Speaker 1: We're from Gwenette County. Of course, our teacher is the
Speaker 1: hot man.
Speaker 2: We're from Gwennette County. Of course we're a dictadopia. We're
Speaker 2: from Grunette County.
Speaker 1: Of course, we got prescribed methadone in tenth grade.
Speaker 2: We live, we're from we're from We're from Gwennette County.
Speaker 2: Of course we're abusing our prescription. Adderall. We're from Gruennett County.
Speaker 1: You said your mom's still in the hospital road, Can
Speaker 1: I come over? Oh my god, Okay, we're from Gruenett County.
Speaker 1: Where's the medicine cabinet?
Speaker 2: Hello, beauty translated listeners and anyone anyone from Gwenette County. Hello,
Speaker 2: shout out to the Gwenett County listeners. Where they just
Speaker 2: shot a dude for shoplifting.
Speaker 1: Yes, I saw that. I saw that on the heat
Speaker 1: at work. Yeah, they went on a they chased him.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what did he steal?
Speaker 2: What did you steal? Yeah? No, it's awesome like that.
Speaker 1: Every time, like I see like a story from Gwinnette County,
Speaker 1: it's it's always like it's always like teenager arrested for
Speaker 1: throwing puppies in a river, or like yeah, or like
Speaker 1: Gwinnette County PD shoots man sixty seven times for.
Speaker 2: Literally, right a pack of gum or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for like shoplifting from a pack sun that's closing,
Speaker 1: that's like, yeah, no, it's it's awesome.
Speaker 2: Is your favorite place, baby?
Speaker 1: I think I think it should make a lot of
Speaker 1: sense that we come from there, you know, it should.
Speaker 2: You know, it should also make a lot of sense
Speaker 2: to people that I didn't finish high school. Yeah, because
Speaker 2: you know, this is where people come to listen to irreverent, funny, sexy,
Speaker 2: flooding hot bitches with cool opinions that make cool opinions.
Speaker 2: They might not be correct, Yeah, they might not be
Speaker 2: correct opinions.
Speaker 1: They might not have any basis in fact or reality
Speaker 1: or reality, but they're cool opinions. They're cool opinions. Yeah. So,
Speaker 1: welcome to another episode of Beauty Translated.
Speaker 2: Y'all so excited. Well, I'll be honest, Janie and I
Speaker 2: haven't recorded this episode yet, so I don't actually know
Speaker 2: what's in store for us yet.
Speaker 1: But we're excited. But we're excited. We're excited. We're kind
Speaker 1: of having a weird day. We're kind of doing stuff
Speaker 1: out of like chronological we're having another Slaughterhouse five days,
Speaker 1: another Slaughterhouse five it's.
Speaker 2: Very slaughterhouse five vibes. It's giving slaughder house. Yeah. Well, Jane,
Speaker 2: do you want to talk a little bit about who
Speaker 2: we've o the pod today?
Speaker 1: Yeah, a friend of the show, friends of many shows
Speaker 1: in fact, and host of her own show, Western Kabuki
Speaker 1: Period where they discuss you know, culture politics, you know,
Speaker 1: basically kind of kabuki theater. Yeah, a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of what we like and what were a lot
Speaker 1: of it touches on a lot of our personal predilections
Speaker 1: as well, and so yeah, we're very pleased to have
Speaker 1: Juniper join us, you know, putting person beer person at
Speaker 1: can't ever Die. She goes by many aliases, and that's because,
Speaker 1: as we'll probably get into, she's been banned from Twitter
Speaker 1: a lot.
Speaker 2: But that's, you know, that's what hot girls do.
Speaker 1: We persevere, we slay, and we are going to have
Speaker 1: a beautiful, wonderful conversation about the irreverency of you know,
Speaker 1: the modern state of the Internet, which at one point
Speaker 1: was normal and now is filled with people like me
Speaker 1: and Carmen and Juniper.
Speaker 2: So and I understand, Janie, this is our Twitter episode.
Speaker 1: This is the one the fans have been waiting for.
Speaker 1: This is this is the Twitter episode. We're going to
Speaker 1: dive into the psychology of tweeters, the ones that tweet,
Speaker 1: the ones that read, the ones that lurk, the ones
Speaker 1: that get verified, the ones that don't. And the man
Speaker 1: behind the curtain that owns it all, who's sort of
Speaker 1: a modern day Baron Harkonen from the un and his
Speaker 1: name escapes me now, but I'm sure we'll get into
Speaker 1: all that in our Twitter episode with Juniper.
Speaker 2: So, without further ado, here we go with Jennifer. Baby,
Speaker 2: why don't we introduce our guests, Janie, we have to
Speaker 2: date with us, one of your friends, take it away.
Speaker 1: Yeah, another another friend of the show, another fellow podcaster,
Speaker 1: Jennifer from Western Kabuki.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3: I'm so happy to be here. Thank you for inviting me. Yes,
Speaker 3: this is such a joy.
Speaker 1: I liked how you asked me before I recorded on
Speaker 1: your show, how would you like to be introduced? And
Speaker 1: I meant to do that for you. Yeah, So I
Speaker 1: guess I can't do that now. No, I guess you
Speaker 1: got to go for it.
Speaker 3: That's perfect. No, you did it perfectly. No, I like
Speaker 3: I liked your reaction on ours. What did Caleb say, like, oh,
Speaker 3: like a ship poster and you were like no, you
Speaker 3: were like repulsed. You were like repulsed by that was
Speaker 3: it was so good funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not gonna lie, like I don't take it
Speaker 1: as like an insult. I do kind of like I
Speaker 1: don't know, like I've definitely like used Twitter and TikTok
Speaker 1: and like all these things to like kind of build
Speaker 1: a platform. But yeah, I like, I like being funny,
Speaker 1: and I like shit posting us here like I do,
Speaker 1: but I like ruffling people's feathers and YadA YadA.
Speaker 2: But I do kind of see this.
Speaker 1: All just like as a means to an end, to
Speaker 1: get people like aware of like my art, the things
Speaker 1: that I actually care. The thing is like I spend
Speaker 1: like thousands of hours like making music, performing stuff like that,
Speaker 1: and I spend like literally zero point two seconds thinking
Speaker 1: of trip. So you know, it's just like to be
Speaker 1: called a shit poster. I'm like, I mean, I guess
Speaker 1: it's accurate, but.
Speaker 3: No, I totally I absolutely know where you're coming from there. Yeah,
Speaker 3: there was there's just like because we've had that reaction
Speaker 3: before too, and it's like, yeah, I know, like so
Speaker 3: many people that we try to have on do like
Speaker 3: all sorts of like art and like I love like
Speaker 3: the thing that I love about Twitter, specifically transwitters, like
Speaker 3: or I'm doing air quotes with trans Twitter because that's
Speaker 3: like such a nebulous like phrase. Yes, but but but
Speaker 3: like so many now oh especially not yeah, but like
Speaker 3: so many trans people do like our artists or have
Speaker 3: like creative hobbies and it's I just love that. That's
Speaker 3: like my favorite type of shit about found.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm just I'm happy to be talentless and connected,
Speaker 2: you know, talentless and well connected. There's a real job
Speaker 2: I do, like you do, produce. I actually wanted to say, like,
Speaker 2: when you guys are listening to this on Wednesday, this
Speaker 2: episode comes out, I will be on a film set.
Speaker 2: I signed up to be the production assistant. And I
Speaker 2: looked at the call sheet just now and I told
Speaker 2: them in some meetings that I like have some audio
Speaker 2: experience and I know, like a little bit about audio
Speaker 2: and blah blah blah blah blah. Well now I'm on
Speaker 2: the call sheet as sound and I'm like this is
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is to be like a fucking I
Speaker 2: Love Lucy episode tomorrow, so good luck. Oh my god.
Speaker 3: Yeah no, you're gonna kill it. Just pretend like you
Speaker 3: know what you're doing.
Speaker 2: Turn around and like google everything really quick, like you. Yeah,
Speaker 2: sound is pretty. I mean, can you hear hello? How
Speaker 2: hard can it be? Sorry? So uh yeah, I guess
Speaker 2: let's let's let's try. Let's try to focus on a
Speaker 2: little bit I have I wanted to say about ship posting.
Speaker 2: I've wanted to have an episode about ship posting for
Speaker 2: a while. So I'm happy you're here. I know that
Speaker 2: that is not all in an all encompassing term as
Speaker 2: to describe who you are, but I'm personally I love
Speaker 2: ship posting. I coined the on my Instagram. I was
Speaker 2: so proud the day I came up with it. My
Speaker 2: bio forever now is just ship posting from the mother
Speaker 2: toilet and increditory know what they're saying it for when
Speaker 2: they see that bio anyway.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, posting. Posting is an art form like that.
Speaker 3: It is an art form.
Speaker 2: Yeah it's not. It's not really a real work.
Speaker 1: A valuable art form in the like well in the
Speaker 1: sense that like I think hear me out, I think
Speaker 1: that like a really good movie or a really good
Speaker 1: like song or album can like change your perspective on things,
Speaker 1: or really good book you know, Like that's art that
Speaker 1: I think, like really like you know, can genuinely make
Speaker 1: a difference. Like you know, people will roll their eyes
Speaker 1: if someone's like, yeah, dude, that that three eleven album
Speaker 1: in my.
Speaker 2: Life, but like you know, for someone it did, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, and that.
Speaker 1: Is that is something I don't think posting uh is
Speaker 1: like you know, having the same kind of impact.
Speaker 3: It's had like a different okay, but hear me out,
Speaker 3: it's it has a different impact. I've been thinking about
Speaker 3: Putin has opened the world's the oldest vault, like that phrase.
Speaker 2: Like I am like so blad all right.
Speaker 3: Like like it's a it's a it's it's a different
Speaker 3: kind of art because like it's it's not that it
Speaker 3: changes your life, but it just rewires your brain in
Speaker 3: like a terminally unwell way, you know.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I'm so glad. I want to start here
Speaker 1: because yeah, this is our Twitter episode.
Speaker 2: We want.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about Twitter. I want to talk
Speaker 1: about the characters, the side plots, and.
Speaker 2: Just so I don't have a Twitter. So I am
Speaker 2: like going and blind here.
Speaker 1: Yes, we're going to be introducing a lot of not
Speaker 1: biblical terms, and there is a legendary, a legendary Twitter person,
Speaker 1: very beloved and uh we love you too. You're very
Speaker 1: early follow for me when I first made my account.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Yeah, No, you're a you're a old homie,
Speaker 3: You're you're an old one.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. I said the same thing to Vera Drew too.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, like you've I've always been one
Speaker 1: of your shooters and she was like, I've never heard.
Speaker 3: She was like, that's so funny because I said, like,
Speaker 3: I just said that same phrase like oh this this
Speaker 3: person has shooters to someone in real life recently and
Speaker 3: they're like, wait, what are you talking about?
Speaker 2: Like it's so I love.
Speaker 3: I love using that like type of for people who
Speaker 3: are just yeah, like they're like normal, they don't have
Speaker 3: these brainworms.
Speaker 2: Well it's also it's also kind of like a wrap
Speaker 2: like yeah, that's that's true. That's true, which.
Speaker 1: Is funny because I mean a lot of like kind
Speaker 1: of like Twitter Lingo's just stuff that's like either downstream
Speaker 1: from like you know, like black art or down downstream
Speaker 1: from like queer arts.
Speaker 2: For sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot of things in general though, But yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm so glad you because I have
Speaker 1: a series of notes here, had a series of like
Speaker 1: people that I wanted to touch on and concepts, characters, things,
Speaker 1: and yeah, one of the first ones to be and
Speaker 1: probably the most recent one, which is actually kind of
Speaker 1: a fallout of TikTok from what I'm I'm understood, Juniper,
Speaker 1: do you want to go ahead and tell us about
Speaker 1: the world's oldest.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so, okay, a TikTok user, this is this is
Speaker 3: just what I understand. I'm not a TikTok user, but
Speaker 3: I just saw this post where this person says that
Speaker 3: Putin has opened the oldest Vault and revealed biblical old
Speaker 3: biblical images of like historical figures, like you know, like
Speaker 3: like all the like the Disciples of Christ, Jesus, and
Speaker 3: they're all like these images that were in the Oldest
Speaker 3: Vault were all they were all black, which like, okay,
Speaker 3: on its face, they probably like they of course were
Speaker 3: like not white, like like historical figures in Christian times
Speaker 3: were definitely like black and brown, and like they're not white.
Speaker 3: But just just the phrase Putin opened the Oldest Vault
Speaker 3: is just like there's just something about it. It's just
Speaker 3: it's in my brain forever now, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I also the same way, the same there's a very
Speaker 1: similar phrase. A very recent thing that had a similar
Speaker 1: effect on me was the Kamala Harris I think you
Speaker 1: just fell out of the coconut tree where literally, like
Speaker 1: I remember that day, I was like hungover and I
Speaker 1: was at work and I was like walking away from
Speaker 1: tables because I kept thinking like, oh, you.
Speaker 2: Haven't she taken a couple of times.
Speaker 1: Now you would think that because that's the way it
Speaker 1: lives inside your brain.
Speaker 2: But no, that was one clip.
Speaker 1: Then then all day, like every I just wanted to
Speaker 1: repurpose that phrase in everything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was like because like it was that day
Speaker 3: when when like that that same period when the and
Speaker 3: it's gone around before. But her weird version of singing
Speaker 3: the Wheels on the Bush so like she goes like
Speaker 3: for free people who don't know like I, So okay
Speaker 3: for context, I still like listening to her version of
Speaker 3: the Wheels on the Bus has destroyed my previous understanding
Speaker 3: of that song. I still don't remember how it's supposed
Speaker 3: to sound. But this is how Kamala sings it and
Speaker 3: this is the only way I know it now is
Speaker 3: the wheels on the bus go round and round. And
Speaker 3: then she does like she does like a laugh, She
Speaker 3: like hysterically laughs.
Speaker 1: It is so funny to like use that and get
Speaker 1: the melody and then give the entire world.
Speaker 2: This like incorrect Mandela.
Speaker 3: She has permanently rewired how I understand that song. I
Speaker 3: don't know the normal way.
Speaker 2: I really don't snack that memory.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is interesting because you are you are
Speaker 1: kind of convincing me of your points a little bit
Speaker 1: that maybe I'm still maybe not convinced this useful art,
Speaker 1: But there kind of is something artistic to being able
Speaker 1: to like implant like inception things in people's brains that
Speaker 1: they just like I can't fucking get out. Like Yeah,
Speaker 1: all day I was thinking about like oldest What the
Speaker 1: fuck the oldest fault faults are?
Speaker 3: How do you quantify qualify? How do you qualify which
Speaker 3: vault is the oldest? You?
Speaker 2: Where are all the fault are they all? Wat? I
Speaker 2: just don't understand where he comes in.
Speaker 1: He they cut the vault in half and to see
Speaker 1: how old the fault was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just the oldest vault so is that like
Speaker 2: older than the Pyramids, like I would have to assume.
Speaker 1: So right, yeah, it's the oldest vault because our vaults
Speaker 1: have a fault and that have been open. This is
Speaker 1: the oldest of wide open.
Speaker 2: The vault. Fuck. Oh now that's gonna be in my
Speaker 2: brain forever. So there there.
Speaker 1: There's another one that I've written down here, and Carmen,
Speaker 1: I'm curious if you're familiar with this phrase, but this
Speaker 1: is one that's like through my brain a lot. Have
Speaker 1: you heard the phrase Charlie Brown had hose? I want
Speaker 1: to clarify for audiences, we did not pre record this.
Speaker 1: This is just me and Juniper's mind melded right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, do you care to explain Charlie Brown head hose.
Speaker 3: So, So, from my understanding of this one, this one
Speaker 3: is basically the principle behind this one is how any
Speaker 3: social media, but especially Twitter, I feel like and maybe TikTok,
Speaker 3: people will just like say whatever, They'll just say bullshit,
Speaker 3: just make shit up. So somebody posted Charlie Brown has hose,
Speaker 3: and someone yeah yeah, and someone quotes sweet it's saying
Speaker 3: like you guys just make up anything or something like that.
Speaker 3: Like someone was like you guys just say any bullshit.
Speaker 3: So now whenever someone's just like saying insane bullshit, some
Speaker 3: people will like, and I've done this before, will quote
Speaker 3: tweet like like let's say the world's oldest ball, like
Speaker 3: a quote tweet variant, and that would just be like
Speaker 3: Charlie Brown had hose because people just say, you, like,
Speaker 3: whatever bullshit. It's just like a phrase to represent just
Speaker 3: how insane some things that people will say.
Speaker 2: Some of this kind of like trickles down. I feel
Speaker 2: like into my little realm of Instagram because I feel
Speaker 2: like I do see some things like me when I
Speaker 2: lie or like I feel like that has had to
Speaker 2: come from Twitter.
Speaker 1: H I mean so much of Instagram, Like there's so
Speaker 1: many like meme pages on Instagram that are just screenshotting tweets,
Speaker 1: And I mean, this is another funny thing, Juniper.
Speaker 2: I'm very curious if you've experienced this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, has anyone ever like sent you something from
Speaker 1: like another social media up and you've been like, oh,
Speaker 1: I hate that person.
Speaker 2: They've blocked me.
Speaker 1: You know, It's like I don't know how even like
Speaker 1: it's it feels like crazy, like knowing the lore behind
Speaker 1: an account of that is just posting like the dumbest
Speaker 1: thing ever.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, It's like either that or it's like, oh, that's
Speaker 3: my mutual like they're home.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's my that's two films, two film cell
Speaker 1: too Furious.
Speaker 3: No, I've I've sadly, I hate to admit it, but
Speaker 3: I have sadly experienced both of those a lot of
Speaker 3: a lot of the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like over the years.
Speaker 3: Yeah but no, that's like part of why I eventually
Speaker 3: came to Twitter in the first place is because I
Speaker 3: used to be and this is very shameful to admit,
Speaker 3: I used to be like a Facebook politics poster, like
Speaker 3: back in the in like twenty fifteen, like in the
Speaker 3: Bernie twenty sixteen, I would like post on Facebook.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like I wasn't in communities. I would just like.
Speaker 3: Annoy my friends and family and like acquaintances, and they
Speaker 3: hated it.
Speaker 2: I was so annoying. I was probably not person fifteen,
Speaker 2: but like a training extra annoying and like it's like,
Speaker 2: oh here comes that trainy posting her Bernie sandersh it again,
Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: That that reminds me of another very niche brain worm
Speaker 1: that I've I've had in my head for a long time.
Speaker 1: That's like every Thanksgiving usually around that time, I see
Speaker 1: this tweet. But someone tweeted something like, this is the
Speaker 1: year I finally convinced my granddad to vote for Bernie Sanders.
Speaker 1: This year I finally convinced him about socially its final.
Speaker 2: This is how Bernie will still win.
Speaker 3: This is how going to win that time.
Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, here's here's how Bernie. Here's how Warren. And
Speaker 2: that's how I feel about people.
Speaker 1: Okay, sorry to get okay, here's how my stroke is
Speaker 1: still second.
Speaker 2: People are gonna get mad. That's how I feel. When
Speaker 2: people are talking about Joe Biden winning this election. I'm like,
Speaker 2: baby's scrapped. Okay, okay, like he's done, Like, yeah, I do.
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 3: Just love how this election is the same as the
Speaker 3: last election, but they're just older and worse, like both.
Speaker 2: Don't die by October.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, yeah, I feel like there's gotta be this,
Speaker 1: like like there's probably so many people that like voted
Speaker 1: for the first time and might have like in another
Speaker 1: world like have been like politically engaged from that, but
Speaker 1: now it's like we already did this and you didn't.
Speaker 1: I already fucking voted for Joe Biden. I'll have to
Speaker 1: do it again.
Speaker 3: This is going to be a horrible election for people
Speaker 3: who have dementia. They're gonna be like wait, like wait,
Speaker 3: I already voted. I voted already.
Speaker 2: I don't get any shot. Yeah. No, people will literally
Speaker 2: stuck in like twenty.
Speaker 1: Twenty, like, yeah, I can relate on the Facebook thing
Speaker 1: I used to I actually still am like is set
Speaker 1: as a moderator on a Bernie campaign thing that someone
Speaker 1: like from my hometown like invited me to.
Speaker 2: That's amazing.
Speaker 1: I stopped using it because I was posting a bunch
Speaker 1: of memes like just like shit posting this like literally yeah,
Speaker 1: and because my friend would post the more political stuff,
Speaker 1: I would post the more kind of funny stuff to
Speaker 1: get like shared around do like agi prop that way, And.
Speaker 2: I shared a meme.
Speaker 1: I shared the meme that was like fuck Joe Biden,
Speaker 1: all my homies hate Joe Biden. And a bunch of
Speaker 1: people like found that post and accused me of being
Speaker 1: a Russian wow, because they were like, no one would
Speaker 1: use the term homie any war.
Speaker 3: What No, No, I've said it twice this episode already.
Speaker 3: Unless maybe I'm Russian as well. I guess maybe I'm
Speaker 3: a Russian.
Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, any members of the homie collective exactly.
Speaker 3: I was going to say, you had the homie on
Speaker 3: like you had the Home.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, he's the homie. Absolutely, he's the.
Speaker 3: Home Marcos Russian. No, No, I don't I think he's
Speaker 3: I think he's Hispanic. Yeah, I think he's Hispanic. I
Speaker 3: think he's Latino.
Speaker 2: He could be the first Mexican Russian.
Speaker 3: He's kind of Greek coded, like kind of how Stavros like,
Speaker 3: he's kind of Stavros a little bit, dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, my brain with something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wanted I wanted to ask you a little like, so,
Speaker 1: like when did you like joined what?
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, so I after the twenty sixteen election, I
Speaker 3: kind of stopped using Facebook for politics, and then I
Speaker 3: even worse, even worse, Oh my god, no, even worse.
Speaker 4: Read it.
Speaker 2: I was on it. I was.
Speaker 3: I was on Reddit from like twenty seventeen to twenty nineteen,
Speaker 3: and I was mostly like in the politics read it
Speaker 3: and I was on the Chapel trap House subreddit. And
Speaker 3: then after the Chapel trap House reddit, Yeah, I got suspended.
Speaker 3: I was like, you know what, half the posts I
Speaker 3: consumed were just screenshots of Twitter. I'm going to go
Speaker 3: to Twitter, which is where I'm still to this day,
Speaker 3: like five years later. So yeah, So like every like
Speaker 3: posting on every other website was just downstream of Twitter,
Speaker 3: is what I realized, is which is why I moved
Speaker 3: to Twitter.
Speaker 2: Wow, yeah it is.
Speaker 1: And that's what I was saying, Like all the ship
Speaker 1: on Instagram, like all the meme pages, like all of
Speaker 1: it is just downstream from like weird fucking transaction and
Speaker 1: even post Baron Harkin and taking over you know, we're
Speaker 1: all still there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of fascinating to me because we all
Speaker 1: went through this phase of like, oh this is it
Speaker 1: this everyone in Twitter, and I have to Juniper, are
Speaker 1: you on Blue Sky?
Speaker 2: I am. I don't like super actively use it.
Speaker 3: I like maybe log on like once a day to
Speaker 3: make a single post and that's like about it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's like the only thing I do with it.
Speaker 1: If y'all think I should post on Twitter, Like Blue
Speaker 1: Sky literally is the place that I just like say,
Speaker 1: like literally, whatever, I'm embarrassed.
Speaker 2: I made a thread in like the first like like
Speaker 2: we all did. Don't worry. We all did. Don't worry.
Speaker 2: We had.
Speaker 3: We had hopes for like a day I could do that,
Speaker 3: and then I I found out that it didn't have
Speaker 3: the juice because I made a post on Threads that
Speaker 3: was like I am in the Arby's bathroom doing hard
Speaker 3: drugs and I got suspended. So I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: if I can't, if you can't post about doing hard
Speaker 3: drugs in an Arby's, it's over.
Speaker 2: It's over.
Speaker 3: Wow, Oh my god, that's it's literally, yeah.
Speaker 1: That is you know that's crazy, And yeah, I'll be honest, Carmen.
Speaker 2: Until you said that, I forgot. Yeah, yeah, like I said, get.
Speaker 2: The only reason I haven't forgot about it is because
Speaker 2: when you go on Instagram, they're like, see what's happening
Speaker 2: on threads and it's like the most crazy zionis like
Speaker 2: transphobic you ever seen in your life. Yes, I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: they're like baiting me to like click to read more. No, yes,
Speaker 2: they know what they're doing.
Speaker 1: They're literally like they're trying to rage bait you rage
Speaker 1: bab They'll show you like an insane thing so that
Speaker 1: you'll want to like real solve threads so you can
Speaker 1: yell at this person. I'll be honest, It's it is
Speaker 1: sometimes almost worked on me, Like I am bat Petties.
Speaker 3: Rage is a powerful, like in raging people powerful and
Speaker 3: I really.
Speaker 2: Like the social media people have like figured that out.
Speaker 2: The social media powers you have fed out and they
Speaker 2: are like, yeah, where are just little rage gerbils and
Speaker 2: a hamster will Well hamster. And that's why you have
Speaker 2: to like resist that urge.
Speaker 3: That's like, that's why I like mostly try to just
Speaker 3: hang out, make jokes fun. The my, my principle to
Speaker 3: social media is just to hang out.
Speaker 2: You just hang out a good time, have a good time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: cracks and joke. You're the world on there. You're not
Speaker 2: changing limes, You're not.
Speaker 3: I learned that when Bernie lost twice. I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: this ship, this ship. We can't do it on Twitter.
Speaker 3: You can, we cannot do it here.
Speaker 1: You're like, but I memed, so yeah, that's part of
Speaker 1: the reason why I was like, like I I've heard
Speaker 1: people say, like I've literally heard people in real life
Speaker 1: say like, yeah, like Trump memed his way into the
Speaker 1: election into the president.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, there was no me magic meme.
Speaker 3: Magic is not real. Shut up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well Trump is another good kind of launching
Speaker 1: off point to like Twitter characters.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, there's so many.
Speaker 1: And Trump was one of the He's back then, I legitimate,
Speaker 1: I legitimately think there's an argument to be made. And
Speaker 1: I just want to clarify for our listeners who might
Speaker 1: be confused. I am not saying this as an endorsement
Speaker 1: of Trump or his politics.
Speaker 2: I think he's bad. I think he should be pulled
Speaker 2: apart by hounds, and that would be it would be amazing.
Speaker 1: But there's a legitimate argument that Trump is like the
Speaker 1: best poster of share. I'm sorry, serious, Share is my
Speaker 1: favorite poster.
Speaker 2: No, you come on, No, you haven't.
Speaker 3: Seen some of Trump's tweets. If you if you think
Speaker 3: that there's some there's some heat. Oh my god, Trump
Speaker 3: has some heat.
Speaker 2: Is he like still up to it? He's not tweeting though.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he posted his Mudge mugshot and he kind of
Speaker 3: dipped again, Like what's what? Like, what are some of
Speaker 3: the iconic ones that he's he's had the diet coke one.
Speaker 3: I know it's pretty iconic.
Speaker 1: I'm googling right now. I don't know how good these
Speaker 1: are gonna be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the salad's good. The taco salad person, Yeah, No,
Speaker 2: you're right.
Speaker 3: One of his mast treats is, I have never seen
Speaker 3: a thin person drinking diet coke.
Speaker 2: That is so gay. That is a caddy that's like
Speaker 2: caddy boy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is another good one. Barney Frank looked disgusting nipples,
Speaker 3: nipples protruding and his blue shirt before Congress, very very disrespectful.
Speaker 3: Say he is a sassy game. He said, yeah, oh,
Speaker 3: this is another fucking golden one.
Speaker 2: One of it.
Speaker 3: I think maybe his magnifoldus best line in the Elizabeth
Speaker 3: Warren Beer catastrophe is to her husband, shit, sorry, okay,
Speaker 3: thank you for being here. I'm glad you're here. That's
Speaker 3: the end of the quote, and then he continues, it's
Speaker 3: their house. He's supposed to be there. He's supposed to
Speaker 3: be there.
Speaker 2: Why would you did he there?
Speaker 1: He has a point, I've got I've got one right
Speaker 1: here that I do really like a lot. Robert Pattinson
Speaker 1: should not take back christ She cheated on.
Speaker 2: Him like a dog and will do it again. Just watch.
Speaker 2: He can do much better.
Speaker 3: And not only is there that one, but he's tweeted
Speaker 3: about that specific relationship like over ten times, if I
Speaker 3: remember correctly, Like he was really invested in Robert Pattinson
Speaker 3: and Kristen Stewart's relationship at the time.
Speaker 2: I think Robert Pattinson or something.
Speaker 1: I have a Cora posts in front of me with
Speaker 1: all of his like Robert Pattinson. It really is so paggy,
Speaker 1: Like this is like straight up like a faggy way
Speaker 1: of talking.
Speaker 3: No, Like I genuinely like, I'm not even being ironic,
Speaker 3: no irony here. I think he if he was a
Speaker 3: morning talk show host instead of running for president, he
Speaker 3: would be so much happier. He just wants to be
Speaker 3: like the more Good Morning America host and talk about
Speaker 3: like the goss every day. He just wants the celebrity guys.
Speaker 2: And I think we should let him do it. I
Speaker 2: I do too. He's so funny. He's so funny.
Speaker 1: I can't remember who said this, but yeah they're They're
Speaker 1: like it was I am stealing this take from someone else,
Speaker 1: but like yeah, saying like yeah, just let him like
Speaker 1: pretend to be the president and give him give him
Speaker 1: a show call that president says or whatever, and it's
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, yeah, you guys two secret servicemen that
Speaker 1: like have to follow him for life now like behind
Speaker 1: him and they're just you know, uh, and they have
Speaker 1: like a mock up they have their filming in the
Speaker 1: House of Card Set and yeah, they've still got the
Speaker 1: House of Card Set, right. Yeah, it would be way
Speaker 1: more watched than fucking anything Tucker Carlson's doing right now.
Speaker 2: Oh. Absolutely.
Speaker 3: You you brought this up before, we like earlier today
Speaker 3: Janey and in DMS. But the ninety seven year old
Speaker 3: soda shop, that's that's been one of my favorite ones.
Speaker 2: This this like last year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, do you wanna do you want to explain
Speaker 3: that one?
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, I would love to so I I.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this this kind of goes back into the more
Speaker 1: brain worms earworms kind of thing we were talking about
Speaker 1: at the beginning. But yeah, one of my favorite tweets
Speaker 1: that I see go around every once in a while
Speaker 1: is this tweet that says, and I'm not reading this,
Speaker 1: but I know it says that like pretty much verbatim,
Speaker 1: because this ninety seven year old soda shop still makes
Speaker 1: their soda the old fashioned way.
Speaker 2: And it's like.
Speaker 1: A video that's like of like a soda jerk I
Speaker 1: think they're called, Yeah, and he's like squeezing like some
Speaker 1: like cola syrup and then like like pouring like so.
Speaker 2: Alter over it.
Speaker 1: And this one's very interesting to me because it is
Speaker 1: very like indicative of kind of where we're at as
Speaker 1: an online community, especially on Twitter, where like we have
Speaker 1: reached like I think everyone except everyone with like a
Speaker 1: working brain goes like this is insane, Like the way
Speaker 1: this website works is so fucking stupid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah that.
Speaker 1: Once a fucking week, this same video goes around and
Speaker 1: people are so impressed that it's like achieve this like
Speaker 1: like another level of like meta irony where people will
Speaker 1: just like retweet the video like not even like meme
Speaker 1: against it, Like people just retweet the video and be
Speaker 1: like I'm contemplating suicide guys, and just say like deep
Speaker 1: things that are like on their minds. And yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like fascinating to me.
Speaker 3: The like meta memification, Like I hate saying it this way,
Speaker 3: but the meta memification of like those type of posts,
Speaker 3: because there's a lot of those like that. This is
Speaker 3: Apple's best feature. Is another one that's like kind of
Speaker 3: been like meta mem ifi or like like I don't
Speaker 3: know what you call that, like irony, like post irony,
Speaker 3: sort of like memed I don't know.
Speaker 1: I hate to invoke this, but it reminds me of
Speaker 1: the God. This is so not in the Bible. It
Speaker 1: reminds me of the video that I Dubs made about
Speaker 1: Sam Hyde where I don't know if you guys have
Speaker 1: any what I'm talking about, but he made this kind of.
Speaker 2: Oh no doing that.
Speaker 1: Uh, don't don't worry, kit, I'm very serious, don't worry.
Speaker 1: But he explains like irony on like kind of like
Speaker 1: a circle and kind of like like normal irony being
Speaker 1: like something like sarcasm, I guess, and then like meta
Speaker 1: irony being like saying something serious but you mean it,
Speaker 1: but it's like still funny because it's not that serious.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's a really hard phenomena to describe. It's
Speaker 3: probably not like a new phenomena, but it's like happening
Speaker 3: on Twitter at like an exponential rate. And I just
Speaker 3: in the chat sent one of my favorites. And it's
Speaker 3: like kind of a double whammy here because you've seen
Speaker 3: like the mud Men, the mud Men on the like
Speaker 3: oil rig video.
Speaker 2: I was just looking for that if you have Oh yes,
Speaker 2: I love this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, nice so to give me on the old
Speaker 3: still s the old fashion. Yeah, so there's like different
Speaker 3: like edits of it, like it's like a green pitch
Speaker 3: like tinted version of it, and it's like, yeah, glorp, I.
Speaker 2: Don't know fucking know.
Speaker 3: And that's like the quote tweet of the like mud
Speaker 3: Men video where it's like slime field workers of Venus,
Speaker 3: they only get paid sixty seven credits a solar cycle.
Speaker 3: You didn't realize the price that's paid to get the
Speaker 3: coolant for your jingle wat and spidooper devices.
Speaker 2: Yep. And I feel like we're.
Speaker 3: Going out of order because like anyone who just like
Speaker 3: listened to me say mud men and then read that
Speaker 3: probably has no fucking ideas. And I don't know, have
Speaker 3: you ever dreamed of these men?
Speaker 2: I've just seen this video and I thought, wow, that's
Speaker 2: pretty fucking sexy.
Speaker 1: You know, let's try to explain, like I have personally
Speaker 1: nicknamed this video the diary if you go to if
Speaker 1: you go to my Twitter and search diarrhea Factory. I've
Speaker 1: mentioned it a handful of times because there's this video
Speaker 1: for our listeners who cannot see the mud Men video
Speaker 1: of these men doing some sort of like oil drilling
Speaker 1: as something. I'm I'm gonna be honest, I have no
Speaker 1: fucking idea what they're doing.
Speaker 2: Cracking, that's what that's what we're tracking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're fracking and every so often, like
Speaker 1: literally like once a month, if not more.
Speaker 2: A right wing account that's named.
Speaker 1: Like historic Tutor or like traditional Pass like something like.
Speaker 2: That, some sort of like trad account.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, well we'll post this video and be like,
Speaker 1: is there anything more difficult than this? Can you imagine
Speaker 1: a woman doing this? And it's it's this just nonsensical
Speaker 1: video of men that are really dirty, and from what
Speaker 1: I do know, I still don't know what they're doing.
Speaker 1: But there is a woman that like quote tweeted it
Speaker 1: and was like, yes, I do this every day. I
Speaker 1: don't get near as dirty or do as many OSHA violates.
Speaker 3: So yea, they don't have like any protective gear on
Speaker 3: in this video. They're breaking all all the rules in
Speaker 3: the book. Yes you know, yeah, because.
Speaker 2: That's is gay to not want to die at work?
Speaker 1: Is it gay to work? And the to not want
Speaker 1: to work at the diarrhea factory?
Speaker 3: It is in fact gay to follow ocean. I will
Speaker 3: say that it is gay to do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. See that's another Twitter one that I'm very familiar with,
Speaker 2: because yeah, asking myself how many different things could be gay? Oh,
Speaker 2: the fellas, I think I became very, very very this
Speaker 2: is like, this is a deep cut. This has thrown
Speaker 2: it back. But y'all remember the whole It was a
Speaker 2: maybe it was a collection of Facebook statuses. I don't know,
Speaker 2: but the smell of his colon when he walks by,
Speaker 2: the smell of his colon. God, that collection of no
Speaker 2: is that supposed to be It's like this whole series
Speaker 2: of like women tweeting about how much they love the
Speaker 2: smell of a man's colen. And there's they all don't
Speaker 2: know how to spell the word cologne, and that's such joke. Oh,
Speaker 2: that's amazing. Millennia.
Speaker 3: I feel like, yeah, I'm like kind of a millennial.
Speaker 3: I'm like right on the cusp. I'm like, yeah, I
Speaker 3: can appreciate some of them. Yeah, no, I'm twenty eight.
Speaker 3: I'm like red at the tail ENNI I think is nice.
Speaker 2: Yeah she is a gen z. Yeah I'm not. I'm not.
Speaker 2: I identify as.
Speaker 3: But no, the like like the ninety seven year Old
Speaker 3: Diner and like the the the mud Men video, the
Speaker 3: Diarrhea Factory, like those are all examples of things that
Speaker 3: like will become like meta, like that meta that new
Speaker 3: like extra layer of meta irony over it, you know,
Speaker 3: like Twitter. I feel like in the last year has
Speaker 3: just been especially leaning into that ever since Elon took over,
Speaker 3: and everyone's becoming like more brain dead and more like nazified.
Speaker 3: You know, It's it's like a weird It's been like
Speaker 3: kind of a fun thing seeing some of this ship,
Speaker 3: But I don't know is it worth as I definitely, oh,
Speaker 3: it definitely feels I feel like I'm more stupid than
Speaker 3: I've ever been.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, you know, it's like it's not really like
Speaker 1: you know, I like it might be like cringe to say,
Speaker 1: but like I liked Twitter, Like I liked the way
Speaker 1: like it was, like even if it was like I mean,
Speaker 1: first of all, like social media is bad, like all
Speaker 1: social media is bad.
Speaker 2: Twitter's no different. I recognize that.
Speaker 1: But you know, I made a lot of friends, you know,
Speaker 1: like like junipersaid, like having fun, like there was a
Speaker 1: lot of fun to be had.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we wouldn't have half if.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: Yeah, actually, you know what, I want to pull this
Speaker 1: up because I was looking at this earlier. I was
Speaker 1: looking up the Wikipedia for Twitter, something I've never done before,
Speaker 1: and one thing I learned was that Twitter actually like
Speaker 1: started from a message board app thing like it was
Speaker 1: a thing to post messages for political campaigning for a
Speaker 1: group of people called the Ruckus Society thought Ruckus, but
Speaker 1: they were trying to protest the two thousand and four
Speaker 1: Republican National Convention.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, so they're like, what's going on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's interesting to know that the very very
Speaker 1: like seed from this was for like left wing political activism,
Speaker 1: which is interesting.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so if you look at their Wikipedia.
Speaker 1: And first of all, it's x X Twitter, we ain't
Speaker 1: calling it that dog.
Speaker 2: No, we're dead naming.
Speaker 3: I mean, like ever since it became X, I know,
Speaker 3: I understand why transphobe's dead name.
Speaker 2: It's really fucking fun. It's really fun. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially it's fun like Okay, look, look if my
Speaker 1: friend used to be named Jacob and then they transition
Speaker 1: and they're like, no, i'ms are movies, I'd be like,
Speaker 1: you're Jacob until you change your fucking name to something
Speaker 1: like more reasonable.
Speaker 2: We're pro dead naming.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, I'm joking for I don't know, I don't
Speaker 3: want to be uh no, we're no yea, yeah you can't.
Speaker 2: You can't joke on this podcast.
Speaker 3: No, we're serious. This is serious and I am being
Speaker 3: serious about dead naming.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, full service. Yeah, that's meta irony. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what meta irony is.
Speaker 3: That's just like my brain now at this point, it's
Speaker 3: just like who I've become, and it's it's horrible, but
Speaker 3: I'll never change.
Speaker 2: I think I wanted to post you on this conversation
Speaker 2: is something that I feel like happens to me quite
Speaker 2: a bit in all of this is well, you know,
Speaker 2: since my journey becoming a ship poster, I would say
Speaker 2: it probably increased my ship posting a lot. Since, like
Speaker 2: I would say, like twenty twenty two, twenty twenty one
Speaker 2: is when I really became like a pretty avid ship
Speaker 2: poster and just stopped posting about serious shit. I just realized, like,
Speaker 2: I'm just here to have fun. You know. Are y'all
Speaker 2: familiar with pose law? Are y'all familiar with this?
Speaker 1: In reference to the show about drag Queens, it's about
Speaker 1: trans women, that's about voting. Non serve that can serve,
Speaker 1: will tell any mothers that can serve, will serve.
Speaker 2: Tell us pose law. Pose law is.
Speaker 3: An I'm just reading this off the Wikipedia is an
Speaker 3: adage of Internet culture which says that, without a clear
Speaker 3: indicator of the author's intent, any parody or sarcastic expression
Speaker 3: of extreme views can be mistaken by some readers for
Speaker 3: a sincere expression of those views.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so.
Speaker 3: So like it's like if it's if I said I'm
Speaker 3: in favor of dead naming and all of your audience
Speaker 3: was like, oh, we're going to kill her because she
Speaker 3: loves naming, because they thought I was serious.
Speaker 2: Can't they can't like detect or any whatsoever. And I
Speaker 2: feel like this happens to me a lot because lately
Speaker 2: I've really gotten tired of like the whole Like I
Speaker 2: feel like it's very kind of like a neo Okay,
Speaker 2: sorry to be like this, but like I feel like
Speaker 2: it's very like a neolib thing to just like constantly
Speaker 2: meme about like Trump, and like in if you're like
Speaker 2: still meming about like Trump in twenty twenty four and
Speaker 2: not meaning about how fucking stupid Joe Biden is, like
Speaker 2: that irritates me.
Speaker 3: And I feel like, I wait, you don't want to
Speaker 3: you don't want to see another post about how he's
Speaker 3: a cheetah oh.
Speaker 2: Over like the second the mugshot happened, I was so
Speaker 2: over all the like the people being like, oh, look
Speaker 2: at the mugshot. I'm like whatever, But I like meme
Speaker 2: a lot about like Joe Biden and like Kamala Harris
Speaker 2: because they're genuinely like clowns sometimes, you know, and like
Speaker 2: I feel like that makes people think that like I'm
Speaker 2: like a Republican and I'm just like, no, I just
Speaker 2: like think everyone deserves criticism.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, that's like the that's like kind of the reason
Speaker 3: why people and all three of us have probably been
Speaker 3: called like a Russian asset is because you like criticize
Speaker 3: like democrats.
Speaker 2: You know, we're not supposed to.
Speaker 3: So I have this current theory about Kamala Harris. I
Speaker 3: think I think Kamala Harris we I didn't. I didn't
Speaker 3: see this about her when she was running in twenty
Speaker 3: twenty for president, But I think the time is now
Speaker 3: to like understand her in a deeper context where she
Speaker 3: is politically not the best, she's politically not good, but
Speaker 3: she's an analog to Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: Okay, hear me.
Speaker 3: Out, because okay, the coconut tree, the coconut tree thing,
Speaker 3: Like she just says weird shit, like how Trump would
Speaker 3: say and and like this. So there's this video going around,
Speaker 3: so yeah, she does like weird She says weird shit
Speaker 3: that's really funny sometimes, just like Donald Trump does. And
Speaker 3: recently she went to I saw this video of her
Speaker 3: going to Puerto Rico and you saw this video, yeah,
Speaker 3: like people were protesting and singing in Puerto rican Yeah,
Speaker 3: and then they were they were like clapping and Kamala
Speaker 3: Harris walks out of the embassy and they're like singing,
Speaker 3: but they're singing a protest song and she like starts
Speaker 3: clapping with them and like an aid whispers in her
Speaker 3: ear like and and says what they're saying, and she
Speaker 3: just stops and like freezes, like that's like Donald, That's
Speaker 3: what's something Donald Trump would do. It's like go walk
Speaker 3: out and start clapping and dancing and not realize what they're.
Speaker 2: Paraelan kisses a woman on the stomach thinking that she
Speaker 2: was like pregnant, like type of vibes, you know.
Speaker 1: Or the or the video of Madonna being like everyone
Speaker 1: stands up? Why standing up? And someone like she's in
Speaker 1: a wheelchair. She's like, oh, I guess you have.
Speaker 5: That's it's just like I love that kind of goofy
Speaker 5: goof like pre dementia, kind of like behave you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think so this is my also my theory.
Speaker 3: Republicans have been talking about this for a while. I
Speaker 3: didn't believe it at first, but I kind of do
Speaker 3: now that Kamala Harris at the Democratic Convention is going
Speaker 3: to replace Joe Biden. Joe Biden will step down and
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris will be the presidential nominee. And little do
Speaker 3: we know, she's going to start saying all the funny
Speaker 3: shit She's gonna she's going to talk about, like the
Speaker 3: mountain or like well, like you know, she's going to
Speaker 3: start doing her Trump yet ship, like the coconut tree,
Speaker 3: the wheels on the bus. She's going to keep having
Speaker 3: these hits in.
Speaker 1: The I don't know, Yeah, I don't think you're the
Speaker 1: only one that thinks this.
Speaker 2: I've kind of seen this theory befloated a little.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I probably will be wrong because I've been
Speaker 3: wrong about every single prediction I've ever made politically since
Speaker 3: twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2: So feels a little Bernie, like, here's how we can matha,
Speaker 2: here's Kamala's here's how matha for Bernie to win. I
Speaker 2: think here's how we can still make those way or
Speaker 2: probably me, this is just men, I'm a fucking idiot
Speaker 2: who dropped it. So sorry. I think Joe Biden's just
Speaker 2: gonna drop dead. And like then that's the funniest And
Speaker 2: then like Kamala has to like step up.
Speaker 3: The October surprise is they're going to commit suicide on
Speaker 3: the same thing.
Speaker 1: In a perfect club, right. I got sidetracked with the
Speaker 1: Wikipedia thing. But the funny thing is about it is that,
Speaker 1: like it starts off with just a bunch of like
Speaker 1: very very very basic information. But then when it gets
Speaker 1: to October twenty twenty two, where Elon Musk acquires Twitter,
Speaker 1: it says the platform has been criticized for enabling the
Speaker 1: increased spread of disinformation, hate speech, anti semitism, homophobia, fansphobia,
Speaker 1: and child pornography. O god, and I just love how
Speaker 1: each of those get work. And it's like I don't know,
Speaker 1: like it's it's just it really kind of gives you pause.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like this didn't fail, Like this train
Speaker 1: is still along, but.
Speaker 2: At what cost? At what cost is it? You know,
Speaker 2: but is that at the cost of us or him,
Speaker 2: I think like I think it.
Speaker 3: I think it's at the cost of all of us,
Speaker 3: you know, like I think I think buying like that,
Speaker 3: Like Twitter has ruined Elon Musk's brain and not just
Speaker 3: his brain, like he is just the big biggest example
Speaker 3: of the type of person who has just like embraced
Speaker 3: the brain route, like we watch like the brain rot
Speaker 3: we consume is that we make, or the ninety seven
Speaker 3: year old diner that makes coke the old fashioned way.
Speaker 3: It's like the fun like bull shit. But then he'll
Speaker 3: see like racist statistics and be like, oh it's interesting
Speaker 3: and like will not do anything of it, you know,
Speaker 3: and just retreated as like fact. Yeah, yeah, oh absolutely
Speaker 3: every day he does. Yeah yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: Twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, like the Twitter like side characters
Speaker 1: were people like Zach Fox or like Temmy Thick, you know,
Speaker 1: like people that like, don't worry kidding, you know, like
Speaker 1: Zach Fox is a.
Speaker 2: Legitimately like funny person.
Speaker 1: He made funny tweets that people like, and that's why
Speaker 1: he got popular.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The main characters now are like Ian Miles, Chong Libs
Speaker 1: of TikTok and Catured.
Speaker 2: Oh god, Catured Oh god.
Speaker 1: It's I don't know, like, it's just it's very like
Speaker 1: I don't worry about the kitten.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, we can talk about No, we can talk
Speaker 2: about that.
Speaker 1: So I would love to talk about cats Shirt is
Speaker 1: very so cats Turd.
Speaker 2: Do you want to explain Catsert? Oh god, I don't
Speaker 2: know if I can.
Speaker 3: So basically, so, I've actually known about cat Turd for
Speaker 3: a couple of years. Now, this this is going to
Speaker 3: sound insane to anyone who doesn't know. But but Jane,
Speaker 3: do you know spurt Magoo on Twitter?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's you love enthusiastically. Yes, that's the
Speaker 2: movie Spur Spurt Magoo.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so spurt Magoo has been like someone who has
Speaker 3: like kept track of cat turd for years. And one
Speaker 3: thing that the first thing I knew about cat turd
Speaker 3: is that he has a fart fetish. Yeah no, let
Speaker 3: me find the ship. Let me find the ship. He
Speaker 3: followed like cat turd follows, and like turd is in
Speaker 3: the name. If you go on cat Turd's Twitter account,
Speaker 3: search a fart or like poop or turd and see it.
Speaker 3: Just look at all the posts he makes with those
Speaker 3: three phrases.
Speaker 2: Carmen just clicked the chat, I sent a picture of him.
Speaker 2: I like imagine imagining like a Nico Avocado type of character.
Speaker 1: Oh you will be You'll be really surprised that what
Speaker 1: you're about to see. Oh my god, he looks like, Okay,
Speaker 1: he doesn't look like Nico Alocado.
Speaker 2: He looks like, oh he does not. No, I'm saying
Speaker 2: he doesn't. I'm saying he looks like the guy who
Speaker 2: replaced uh Joe exotic his He looks like the thin
Speaker 2: lipped math had who looks dope as hell. I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: that's like the thing dressing country because it's Nashville and
Speaker 2: John freaking Like the.
Speaker 3: Thing with cat Turd is he just looks like any
Speaker 3: guy that would be at like a small town dive bar.
Speaker 3: You know, he's just like he's your average like right
Speaker 3: wing kind of weirdo. But let me before I explain
Speaker 3: more about cat Turd, because my experience with cat tured
Speaker 3: he but like maybe about five six my like exposure.
Speaker 3: I first found him in like twenty twenty one, twenty
Speaker 3: two because spert Magoo would make fun of him, so
Speaker 3: I knew him as the fart fetish guy first. So
Speaker 3: let me let me read a selection of some of
Speaker 3: his tweets. Okay, so this is cat turn. Every single
Speaker 3: person in the disastrous Biden regime has the IQ of
Speaker 3: two million year old dinosaur. Fart breaking fickle fried pickle
Speaker 3: onion farts now have a higher approval rating than Joe Biden.
Speaker 3: Another one Twitter removes about Twitter removes around six thousand
Speaker 3: followers a week from me. Imagine being triggered by fart
Speaker 3: jokes this much. I've never been throttled, censored, shadow band notifications,
Speaker 3: turned off and hidden by Twitter like I have in
Speaker 3: the past few weeks. They must really hate fart jokes,
Speaker 3: and like I'm scrolling, I'm just scrolling. If you search
Speaker 3: fart on his account, he just keeps going. It just
Speaker 3: keeps going. Suffice to say, there's a lot of evidence
Speaker 3: of him having like a fart fetish, but in recent years,
Speaker 3: specifically when Elon Musk took over Twitter, he's kind of
Speaker 3: been like the like poster child, the poster poster for
Speaker 3: like kind of like the right wing shift of the website.
Speaker 3: And he's, yeah, he like looks like a country dude
Speaker 3: who's like kind of a poser about it.
Speaker 2: I don't know, he's just looks like a dad from
Speaker 2: gec County. Yeah, I was going to say it sounds
Speaker 2: like my dad the number of part.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he looks like a fifty year old guy in
Speaker 1: like Georgia that like not Atlanta, but the rest of Georgia.
Speaker 1: That Yeah, it's just like chilling. But it is very
Speaker 1: very very reactionary.
Speaker 2: Looking in his likes for some like training portn or something.
Speaker 2: You're not you're not gonna that.
Speaker 1: We we would be we would know about that if
Speaker 1: that happened.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Yeah, but like a text at like one o'clock
Speaker 2: in the morning, like Carmen, it happened.
Speaker 3: But this is this is like the example of like
Speaker 3: the type of main character that exists now. It's like
Speaker 3: all these kind of guys because Elan Moose, Moose Mussolini,
Speaker 3: Elan Musk kind of like would boost a lot of
Speaker 3: these accounts. But yeah, like back in the day, like
Speaker 3: we had Bean Dad. Do you know about Bean Dad?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, do you know about the dad Carmen? I
Speaker 2: actually think I do know about Bean Dad. Is that
Speaker 2: the guy who was like super like preparedness trying to
Speaker 2: prepare his daughter for like the hard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he like wouldn't show his daughter like how to
Speaker 1: open a can of something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he got like in trouble for like child abuse.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then there was what else? There was like
Speaker 3: a good run of main characters, like right at the
Speaker 3: beginning and before and like a little at the beginning
Speaker 3: of COVID there.
Speaker 2: Was Christian ever end up on Twitter. Yeah sort of.
Speaker 1: I don't that's my favorite character. That's more for chance,
Speaker 1: yes more, that's way more fortune.
Speaker 2: But I found out about Christian through YouTube. Well the
Speaker 2: thing is Twitter, like is four chan?
Speaker 4: Now? Yeah?
Speaker 2: It is? Yeah, four chan. But every once in.
Speaker 1: A while you get either a video of a very
Speaker 1: fucked up looking fish that goes around or like Ian
Speaker 1: Miles Chong is about to be like executed in a
Speaker 1: Sharia law execution in Malaysia, or.
Speaker 2: I hate that I know who Ian Myles. No one
Speaker 2: should know who he is. No, I know who lives
Speaker 2: of TikTok is and I know who Ian Myles Kongue
Speaker 2: is and I don't have a TikTok And I don't.
Speaker 3: Say, Okay, you're well, you you know more about Twitter
Speaker 3: than I thought. I'll be honest, I know.
Speaker 2: And it's a lot from Instagram, the trickle down effect
Speaker 2: and Twitter really is at the at the top.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I genuinely still think despite how horrible and and
Speaker 3: I would never recommend anyone getting on Twitter, but it's
Speaker 3: still kind of is it still kind of is yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's funny because yeah, like bringing it back
Speaker 1: to like the Blue Sky thing, like Blue Sky and
Speaker 1: Threads honestly did have a chance to be the next thing,
Speaker 1: and they fucking Blue.
Speaker 2: Guy waited too long.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And the main thing is they still don't have DMS.
Speaker 1: And it's yes, yeah, and that's one thing that like
Speaker 1: everyone wants, they don't have DMS, and they just waited
Speaker 1: a really long time to go public. I mean, I
Speaker 1: hate to say it, but like one of the best
Speaker 1: things about Twitter has always been that like there's an
Speaker 1: even playing field and like you know, you can be
Speaker 1: like hey, Senator John Fetterman suck Like you know, like
Speaker 1: there's an even playing.
Speaker 3: The best ship about Twitter is like you could literally, yeah,
Speaker 3: tweet anything at anyone, any powerful position.
Speaker 2: And there's a good chance you can get or even
Speaker 2: like that toxicity is like what like enriches the Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's huge. Yeah, and this is there's just nothing like
Speaker 2: white like that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, like breaking that aspect into making it this
Speaker 1: like weird like pay to play thing.
Speaker 3: And now they're like trying to do a pivot to video, which,
Speaker 3: like you know, there's some videos that I enjoy that
Speaker 3: go around every once in a while, like the ninety
Speaker 3: seven year old Diner. But there's like a new type
Speaker 3: and we kind of touched on it, Janey, when I
Speaker 3: think you were on this the second part where we
Speaker 3: talked about the horny reply guys that respond to like
Speaker 3: AI images of people.
Speaker 2: Were you on that part.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's like a new genre of person where we're
Speaker 3: not scream. Yeah, that's like my favorite new thing about Twitter,
Speaker 3: where there's a specific guy that will like respond five
Speaker 3: follow him because it's hilarious. But I follow him now
Speaker 3: and he responds to AI. Okay, I have one here.
Speaker 3: It's a super obvious AI like generated version of this
Speaker 3: woman and you can see her nipples through the shirt
Speaker 3: that she's wearing, obviously AI generated, And this guy responds with,
Speaker 3: I love to see Naples, like like the city in
Speaker 3: like in Italy. It's just like it's like the like
Speaker 3: I don't know, just like the dumbest people that there's
Speaker 3: so many dumb people I've heard, Like.
Speaker 2: That's what Facebook has essentially devolved into is just like
Speaker 2: the craziest ai R and like tons of people saying
Speaker 2: like amen, what yeah, It's like Facebook is just the same,
Speaker 2: except the functionalities not even compared to Elon's Twitter. The
Speaker 2: functionality is worse, and it's all old people. That's all
Speaker 2: old people liking ai art On.
Speaker 1: Like the reason like Facebook like sucks, and the reason
Speaker 1: why like, uh, like millennials and zoomers and younger is
Speaker 1: just going to gravitate less and less to it is
Speaker 1: because its whole model was like keeping in touch with
Speaker 1: like people, you know, like people in real life, and
Speaker 1: it's like I don't want these people to see what
Speaker 1: I'm doing on the interview.
Speaker 2: You know, like kind of the whole point.
Speaker 3: Like that's why I switched to Twitter also, and like reddicks,
Speaker 3: I was like, you know, I am annoying the fuck
Speaker 3: out of my grandma posting about Bernie Sanders, Like she
Speaker 3: doesn't need to see this. So like when when I
Speaker 3: like went to Twitter, and like when people like the
Speaker 3: first time someone I knew in real life was like,
Speaker 3: wait is this your Twitter account? The first time that happened,
Speaker 3: I was like, oh no, oh no, it's me. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but oh.
Speaker 2: God, no. Oh no, it was terrifying.
Speaker 3: I was like, I cannot believe you see this shit
Speaker 3: I post on Twitter.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it was like Jao videos or something. Yeah, no,
Speaker 2: it could be worse.
Speaker 3: It could be worse a different world where I like
Speaker 3: leans it did like sex work or something.
Speaker 2: Holy shit, I had a that was Okay. I when
Speaker 2: I say I've never been on Twitter, I have been
Speaker 2: on Twitter and it was only for sex work and
Speaker 2: I literally only followed others.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when I was suspended, I used my like sex
Speaker 1: work account that like I kind of quit doing OnlyFans
Speaker 1: because I just got like bored and mental unwell enough
Speaker 1: to do it. And uh yeah, I used my like
Speaker 1: sex work account. I just I literally had to manually
Speaker 1: delete like pretty much every single post. No, and then yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that was like my like all to account until
Speaker 1: I got my like main one like restored.
Speaker 2: To delete all the butt whole pit. I mean literally yea.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'll just say this, like I if Elon
Speaker 1: ever makes bookmarks.
Speaker 2: Public, it's over. It's over.
Speaker 3: That's the one place that there's still safety is the bookmarks.
Speaker 2: That is, yeah, there is there is a sacredness to
Speaker 2: the bookmarks. I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm already not comfortable seeing how many bookmarks are on
Speaker 1: a post, like, oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's already too much knowledge. That's already too much.
Speaker 1: It's also I mean it's probably fake, just like fucking
Speaker 1: all the views are and half of the fucking like
Speaker 1: I also read this just on the Wikipedia, but they
Speaker 1: found out in like twenty like eighteen or something that
Speaker 1: like fifteen percent of Twitter's users are not real.
Speaker 2: It's just oh, it's absolutely higher now.
Speaker 1: It's yea, yeah, it has to be like a lot
Speaker 1: higher now, like nudes in bio.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah in bio.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's that's like been another new Twitter thing that
Speaker 3: I love is so there was so there was like
Speaker 3: different types of ads that people will like buy. I
Speaker 3: think it's it's got to be some sort of like
Speaker 3: money laundering scheme. But I have a collection here of
Speaker 3: These are all different accounts, by the way that I'm
Speaker 3: about to read off. These are all different accounts, all
Speaker 3: blue checks, all ads that were bought back in February.
Speaker 2: This is the first one.
Speaker 3: Hello Visionaries, share your vision, subscribe and like this is
Speaker 3: the next one. Hello Thought Pioneers join the conversation and
Speaker 3: inspire here's the next one. Hey visionaries, share your vision,
Speaker 3: subscribe and like. And here's the fourth one. Hey thought,
Speaker 3: let's hay thought leaders, let's shape the discourse together all ads.
Speaker 3: Someone paid money for all of those ads to like
Speaker 3: appear like like they're trying to sell something.
Speaker 2: What was it? I don't know. No, there's no link
Speaker 2: issues text.
Speaker 1: That's gotta be Wow, that's got okay, Yeah, that's gotta
Speaker 1: be Russia.
Speaker 3: There's just weird bullshit happening on this website.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there is a weird uncanniness to it.
Speaker 1: Like when you find like a post that has like
Speaker 1: clearly like it'll be just like maybe like a cute
Speaker 1: like animal video or something.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Just there's like this uncanny series of posting that you'll
Speaker 1: see where it's like people being like, wow, cool video,
Speaker 1: Uh huh one of the best. Yeah, wow, oh wow,
Speaker 1: what a nice video.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna to share this. No human wrote that. A
Speaker 2: human did not write that shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really like I don't know, it's it.
Speaker 2: It's it's kind of it.
Speaker 1: Fries your brain, but in like a different way than
Speaker 1: we've brought up already. Like it's just I don't know
Speaker 1: it's just this weird, like uncanny like assimilation of like humanity.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like it's like this experience, the way Twitter has
Speaker 3: evolved has really given credence to the dead Internet theory.
Speaker 2: In my opinion, I.
Speaker 3: Genuinely believe that as like completely true at this point.
Speaker 2: Explain the dead Internet theory to me as a as
Speaker 2: a as a kindergarten.
Speaker 3: So from my best understanding, it's it's just like a
Speaker 3: theory that like most of the Internet is basically just
Speaker 3: bot activity, and most social media is sustained by this
Speaker 3: spot activity. And I feel like seeing all of these
Speaker 3: types of posts like the pussy and bio, you know,
Speaker 3: these like really weird, uncanny posts that no human would
Speaker 3: ever say in real life, Like I just feel like,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, wait, no, this is like near like we're
Speaker 3: hitting a point where something is gonna like the we're
Speaker 3: gonna hit a bot.
Speaker 2: They're just gonna start talking to each other. They're gonna
Speaker 2: the bots are gonna start like selling pussy pics.
Speaker 3: No, that's so funny because that's like I've seen I
Speaker 3: don't know if I saved it, but I've seen two
Speaker 3: bots flirting with each other, like two two pussy and
Speaker 3: biobots flirting with each other. It's helpful, that's true. That is,
Speaker 3: it's like already happening. We're already there.
Speaker 2: Maybe there won't be a like robot takeover in the
Speaker 2: future because they'll all be on Twitter just flirting with like,
Speaker 2: you know, like endlessly. Yeah, that makes a lot of
Speaker 2: sense because you know, the Instagram version of this, and everybody,
Speaker 2: every girl, tell me if you've clocked this Instagram account before,
Speaker 2: they've got like one hundred and one hundred k followers
Speaker 2: or something, and every post they make has like less
Speaker 2: than like two hundred likes on yeah, and like maybe
Speaker 2: like ten comments, less than ten comments. So I don't
Speaker 2: really use Instagram. I don't know what that means. A scam,
Speaker 2: ok yeah, okay. And a lot of people on Instagram
Speaker 2: are like trying to like project this like image of
Speaker 2: like I'm an influencer, I'm successful, I'm I see, and
Speaker 2: the way to do that is to like buy a
Speaker 2: bunch of followers and then like post videos of yourself
Speaker 2: an economy being like of course I fight first class.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, like projecting that sort of and like
Speaker 3: trying to manifest.
Speaker 2: It, you know, yeah, like trying to make it till
Speaker 2: you make Yeah, exactly like me tomorrow on this fucking
Speaker 2: movie for sound that I've never fucking done before.
Speaker 3: Yeah, ship, Yeah, I know. The that's it's a it's
Speaker 3: a fun place. It's a it's a it's ruined my life,
Speaker 3: but it's also it's made my life better.
Speaker 2: So who's to say if it's good or bad?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd feel remiss if I didn't mention how like
Speaker 1: you were like literally someone that was like targeted by
Speaker 1: the baron himself, like the baron your whole account like
Speaker 1: and then correct me if I'm wrong, But weren't wasn't
Speaker 1: your whole account fucking band?
Speaker 2: Because like Ian Milestrong was like Juniper is this person
Speaker 2: and the like, So.
Speaker 3: The exact way, the exact process that it happened, it
Speaker 3: wasn't him. I wish it was him, that would be
Speaker 3: so much funnier. It was actually libs of TikTok so
Speaker 3: I hate her. But so what I did is it
Speaker 3: was when Elon Musk changed how the headlines worked on Twitter.
Speaker 3: It was do you remember how like headlines used to
Speaker 3: appear below the article. He was going to get rid
Speaker 3: of the headlines. It was just going to be the
Speaker 3: image when you clicked on it, which is like, that's
Speaker 3: the dumbest shit I've ever heard. Yeah, the dumbest shit
Speaker 3: I've ever heard. So I when he implemented that change,
Speaker 3: was like, I'm going to try to use this to, like,
Speaker 3: I don't know, show how stupid this is. So I
Speaker 3: took a p I took an article that was the
Speaker 3: title of the article said something like Elon Musk wants
Speaker 3: to hide this headline. That was like the headline of
Speaker 3: the article, but it was a picture of Elon Musk
Speaker 3: and my caption because there's no caption anymore, there's no subtext,
Speaker 3: it doesn't show what it actually says. My caption was
Speaker 3: breaking news. Evidence of Elon Musk being a pedophile is
Speaker 3: mounting rapidly, and it made the rounds like pretty pretty widely,
Speaker 3: and limbs of TikTok and you guys, I think you
Speaker 3: probably know Alexandra what's her last name?
Speaker 2: I just like know about from I actually don't.
Speaker 3: Know, Yeah, and she retweeted it and libs it came
Speaker 3: on libs of TikTok's radar and screenshotted her retweet of
Speaker 3: my post tagged Elon Musk like a little bitch baby
Speaker 3: that she was like, they're making fun of you. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and then so and then Elon Musk responded to libs
Speaker 3: of TikTok's posts, saying they're batshit crazy. And I when
Speaker 3: I saw he responded, I'm like, oh, it's over.
Speaker 2: It's over.
Speaker 3: It's over. And I was suspended like two days later.
Speaker 3: After that took that long, I was too. I like
Speaker 3: woke up one day and I was like, oh, I'm gone,
Speaker 3: I'm suspended.
Speaker 1: That's funny because one of my finest, one of my
Speaker 1: only like proud, like genuinely proud like Twitter moments was
Speaker 1: after the club Q shooting, Tempoole no there with me.
Speaker 1: It's but Timpoole was saying something about how like I
Speaker 1: don't know all these conservatives were doing this whole like
Speaker 1: who me?
Speaker 2: Like, how could what I have said led to this? Right?
Speaker 1: And I like retweeted Tempoole and said Timpoole is a
Speaker 1: confirmed pedophile with multiple serious allegations against and it got
Speaker 1: like triple quadruple like ratio over them.
Speaker 2: It's incredible.
Speaker 1: I deleted it before I got I don't know, suit
Speaker 1: or something, but is very indicative of like the societal
Speaker 1: collapse that we're going through that, like so many people
Speaker 1: are just so willingly to say like insane shit and
Speaker 1: it just doesn't even matter, like I mean, fuck Temple,
Speaker 1: Like it's like it's not even really like about that.
Speaker 1: It's just like making ship up from like whole cloth
Speaker 1: about people just because who cares.
Speaker 3: You can you can do anything you want. You can
Speaker 3: literally say anything, you can do anything.
Speaker 2: People will believe you.
Speaker 3: People will believe anything that you say if you're confident enough,
Speaker 3: just like they're gonna believe you're gonna do a great job,
Speaker 3: and you will do a great job. So you're gonna
Speaker 3: be confident tomorrow on your sound job.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, same principle period. So society is collapsing. Shit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, It's what I will say is just hang out,
Speaker 3: find find find the friends online, have a good time,
Speaker 3: try to avoid the like the dog shit because there's
Speaker 3: a lot of it, but there's there's also good people
Speaker 3: out there.
Speaker 1: And it was quite fun calling Tim Pool a pedophile
Speaker 1: and then watching people like watching people say like, oh,
Speaker 1: so you're just saying stuff about people and like that's
Speaker 1: just how it is now, and it's like, yes, that's
Speaker 1: what he does, that's what these others everyone doing.
Speaker 3: That's what they do, and that's why one of the
Speaker 3: like it's so it's it feels crazy to say, but
Speaker 3: like it genuinely is one of my favorite moments online
Speaker 3: that I know for a fact that Elon Musk saw
Speaker 3: me call him a pedophile like that.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I can die happy. Yeah, Like I just I could
Speaker 3: die happy right now. Like I am so satisfied with
Speaker 3: everything I've done in my life.
Speaker 2: It is cool. If I could have, like one wish
Speaker 2: in my life is I would love to talk to
Speaker 2: Elon Musk's trans daughter just one time. Yeah, to her.
Speaker 1: I just want to know if she's a if she's
Speaker 1: a beauty. Please reach out to us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, reach out, sister. We are there for you. I'm
Speaker 2: pulling for you, guys. I'm pulling for you. Guys.
Speaker 1: You guys got those Juniper. Thank you so much for
Speaker 1: coming on. Do you have anything you want to plug?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: No, thank you for inviting me. This is so much fun.
Speaker 3: I hope people enjoy listening to us talk about the
Speaker 3: worst website of all time. They will yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 3: I yeah, listen. I do a podcast called Western Kabuki.
Speaker 3: We kind of just talk about like things that are
Speaker 3: happening online. Our most recent episode that we just put
Speaker 3: up was about gamer Gate two, which is like a
Speaker 3: reprisal of you know, like all the dumbest people online
Speaker 3: being like, oh we need we're just talking about ethics
Speaker 3: and video game journalism or whatever, which is like, you know,
Speaker 3: just call back to ten years ago.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: So we just talked about like shit like that, like
Speaker 3: like internet characters, internet cultures. We're going to do one
Speaker 3: eventually about urine therapists. Oh my god, I love that topic.
Speaker 3: I don't even Yeah, have you all talked about Will Blunderfield.
Speaker 2: A lot at all that I'm aware of, not that
Speaker 2: I'm aware of. One day to talk about will Blunderful? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I will.
Speaker 3: I will, Yeah, I will talk to you. I would
Speaker 3: like I need to know who this is. Yeah, so
Speaker 3: that's kind of like what we talked about on that show.
Speaker 3: I guess I stream Melee now, I stream Super Smash
Speaker 3: Brothers Melee every once in a way, I play Captain
Speaker 3: Falcon period. Yeah, yeah exactly. And then other than that,
Speaker 3: you can just follow me on Twitter at Can't Ever Die.
Speaker 3: That's where I'm at right now.
Speaker 2: That's a legendary at By the way, thank you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, I thought so too. I was so
Speaker 3: happy I got it and that it was available. That's
Speaker 3: all I got for plugs.
Speaker 2: Cool. Well, thank you so much for joining us, Jennifer.
Speaker 2: You were the perfect guest. Thank you so much.
Speaker 3: We really thank you. Yeah, no, you can just say
Speaker 3: I have like brain worms. I'm like so online and.
Speaker 2: I know, I know I am. Yeah. I think we
Speaker 2: were all like we all happened to be just about well,
Speaker 2: y'all are a little bit like the next notch above condicy.
Speaker 2: It's just a.
Speaker 1: Different strain, right exactly. We get the instant really, actually,
Speaker 1: this is a better comparison. We get the instant release.
Speaker 1: You get the extend that team.
Speaker 2: Yes, I do get the extended relief. Well, Janie, that
Speaker 2: was a hilarious and funny episode. I think my brain
Speaker 2: has been absolutely fried by just the concepts that you
Speaker 2: just stuffed in my brain. Yeah, they'll never leave. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I've learned some absolutely crazy shit and I my brain
Speaker 2: is about to short circuit. But before it does, why
Speaker 2: don't we take some calls from our your listeners.
Speaker 1: Janie, let's use the last like nine or ten brain
Speaker 1: cells you got for for good instead of them together.
Speaker 2: I'm rubbing them together.
Speaker 1: Let's let's hear what our little Amiba's got to say
Speaker 1: to us to that.
Speaker 4: Hey, beauties, I'm Sam. She her not that you could tell.
Speaker 4: And I was just having this problem. I'll try to
Speaker 4: keep it short, but my I would I'm thinking about
Speaker 4: like breaking up with my girlfriend more than thinking about it.
Speaker 4: I would like to break up with my trans girlfriend.
Speaker 4: Things have been a little rocky. I feel like they've
Speaker 4: kind of run their course. I still like her a lot.
Speaker 4: She's a really good person, but there's just some relationship
Speaker 4: issues and some mental health stuff. Uh, and I just
Speaker 4: want to make sure that she's okay. I've waited a
Speaker 4: little while to make sure that she's in a better
Speaker 4: place and make sure that she won't, like, you know,
Speaker 4: die if I break up with her. But I was
Speaker 4: just wondering if you had any advice on a situation
Speaker 4: like this, like how do you break up with someone
Speaker 4: without like really hurting them, Because even if I hated her,
Speaker 4: I wouldn't, you know, I want her to be okay.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much? Thank you.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I kind of want to pitch this one
Speaker 2: to you first. I want to say right off the bat,
Speaker 2: I'm very sorry. That you felt the need to say.
Speaker 2: She Her followed by, not that you can tell. I'm
Speaker 2: very sorry. I have created the type of environment enough
Speaker 2: where you felt like you had to tell. I could
Speaker 2: actually tell. I could tell that you were sheet her.
Speaker 2: I want you to know that your voice is giving
Speaker 2: she her. Okay, you get. But that being said, this
Speaker 2: is a very tough question. This is a very very
Speaker 2: tough question because it is very hard to break up
Speaker 2: with somebody while you still care about them as a person.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have an answer, but like you're not gonna
Speaker 1: like it, Like you're not gonna like like what I'm
Speaker 1: gonna like what I have to say. But my my
Speaker 1: shortest answer here is there is no right like there
Speaker 1: is no better time. It's just like you could you
Speaker 1: could think like because because I mean, I understand what
Speaker 1: you're saying. I understand the logic here, and I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: But it's like what you're gonna like do it on
Speaker 1: her birthday? Like you're gonna do it, like you're gonna
Speaker 1: wait for having the best day ever, everything's going right,
Speaker 1: and then you're like, oh, this is the right time,
Speaker 1: like or you're gonna wait till like things are just
Speaker 1: kind of like neutral and then oh, all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: this horrible thing just happened that now I'm in this
Speaker 1: relationship for six more months.
Speaker 2: Like, Carmen, have you ever had have you ever broken
Speaker 2: up with someone? No? And well, yes I have.
Speaker 1: Actually I feel like a lot of people if you
Speaker 1: fall into either the camp of like I've broken up
Speaker 1: with all of my partners or all of my partners
Speaker 1: have broken up with me.
Speaker 2: Well, I've actually been So I broke up with my
Speaker 2: first like boyfriend that I had. He was like my
Speaker 2: first like serious boyfriend. I did break up with him.
Speaker 2: My second boyfriend broke up with me. I broke up
Speaker 2: with my third. So I've had like a I've actually
Speaker 2: had a pretty good like interesting uh yeah, like really,
Speaker 2: the best way to break up with somebody is to
Speaker 2: get to the point where you absolutely cannot fucking stand
Speaker 2: the person and you absolutely hate everything about them. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and you just don't even care. Yeah, and you don't
Speaker 2: even care. Now obviously we're trying to be adults about this.
Speaker 1: And and do you sound like a like a not
Speaker 1: crazy person. You sound like you have you know, an
Speaker 1: empathetic bone that brain of yours. So yeah, that's obviously
Speaker 1: not like a realistic in this situation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the reality is is if you wait until
Speaker 2: the right moment is, you're just gonna be waiting forever,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I also have a very like, well, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be hard for me to avoid not getting into
Speaker 1: like my personal stuff to answer this question, so I'll
Speaker 1: just bite the bullet and say that, like I'm historically
Speaker 1: been a very kind of like cowardly person.
Speaker 2: I don't like conflict, I don't like upsetting people. I
Speaker 2: hate it.
Speaker 1: And especially I've I am on good terms with all
Speaker 1: but one of my exes, and historically, like I've kind
Speaker 1: of done this thing where I've just like waited for
Speaker 1: the relationship to get so like not even like toxic
Speaker 1: or bad sometimes, but just kind of like mid it's
Speaker 1: just kind of like just kind of like where neither
Speaker 1: of us are really getting anything out of this, and
Speaker 1: then they'll usually like break up with me in some way,
Speaker 1: and that's probably not like a good healthy thing to
Speaker 1: do at all.
Speaker 2: So I don't want to recommend you do that. I
Speaker 2: don't think you should be like me in that regard.
Speaker 1: Because this was also something that like I shared with
Speaker 1: one of my one of the only partner that I
Speaker 1: did break up with, and I feel like they might
Speaker 1: resent me for that because I feel like they might
Speaker 1: feel like that's something I did in our relationship. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't want to get too much into myself. I
Speaker 1: just want to kind of like make this like a
Speaker 1: relatable thing and say that, like I tried to do
Speaker 1: the best I could to like break up with them,
Speaker 1: because you know, honestly, it's kind of like what you said,
Speaker 1: like mental health stuff, like it's very hard to like
Speaker 1: I was, I always found myself very like concerned with them,
Speaker 1: and when I was like in a place where like
Speaker 1: I was happy or like I was like well adjusted,
Speaker 1: they would always be very like dour and negative, and
Speaker 1: it would just bring me down to a place where
Speaker 1: it was like this relationship is like hurting me and
Speaker 1: it sucks because, like I had a lot of sympathy
Speaker 1: for them, and I'm assuming you have a lot of
Speaker 1: sympathy for your partner too.
Speaker 2: It seems like you care about them, and I think
Speaker 2: you should.
Speaker 1: I think it's not normal to like hate and resent
Speaker 1: and have a toxic relationship with all of your exes,
Speaker 1: like no matter what like TV shows tell you, I
Speaker 1: think that's not normal. I think it's a lot more
Speaker 1: like indicative of like a normal mental state to like
Speaker 1: mutually break up to a degree, you'll you know, they
Speaker 1: might hate you, but I feel like in the long run,
Speaker 1: you'll realize that, like, oh I didn't care, I do
Speaker 1: still like this person. And that's how I feel about
Speaker 1: like all my exes.
Speaker 2: I like them all.
Speaker 1: I'm really good friends with some of them, but I
Speaker 1: don't want to be in a relationship with them.
Speaker 2: And that is just something that's going to take time.
Speaker 2: There's not going to be a right time, Like there's
Speaker 2: not going to be a better time. And if you're
Speaker 2: waiting for like the right time and like a person's
Speaker 2: like mental health, even like you could break up with
Speaker 2: them and then they're like Grandma dies tomorrow and right
Speaker 2: you know, then they're in a place of like need
Speaker 2: and it's like, well, what do you do? You run
Speaker 2: back to them? Well not really, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And also not to sound like a fucking like I
Speaker 1: don't know Twitter psychologist, but like.
Speaker 2: Twitter, we are, we kind of are.
Speaker 1: But it's not fair for you to be like I
Speaker 1: want out of this relationship and then they're like, well,
Speaker 1: I'll kill myself if you'll leave me, Like, that's not
Speaker 1: how this can that's not how this should work. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that that is necessarily what's happening. I think
Speaker 1: it's probably more so that you're concerned that, like if
Speaker 1: you leave her, then she'll she'll spiral or be left
Speaker 1: to her own devices.
Speaker 2: In some way, it means you care. You know, it
Speaker 2: means you care, which is a good thing. It's a
Speaker 2: human thing. But at the end of the day, you know,
Speaker 2: you got to do the tough thing.
Speaker 1: I think now that I'm like saying all this, I
Speaker 1: think the best probably advice would be maybe write something
Speaker 1: like a script sort of don't stick to it, like
Speaker 1: word for words, like reading it. But I think you
Speaker 1: should tell what you were supposed to say here is,
Speaker 1: write out your thoughts and like just get it all out.
Speaker 1: Maybe like when you're in the process of like saying
Speaker 1: this conversation that you really really don't really don't want
Speaker 1: to have, and believe me, I understand how much you
Speaker 1: don't want to have it, I think that you should say, like, look,
Speaker 1: I will still be here for you and you can
Speaker 1: still call me and you can still like we could
Speaker 1: still like have some sort of like contact, because I
Speaker 1: think that if if you're capable of it, if this
Speaker 1: isn't a situation like I need to get out now, Like,
Speaker 1: if you're capable of it, maybe just like you know,
Speaker 1: to separate, take some time apart, and you know, just
Speaker 1: say like, hey, but I'm still here for you if
Speaker 1: you like need something, and then if they're like having
Speaker 1: a moment, maybe they can like call you and like
Speaker 1: you can talk to them or something, and maybe that
Speaker 1: can help until they, like, you know, until they find
Speaker 1: a new friend group, until they like blossom into like
Speaker 1: a person who can exist without you.
Speaker 2: So right, Yeah, I didn't give you a funny yeah,
Speaker 2: no funny answer there. Yeah, I know that's a tough
Speaker 2: one and I'm really sorry that you're going through that
Speaker 2: right now. And I hope that you know, well, I
Speaker 2: know everything will turn out to be okay, it's just
Speaker 2: a matter of time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or quick funny answer, Uh, just be really evil
Speaker 1: and do instead of getting to a point yeah murdercy
Speaker 1: was Ideah No, no, do the opposite of what we
Speaker 1: said it first, My god, where you said uh or
Speaker 1: you said like it's easy to break up with someone
Speaker 1: if you like you hate them, make them hate you.
Speaker 2: Do something.
Speaker 1: Be repulsive. Be repulsive and put your shoes on the table.
Speaker 1: Start start farting under the covers. Cheat as as much
Speaker 1: as you can.
Speaker 2: You should have. Start cheating until you get caught.
Speaker 1: Drinking problem. Just don't stop drinking until they're gone, you know.
Speaker 1: Just make it to the point where they're like, I
Speaker 1: I gotta get out of this.
Speaker 2: When they become an alcoholic too. You you become a
Speaker 2: heroin outic.
Speaker 1: Up up the anti, keep keep up in the ante
Speaker 1: until they can't keep up anymore.
Speaker 2: That's that's what you gotta do.
Speaker 1: Like, just become a worse and worse person until they're like,
Speaker 1: I can't stand this and uh yeah, So those are
Speaker 1: your two options.
Speaker 2: So yeah, we hope we made that easy for you. Yeah,
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