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Speaker 1: Their offense finished with two hundred and twenty yards. They

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Speaker 1: the fourth time this year the Broncos did not score

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Speaker 1: in the first quarter. They had four possessions that went

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Speaker 1: They had eleven penalties as a team. It was a

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Speaker 1: They were really, really bad. And this is a trend

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Speaker 1: they won seven straight, but they have not looked good

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Speaker 1: doing it in any way. They have trailed in every

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Speaker 1: But as they say you are, what's your record says

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Speaker 2: And they are eight and two. And guess what I

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Speaker 3: What's that that the Broncos can get it done.

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Speaker 4: I have more confidence in the Broncos than ever before

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Speaker 4: because they had no reason.

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Speaker 5: To win that game.

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Speaker 2: They should not have won that game. Good team find

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Speaker 4: I am now more convinced than ever that they're going

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Speaker 2: And now.

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Speaker 4: I am convinced Denver will win that division. And that

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Speaker 3: You're the only person on earth, including Sean Payton, bow

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Speaker 3: Knicks Dobbins, theyre JK Dobbins, They're running back and every

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Speaker 5: How are you the one person who walked away from

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Speaker 3: That's how I know you went home and watched your

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Speaker 5: There's no way you watched that.

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Speaker 2: Did I not choke send you pictures of the game

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Speaker 5: No, I just want him to buy the TV.

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Speaker 2: That's all I know.

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Speaker 3: I was watching, said, let me put a sport, let

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Speaker 2: I'm paying for prime, trust me. I'm watching the game.

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Speaker 3: No, all jokes aside. I hear what you're saying. In

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Speaker 3: And when you start to have your coach, your quarterback,

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Speaker 3: You heard dobbins man. We can't keep doing this to

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Speaker 3: our defense. We dan keep I feel bad. We owe

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Speaker 3: after play after play, and they have looked bad throughout

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Speaker 3: the season, have been a very confusing team. And also

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Speaker 3: I think what's making more troubling Rob, And again I

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Speaker 3: get what you're saying when is when they're eight and two.

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Speaker 5: The troubling thing is they were ten and seven last year.

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Speaker 3: Both Knicks as a rookie, Sean Payton, he and him

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Speaker 5: The offense has regressed, bo Nicks looks worse.

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Speaker 3: He's making more turnovers, making bad possessions, having bad drive

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Speaker 3: you play out, we gotta win. The reason why they're frustrated, Rob,

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Speaker 4: Only gotta do is go only gonna do is split

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Speaker 4: though they don't have to go four and oh but

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Speaker 4: I'm saying, and the ideas you're gonna play them, yeah,

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Speaker 4: but you could play better.

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Speaker 2: They have a bye, right, and then they're gonna you

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Speaker 3: I think this is what so this is where Rob

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Speaker 2: See that's why I disagree.

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Speaker 4: I don't think that those games are the same compared

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Speaker 3: So like, just no way you watch the Broncos and

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Speaker 4: But that but that, that's what but that. But that's

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Speaker 4: They can't play worse than they've played.

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Speaker 5: They can't actually gotten worse though that you have they've gotten.

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Speaker 2: You think they're gonna be worse than they played yesterday.

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Speaker 4: That that that going forward against those four games you

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Speaker 3: Historically they're historically bad. What I'm saying is you don't

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Speaker 4: Whenever you have defense travels, defense travel. Whenever you have defense,

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Speaker 4: feel good about this, to look like a Sean Payton

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Speaker 2: This is how they disrupt the quarterback.

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Speaker 4: They pressure a quarterback, They make these other teams look

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Speaker 4: bad offensively, but Peyton Manning won a Super Bowl like that.

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Speaker 4: Go back you're talking about they can't win Denver one.

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Speaker 4: Peyton Manning threw four hundred and three yards and one touchdown.

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Speaker 5: A game tam was way better than this offense.

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Speaker 2: No, no, I'm but they in that game. And I

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Speaker 5: Remember a game run Ge.

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Speaker 4: You remember when the Raiders went to the Super Bowl

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Speaker 4: It was unbelievable. Hold on, hold on, unbelievable. Don't go

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Speaker 5: Don't go that far. Rob.

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Speaker 3: My point is the reason why it ain't even about

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Speaker 4: All they gotta do is split. They not, They don't

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Speaker 3: That's the reason that they just expected to be win

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Speaker 5: Sounds good. Supposed to be doing.

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Speaker 5: And they know they got some losses on the way

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Speaker 1: We got some big news coming out of DC Jadeen Daniels,

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Speaker 1: who you'll recall last week, suffered an ugly dislocated elbow

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Speaker 1: Washington has lost four consecutive games, Washington is currently down

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. He's not coming back to our

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Speaker 5: Is a heart there?

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Speaker 3: I love that, But sometimes you have to look out

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Speaker 3: The leadership, bruh. We want to live to fight another

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Speaker 4: They won miracle games last year that they had no

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Speaker 4: There's no reason if you're telling me that the doctor

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Speaker 4: But once he's cleared to play, guess what players do, Kelvin.

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Speaker 5: No, you think he wants.

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Speaker 5: By then, they could have lost another three.

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Speaker 5: You don't think they come by that. You just that

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Speaker 4: Come back if he come if they won a few

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Speaker 2: But that doesn't always going to get her whole injury.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna stop him from getting hurt in week one

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Speaker 5: Want their leader. Nobody said that they want their leader.

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Speaker 3: How ably he's not playing if we are coming, it

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Speaker 5: A hamstring, a knee string, and a strain.

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Speaker 4: It's not impossible because they just said it. Rob g

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Speaker 5: Can't he play? Sure? Is he healthy? No? What are

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Speaker 5: Killing my point? Can he could he have played? Yes? No?

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Speaker 2: No, no, my point No, No, I did not put

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Speaker 4: My point is that you don't throw in the towel

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Speaker 2: You wait till you'll wait till, we'll wait till next year. No,

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Speaker 2: there's not such thing. No a big no.

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Speaker 5: No, it is second year quarterback.

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Speaker 4: No, it's not absolutely because you can't guarantee that next year.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't get hurt right game. So what's the difference.

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Speaker 4: What's the difference? Gonna start over, can get hurt at

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Speaker 4: He didn't even have a great year. I need him

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you're gonna get some reps this summer. He

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Speaker 5: Can you get out there.

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Speaker 4: And he got You're guaranteed me he ain't gonna get

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Speaker 4: that that's called that's called life. Can you guarantee me there?

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Speaker 4: I might well? I fell down the stairs the other day.

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Speaker 3: Can you guarantee me that? No, that's part of but

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Speaker 2: Ion, don't don't strategic, don't play?

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Speaker 3: Oh, my franchise quarterback, don't you want to playing to

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Speaker 5: Better come have a seat.

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Speaker 2: You must be crazy. You better come have a season.

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Speaker 2: Players play, they're not looking to bow out.

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Speaker 5: You think you don't want to get the managers and

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Speaker 3: I gotta think of the long term because the last

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Speaker 5: That's what happened the last time he got beats. That's

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Speaker 4: Rob g family members have just lost it when it

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Speaker 4: And I'm gonna say this, not just the idea that

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Speaker 4: Like in the old days, you could get cut or

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Speaker 4: I think they're empowered by that. My son sign up

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Speaker 1: He's the Bear's number one receiving option, but he had

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Speaker 3: One of the things that we all had this Rob

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Speaker 3: Checks that they couldn't cash. And now you got to

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Speaker 3: I gotta go into the locker room. Does Cayleb Williams

444
00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,880
Speaker 3: look at me differently, like have you been whispering something

445
00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:15,800
Speaker 3: to your dad? Are you pillo talking with your girl

446
00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:16,320
Speaker 3: with your dad?

447
00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:17,280
Speaker 5: You know? Are you're saying stuff?

448
00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:18,840
Speaker 3: And then you got to go say no, no, no, that's

449
00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,800
Speaker 3: his opinion, that's not mine. And when it keeps happening repeatedly,

450
00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,040
Speaker 3: it ends up falling on the player. You're doing more

451
00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:29,480
Speaker 3: damage to the player when you openly criticize, regularly, routinely.

452
00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:30,119
Speaker 5: Look, I get it.

453
00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,359
Speaker 3: We can all have a frustrated moment. We now have

454
00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,840
Speaker 3: the ability to get our thoughts out there that you

455
00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,080
Speaker 3: have just yell at a TV or yell at your dog,

456
00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,720
Speaker 3: or yell at your sibly your spouse with somebody. Now

457
00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,480
Speaker 3: you can get on the phone and go on Instagram.

458
00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,440
Speaker 3: You can go at the trolls, you can go back

459
00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,000
Speaker 3: at them. And I think sometimes we forget that ends

460
00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,800
Speaker 3: up being detrimental to your whoever the person is in

461
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:50,919
Speaker 3: your life, in this case his son. Because now I

462
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,520
Speaker 3: gotta feel questions, Rob, Now I gotta look at you know,

463
00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,920
Speaker 3: wonderfu my teammates looking at me differently. Now I gotta

464
00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,440
Speaker 3: go back and forth all day. And to me, it's

465
00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 3: just there's no gain from there's no win from it.

466
00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,200
Speaker 3: It's gonna hurt you, it's gonna make you look bad,

467
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,359
Speaker 3: and it's gonna potentially hurt your son or your daughter

468
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,159
Speaker 3: of whoever the athlete is, and there's no upside. So

469
00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 3: I just I know it's difficult because we have the

470
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,880
Speaker 3: technology to respond to people just because you can doesn't

471
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,160
Speaker 3: mean you should, as hard as it may be, because

472
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:19,959
Speaker 3: now it all comes on him in, week in, week out,

473
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 3: he's gonna have to come up questions. And now we

474
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,920
Speaker 3: see it with some other team Morant, John Moran's dad

475
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 3: getting into it with Sho Shanna Sharp. They about to

476
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,159
Speaker 3: scrap they doing this. It's just too much can happen.

477
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,439
Speaker 3: And there's no real game when you're doing this to me.

478
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 4: I just I think it's terrible and I cannot. I

479
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 4: don't have kids. I couldn't imagine embarrassing my son or daughter,

480
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 4: you know, by by going out and speaking out, especially

481
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,359
Speaker 4: when you consider the numbers that he's already put up

482
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 4: this year. He leads, right, rob g we talked about earlier.

483
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 4: He leads it almost yeah and almost every category. It

484
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,879
Speaker 4: was a bad game or whatever, and it's coming off.

485
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 4: It ain't coming off. The Bears got shut out eight

486
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,719
Speaker 4: to nothing and he didn't get any balls or whatever.

487
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 4: They actually won the game and put up forty seven points.

488
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,200
Speaker 4: And that's the game, right that you're going to speak

489
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 4: out as a win that put them at five and

490
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 4: three and a big time comeback win.

491
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,920
Speaker 2: And then he has to answer, and I don't care.

492
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 2: He could say that's my dad, I have nothing to

493
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,680
Speaker 2: do it or whatever. Dude, you know that people are

494
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:32,640
Speaker 2: like he texting his.

495
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 4: Dad, whinding like whining, winding like a girl, I'm not

496
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 4: getting the ball whatever, and his dad.

497
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 5: Is just echoing no sentiments.

498
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 2: Right, that's not his dad.

499
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 4: That's him talking to his dad, and his dad is

500
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,679
Speaker 4: the one putting it out there. And that's what it

501
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 4: sounds like. It's just like when Halliburton's dad ran out

502
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 4: on the court and did all that.

503
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 5: What are you doing now?

504
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 3: I gotta answer questions about it and what are you doing?

505
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 3: And you know what, I'm glad you brought that a Rob,

506
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 3: because you know what it forces to what nobody wants

507
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:04,239
Speaker 3: to do.

508
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 5: Halliburton had to go against his dad publicly.

509
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 3: But like, now I gotta separate myself from you because

510
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 3: you did something that was not smart. Now if you're

511
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 3: if you're the dude's ay, Now I gotta ask my pops.

512
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:17,679
Speaker 5: He does what he do?

513
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 3: I do what I do that. I don't want to

514
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 3: do that, but when you do these things, I have to.

515
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 3: I have to and watch this Rob. He's a he's

516
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 3: a he's a young quarter he's mephrase that young receiver,

517
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 3: first year Caleb Williams, first year really under Ben Johnson

518
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 3: new system.

519
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 5: What are you gonna do?

520
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 3: This isn't year eight where you could be like, look,

521
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 3: I'm tired of it being seven eight years and that's badness.

522
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 5: This is a handful of games into the first year,

523
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 5: the first year altogether coordinator.

524
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 2: Cou got the most receptions.

525
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, give, I could completely understand if this has

526
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 3: been three to four years of ineptitude, if he was

527
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,639
Speaker 3: playing with the Panthers, playing with the Raiders, it looks horrible.

528
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 5: I get that. At that point, you're blowing a gasket.

529
00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 5: I've had enough.

530
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 3: This is there, they're they're five and three. He's leading

531
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 3: team in receptions. He looks good.

532
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 5: Anybody who has eyeball see that. He looks really good.

533
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 2: And it's a connection. Though doesn't feel like he has

534
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 2: a connection with Caleb.

535
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 3: And I know he wants more, without a doubt he's

536
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 3: he's a guy who might wants more.

537
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 5: We get that.

538
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 3: But if this is what we're doing week eight nine, rob,

539
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 3: what are we gonna do week? Like I said, year

540
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 3: two or three, If it's not going the way he wants,

541
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,360
Speaker 3: you get what I mean, it's week eight.

542
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 5: You guys are five and three right there in the division.

543
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:30,479
Speaker 2: I don't get it.

544
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm asking you, Rob G, I'm asking you Kelvin.

545
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 4: As fathers you have, you don't try to Are you

546
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 4: really trying to go out and embarrass your kids? Seriously?

547
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 4: I just feel like I wouldn't want to do that,

548
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 4: and I always I know that my parents were always

549
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 4: conscious of that, like you know what I mean, like

550
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 4: like not wanting to embarrass the kids.

551
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,159
Speaker 3: I think the thing for me, Rob if he were

552
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 3: being defit, Let's say he had a horrible injury, and

553
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 3: then everybody's all he weak. He don't want to I

554
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 3: get that, right. This is just off of a game

555
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 3: you won. This is just getting more targets. In your mind,

556
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,239
Speaker 3: that's not worth putting him out there. If you just

557
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:09,919
Speaker 3: lost it because you were defending your son who got

558
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 3: his knee shredded and you you know what I mean,

559
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 3: and there are week get back out there. I can

560
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 3: understand that because you're coming to his honor. That's different

561
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 3: than berating the team and the targets and Caleb and

562
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 3: real offense. That's that's not necessary standing up for your

563
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 3: son who maybe again, Let's say he stood up for

564
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 3: something like Colin Kaepernick type of thing, and you were like, no,

565
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 3: he's trying to do it for the betterment of people.

566
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 5: Standing up for that. I get the idea that you're

567
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 5: berating a team that's five and three. He's the leading receiver.

568
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 5: They're trying to find their way.

569
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 3: It's the first year with the new coach, in the

570
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 3: new system, first year together with Caleb Week eight or nine.

571
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 5: What are we doing here? Pops?

572
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 1: In the social media era, especially, you should only be

573
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 1: a cheerleader. You better not say a damn thing that's

574
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: critical of your quarterback, of a teammate, of the coaching

575
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,679
Speaker 1: in any way, shape or critical of the city that

576
00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 1: you're playing in.

577
00:25:58,560 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 2: It just doesn't make because.

578
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 5: There's no win.

579
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no win there.

580
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: Like asking Al Horford's sister how was it to for

581
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 1: to talk crap about the city of Boston, and everything

582
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 1: she said was accurate, by the way, but all it

583
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,239
Speaker 1: led to you was, Hey, Al, your sister was on

584
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: social media yesterday saying there's a lot of racism in

585
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: the city of Boston.

586
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 2: Cared weigh in on it.

587
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 1: Right, if he comes out and says what he honestly

588
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 1: feels he's aliening alf the fan base, right, And it's

589
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: just like, there's no win in you going out of

590
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: your way to be critical of things you have no

591
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 1: control over.

592
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 4: And especially in this situation where you're coming off of

593
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 4: a big victory, right, a last second victory where you

594
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 4: weren't supposed to win that game, and the talk should

595
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 4: be about that. Being five and three in the division,

596
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 4: you're in the hunt. My god, they're alive. Like really,

597
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 4: it's like the right, It's like the Marvin Harrison right,

598
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 4: with the same kind of thing, like, uh, well, I

599
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 4: ain't saying this, but yeah, yes you are. You went

600
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 4: to ESPN dot com and you had these quotes about

601
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,439
Speaker 4: the offense and this, and that he didn't mention that

602
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 4: his son dropped up some of the easiest touchdowns ever

603
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 4: and on.

604
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 2: So many other bad plays.

605
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 5: Also, Pops, you play with Peyton Manning.

606
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, Pops, I know you want the best,

607
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 3: but Pops, you played with Peyton, Reggie, Wayne Stokely, Edrin James,

608
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 3: y'all had a lot going on over.

609
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 2: There was going back to Rome.

610
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: Is there a way that his dad could have conveyed

611
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: that message, Yes, without making.

612
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 3: What you said problem, this is what you say. I

613
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 3: look at this team and I know how talented Ben

614
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 3: Johnson is as a play caller. We know Caleb as

615
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 3: a Heisman winner, and my son is a beast. I

616
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 3: definitely expect more, you know more, whether if he wanted

617
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 3: to say, a better offense, you know, more continuity, you know,

618
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 3: like you can.

619
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 2: That's a really lating tweet tweet for no.

620
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 5: He pays for the one. He paid for, the one

621
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 5: where you give it, you know, like.

622
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: Could he have just said something like, man, just wait

623
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: till they get Rome fully integrated as well.

624
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 2: I'm moving forward there way.

625
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,239
Speaker 5: To the continent. This is only year one way two

626
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 5: years old.

627
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 4: Maybe what a win when you think about it that

628
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 4: they scored forty seven points and Rome wasn't even involved,

629
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 4: Like like that told you what?

630
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 2: That's even scary, right that could be you know what

631
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 2: I'm saying, like something like that.

632
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 5: That was a great one. Rob, that's a great one.

633
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 2: Had no trade him somewhere else? He needs that targets

634
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 2: a game.

635
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 3: And I'm like, Pops, this is eight game nine dude.

636
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 3: We got a whole new system. I'm a rookie.

637
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 2: We got a nine game love.

638
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 1: We haven't had a winning record that's laying to the

639
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: season in twenty five years.

640
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:37,360
Speaker 2: Unbelievable.

641
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 5: I'm just yeah, I think what's the last point for me.

642
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 3: One of the things that's blown me away about social media,

643
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 3: I think y'all will feel me on this was our

644
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 3: concern about young people.

645
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 5: Ultimately, what I've been.

646
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 3: Blown away the last decade is forty to fifty and

647
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 3: sixty year olds on social media who make a full

648
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 3: of themselves regularly.

649
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 5: That has been the number one take away from me.

650
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 3: Not the kids. Kids actually like you guys are dweeds.

651
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 3: We're going over there, kids make fun of us. It's

652
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 3: the adults, super big adults that do crazy, wild in

653
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 3: anything on social media.

654
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 5: That has been more shocking than anyth