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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody, Welcome to the Renee Stubbs Tennis Podcast. Caitlin,

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Speaker 1: Happy birthday, my friend. Thank you, it is your birthday.

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Speaker 1: How old are you today?

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Speaker 2: Well, according to my wearable, I'm whoop.

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Speaker 3: I'm a thirty ninety point seven year old, so I'm

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Speaker 3: going to go with that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, something tells me you are in your forties, but

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Speaker 1: I'll let you have your whoop day.

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Speaker 3: Well, listen, who's going to argue with biology. I've been

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Speaker 3: getting into the gym and lifting weights so my bones

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Speaker 3: don't disintegrate. I've been, you know, keeping my heart rate

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Speaker 3: into his own five wow, walking a lot.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying my best, and that's according to my wearable,

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Speaker 3: I'm thirty nine point seven.

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Speaker 2: So I just want to argue with that, don't won.

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Speaker 4: There's no there's no need to argue, all right.

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Speaker 1: Well, Well, normally we start with questions, and they could

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Speaker 1: be rolling in as this pod goes on, because I,

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Speaker 1: as usual, left it a little late to ask the questions.

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Speaker 1: But some people have sent in questions already, so we're

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Speaker 1: going to start with them because we wanted to start

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Speaker 1: with this topic and it was a question that was

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Speaker 1: asked to me on the socials and it is from

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Speaker 1: garum Hawa. Please address the recent WTA transphobic announcement around testing, etc.

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Speaker 1: I suppose it's inevitable in this climate, but surely there

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Speaker 1: has to be some pushback from players thoughts, even though

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Speaker 1: we know that our major icons like Martina unfortunately support testing.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Let's ground this question in a news A news update. So,

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Speaker 3: as of this weekend, it has been reported that the

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Speaker 3: WTA will sex test players on the WTA tour, which

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Speaker 3: means they will be testing players with a cheek swab,

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Speaker 3: a blood test or a slab a sample to tell

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Speaker 3: for the presence of the s R Y gene, which

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Speaker 3: is part of the Y chromosome and causes male characteristics

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Speaker 3: to develop. I'm reading this directly from the BBC, just

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Speaker 3: in case anybody is worried that I'm editorializing. Players will

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Speaker 3: be tested once in their lifetime and only in negative

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Speaker 3: results showing no presence of the gene will permit them

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Speaker 3: to compete on tour. If they test positive, players will

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Speaker 3: face for their medical assessment before being allowed to play.

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Speaker 3: The WTA's previously policy allowed transgender women to compete on

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Speaker 3: the tour if they had lowered their testosterone levels to

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Speaker 3: below two point five nano milli leaders continuously for the

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Speaker 3: previous two years. There are no known transgender women currently

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Speaker 3: playing on the WTA Tour. I want to start there

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Speaker 3: because there are no known transgender women playing on the

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Speaker 2: And obviously we can get into the politics of this.

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Speaker 3: Martina is on one side, sort of pretty famously and

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Speaker 3: a lot of people you know that I think we

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Speaker 3: probably mutually admire a on the other But why, My

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Speaker 3: question is why is this happening right now? What is

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Speaker 3: causing this to be a priority. And as we've discussed

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Speaker 3: with the WTA Tour, who is you know, facing budget shortfallows,

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Speaker 3: They've had to change in leadership, They've undergone, you know,

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Speaker 3: sort of a rebrand under Martina Rosati, the new WTA

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Speaker 3: Venture's chair. What is making this a priority?

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Speaker 1: Your answer question, your thoughts are as the same as mine.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know why.

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Speaker 1: As you already stated, the w TA, who is in

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Speaker 1: all kinds of sort of like you know, problems financially

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Speaker 1: as you already stated, amongst other things, decided that they're

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Speaker 1: just going to throw this spanner in the works.

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Speaker 4: As we like to say in Australia, it makes no

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Speaker 1: We had, of course, we've had a transgender player already

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Speaker 1: play on the WTA too, a long long time ago.

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Speaker 1: Of course, Renee Richards famously played during the Martine era

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Speaker 1: and Billy Jin King and Renee Richards interestingly became one

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Speaker 1: of Martina Nevralova's coaches back in the day. And from

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Speaker 1: what I heard in the you know on the streets,

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Speaker 1: is that Renee even she said that he doesn't think

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Speaker 1: that there should be transgender players in the professional realm,

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Speaker 1: but there aren't any, So why is this a problem?

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Speaker 1: And for such a small percentage of people in the

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Speaker 1: I say this all the time, and yes I'm very

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Speaker 1: these former players because I don't see it as a problem,

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Speaker 1: and no man is deciding at eighteen or twenty years

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Speaker 1: of age. You know what, I think I can win

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Speaker 1: Wimbledon if I just become a woman. I'm just going

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Speaker 1: to start taking estrogen and do all these things to

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Speaker 1: so we're taking away such a small, tiny minute section

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Speaker 1: what has happened to make the WTA decide that this

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Speaker 3: It's so strange. And I actually interviewed Renana Richards. We

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Speaker 3: were doing a project for A twenty four a couple

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Speaker 3: of years ago about World Team Tennis, which she was

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Speaker 3: a pioneering presence in and.

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Speaker 2: Her presence on that tour.

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Speaker 3: WTA World Team Tennis was the brainchild of Billy Jean

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Speaker 2: All the greats played it.

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Speaker 1: Everyone, I mean a lot of top of the place

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Speaker 1: They didn't need to go and play a major title.

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Speaker 1: Because of that. That's just why Margaret Courts twenty four

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Speaker 3: Well, among many reasons, Margaret Courts record shouldn't be taken seriously,

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Speaker 3: they were getting money. So we interviewed Renee Richards as

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Speaker 3: And it was really lovely to play in the World

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Speaker 3: think there's honestly some validity to it, Like I get why,

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Speaker 2: I do get it.

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Speaker 3: I'm not insensitive to the idea that you know, there

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Speaker 3: are genetic differences at the same time, why the WTA,

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Speaker 3: why now? What is the point of this, and why

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Speaker 3: at a time when people are feeling the most marginalized

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Speaker 3: how much of a culture war this is turned into.

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Speaker 3: Do this the WTA decide to even wigh into it?

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Speaker 3: That's more really my question. It's like, this doesn't come

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Speaker 3: from an actual incident. This isn't related to any actual

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Speaker 3: I have you know some genetic advantages here that has

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Speaker 3: baffling to me. And it's a good question from Garam.

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Speaker 3: I don't really get what it is that the WTA

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Speaker 3: not focused on regaining its place as the pre eminent

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Speaker 3: the other sports. I don't think anybody would say that

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Speaker 3: the focus. Maybe it will be, but it's really baffling.

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Speaker 3: I've reached out to some friends of mine on the

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Speaker 1: I suspect you won't hear anything back, really, because I

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Speaker 1: just think that they think this is such a lightning

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Speaker 1: are falling behind the WNBA, the PWHL Women's Professional Hockey League,

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Speaker 1: pre eminent sports here in the United States, for example,

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Speaker 1: So that's why I think, you know, that's where we're

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Speaker 1: The conversation started a lot around the Olympics, you know,

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Speaker 1: And it's like, I know, because when I played the

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Speaker 1: I don't know where that went to and back. Clearly

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they're doing that for the Olympics anymore,

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Speaker 1: it back in, you know, for the eighty six Olympics.

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Speaker 1: Now I don't believe they're doing it now for the

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Speaker 3: I am excited to see the WTA promote their new

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Speaker 3: Fantasy Women's semi Final Draft Fantasy Okay, it's not who

433
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Speaker 3: are the four best? It's yeah, but you gave me one.

434
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Speaker 3: Do you like to see you only gave one? That's

435
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Speaker 3: fes because I don't disagree with your other choices.

436
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Speaker 4: Ah, but that's what I said. You have to take

437
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Speaker 4: one person out.

438
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Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone, I'll take Steffy out. I'll take step out.

439
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Speaker 3: That's fine, Wow, because she's already a bunch of times.

440
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Speaker 3: I've seen her play it a bunch of times. I

441
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Speaker 3: know what she looks like holding the Venus rosewater dish.

442
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Speaker 3: I want a player in there who's never held it.

443
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Speaker 1: All right, Well, with that nonsense, we're going to take

444
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Speaker 1: a break when we're going to come back, and we're

445
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Speaker 1: going to talk more about Actually I want to talk

446
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Speaker 1: more about a little bit about the nuances of that

447
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Speaker 1: Wimbledon final that we spoke about last week. But I

448
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Speaker 1: want to talk a little bit about some of the

449
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Speaker 1: emotional side of it that it's taken me a few

450
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Speaker 1: days to sort of get over after break.

451
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Speaker 2: Okay, So Caitlin, we talked about.

452
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Speaker 1: The Wimbledon tournament in you know, it's sort of like

453
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Speaker 1: grandeur and what happened last last week. But one thing

454
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Speaker 1: that I sort of sat watching the British Open golf

455
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Speaker 1: yesterday and watching this guy, Ryan Fox win on the

456
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Speaker 1: most amazing eighteenth hole he played and birdied at thirty

457
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Speaker 1: nine years of age, and the emotion and he told

458
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Speaker 1: his caddy don't you cry.

459
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Speaker 4: I'm going to start crying.

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Speaker 1: And then watching Spain win the World Cup yesterday Viva

461
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Speaker 1: and Vamus Espana. I'm sorry for all our Argentinian listeners,

462
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Speaker 1: but I really am not.

463
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Speaker 3: We Argentinian listeners hold your country's standard of sportsmanship to

464
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Speaker 3: a higher, to a higher standard.

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Speaker 2: That was plus well, if you're an.

466
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Speaker 3: Argentine fan, I would be hanging my head in sham

467
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Speaker 3: as to how my team comported itself on the field.

468
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Speaker 3: I don't care win or lose. You don't start fights,

469
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Speaker 3: you don't act out of pocket. That was whatever is

470
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Speaker 3: in the sporting culture right now in Argentina that allows

471
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Speaker 3: for that is you blew it, start over every single

472
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Speaker 3: one of those players that should be bound for games

473
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Speaker 3: much less. I wouldn't let Argentina compete on the world

474
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Speaker 3: stage after the performance they put into this World Cup.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely despicable MESSI ruined his legacy.

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Speaker 2: That's my thoughts.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, Yes, cakate line, this is why. This

478
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Speaker 1: is why sometimes I know you when you get in

479
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Speaker 1: a little you come back from Mexico and you're like

480
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Speaker 1: all fired up, even on your birthday.

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Speaker 4: But I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: It was despicable. And also by far, Spain was the

483
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Speaker 1: better team. I mean, they had six thousand shots on goal.

484
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Speaker 1: Tina had zero. That is on you as a team.

485
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Speaker 1: That is on your players. That isn't your coach. That

486
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Speaker 1: is on you, guys, and you're going to start like

487
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Speaker 1: swinging at the Spanish players after the game.

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Speaker 4: Come on, give me a break. You guys should have

489
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Speaker 4: lost six zero.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, anyway, So the my point of bringing this

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Speaker 1: up is the emotion of sports, right, and the emotions

492
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Speaker 1: of winning and losing. And I just think back to

493
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Speaker 1: and we didn't really get into the nuances of that

494
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Speaker 1: final and sort of the close friendship between Mukhova and Noskova,

495
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Speaker 1: but also just the fact that Lindak Noskova was able to,

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Speaker 1: you know, deal with the death of her mum, who

497
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Speaker 1: she was so close to.

498
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Speaker 4: Her mum was on tour quite a lot with her.

499
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Speaker 1: Mum was like a lot more involved with her tennis

500
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Speaker 1: and I remember seeing her mum quite often on the tour,

501
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Speaker 1: And I would love to get into the head of

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Speaker 1: Linda Noskova when she left the court, you know, when

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Speaker 1: she put her fingers over her ears because she wanted

504
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Speaker 1: to block the noise. The only thing time I've ever

505
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Speaker 1: seen that was when Bianca Drescu played Serena in the

506
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Speaker 1: finals of the US Open and blocked her ears and

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Speaker 1: I think it was like five very similar scoreline actually

508
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Speaker 1: in the second set, when it was like she was

509
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Speaker 1: so close to winning, and then Serena came back. And

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Speaker 1: I would love to get into the mind of a

511
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Speaker 1: player when she leaves the court like that and sort

512
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Speaker 1: of looks herself in the mirror, and what she went

513
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Speaker 1: through to walk back onto the court and play such

514
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Speaker 1: an amazing third set, and the strength that she showed.

515
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Speaker 1: And then you hear the stories of her going to

516
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Speaker 1: Tanzania in her off season to like volunteer at a

517
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Speaker 1: school and her dad talking about how difficult all it

518
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Speaker 1: was for him growing up, you know, with the kids

519
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Speaker 1: growing up and how little money they had, And I

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Speaker 1: just think about the families up there and what they

521
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Speaker 1: went through and the dad's shaking hands after the match,

522
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Speaker 1: and I don't know, I just the sport is so

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Speaker 1: amazing like that. And we saw the worst of it

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Speaker 1: yesterday with the Argentinian players, but we saw the best

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Speaker 1: of it with you know, Noskova and Mukhova and the

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Speaker 1: fathers in the crowd and the way they both handled

527
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Speaker 1: that whole that moment. And I don't know, I just

528
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Speaker 1: it's why I love sports so much, is that we

529
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Speaker 1: see the best of people.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes we see the worst of it. But I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I just think it's something that we didn't talk about

532
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Speaker 1: enough last week. In how Linda Noskova handled just such

533
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Speaker 1: unbelievable disappointment in the second set to come back and

534
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Speaker 1: win that third set was just remarkable.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of people that think she can get

536
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Speaker 4: to number one in the world. I don't know how you.

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Speaker 2: Feel, you are you one of them.

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Speaker 4: I definitely think she can be top three.

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Speaker 1: To get to number one in the world, you've got

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Speaker 1: to be really consistent all the time. Do I think

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Speaker 1: that she has the capability to doing that, Yes, I do.

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Speaker 1: I think her serve is a little bit still vulnerable,

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Speaker 1: the second serve in particular. It's the one thing I

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Speaker 1: said on the network in Australia actually when she lost

545
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Speaker 1: in Australia. She lost to Tali Gibson in Australia, and

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Speaker 1: one of the things I said was that Martina Hingis's

547
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Speaker 1: mom has done a great thing with teaching Martina Hingis

548
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Speaker 1: how to hit groundstrokes and Belinda Bencicic and Linda Noskova

549
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Speaker 1: and their young career. But the one thing that she

550
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Speaker 1: does not teach well and I would definitely not send

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Speaker 1: my kid to Melanie Molitor, is a serve. The thing

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Speaker 1: that Noskova does well in that situation is that she's

553
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Speaker 1: strong and she can hit it big. But it is

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Speaker 1: definitely a part of her game that can get much better.

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Speaker 1: And I think I don't know how she can change

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Speaker 1: the service motion so much anymore. She's, you know, twenty

557
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Speaker 1: one going on twenty two, but that would be an

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Speaker 1: area that I think can get even better and bigger.

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Speaker 1: And if that does happen, yeah, I do think she

560
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Speaker 1: can get to number one in a well because she

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Speaker 1: does everything really well and she has an amazing disposition

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Speaker 1: on the court.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no arguments here. I'm ready to talk about the

564
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Speaker 3: tournaments that just concluded over the weekend, because there were

565
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Speaker 3: i know, really fun. Well, it's not the only reason why.

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Speaker 3: I love the fact that we had a lot of

567
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Speaker 3: other players who haven't been in the headlines as much

568
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 3: lately making really strong runs. Like I'm thinking of Paula Budosa,

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Speaker 3: for example, who didn't win the tournament in Romania. She

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Speaker 3: lost to mayosher If, the Egyptian player who's very fun

571
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Speaker 3: and dynamic to watch, but she made a final play,

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Speaker 3: especially on clay. You know, we saw Maria Sakar, who's

573
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Speaker 3: had a rough go of it the last couple of years,

574
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Speaker 3: you know, come up a little short against Barbara Kerdjikova,

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Speaker 3: who herself has had a struggle obviously since going out

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Speaker 3: with injuries. So you know, Andre Rublev won a title

577
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Speaker 3: over the weekend in Bostad. So it's just sort of like, oh,

578
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Speaker 3: this is fun. I like the idea that some of

579
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Speaker 3: our are more you know, are tried, insured time members

580
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Speaker 3: who haven't necessarily had a good couple of past seasons

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Speaker 3: were able to take some titles, and you know, for me,

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Speaker 3: the Slams are exciting. Obviously they attract a lot of

583
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Speaker 3: the casual fans. To your point earlier about Tennis Channel,

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Speaker 3: if you don't subscribe and you don't pay, it is

585
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 3: hard to watch tennis on TV. I mean, even watching ESPN,

586
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 3: it makes you go through a streaming subscription tier now

587
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 3: and they don't put all the matches on the main channel.

588
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 3: So being a tennis fan in America is very hard

589
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Speaker 3: because of how little access we actually have day in

590
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Speaker 3: and day out of watching tennis. But if you do

591
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 3: subscribe to a streaming service like Tennis Channel, you see

592
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Speaker 3: all these amazing tournaments. And to me, you know, I

593
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 3: can get just as excited, if not more, about a

594
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Speaker 3: you know, WTA two fifty final with Maria Sakary and

595
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Speaker 3: Berba Kujikova than I can, you know, a Wimbledon final,

596
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Speaker 3: because I like both those players and they both have

597
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 3: interesting stories to me, and they have a cool contrast

598
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Speaker 3: in styles. And you know, there's Marius Sachary playing in

599
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Speaker 3: front of a home crowd in Athens, which is a

600
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Speaker 3: relatively new tournament. So to me, tennis is great because

601
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Speaker 3: it takes us in. It's everywhere every week, and it's

602
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Speaker 3: happening everywhere. And even though this is a really weird

603
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Speaker 3: stretch of the calendar because it's not quite US Open

604
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Speaker 3: pre North American hardcourt season yet. Although some of these

605
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Speaker 3: tournaments obviously are on heard, like I mentioned, a lot

606
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Speaker 3: of the tournaments are on clay. You know, we had

607
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Speaker 3: a grasscourt tournament last week in Newport, So you know,

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Speaker 3: there's there's still a bit of a limbo kind of

609
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Speaker 3: feeling to it. But I love the fact that there's

610
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 3: amazing matches going on. And there's some names you know

611
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 3: back in back in the headlines, and yes, Stephans tissy

612
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 3: Pass is one of them. Fine, I just but for

613
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Speaker 3: that crazy gay, I love him. I love that he's crazy.

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Speaker 1: For me, it was good to see because you know,

615
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Speaker 1: we know he's famously finally flicked his dad as a coach.

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Speaker 1: And for our listeners of our part, I think Renee

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Speaker 1: Stubbs has been asking for that for a number of years.

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Speaker 2: Not you're not the only one. Pretty much everybody has

619
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Speaker 2: been like.

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Speaker 1: A number of a disaster and you know, he finally

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Speaker 1: did it, and you know a lot of people are like, well,

622
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: you know his dad's gotten in here, He's gotten in there.

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Speaker 4: I'm like no.

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Speaker 1: But the problem is that Steph loses his shit on

625
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Speaker 1: the court, and half the time it's not even at

626
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: his tennis it's at his dad, and his dad is

627
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Speaker 1: yelping at him from the sidelines, saying stuff that is

628
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: so negative. I know because I was told what he

629
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: was saying at times by somebody who speaks Greek. So

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Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, maybe you need somebody out there who's

631
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Speaker 1: like rah rahring you and making you feel good.

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Speaker 4: And half the time, you know, that's what coaches do.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's certain you know, things that you have

634
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: to tell your player, whether it be x's and o's

635
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: and what we're going to work on and what we

636
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: need to get better at. But in the end, you

637
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: have to have someone who's supportive of you, who is

638
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: really believes in you. When you get into the trenches,

639
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: when you get down, you know those five match points

640
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: the second round and you look up and spend Greenefeld

641
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: is pounding his chest and saying, keep fighting. You need

642
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: to look up and see a coach who believes in you,

643
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Speaker 1: who thinks that you can still win, and not somebody

644
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Speaker 1: who's going to yelp negative shit at you that makes

645
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: you feel terrible about yourself on the court. So clearly

646
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Speaker 1: that finally is working for Steph.

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Speaker 4: It's nice to see him back.

648
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Speaker 1: And yeah, with the polar Badosa thing, you know, with

649
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Speaker 1: her run for winning a one twenty five and then

650
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: coming in and getting to the finals, there is two fifty.

651
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: Her ranking is back now up inside the top one hundred,

652
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: so that means that she will get automatically in the

653
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Speaker 1: US Open, which is great because she won't have play Quie.

654
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: She's too good a player, a former number two in

655
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,479
Speaker 1: the world to be playing qualifying. But unfortunately for her,

656
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: her buddy also broke down on her again in the

657
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: final when she was done a setin for love to Sharif.

658
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: But if the body is there, she has the game,

659
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: and so you know, nobody's going to want to play

660
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: a player with her caliber of ball striking and serving

661
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,959
Speaker 1: going into the hard court season if she's back physically okay,

662
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was great to see that. And Babora

663
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: Krajikova is one of these players as well that gets

664
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Speaker 1: kind of a role on and look, look how great

665
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: she played at Wimbledon after again coming off some you know,

666
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: health issues and things like that, and pushes Mukhovah to

667
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: the absolute brink. It was one of the best matches

668
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: of the tournament was that Mukhovah Kujikova match was just

669
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: awesome to watch all caught tennis and Krejikova when she's

670
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: at her best is really hard to beat because she

671
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: doesn't have any weaknesses. So that was a tough match

672
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: up for Sakari. Who I mean, we saw her win

673
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: the semifinals. She was like crying, she was so happy

674
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,239
Speaker 1: to be in the final. And that's always a bit

675
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: of an indicator for me. I want to see a

676
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: player win a semi final and just go shake hands

677
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: and walk off the court and be like, yeah, okay,

678
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: big deal, I'm in the final. That means nothing to me.

679
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: It's kind of like, you know how I looked at

680
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 1: Zverev when he won the semi for the French Open.

681
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: He knew that pressure was on him to win that

682
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: tournament and he did not get excited. Even said it

683
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: in the post match interview. Yeah, this is nothing I

684
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: want to win. I don't want to be in a

685
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: final again. And some players, you see them when they

686
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: win matches in quarters or Semis. You see how excited

687
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:21,479
Speaker 1: they get, and you can kind of it's a bit

688
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: of an indicator of that they almost think their tournament

689
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: is over. So for Kojikova, you know, it was She's

690
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: won so much, so many big titles. It was no

691
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: big deal for her to be in the final. It

692
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: was Sakari, you could see it was. It meant so

693
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:37,479
Speaker 1: much to her. But yeah, Rublev winning always great, and

694
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: of course Steph, that was super exciting.

695
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 4: Anyway, let's take one more quick break.

696
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: We'll be back with a little bit more to finish

697
00:32:44,720 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: off our point today. Okay, So Caitlin and we've already

698
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: talked about spin winning. Al Karaz looks like, not only

699
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: is he back holding the World Cup, Louis Vauton Purse

700
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: or whatever you want to call that thing.

701
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 4: What do you think about that?

702
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,959
Speaker 3: It's hard for me to think about anything other than

703
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 3: his insane amount of hair.

704
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 4: I was talking about the Louis Vton Purse.

705
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 3: That now, but I'm picturing him and I'm just thinking

706
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 3: that he has like he's back to lego hair.

707
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 2: This kuy grows hair so fast it is just insane.

708
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 3: Like remember when he buzz cutted his hair before the

709
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 3: US Open last year, and like his brother did, by

710
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 3: the third round, he had like a thick, full head

711
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 3: of hair back already, like I can't get past it.

712
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 3: So he has a Louisutan ambassadorship. They sponsored the tournament

713
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 3: at FIFA and they brought out two of their global ambassadors.

714
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 2: The other one was the Korean model woman who.

715
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 3: Was in that show Everyone Kills each Other and it's

716
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 3: this case that is made by the brand, and that

717
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 3: they had him posing next to. I was more excited

718
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 3: about Carlos Alcarez losing his mind in the stands because

719
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,720
Speaker 3: the amount of coverage of Carlos Alcarez specifically. My favorite

720
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 3: one was when one of Spain's goals was wrongfully retracted

721
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 3: and you see Carlos Aucrez jumping out of his seat

722
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,760
Speaker 3: with excitement and then holding his head in his hands

723
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 3: with dismay, and I agree with him, by the way,

724
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 3: that should have been it too. Yeah, Spain should have

725
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 3: won the game, probably for zero. Like again, despicable, I'm

726
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 3: saying six refereeing, but somebody put the caption when you

727
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 3: realize the tie break is ten points instead of seven.

728
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 3: I'm here for Carlos showing up kind of wherever and whenever.

729
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 3: I mean he's probably here now, you know, running rampage

730
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 3: around the city doing god knows what, buying that chains,

731
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 3: getting his hair dyed, getting another tattoo, who knows, I'm

732
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 3: here for it.

733
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 1: That's actually hilarious. Yeah, I mean, he's hair is something

734
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 1: to behold. I tell you, you know, it would be

735
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 1: interesting to see if Novak chose to like let his

736
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: hair grow the same, because I'm pretty certain they have

737
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: the same hair, like you know that cheer pet hair

738
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: that just like it's just it's just always there. I mean,

739
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: these guys are going to have hair for the rest

740
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 1: of their lives. But yeah, to see the unkept look.

741
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's doing it because he feels

742
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: like I don't know. But the whole point of me

743
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 1: talking about this is that he's in the United States,

744
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: and word on the street is he is going to

745
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: try and play Cincinnati. If that is the case, If

746
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 1: I thief, I can't imagine he would have gone back

747
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: to Spain. I would imagine that he would probably center

748
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 1: himself here on a hard court somewhere somewhere and practice

749
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: before Cincinnati. But it will be a great relief to

750
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: tennis fans around the world to see him back playing

751
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati.

752
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. I have my doubts he's.

753
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: Got a girlfriend too. I mean him and Sinner getting

754
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: photoed and pabbed, papped, papped, I should say not pad whatever.

755
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: People get it, both of them out there in the

756
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: old Mediterranean with the old blondes on a boat.

757
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 2: I'm mad at it. I mean, shouldn't we all be

758
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 2: on a boat in the Mediterranean.

759
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,439
Speaker 1: I mean I was in the Mediterranean, but I wasn't

760
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: on a boat. But if anyone wants to take me on.

761
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 2: A boat, We're open to boats. We're open. My number

762
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 2: is one to three.

763
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 4: I don't know.

764
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't feel good about Carlos has comeback.

765
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not totally sold on it. I don't,

766
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't have any side information. I just

767
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 3: I have some lingering intuition that I don't think he's

768
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 3: actually gonna end up playing it the Os Open. I

769
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 3: think he's gonna maybe come back for for Asia. I

770
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 3: don't like what I've seen so far of his practicing.

771
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 3: I think he's hitting soft, stationary balls, and I think

772
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 3: the wrist is a really, really deeply fundamentally, you know,

773
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 3: fragile part of everybody's biology. I know he plays such

774
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 3: a physical game. I don't I don't see it happening. Ironically,

775
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 3: I got invited to a documentary screening last week for

776
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 3: the Novak Djokovic documentary that it's coming out on Amazon Prime.

777
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 3: I snuck out before it screened because I was missing

778
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 3: there schmoos with people sentence yet no, oh man, I

779
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 3: had to wake up earlier next day.

780
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: I mean, it's from the people from the Lost Dance,

781
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 1: so I expected to be pretty decent.

782
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's good.

783
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 3: I mean I planned for really, I just wasn't watching

784
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 3: it with him in the the you know, in the

785
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 3: at the front and he had a Q and A afterwards.

786
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 3: I was going to get home very late. But I

787
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 3: will watch it. But it was interesting because you know

788
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 3: whos There was one Martin del Potro, and he was

789
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 3: sort of shuffling around. He was kind of standing by himself.

790
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 3: He didn't look like he he kind of looked like

791
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 3: a man without a country. And I just was so

792
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 3: sad seeing him because he looked sad and what happened

793
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 3: to him was so so so tragic, not only the injury,

794
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 3: but obviously his his terrible, uh financial situation with I

795
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 3: guess his family members, and it sounded messy and awful,

796
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 3: but it reminded me like the wrist is a real, real,

797
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 3: big problem. And so for me, I'm excited Carolos is

798
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 3: in the stands. I'm excited he's on the boat. I'm

799
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 3: excited about his hair. But I have some serious reservations

800
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 3: about whether or not we're going to be seeing him

801
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 3: striking tennis balls at ATP tour speed on a hardcore

802
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 3: in a tournament setting anytime soon.

803
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: Well, every now and again I will say not to

804
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: be that person, But every now and again he does

805
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,959
Speaker 1: respond to me on Instagram, and I did when he.

806
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 2: Was hitting balls.

807
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: I did say it was great to see him back

808
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: hitting balls, and he said, you know, hopefully soon I'll

809
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: be hitting it harder. And that was at the end

810
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: of June, and so you know, one of the things

811
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: that I did write to him was that I did

812
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 1: have a risk injury for seven months and I said,

813
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: please take your time, because it's not an injury when

814
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: I sort of fuck around with and if it's sore

815
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: in any way, you shouldn't you shouldn't even try and

816
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: play anymore. But I sort of want to air on

817
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,439
Speaker 1: the side of you and be like, maybe he's taking

818
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: his time and it's probably a good idea.

819
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 4: But if not, I mean, his fitness will be good because.

820
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: You can do anything you want within risk injury to

821
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: a certain degree. You know, he's not going to be

822
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: lifting anything above his head, but certainly his legs will

823
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,760
Speaker 1: be have been worked hard, so physically he should be okay.

824
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: But getting back on the tennis court and hitting tennis

825
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: balls is really the pre predominant thing that he needs

826
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 1: to do. So we'll see and hopefully that happens. All right, Well,

827
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 1: it's been a big week, mostly because of this little

828
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: bit of controversy that came out just yesterday with the

829
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 1: WTA sex testing. We spent a bit of time on that.

830
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: But is there anything else, Caitlin, that you would like

831
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 1: to talk about? Because it is your birthday, I.

832
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:34,760
Speaker 2: Mean, it is my birthday.

833
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 3: I've got some beautiful kishpul Austrian tennis in the background,

834
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 3: which is how I like it. A low stakes first

835
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 3: round of a clay court tournament and a beautiful setting.

836
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 3: You can see some Austrian Alps or maybe they're the

837
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 3: tyrolls there in the background. You know, tennis is amazing

838
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 3: and it takes us everywhere. So yeah, I'm excited. I'm excited

839
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 3: about the quotedian stuff. I'm excited about the d and

840
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 3: d out. I'm excited about all these players that we

841
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 3: just saw at the end stages of the tournaments. I

842
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 3: desperately want a healthy Paula Bedosa back. She's so box

843
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:11,240
Speaker 3: office and such a you know, a reliably interesting player.

844
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,240
Speaker 3: Although I did not love seeing her chuck her racket

845
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 3: under the stands, And I think again, everybody who does that,

846
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 3: whether I like them or autumatic, should get an automatic deef.

847
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 3: It's like the rules are beef and you can't you

848
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 3: can't selectively apply them even if nobody gets hurt. You know,

849
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 3: it's like somebody could have gotten brained in the face.

850
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 3: Just don't throw your racket. Don't create a dangerous situation

851
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 3: for line judges, umpires, spectators.

852
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 2: Just cameramen, camera women. Get a hold of yourself.

853
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 3: Yeah that was absolutely disgrace Yeah, unnecessary, unnecessary if.

854
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: You, you know, as a plier, when you let go

855
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: of a racket out of your hand, whatever happens after

856
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 1: that is on you, no matter even if it's unlucky

857
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: quote unquote, you know, like, oh, I didn't mean it

858
00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: to hit that thing, and then it flicked up and

859
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 1: went it. You had control of the racket in your

860
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: hand and you let it go. Whatever happens after that

861
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 1: is on you. And if it goes into the stands,

862
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Speaker 1: you should absolutely be absolutely defaulted immediately, and that is

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Speaker 1: the only way to stop. But it's kind of like

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Speaker 1: when I watch soccer, Like if you go and watch

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Speaker 1: rugby or basketball or anything, if you touch a ref,

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Speaker 1: if you mouth to a.

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Speaker 4: Ref, you are off. And I don't know how people

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00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 4: feel about this.

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Speaker 1: They can write in and let me know, because I

870
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: know people that follow this know that I am a

871
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: little obsessed with all other sports. But here's my idea

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00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: for men's soccer going for it. I'm not even going

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00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: to say women's soccer because women don't do this because

874
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: the women know that they're going to get shipped for it.

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00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: Because I've spoken to friends of mine who played professional

876
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: soccer and they were like, we would never do that

877
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 1: because we'd.

878
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 4: Get so much shipped for it.

879
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 1: If you go down and you did not get kicked

880
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: or studded or whatever, and you're like or hit in

881
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 1: the face.

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00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 4: You know, they carry on like these idiots.

883
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: There's one great Instagram photo of a video of a

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00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 1: woman who just gave birth to a child, and it's

885
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: like men had to do this. This is what they

886
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: would look like, you know what I mean? Like they

887
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: show these like soccer players rolling around on the ground.

888
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: They haven't even been touched. If you do that and

889
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: you it is caught on var afterwards, five minutes in

890
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: the sinbin, that's what it is.

891
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 4: It's like ice hockey or rugby.

892
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: You go, you go off, and you sit on the

893
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: sideline and you watch your team have to defend for you.

894
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 4: Now one man down for five minutes.

895
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 2: That's it.

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00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: It'll stop men, It'll stop them doing it, I promise you,

897
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: because as soon as they're like, oh that wasn't you

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00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: weren't fouled and you rolled around seventeen times on the

899
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: ground like a chicko roll. I don't know what you

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00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 1: call them here in the States, but it's kind of

901
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 1: like ann hazard A guess as to it that might.

902
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 4: Just look it up.

903
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 1: Just look up Chico roll in Australia. If you roll

904
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: around like a chicko roll, you're off for five minutes.

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00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: That's my that's my you know, I want to take

906
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 1: away let's intennas. That's what I want in men's soccer.

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00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 3: I'm going to do you one better. If you roll

908
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 3: around on the ground, you should be teased and we'll

909
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 3: give you something to cry about. Kind of school of

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00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 3: thought and you can see play or not.

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00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: Wait wait, you spend five minutes off the field and

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00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 1: you get taste on the.

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00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 2: Way out, We'll give you something to cry about. That's

914
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 2: what this is.

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00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll give you something to cry about.

916
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely despoke. Well all right, well, lovely chat. Thank

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00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 3: you for the birthday wishes.

918
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 4: Thanks Caitlin.

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00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: We are in the same city, so maybe I'll have

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00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: to find you for a for a celebratory drink, even

921
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:23,919
Speaker 1: though I had a couple of yesterday watching Spain beat Argentina.

922
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: All right, well, I'm hamidly kind of pissed because you

923
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: could have I know it's not my birthday, but I

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00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: really wish you'd brought me back a bottle of really

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00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: expensive here but non expensive supposed to.

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Speaker 2: Give you a bottle of tequila for my adress? Do

927
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:38,879
Speaker 2: youmn how many times?

928
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 3: How many times have I celebrated your birthday through the years?

929
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 2: I remember we charted a boat. I remember taking going

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00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 2: out to dinner.

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Speaker 1: And okay, hold a second. We didn't charter a boat.

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00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,760
Speaker 1: My friend didre did you just hopped on for a ride.

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00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: I wasn't free, I can tell you that much. I'm

934
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Speaker 1: just saying I'm supposed to bring you back a bottle

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Speaker 1: of tekuler.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so.

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00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: Anyway, all right, mate, I'll take you out to dinner

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Speaker 1: if you want. All right, I'll call you after this.

939
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: All right, everyone, thanks for hanging in there with us

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00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: this week. And I know we've had a little bit

941
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: of controversy, so I'm expecting a lot of shit coming

942
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: my way on Instagram. Anyway, we're on Twitter, all right.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you guys next week.

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Speaker 2: Bye.

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Speaker 3: May