1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio and 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,319 Speaker 1: So last week on the show, I bring Matt Hasselbeck on. 9 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: During the NFL season, and I had Hasselbeck on and 10 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: there was a story that Digo Pavia, the wildly. 11 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 3: Entertaining quarterback for Vanderbilt, you. 12 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: Know, and he you know, he's got some swag and 13 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 1: low cocky. There was a story that he was leaning 14 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: into Johnny Manziel Johnny Football as a mentor. And I 15 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: said on the air, I'm like, I don't know if 16 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: I like that. And then Matt hasselback and I asked 17 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: Matt Hasselbeck, I said, well, what do you make of 18 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: that with Johnny's turbulence in his football life? And Matt 19 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: Hasselbeck said something very interesting, don't. 20 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 4: I don't actually think it's a terrible thing at all 21 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 4: that Diego is maybe learning from Johnny Manzel as long 22 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 4: as it's that same kind of thing like, hey man, you. 23 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 5: Don't have to do what I did, and here's why. 24 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: And and Hasselbeck said he used Jeff George as a 25 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: mentor and similarly super talented. Little bit of turbulence. So 26 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 1: I said, in that moment, you know, I think I'm 27 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: wrong on this. I think you can learn from anybody 28 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: in life, and whoever you learn from, if they give 29 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: you good advice, take it. And Johnny Manziel found time 30 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: for us to come on the show. I told my staff, 31 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: I said, get him on the show. I want to 32 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: I want to go into detail on this. He is 33 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: unbelievably he's thirty three years old. That is that wild 34 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: when I saw that this morning. So you've got a 35 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: lot of life experience, a lot, And so I looked 36 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: up Diego Pavia's kind of family background and you know, listen, Johnny, 37 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 1: there's some there's some bumps with it. 38 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 3: It's not perfect. Do you worry? I mean, do you 39 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 3: know him? 40 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: If I could ask this, like, what kind of advice 41 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: is good advice from you to him right now in 42 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: his life? 43 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 6: Listen for the people who see Diego Pavia and they 44 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 6: see our friendship and the first thing that they say is, well, 45 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 6: that makes sense. 46 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 5: Why Diego acts the way that he does. 47 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 6: He acts a lot like Johnny manziel Well, first and 48 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 6: foremost what he does on the field is he plays 49 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 6: a lot like me. As I've got to know him 50 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 6: as a person, and I've made trips to Nashville. I've 51 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 6: gone to dinner with his family. I've got to see 52 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 6: how his life is. Believe it or not, Guys, Diego 53 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 6: Pavia was partying before he ever met me. This guy 54 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 6: is a leading quarterback of SEC school. I don't know 55 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 6: if you guys know, but Marcel Reid, I don't care 56 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 6: if it was Aj mcceron back in the day or 57 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 6: Aaron Murray, whoever, it's been SEC quarterbacks in a town 58 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 6: like Nashville. They're going to go out, They're going to 59 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 6: have fun. These are college kids. It's no different than 60 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 6: what the frat kids are doing. You just have more 61 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 6: eyes on you. So when I met Diego and I 62 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 6: got to know how he was, I saw a guy 63 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 6: that could very easily get caught up in the money 64 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 6: that he's making, could very much be out too much. 65 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 6: So let's give you this example. After the Heisman and 66 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 6: the weekend I was there with him. Obviously, I was 67 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 6: very vocal about him wanting to win it. I think 68 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 6: ultimately it went to the right person and what Mendoza did. 69 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 6: But we went out. I took him and his teammates 70 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 6: out to Marquis in New York, and I started to 71 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 6: see other people that he had known running signs and 72 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 6: buying bottles with negative things to say about the heisman 73 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 6: or this, and that irked me, so I didn't talk. 74 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 5: To him for a couple of days after that. 75 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 6: I let him go back home and deal with the 76 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 6: shame that he had to for making that and doing 77 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 6: that on his own, and then when I spoke to him, 78 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 6: I hit him up a couple days later. I'm like, hey, listen, man, 79 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 6: you have to do the things that I didn't do. 80 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 6: You have to carry yourself with a little more class. 81 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 6: You are going to be doubted, are going to have 82 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 6: people come at you and try and tear you apart 83 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 6: when you go to the combine. They may drop a 84 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 6: binder on your in front of you with everything that 85 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 6: you've done wrong. 86 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 5: Since you've been in college. So you need to be 87 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 5: prepared for this. 88 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 6: Here's how I would answer these questions with honesty. And 89 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 6: integrity and get out in front of it and do 90 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 6: the things that I didn't do where I was just like, oh, yeah, 91 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 6: I'm good. What are you guys talking about. It's just 92 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 6: in college. I'll change it. You have to actually make 93 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 6: the changes for these people to believe in you, Diego. 94 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 6: You're not a first round pick, you're not a second 95 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 6: round pick, you're not a third round pick. You were 96 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 6: going to have to get into a situation, claw and 97 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 6: fight through training camp for a roster spot. 98 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 5: And then maybe that won't even happen. 99 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 6: Maybe you'll be on a practice squad and you'll bounce 100 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 6: around three different times. But life moving forward for Diego 101 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 6: Pavia is going to have to be about a couple 102 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 6: of things. Who you surround yourself with and who you're 103 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 6: getting your advice from, the work ethic that you put 104 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 6: into the building. Pretty much, this all the things that 105 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 6: I didn't do that got my ass kicked out of 106 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 6: the NF all in two years. 107 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: Well, people are different. I mean Tom Brady famously didn't 108 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: drink a beer during the season. That doesn't mean that 109 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: everybody else has to be that. When you look back 110 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: at your journey, and I've talked about with friends about 111 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: this in life is that I don't have a ton 112 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: of regrets because in my twenties I did things that 113 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: I wouldn't do now. 114 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 3: But now I'm sixty, so. 115 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: Like people do what they do at the time because 116 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 1: it feels fun, and you're a free spirit and you 117 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: did what you did. Is there anything through your journey though? 118 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: If there was one thing I said, Johnny, what's the 119 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: one thing if you could do it again? You'd be like, yeah, yea, yeah, yeah, 120 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: I wouldn't do that because I do think you're a 121 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: free spirit, You're different. You've got a big personality that 122 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: by the way, I think you played better with a 123 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: chip on your shoulder. I think you played better cocky. 124 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: But is there one thing you do regret? 125 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 6: I look back and people ask me this question all 126 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 6: the time. I don't play the what if game too much, 127 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 6: but I do play and have a point throughout my 128 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 6: career where I wish I would have gone back to 129 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 6: and made changes and been different. Right, you could always 130 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 6: go back and have fun later in life, after you 131 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 6: set yourself up for success and get your you know, 132 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 6: finances in order and go have a career that you 133 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 6: can look back and be proud of. I look back 134 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 6: at a career that I know, and I'm honest with 135 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 6: myself about how it went. Do I wish I would 136 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 6: have got to play longer. I'm watching guys who came 137 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 6: into the league a year after me, and Jamis and 138 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 6: Marcus Mariota who are continuing to play. If you think 139 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 6: I don't watch the football season and think about that 140 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 6: and see that and have you know ish there? 141 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 5: You know times. 142 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 6: Throughout my career and after my career where I'm like, damn, 143 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 6: I wish I was still playing. However, I very much 144 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 6: told myself in my head, and I've come to peace 145 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 6: with what my football career was. You know, I can 146 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 6: sit back in my life and be viewed as a 147 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,239 Speaker 6: legend in college football, a guy that disrupted the game, 148 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 6: took the world by storm, did things beyond my wildest 149 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 6: dreams and my football career, and hey, I went to Cleveland. 150 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 5: It didn't work out. I didn't work hard enough. 151 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 6: But for me, maybe God has put me on this 152 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 6: earth to not be a guy that played in the 153 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 6: NFL for fifteen years and win a Super Bowl and 154 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 6: do all these things. I still have an unbelievable gift 155 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 6: in my life, which is to be noticed, to be recognized, 156 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 6: and I'm at a point right now where I feel 157 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 6: like there's a lot of good that I can do 158 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 6: in the world with the platform I have, with the 159 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 6: story that I have. My interactions with people since my 160 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 6: documentary has come out has been completely different in what 161 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 6: people say to me on the streets, and it's special, it's. 162 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 5: Powerful, and I am a people person. 163 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 6: I talk to people every single day, whether it's my 164 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 6: Uber driver, whether it's somebody at a checkout line. I 165 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 6: feel like I am in the position now in my 166 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 6: life to give back, to do good things, and to 167 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 6: be a positive influence, a positive impact that I necessarily 168 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 6: wasn't in the past. So you always play and go 169 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 6: forward with the cards that you're dealt and hopefully, through 170 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 6: time and through effort and through working on myself and 171 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 6: helping other people, I'll look back on it one day 172 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 6: and be proud of what football did for me rather 173 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 6: than feel disappointed about not going to the playoffs or 174 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 6: being in Super Bowl winning quarterback. 175 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: Well, I mean the Sam Darnold's story is a great 176 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: example of he went to a bad organization that did 177 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: not have great leadership, and then he finally goes to 178 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: San Francisco doesn't play, but he gets Kyle Shanahan and 179 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: it's like, Oh, this is what a grown up organization feels. 180 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: Like Diego Pavia in yourself, if I said to you, Johnny, 181 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: you would have gone to the Ravens. Really well, run 182 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: a lot of mentors in the building. 183 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 3: I mean some of some. 184 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: I could make an argument with Diego Pavia and Johnny 185 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: Manziel ten years ago, some of it was where you landed. 186 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: In fact, Johnny, from twenty ten to twenty nineteen, only 187 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: three of twenty nine first round quarterbacks are still with 188 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: their teams. Mahomes, Lamar and Josh Well. Those are all 189 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: winning organizations. So like, the bottom line is, we're all 190 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: influenced by our environment. Do you think if you would 191 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 1: have gone to a place that was stable, it may 192 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: have been different. 193 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 6: I've spoke my peace on Cleveland a long time ago, 194 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 6: and I kind of just let them be what they 195 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 6: are and do what they need to do for themselves. 196 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:07,839 Speaker 5: But I always think about that. 197 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 6: But the thing about me is I had no matter 198 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 6: who was there on a coaching staff, no matter how 199 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 6: big of a struggling organization it was, I had Joe Thomas, 200 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 6: Alex Mack, Joe Hayden. 201 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 5: Really good people in the building tried to get through 202 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 5: to me, and it just wasn't able to happen at. 203 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 6: That point in time in my life. You know, I 204 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 6: had a lot of things that went on before the draft. 205 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 6: I've spoke about this a lot of times. So maybe 206 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 6: if I go to a winning organization with a different 207 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 6: coaching staff or GM or you know, front office running 208 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,719 Speaker 6: a different way, maybe, but I was still headed down 209 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 6: the path where I needed to get woken up by life. 210 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 6: And that's taken you know, a lot of time, a 211 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 6: lot of years. I've been out of the league for 212 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 6: eleven years. A lot of things have gone on in 213 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 6: those ten eleven years. Shoot, it's been fourteen years since 214 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 6: I won the Heisman, so. 215 00:09:58,240 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 5: Time is flying by. 216 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 6: I'm just growing up and getting into a lot different 217 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 6: places mentally for what I do in my life, what 218 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 6: I enjoyed doing. 219 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 5: And I know it's always a what if, and I 220 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 5: don't know. 221 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 6: I still think I could have would have had a 222 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 6: multitude of issues with who I was as a person 223 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 6: at twenty two to twenty three years old. 224 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 225 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 2: and noon Eastern nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 226 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 227 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 7: Stick outs here. 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So everybody complains about the NIL and 249 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: the transfer portal, but I'm kind of like I like 250 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: the idea of college kids getting a little scratch, a 251 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 1: little lettuce before pros because we used to do documentaries 252 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: on athletes go broke, and you don't see that as 253 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: much because kids they got a little bit of money. 254 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: I like the NIL as a kid that was around 255 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: some money. Do you worry about the NIL and what 256 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: it provides or are you comfortable with it and think 257 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 1: it helps young athletes. 258 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 6: I talked to Marceau Read about this on my podcast 259 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 6: last week, and I asked him, are the schools and 260 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 6: the programs having financial people come in and talk to you? 261 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 6: Are they making sure your guys are being smart about money? 262 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 6: You have a private jet deal right now? Marsau read, 263 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 6: how are you keeping from spending forty thousand to take 264 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 6: the boys and to go on a trip and do stuff? 265 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 5: And he said they do have people come in. 266 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 6: I believe there's probably people in college station and in 267 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 6: these towns that are bankers that are you know, people 268 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 6: that are managing their money that are trying the best 269 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 6: to make sure these when these kids get early money. 270 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 6: You know, if you're a high school kid and you're 271 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 6: coming out, you could get a million dollars dropped in 272 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 6: your bank account by the time and first day that 273 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 6: you get on campus. 274 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 5: That's crazy. 275 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 6: I obviously had an experience with money very early on, 276 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 6: and it took me a long time to learn about 277 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 6: it because I didn't educate myself. So it still has 278 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 6: the ability to go both ways. It is a lot 279 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 6: of money. We're seeing point right now where there's a 280 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 6: roundtable discussion about what's happening with college football and the playoff. 281 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 6: I know, at the end of this month, as a 282 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 6: group of Heisman winners, we're all going to a location, 283 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 6: we're sitting down, they're updating this on where the Heisman 284 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 6: Trophy ceremony fits into this playoff. You know, where does 285 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 6: it fit into the end of the year now. I 286 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 6: think it's something that we are all very much concerned 287 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 6: because as a former winner, we love this event. 288 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 5: We love being back. 289 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 6: I love being around the guys and seeing everybody who 290 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 6: comes back. It's a special thing in the history of 291 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 6: college football. I don't want to see that go away, 292 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 6: but there are things that are constantly changing. It shouldn't 293 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 6: be paid for play Guys should get paid to do 294 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 6: a commercial or nil deal or this right now, it's 295 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 6: just a wild wild West. You need some regulations and 296 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 6: you need some things for these college kids to not 297 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 6: just have all the power and run over the game 298 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 6: that is college football right now. It's ridiculous. I think 299 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 6: a lot of coaches are sticking up about it. You've 300 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 6: seen Kle talk about it. You've seen Dabbo, You've seen Elko, 301 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,839 Speaker 6: You've seen you know, Signetti. A lot of these guys 302 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 6: be like, Yo, this is crazy. What's going on with 303 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 6: tambourine in this or that? In college football right now 304 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 6: is run by agents that may not have a lot 305 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 6: of experience, but they're friends or family friends of somebody 306 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 6: who's got with these guys, and I don't think they're 307 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 6: always getting the best advice. The thing that you can't 308 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 6: do as a college athlete is transfer or get into 309 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 6: the transfer portal and then not find a new home, 310 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 6: and then you're back at home where you started this 311 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 6: whole journey without a team. 312 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 5: You may never get back. 313 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 6: So it's trend lightly in this and really it's really 314 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 6: benefiting the top guys of college football. 315 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: The you you went to Texas A and M. But 316 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: you're right now in Austin. I've always said, I think 317 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: there's three programs in college football that I love when 318 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: they're good, Miami, Texas, and USC because I think they 319 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: feel like almost like thirty percent NFL. 320 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 3: They're big. 321 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: A lot of college programs are rural town, small towns. 322 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: That's great too, But I love that Miami's good. I 323 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: like that Texas is good. But I've always said Texas, 324 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: for all the resources actually underachieved, they should have like 325 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: nine Natties. What I and I said this years ago, 326 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: I said, I think it's too distracting. 327 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 3: Austin's too fun. 328 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: There's the scene, there's the food, there's the women, there's 329 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: the it's just this wild, fun town. Is it possible 330 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: that there's too many good things going on in Austin 331 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: to be as good all time as Alabama or Ohio State? 332 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 5: Well, to be honest, it all kind of started in the. 333 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 6: Twenty ten and twenty. 334 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 5: Eleven recruiting class. 335 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 6: Two thousand and eight two thousand and nine recruiting class, 336 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 6: Texas made some iffy decisions on who they were going 337 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 6: to give the keys to for their team, and they 338 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 6: really really messed up by not offering this quarterback out 339 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 6: of Kerrville Tybee A Scholarship. They went through their downhill slide, 340 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 6: and we got to watch it from a Texas A 341 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 6: and M point of view with a big smile on 342 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 6: our faces as they ate it on Saturdays every year 343 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 6: for four or five years. 344 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 5: But look, I. 345 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 6: Understand the USC is, the Miamis, the Texas's, they should 346 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 6: be better this and that. 347 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,239 Speaker 5: I am a bigger fan in college. 348 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 6: Football right now of the Texas A and MS, the Vanderbilts, 349 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 6: the Indiana's, the teams who haven't been good in the past, 350 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 6: but the NIL landscape has allowed them an opportunity to 351 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 6: change their program very very fast. With the right coach, 352 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 6: the right leadership, the right money of boosters, you can 353 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 6: have Vandy have a season like they had. You can 354 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 6: have Indiana come back and win a national championship, get 355 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 6: a quarterback in the team like Mendoza, and you go 356 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 6: and you knock off a Miami team who's been dying 357 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 6: to get back to that position since the early two thousands. 358 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 5: So I like the parody of college football. 359 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 6: Look, we'll always have the history of the Texas USC 360 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 6: Rose Bowl. We'll always have the history of the Miami Hurricanes. 361 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 5: Teams that are some of the best ever. I said 362 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 5: this on the podcast a couple of weeks ago. 363 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 6: The Big ten is kind of running the show in 364 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 6: college football right now. It's taken a lot of power 365 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,479 Speaker 6: from the SEC and we'll see if that continues to shift. 366 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 1: I got to end with this. It's a personal question, 367 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: so you don't have to answer it. But you sound 368 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: so much more mature than ten years ago. And by 369 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: the way, you're older obviously, But in your journey, how 370 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: did you get there? Was it therapy, parenting? Looking in 371 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: the mirror, you sound like a different guy. You've got 372 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: a different perspective. That is really hard to do because 373 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: you not only had some missteps. 374 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 3: You were public. 375 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 1: It's much harder to do when your public and people 376 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: were reminding you of your mistakes. How did you get 377 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: to today? 378 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 6: Look, I think I've accepted the fact that I'm human, 379 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 6: I make mistakes. 380 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 5: I'm really hard on myself. 381 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,479 Speaker 6: If you guys don't think I was really hard on 382 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 6: myself about things that were going on the past that 383 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 6: embarrassed myself, embarrassed my school, embarrassed you know, my family. 384 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 5: You know, I was. 385 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 6: Always raised by a great group of parents who did 386 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,360 Speaker 6: a lot for me, who instilled great values. I went 387 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 6: to amazing coaches in my life that instilled good morals, 388 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:18,199 Speaker 6: good values, good things in me. 389 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 5: And now I've done a lot of work on myself. 390 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 5: I've spent a lot of time with therapists. 391 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 6: I've worked through a lot of trauma that we all 392 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 6: have in our life, from the way that we grew up, 393 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 6: from things that may have happened with your parents, from 394 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 6: instances in life that you couldn't always control. You know, 395 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 6: I couldn't control certain things that happened to me in 396 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 6: my life, and there was a lot of things. 397 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 5: That I could that I didn't do right. 398 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 6: So from there, I've taken an honest assessment and an 399 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 6: honest look at my life and what's transpired, what I 400 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 6: did to myself, what other people did to me, and 401 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 6: I look at it through a very honest lens. And 402 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 6: to be honest, I look at situations now in life 403 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 6: from not only my perspective, but from how this may 404 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 6: affect somebody else, or if this is and is made, 405 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 6: what does it mean for. 406 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 5: This or that? 407 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 6: And look, I hold myself to my own own standard. 408 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 6: I was raised in a church. I feel like I 409 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 6: have more religion in my life. I have better friends 410 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 6: that surround me. I have a passion and a purpose 411 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 6: in my life of things that I want to do 412 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 6: moving forward that get me out of bed every day 413 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 6: and that move me. I'm in a great place in 414 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 6: every sense of the way, work wise, family wise, where 415 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 6: I live, what I have going on in my life, 416 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 6: and I'm proud of those things. And there's one thing 417 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 6: about me is I appreciate Hasselback and what he had 418 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 6: to say that got me here last week. I appreciate 419 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 6: you for having the perspective that you had on things. 420 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 6: And I'm a writer for my friends. You have always 421 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 6: been good to me. I appreciate you having me come 422 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 6: on the show. And more than anything, like I said, 423 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 6: I want to spread a great message of when you 424 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 6: come into my life and you have me on your show, 425 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 6: I want you to feel like, man, that guy is 426 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 6: doing better in life. 427 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 5: He has grown up. 428 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 6: And if you come into my life and interact with 429 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 6: me in the streets, I want you to leave with 430 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 6: a you know, interaction with me that was funny, that 431 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 6: was fun and that made you feel good and have 432 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 6: a good time. And That's what I'm going to continue 433 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,360 Speaker 6: to do for the rest of my life. 434 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 3: Wow. Great perspective. Good for you. 435 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: Hey, you know what, let me ask you a football 436 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: question before we go. Yeah, Fernando Mendoza not a great athlete. 437 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 1: People say he's a little dorky, whatever, so was Andrew Luck. 438 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: What do you make of him just as a player. 439 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: What do you make of him? 440 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 5: Yeah? 441 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 6: I think he's going to continue to get better. I 442 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 6: think he throws, as I was watching him at the 443 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 6: National Championship game, throws a really good ball, has a 444 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 6: lot of zip on his passes, reads coverage very well. 445 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 6: He obviously had some good help at the receiver point, 446 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 6: and the team that they had last year in Indiana. 447 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 6: The situation he's going into is going to call for 448 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 6: a lot of patients. But Brock Bauers, you know, gent 449 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 6: rebuild some of the offensive line, get a defense, you 450 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 6: keep Max Crosby, like, have some patients with it, and 451 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 6: I feel. 452 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 5: Like this kid is going to be very good. 453 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 6: He more than impressed me around him at the Heisman. 454 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 6: We have continued our relationship since then, and I've talked 455 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 6: to him, you know, a lot, through. 456 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 5: This period of the NFL Draft. He's a great kid. 457 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 5: I wish him nothing but the best. 458 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, good stuff, Johnny really appreciate it. You gave us 459 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:18,239 Speaker 1: twenty minutes you didn't have to, and god speed, good 460 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 1: luck to you. You're always welcome on the show. If 461 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: you want to promote something, call us, we'll put you on. 462 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 1: I'd love to have you on during the season. You 463 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: got great insight. 464 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 3: For sure, for sure. 465 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 6: Yeah, anytime. Thank you guys, Thank you to your staff everybody. 466 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 6: Thanks for letting come on the Herd. Much love you. 467 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: Bet Johnny Manziel, Johnny football, who has really turned his 468 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: life around, and good for him. 469 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 5: Good. 470 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: You know, it was funny when I reached out. I thought, 471 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: you know, we've been critical of him. You know, this 472 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: is I talk. He's an athlete. 473 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 3: I talk. 474 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: I try to be fair, and I thought, yeah, he 475 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: probably not going to be comfortable. Boom, he said, you absolutely, 476 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 1: I want to talk about it. So good for him. 477 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: Kind of transformational to listen to him from ten years ago, 478 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: right like, Wow, you know, put his head down, got 479 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: some therapy, looked in the mirror. 480 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 3: Different dude. He'd be you know, he'd be a. 481 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 1: I'm telling you if you didn't see him play at 482 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: Texas A and M like he was. I mean, there's 483 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: been a handful of college quarterbacks, uh, Johnny Manziel, Cam Newton, 484 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 1: Tommy Fraser at Nebraska. You know Tim Tebow that you're 485 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: just watching them and you're not sure it's gonna work 486 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: at the next level, but it really works at the 487 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 1: college level. And I mean, he was just dude, he 488 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: was just different. He was one of the first quarterbacks 489 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: that Nick Saban put his hands in the airs like, yeah, 490 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: I can't I can't stop this guy. 491 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 3: Johnny Football. 492 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: That is a great nickname of all the of all 493 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: the football nicknames, Johnny Football's. 494 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 3: Pretty damn strong. We'll take a break. 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So I figured we do tomorrow headlines today. 506 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: Tomorrow's headlines today with Jamack. There's a lot of NFL 507 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: free agency presence. They've all been wrapped. So here we 508 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: go tomorrow's headlines today. Let's talk about the big movers 509 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 1: and shakers during free agency. 510 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 3: What will the headline be for one Max Crosby. 511 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 4: Well, I'm a little nervous about this one, Colin, given 512 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 4: the early back and forth squabbling we had over Kirk 513 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 4: Cousins Mendoza. I mean, listen, Raiders, you think the earro's 514 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 4: pointing up the headline for Max Crosby staying in Vegas 515 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 4: will be the holdover what sacks in Vegas stays in Vegas. 516 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,439 Speaker 4: I do believe they will be good, but Colin, I 517 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 4: have major questions. So everybody's excited. Hey, we got Kwaig 518 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 4: Walker at linebacker. We got to Kobe Dean to help 519 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 4: the defense. Colin, I looked into their defensive coordinator, a 520 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 4: gentleman named Rob Leonard. First time defensive coordinator, first time 521 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 4: calling plays, young guy bounced around the league. We have 522 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 4: no idea what to expect from this, And again we're 523 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 4: talking about a rookie quarterback. I know you love the 524 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 4: Linderbaum signing. They made a couple moves around the edges, 525 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 4: and it's easy to get excited about all they made 526 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 4: all this spend all this money. Maybe they can make 527 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 4: it moves, Colin. I did look this up last year. 528 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 4: Just how bad was this defense? Twenty eighth in pressure rate, 529 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 4: could not get to the quarterback, fifth in misstackles. Okay, 530 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 4: they were just middling among defensive EPA. 531 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,719 Speaker 8: So this was like a below average group. 532 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 4: And I don't know that a couple of linebackers and 533 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 4: Max Crosby returning off a major injury, with a new 534 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 4: defensive coordinator, a new head coach, a rookie quarterback, it 535 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 4: may be too much and we may want to recalibrate 536 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 4: to like a of six wins, Max, Max, I see 537 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 4: you're negative? 538 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 8: You like that? 539 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, tomorrow's headlines today? How about Tua leaving the Dolphins, 540 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: big dead money hit. 541 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 3: Where will he land? 542 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, everybody's excited about Kyler Murray. I think two was 543 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 4: actually the bigger move. This has the potential to be 544 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 4: great for the young guy out of Alabama. The headline 545 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 4: for Tua in Atlanta next season will be Tua left 546 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 4: turns NFC South, Pause turned right, into playoffs, Colin, I 547 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 4: think this is a playoff team. Now every year we 548 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 4: do this with Atlanta. This is the year, right Bijon Drake. 549 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 4: They're keeping Kyle Pitts, Colin, I think the earro is 550 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 4: pointing up. I looked into the Michael Pennock's injury, so 551 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 4: this is interesting. They're calling it a partially torn ACL 552 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 4: that appears to be a nine month recovery. 553 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 8: He got it late November. 554 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 4: That conservatively puts him back in August. I'm ready to 555 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 4: go on record now that two is starting Week one 556 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 4: in Atlanta for Stefanski. 557 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 8: And remember who at Stefanski like in Cleveland. 558 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 4: Dylan Gabriel, similar profile, athletically lefty small Chtua. I think 559 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 4: Tua starts and Colin, this is a good offense, a 560 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 4: good head coach. There's some things to like about the Falcons. 561 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 4: Who I know you dislike every year. 562 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: Tomorrow's headlines Today I'm in Malik Willis is a rising star. 563 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 3: What say you with the headlines? 564 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 8: What was it? 565 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 4: The thirty five pass attends last season, the five starts 566 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 4: in four years. The headline for Malik Willis in Miami 567 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 4: will be micro QB Macro Challenge Miami has pocket sized problems. Listen, 568 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 4: I know this a little bit harsh Dolphins fans. I'm sorry, Listen, 569 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 4: it's a good deal. I like it, but Colin, I 570 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 4: don't know what Miami's game plan is here. They dump 571 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 4: most of their good players. Right, Let's get our cap 572 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 4: in order. We dumped to a biggest cap hit, dead 573 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 4: cap hit in NFL history. We've got eight chan, Waddle 574 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 4: and Willis and pretty much basically nothing else. Offensive line, eh, 575 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 4: defense ridden with holes. You got a first time head coach. 576 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 4: I don't see this going great. I know you like Willis, 577 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 4: but I'm just not seeing it the upside. This feels 578 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 4: like a five or six win team and they'll be drafting. 579 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 4: I don't know you think Willis is their franchise quarterback 580 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 4: because I don't think so. 581 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 3: Well. 582 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: They're going to have to for the next two years 583 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: like Denver did with Russell Wilson's cap hit. They're going 584 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: to have to hit on a majority of their draft picks. 585 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: They're going to have to hit on their high end 586 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: draft picks so they can get elite talent without paying it. 587 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: That's the only way to get out of this is 588 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: hitting on an inexpensive quarterback. Like bo Nix or when 589 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: you get into problems so you cross your fingers. 590 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 4: Denver also had Sean Payton and Miami has Jeff Haffley. 591 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: True tomorrow's headlines today, we can all agree that d 592 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: J Moore to the Bills is good, right. 593 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 8: Maybe so. 594 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 4: DJ Moore, obviously a good receiver, has been declining a 595 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 4: little in Chicago, but the headline for DJ Moore in 596 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 4: Buffalo will be less is more, Buffalo does more with less. 597 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I think this is still a playoff team. 598 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 4: Obviously, Josh Allen helps being one of the best quarterbacks 599 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 4: in the league, but the offense did sputter at times. 600 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 8: Last year. 601 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 4: They had the electric James Cook, I like the two 602 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 4: tight ends, Shaki a real good slot receiver, they were 603 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 4: lacking a stretch the field guy, and DJ Moore adds 604 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 4: that for sure. I guess my question would be defensively, 605 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 4: Colin like, sure, the offense is gonna be fine and 606 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 4: Josh Allen's probably gonna outscore. 607 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 8: Folks, But have they done enough defensively? 608 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 4: Watching bo Knicks carve them up in that playoff game 609 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 4: that seared in my head. That was awful, and they 610 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 4: lose Tearron Johnson one of the best nickel cornerbacks in 611 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 4: the league. 612 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 8: He's gone best I can tell, still unsigned. I don't 613 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 8: know that. 614 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 4: There's a lot of movers and jakers on that defense, 615 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 4: and we're seeing you mentioned it with the Chiefs earlier. 616 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 4: The defense just doesn't have it Buffalo, same deal. Both 617 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 4: of these guys, Chiefs and Bills have decided, we paid 618 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 4: our quarterback. 619 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 8: Let's go all in on offense, forget the defense. 620 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: Finally, tomorrow's headlines today, Mike Evans to the Niners feels 621 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: like another wide receiver of age, another offensive player in 622 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: the thirties joining an older team. 623 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 3: What do you got? 624 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I like Mike Evans a lot. You know, 625 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 4: I love me some Rock Perdy. Evans already saying really 626 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 4: nice things about Perdy. It warms my heart. However, the 627 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 4: headline for Mike Evans to the forty nine Ers will 628 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 4: be over the Evans and through the woods to play 629 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 4: more golf. 630 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 8: We go, Colin. 631 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 4: I don't have the Niners in the playoffs in the 632 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 4: NFC next season, and I'm with you, this is just 633 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 4: an old team. I'd love the Evans contract. It's essentially 634 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 4: a one year deal for like sixteen million. In chance 635 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 4: and he should help them. But this is a riddled offense. 636 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 4: With the best players on your defense are coming off 637 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 4: season ending injuries, you lose Sala. 638 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 3: You know. 639 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 4: I want to like this Niners team, but that's the 640 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 4: toughest division in football, right well, I mean, we know 641 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 4: the Rams are loaded. 642 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: Listen, They've got some good young players because of their 643 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: draft picks. The problem is all their best players are old, Kittle, McCaffrey, 644 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: Trent Warner, Bosa. It's not that they don't have, you know. 645 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,959 Speaker 1: I mean, Pearsol's a nice young player, he's not one 646 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: of their top seven or eight players, not yet. So 647 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: brock Perty is one of their only exceptional players who's young. 648 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: So they it's not just you can have old players, 649 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: but when they're the foundational pieces of your football team, 650 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: old players get hurt more often and they recover more slowly. 651 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: And the NFL season has never been longer. So that's 652 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: kind of where the. 653 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 8: Christian McCaffrey things interesting. 654 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 4: I don't I don't really want to put this out there, 655 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 4: but I think it deserves a little discussion. Let's say 656 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 4: the Niner season is not going their way four and 657 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 4: seven around the trade deadline, do they start dangling pieces 658 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 4: for a quick rebuild on the fly. 659 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 8: Do they put McCaffrey out there? 660 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 4: Hey, any contender want to come crab Christian McCaffrey and 661 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 4: make a move. 662 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 8: You know he would be huge on so many teams 663 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:13,959 Speaker 8: because he's well. 664 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: There's already been a rumor about Trent Williams. So I 665 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: think you get to a point if you can get 666 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: a big draft pick with a thirty eight year old 667 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: left tackle, you know somebody. Again, I think everything with 668 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: the Niners, to your point, is on the table if 669 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: they start slowly. The Rams and the Seahawks are two 670 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: of the best rosters in the sport. Arizona's now got 671 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: an offensive guy. You know, Arizona can be dangerous with 672 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,479 Speaker 1: all the weapons they have at tight end, wide receiver, 673 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: running back. So I think everything with San Francisco's on 674 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: the table. I just know that the their seven or 675 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: eight best players are all guys who have been banged 676 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: up in recent years. 677 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 8: All of them like. 678 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 4: Some mac Jones stuff. It sounds like they were asking 679 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 4: for a lot. Let's see what happens if a quarterback 680 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 4: gets digged up in the preseason elsewhere or in the summer, 681 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, somebody needs a quarterback. I 682 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 4: mean you probably got to offload Mac Jones and get 683 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 4: whatever you can right the twenty seven draft, Colent, I 684 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 4: know we say this every year. 685 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 8: It's pretty loaded. 686 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 4: Like Jeremiah Smith from Ohio State probably is the best 687 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 4: non quarterback in the draft, and the quarterbacks are going 688 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 4: to go at the top. 689 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 8: It's a loaded draft. I think Niners are going to 690 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 8: start selling pieces. We'll see. 691 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: Johnny Mandel stopped by for about twenty five minutes earlier 692 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: this hour, did a really nice job. There's a story 693 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: out that he is mentoring Vanderbilt quarterback Diego Pavia And 694 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: at first I kind of pushed back. I don't know 695 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: if that's a good thing. Matt Hasselbeck said, I think 696 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: it actually is a good thing. And here's some of 697 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: the advice Johnny's given him. 698 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 6: Hey, listen, man, you have to do the things that 699 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 6: I didn't do. You have to carry yourself with a 700 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 6: little more class. You are going to be doubted. You 701 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 6: are going to have people come at you and try 702 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 6: and tear you apart. When you go to the combine. 703 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 6: They may drop a binder on your in front of you. 704 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 6: With everything that you've done wrong since you've been in college, 705 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 6: so you need to be prepared for this. Here's how 706 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,719 Speaker 6: I would answer these questions with honesty and integrity and 707 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 6: get out in front of it and do the things 708 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 6: that I didn't do where I was just. 709 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 5: Like, oh yeah, I'm good. What are you guys talking about. 710 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 5: It's just in college. I'll change it. 711 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 6: You have to actually make the changes for these people 712 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 6: to believe in you. 713 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 3: Very refreshing. 714 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,719 Speaker 1: I'll put it on the podcast Talk with Johnny Manziel 715 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: Johnny Football. Netflix did a doc on him that was, 716 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: I mean, eye opening, eye opening stuff. All right, I'll 717 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: be back tomorrow with John Middletoff, J Maxx probably going 718 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: to some adventure in the Pacific. You know, he's a 719 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: world global traveler. Global citizens heard