1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: So we are approaching here in the near future, one 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: year since the October seventh terror attacks in Israel. I. 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 1: Remember I was co hosting the big weekend show that 4 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: weekend when the atrocity is unfolded, and sat there in 5 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: awe of what I was witnessing, hearing just the terror, 6 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: the hell that was unleashed on the Jewish people. It 7 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: was surreal to be on air, you know, co hosting 8 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: during that time and trying to relay that information to 9 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 1: the rest of America. So in that like, we're going 10 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,599 Speaker 1: to talk about that in the past few months that 11 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: have transpired on the show today with Yale Extein. She 12 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: is the president and CEO of the International Fellowship of 13 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: Christians and Jews. If you listen to the podcast, you 14 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: know that we've been partners with them for a little 15 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: while now in this shared mission to one just tell 16 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: the truth and stand up for what is good and righteous, 17 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: and then also just talk about an organization that really 18 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: is doing the Lord's work, that really is saving people, 19 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: that is providing life saving ambulances, that is providing food 20 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: and shelter, and is actually saving lives in Israel. And 21 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: I recently met Yale at an event and I wanted 22 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: to have her on the show, you know, not just 23 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: as a you know, a sponsor of the show, but 24 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: just as a guest on my own doing, on my 25 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: own volition, of just wanting to speak with her. Just 26 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: the stories that she was telling and the work that 27 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: they were doing, and the way that she was describing 28 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: what was happening in Israel. I wanted to have her 29 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: on to share that with the audience outside of just 30 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: you know, me reading these scripts and what have you, 31 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: of just really getting into it. So we're going to 32 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: talk to her about, you know, how do you even 33 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,559 Speaker 1: put into words what these past few months have meant 34 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: for the Jewish people. We're also going to talk about 35 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: the anti Semitism that we've all witnessed together around the 36 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: world here in the United States, you know, people chanting 37 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: death to Jews and cities across America, at college campuses, 38 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: at universities. How anyone could dehumanize a group of people 39 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: and the way that they have, you know, talk about 40 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: some of the trones that we saw. I remember when 41 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: we were reporting the weekend that it all happened, of 42 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: you know, women being raped next to the dead bodies 43 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: of their friends at the Nova Festival, women, children, elderly 44 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: just being butchered house to house by Hamas, and yet 45 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: the media still desired to cover what the Gaza Health 46 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: Ministry has to say, despite the fact that it's just 47 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: a Hamas propaganda group, considering Hamas controls the government. So, 48 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: you know, we've seen a lot of evil over the 49 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: past few months, you know, particularly is Israel Brasis for 50 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:38,399 Speaker 1: what's next as you know, increased hostility with Hesbala and 51 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: you know, basically surrounded by enemies. So that's what we're 52 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: going to do on the show is talk to Yale 53 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: and just get the perspective of someone who's on the 54 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: ground trying to save lives from a humanitarian perspective and 55 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: also just doing the right thing at a time when 56 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: you know that should be clear, but it seems to 57 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 1: not be, particularly those of us who are Christians who 58 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: stand with or Jewish friends. So stay tuned for Yale 59 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,959 Speaker 1: x teen, the President and CEO of the International Fellowship 60 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: of Christians and Jews. It is one of the world's 61 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: largest religious charitable organizations and they really do phenomenal work, 62 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: So stay tuned for Yale. Well, yeah, I oh, I 63 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: recently have gotten to know you. We've been working together 64 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: on a you know, a shared mission of just doing 65 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: the right thing and this time where you know, so 66 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: many people seem to lack moral clarity, it's just been 67 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: a pleasure to get to know you and you guys 68 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: are doing such important work. So I really appreciate you 69 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: taking the time to join the show today. 70 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 2: Oh, you're so incredible. It's such an honor to be 71 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 2: on with you. Thank you so much for having me. 72 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: So, you know, we're approaching almost a year since the terrible, 73 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: you know, terror attacks that we all witnessed, you know, 74 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: the deadliest terror attacks against Israel since the state's establishment 75 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: in nineteen forty eight, one of the deadliest har attacks 76 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: in history. How do you put into words what these 77 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: past few months have been like for the Jewish people? 78 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 2: It is it's such a hard question to answer because 79 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 2: we're still in it. You know, a lot of people 80 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 2: say that Israel is now a country with PTSD, but 81 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 2: we don't really have the PTSD yet because we're still 82 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,559 Speaker 2: living in it. We still have over one hundred of 83 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 2: our people, from one year old baby to an eighty 84 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 2: five year old grandfather, who are still in the gaza 85 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 2: as hostages and not home, and it won't stop, and 86 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 2: we won't be able to rest until every single one 87 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 2: of them is home. We're still under missile attack. Just 88 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 2: today there were dozens of missiles and rockets and Israeli 89 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 2: towns when them hitting a family home in Kuriashmona. Was 90 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 2: there just a few a few days ago. We still 91 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 2: have Iran threatening to bombard this tiny country the size 92 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 2: of New Jersey with rockets, and so we are still 93 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 2: living in it and the reality has changed so much 94 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 2: since October seventh. I think that you know, we always 95 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 2: remember that we are facing an evil and surrounded by 96 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 2: an enemy that wants to destroy us. These enemies remind 97 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 2: us every single day. They have from the day the 98 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 2: day of Israel is established. But we've been able to 99 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 2: kind of build life and move on with life and 100 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 2: have good life. Israel was voted the seventh happiest country 101 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 2: in the world, and that was after October seventh. So 102 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 2: I think what we're holding right now, Lisa, is this incredible. 103 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 2: I would say attribute of faith that people around the faith, 104 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 2: around the world who have faith could relate to. On 105 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:43,239 Speaker 2: one hand, yes, having fear, on one hand, yes, getting prepared, 106 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 2: doing everything we need to do, but on the other hand, 107 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,239 Speaker 2: having this resilience that the coffee shops are still full, 108 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 2: our children are still laughing, and within the pain and 109 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 2: fear and trauma, we have the knowledge that the Guardian 110 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 2: of Israel neither slumbers nor sleeps. People around the world 111 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: praying for us, and that we're on the front lines 112 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 2: of this war between good and evil, between those who 113 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 2: sanctify life, those of us with Judeo Christian values, versus 114 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 2: those who are seeking death. And it is not just 115 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 2: a moral but I think a holy responsibility and mission 116 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 2: just to be here and make sure the state of 117 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 2: Israel exists. 118 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: I think that's what people forget. You had mentioned that, 119 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: you know, Israel is a country about the size of 120 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: New Jersey, but surrounded by enemies that seek its destruction 121 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: simply for being Jewish. 122 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that that can't be lost on anyone. 123 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 2: And it's so often forgotten that Israel's looked at as 124 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 2: the oppressor, and yet we are a country of ten 125 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 2: million people two million those are actually non Jews who 126 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 2: are living in Israel, surrounded by hundreds of millions of Arabs. 127 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 2: There are twenty two states in the Arab Union, and 128 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 2: there's one Jewish state, not just in the Middle East, 129 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 2: but in the entire world. The land mass of Israel 130 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 2: is point four percent of the entire Middle East versus 131 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 2: ninety nine point six percent. That in all of the 132 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 2: Middle East there are thirty thousand Jews, and in Israel 133 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 2: there are over two million Arabs. So I think that 134 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 2: the whole narrative that's been creative, is created and spread 135 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 2: is the antithesis of the reality. But I don't think 136 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: it's anything new. I think that when you look at history, 137 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 2: when you go back to the Bible, from Amalek to 138 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 2: Wicked Hayman, all the way through modern history to the 139 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 2: Nazis and the Communists, there's always been people who hate 140 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 2: the Jewish people simply for being Jewish. And so what 141 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 2: we're seeing now with the rise of anti Semitism and 142 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 2: hating Israel and calling Israel all these names that were 143 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 2: so obviously not when you look at the facts on 144 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 2: the ground, I think it's the same evil that is 145 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 2: just taking a different name in our generation, Islamic extremism. 146 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 2: But what's different today, Lisa, is that there are so 147 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 2: many people of faith, Christians especially, who are waking up 148 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 2: to say, okay, I've seen this story before, and I'm 149 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 2: not going to be part of it. I've read about 150 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 2: what led to the Holocaust, the exact same things are 151 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 2: happening now. I'm going to stand against this hatred before 152 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 2: six million Jews are killed. And I think people are 153 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 2: also realizing so clearly it's not a fight or a 154 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 2: war only against the Jews. It is against Christians as well, 155 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 2: that when you see American flags being burned, my heart sinks. 156 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 2: At these protests, you realize it's not about Israel. It's 157 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 2: about Israel and America, about the Christians and the Jews, 158 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 2: about people of faith versus it's extremists who want to 159 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 2: destroy everything good. 160 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: We've got a quick commercial break more with Yel on 161 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: the other side, it's good versus evil. I mean, you 162 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: know when we talked, I told you you know, I 163 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: was co hosting on Fox the weekend the terror attacks 164 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: and just sat there at horror as we learn more 165 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: and more or about what transpired. You know, reports of 166 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: women being raped next to the bodies of their dead 167 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: friends at the Nova Music Festival. You know that your children, 168 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: women and the elderly butchered as Tamas went, you know, 169 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:17,839 Speaker 1: house to house through neighborhoods. You would think that witnessing 170 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: that those kinds of atrocities would unite everyone against the 171 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: evil that we saw. Uh, Yet it didn't. I mean, 172 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: we've we've seen people stand in solidarity with you know, 173 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: Hamas somehow with the Gosens. You know, I guess why, 174 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: you know, why is there that lack of moral clarity 175 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: when it seems so clear to tow good and honest people. 176 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 2: Think that it's such a great question and such a 177 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 2: blessing that that you and so many others are able 178 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 2: to see that. I think that's the power of hatred 179 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 2: that the the Arab extremist world. I specifically say Arab 180 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 2: extreme because the two million Arabs in Israel, according to 181 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 2: all the Poles, want to live in Israel. That we 182 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 2: have the abraham Accords, the historic Abrahm Accords, of course 183 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 2: with many Arab countries who realize that they want to 184 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 2: be partnered with Israel. And so I think that specifically 185 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 2: it's not the Arabs, this Arab extremists who have been 186 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 2: building this narrative against the Jewish people for so many 187 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 2: years for this moment, Because when you build a group 188 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 2: of people, in this case, the Jews as being so 189 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 2: bad and so horrible and the worst thing that ever 190 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 2: happened to the world, and that they are the source 191 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 2: of every war and the source of everything. That then suddenly, okay, 192 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 2: you could create legitimacy to do anything, to rape them, 193 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 2: to kidnap them, to behead of them, to go into 194 00:10:56,200 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 2: babies rooms with a with a knife and saw off 195 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 2: their head, to cut a woman's womb open, take out 196 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 2: their baby and burn them both alive. Suddenly, when you 197 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 2: create this narrative for so long that there's a group 198 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 2: of people that are some human, then you could create 199 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 2: support for anything that you do. And that's what's terrifying, 200 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 2: because that's exactly how did they burn six million Jews 201 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 2: in gas chambers in the middle of cities in Germany 202 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 2: and thirty thousand Jews in a mass grave in the 203 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 2: center of Kiev in Ukraine. How did they do this? 204 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 2: How people didn't know? And the answer is no, of 205 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 2: course they knew. They just created the narrative so much 206 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 2: before that Jews were some human that they were okay 207 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 2: with it, and so I think that's what we're seeing now. 208 00:11:54,160 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 2: But the absurdity is when you see things like gays 209 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 2: for Gaza I mean in Gaza, their charter literally says 210 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 2: that anyone who is suspected of being homosexual will be killed. 211 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 2: They have videos of themselves throwing people they suspected of 212 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 2: being gay's off buildings. And so how do you have 213 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 2: a group of people standing up for the evil that 214 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 2: would destroy them. It means the hatred in their heart 215 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 2: towards the other group of people is even stronger. And 216 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 2: that's where we see anti Semitism rearing this suggly head again, 217 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 2: that if it's not stopped, will lead to the same 218 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 2: things that we've seen throughout history. 219 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: You know, I've told my Jewish friends, I just I 220 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: simply did not realize that anti Semitism was so prevalent 221 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: in today's world. I just didn't, you know, it's been alarming, 222 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: you know, someone who's not Jewish to see what we've 223 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 1: seen in cities across the world, not just here in America, 224 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: at college campuses, where you see people cheering on the 225 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: death and destruction of Jews. I just, you know, I 226 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: honestly didn't realize it was so rampant. 227 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think what you've been talking about along 228 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 2: with your peers, is that it's not just a Jewish 229 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 2: problem is that it starts with the Jews, but then 230 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 2: it moves on to others. It starts we look at 231 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 2: what our enemies say. We're going first for the Saturday people, 232 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 2: the Jews, and then we're going for the Sunday people, 233 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 2: the Christians. We're going first for the little Satan Israel, 234 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 2: and then we're going for the big Satan America. When 235 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 2: you see at protests these people, these protesters burning American flags, 236 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 2: you realize the American people might feel divided on it, 237 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 2: but the enemies look at it very clear. We're in 238 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 2: the same boat. And so I think there are two 239 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 2: things here that stand out to me the most in 240 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 2: this story. As we see this, like you're saying, it 241 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 2: feels like it's this instantaneous rise in anti Semitism, Like 242 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 2: where did this come from? Where was this? Was this 243 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 2: always here? And I didn't see it? And I think 244 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 2: there are two things that stand out for me. Number one, 245 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 2: and they're very interconnected. Number one is how many people 246 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 2: are seeing what's happening and recognizing the evil that, even 247 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 2: if you're not Jewish, threatens you just as much, both 248 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 2: because it's an abomination to faith and if you're a Christian. 249 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 2: You realize, of course that Jesus was Jewish and believe 250 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 2: that Christians were grafted onto the rich, olive tree of Israel. 251 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 2: That this is a this is a personal story for 252 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 2: Christians as well, along with those values of standing for justice, 253 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 2: standing for what's right, standing with those who sanctify life. 254 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 2: And that's the second thing that I see through my 255 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 2: work on the ground with the International Fellowship of Christians 256 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 2: and Jews. What we represent is the silenced majority, because Lisa, 257 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 2: I don't think that the majority is so silent. I 258 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 2: think they just don't have many mainstream platforms who are 259 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 2: willing to speak their voice. You are one of the 260 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 2: brave ones, and I know you get a lot of 261 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 2: backlash for it. I know you get a lot of 262 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 2: people sending you hate mail and disagreeing with you because 263 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 2: how could you stand with Israel that you, Lisa, along 264 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 2: with so many others, especially at iHeart, represent represent this 265 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 2: silenced majority in America and here in Israel, with International 266 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 2: Fellowship of Christians and Jews, represents is the silenced majority 267 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 2: who stand with Israel. And so in the past two 268 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 2: days alone, I've been distributed over ten thousand food boxes 269 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 2: to bomb shelters to get ready for the Iranian attack. 270 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 2: The Fellowship has placed over one hundred and fifty bomb 271 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 2: shelters in the most strategic locations. We've equipped hospitals with 272 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 2: equipment that they need to deal with the mass casualties. 273 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 2: And in everything that we do, all this humanitarian aide 274 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 2: that we bring to the individuals, to the Holocaust survivors, 275 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 2: to the terrified children, to the heroic doctors, what we 276 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 2: tell them is this is from Christians who love you. 277 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 2: And it's incredible to see their face change. They look 278 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 2: at me and they say, Christians love us. I thought 279 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 2: the whole world has been taken over by anti Semitism. 280 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 2: I say no, no, no, They're over seven hundred million 281 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 2: Christians around the world who stand with Israel, who pray 282 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 2: for Israel, and who are providing food and shelter for Israel, 283 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 2: just as the Bible prescribes feed the hungry, clothe the naked, 284 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 2: shelter the poor. And that movement in Israel, of what 285 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 2: it's igniting in people's hearts, this feeling of oh, okay, 286 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 2: it's the same anti Semitism, but times have changed because 287 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 2: the Christian community has woken up. For me, that is 288 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 2: the most inspiring thing to see. 289 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: Quick break more on this important topic, stay tuned. You know, 290 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: it's just about standing up for what is right. And 291 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: as you pointed out, if you can dehumanize one group 292 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: of people, you know you could do that to anyone. 293 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: So it really is just about standing against you and 294 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 1: standing up for what is good and righteous. I mean, 295 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: how has this been for you to be on this 296 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: journey to be able to I mean, because the International 297 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: Fellowship of Christians Jews, I mean, you guys do such 298 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: good work. I mean, you truly have helped so many people. 299 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: You've saved lives throughout Israel. So how has this been 300 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: for you personally to be able to spearhead that mission 301 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: and just to help so many people over these past 302 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 1: few months and beyond that too. But you know, obviously 303 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 1: we're talking about this in the context of the terror 304 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: attacks in the aftermath, So you know, how has this 305 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: been for you to to be able to make that 306 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 1: kind of a difference and to be part of to 307 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: be a part of this. 308 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 2: Wow, Well, Lisa, it's been life changing and it's been 309 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 2: really the honor of my life. I've been working in 310 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 2: the Fellowship for over twenty years. My father at By 311 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 2: FELIXI and founded the Fellowship over forty years ago, and 312 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 2: I believe that we were called for such a time 313 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 2: as this. You know, when I think about all the 314 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 2: different impactful stories, think about on October seventh, when I 315 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 2: heard about the attacks, and the Fellowship, being the largest 316 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 2: philanthropic organization in Israel, is uniquely positioned that we have 317 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 2: warehouses of food, we have warehouses of bulletproof of vests 318 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 2: and helmets, we have volunteers on the ground in every 319 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 2: single city. And so on October seventh, as terrorists were 320 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 2: still roaming the streets, the government called the Fellowship and 321 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 2: said we need your help. Whatever you could do right now, 322 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 2: do And so, after having my own personal kind of 323 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 2: moment of breakdown of is this the end? Are my 324 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 2: children going to get kidnapped? Or terrorists going to come 325 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 2: into my house any second and take my children and 326 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 2: burn my house down? Is Israel not going to exist 327 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 2: any longer? And putting my kids and my husband in 328 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 2: the bomb shelter and going out, I felt like God 329 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 2: was called and all I heard God saying was go, go, 330 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 2: go go now. This is the time, and we're on 331 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 2: the border distributing bulletproof vests, and we were in those 332 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 2: bomb shelters bringing food. And when those people from the 333 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 2: Tibutsim were released, their family members killed and kidnapped. Those 334 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 2: lucky ones who survived, we were the first ones to 335 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 2: greet them and give them shoes and food. And I 336 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 2: remember watching live television as there was someone of one 337 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 2: of the first responders driving down south. This was October eighth, 338 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 2: as Terrists were still there, who was reporting from the 339 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 2: border of Gaza, inside of Israel towns, and all of 340 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 2: a sudden he came under live fire and he got 341 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 2: out of the car, but his phone was still on reporting, 342 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 2: got out of the car, got on the ground. He 343 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 2: was inside of high bushes and grass, and I realized 344 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 2: he's wearing a bulletproof helmet and vest that the Fellowship distributed. 345 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 2: It says on an international Fellowship of Christians and Jews, 346 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 2: and he's getting shot at on live television and on TV. 347 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 2: That vest saved his life, and I realized God is 348 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 2: working through us for this moment. I've seen children take 349 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 2: shelter in bomb shelter that we have provided in a 350 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 2: city like o Fakim. I saw the children go into 351 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 2: the bomb shelters, and then the bomb land right next 352 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 2: to it, and the bomb shelter is covered in trapnel 353 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 2: with holes in it that didn't penetrate because that shelter 354 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 2: was there and saved the children's life. An elderly Holocaust 355 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:22,959 Speaker 2: survivor I remember in Stot who all the time was evacuated, 356 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 2: but there were some elderly who said, I'd rather die 357 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 2: here by terrorists than live as an evacue So they 358 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 2: stayed in the city of Stot but everything was closed 359 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 2: because it was evacuated, so there were no grocery stores open, 360 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 2: no doctors, no neighbors to help, and so the fellowship 361 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 2: went every day and distributed meals to those five hundred elderly. 362 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 2: And I went and I sat with one of the elderly, 363 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 2: and she looked at me and she said, yeah, I'm 364 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 2: a Holocaust survivor. The Nazis killed my family and seventy 365 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 2: percent of them identified as Christian, and now it's Christians 366 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 2: who are coming and saving my life, bringing my food 367 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 2: in a war zone during my final years. So for me, 368 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 2: those few stories and I could talk for hours summarize 369 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 2: the privilege and blessing that I feel to represent Christians 370 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 2: in Israel. 371 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: Especially obviously there's a lot of uncertainty for Israel right now. 372 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 1: We saw recently has launched an attack that you know, 373 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: killed twelve children and teens on a soccer field. Tensions 374 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: have increased, and you know a lot of uncertainty about 375 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: how broad of a war in the Middle East this 376 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: will turn into and what that means for the rest 377 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: of the world is you know, and most specifically Israel 378 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,479 Speaker 1: are how are you guys preparing right now? And how 379 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 1: do you prepare with you know, that kind of uncertainty. 380 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's I think it's such a good 381 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 2: point how the whole world is changing right now. I 382 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 2: saw someone yesterday talk about if there is a week America, 383 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 2: Iran will at tech Israel, Taiwan, China will take over Taiwan, 384 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 2: Russia will take over parts of Europe that we are 385 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 2: so interconnected. Whoever looks at this as an Israel issue 386 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 2: is missing the whole picture that there is a shift 387 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 2: and radical Islam and other extreme forces are trying to 388 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 2: take over the Western world and this war against Israel 389 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 2: is the same war against America, and so it is 390 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 2: incredible to see how America is standing with Israel right 391 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 2: now and has been since October seventh. There are many 392 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 2: opinions of what America could do, and should do and 393 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 2: shouldn't do, But I think the overall message is still 394 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 2: America recognizes not only that Israel is America's greatest ally 395 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 2: and America is Israel's greatest ally, but that we need 396 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 2: each other, that we're fighting the same war, and if 397 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 2: something God forbid, what happen to Israel, America would be next. 398 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 2: America would not be safe. And so we're preparing in 399 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 2: many ways. I leave the government work to the to 400 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 2: the people and the government with thank God. I'm a 401 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 2: humanitarian aid worker. I'm not a government official, and so 402 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 2: what we're doing is the humanitarian side. Just yesterday I 403 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 2: was at one of the most key locations in Israel 404 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 2: electric poles that provide over seventy percent of electricity to 405 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 2: the people of Israel. And we know, in this tiny 406 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 2: country of Israel the size of New Jersey that Hasbella 407 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 2: Terrists have thousands of precision missiles, hundreds of thousands of missiles, 408 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 2: and thousands of precision missiles, and many of them appointed 409 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 2: exactly at that station that provides seventy percent of electricity 410 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 2: to Israel, and so we went to the hospital that's 411 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 2: right near it, We went to the homes of elderly 412 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 2: that are right near it, We went to the bomb shelters, 413 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 2: and we provided them with enough aid that for at 414 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 2: least three days they'll be able to be self sufficient 415 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 2: in the event of those electric poles getting hit. So 416 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 2: it's providing the basics of water, a food, of hospital beds, 417 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 2: all those what we think of. I think in the 418 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 2: privileged West that we would never think, oh, a six 419 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 2: pack of water could be the difference between life and death. 420 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 2: That's what the people of Israel right now are preparing for. 421 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 2: And so the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews have 422 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 2: volunteers on the ground right now in every single city, 423 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 2: working around the clock and against the clock, because an 424 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 2: attack could break out in a minute, in an hour, 425 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 2: or in a day, that we are working as if 426 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 2: there's no time, in order to save as many lives 427 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 2: as possible. 428 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: Now, you know, and I think it's important in the 429 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: media to you know, tell the truth about, you know, 430 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: what is happening. I was pretty appalled that the Israeli 431 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: government had to show the media over forty minutes of 432 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: raw footage of the terror attacks, just to get them 433 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: to cover it honestly and to see the truth for 434 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: what it was. You know, we see the media sometimes 435 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 1: just take what the Gaza Ministry Health or the Gaza 436 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 1: Health Ministry says is true despite the fact that you know, 437 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: Hamas is a complete control of the government. So that's 438 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: just you know, Hamas propaganda. So important to get the 439 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: truth out there when there seems to be an intention, 440 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: you know, an intent to deny what is truth. 441 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 2: I think it's so spot on, and there are so 442 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 2: few people that are doing it. We know it's documented 443 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 2: both by US and by HAMAS, that they're using human shields, 444 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 2: that they're storing their weapons and UN schools, that they're 445 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 2: launching rockets from hospital roofs, that the hostages are being 446 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 2: they're being abused in the hospitals inside of Gaza. It 447 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 2: is a fact documented that you can't even challenge that 448 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 2: there were UN workers that were part of the October 449 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 2: seventh attacks inside of Israel. That what's happening is very clear. 450 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 2: There's one side who are declared terrorists and another side 451 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 2: that is democratic country that lives and breathes and implements 452 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 2: all the different precautionary measures in order to try to 453 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 2: help save civilian lives. I remember, in the beginning of 454 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 2: the war, of one said, you can't go for the 455 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 2: terrorists who are embedded in civilian towns. You have to 456 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 2: evacuate the civilians. So Israel evacuated the civilians through thousands 457 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 2: of notes on their roofs telling them to evacuate because 458 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 2: there are Hamas terrorists there. In Israel's only focusing on 459 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 2: the terrorists. And then when the civilians evacuated, first of all, 460 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 2: Hamas terrorists were shooting at many of them and killed 461 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 2: many of them for evacuating because they wanted to use 462 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 2: them as human shields. And number two, the international world 463 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 2: suddenly said, oh, you're kicking them out from their homes. 464 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 2: You can't do that. That Israel is stuck between a 465 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 2: rock and a hard place when the other side is 466 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 2: using human shield So I think it's very important to 467 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 2: recognize the Israel side that cherishes life, that sanctifies life, 468 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 2: even of our enemies. We have enough bumbs to destroy 469 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 2: guys if we wanted to, but instead we're putting our 470 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 2: soldiers on foot there to weed out the terrorists in 471 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 2: order to save lives of our enemies. Versus our enemies 472 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 2: who are launching rockets into civilian cities, into Arab cities 473 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 2: in Israel. That attack that you were talking about, where 474 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 2: thirteen innocent children were killed while they were just playing soccer. 475 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 2: They were on a soccer field, just like you have 476 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 2: in America and Europe and everywhere else, playing soccer on 477 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 2: a Saturday afternoon. Well, the terrorists targeted that city and 478 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 2: Arab city in Israel and killed thirteen children. That it's 479 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 2: not hard to see, just like you were saying earlier, 480 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 2: without the lens of anti Semitism, it's very clear what's 481 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 2: right and what's wrong. It's very clear who's the enemy 482 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 2: and who's the one defending life and values. When you 483 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 2: bring anti Semitism into the mix, suddenly killings are justified, 484 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 2: rapes are justified, and we need heroes like you Li 485 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 2: said to get the word out. 486 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: Well, you're the hero, you know, on the ground doing 487 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 1: important work, and I know you've got a lot of 488 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: work ahead of you. Is there anything else you'd like 489 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: to leave us with before we go. 490 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 2: Well, I just want the people, especially in America to know, 491 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 2: and Christians around the world, how much we appreciate your 492 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 2: friendship and how this will be written in the history 493 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,719 Speaker 2: books of Israel, the Jewish people, I believe, also America 494 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 2: and the world we still today all tell the stories 495 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 2: of the heroic Corey ten boots and those who risked 496 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 2: their lives to go against what was popular during the 497 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 2: Holocaust in order to stand with what is right, what 498 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 2: is just, and what's holy in God's eyes. And today 499 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 2: we have millions of Corey ten booms. And I'm so 500 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 2: honored on the ground in Israel every time I distribute 501 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 2: a food box and save a life, and place a 502 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 2: bomb shelter, and provide ambulance that is bulletproof and shrapnel 503 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 2: proof that can operate during war under rocket attack. And 504 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 2: I say, in all these situations, these are from Christians 505 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 2: who love you. These are from Christians who love you. 506 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 2: That the people of Israel will never forget the silenced majority. 507 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 2: And actually how you found a way while being silenced, 508 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 2: to make your voice so heard by saying we stand 509 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 2: with life. We pray for the peace of Jerusalem. 510 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: And I appreciate that, you know, showing love at a 511 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: time when you know there is so much hatred as well. 512 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: You know, we appreciate what you do. We appreciate you 513 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: joining the show. I know you've got you're a busy 514 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: woman doing really important work, so we appreciate you coming 515 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: on here and you know, just giving us some insight 516 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: into to what it's been like and what you guys 517 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: are the work that you're accomplishing. So we really appreciate you, 518 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: appreciate your time. 519 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Lisa, And for anyone who wants 520 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 2: to get involved, even just one food box forty five dollars, 521 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 2: you can go to www dot IFCJ dot org and 522 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 2: if you want to see what we're doing on a 523 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 2: daily basis, where I am in the field the people 524 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 2: of Israel, the human side, you can follow me on 525 00:29:58,560 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 2: all social media. 526 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you so much. We appreciate it. 527 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,959 Speaker 2: Thank you, Lisa, God bless you, God bless you. 528 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: That was Yale Exstein, the President and CEO of the 529 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. Appreciate her for coming 530 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: on the show. Obviously she's surrounded by enemies right now 531 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: in Israel, you know, doing great humanitarian work and it's 532 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: a scary time, so appreciate her for taking the time. 533 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: Appreciate you guys at home for listening every Monday and Thursday. 534 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: But you can listen throughout the week. I want to 535 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: thank John Cassio and my producer for putting the show together. 536 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: Until next time.