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Speaker 1: Welcome into north Side Territory Foul Territory Networks Cubs Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Sahadev Sharma with my partner Patrick Mooney. We are

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Speaker 1: your Cubs beat writers over at the Athletic Patrick. Today,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have a guest Jeff Bonce from Baseball America.

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Speaker 1: Jeff is going to talk about the Cubs farm system,

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Speaker 1: which is, you know, not as brilliant as it felt

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Speaker 1: like it was coming into the season. We've had a

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Speaker 1: lot of graduations here, so you know, a lot of

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Speaker 1: impact from the youth, but still a solid group. I

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Speaker 1: would say we can get Jeff analysis on that before

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Speaker 1: let's bring in Jeff. What's up man, Thanks so much

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Speaker 1: for joining us.

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Speaker 2: Happy to be here talking some Cubs with you guys.

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Speaker 1: Let's just start off with how how is this system

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Speaker 1: right now?

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Speaker 3: It?

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Speaker 1: I know technically some of these guys haven't graduated, but

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Speaker 1: with Horton, Shaw and PCA not in the system, anymore.

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Speaker 3: Uh, where where is the system the health of it is? It?

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Speaker 1: Is it deep enough that the Cubs can still feel

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Speaker 1: good about things just in general.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they're in a good spot just from

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Speaker 2: you know, where they're at with the major league team. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: the big question is whether you know, Kyle Tucker resigns

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Speaker 2: or not. But you know, in terms of what you

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Speaker 2: did to make that trade, they didn't have to dig

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Speaker 2: into a lot of the upper miners death that they

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Speaker 2: have that you know, maybe isn't necessarily a fit for

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Speaker 2: you know, a competitive team like the Cubs that has

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Speaker 2: designs on you know, making a run in the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: et cetera. But I do think you know, you can

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Speaker 2: look at moist Spouseos. You did see a little bit

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Speaker 2: of time in the big leagues. You know, Kevin al Kintara,

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Speaker 2: Obviously you've been down a little bit this season. I

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Speaker 2: feel like that's always kind of part for the course

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Speaker 2: without Kantara is he's either super cold or scorching hot

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Speaker 2: for a month and that's kind of how the production

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Speaker 2: comes along. But still a really talented player, a really

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Speaker 2: talented defender in center field. It's just with PCA there

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Speaker 2: and all world defender and center. He's not going to

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Speaker 2: be up. The other one being Owen Casey, who is

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Speaker 2: somebody that I think, you know, teams would definitely be

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Speaker 2: interested in, you know, a very solid defender out in

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Speaker 2: the corner outfield spot. There's big power. Though the strikeout

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Speaker 2: numbers have kind of backed up a little bit this year.

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Speaker 2: The contact skills, the swing decisions that are all sort

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Speaker 2: of in line with what they've been the last two years.

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Speaker 2: So I think for some of these guys, really they

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Speaker 2: kind of need that challenge of getting up to the

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Speaker 2: big leagues and seeing what they can do. You know,

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Speaker 2: for a system that's maybe not ranked among the top

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Speaker 2: five or six. This isn't the Red Sox, this isn't

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Speaker 2: the Mariners or the Brewers or system like that. It

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Speaker 2: is a really talented system, and I do think that

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Speaker 2: they have attractive trade pieces that would you know, be

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Speaker 2: beneficial to a contender at the trade deadline. We're coming

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Speaker 2: into that stretch now that we're hitting mid June, you know,

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Speaker 2: the next six to seven weeks. You know, a lot

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Speaker 2: of these deals of course, are going to get done,

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Speaker 2: and I think the Cubs are in a position to

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Speaker 2: shop in that area. You know, depending upon it whether

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Speaker 2: they want to part with some other guys that have

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Speaker 2: kind of broken out this year on the farm, and

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Speaker 2: I think these are some of the more positive stories.

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Speaker 2: Jefferson Rojas has really been back. They were aggressive with

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Speaker 2: his assignment last year. He's really handled high a differently

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Speaker 2: than he did last year. Still much younger than the

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Speaker 2: average age of competition. There somebody that you know, whether

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Speaker 2: going to have value defensively in the infield. So he's

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Speaker 2: an interesting prospect, you know, a secondary prospect in the trade.

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Speaker 2: He's a really good one. And then they've had guys

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Speaker 2: He's not going to play third base. If he could,

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Speaker 2: there's a chance he might have been up with the

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Speaker 2: first base. But you look at the underlying data, you

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Speaker 2: sort of checks all those boxes. And for prospects like

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Speaker 2: really have to hit, and he's certainly been doing that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's certainly met that challenge. And the last

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Speaker 2: staying out of the trouble zones, and using his premium

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Speaker 2: some positives here. It's a really good top ten. Outside

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Speaker 4: Jeff, you do a great job of covering the Cup

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Speaker 4: system for Baseball America, and you hit on kind of

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Speaker 4: a lot of the names I think people are curious about.

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Speaker 4: I remember in spring training Craig Counsel said kind of

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Speaker 4: as an aside, like we got Johnny Long, and we

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Speaker 4: all kind of looked at each other, like, who's Johnny Long?

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Speaker 4: It sounded like a made up guy, but he sort

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Speaker 4: of popped. Do you think they have enough to like

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Speaker 4: make a big deal Like you mentioned those kind of

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Speaker 4: do you think Jed has enough to like make Cubs

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Speaker 4: fans on July thirty first big whoa?

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Speaker 3: What what just happened here?

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Speaker 2: You know, I think the possibilities are there, especially as

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Speaker 2: guys that we talked about as more graduate. Shaw at

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Speaker 2: the time of the list release was has not graduated.

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Speaker 2: He's now graduated. Since you know, Horton obviously right on

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Speaker 2: maybe not Shaw. It wouldn't shock me if some of

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Speaker 2: when you start to factor in that whole top ten,

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Speaker 2: and then the fact that you know, from eleven to thirty,

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Speaker 2: at least in the list that I've put together working

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Speaker 2: through the system, there's like six or seven young shortstops

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Speaker 2: in a bigger deal. And I think you know, you

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Speaker 2: look at both Balasteros, it's a legitimate bat. You look

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Speaker 2: is still out on whether Bolasteros is going to stick

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Speaker 2: also seen a lot of guys. Austin Wells I never

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Speaker 2: He's turned to a good defensive catcher. Hel Rawley turned

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Speaker 2: an industry, I think just this prospect evaluators don't do

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Speaker 2: it's such a focused skill that unless you're a catcher,

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Speaker 2: a bigger name, go and see whoever it is that

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Speaker 2: are they going to be able to make a Soto

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Speaker 2: level kind of trade. No, but I don't think there's

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Speaker 2: any talents of that level that are available. And if

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Speaker 2: we go back to last year's trade deadline, there really

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Speaker 2: weren't any top one hundred prospects traded at all. Augustin

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Speaker 2: think Ramire should have been a top one hundred prospect

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Speaker 2: little nervous about them trading, especially with how the Zayre

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Speaker 2: don't think they necessarily knew what they were trading when

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Speaker 2: End if you told me in a month he ranks

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Speaker 2: i do think there's maybe more upside. There it's just

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Speaker 2: Talent even as an. Amateur he was kind of a

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Speaker 2: to a. Trade of, course it's a big enough deal

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Speaker 2: that with The Michael bush. Trade BUT i do think

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Speaker 2: kind of answering the question extremely, LONG i do think

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Speaker 2: a lot of different ways that they could sort of

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Speaker 2: from from a trading, perspective this team might be the

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Speaker 1: Lovich i'm not sure how you know if they'd be

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Speaker 1: willing to move. Him BUT i recently talked to some

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Speaker 1: BECAUSE i in exactly how you, Did BECAUSE i was,

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Speaker 1: like is this like Another hope type situation where nobody

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Speaker 3: Of him Is Ryan?

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Speaker 1: Gallagher what what have you heard about both those? Guys

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Speaker 2: Yeah and we had, he's, uh he's still on the.

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Speaker 2: List he's he's down at number twenty. Two you know

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Speaker 2: you're not hitting the ball ninety five plus miles an.

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Speaker 2: what that tells me is he's just not making enough.

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Speaker 2: i think it's another one of these, Guys and we

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Speaker 2: it's not outlier hit tool. Skills it's the reason that

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Speaker 2: mariners you see it with The. Astros they get more

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Speaker 2: GALLAGHER i think you're right to say, that you, know

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Speaker 2: Some southerlyan. Competition there's some great lineups in that, league

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Speaker 2: just kind of want to see how all of that

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Speaker 2: so you, KNOW i think With, gallagher it's one of

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Speaker 2: these guys where it's been a nice fine for, them

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Speaker 2: even if it was you, know mid major stuff on

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Speaker 2: Outs is he still you, know as efficient as he?

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Speaker 2: Was or when that degree of difficulty, rises does you

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Speaker 4: Ball, JEFF i just want to zoom out for a

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Speaker 4: second and give you a chance, TO i don't, know

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Speaker 4: maybe take a victory lap since you were. On last

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Speaker 4: For Matt. Shaw and you have great you, know background

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Speaker 4: and history with him as A massachusetts guy who played

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Speaker 4: in The. Cape what have you made of his first you,

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Speaker 4: for a long. Time how how have you Processed Matt

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Speaker 2: Leagues, YEAH i, think you, know it's important and we

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Speaker 2: people especially you, know readers and, listeners it feels like

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Speaker 2: be patient with these. Guys and there's such a huge

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Speaker 2: A now they went away from the god awful entirely

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Speaker 2: the doubt on. Strikes and there's guys that will probably

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Speaker 2: you get up to the big, leagues you haven't faced

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Speaker 2: a big league starter multiple times or had to face

432
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Speaker 2: big league starters every day for five consecutive. Days that is.

433
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Speaker 2: New it's impossible to replicate unless you're in the big.

434
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,480
Speaker 2: Leagues and sometimes guys get lucky and they face a

435
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,200
Speaker 2: bunch of bad arms and things go well and the

436
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 2: numbers go, up and then they have to adjust. Afterward

437
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,639
Speaker 2: Christian campbell's a perfect example of. That he looked like

438
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 2: AN mvp candidate for two weeks and then has very

439
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,879
Speaker 2: much fallen back down to the. Pack SO i think For,

440
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,360
Speaker 2: shaw And i'm, shocked it was just a matter of

441
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,919
Speaker 2: knowing what he had to adjust and the sort of

442
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 2: things that he had to work. On AND i always

443
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 2: felt with a guy like this and just the work

444
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 2: ethic and just the type of mentality he takes to

445
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 2: the work that he would figure it out and sort

446
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,119
Speaker 2: of get over those. Hurdles AND i think we're seeing

447
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:16,920
Speaker 2: that now since he's been called back, up as you,

448
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 2: mentioned you, know two ninety nine three one NINETEEN wrc

449
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 2: plus sixty under a sixteen percent strikeout, rate you, know

450
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,920
Speaker 2: and is providing them some you, know some additional length

451
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,919
Speaker 2: in that, lineup which is something that they. Lack so,

452
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,360
Speaker 2: YEAH i think it's just a matter of being patient

453
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 2: with guys like. This he's only twenty three years old

454
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,479
Speaker 2: and has a long road ahead of him in the big.

455
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 1: Leagues, yeah and NOW i know you're not able to

456
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 1: watch him every every.

457
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 3: Game but the defense isn't just good.

458
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Speaker 1: It i've been taken aback by how like it's plus

459
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,439
Speaker 1: he made a play the other night that in the

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Speaker 1: ninth inning on a high hopper charging bare handing and

461
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Speaker 1: firing to first THAT i was just, like, no that

462
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Speaker 1: that it's not supposed to be in his tool box

463
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:06,360
Speaker 1: and everything that we heard that, was you, know questionable at. Defense,

464
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 1: no there's no questions, anymore not in my mind What

465
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Speaker 1: i've seen from. Them let's take a quick break and

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Speaker 1: wrap up With.

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Speaker 5: Jeff if you're one of those on the go, people

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Speaker 2: There's got to be a quicker. Solution we've got one for.

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Speaker 1: Nutrition Bottled, JEFF i wanted to touch on a couple of.

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Speaker 1: Pictures bird sells hurt so he's, UH i think. IT

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Speaker 1: i heard over there WHILE i was out on the

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Speaker 1: road that maybe he'll be back In.

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Speaker 3: July But i'm curious your thoughts on.

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Speaker 1: You you touched On Jackson, wiggins but what what has

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00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 1: allowed him to kind of take this, step uh and

496
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 1: and kind of you, know it seems like he's on

497
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,880
Speaker 1: the verge of becoming like a top one hundred prospect

498
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Speaker 1: or maybe Maybe i'm wrong on.

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Speaker 3: That you can let me. Know and then With Will,

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Speaker 3: sanders what are your thoughts on?

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00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 2: Him, yeah you, KNOW i, think, uh you, know two

502
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 2: different guys here that you, know had uh some success

503
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 2: over the last couple of years big college, programs you,

504
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 2: know BOTH sec. GUYS i think the thing With wiggins

505
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 2: for me is the stuff has always been, there you,

506
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:15,439
Speaker 2: know sort of struggled over two seasons With, arkansas but

507
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 2: it's so hard with THE sec and the goofiness of

508
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 2: college bats over the last couple of, years there's just

509
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,199
Speaker 2: so many illegal, bats AND i think a lot of

510
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 2: these bats that sort of TESTS bb core aren't playing

511
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,360
Speaker 2: LIKE bb. Core, frankly if you watch any college, baseball

512
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 2: you don't understand WHAT i. Mean So eers you can

513
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 2: kind of just throw out the. Window you, know there's

514
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 2: there's no reflection of sort of. Quality there's all these

515
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 2: guys that are major league starters that have lower eras

516
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,120
Speaker 2: three years later in the major leagues that they had

517
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 2: in THE. Sec SO i think there were some of,

518
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 2: that he then Has Tommy john surgery he has to

519
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:54,880
Speaker 2: recover from. That you, know has very limited innings last,

520
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 2: year you, know eighteen total STARTS i think, about you,

521
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 2: know sixty innings across sort of lower. Level so for,

522
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 2: me this is the stuff that was always there With.

523
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 2: Wiggins he had a full normal off season for the

524
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 2: first time as a professional with professional. Coaching Though arkansas's

525
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 2: development is out honestly phenomenal for a COLLEGE i think

526
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 2: it's THAT i think we're just seeing this guy's you,

527
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 2: know sort of blossoming right like he's coming out of

528
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 2: the cocoon, now and we're seeing the stuff. Play we're

529
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 2: seeing more strike. Throwing you can tell based on how

530
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 2: he's attacking a lot of these, batters especially as you

531
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 2: See wiggins multiple times against the same, teams because that

532
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 2: happens in these. Levels they don't play the Different DOUBLE a,

533
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 2: league so he's only facing Souther lean. Tigues you've seen

534
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 2: all these teams at this point In. June he's seen

535
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 2: these guys at least once, already and you're seeing the game.

536
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 2: Planning that's all the stuff of taking the step forward

537
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 2: as a guy who just has big stuff in college

538
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 2: to a real, professional and because of when his injury,

539
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 2: happened he never had that opportunity to sort of jump

540
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 2: into the rotation At arkansas and figure those things. Out

541
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 2: SO i think it's, just you, know for the first,

542
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 2: time we're seeing a really talented pitcher who had he been,

543
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 2: healthy maybe he isn't there where The cubs get him

544
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, Three and now That i'm into, FRUITION

545
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 2: i do think he's a potential top one hundred. Prospects

546
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 2: we have Five cubs on the. List you, know he's

547
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 2: kind of got Al kantara in his. WAY i think

548
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 2: he could jump him in the next update if he

549
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 2: keeps up this. Performance isn't no reason to think he.

550
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 2: Can't he is a guy THAT i do think is

551
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 2: sort of on the cusp of the top. One as For,

552
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 2: sanders he was a guy that had huge draft pedigreek

553
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 2: sort of going into his draft eligible year and then

554
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:50,239
Speaker 2: was really bad in THE sec that drops him down

555
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,479
Speaker 2: to the fourth. Round cubs were able to scoop him

556
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 2: up for six hundred. Thousand you, know solid starts across

557
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 2: HIGH a think he made twenty two starts us year

558
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 2: If i'm not, Mistaken but big, body you, know six

559
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 2: foot six starters traits really good three pitch. Mix the

560
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 2: stuff doesn't jump off the. Page it is up a

561
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 2: little bit this, year BUT i think a lot of

562
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 2: it comes down to his ability to just locate and

563
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 2: stay out of trouble, zones which when you don't have

564
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 2: an elite Fastball Lika Jackson wiggins, has you sort of

565
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 2: have a lot less margin for error in the. Zone

566
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 2: but he's hitting those spots and he's using those good.

567
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 2: Secondaries the slider's gotten better this, year and his change

568
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 2: up is above average to borderline. Plus so you, KNOW

569
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 2: i don't think he's somebody that projects as a number

570
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 2: two or an ace or anything like. THAT i think high.

571
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 2: End if things go swimmingly over the next couple of,

572
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,239
Speaker 2: years you, know he's he's a number three. Starter but

573
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 2: more than likely it's it's a back end rotation guy

574
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 2: four or five that can give you one hundred and

575
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 2: sixty to one hundred and eighty plus innings every single,

576
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 2: season and it's really valuable in this day and, age

577
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 2: and it's another piece that might be valuable on the

578
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 2: trade market for folks as. Well so you, know neither

579
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 2: of these guys like added some new crazy pitch or

580
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 2: had this huge jump in terms of. Velocity the stuff

581
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 2: picked up a little, Bit BUT i really think a

582
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 2: lot of it is just coming down to execution and game.

583
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Speaker 3: Planning, jeff thank you for your.

584
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 4: Insight like the MORE i listen to you and, like

585
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 4: if this pitcher's clicking and he's, healthy so you just

586
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 4: got to like move those. Guys like if you have

587
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 4: a you have a good major league, team and those,

588
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 4: guys if something, clicks you have no idea how long

589
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 4: that's gonna. Last i'd imagine there're gonna be some analytically

590
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 4: inclined teams that are gonna be maybe intrigued by that

591
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 4: or some of the you, know even the scouting heavy

592
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 4: teams That jed's gonna have a lot of a lot

593
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 4: of trade chips to to bring to the, table no.

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00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 2: DOUBT i, mean teams pay millions and millions of dollars

595
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 2: for number, four number five, starters AND i think people

596
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 2: kind of forget that you a guy that can come

597
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 2: right in and give you some. Innings there's value to.

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00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 2: THAT i, MEAN i think we've kind of seen The

599
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 2: athletics build a little bit that, way not that they've

600
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 2: had a ton of, success but we are starting to

601
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 2: see some signs that that team's on the come up.

602
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 2: Too so you, KNOW i think there's other teams that

603
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 2: can look to that and say going out and getting you,

604
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 2: know sort of this cash and building you, know up

605
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 2: this bank of starters and guys that can provide innings

606
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 2: eight to nine. Guys you, know over the course of a.

607
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 2: Season to get five, starters you probably need nine of

608
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 2: them in your. System otherwise you're going to be looking

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00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 2: for outside, helping no.

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Speaker 1: Doubt, jeff thanks so much for joining. Us really appreciate.

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Speaker 1: It we'll We'll i'm sure we'll talk to you again

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Speaker 1: soon whenever the lists are, updated whether it's offseason or spring, training,

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Speaker 1: whenever whenever it, is we'll have you back on and

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Speaker 1: Talk cubs.

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Speaker 3: Prospect always.

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Speaker 2: Fun appreciate, it, absolutely talk to you guys In thanks,

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