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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where the Summer of Connie never

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Speaker 1: really ends.

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Speaker 2: I hate that it has to, but it kind of does.

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Speaker 3: We're back.

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Speaker 1: We're in the Chris Westling podcast studio, and I'm with

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Speaker 1: my friend Colleen Wilf.

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Speaker 2: Hey, so great to see you.

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Speaker 4: I can't believe, first of all, that you're even here

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Speaker 4: right now with the jet lag that you probably are experience.

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Speaker 1: We're good, My god, we're warming up, we're feeling alive.

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Speaker 1: You're telling yourself that we're seeing you know, we're doing

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Speaker 1: a show together. I was thinking we this is a first,

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Speaker 1: but you reminded me way back in the NFL Digital

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Speaker 1: NFL nowadays, we used to do that.

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Speaker 4: Kind of stuff all the time, like ten years ago

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Speaker 4: and ten years ago.

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Speaker 1: It's been a minute, and that's going to be part

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Speaker 1: of one of my awkward.

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Speaker 2: Truth Oh no, it is okay.

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Speaker 1: Not exactly NFL now, but just the passage of time.

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Speaker 1: So we're going doing things a little bit differently. We

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Speaker 1: usually start with a big chunk of news, right there,

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Speaker 1: really wasn't great news today, and the news that we have.

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Speaker 1: All the teams are reporting to training camp so they

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Speaker 1: they'll start practicing on Wednesday, and the news will really

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Speaker 1: pick up from there, but most of the news we

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Speaker 1: had we decided we could kind of fold in, so

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Speaker 1: it's all happening. You're going on the road, I am.

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Speaker 4: I was thinking this morning, like, when is Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 4: going to do something, because Tuesdays is usually the Aaron

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Speaker 4: Rodgers day in terms of news, but we didn't get it. So, yeah,

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Speaker 4: you're right, it's really just training camps, and I'm going

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Speaker 4: on the road.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited about it.

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Speaker 4: I am heading up close one first, going to Oxnard

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Speaker 4: for Cowboys training camp, and we're gonna talk about Cowboys

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Speaker 4: a lot today after Jerry Jones had a lot to say.

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Speaker 4: Then I'm going to Philly, very pumped about that. Philly

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Speaker 4: to Denver, yeah, oh, get to talk to my guy

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Speaker 4: Sean Payton. And then I was supposed to go to

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Speaker 4: New York for Giants training camp, but I don't know

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Speaker 4: what how and all of a sudden, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Not going to Giants.

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Speaker 4: So wow, going back to Philly and then to Washington

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Speaker 4: are you can't imagine why.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to suggesting that maybe your anti Giants

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Speaker 1: agenda on this very show impacted that way.

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately, none of them listened. To NFL Daily.

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Speaker 1: But I do thank NFL Network for sending me like

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Speaker 1: five new NFL Network polos, even though I'm not on

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Speaker 1: inside training camps.

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Speaker 3: Take the shirts. They're great gifts.

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Speaker 2: Are they the Tommy Bahama one?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're nice, they're breathing, They're nice and nice little

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Speaker 1: zip up. So, yes, we're going to go through awkward

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Speaker 1: truce in the NFL. You mentioned the Broncos. They're they're

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Speaker 1: Cowboys they are as well. I don't like to think

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Speaker 1: of us as awkward people.

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Speaker 2: Do you mean?

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Speaker 1: We absolutely are, But I think other people feel awkward

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Speaker 1: around us, but we're just being us.

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Speaker 2: That's true. I mean that's on them.

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe on the inside we are. I will let

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Speaker 4: I was just thinking, like, I am so incredibly awkward

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Speaker 4: at saying goodbye to people. Yes, it's it's one of

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Speaker 1: We both are awkward. I guess I need that podcasting.

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Speaker 1: We'll find out.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So the awkward truth about the Bengals is their

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Speaker 4: They have a rich history of mishandling personnel and contracts.

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Speaker 4: They are never proactive, They're always just reactive. They've mishandled

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Speaker 2: Which is obviously the issue right now.

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Speaker 4: And we know Trey Hendrickson he got an offer that

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Speaker 4: But it's a pattern from the organization that is all

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Speaker 4: And you have first round pick Shamar Stewart who's also

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Speaker 4: So they didn't invest in the offensive line until Joe

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, that's a trigger.

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Speaker 2: Now, it's like telling someone to relax.

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Speaker 1: Now. On one hand, I thought, oh, that's gonna get

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Speaker 4: I feel like that Jender quard upling down on how

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Speaker 1: He did post on ig Trey Hendrickson, and we knew

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Speaker 3: So he's he's out. That is kind of emotion, but.

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Speaker 4: I like it, but also like, yeah, he without Trey Hendrickson,

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Speaker 1: Owed, right, and they said he deserves a raise, and

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Speaker 1: Watt, who's in the division, is also over thirty. Like Hendrickson,

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Speaker 1: We were we were texting yesterday, met him and his

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Speaker 1: up on my computer here, and he you say, like,

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Speaker 1: every single year. It's comical at this point, missed the

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Speaker 1: playoffs last year because Chase sat out and then looked

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Speaker 1: like the first two weeks. Now the same with Hendrickson

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Speaker 2: I can almost hear Wes saying that, Okay.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Nick, for not having you on to say that.

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Speaker 1: I'm also sorry to Eric for having to bleep all

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, wow, I'm so sorry to the Westlings and

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Speaker 4: to all Bengals fans out there what you have to

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: And so I really like this being the first choice

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Speaker 3: Like, that's not true.

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Speaker 1: And then we get here and it is just an

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, and you just went through this last year

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Speaker 2: He's a captain, he's.

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Speaker 4: A leader on the team, So you're not just taking

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Speaker 2: But I just like, I can't believe they operate this way.

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Speaker 4: They always start slow, and now with this, you have

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that defensive end position we talked about in the

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Speaker 1: So I believe the Bengals edge group was number five

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Speaker 3: All right, my first awkward truth.

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Speaker 1: Okay, this is more of like a big picture of

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Speaker 1: to the FDN Almanac. We're gonna have the writer that

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Speaker 1: later this week, used to be Football Outsiders.

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Speaker 3: I think they're the best in terms of analytics.

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Speaker 1: Went to see what their numbers were, and it's very

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Speaker 1: And here are just some percentage the Lions, according to

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Speaker 1: FDN Almanac, have a twelve point one percent chance.

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Speaker 1: The Buffalo Bills, I think we're second or third most likely.

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Speaker 4: Well, I guess the truth is like we're gonna have

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Speaker 3: They are relevant no matter what.

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Speaker 4: Well, I just think with the roster turnover and Mike

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Speaker 1: Who is who is paid quite a bit more? I

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Speaker 1: mean I know that you could make that argument for

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Speaker 1: Jordan Love. Xavier McKenney. Yeah, maybe is the best player

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Speaker 1: on the Packers. Wow, there's a case. There's a solid

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Speaker 1: case for Zach Tom. Not like a super top heavy team.

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Speaker 4: Well, Zach Tom, first of all, is not going to

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Speaker 4: get the love that he deserves because he's an offensive lineman.

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Speaker 3: We're giving it to him.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, exactly, that's what this show gives you something

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Speaker 4: that no one else will. Zach Tom, this one's for you.

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Speaker 2: Also, the name Tom, it's just sort of two first names.

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Speaker 1: It's just so it's like seven letters. Let's try a

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Speaker 1: little harder, like.

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Speaker 3: The whole thing.

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Speaker 2: I would think, well, you know what, let's simplify things.

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Speaker 1: It's just sort of maybe it's not forgettable. It's just

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Speaker 1: Zach Tom. It's just it hasn't really caught fire. Remember

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Speaker 1: David Baktiari, Like that's a that's an all pro left

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Speaker 1: tackle type of name.

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Speaker 2: Zach Tom plays on the right side. But Zach Tom.

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Speaker 1: I think that's part of the reason he hasn't caught

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Speaker 1: That's the national.

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Speaker 2: He's been good for like three straight years.

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Speaker 1: He's been good. He's been getting better and better. A

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Speaker 1: young player, by.

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Speaker 2: The way, rather his name be Tom Zach Thana Tom.

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Speaker 3: No, Zach Tom's better.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's take a quick break, and we have been

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Speaker 1: flirting with talking about the Cowboys. We are going to

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Speaker 1: dive into the Cowboys a little bit back on NFL Daily.

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Speaker 1: Just a couple of little items. As the players are

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Speaker 1: showing up for training camp. Juwan Jennings is in camp

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Speaker 1: even though he asked trade. Kyrid Williams wants a contract,

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Speaker 1: but he is at camp. James Cook the Bills is

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Speaker 1: at camp. And part of it is the new CBA.

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Speaker 1: You kind of have to show up or you risk

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Speaker 1: not getting a year accrued. So the old hold it

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Speaker 1: right and we'll see if they practice. Michael Parsons, who

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Speaker 1: are about to talk about, is expected to practice and

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Speaker 1: he did show up to Cowboys training camp. And just

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Speaker 1: as we're coming back to break, we heard the news

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Speaker 1: that Ozzy Osbourne passed away at the age of seventy

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Speaker 1: six to rest in peace to one.

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Speaker 3: Of the reality show OG's.

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Speaker 1: I mean when that show came out, like MTV early

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Speaker 1: aughts that that was one of my favorite not that

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Speaker 1: he is an incredible musician, but one of my favorite

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Speaker 1: reality shows ever.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I watched it too. I feel like it was

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Speaker 2: a big part of MTV's lineup. It was on MTV.

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Speaker 1: It was like a formative Yeah, it was like a

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Speaker 1: formative reality show. There hadn't been quite the same sort

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Speaker 1: of like family like reality show.

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Speaker 2: Kelly had the pink hair and yes he was the leader.

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Speaker 1: Of Black Sabbath. My buddy Chris Babone reminds me, like

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Speaker 1: that is known.

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Speaker 3: For is his music.

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Speaker 2: He lived life to the fullest.

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Speaker 1: And that reminds me they had a farewell show for

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Speaker 1: him just a couple of weeks ago, and no, no,

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Speaker 1: that's great. I think the fact that he got to

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Speaker 1: experience it. Obviously, it's tragic, it's unfortunate that he died.

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Speaker 1: It's it's coming for all of us at some point.

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Speaker 1: But the fact that they got truth to celebrate him.

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Speaker 1: Hold that thought. The fact that they celebrate it, it always

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Speaker 1: makes me think, like all the great things that people

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Speaker 1: say and do about someone when they die, we should

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Speaker 1: you need to do that while the people are alive.

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Speaker 1: I even had an idea for like a podcast like

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Speaker 1: that we should just like celebrate someone that's actually still alive.

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Speaker 1: I love this idea while they're still alive and call it.

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Speaker 2: Like, no, we should have funerals for people that are still.

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Speaker 3: That's what I was gonna say.

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Speaker 1: It was called like I brought this up at this segment,

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Speaker 1: idea up to Emmica actually my wife, and it was

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Speaker 1: going to be like premature funeral and we just like

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Speaker 1: talk about how much we love someone you maybe even

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Speaker 1: have them on the show.

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Speaker 3: And she's like, you can't do that.

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Speaker 2: She said, no, she shut it down.

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Speaker 1: I throw it to the listeners. Well, that's sort of

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Speaker 1: what they did for Ozzy. Obviously they knew he was

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Speaker 1: not in great health and he got to go up

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Speaker 1: on the stage and like sit on a throne and

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Speaker 1: like he got to have that experience, which is which

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Speaker 1: is great.

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Speaker 2: A celebration of life while you're still living.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I don't think you need to wait until that

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Speaker 1: late or someone sick or something.

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Speaker 3: Let's do it.

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Speaker 2: Look at you being all sentimental today.

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Speaker 4: We're talking about living in the moment, telling people how

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Speaker 4: great they are before they die.

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Speaker 1: I think premature funerals. We got to bring those around.

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Speaker 1: We need a better Brandy, that's what we need. Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, let's let's talk about the the Jerry Jones comments.

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Speaker 2: So there were a lot of them.

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Speaker 1: They started Cowboys training camp as they always do, with

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Speaker 1: a big podium, and it's Jerry Jones, the owner Steven Jones,

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Speaker 1: who's more or less running the team as a GM

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Speaker 1: even though Jerry has the title, that's his son. And

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Speaker 1: then coach Brian Schottenheimer, and it's just hilarious. I've been

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Speaker 1: at this press conference up in Oxnard before, like it

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Speaker 1: was like Mike McCarthy's first year, and this is Brian

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Speaker 1: McCarthy's first year, and he gets he's just on the

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Speaker 1: side and he gets almost no questions, which is just

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Speaker 1: it's such a funny spot to be. But you know

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Speaker 1: that you just called him Brian McCarthy, by the way,

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Speaker 1: did I There is something to that, but Brian Schottenheimer.

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Speaker 1: Let's listen to part of the press conference, and this

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Speaker 1: press conference went all over the place where Jerry Jones

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Speaker 1: talks about Micah Parson's potential contract and brings it up

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Speaker 1: in the light of Dak Prescott's contract.

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Speaker 5: Just because we signed him doesn't mean we're going to

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Speaker 5: have him. He was hurt six games last year. Seriously,

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Speaker 5: we've signed a remember signed and a player for the

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Speaker 5: hass paid its position in the league, and he got

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Speaker 5: knocked out two thirds of the year Dak Prescott. Oh,

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Speaker 5: so there's a lot of things you can think about

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Speaker 5: when you just as the player does, when you're thinking

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Speaker 5: about committing and guaranteeing money.

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Speaker 3: First of all, it's factually incorrect.

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Speaker 1: Michael Barsons only missed four games Dak Prescott only missed

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Speaker 1: like a little over half the year, was not two thirds.

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Speaker 2: So Jerry Jones embellishing something, so.

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Speaker 3: Justin bellishing second.

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Speaker 1: It's it's so confusing because if you actually watch the

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Speaker 1: whole press conference, he he is very positive and complimentary

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Speaker 1: about Michael Barsons for the most part. So I do

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Speaker 1: think these quotes which are being passed around we'll talk

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Speaker 1: about that a little bit, like are only part of

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Speaker 1: the press conference.

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Speaker 3: And he calls Michael Parsons like.

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Speaker 1: One of the smartest business people as a player that

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Speaker 1: he's ever met, and all these stuff. Brian Schottenheimer like

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Speaker 1: started that clip that we you know, went to Jones

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Speaker 1: like by saying what an amazing player Michael Parsons is

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Speaker 1: and all this positive stuff, and then Jerry comes in

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Speaker 1: with that. But you just get the feeling that like,

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Speaker 1: at some point of all the talking, he's gonna step

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Speaker 1: into saying something and that's what's gonna.

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Speaker 4: Gets off well, and that's exactly what we're talking about here,

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Speaker 4: he said.

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Speaker 2: He rambled for a while.

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Speaker 4: There were I texted Jane Slater and I'm like, why

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Speaker 4: is he talking about dangling participles so much? Like I

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Speaker 4: And and then I'm like over here looking up dangling participles.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, do I understand the meaning of it?

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Speaker 3: No, this is it's more of a grammar term.

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Speaker 1: But he was using it in a way to just

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Speaker 1: say it doesn't bother him that certain things.

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Speaker 3: I actually got what he was talking about.

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Speaker 2: The contract. We're not gonna have any dangling participles.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean, that's like a grammar term.

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Speaker 1: But he's saying he doesn't mind going into training camp.

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Speaker 1: I think, if I'm trying to interpret Jerry, that there's

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Speaker 1: still situations ongoing, not everything is settled. The Micah Parson

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Speaker 1: contract is to him a dangling participle going into camp.

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Speaker 1: I think it's just a dangling issue. It doesn't really

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Speaker 1: make sense.

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Speaker 2: Not really a participle.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no.

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Speaker 4: But it does remind me of exactly what happened with

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Speaker 4: Ceedee Lamb and how Jerry was pretty dismissive over that

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Speaker 4: contract situation, and Ceedee Lamb is like retweeting clips of

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Speaker 4: Jerry Jones saying lol, like it's the.

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Speaker 1: Same exact thing, right, And that brings us to some

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Speaker 1: social media. So Jerry Jones knows this better than anyone,

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Speaker 1: Like perception is everything, and the perception of the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: has grown so much over the years as first America's

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Speaker 1: team and then just this behemoth that has become reality.

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Speaker 1: They really are the most valuable and the most watched

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Speaker 1: talked about team in the league. And my awkward truth

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Speaker 1: is that I hate to bring it to you, I

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Speaker 1: mean bring it up, but like, the Cowboys are actually

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Speaker 1: fascinating this year outside of this whole conversation, outside of

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Speaker 1: the normal drama, like the actual football team is fascinating.

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Speaker 1: I think that's actually awkward for all the people that

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Speaker 1: just complain about the Cowboys getting too much attention, because

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Speaker 1: to me, they are one of the most fascinating football teams.

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Speaker 1: I'll put a pin in that for a second, but

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Speaker 1: let's actually bring up what I was getting at in

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Speaker 1: terms of perception.

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Speaker 3: Here is a JJ Watt.

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Speaker 1: Tweet oh from Monday that Micah Parsons himself retweeted, and

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Speaker 1: jj Watt writes, anytime you can publicly take a dig

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Speaker 1: at your star quarterback and your star pass rusher simultaneously

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Speaker 1: right before the season begins, you just gotta take it.

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Speaker 1: Nothing makes guys want to fight for you more than

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Speaker 1: hearing how upset you are that they got hurt while

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Speaker 1: fighting for you, which is just a great tweet by

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Speaker 1: JJ Watt. I would love it if you brought that

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Speaker 1: energy to the CBS desk, I think, I mean it isn't.

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Speaker 4: He gonna be on the Oh yeah, he starts this year, right, he.

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Speaker 1: Was on the desk before, and maybe now he's doing

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Speaker 1: any more of the game.

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Speaker 2: Now he's doing the game.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 1: I feel like sometimes you get in those pregame shows

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Speaker 1: and you have the pre show meetings, and I want

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Speaker 1: to see that JJ Watt fire on the mic, because

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Speaker 1: then he'll be one of the greats. He did do

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Speaker 1: Christmas last year, and I thought he did a really

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Speaker 1: good job.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna be with Iron Eagle.

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Speaker 1: So JJ is saying all that, and Michael Parsons is

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Speaker 1: retweeting it, and now, no matter what else you said

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Speaker 1: in that press conference, JJ, that perception of that being

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Speaker 1: really the main thing that you said is now reality,

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Speaker 1: especially to the guy you're negotiating with.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why they do this. It's like Jerry

653
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Speaker 2: can't get out of his own way.

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Speaker 4: He loves to talk, and then he ends up like

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Speaker 4: slipping up and telling the truth a little bit, and

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Speaker 4: then that's what ends up getting him in trouble, and

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Speaker 4: that's not a way to start things out in camp.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I've had time I should shut up,

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Speaker 1: and I keep talking.

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Speaker 3: He literally said that. I'm quoting Jerry Jones.

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Speaker 1: He said in the press conference, I've had times that

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Speaker 1: I should shut up, And you know he's very self aware.

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Speaker 2: Greg, how much do you relate to Jerry Jones?

664
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Speaker 3: Not at all? I mean not at all.

665
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: This is a man who's like running a billion dollar business.

666
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: But I guess one way is he said in that

667
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: press conference about like, do you know much how I've

668
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: given up in my life to do this, I'm not

669
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: going to give up doing it. Essentially, this is the

670
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: thing that he loves. I try to have a much

671
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: better work life balance. My family is the most important

672
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: thing by far in my life. But I think that's

673
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: true for Jerry too, because he just brought them all

674
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: along with the business. So he's saying he's not going

675
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: to give up doing what's fun. I don't want to

676
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: stop doing this. This is this is fun. I do

677
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: I do relate to that?

678
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 2: Well.

679
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 4: I honestly, I was thinking yesterday after I listened to

680
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 4: the press conference, I'm gonna I'm going to miss these

681
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 4: press conferences from him because they are wildly entertaining for

682
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 4: all the wrong reasons.

683
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: The most interesting part of the press conference was me.

684
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: For me was something that wasn't picked up by just

685
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: about anyone. He made a little joke at once when

686
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,719
Speaker 1: talking about like well because I think they asked them

687
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: about why do you wait so long?

688
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 3: Then the price only goes up?

689
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: And he made a comment about well, like sometimes he

690
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: signed guys too early, like Trevon Diggs and Tarren Steele

691
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: who are on the twenty twenty five Dallas Cowboys. That's great,

692
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: I mean, that's goal.

693
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 2: What was he talking about?

694
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: Those guys haven't performed well since he signed him to

695
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,719
Speaker 1: those contracts. To be clear, he is saying, whoops, Yeah,

696
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: I made a mistake there.

697
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 4: Calling them out like just putting them on notice, and they've.

698
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 3: Just been hurt.

699
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 2: Really, it's just like that's rough for them.

700
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 4: He also was talking about getting like car accidents too,

701
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 4: and he was like, you can get in a car accident.

702
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 2: Like talking about long term deals.

703
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he was just saying, like, look, you

704
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: give these deals. Life is unpredictable. Anything can happen. That

705
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: is true, Speaking to what I was talking about in

706
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,479
Speaker 1: terms of loving what you do, because I do think

707
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones loves what he does. He was asked about

708
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,280
Speaker 1: possibly giving up the GM title in Dallas.

709
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 4: Has stepping away as general manager ever been even a

710
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 4: momentary consideration for you for the years?

711
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: Uh?

712
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 5: Yes, momentary moment.

713
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 2: Now we're getting down to it.

714
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 5: Small fractions of seconds.

715
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 4: The way that he says it too, all fractions of seconds.

716
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward.

717
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 1: He mentioned the Netflix documentary about him about Cowboys that

718
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: are coming out.

719
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to it.

720
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: If they do as good a job on that as

721
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: they did on The Cowboys Cheerleaders. Yeah show, which I

722
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: just watched over the last week. After you know, they

723
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: all got right recommend I'm actually got to save that

724
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: conversation for another day. I think it's it's fascinating, but

725
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 1: that show is awesome in the way that like Quarterback

726
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: is a total borer, boring snooze fest. Like there's stakes

727
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: and there's characters and everything's good about that show, and

728
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: Quarterback is like completely boring. They're just counting on, you know,

729
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,879
Speaker 1: the fact that it's Joe Burrow to carry you through.

730
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: So I'm looking forward to that. That Cowboys on fo

731
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: they got okay, So so he he's not technically the GM,

732
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: although he did clarify it from a question from our

733
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: colleague and your friend, our friend Jane Slater, that Stephen

734
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: Jones is the one talking to the agent and doing

735
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: the real negotiating. It's Jerry kind of at the end

736
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 1: just talking to Michael Parsons and the principles. So I

737
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: don't think he's doing the day to day stuff necessarily

738
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: on contracts.

739
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 2: Hey, Jerry made clear that he doesn't talk to lawyers,

740
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 2: Like I love that he doesn't talk to agents. He

741
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 2: doesn't talk to lawyers. He talks to the primary person.

742
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: So it's a long way of getting to to my

743
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: larger point, which is, yes, the circus is there, Yes

744
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: this is all happening, but actually this team is really interesting.

745
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: It's fascinating, and I think it has a way higher

746
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: ceiling than people realize. Like for some reason, I think

747
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: people are losing the idea that I think if they

748
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: have a very hard schedule, so that's a problem for

749
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: the entire division. But I think, like there is absolutely

750
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: a world where they are one of the two or

751
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: three best teams in the NFC.

752
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 2: Really, I think so.

753
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 3: Like why not.

754
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 1: They First of all, they won twelve games three straight

755
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: years like before last.

756
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 2: I like this as a really season prediction for you.

757
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: It's not even a prediction because I do think they

758
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,919
Speaker 1: have about as big of variants almost as any team.

759
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: It could go bad. It's the Cowboys. The things that

760
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: make them go bad could go bad. Okay, they have

761
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott right one of the when he's healthy, one

762
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: of the best quarterbacks in the league. They have a

763
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: young offensive line, which that's part of this whole variance thing.

764
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 1: But they have four like high draft picks, some of

765
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: who are really talented, all playing like that. Actually they

766
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: actually have a high ceiling for that offensive lane. They

767
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 1: have Cede Lamb. They have George Pickens that is an

768
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: not wild that's like an awesome TAANDAM and I like

769
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 1: Ferguson as their tight end. So right there, you're starting

770
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 1: on off It don't like running back at all, but

771
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: if you're going to be short at one position, and

772
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 1: then I went through it on the position battles. I

773
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: think if you go through their edge group and the

774
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: defensive line, and you could make an argument their edge

775
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: group if it all goes right, and it's a lot

776
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: of guys coming back from injury, young guys. It might

777
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: be as good a pass rush as like any team

778
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Wow, Now there's a lot of ifs.

779
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 1: Like the backs. You notice I didn't mention the secondary linebackers.

780
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: That doesn't look great, And like the coaches are new

781
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:31,479
Speaker 1: and all.

782
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 2: Is tough on that defense.

783
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 1: But like, that's a lot of like positives to me,

784
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: and guys I want to watch play football is kind

785
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: of the other part of it. Like I love watching

786
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons, He's so much fun play football. I love

787
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 1: watching Dak Prescott play football. I love watching Ceede Lamb

788
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: and George Like, to me, they they are really interesting

789
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: and the fact that they're to me so unpredictable they

790
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: actually are are the football side of it to me

791
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: is worth like a lot of discussion this year.

792
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 4: So you think that the Boys have a higher ceiling

793
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 4: than say, like the Commanders, Yes, way higher.

794
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,240
Speaker 3: I think they're a better team than the Commanders.

795
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, still are you gonna so are you putting

796
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:10,879
Speaker 4: Philly at the top?

797
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 2: Still that's vision and then Cowboys?

798
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: Yes, But I think if you look at the rest

799
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: of the NFC, I don't see like a reason why

800
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: the Cowboys couldn't think like, if things go right, we

801
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: can be the second or third best team in the NFC.

802
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: Obviously you're hoping for just things to go wrong with Philadelphia,

803
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: but on paper, they're obviously more talent.

804
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're the Cowboys.

805
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 2: I'm not saying you, well, I think too.

806
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 4: It's the NFC, so it's definitely nowhere near stack. So

807
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 4: when you say top three, top five, whatever, it sounds

808
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,760
Speaker 4: like that's way higher that it should be. But actually

809
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 4: you're right because depending on what happens with the Lions,

810
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 4: you have them, you have the Eagles, and then like,

811
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 4: where where are you going from there?

812
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: I think the obvious like one two going into the

813
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: years Eagles, Lions. We know that football historically hasn't been like,

814
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: hasn't been as consistent, although actually lately the good teams

815
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: have stayed great a little more consistently. And so yeah,

816
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: you got to put the Lines and Eagles there. But

817
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: to me, the Cowboys, in terms of what they have,

818
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: if it wasn't for all this other stuff mucking it up,

819
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: like Jerry Jones, I think there's a lot to believe in.

820
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 1: All right, give me, okay, last awkward.

821
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 4: Truth Okay, last awkward truth is I rescued myself as

822
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 4: a dog again.

823
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 2: Dog Kima is actually me.

824
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 4: I didn't realize it at the time, but I was

825
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 4: rescuing a very similar being. Out of all of the

826
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 4: dogs that were available at the pound, I got the

827
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 4: one that had way too much going on, way too

828
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 4: many ailments, was allergic.

829
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 2: To everything anxious. But Quima. I'm wondering if Keima is

830
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 2: like me, or am.

831
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 4: I actually like a Border Collie in Conan's body?

832
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 3: Because what a fascinating thing is.

833
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 4: If I don't have a job to do, I'll destroy

834
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 4: everything around me.

835
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 2: I get bored very easily.

836
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 4: I need a ton of stimulation, and if you don't

837
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 4: pay attention to me, I will make you pay attention

838
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 4: to me. I know I don't deserve a treat, but

839
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 4: I will still help myself to any and all treats

840
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 4: that I find. I'm constantly shedding. There's hair and bobby

841
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 4: pins all over the place. I have incredible fomo and

842
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 4: hate being left home alone when people are doing fun things.

843
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 2: The only thing I want is my backscratched.

844
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 4: I want to be showering compliments, told how good I

845
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 4: am and how smart I am, and how beautiful my

846
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 4: code is. And I want to be praised for doing

847
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 4: the most basic of things like sitting down, going to bed,

848
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 4: walking away from I shouldn't be playing with So I'm

849
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 4: a working dog, Greg.

850
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 3: Bravo.

851
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:52,760
Speaker 1: I was doubting at first because when I think of Keema,

852
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: you know, she's young.

853
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,720
Speaker 2: And well, okay, thanks.

854
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 3: That's not what I've meant. I just meant.

855
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,240
Speaker 2: Kima's young and she's a puppy nod.

856
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 1: And she's not behaved like she's had to be taught

857
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: how to live in society. And maybe this is what

858
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: a like the high school version of Colleen Wolfe was like.

859
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 1: But I don't think of I don't think of Colleen

860
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: wolf as someone that's going to be tearing up the

861
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 1: house like if the parents leave.

862
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 3: But maybe maybe they were.

863
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 2: I did get in trouble quite a few times for.

864
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 1: That, okay, so maybe that like was her, that's her

865
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: and her teenage.

866
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 4: My mom once found me in high school. I was

867
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 4: sleeping on the side of the house with a loaf

868
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 4: of bread. So that's kind of what it was like

869
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 4: for me in high school.

870
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 1: My mom once woke me up, like in in late March.

871
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,399
Speaker 1: It was like the first warm day of the year.

872
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: And she's like, Greg, come with me, and I was like, what,

873
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: it's like six fifteen in the morning. It was the

874
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: first warm day of the year. All the snow had

875
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: melted in the yard.

876
00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 2: What was under there?

877
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,720
Speaker 1: And he brings me outside and there's just tons of

878
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: empty beer cans and cigarette butts on my lawn from

879
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: like the huge party that I threw a month and

880
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: a half before.

881
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 3: While they were at it down.

882
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 2: You thought that you got off scott free.

883
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: I did, like they knew and I knew, and they

884
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: even made a joke of like the house is a

885
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: little too clean when they got home, and I was.

886
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,399
Speaker 3: Just like, haha, yeah, yeah, but that was about it.

887
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 3: And then a month and a half later, what was

888
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 3: the punishment? Like nothing? What?

889
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,280
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Greg, I got.

890
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 3: Away with murder.

891
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 1: I love this and it makes me love Kema even more.

892
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: But I gotta meet her. I haven't even you haven't

893
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: met her.

894
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 2: She's actually really good now.

895
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 3: I haven't even met her. I ring you're in.

896
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 2: I'm sure that won't be a problem at all.

897
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: Here, Okay, we're gonna have some breaking news actually right now,

898
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,919
Speaker 1: and then I will give my last awkward truth because

899
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be tough to pivot from that one.

900
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 3: Let's do it.

901
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: Some breaking news, Eric, and I apologize Colleen, you do

902
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 1: not know this is coming, but one of my favorite

903
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 1: players in the NFL over the last decade, Tyron Matthew,

904
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 1: is retiring from the league. Honey Badger, member of the

905
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints the last couple seasons and was expected

906
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: to be this season, has decided to retire. So happy,

907
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 1: happy trails to one of my favorites.

908
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 2: Wow.

909
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 4: I feel like with him, he was one of the

910
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 4: first players at his position. Maybe not one of the first,

911
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 4: but we were talking about what a hybrid he was

912
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 4: when he was in Arizona with brus Arians and that whole,

913
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 4: that whole situation there. But I just remember him being

914
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,919
Speaker 4: like such a different breed of player.

915
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 1: And so smart and so impactful when he was great.

916
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 1: I do have like a special affinity for players like this,

917
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 1: Like he was a little up and down and he

918
00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 1: had he had the two knee surgeries that he had

919
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: to recover from, you know, in college and then and

920
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: then in the in the pros, and he overcame it

921
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 1: to be one of the most impactful defensive players in

922
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: the league in twenty fifteen, he was already in his

923
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 1: third year. At that point, he was like a just

924
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 1: just to kind of paint the picker, like a defensive

925
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year Canada as a rookie. And then

926
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 1: he's coming back again from the injury and that twenty

927
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: fifteen Cardinals team, which was awesome and was one of

928
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: our favorite teams on the Around the NFL podcast, Like

929
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 1: he is a first team All Pro, gets this huge

930
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 1: contract and then unfortunately has to like go through it

931
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: all again. But when he was great, he was so

932
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 1: great and was like a true leader I think among

933
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 1: that team and among players, and was one of Chris Westling's, yeah,

934
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: all time favorite players. And since he's retiring, you know,

935
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 1: it's probably the last, you know, one of the last

936
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: times I can I can tell this story.

937
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 3: But like, you know, he he reached.

938
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 1: Out to Chris when Chris was going through his treatments

939
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 1: because he remembered how big of a fan Chris was

940
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,240
Speaker 1: as like a professional and just the great.

941
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 3: Chris wrote a really great.

942
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 1: Piece on NFL dot com about how great Tyron Matthew

943
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 1: was and that he deserves you know, rookie the you

944
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: know player the Defensive Player of the Year consideration and

945
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: all this stuff, and Tyron Matthew had like retweeted that

946
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 1: and remembered it, and he reached out to Chris when

947
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: he was going through everything, like just on DMS, not

948
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: trying to get attention or anything, and it was just

949
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: saying that he's pulling form and everything.

950
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 3: And he reached out to, you know, to Keisha after

951
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 3: Chris died.

952
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 1: I remember that, and you know, just one of them

953
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: dudes if I got a chance to interview him last

954
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 1: year at Saints training game, just one of them dudes

955
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: that it's just like a real one and an incredible,

956
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: incredible player.

957
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 2: Incredible player, incredible human.

958
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 4: I remember when he reached out to Keisha, and I

959
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,439
Speaker 4: just like, I mean, stock through the roof for him.

960
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 4: And I just feel like I can even still hear

961
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 4: Wes talking about how great of a player he was,

962
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 4: because Wes loved him so much, and I just think

963
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 4: about he kind of had like a huge impact on

964
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 4: the show back then too, like he was a big

965
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 4: part of.

966
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: It absolutely because you know, he had three first team

967
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 1: All pros, two in a row when he was with

968
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. So he goes to the Chiefs and he

969
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: gets a super Bowl title. Was kind of the missing

970
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 1: piece to that defense for the Chiefs if I'm doing

971
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 1: the years right. But that was twenty nineteen. Yes, that

972
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: was the Super Bowl victory over the forty nine ers,

973
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: and he really helped complete and improve that defense. He

974
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: was back the next year and was still great in

975
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: the year that they ended up losing at the end.

976
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: So he had all these different, you know, parts of

977
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 1: his career. Rehabbed his value when he was with the

978
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: Texans and made a really great impact there, and then yeah,

979
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: I was able to return home to the Saints the

980
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:56,720
Speaker 1: last couple of years.

981
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 3: So happy trails to.

982
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: One of our favorites. Yeah, Tyron Matthew. So that's that's

983
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 1: the end of his career. I've been thinking about I've

984
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: been thinking about, you know, careers and in life and

985
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,959
Speaker 1: this it's gonna sound dark, but it's not dark.

986
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:13,919
Speaker 3: No, it's not dark.

987
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 1: But the awkward truth, the awkward truth here is that statistically,

988
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: I am likely more closer to the end of my

989
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 1: life than the beginning of my life. Damn it, right, Okay,

990
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 1: log as you say it with a smile on your face.

991
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 3: It's just true.

992
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: Like, you know, the average age that that people lift

993
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: you and that's you know, and I'm forty five. I'm

994
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: forty six years old. Now that's just the truth. And

995
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 1: then I was doing the math on my way here.

996
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 1: And this is either my twenty second or twenty third season,

997
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: depending if you count. I did half a season when

998
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: I when I first started, I started like November one year.

999
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 3: Doing the NFL.

1000
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: And that is certainly more than half of like the

1001
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: NFL seasons that I would dem that I would be covering.

1002
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I hope I'm still covering in my sixties

1003
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: or whatever, but that it's not going to be like

1004
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: a yeah, it's not a business that normally allows or

1005
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 1: encourages that or whatever. And so that's that's just the

1006
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: awkward truth that I'm living with.

1007
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 2: Is this what sparked the idea for the segment?

1008
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 1: No, okay, it's actually the Cowboys for some reason, I

1009
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 1: just I just thought that the Cowboys being interesting was like,

1010
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 1: you know it.

1011
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 3: But I thought of this on the way into work.

1012
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're you're today. This Greg is very nostalgic. He's

1013
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 4: really like, I feel like your mindfulness is better.

1014
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,439
Speaker 3: Than I'm fine with it. And what I guess why

1015
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 3: I bring it up.

1016
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 1: Is dying is such an awkward topic for almost everyone, right,

1017
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: I don't think it necessarily should be. It's like the

1018
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: one thing that literally everyone has in common. Yeah, you

1019
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 1: know it is going to happen. And if you haven't

1020
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: had someone like close to you that died early or

1021
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: anything like that, then you are blessed. But you should

1022
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: be aware of that blessed because that is going to

1023
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 1: become you know, a big part of your life. And like,

1024
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: at some level you have to be kind of okay

1025
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 1: with that because you you know, don't have a choice.

1026
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: And I think like America and like are like we're

1027
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: much worse at this, I think than other societies have been.

1028
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 3: Like throughout history.

1029
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: Necessarily, I don't think you have to be as Yes, yes,

1030
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: I think like in other cultures, like it's more of

1031
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 1: a part of.

1032
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:37,240
Speaker 2: Death is a part of life.

1033
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 1: Like what you talk about and you understand it's just like, yeah,

1034
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: it is a part of life and the death of

1035
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: your career too.

1036
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 3: I was I was thinking about that a.

1037
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 2: Little bit, like are you saying that while looking I.

1038
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,320
Speaker 1: Was actually thinking about that with watching that Cowboys reality

1039
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: show because they only get five years, and that to

1040
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 1: me was like an extreme version. And I think about

1041
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 1: it all the time with athletes, like I don't think

1042
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: for us we can totally understand what they go through

1043
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: through knowing like what a finite timeline they have in

1044
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: their career choice that yes, you're rewarded for it in

1045
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 1: like football and stuff. Certainly not in every sport, but

1046
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: that like you know, Joe Burrow was talking about it

1047
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: too in that show, like you know, like he's in

1048
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: year five, He's like, you know, he knows he's got

1049
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: a finite timeline.

1050
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 4: So the window, the window is small, but it's also

1051
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 4: the wind that we have shelf life too, yes, And

1052
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 4: I would say that, yeah, I mean we are. We've

1053
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,879
Speaker 4: been doing this for quite some time, so we are

1054
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 4: closer to them than we are.

1055
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 3: To the beginning. That's the awkward truth.

1056
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: And I guess not to have like a lesson about

1057
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: it at all, but like I think you, I think

1058
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: it's like knowing that i've personally that actually gives me

1059
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 1: comfort to think about it and talk about it in

1060
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: a way because then you can like appreciate, like appreciate

1061
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 1: while you got it.

1062
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 2: You know, what we're doing.

1063
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 4: We're having a premature funeral for ourselves.

1064
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 2: Right now. Greg, I love working with you so much.

1065
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 4: You been one of my best friends over all of

1066
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 4: these years.

1067
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 2: You're so good at what you do.

1068
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 4: I'm so proud of you for launching the show and

1069
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 4: doing the full year of it.

1070
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 2: There was so much. You work so hard.

1071
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 4: You also have the life balance work life balance with

1072
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 4: your family, which I have no idea how to have

1073
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 4: any type of work life balance, So I really it's

1074
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 4: an inspiration. But I just think that you are an

1075
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 4: incredible human being and I love you.

1076
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 3: Greg. Oh my gosh, thank you.

1077
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 4: That was the premature funeral for Greg. You don't have

1078
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 4: to do this for me. I'm not a thank you anyway.

1079
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: No, The awkward truth is like for a lot of people,

1080
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 1: it's hard to like take compliments or take like a

1081
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: nice moment and just accept it.

1082
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 3: And I will.

1083
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: That's like something I would like to to improve upon.

1084
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 3: But it's true.

1085
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: We have had the chance to work together for so long,

1086
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: like ten plus years doing in that NFL. Now, so

1087
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 1: knowing that it's not going to last forever, I can

1088
00:51:56,360 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: actually appreciate this particular show on July twenty second, that's right,

1089
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, because who knows, who knows?

1090
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 3: Like Kyle Shanaan.

1091
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 1: Says, if we're going to get another one, we will

1092
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: have another NFL Daily.

1093
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 2: Oh my god, the show.

1094
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 4: I hope on the twenty third, They're never gonna let

1095
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,760
Speaker 4: us do a show together alone again.

1096
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 1: Louke Keikley is joining the show, Thank god. Jordan Rodrige,

1097
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 1: the athletic Heay also joining the show. And yeah, when

1098
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,399
Speaker 1: we're we're thinking about mortality, footballs back.

1099
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 2: Yeah,