Speaker 1: was bad. Josh is not an erratic passer. Certainly he

2704
02:09:20,120 --> 02:09:23,440
Speaker 1: could be more pinpoint. But even at Wyoming we said

2705
02:09:23,480 --> 02:09:25,000
Speaker 1: this coming out. I talked to guys who watched his

2706
02:09:25,040 --> 02:09:27,120
Speaker 1: film in Wyoming. They asked him to make throws that

2707
02:09:27,240 --> 02:09:30,120
Speaker 1: no other college quarterback was being asked to make. He

2708
02:09:30,280 --> 02:09:32,320
Speaker 1: was trying to his outlet on some of him were

2709
02:09:32,360 --> 02:09:34,640
Speaker 1: to the far side of the big hash marks, the

2710
02:09:34,720 --> 02:09:36,680
Speaker 1: wide hash marks in college to the far side of

2711
02:09:36,720 --> 02:09:39,520
Speaker 1: twelve yard out was his outlet. That's a hard pass

2712
02:09:39,600 --> 02:09:42,240
Speaker 1: to make, and yet no other quarterback in that conference

2713
02:09:42,280 --> 02:09:44,200
Speaker 1: could even be asked to make the throw, let alone

2714
02:09:44,240 --> 02:09:46,280
Speaker 1: complete it. So he was being asked to do a

2715
02:09:46,320 --> 02:09:48,920
Speaker 1: lot of things, and certainly in this offense this year

2716
02:09:49,320 --> 02:09:51,160
Speaker 1: when they started to get these speed guys, one of

2717
02:09:51,200 --> 02:09:52,720
Speaker 1: the things they wanted to do was open up the

2718
02:09:52,800 --> 02:09:54,560
Speaker 1: running game, and they did use the pass to do it.

2719
02:09:54,640 --> 02:09:57,560
Speaker 1: They're using the pass to do it, which means they're

2720
02:09:57,640 --> 02:10:00,240
Speaker 1: going deep and we all know those are high, low

2721
02:10:00,280 --> 02:10:03,080
Speaker 1: percentage completion rates. But they're asking Jos to take the

2722
02:10:03,160 --> 02:10:05,840
Speaker 1: lid off the off the defense so that maybe they'll

2723
02:10:05,880 --> 02:10:07,680
Speaker 1: get a little better in the run game. Up front,

2724
02:10:07,680 --> 02:10:10,240
Speaker 1: It helps their offensive line, helps him in the pass game.

2725
02:10:10,440 --> 02:10:12,760
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of reasons for doing what they're doing,

2726
02:10:13,320 --> 02:10:15,800
Speaker 1: but you don't need to make excuses for him. He's

2727
02:10:15,840 --> 02:10:18,520
Speaker 1: got to be better he's got to make better decisions,

2728
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Speaker 1: he's got to look and read the defense better and

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Speaker 1: all that will lead to more success from the pocket.

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Speaker 1: All right, no break here, Steve and I coming back

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Speaker 1: with more One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive and

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Speaker 1: this is Buffalo Bills Radio. Okay, here's where we take account.

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Speaker 1: What have we learned from today's show? We learned that

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Speaker 1: never again try to do an interview with fifteen minutes

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Speaker 1: before noon. It was hard. It was hard to get

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Speaker 1: going on the Good Show today we survived. What do

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Speaker 1: we learned? Presented by Advanced alarm running Western New York's

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. So what have we learned? What we had?

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Speaker 1: Ted Washington and Big Ted was here in studio, talked

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Speaker 1: about the toughest centers he faced during his seventeen season

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Speaker 1: NFL playing career. Everybody wanted to bring in your my way,

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, Damon Woody Saturday and all these other guys,

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Speaker 1: but they got to realize these guys were drafted to

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Speaker 1: come after me to help slow me down in the

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Speaker 1: FC and US yes, all those team Miami. So it

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Speaker 1: was fun to watch them draft or pay a guy

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Speaker 1: a boatload of money just to try to slow me

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Speaker 1: down and didn't work. So to recap, we asked Ted

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Speaker 1: Washington who were the toughest centers he faced, and his

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Speaker 1: answer was none of them? Right, that's what he said. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean he never he never played an NFL play

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Speaker 1: against one guy and if he did, he made the tackle. Also,

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Speaker 1: what do we learned today? On the show? Keith Ford

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Speaker 1: joined us, sat down with us. That was the questionable interview.

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Speaker 1: We started about ten minutes before we went on the

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Speaker 1: air today at noon. We asked Keith Ford about how

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Speaker 1: living on an army base and o'kan now in Japan

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Speaker 1: affected his preparation for the NFL. Really just thinking about it,

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Speaker 1: you know, just all the change and like you know,

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Speaker 1: when you go to a base, that's one change. But

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Speaker 1: you know, you know, like me, you're not you know,

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Speaker 1: establishing friends and having actual you know, you know childhood,

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Speaker 1: you know experience, you know, developing that, you know that,

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Speaker 1: you know that closeness. I never had that, So like

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Speaker 1: I always had to adapt to change. That's one thing

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Speaker 1: I always had to adapt whatever happened, forget about it.

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Speaker 1: I got adapt to it. So my dad always used

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Speaker 1: to say, either it's absolute or it's not at all.

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Speaker 1: Either it's it's a it's a goad where you're all

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Speaker 1: away or you're not all or nothing. So I just

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Speaker 1: kept on mentality my whole life. Keith Ford was impressive.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. We had to do the interview at our

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Speaker 1: call center taking guy co calls or something. That was

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Speaker 1: your phone, by the way it was, I took it

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Speaker 1: on my pocket, said a way over. Yeah, whatever, spent

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Speaker 1: with Steve's phone that and we picked that exact SoundBite.

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Speaker 1: We could have the ten minute review that was the best.

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Speaker 1: That was the best one with my phone ringing in

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Speaker 1: the background. Believe we'll do better tomorrow. I promise we'll

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Speaker 1: be better. Short tom All, production assistant George Blast, Jeff

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Speaker 1: Colton and Thomas honald Or, Kelly Route, Jjjurrito, Kevin carg

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Speaker 1: James Roebel, our producer Jay Harris. Tomorrow's Wednesday, we get

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Speaker 1: Brownie on the field. We get a lot more coming

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Speaker 1: up tomorrow. Thurman's coming in tomorrow. Yeah, yeah, it'll be fun.

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Speaker 1: Join us Tomorrow, twelve noon and three pm one Bill's

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio