WEBVTT - Holocaust Humor

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<v Speaker 1>Holocaust humor. It's one more thing. I'm one more thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm pretty uncomfortable where this might be going.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah no, oh.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah me too, And I know where it's going. Uh,

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<v Speaker 4>this is oh should I this almost gives it away.

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<v Speaker 4>This is a really good companion piece with something we

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<v Speaker 4>did on the radio show today, Slash Podcast. But I

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<v Speaker 4>can't say what I realized. I would give it away.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just going to go through this.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's a plot twist this is I'm quoting. Who

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<v Speaker 1>is this?

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<v Speaker 4>I like to give credit Susie Weiss, who writes for

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<v Speaker 4>a handful of people, including.

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<v Speaker 1>The Free Press. She says, it's my duty.

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<v Speaker 4>To report that there's a new musical called Slam Frank,

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<v Speaker 4>a satirical Hamilton style show that imagines Ann Frank of

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<v Speaker 4>the Diary of Anne Frank Fame. Okay, everybody you familiar

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<v Speaker 4>the diary Vent Frank, teenage girl hiding with her family

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<v Speaker 4>from the Nazis in Amsterdam in the attic of a home. Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>And and they were ratted out, discovered and all died.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the whole family died.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe one person survived, but and Frank, who was was

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<v Speaker 4>killed by the Nazis.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 4>So there's a new musical Jewish yes exactly, Yes, Twitter

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<v Speaker 4>influencers who I won't get into a fight with anyway. Uh,

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<v Speaker 4>there's a new musical called Slam Frank, a satirical Hamilton

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<v Speaker 4>style show that imagines Anne Frank as LATINIX, her story transformed,

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<v Speaker 4>translated and transgendered into something new in it, Frank and

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<v Speaker 4>her family and the von Dans, the other family the

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<v Speaker 4>Franks hid in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Att with during the Holocaust.

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<v Speaker 4>Quote combat stigma, like their dodging bombs and practice self

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<v Speaker 4>care to repair from these air raids. Those are quotes

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<v Speaker 4>from the musical. When they're not singing about how there's

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<v Speaker 4>more than one way to be an ally, the characters

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<v Speaker 4>are coming out Peter van Dana's non binary otto, Frank

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<v Speaker 4>is gay and neurodivergent, and Ann herself is pan sexual

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<v Speaker 4>and talking about white male privilege.

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<v Speaker 1>I give I quit. I seriously quit. I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that as an attitude just in general.

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<v Speaker 1>I quit.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't force me to listen to this, all right,

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<v Speaker 4>there's one more bit build as an intersectional, multi ethnic,

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<v Speaker 4>gender queer, decolonized, empowering Afro Latin hip hop musical, Slam

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<v Speaker 4>Frank is meant to explore the idiocies of the woke movement,

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<v Speaker 4>which is a rare thing to see on stage now,

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<v Speaker 4>By the way, Susie says, it's wild at point, it's

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<v Speaker 4>genuinely daring and fun and funny, but it doesn't really work.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just too awful.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's kind of like the Well, it's different than

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<v Speaker 2>the Producers. The Producers was meant to fail for monetary reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>But so this reminds me of Katie. Just hang on

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<v Speaker 1>a second.

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<v Speaker 4>But Jack brought us this idiotic piece in the Atlantic

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<v Speaker 4>about how the movie Jaws fifty years later was actually

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<v Speaker 4>a daring exploration of class division and income, income inequality

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<v Speaker 4>and shit like that and scary Sharko was going to

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<v Speaker 4>bite your legs off, right, And Noah Rothman of the

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<v Speaker 4>National Review wrote a hilarious parody of that.

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<v Speaker 2>But yes, Michael, I was just remembering that I saw

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<v Speaker 2>Jaws as my dad, he said, as we were watching

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<v Speaker 2>in the theater, talking about income and quality.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, he caught it. Yeah, memory, I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 4>And the key to it was that the Noah Rothman

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<v Speaker 4>parody of the Atlantic piece was indistinguishable from the Atlantic piece.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, these people are so absurd, Katie, Oh this whole thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm I just went to the website for this slam

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<v Speaker 3>Frank and the poster for the play. Yeah, clearly Ai

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<v Speaker 3>because for some reason AI doesn't have the hands right yet.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is.

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<v Speaker 3>And Frank, she's got the star of David patch like

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<v Speaker 3>they made the Jews wear during the Holocaust. And she's

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<v Speaker 3>got headphones on standing at a DJ booth DJing.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh lord, oh lord.

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<v Speaker 4>So again this is it's barely exaggerated enough, right to know.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it was probably when I started giggling reading

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<v Speaker 4>it that some some of you good folks started to

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<v Speaker 4>suspect that something was up here, because you couldn't tell

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<v Speaker 4>until I got almost to the end.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it could have gone either way.

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<v Speaker 1>Could could have been mocking, it could have been real.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't tell.

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<v Speaker 4>So here's here's how the idea for the show began.

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<v Speaker 4>The guy who wrote it and what is his name?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't remember, I'll mention her Fox.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>He was on Twitter and there was one of those

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<v Speaker 4>gd Twitter debates. This is in twenty twenty two, over

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<v Speaker 4>whether Ann Frank ever acknowledged her white privilege for real.

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<v Speaker 4>It wasn't parody that was for real and so yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>there's a name. Andrew Fox grabbed the bit and ran

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<v Speaker 4>with it far. The result is an over the top

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<v Speaker 4>off Broadway spectacle which spares no sacred cows and raps

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<v Speaker 4>about being from the barrios of Frankfurt and her dad

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<v Speaker 4>can't focus when an SS officer is in derogating him

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<v Speaker 4>because of his attention deficit disorder, et cetera. Extention, and

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<v Speaker 4>the show is about the incoherence the far left worldview.

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<v Speaker 4>The actors screamed down with capitalism in the same breath

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<v Speaker 4>advocate for more black CEOs, yeah, which is a pretty

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<v Speaker 4>good twist. H And the best lines come during a

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<v Speaker 4>song towards the end, when the ensemble sings quote, the

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<v Speaker 4>oppressors have been lurking here among us, and tomorrow we'll

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<v Speaker 4>see that they're purged in, they're dealt with at last.

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<v Speaker 4>It's unclear at that point whether they're talking about Nazis

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<v Speaker 4>or the Jews, who've been recast as oppressors in recent years.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, if you're talking about purging, it raises the

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<v Speaker 4>question could you be doing some oppressing yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway?

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<v Speaker 2>I like Katie's take, I quit that should be a

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<v Speaker 2>T shirt. Just like the modern world. I quit, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's not I'm gonna commit to U side.

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<v Speaker 1>I just quit.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to engage in the modern world anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm done with this right, Well, what about globalizing the

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<v Speaker 4>INTI no I quit.

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<v Speaker 2>I quit quit a long time ago. Not enough black

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<v Speaker 2>people women Graham.

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<v Speaker 1>Out, So she says.

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<v Speaker 4>It's gleeful in its offensiveness, but not to any particular end.

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<v Speaker 4>There's only one note though. Admittedly it's struck. Admittedly it's

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<v Speaker 4>struck impressively, But when I left, I wasn't sure what

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<v Speaker 4>I was supposed to feel besides entertained. I tell you what, David,

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<v Speaker 4>David Fox, keep tweaking it, keep working on it, like

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<v Speaker 4>what you're going for here. There needs to be so

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<v Speaker 4>much more mockery like this and Noah Offman's piece, And

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<v Speaker 4>Noah's a very serious guy. But the power of mockery

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<v Speaker 4>and humor in changing minds, in changing or motivating political movements,

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<v Speaker 4>in knocking down political movements. I've been fascinated by that

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<v Speaker 4>since I was a kid. It's probably why I do

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<v Speaker 4>what I do. Great arguments matter, having the guns matters.

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<v Speaker 4>But if everybody's laughing at somebody you win.

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<v Speaker 2>The nineteen thousand word article in the Atlantic is what

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<v Speaker 2>Jaws got wrong. It portrays class divisions in a way

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<v Speaker 2>that anticipated a fight that has defined American politics since

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<v Speaker 2>twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Was that what Jaws was about? You people are effing hilarious, right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I was breaking down Caddyshack. We have Ted Knight, who

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<v Speaker 1>expressed white privilege.

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<v Speaker 2>And in the scene in Caddyshack when Bill Murray gets

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<v Speaker 2>struck by lightning in a thunderstorm, early climate change, well, brilliant,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that's it.