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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Calllida Health.

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Speaker 2: All right, how's everybody doing here on Wednesday? Chris Brown,

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Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you. Welcome into One Bill's Live. Thanks

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Speaker 2: for making us a part of your afternoon as we

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Speaker 2: have a jam pack show for you today. Not only

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Speaker 2: did head coach Sean McDermott address the media prior to

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Speaker 2: practice today as the players are back out on the

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Speaker 2: practice field, so too did general manager Brandon Bean on

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Speaker 2: the heels of the trading deadline. We'll get to that

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Speaker 2: in just a little bit. I want to remind you

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Speaker 2: for foremost this week's game at the Dolphins presented by

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Speaker 2: a Ticketmaster, the official ticketing partner of the Buffalo Bills,

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Speaker 2: and we had a number of things go on this morning.

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Speaker 2: Nothing on the trade deadline concerning the Bills, obviously, but

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Speaker 2: there were some roster moves and there are some practice

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Speaker 2: updates as well. Bills practice updates presented by Leecom, your

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Speaker 2: Lake Erie College of Osteopathic Medicine. And this is not

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Speaker 2: news you're gonna want to hear, but there are eight

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Speaker 2: players for the Bills not practicing today and all pretty

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Speaker 2: much noteworthy players. Joey Bosa not practicing today due to

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Speaker 2: a wristalement suffered in the game. James Cook not practicing

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Speaker 2: today due to an ankle and foot injury. It was

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Speaker 2: on that play where he got bent back awkwardly at

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Speaker 2: the end of a run play. Finished the game, but

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Speaker 2: is sorted this week. Aj Epanessa not practicing. No injury

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Speaker 2: designation given there will wait till the Wednesday injury report.

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Speaker 2: Tarren Johnson still doing with the groin injury, not practicing,

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Speaker 2: Dai Kwon Jones, Shack Thompson, Joshua Palmer, all of whom

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Speaker 2: missed last week's game, still not practicing here on Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: and Terrell Bernard not practicing as well. As we said,

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Speaker 2: Bills made some roster moves. They signed defensive tackle Federian

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Speaker 2: Mathis from the practice squad to the active roster. He

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Speaker 2: played in last week's game looked pretty good at times.

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Speaker 2: They also signed ed rusher Kingsley Jonathan to the practice

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Speaker 2: squad after he had a tryout yesterday. Nickel corner to

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Speaker 2: Corey Couch also signed to the practice squad. He was

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Speaker 2: with the team back in training camp. To make room

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Speaker 2: on the practice squad, linebacker Jimmy Charlow was released and

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Speaker 2: the ratings are in for the Bills Chiefs game from Sunday,

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Speaker 2: and to no one's surprise, it killed Chiefs. Bills delivered

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Speaker 2: CBS its fifth best Sunday NFL game rating since returning

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Speaker 2: as an NFL partner in nineteen ninety eight. Almost thirty

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Speaker 2: one million viewers watched the game. That's also the best

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Speaker 2: Week nine game on CBS since Colt's Patriots in two

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Speaker 2: thousand and seven, when both of those teams entered that

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Speaker 2: game undefeated. The audience peaked on Sunday at thirty five

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Speaker 2: point two million viewers. Now you know why they protect

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Speaker 2: those games.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for those of you who don't know, that is

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Speaker 3: a big number.

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Speaker 2: That's a big number.

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Speaker 3: That's a fat number. That's a fat number. They're very

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Speaker 3: excited about that.

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Speaker 2: That's right. We do also need to go around the NFL,

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Speaker 2: which is presented by Kaleida Healthy, official healthcare system of

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Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills, and Bill Belichick and four other head

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Speaker 2: coaches who won Super Bowls are among the nine semi

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Speaker 2: finalists in the coach category for the Class of twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty six for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Belichick

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Speaker 2: is in his first year of eligibility after rule changes

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Speaker 2: put in place last year required coaches to be out

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Speaker 2: of the NFL for only one full season before being

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Speaker 2: considered for the Hall it used to be five years.

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Speaker 2: Two times Super Bowl champ coaches Tom Coughlin, Mike Shanahan,

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Speaker 2: and George Seaffert also advanced, along with another Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: winner in Mike Holngren. Ultimately, one coach will advance for

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Speaker 2: consideration for induction into the twenty twenty six Pro Football

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame class. Around the NFL, Injury Wise, Commander's

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Speaker 2: head coach Dan Quid said the team is sorting through

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Speaker 2: the medical opinions on Jaden Daniels, who suffered a dislocated

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Speaker 2: the team would announce a plan on how to proceed

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Speaker 2: with the elbow injury Daniels sustained after looking into various

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Speaker 2: though there remains some hope that Daniels can avoid surgery

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Speaker 3: And I think their problem came from overestimating how good

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Speaker 4: You know, they're just.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they try and play. You gotta play quarterback these days,

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Speaker 3: everything's different. You got to play quarterback like an athlete.

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Speaker 3: You got to tuck the ball once in a while,

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Speaker 3: That opens you up once in a while for a hit.

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Speaker 2: And he's taking something. He's taking some free agent cornerback

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Speaker 2: iss Sante Samuel Junior visiting with the Panthers. Samuel was

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Speaker 2: recently medically cleared after undergoing a spinal fusion procedure and

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Speaker 2: will begin visiting potential suitors starting with the Panthers. The

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Speaker 2: former Chargers star missed most of the twenty twenty four

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Speaker 2: this week. Chris Godwin, wide receiver, not practicing today, continues

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Speaker 2: Bucky Irving, their running back, has also been out virtually forever.

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Speaker 2: this point, if you're not gonna play this week, don't

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Speaker 2: play next week either when you play the Bills. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: right here in Orchard Park. Take your time coming back.

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Speaker 3: stuff going on. The Bills have ridden that roller coaster obviously.

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Speaker 3: I mean it was a big down for Michael Hoyt

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we didn't get the nature of his injury.

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Speaker 2: for you today and it will begin with general manager

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Speaker 2: Brandon Bean, who addressed the media. We'll get to his

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Speaker 2: the bottom of the hour, in about twenty two twenty

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Speaker 2: three minutes or so, we'll catch up with NFL Network

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Speaker 2: reporter Cameron Wolf. Obviously, he's based down in Miami, so

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Speaker 2: he does cover the Dolphins a lot. We'll get the

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Speaker 2: four to one one on the Dolphins this week, as

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Speaker 2: well as his thoughts on the trade deadline deals that

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Speaker 2: After practice in studio, we'll have one of the guys

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Speaker 2: who's playing like a bull in a china shop lately,

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Speaker 2: Reggie Gilliam, will join us here in studio. As the

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Speaker 2: Bills have the number one rushing offense in football and

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Speaker 2: the number one total offense in football for that matter,

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Speaker 2: and Reggie's had a big hand in it, so be

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Speaker 2: good to catch up with him. So that plus post

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Speaker 2: practice press conferences at the post practice podium, so plenty

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Speaker 2: want to begin with Bill's general manager Brandon Bean. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: no deals were made with the Bills on trade deadline day,

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Speaker 2: so Brandon Bean explains how this week leading up to

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Speaker 2: trade deadline day unfolded for the Bills and their personnel department.

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Speaker 2: So let's hear from Bill's general manager Brandon Bean right now.

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Speaker 6: The easiest way to ask it is just why the

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Speaker 4: It takes two to be able to do it. And

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Speaker 4: so yeah, we're competitive. We were always trying to not

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Speaker 4: just on the trade deadline. We're always looking. You know,

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Speaker 4: we've made I think the Amari trade last year. We

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Speaker 4: quite frankly, a lot of the conversations are, no, we're

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Speaker 4: And so if you go, if you guys just I'm

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Speaker 4: sure you guys have done it. Scroll all the names

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Speaker 4: do business. Now, we also have a cap. I can't

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Speaker 4: with with where we are on the cap. So there

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Speaker 4: are constraints. Just like when we go into free agency

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Speaker 4: and I try and warn hey, we're you know, we're

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Speaker 4: to work. There's time, there's conversations of can you eat money?

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Speaker 4: Which those deals had to be done. If they were

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Speaker 4: Monday at four. You can't, you know, It's one of

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Speaker 4: the things I wish the league would fix is where

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Speaker 4: you can do Some leagues allow you to do that,

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Speaker 4: to sign and trade. So there was certain players after

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Speaker 4: four o'clock Monday that I could no longer do. Another

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Speaker 4: part of that is we had a couple of conversions

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Speaker 4: a few more options. Once we realized some of them

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Speaker 4: We did not do those, but we had them ready

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Speaker 4: if we were able to consummate a deal. Unfortunately, it

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Speaker 4: And you'd it's easy to say it's not fantasy football.

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Speaker 4: And so those also are part of part of the format.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't mean we wouldn't do it, but you also have

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Speaker 4: Not really, I'm just looking at it if if there's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, that's Brandon Bean and I don't know

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Speaker 2: what you thought, Steve. We were both sitting there live

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Speaker 3: you put yourself in the GM spot and it's your

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Speaker 3: job to make the team as good as good as

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Speaker 3: you can. You want to help, and this man, this

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Speaker 3: is awesome. It's a chance to do it right. It's

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Speaker 3: trade deadline. Everybody's kind of got their antenna up. You're

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Speaker 3: making calls everywhere, and you don't get to help, right. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's got to be disappointing. I was surprised, he said.

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Speaker 3: He's admitted that he was surprised he couldn't get a

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Speaker 3: deal done. He was surprised, and I think probably it

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Speaker 3: sounds like from the reports and he didn't say anything

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Speaker 3: like this, but the reports say that there were a

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Speaker 3: couple of Division teams, most notably probably the Jets and

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Speaker 3: the Dolphins, that they didn't want to deal inside their division,

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Speaker 3: so which is not which is smart on their part.

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Speaker 2: There was also a report that they were talking to

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Speaker 2: the Titans about Calvin Ridley, and there were also reports

448
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 2: that they talked to the Raiders about Jacobe Myers. So

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Speaker 2: none of those things really materialized or came to fruition.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, he looked genuinely disappointed Bill's fans.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we always we've had the conversations about guys

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Speaker 3: in the division that we know, We've seen all of

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Speaker 3: Garrett Wilson and the like, and you know, Quinn Williams.

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Speaker 3: You know, even you kind of forget that the Jets

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Speaker 3: and Dolphins are never going to give you any edge

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Speaker 3: like that.

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Speaker 2: Well, especially when you're the team that's been at the

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Speaker 2: top of the division the last five years.

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Speaker 3: Right, that's right.

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Speaker 2: Ander, Now, for the chance to win a trip of

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Speaker 2: a lifetime to Super Bowl sixty, you and a guest

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Speaker 2: could represent Bill's Mafia in San Francisco for the Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl on February eighth. Andrew Today at Buffalo bills dot

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Speaker 2: Com Forward Slash Super Bowl Contest to win two Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl tickets, flights and hotel accommodations. Good luck and go Bills.

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Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here, but when we come back,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna be joined by NFL Networks national reporter Cameron Wolf.

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Speaker 2: Get some thoughts on him from him on the Dolphins

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Speaker 2: and on what went down on trade deadline day across

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Speaker 2: the league. That's next here on One Bill's Live. Stay

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Speaker 2: with us all right back here on One Bills Live

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Speaker 2: on a Wednesday, Chris Brown, Steve Taskier with you players

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Speaker 2: back on the practice field, though there are eight Bills

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Speaker 2: not practicing, and we're waiting to catch up with NFL

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Speaker 2: Network national reporter Cameron Wolf, who will help us out

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Speaker 2: with Bills Dolphins, and we want to get his thoughts

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Speaker 2: on what went down on trade deadline day? What was

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Speaker 2: the what was the one trade that surprised you the most, Steve,

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Speaker 2: either a because the player got moved or b because

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Speaker 2: of the compensation involved.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. It had to be.

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Speaker 3: The Sauce Gardner trade makes a lot of sense for

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Speaker 3: the Jets at one in seven the Colts, and this

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Speaker 3: is part of what fuels my thoughts about the trade

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Speaker 3: deadline as far as the Bills are concerned. I'm as

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Speaker 3: I was thinking about it driving in today, and we're

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Speaker 3: you know, this whole thing's happening, and I know, and

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Speaker 3: you know a lot of Bills fans are really disappointed,

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Speaker 3: and just you know, there's frustrated. I started thinking, most

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Speaker 3: Bills fans are of a mind that they allow the

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Speaker 3: desperation of the Indianapolis Colts, or the New York Jets,

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Speaker 3: or the Miami Dolphins, or the Tennessee Titans, or the

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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steelers, all these other teams that are making all

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Speaker 3: these trade aides. They allow the desperation of those teams

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Speaker 3: to erode their faith in their own roster. I mean,

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Speaker 3: this is the roster they started the season with, it

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Speaker 3: had at Super Bowl aspirations. Nothing's changed except the guys

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Speaker 3: getting hurt and coming back and getting hurt again and

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Speaker 3: coming back, and then another guy gets hurt and another

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Speaker 3: guy comes back. All of that stuff that goes on

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Speaker 3: every season. I would caution Bills fans, you know, not

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Speaker 3: to let that desperation of those other franchises alter the

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Speaker 3: faith you have in your team. This is a team

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Speaker 3: they've lost two games this year, one because they puked

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Speaker 3: on their shoes and turned it over three times to

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Speaker 3: the Patriots and got eleven penalties in the game. And

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Speaker 3: the Atlanta game where they showed up the team they

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Speaker 3: didn't know very well. Really tough matchup physically for the Bills,

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Speaker 3: and the Falcons were playing their Super Bowl. It's the

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Speaker 3: best game they've played all year. Now, they've won other games,

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Speaker 3: they played well in another game, but this was the best

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Speaker 3: game they played all year against the Bills in their

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Speaker 3: own building on Monday night. Those are the only two

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Speaker 3: games the Bills have lost. Their offense is absolutely humming

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Speaker 3: right now, humming, and their defense well, up until the

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Speaker 3: time Mike Hoyton snapped his achilles, their defense was coming

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Speaker 3: into form big time. I'm not I am not in

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Speaker 3: a spot where I'm as desperate as the Colts obviously are,

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Speaker 3: with the GM that's on the hot seat, or the

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Speaker 3: Jets having a fire sale, or the Cowboys trying to

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Speaker 3: sell tickets, or the Dolphins just trying to keep from

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Speaker 3: If the Dolphins traded every player on their team who

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Speaker 3: wanted out, their locker room would be empty. Nobody's saying

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Speaker 3: that publicly. You know that's what those guys are thinking.

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Speaker 2: Well, there was two Jets yesterday hoping to get out.

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Speaker 3: Of there, right, Breese Hall. We's talked about Breese Hall.

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Speaker 3: It came across it. He was going to get traded.

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Speaker 3: He got traded, but it wasn't. They got traded, and

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Speaker 3: he wanted to be traded. Teams don't want guys like

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Speaker 3: that on their roster. And you know it's so I'm

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Speaker 3: I was okay with I was downplaying the wide receiver thing.

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Speaker 3: The Michael Hoyt thing kind of got my got me

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Speaker 3: riled up, and maybe we could get a guy, but

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Speaker 3: getting one of those guys from anybody, not for a

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Speaker 3: reasonable price, not for a long term, sustainable price, and

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Speaker 3: for right now, he's got to take a deep breath

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Speaker 3: and say, we're humming along, let's just go, let's win,

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Speaker 3: just stack wins, and let's get to the to the

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Speaker 3: finish line. I'm yeah, I still have a lot of

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Speaker 3: faith in this team and what it's able to do.

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Speaker 3: So I'm that's kind of where I'm at right now.

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Speaker 3: And I had to take a deep breath, no, no question,

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Speaker 3: but I'm good.

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Speaker 2: All right. Well, without further ado, we're gonna pivot to

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Speaker 2: NFL Network national reporter Cameron Wolf who joins us now

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Speaker 2: and uh I guess since it's top of mind, Cameron, Well, uh,

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Speaker 2: we'll start with trade deadline day. Some big names God moved,

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Speaker 2: maybe some names not everyone was expecting, and it happened

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Speaker 2: largely in this division. If the Jets moving on from

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Speaker 2: Sauce Gardner and Quinn Williams, my question to you is,

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Speaker 2: while the Jets have acquired some extraordinary draft capital here

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Speaker 2: for the next two drafts, people kind of felt like

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Speaker 2: they were rebuilding already under Aaron Glenn and now you

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Speaker 2: take arguably two of their top four defensive players off

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Speaker 2: of that roster who were still in their mid twenties,

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Speaker 2: and those are now two holes. You have to feel

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Speaker 2: going forward, how do you feel the rebuild looks for

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Speaker 2: the Jets now that Williams and Gardner are elsewhere?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Good af noon, fellas.

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Speaker 11: First of all, they're starting over. It's really starting to

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Speaker 11: rebuild from scratch mid season because you looked at those

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Speaker 11: guys as at least part of your foundation that you're building.

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Speaker 11: Now they have a relatively little foundation outside of draft picks,

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Speaker 11: and so the feel I got around the league was

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Speaker 11: they did get good value and for those trades, in particular,

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Speaker 11: getting two first round picks from Sauce Gardeners, So you

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Speaker 11: can't crush them for the value, but you've got to

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Speaker 11: be able to draft well or otherwise you've got three

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Speaker 11: first round picks of potential. And so yeah, I think

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Speaker 11: it probably sets their timeline back another year and it

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Speaker 11: may be a couple of years before we're talking about

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Speaker 11: the Jets as even a playoff contender, you know, after

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Speaker 11: this reset again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and but with the with the whull they got

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Speaker 3: for Sauce and the picks they are going to get

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Speaker 3: are going to have going forward, it looks like they're

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Speaker 3: going to have enough draft capital to get whatever guy

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Speaker 3: they want, even if it has to be the first

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Speaker 3: pick of the draft.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's it. That's it right there. It's a team

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Speaker 5: that knows they need a quarterback.

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Speaker 11: They were going through the stop gap path with Justin

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Speaker 11: Fields and clearly it hasn't worked, and they said, we'd

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Speaker 11: rather go all in and make sure we get our quarterback.

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Speaker 11: And if we've got to lose two defensive players in

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Speaker 11: Sauce Gardner and Quinn Williams to do it, then we're

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Speaker 11: willing to do it. And that's the bet they're making.

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Speaker 11: So they've already turned the base twenty twenty six. Ideally

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Speaker 11: they start over with their next quarterback and they'll probably

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Speaker 11: be bad enough that they may be able to get

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Speaker 11: it with their own pick, but just in case, they've

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Speaker 11: got Ammo. And what's also interesting, they have three first

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Speaker 11: round picks in twenty twenty seven, So depending on how

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Speaker 11: they feel about this quarterback class, they could certainly wait

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Speaker 11: till twenty seven for the quarterback and build around with

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Speaker 11: the other picks at another position. So it'll be quite

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Speaker 11: the interesting offseason the next two off seasons around draft

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Speaker 11: time for the Jets.

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Speaker 2: What did you make, Cameron of the fact that, aside

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Speaker 2: from Indianapolis and Pittsburgh, a lot of the AFC contenders

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Speaker 2: stood pat Now that's not to say they weren't trying

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Speaker 2: to get deals done. We just heard from Brandon Bean

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Speaker 2: who quite frankly, seemed a little disappointed that he didn't

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Speaker 2: get anything done. But Buffalo, New England, Denver, Kansas City,

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Speaker 2: none of them did anything here at the deadline. What

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Speaker 2: do you make of that?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I consider these are teams that were really tight

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Speaker 11: on their values and then their purses. You know, I'll

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Speaker 11: just start with KC and Buffalo because they're the two

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Speaker 11: teams that have been in the AFC Championship, you know,

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Speaker 11: probably the teams that people considered the favorites. Both of

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Speaker 11: those teams tight to the salary cap, both of those

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Speaker 11: teams reluctant to give up day two or day one

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Speaker 11: picks for guys who are rentals.

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Speaker 5: And I think that's ultimately.

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Speaker 11: What we saw here where teams, as we saw with

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Speaker 11: Jalen Phillips, wanted a third round pick for a lot

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Speaker 11: of these rentals and they didn't move for that. I

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Speaker 11: know Kansas City called on Brest Hall and the Jets

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Speaker 11: held firm on a third round pick is their value

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Speaker 11: and he's still a Jet. And I know the Bills

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Speaker 11: were in the market for wide receiver and defensive tackle

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Speaker 11: and the market just didn't come their way.

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Speaker 5: You know, I think Rashid Shiheit's price was a little lower.

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Speaker 11: Maybe he's a Bill today, but you know, the Seahawks

626
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Speaker 11: were able to make a move there and get that guy.

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Speaker 11: And I think Brandon being alluded to it in this

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Speaker 11: press conference. It's kind of weird when you're the Bills

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Speaker 11: and the two teams that are selling or in your

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Speaker 11: division and nobody wants to trade any elite players within

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Speaker 11: your division.

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Speaker 5: So I look at.

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Speaker 11: This as teams that were not willing to do the Hey,

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Speaker 11: I'm putting all my poker chips in for better or

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Speaker 11: for worse.

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Speaker 5: I know fans will probably say, hey, they should have.

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Speaker 11: But I live here in Miami and I can tell

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00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 11: you a team that's regretting going all in on some

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Speaker 11: of the decisions they've made over the last few years,

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Speaker 11: and now they're ruining it.

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Speaker 5: So it's a weird balance.

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Speaker 11: But you're right, the AFC is wide open because no

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Speaker 11: one made that one move to say, hey, I'm now the.

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Speaker 3: Favorite you're down there in Miami. Is there a move

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Speaker 3: from the Dolphins that was expected that did not happen

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Speaker 3: for you guys that cover the team, No, I.

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Speaker 5: Don't think so.

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Speaker 11: I think there was a lot of speculation about Jayleen

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Speaker 11: wattell my understanding, that was never really a real consideration.

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Speaker 11: They would have needed that sauce Gardener Quinn Williams type

651
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Speaker 11: package of multiple first round picks or first and second

652
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,720
Speaker 11: round picks even consider that, and that just wasn't his market.

653
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 11: So I think the Jalen Phillips dill was expected. You know,

654
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 11: they have been talking to Philly for over a week

655
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 11: about that. I thought they might get one or two

656
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Speaker 11: other pieces off, you know, Bradley Chubb or Minka Fitzpatrick,

657
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 11: but the offers just weren't very high for either player.

658
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 11: Both making a lot of money this year. Teams don't

659
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 11: really want to eat money mid season either, and so

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Speaker 11: I think that's why you see both of those guys

661
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Speaker 11: still here. You know, we'd rather from the Dolphins standpoint,

662
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Speaker 11: keep a veteran who may be able to help us

663
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Speaker 11: compete rather than get a six or seventh round pick

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Speaker 11: if we've got to pay a salary anyway.

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Speaker 2: All right, So since we've brought up the Dolphins, why

666
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Speaker 2: don't we stay there? Since that's Buffalo's opponent here in

667
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Speaker 2: Week ten and we're trying to get a handle on this.

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Speaker 2: I mean, from the outside looking in, it looks like

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Speaker 2: a death march for this team to the finish at

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Speaker 2: two and seven. They're GM canned, They've got the interim there,

671
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Speaker 2: so I don't know, like people are waiting for the

672
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Speaker 2: other shoe to drop. With Mike McDaniel, it sounds like

673
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Speaker 2: he's gonna at least finish this season as the head coach.

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Speaker 2: Players morale camp be high. How would you how would

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Speaker 2: you term this locker room, in this team, knowing they

676
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Speaker 2: still have eight nine games to play.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's been a nightmare season for Miami.

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Speaker 11: You know, they started the year with hopes and dreams

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Speaker 11: that they could try to challenge Buffalo, and that quickly

680
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 11: became clear that wasn't going to be the case. You know,

681
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Speaker 11: I've been in the locker room a few times this season,

682
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Speaker 11: and I'll tell you what. They haven't been the somber

683
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Speaker 11: woe is Me group that you'd probably expect from a

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Speaker 11: team that had expectations that didn't go well. I think

685
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Speaker 11: they're very young, so although they've been in the hunt,

686
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Speaker 11: this version of the Dolphins hasn't been in the hunt.

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Speaker 5: And I think they are.

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Speaker 11: Kind of managing a situation where they know their future

689
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 11: may be in someone else's hands. So you see guys

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Speaker 11: playing with fights.

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Speaker 5: Still.

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Speaker 11: That being said, they don't have the talent that they've

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Speaker 11: had in recent years. They're much less talented, especially on

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Speaker 11: the offensive defensive line, and they need a lot more

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Speaker 11: from Tua than they ever had, and that's when we're

696
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Speaker 11: starting to see some of his weaknesses get exposed when

697
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Speaker 11: he's kind of forced to do too much.

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Speaker 5: So the Bills will go into.

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Speaker 11: Town, if they come ready to play, they should handle

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Speaker 11: this Dolphins team. They're a better squad and a lot

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Speaker 11: of different categories. But at this stage I haven't seen

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Speaker 11: them quit on the year to where you'll see a

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Speaker 11: team kind of lollygag out there and not play.

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Speaker 3: How big a hole is Jalen phillips absence make He's

705
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Speaker 3: a guy that really he was a really easy been

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Speaker 3: a really good player for the Dolphins, and now he's not.

707
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Speaker 3: He's in Philly. How big a void does he leave?

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Speaker 3: And is his void is big on the defensive side

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Speaker 3: is maybe even Tyreeks was on the offensive side.

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Speaker 5: Not quite that big.

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Speaker 11: But I'll say this, like Jalen Phillips was their most

712
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Speaker 11: productive pass rusher. Like he hadn't had the sack numbers yet,

713
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Speaker 11: but his pressure rates were top fifteen in an NFL.

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Speaker 11: He was consistently the guy that would get into the backfield,

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Speaker 11: that would get the pressure. The only criticism I think

716
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Speaker 11: Dolphins fans had is he he didn't finish some of

717
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Speaker 11: those sacks, and he had one against the Chargers that

718
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 11: if he sacked Justin Herbert they get a win. But

719
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Speaker 11: he was their first round pick, their top pass rusher

720
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Speaker 11: of the future. He got hurt a couple times with

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Speaker 11: serious injuries, and that's the only reason why he's available.

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Speaker 11: I just think there's not enough trust for a rebuilding

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Speaker 11: team and his health to be able to invest the

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Speaker 11: money that he's probably going to get this offseason. So, yeah,

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Speaker 11: Bradley Chubb is still there. He'll be their top edge rusher,

726
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Speaker 11: and then Matthew Judon, who they signed earlier, he'll slide

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Speaker 11: into a starting role, and then they have kind of

728
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Speaker 11: a collection of young guys behind him. But they were

729
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Speaker 11: already very a week as far as production in the

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Speaker 11: pass rush department. This obviously makes them even weaker and

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Speaker 11: so definitely a good day for the Bills and Josh

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Speaker 11: Allen to be able to pass the ball.

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Speaker 5: They should have some time back there.

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Speaker 2: And then what about the status at chop concussion. I'm

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Speaker 2: assuming he's in the protocol, but as any thing been

736
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Speaker 2: said about I know it's early in the week here,

737
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Speaker 2: Cameron anything, Yeah, he's.

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Speaker 5: Still in the protocol. He's not.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, he's still in the protocol. He's not practicing today.

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Speaker 11: I was there at the game. It was ugly looking

741
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Speaker 11: of a concussion like he was in the medical tent

742
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Speaker 11: for about ten minutes. He had to be held up

743
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Speaker 11: by trainers walking to the locker room.

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Speaker 5: He had towels over his head.

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Speaker 11: It was, you know, I don't know like the severity

746
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Speaker 11: of concussions, but it definitely looked more alarming than most.

747
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Speaker 11: So I would not be surprised if you don't see

748
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Speaker 11: Chob Robinson this week.

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Speaker 5: But you know, that hasn't been official yet. It's just

750
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Speaker 5: kind of my field based on the situation.

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Speaker 11: So my thought is you'll see the edge rushers that

752
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Speaker 11: that I talked about, and we'll see something changes later.

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Speaker 5: In the week.

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Speaker 3: What what are some of the other Dolphins that are

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Speaker 3: either questionable or might have some doubt as to whether

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Speaker 3: they can shoot up on Sunday.

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Speaker 11: They've got a couple guys in the secondary if emlifan

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Speaker 11: Wu and Ashton Davis. There are two safeties outside of

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Speaker 11: Mika Fitzpatrick that are up in the air. You know,

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Speaker 11: I think they're probably fifty to fifty to go if not,

761
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Speaker 11: but otherwise they should be relatively straight to go and

762
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Speaker 11: they're gonna try to score some points. They know they're

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Speaker 11: they're you know, lacking on the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 11: That's been a struggle point for them all year, and

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Speaker 11: so their only route to really keep up is can

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Speaker 11: they get the bottom divine h Chan, get the ball

767
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Speaker 11: to jail Wade as they did in Spurts in the

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Speaker 11: first half against the Ravens, and hope to keep up

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Speaker 11: with that team.

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Speaker 2: All right, Cam, thanks as always for the time. We

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00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 2: appreciate it. We'll catch up with you down the line.

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Speaker 5: Appreciate you, Felos.

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Speaker 4: All right, that's.

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Speaker 2: NFL Network national reporter Cameron Wolf giving us his take

775
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Speaker 2: on trade deadline Day and some of the deals that

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Speaker 2: went down, as well as helping us get ready for

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Speaker 2: Bills Dolphins on Sunday. Got to take a break here,

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Speaker 2: but we will take your phone calls on the heels

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Speaker 2: of trade deadline Day next at eight o three oh

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Speaker 2: five fifty on One Bill's Live presented by Kilida Health.

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Speaker 12: Buffalo Bills and the task in the Coach's office this week,

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Speaker 12: Steve is going to be filling the void left behind

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Speaker 12: by Michael Hoyd.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's a one player answer. It's probably

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Speaker 2: a multiple player answer, and I wonder if it's largely

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Speaker 2: Javon Solomon and maybe Dorian Williams, who was used as

790
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Speaker 2: a pass rusher last week with pretty good effectiveness.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think that. I don't think it's going

792
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 3: to be possible to do it. They're gonna because what

793
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 3: Michael Hoyd did is impossible to be done by multiple

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00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 3: players because you could leave him on the field. He

795
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 3: fills multiple roles and you could switch it around without

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Speaker 3: changing personnel, and whatever ship personnel they put on the field,

797
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 3: you could do. You didn't have to substitute to combat

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Speaker 3: it just to get a pass rush. So it's gonna

799
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Speaker 3: hurt losing Michael Hoyd. Now we saw six games without

800
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 3: him anyway, but we did see two games with him

801
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 3: and it was different. It was different. So yeah, it's

802
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 3: just it's highly disappointing to lose Hoyight. I mean, it's

803
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 3: just a punch in the gut, But it does. You know,

804
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 3: they do have guys they're gonna turn to who are

805
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 3: gonna be anxious to get in and play. Well. You

806
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 3: know how We've always had a joking conversation between see

807
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 3: that I've always liked Javon Solomon. He can play like

808
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,720
Speaker 3: Mike Hoyt in certain spots, but he can't do everything

809
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 3: Hoyt does.

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Speaker 2: Not.

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Speaker 3: He's not the quite he's not the same athlete. He's

812
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 3: not as powerful down inside. Hoyt goes inside and he

813
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 3: brushes like a defensive tackle and he's tough, He's a load.

814
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 3: Javon Solomon can rush from the outside like Hoyd, but

815
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 3: he can't rush from the inside like Hoyd. So yeah,

816
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 3: they'll they'll play their defense and there's gonna be some

817
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 3: guys who play well. But I can't. I'll say it again,

818
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Speaker 3: like I said yesterday, the ripple effects of Hoyt on

819
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 3: the field, even the secondary was feeling better. Even the

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00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 3: secondary great game benefit from the way Hoyt was playing.

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Speaker 3: Joey Bosa certainly felt felt it. That guy was a

822
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Speaker 3: force because you know, because of what Hoyt was doing

823
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Speaker 3: inside on the pass rush. So you look back at

824
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Speaker 3: this season anything, Man, how different would it would it

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Speaker 3: be if Hoyt was on the field with Ed Oliver

826
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Speaker 3: and Joey Bosa. Because right now Brandon Bean's looking like

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Speaker 3: he had the right idea putting that roster again like that.

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Speaker 2: The problem is you had it for one half of

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Speaker 2: football in Carolina. So unfortunate that it didn't come to

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Speaker 2: fruition this year. But that's from the coach's office. Gonna

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Speaker 2: get to the phones now at eight o three five

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Speaker 2: point fifty won eight eight eight five fifty two five fifteen,

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Speaker 2: and we lead off with Jaden in South Carolina. What's

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Speaker 2: up Jaden?

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Speaker 13: Hey, y'all, it's trade and I call him.

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Speaker 2: Sorry just going by what I see on my screen here.

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Speaker 13: It doesn't It didn't done bother me at all. But

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Speaker 13: first one to start with a thank y'all. Don't tell

839
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Speaker 13: me to go visit Poncho's. We met the army and

840
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 13: it was incredible. Uh, met Pete's pet and we were

841
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 13: caring around wife and I were caring around a bottle

842
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 13: of Buffalo trace, giving out and trading it for food.

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Speaker 13: So we had a good old time. So thank y'all.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 13: And also, Steve, I saw your ad in the airport

846
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Speaker 13: of you on the table with Josh, Josh, Dion and Dawson,

847
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Speaker 13: and I literally barely laughed. It was hilarious. Yeah no,

848
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Speaker 13: but I didn't get to talk ball last time. And

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Speaker 13: so we're leaving the game. We were five years up,

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Speaker 13: Saul hooy and it was heartbreaking, you know, right in

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Speaker 13: front of us. But we're in the bathroom and me

852
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 13: and a bunch of Bills Mafia are laughing at how

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Speaker 13: the national media is going to react to this game

854
00:45:58,239 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 13: and how all of a sudden we're gonna be you

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00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 13: world beaters and we're the best ever, and then next

856
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 13: week it'll be something different. And so really the question

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00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 13: is today is about Max. What what is some reasonable

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00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 13: expectations for him? I mean, he's got one tackle, he's

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00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 13: got one sack, and in my head, that's a good

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Speaker 13: thing for a corner. You know, if he's not getting

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Speaker 13: a lot of tackles, he's not getting a lot of

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00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 13: or not sack one interception, if he's not getting a

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Speaker 13: lot of action, it's because he's doing his job and

864
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Speaker 13: covering his man. And so I would love to know

865
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 13: some reasonable expectations because I'm a big fan of you

866
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,280
Speaker 13: know that old Chinese proverb. You know, we'll see same

867
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 13: thing with trade deadline. You know, we'll see same thing

868
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 13: with Hoyt. We'll see I just want, you know, as

869
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 13: Bill's mafia, all of us together to calm down, what

870
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 13: are reasonable expectations for Max and this defense. I know

871
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 13: we all fall for that recentcy bias, like y'all say

872
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 13: all the time, right, you know, But either way, one,

873
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,720
Speaker 13: thank you, we had a great time to a lifetime

874
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 13: and two that and then I'll hang up and let

875
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 13: y'all talk and I'll listen.

876
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,760
Speaker 2: Thanks. Sounds good for Max.

877
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 3: My take on Max's this, you want to see him

878
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 3: continue to up his snap count until he's taking one

879
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 3: hundred percent of the snaps at corner and he turns

880
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 3: into a CB one. Certainly he's he's built a little

881
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,879
Speaker 3: smaller than most corner ones, but he's certainly fast enough,

882
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 3: has a skill set. His ball skills are top notch.

883
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 3: He's a fluid athlete. That's what you want to see.

884
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 3: You just want to see him up again, and you

885
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 3: would like to see production. You'd like to see him

886
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 3: get a bunch of PBUs at the very least pass breakups.

887
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 3: That is what that is. Certainly, interceptions are awesome, but

888
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 3: if a corner is doing his job, you're right, he

889
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,720
Speaker 3: doesn't get thrown at too much. The quarterback is scared

890
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 3: off by his presence. They tried to get it deep

891
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 3: to him. We're watching the play here. No, this is

892
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 3: the other one. Uh the play here where he's running

893
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 3: down with Worthy, he was on Worthy a lot. That

894
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 3: interception was unworthy. He broke. He ran stride for stride

895
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 3: with Worthy down the sideline, the near side sideline on

896
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 3: the home side early in the game and broke that

897
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 3: pass play up. That's the reasonable expectation. More snaps, more

898
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 3: production because of opportunities, and also not hearing from him

899
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 3: because they can't throw at him. That would be awesome,

900
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 3: But that's about as reasonable as you can get. And

901
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 3: that's a that's a fairly reasonable expectation, at least by

902
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 3: the end of the year.

903
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, got half the snaps last week. He went fifty

904
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 2: to fifty with Trey White. I would expect him to

905
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 2: increase again this week, especially against an opponent where hopefully

906
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 2: sooner rather than later you're up on them on the

907
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 2: scoreboard and you can get young guys like him more

908
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 2: time on the field. I don't think you should expect

909
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 2: him to be perfect because he hasn't seen everything. He's inexperienced.

910
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 2: He may get fooled on a player or two here

911
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 2: or there. And the other part of this, too is

912
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 2: you ask for the expectations of the defense. I think

913
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,720
Speaker 2: that's a wait and see right now. We had certain

914
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 2: expectations while we waited for Michael Hoyt and Larry Ogan

915
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 2: job to come back, and then we were going to

916
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 2: make another assessment. And then those two players came back,

917
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 2: and you already lost one for the season and Ed's

918
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 2: gone for the season two, and so now the expectations

919
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 2: have to change again. And I think it's again a

920
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 2: wait and see to know what this iteration of the

921
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 2: Bills defense is going to look like, because there are

922
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 2: no guarantees that the pass rush is going to look

923
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 2: as good as it's looked each of the last two

924
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 2: weeks when they racked up ten sacks in two games. Well,

925
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 2: we have to wait, yeah, because this is a new

926
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 2: version of this defense yet again, and that's kind of

927
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 2: where we are.

928
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, you might see it for Max going back to

929
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,879
Speaker 3: Max for a second. Teams are gonna get a chance

930
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:44,439
Speaker 3: to watch him on film more and more, and they'll

931
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 3: get an idea of what he is and what he

932
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 3: can't do, and some of the stuff he does that

933
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 3: maybe he doesn't even realize. He may bite hard on playface,

934
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 3: he may bite hard on certain kind of move, and

935
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 3: teams will try him on those and he'll have to

936
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 3: stand up to that. And that's why you know, that's

937
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 3: when they start trying him, because they will until he

938
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 3: proves they shouldn't. So early on here in his development,

939
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 3: the more snaps he gets, the more teams will start

940
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 3: to get to know him and they'll start saying, well,

941
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 3: we haven't seen him do this, let's try it. And

942
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 3: you'll see some.

943
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 2: Of that break time for us here, but we are

944
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 2: wide open for your phone calls in hour number two.

945
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 2: So if you're holding at eight oh three oh five fifty,

946
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 2: we'll get to you when we return here on One

947
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 2: Bill's Live.

948
00:50:21,320 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 1: Stay with us these One Bill's Live presented by called

949
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 1: Lda Hell.

950
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 2: All right, second hour here on a Wednesday, Chris Brown

951
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 2: Steves asking with you, and I want to get right

952
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 2: to the phones where some people have been waiting patiently

953
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 2: here on the heels of trade deadline day, and we

954
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 2: go to Peter out in Washington.

955
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 14: What's up, Peter, Hey, Chris Steve, how you doing, first

956
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:29,280
Speaker 14: time caller?

957
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 2: Thanks for doing it, doing it?

958
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 14: Give him a big fan, by the way, watched you

959
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 14: growing up as a kid in the nineties, and I

960
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 14: hope again into Hall of Fame. So appreciate its fingers

961
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 14: crossed for you. I just wanted to send a message

962
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 14: out there to the fans. Actually, I'm a big fan.

963
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 14: I've been following this team for many years, and I

964
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 14: just can't look at X or Twitter anymore. It feels

965
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 14: like it's just getting toxic with you need to make

966
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,879
Speaker 14: a trade or you know Bean and he's not doing

967
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 14: a good job, and you know, this team's not going

968
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 14: to get over the hump, and it just it feels

969
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 14: like we're oer and h We're six and two. We played,

970
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 14: you know, uh, some bad games. I get it. I realized.

971
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:15,879
Speaker 14: I was at the Carolina game and I saw first

972
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 14: hand what a dominant performance that was, which, by the way,

973
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 14: punkers the Green Bay, right, I mean, that wasn't a

974
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 14: bad team. We beat the Chiefs. Uh, they're trimming up,

975
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 14: and the fans just still I get it. I understand it. Well,

976
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 14: I want a great you know, wide receiver too, but

977
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 14: you know, at the same time, let's let's take a

978
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 14: step back and just take a deep breath. We got

979
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 14: the Ultims this week and we just got to, you know,

980
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,439
Speaker 14: like enjoy what we have. This is not a bad

981
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 14: roster check. Even a guy like Mathis plugged in really well,

982
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 14: and I'm like, look at the depth. You know, we

983
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 14: have depth. I just guys played. Let them get some pups.

984
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 14: Maybe this is the week where Lyndon Jackson shows up

985
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 14: more and they got again reps right and they're developing.

986
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 14: Look at Bishop it. He took a little bit, but

987
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 14: he's there, right, And so as Fancy, just relax. That's

988
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 14: all I gotta say.

989
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 2: All right, thanks for the call, Peter, appreciate it. Yeah,

990
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 2: I mean I liked what we saw from Fadarien Mathis

991
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,320
Speaker 2: last week as a practice squad call up, and apparently

992
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 2: the coaching staff did too. Now, part of it might

993
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 2: be out of necessity. Also, you're a little short handed there,

994
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 2: but he earned himself an active roster spot because of it.

995
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 2: I thought he played with some energy and juice and

996
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 2: I thought he made life a little bit easier for

997
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 2: the guys that can get after the quarterback by tying

998
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:39,240
Speaker 2: up two guys at times. So yeah, he was effective.

999
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 2: I'm curious to see how he does against teams that

1000
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 2: commit to running the ball a little bit more than

1001
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 2: the Chiefs who did not commit to it at all,

1002
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 2: So that that's for another time. But yeah, and Landon

1003
00:53:54,200 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 2: Jackson too. Coach said it today. You know, we didn't

1004
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 2: want to have this many injuries. Do we have holes

1005
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 2: on our roster because of injury, yes, but it's up

1006
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 2: to the young guys to step up and fill those

1007
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 2: holes now and Landon Jackson's number is probably going to

1008
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 2: get called, if not this week, next week or very soon.

1009
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1010
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 3: So that's why you build a roster with sixty nine

1011
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 3: or seventy guys, not just twenty two. You know you're

1012
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 3: going to have to have guys step up, and that's

1013
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 3: why they put thought into their second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth,

1014
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 3: and seventh round picks.

1015
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 2: Let's go to Mike in Syracuse next.

1016
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 15: What's up, Mike, Hi, Chris Saicetee, thanks for having me

1017
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 15: on again. I guess the topic of the day. My

1018
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 15: biggest surprise kind of the soft Gardener thing for sure,

1019
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 15: just because there was such a high trade for him

1020
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 15: with all the picks and all that stuff. But my

1021
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 15: other surprise kind of was that in New England didn't

1022
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:53,359
Speaker 15: throw some big money at somebody to get another top

1023
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 15: end player, because I understand that their caps is well

1024
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 15: at the point I think they have thirty million to

1025
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:01,399
Speaker 15: throw at somebody.

1026
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's actually more than that. I think they're fifty

1027
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 2: four million under right now, which is astonishing.

1028
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 15: Yeah, that's amazing. I'm surprised they didn't try to get

1029
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 15: a real top end player and throw a ton of

1030
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 15: money at them. So that was kind of my biggest

1031
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 15: surprise with that, because I thought they would acquire somebody.

1032
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 15: But it's also good for the Bills because I feel

1033
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 15: as though will continue to dominate the Jets and Miami

1034
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 15: for a few more years because Jets are gonna rebuild,

1035
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 15: Miami's gonna have to rebuild if they even can. So

1036
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 15: that's that's my take on that other thing. Just the

1037
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 15: beginning of the show, I just wanted to make a

1038
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 15: quick comment. I was really really happy that the Chiefs

1039
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 15: game was so well televised and setting records because nothing

1040
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 15: made me a little bit happier than the Bill's defense

1041
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 15: whooping the snot on the Pat Mahomes and a ton

1042
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 15: of people seeing it. I thought it was great that

1043
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 15: we hit him that much and a bunch of people

1044
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 15: got to see it, just because that guy's paused our

1045
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 15: franchise a lot of English for the last five years,

1046
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 15: and it's been tough. That's all I got thanks to

1047
00:55:59,040 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 15: taking my call.

1048
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure thing, Mike, Yeah. I mean Maholmes had his

1049
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 2: worst completion percentage game of his career on Sunday, forty

1050
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 2: four percent. He was fifteen to thirty four. I've never

1051
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,240
Speaker 2: seen him look that bad against the Bills.

1052
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:12,839
Speaker 3: I got to say that. I don't want to say.

1053
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 3: I'm like, this is some sort of huge deal, but

1054
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 3: I go back to it again, and he might be

1055
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 3: under selling it about how effective Kansas City's offense can be.

1056
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 3: In script the Bills, all the Bills did was get

1057
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 3: Pat Mahomes through his progressions until he had to create,

1058
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 3: and then they couldn't when the pressure got to him.

1059
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 3: Their offense was completely void until Mahomes got out of

1060
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 3: the pocket. It was completely to me and completely non existent.

1061
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,399
Speaker 3: That's a problem for the Chiefs big time. Now he's

1062
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 3: great at it and we see, you know, because they

1063
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 3: got smart guys out there worthy, But you can't live

1064
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 3: in Kelsey. If you live that way, teams will have

1065
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 3: answers for it that will make it difficult to do that.

1066
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 3: And right now, I don't know that they're particularly with

1067
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 3: Pacheco out. I don't know that their regular offense is

1068
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 3: something you have to worry about the Bills. Let's think

1069
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 3: about it. The Bills didn't rush Mahomes except straight at.

1070
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 3: They just rushed him straight ahead. They didn't cross, they

1071
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 3: didn't X, they didn't you know, certainly.

1072
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 2: They did set picks inside and then let.

1073
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, Benford got off the edge, got a sack, double

1074
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 3: corner blitz. So they did a little bit of that.

1075
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 3: But that was surprise, right. It wasn't like the game plan.

1076
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 3: They're the front four just kept Mahomes from being able

1077
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 3: to just pull the ball down, run around and extend plays.

1078
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 2: We'll see if their pass protection improves. With Josh Simmons,

1079
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 2: their first round draft pick, coming back to the team

1080
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 2: this week. He was away for the past month for

1081
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 2: a personal matter, and so they had a backup playing

1082
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 2: left tackle. They have a guy that's a revolving door

1083
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 2: at right tackle, and one of them got hurt in

1084
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 2: the game, and so then they had Wanye Morris out there,

1085
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 2: who was a backup at best. So the Chiefs were

1086
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 2: also a little beat up up front, and Trey Smith

1087
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 2: was just coming back from a back injury and had

1088
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 2: just re entered the lineup. So they get healthier up front.

1089
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 2: That's what they're looking to do.

1090
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 3: This has been reported. Out of the guys that cover

1091
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 3: the Dolphins, Rasseul Douglas was not spotted at practice. So

1092
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 3: Ethan Bonner could make his first NFL start at corner

1093
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 3: against the Bills. He's got thirteen games played in three season.

1094
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 3: But Rasoul Douglas is out with a toe injury. Now

1095
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 3: it's you know, it's Wednesday, so that a lot could happen.

1096
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 3: He may be on the field when they get to Sunday.

1097
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 3: But just one more problem the Dolphins are facing right now.

1098
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 2: To George in Buffalo, what's up, George?

1099
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, Hi, Yeah, I got a question. I'm a long

1100
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 9: time Bill fan since the early sixties. Actually, my question

1101
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 9: is on two of the receivers that we have here.

1102
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:05,439
Speaker 9: We have Curtis Samuel who runs a four to three

1103
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 9: to one forty, and Elijah Moore who runs a four

1104
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 9: to three five forty. And they're supposed to have separation skills.

1105
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 9: One has four catches and the other has six catches.

1106
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 9: Uh Is, Curtis Samuel and the doghouse. How come they're

1107
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 9: not utilized utilizing them more? This is my question. I'm

1108
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 9: going to hang up and I'll listen to your answer, thank.

1109
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 2: You sure, then, George, I think it's safe to say

1110
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 2: that King, Kaid and Shakir are the featured players in

1111
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 2: this offense. All you need to do is look at

1112
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 2: the season long stat sheet to see that I don't

1113
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 2: think that's changing, and look at last week's stat sheet

1114
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 2: is a perfect example. Kincaid, I think, had six catches

1115
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:54,439
Speaker 2: on six targets, and Shakier had six catches or five

1116
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 2: catches and seven targets.

1117
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 3: Seven catches on eight targets.

1118
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 2: Seven catches on eight targets. Nobody else had more than

1119
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 2: two receptions on the entire football or two targets. So

1120
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 2: it's clear that the passing game runs through those two

1121
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 2: and everybody else gets table scraps. That you couple that

1122
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 2: with the fact that the Bills are the only offense

1123
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 2: in football running the ball more than fifty percent of

1124
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 2: the time, and the opportunities are fewer and further between

1125
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 2: as well. I mean, Josh was uncommonly ef fishing last week,

1126
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 2: but he only threw twenty six passes. He threw nineteen

1127
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 2: the week before. The opportunities are limited to so think

1128
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 2: about this target share on twenty six passes. Kincaid and

1129
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 2: Shakir had fifteen of them. Fifteen of the twenty six targets.

1130
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 2: I mean that's fifty eight fifty nine, you know, fifty

1131
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 2: seven percent, and the rest goes to eight other guys,

1132
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 2: not three other guys, eight other guys. So it gets

1133
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 2: spread very thin, very quickly. And so to say, ah,

1134
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 2: these guys aren't anything, even though they got speed, and look,

1135
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 2: I'll tell you too, and Steve can speak to this

1136
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 2: better than I can. Speed does not guarantee separation ability.

1137
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 2: I remember I had a long conversation with Lee Evans

1138
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 2: when he got here back in the mid two thousands,

1139
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 2: before twenty ten, and he said, an old coach once

1140
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 2: taught me that my speed is not going to get

1141
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 2: me separation alone. Its route running precision. That's not to

1142
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 2: say those guys can't run routes either, But I think

1143
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 2: also their snap count isn't what it is for the

1144
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 2: other two guys. They're getting twenty twenty five maybe thirty

1145
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 2: snaps a game, and then you couple that with the

1146
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 2: passes in total in terms of attempts, and then after

1147
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 2: that target share, I think you can understand maybe they

1148
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 2: should be providing a little bit more, shouldn't be one

1149
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 2: catch for four yards or four on the season. But

1150
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 2: it's just where it is right now in the pecking word.

1151
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 3: It's been that way really.

1152
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 2: For the last couple of years for Samuel Yes.

1153
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 3: And it's like I went back just randomly, and this

1154
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 3: is the Week nine matchup last year against Miami. The

1155
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 3: Bills beat him thirty to twenty seven. There were there

1156
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 3: were nine guys on the sheet, eight of which caught passes.

1157
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 3: Kincaid had ten targets, Shakir had seven, mac Hollins had five,

1158
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:32,439
Speaker 3: and James Cook had six. Nobody else had more than two.

1159
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 3: That's the way they run this offense. And I think

1160
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 3: the difficult part and I don't know, you didn't ask

1161
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 3: You didn't ask this, you know, Mike, But the difficult

1162
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 3: part of this is for those guys to be ready,

1163
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 3: Like Elijah Moore had one catch last week, but it

1164
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 3: was a twenty eight yarder and it was critical. They

1165
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 3: got to do it. Guys got to buy in. This

1166
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 3: receiving room is much more talented than one last year

1167
01:02:55,280 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 3: because mac Hollins isn't on it, and Palmer is, Joshua

1168
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 3: Palmer is, and Elijah Moore is also Terrell Shavers is

1169
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 3: getting some time and getting targets as well, so he's

1170
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 3: emerged as a better version of himself than he did

1171
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 3: a year ago. They run this offense and there's no doubt.

1172
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 3: I mean, you look at those numbers just from those

1173
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 3: two games, this year's Chiefs game and last year's Dolphins game.

1174
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 3: The one I picked out. It goes through Kincaid and

1175
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 3: it goes through Shakir, and you can sprinkle in whoever

1176
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 3: the number two is, whether it's Joshua Palmer or Mac

1177
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 3: Hollins last year you take your pick, or Elijah Moore,

1178
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 3: or it could be James Cook too. And I think

1179
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 3: in a perfect world, but that's what it's gonna look like.

1180
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 3: Those guys get targeted because they get separation because they

1181
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 3: have a high catch rate. I'm convinced that's big time

1182
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 3: and what Joe Brady and Josh Allen want because they

1183
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 3: live they live through the Gabe Davis is their number

1184
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 3: two wide receiver and he was catching half balls that

1185
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 3: they threw to him, and you can't live like that.

1186
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 3: It's number two. So you I know, this offense doesn't

1187
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 3: look at times like they're using this guy enough because

1188
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 3: every time they go to him, he produces and why

1189
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 3: don't they go to him more well, because they got

1190
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 3: other guys that are producing. It's think about if you're

1191
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 3: trying to defend the offense, that's exactly how you want

1192
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 3: that defense. Those are the kind of problems you want

1193
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 3: to hand to a defense. You throw it to anybody.

1194
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 3: That's a problem for defenses. And that's why this offense

1195
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 3: is more productive than it ever was with Steph Diggs.

1196
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 3: I gotta it is. It's more productive. They score more shift,

1197
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 3: they score more with defensive and they control the game

1198
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 3: better without Without a number one, they control the game better.

1199
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 3: They ran at thirty five times the other day, had

1200
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 3: the ball for thirty four plus minutes. You you can't

1201
01:04:58,280 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 3: beat a team like that.

1202
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 2: They have the high highest time of possession differential in

1203
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 2: the league right now. They had the ball for nine

1204
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 2: more minutes than the Chiefs last week.

1205
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 3: So their recipe offensively is tough to beat. And and

1206
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 3: it makes it easier on their defense, which is riddled

1207
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:19,440
Speaker 3: with injuries, and it makes it really tough on the

1208
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 3: other offense.

1209
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 2: And I think that has to be a bigger consideration

1210
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 2: going forward while the defense is figuring out what they

1211
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 2: have again, because of all the injuries that have created

1212
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 2: some holes. I think it's almost incumbent upon the offense

1213
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 2: to continue in this vein and to carry time of

1214
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 2: possession advantages so that the opponent has fewer possessions for

1215
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 2: your injury riddle defense to defend.

1216
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 3: I'm not even the numbers tell you that. The offense

1217
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 3: here's the engine on both sides. You know, they're the

1218
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 3: engine of the team, and this team's winning games and

1219
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 3: there they are tough. They're a tough out, particularly when

1220
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 3: they run the ball as well as they do, and

1221
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 3: you can't get it away from them. So and if

1222
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 3: that's the case, you can't. They're almost impossible to beat.

1223
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 3: So I mean, the Chiefs came in here with grease

1224
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 3: lightning on Sunday. They couldn't get it done. In fact,

1225
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 3: they the Bills were the better team in every phase.

1226
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 3: So I get it. Sometimes people get caught up and

1227
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 3: this guy's not getting used enough, and that guy's just

1228
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 3: worry about the result. They are scoring a ton of points,

1229
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 3: they're controlling the time of possession, they don't turn it over. Man,

1230
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 3: be happy with that, because that is an unbelievable place

1231
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:44,479
Speaker 3: to be in. Most teams can't get there, not every

1232
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 3: week like the Bills are. They can't get there once

1233
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 3: a month. So that's what this is supposed to look like.

1234
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 3: I know it doesn't look like you know, Steph Diggs

1235
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 3: has got ten targets and eight catches for one hundred

1236
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 3: and ninety yards and a touchdown. Oh yeah.

1237
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 4: Now this team's.

1238
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 3: Scoring thirty plus points and holding out of the ball

1239
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 3: for thirty four minutes and winning.

1240
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 2: I mean, that's just tough to be.

1241
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:10,439
Speaker 3: It's tough to beat. I mean, that's where this team

1242
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 3: wants to be. So you know, kind of learn to

1243
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 3: get your arms around.

1244
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 2: It and they'll triage the defense in the interim. Gotta

1245
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:19,479
Speaker 2: take a quick break here. We'll be back with more

1246
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 2: in a flash, and we'll have Reggie Gilliam at some

1247
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 2: point in time as well. After practice on One Bill's Live,

1248
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 2: presented by co Lo out of Health, it's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

1249
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 2: Back here on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

1250
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 2: with you as a practice has wrapped up for the

1251
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 2: day and some rough weather out there, man oh man,

1252
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 2: got some wind and some rain here in the areas.

1253
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 2: It's that time of year and western New York you

1254
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 2: get the driving rain, heavy ins front's coming through, so

1255
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 2: players have wrapped up practice for today. As we mentioned,

1256
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 2: eight players not practicing for the Bills here today. We'll

1257
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 2: see if that number changes tomorrow. We'll get all the

1258
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 2: injury designations when the Wednesday injury report comes out. Dolphin's

1259
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 2: dealing with some injuries of their own, Chop Robinson in

1260
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:24,760
Speaker 2: concussion protocol. Steve saw Rasul Douglas also not out there

1261
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 2: practicing for Miami, So we'll see what the status of

1262
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 2: both teams is, which you know, this time of year,

1263
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 2: you're always going to have a list of people nicked up.

1264
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 2: It just kind of part of the part of the

1265
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:41,599
Speaker 2: deal in the NFL or the deal. We've been talking

1266
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 2: about this roster as it's currently constituted since there were

1267
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 2: no moves at the trade deadline, and we heard Brandon

1268
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 2: Bean's thoughts on that matter. We felt he was a

1269
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 2: little disappointed that he couldn't do anything to improve the roster,

1270
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 2: at least that was his demeanor at the press conference

1271
01:08:57,560 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 2: earlier today. He did a acknowledge that he did call

1272
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 2: some of the AFC East teams that were unloading players,

1273
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 2: and he characterized them as reluctant to do business with

1274
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 2: division opponents, which I think you can understand to a

1275
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 2: certain extent. I think he also said that, you know,

1276
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 2: what they could go after was somewhat limited by their

1277
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 2: cap constraints. I found it interesting that he mentioned that

1278
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 2: league wide, if you were going to do a deal

1279
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:34,559
Speaker 2: with a team that required the team you were working

1280
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 2: with eat some of the money on a player you

1281
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:41,639
Speaker 2: were trying to acquire, that deadline was Monday to sign

1282
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 2: a player to you know, a quote unquote restructured deal

1283
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 2: and then deal them. That deadline was Monday, So clearly

1284
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:50,720
Speaker 2: that was an avenue they were looking at. Also, they

1285
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:53,879
Speaker 2: weren't just looking at we weren't just looking at cheap players.

1286
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 2: They were looking at players that might cost a little

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01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 2: bit more that they need some help from the team

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01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 2: with whom they were dealing to maybe give them some

1289
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 2: relief on the cap hit to make it work. So

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Speaker 2: I think they were exploring that as well. Gotta take

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Speaker 2: a quick break here, because when we come back, we're

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Speaker 2: gonna be joined by Bill's fullback Reggie Gilliam. He'll be

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Speaker 2: in studio with us next here on one Bill's Live,

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Speaker 2: presented by Colta Health's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right back here,

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Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live Chris Brown, Steve Tasser, and joined

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01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 2: in studio by Bill's fullback Reggie Gillium. Reggie, thanks for

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Speaker 2: giving us some time. Appreciate it. And this week's player

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Speaker 2: interview appearance on One Bill's Live is presented by Tim Hortons.

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Speaker 2: Tim Horton's the official coffee of the Buffalo Bills. I

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01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 2: want to begin here reg because probably I would say

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01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 2: the last quarter of last season, we saw some more

1302
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:56,080
Speaker 2: I formation from Joe Brady, some more offset I, and

1303
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 2: you were on the field more on offense, it seemed,

1304
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 2: the last five six games of the regular season, So

1305
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:04,559
Speaker 2: I kind of felt like that was a precursor to

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01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 2: what we are seeing this year. But did you have

1307
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 2: any thoughts or inclinations that, oh, man, we keep making

1308
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 2: this work the way we're making it work, I could

1309
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:16,599
Speaker 2: be on the field a lot more on offense next season.

1310
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 2: Did you go into the offseason feeling that way?

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01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:18,599
Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 16: Absolutely, So, like you said, like the last six or

1313
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 16: seven games of the season, you know, including playoffs, saw

1314
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 16: a large uptick in my snap count. So yeah, I

1315
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 16: was like, I hope this is how it goes going forward.

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01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:30,679
Speaker 16: And then I talked to Kromer and the off season

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01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:31,880
Speaker 16: he was like, Yeah, we're going to do some more

1318
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 16: two BAC sets next year, So I was really.

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01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 3: Looking forward to and that's for sure. Did you guys,

1320
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 3: do you get a feel for particularly the Chiefs game.

1321
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 3: You know it's going to be a dogfight. You know

1322
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:44,639
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to score some points to beat those jokers,

1323
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:47,720
Speaker 3: but you still ran the ball thirty five times only

1324
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 3: through A twenty six? Is there some in game conversations

1325
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 3: you guys have that tells you, Okay, we're gonna now

1326
01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:56,719
Speaker 3: we're gonna keep pounding on these guys, or now we

1327
01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 3: need to air it out. I mean we're kind of conversation.

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Speaker 3: Tell me about the conversation on this.

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01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 16: Yeah, it's kind of the flow of the game. You know,

1330
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Speaker 16: you don't really know going into it, like obviously you

1331
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 16: have a game plan, but you don't know whether it's

1332
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 16: going to be more run more passed. So just kind

1333
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:08,720
Speaker 16: of the flow of the game. And you know, when

1334
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 16: you know Jimo's running the way he's running, you just

1335
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:12,680
Speaker 16: keep going with the hot hand, right.

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Speaker 2: You I don't have to tell you, Like Nick Bolton's

1337
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 2: a load and he brings it right and Trank Will too.

1338
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 2: For what it's worth. I don't know if he packs

1339
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 2: as big as pop as Bolden does, because Bolton's just

1340
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 2: thick all the way through. But between you and Jackson

1341
01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:31,599
Speaker 2: like pulling up through there, like you were laying the wood,

1342
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 2: like how how do be Cause I know, like when

1343
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 2: you get a good one on somebody, you're probably even

1344
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:39,800
Speaker 2: thinking in the moment, oh, that's gonna be fun. The

1345
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 2: film room on money, Yeah, what were what were the

1346
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 2: level of you know, cheers or revelry in the film

1347
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:48,440
Speaker 2: room on Monday when you were watching the film.

1348
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Speaker 16: Back So after the first after the first rep that

1349
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:53,920
Speaker 16: I had against you know, Trank Will, you can actually

1350
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:55,760
Speaker 16: see me celebrating a little because I'm like, that's gonna

1351
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 16: be good on the film. So yeah, it's definitely on

1352
01:12:58,320 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 16: my mind out there on the field. And you got

1353
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 16: a good fit up with somebody who just know, like

1354
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:02,680
Speaker 16: a good thump, and it's like yeah, and then you

1355
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:05,080
Speaker 16: feel Jembo cut off You're it's like, yeah, that's that's great.

1356
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 16: I can't wait to see that one.

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01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:07,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, because the run.

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Speaker 3: Game has really been the story and you've been a

1359
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 3: huge part of it. Give us an idea of what

1360
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:12,839
Speaker 3: the conversation were like when you got into the Atlanta

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01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 3: game on Monday night and man, you're like going, I

1362
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 3: don't know, is this play gonna work again? Kept running

1363
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:18,559
Speaker 3: that toss?

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01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 2: Oh you're talking about Caroline, Carol, You're.

1365
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 3: Gonna run that toss. And it's like, oh my gosh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 16: So yeah, Joe's got a history of if it works,

1368
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:27,559
Speaker 16: keep calling it, right, And.

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Speaker 2: That happened again against the Chiefs because that play with

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Speaker 2: with Jackson in motion, you know, doubles back, you ran

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01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:35,479
Speaker 2: that like half a dozen times.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, at least ten times, Yeah, for sure. And it's

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01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:39,439
Speaker 16: not it's not just that play. There's plenty of other

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01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 16: plays that he's done that before too, and you know,

1375
01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 16: even going back to last season, like, if it works,

1376
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 16: just keep calling it, make them stop it. You know,

1377
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:47,839
Speaker 16: what do you feel?

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01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 2: Because here's the thing, Like you're the number one rushing

1379
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 2: team in football. Oh really, yeah, a number one rushing team,

1380
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:58,760
Speaker 2: a number one total offense in football too now, and

1381
01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 2: teams have to respect your run game, which is almost

1382
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 2: crazy to say, knowing you have an MVP at quarterback

1383
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 2: who can throw it to any part of the field.

1384
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:12,720
Speaker 2: But maybe, I mean, I'm not asking for strategy here,

1385
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:15,680
Speaker 2: but just in general, when you have a run game

1386
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 2: that is that potent, how easy does it make it

1387
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:22,719
Speaker 2: for your coordinator to now play off of that strength

1388
01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 2: knowing that defense has to respect your run game.

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01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:27,639
Speaker 16: Yeah. So it's what we say all the time. It's

1390
01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 16: a mindset. You know, they know what we're going to do,

1391
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 16: but they still have to stop it. So it's just

1392
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:33,559
Speaker 16: it comes down to execution. And of course it makes

1393
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:36,559
Speaker 16: Joe's life easy, and it makes Josh's life easy because

1394
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 16: once you know we're running the ball so well. I

1395
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:40,599
Speaker 16: mean last week or two weeks ago, Jumbo had one

1396
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 16: hundred and fifty a half whatever it is. Yeah, So

1397
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 16: I mean that opens up, you know, play actions whatever

1398
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 16: it may be, because they have to respect the run.

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01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Any conversations about the trade deadline or expectation of the

1401
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 3: guy's talking about, you know, you know what I mean,

1402
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 3: how is it down in the locker room, Because you know,

1403
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 3: we heard her today, Brandon says he was surprised that

1404
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 3: he didn't need a deal done from some buddy.

1405
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:00,759
Speaker 16: Really.

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01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:01,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't, I don't.

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01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:03,320
Speaker 16: I don't really follow too much until that. I just

1408
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:05,880
Speaker 16: kind of focus focus on myself and as long as

1409
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:06,840
Speaker 16: I'm not the one getting traded.

1410
01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:10,600
Speaker 2: Don't worry about what you can't control. You know, you

1411
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 2: still play a pretty prominent role on special teams. And

1412
01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 2: I'm just curious, you know, you're you're eight games in, Uh,

1413
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:20,400
Speaker 2: what are your thoughts on, you know, your new coordinator,

1414
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:23,000
Speaker 2: Chris Taber and and how he runs things, whether it's

1415
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:25,479
Speaker 2: the practice setting on game day. Just give me a

1416
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:27,600
Speaker 2: sense of him, because you know, we're still kind of

1417
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:28,640
Speaker 2: getting familiar.

1418
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 16: With So it took me a little while to get

1419
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:31,479
Speaker 16: warmed with the tapes. Okay, I'm not gonna lie. He

1420
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:33,559
Speaker 16: was a little different than what I've experienced in the past,

1421
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 16: but uh, him coming in, he's he keeps things very

1422
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 16: black and white, very simple, and uh, I'm one of

1423
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 16: those guys it's like super detailed. So it's like he's

1424
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 16: just telling me, oh, here's the big picture of everything. I'm like, okay,

1425
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 16: I need more. Like I'm asking him my Mena's office, like, hey,

1426
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 16: what's this? Like I need the pebbles of everything. He

1427
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 16: just gives boulders. So like we've kind of got a

1428
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:50,720
Speaker 16: rapport now to where it's like he's like, don't just

1429
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 16: run the lines on the paper. I'm like, I need

1430
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:54,040
Speaker 16: the lines on the paper. That's how I play.

1431
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 2: So okay. So so he's become accustomed to you asking

1432
01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:02,160
Speaker 2: for more. So how do those how do those conversations flow? Now?

1433
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 2: Like you just go up to his office and as

1434
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:05,800
Speaker 2: soon as he sees you walk in, he's like, okay,

1435
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:07,639
Speaker 2: well let me get hold on, let me get my details.

1436
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 16: Now he knows because of the meetings. He's like, okay,

1437
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:12,720
Speaker 16: Reggie's gonna need this for me because he you know,

1438
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 16: he likes the details. Like, I'm one of those guys.

1439
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 16: I need to see it spelled out exactly how it is.

1440
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 16: I don't want any great and it's very black or white.

1441
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:20,439
Speaker 3: What's it been like now too? The kickoff there you

1442
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 3: return in seventy something percent of the kickoffs last.

1443
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 2: Year was like it's a live play.

1444
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:26,759
Speaker 16: Now it's a very every.

1445
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 3: Time you kick it, you're gonna cover your kick. Tell

1446
01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 3: us about the guys. Now the conversation are going, how's going.

1447
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:34,799
Speaker 16: It's very different than the old kickoff because it's it's instant.

1448
01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:36,720
Speaker 16: It's like if you get out of your gap, it's

1449
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 16: it's bad news. So it's like you have to be

1450
01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 16: we we look at it like you have to be

1451
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:43,800
Speaker 16: at the twenty five yard line. If you haven't beat

1452
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 16: your man by that time, like, it's bad news. So

1453
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 16: it's like you got to get down there because you know,

1454
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:50,720
Speaker 16: if your backside or anything, you're almost completely irrelevant to

1455
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:52,639
Speaker 16: the play because you know, it's it's like an inside

1456
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 16: zone run honestly.

1457
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:53,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1458
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:56,720
Speaker 3: Right, it's like almost like a scrimmage play. Yeah, you

1459
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 3: know with a fifteen yards.

1460
01:16:57,960 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's been a lot of shit twenty two

1461
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:00,120
Speaker 2: people or move it.

1462
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:02,559
Speaker 16: Yeah, there's a lot of adjustment to it, and it's

1463
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:04,760
Speaker 16: it's like a fast hitting you have a you have

1464
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:06,800
Speaker 16: to have a lot of awareness just knowing where the

1465
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:08,760
Speaker 16: returner is because, like I said, if you're on the

1466
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 16: other side of the field and the returns going right,

1467
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 16: you're on the left.

1468
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:13,320
Speaker 3: You're never gonna get there.

1469
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1470
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:16,879
Speaker 2: What's the what's the level of competition like there? Because

1471
01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 2: I think I think Joe Joe Andreesen currently leads a

1472
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:23,640
Speaker 2: team in special teams tackles. Yeah, were always looking at

1473
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:25,680
Speaker 2: that tally sheet every week to see who's at the

1474
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:26,599
Speaker 2: top of the list.

1475
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:29,720
Speaker 16: Or me and Joe are just like this yeah yeah, yeah,

1476
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 16: he's a beast. I love seeing Joe. The way he's

1477
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:34,480
Speaker 16: developed over these last couple of years has been incredible.

1478
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:37,439
Speaker 2: All Right, it's time now for this week's tim Bit's

1479
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:40,400
Speaker 2: Time Out, presented by of course Tim Horton's where we

1480
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:43,120
Speaker 2: have the fans ask Bills players you need question. This

1481
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:46,559
Speaker 2: one comes from Mason this week, who asks, how is

1482
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 2: it being the Swiss Army Knife in Buffalo playing at

1483
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 2: an all pro level at fullback while always making elite

1484
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:55,200
Speaker 2: plays on special teams. Boy, he really buttered you.

1485
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:56,040
Speaker 16: Out pro level.

1486
01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:58,840
Speaker 2: Look at that he's slathering it on with that question.

1487
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:01,640
Speaker 16: Yeah, thank you playing at a high level. I just

1488
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 16: credit my preparation and the help for my coaches because

1489
01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 16: you know, like I said, I'm very detailed. So I'm

1490
01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:07,760
Speaker 16: you know, and my coaches you're asking how is this

1491
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:09,360
Speaker 16: supposed to look? You know, what if this happens? What

1492
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 16: if that happens. So I like to think that I'm

1493
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 16: very prepared going into the game, and then you know,

1494
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:15,360
Speaker 16: once the game kicks off, like it's all adrenaline at

1495
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:15,719
Speaker 16: that point.

1496
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 3: How difficult because it was very difficult for me to

1497
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:21,720
Speaker 3: play a big time role on offense, particularly in the

1498
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 3: game like you just played, where you're on the field

1499
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:26,080
Speaker 3: for double digit snaps and it's going to be a

1500
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 3: big workload and then balanced like coming off like, oh man,

1501
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 3: now I got to go play these special teams. It

1502
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:32,680
Speaker 3: was it's hard to do both because special teams is

1503
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:33,599
Speaker 3: such a high intensity.

1504
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:36,760
Speaker 16: Yeah it is. You know, it's like every special team

1505
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 16: is right if you know you're about to bang your

1506
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 16: head into a wall, right, well, especially for me at fullback,

1507
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:42,479
Speaker 16: like I do that on offense. You already, So it's

1508
01:18:42,520 --> 01:18:44,320
Speaker 16: just it's a lot of it's a lot of head

1509
01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 16: banging whatever it may be, but it's like you get

1510
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 16: that adrenaline. It's like none of that matters. It's like

1511
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 16: I'm going to whoop the man across from me.

1512
01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then preventative maintenance, like for a guy with

1513
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 2: a high impact position like you, whether it's on offense

1514
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 2: or special teams, as you're just out, what is some

1515
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:05,520
Speaker 2: of your regimen to keep the body right for seventeen

1516
01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:07,640
Speaker 2: games and then some when you get to the postseason,

1517
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:09,519
Speaker 2: Because I mean, we know we have some world class

1518
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:12,639
Speaker 2: stuff here with the hyperbaric chambers and the red light therapy,

1519
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:15,160
Speaker 2: but what's part of your regimen to kind of keep

1520
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 2: the body right?

1521
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:16,040
Speaker 4: Yees?

1522
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 16: So I use everything in here. Every day of the

1523
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 16: week I am in here. There's not a day that

1524
01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 16: I don't come in. There's a lot of times that

1525
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 16: I go out otherwhere and other places and get body

1526
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 16: worked out with some massages or y you know, needling,

1527
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 16: you know, art or whatever it may be. So every

1528
01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 16: day of the week, I'm doing something to make sure

1529
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:33,599
Speaker 16: I'm ready for the next day and then ultimately ready

1530
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 16: for Sunday.

1531
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1532
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:37,760
Speaker 2: Right, Well, Regg listen, thanks for spending some time with us.

1533
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:41,240
Speaker 2: We're gonna pivot now though, to your quarterback Josh Allen,

1534
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 2: who's addressing the media here after practice. And oh, by

1535
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 2: the way, he just called you the best fullback in football,

1536
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:50,879
Speaker 2: So let's hear Josh Allen's comments at the post practice podium.

1537
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:56,000
Speaker 17: Thanks Reg about during the draft process you tend to

1538
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 17: text me in a little bit. Is it similar around

1539
01:19:58,120 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 17: the trade deadline or are you kind of so locked

1540
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:01,639
Speaker 17: into what's going on and you're not really paying.

1541
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 3: Attention much of that.

1542
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 18: Yeah, I'm just kind of locked in what's going on here.

1543
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 18: I trust being and what what he's got what going on.

1544
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:13,479
Speaker 18: I know I can figure maybe the outside perspective of

1545
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:16,560
Speaker 18: people aren't too happy, but again, I trust being, I

1546
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:18,559
Speaker 18: trust the players on this roster. We're going to continue

1547
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:21,160
Speaker 18: to keep getting better each and every week and that's

1548
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:24,639
Speaker 18: our focus. And yeah, that's that's all I care about.

1549
01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:26,720
Speaker 17: The wide receiver group in particular.

1550
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:30,479
Speaker 3: Nobody knows that group better than you. How much confidence

1551
01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:31,679
Speaker 3: do you have in that group looking.

1552
01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:33,599
Speaker 18: Forward the rest of the way, I've got so much confidence.

1553
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:36,960
Speaker 18: I think there's there's so many different things that we

1554
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:38,480
Speaker 18: we can continue to evolve.

1555
01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 16: In our offense with our guys.

1556
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 18: Everybody's got, you know, their own skill set that we

1557
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:45,800
Speaker 18: need to continue to utilize at a at a higher level.

1558
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:47,800
Speaker 18: And that starts with myself of making sure that you know,

1559
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 18: I'm getting the ball to our guys when when they're open,

1560
01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:53,479
Speaker 18: and you know saw it last game. We had ten

1561
01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:56,920
Speaker 18: different completions I believe to ten different guys or completions

1562
01:20:56,920 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 18: to ten different targets last week, you know, And that's

1563
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:00,719
Speaker 18: what we're.

1564
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 14: Gonna need to do.

1565
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 18: We're gonna need to utilize everybody, and like I said,

1566
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 18: guys are gonna have to step up and make some plays,

1567
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:07,040
Speaker 18: but uh, you know, I gotta give him opportunity to

1568
01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 18: do that.

1569
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:10,719
Speaker 19: Actually, talked after the game on Sunday about Stalton Kincaid

1570
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:13,720
Speaker 19: and how you're still even building on that relationship with him.

1571
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 19: How are you guys doing that at this point, Like

1572
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:17,800
Speaker 19: you're already close, but building that rapport at this point

1573
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:19,080
Speaker 19: in the season. What does that look like?

1574
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 18: Yeah, still communicating about what I'm seeing, what he's seeing,

1575
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:25,720
Speaker 18: what he's expecting from me, making sure that we're on

1576
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:28,440
Speaker 18: the same page when it comes to different routes and concepts,

1577
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 18: and you know, again, just just being being better for him.

1578
01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 18: And I talked about that a lot this offseason, and

1579
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:37,840
Speaker 18: I feel like I've given him some opportunities and he's

1580
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:39,679
Speaker 18: made made the most of them this year so far.

1581
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 18: But uh, you know, we're going to continue to need

1582
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:42,200
Speaker 18: him going forward.

1583
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 19: He do for this team. Like, what is he bringing

1584
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:45,960
Speaker 19: to the steam right now?

1585
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 18: Well, again, I think he's a he's tough to match

1586
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:51,679
Speaker 18: up with, you know, if you want to play man

1587
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:54,799
Speaker 18: and put a smaller safety on him or a slower

1588
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:56,280
Speaker 18: linebacker on him.

1589
01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 16: You know, we we feel like we like those matchups.

1590
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 18: But he's so good in zone. He feels zone coverage

1591
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:06,639
Speaker 18: very well, you know, and he's doing a good job

1592
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:09,760
Speaker 18: of getting open and catching the ball that comes.

1593
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 2: To the receivers.

1594
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 20: How much and I know you can't tell us the

1595
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:14,759
Speaker 20: game's rats going on the playbook, but how much.

1596
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 10: Of your sponsors getting your receivers is you're a belief

1597
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:20,680
Speaker 10: in the fact that you guys haven't unlocked everything yet

1598
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:23,519
Speaker 10: and there's still more in this playbook that pertect what

1599
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 10: you guys.

1600
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:24,920
Speaker 4: Shouldn't have down the right.

1601
01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:27,679
Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean, I think that's a big, big part

1602
01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 16: of it.

1603
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:31,280
Speaker 18: Again, we feel very confident in the guys that we

1604
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:34,160
Speaker 18: have in that room, and again just continuing to find

1605
01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:37,000
Speaker 18: ways to utilize their strengths to the best of our abilities,

1606
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:40,639
Speaker 18: you know, and we're always exploring, you know, new ways

1607
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:43,240
Speaker 18: to do that and finding new concepts out there and

1608
01:22:43,439 --> 01:22:45,880
Speaker 18: trying to wrap them in practice and then trusting our

1609
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 18: guys out in the game to go do it. And

1610
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:51,559
Speaker 18: you know, we've talked about the everybody eats mindset for

1611
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 18: a long time now, and I think again this last game,

1612
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:58,440
Speaker 18: just being able to find that and guys having different opportunities,

1613
01:22:58,439 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 18: but you know, not sometimes there's not a lot you know,

1614
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:03,880
Speaker 18: there's only one ball that can go around, and we

1615
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 18: got a lot of very capable guys with the ball

1616
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:09,040
Speaker 18: in their hands. So again just finding ways to continue

1617
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:10,759
Speaker 18: to get the ball to different different receivers.

1618
01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:13,200
Speaker 20: Shawn has talked about that the defense has a new

1619
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:16,679
Speaker 20: attitude recently, and it's a nasty one. Can you guys

1620
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 20: feed off that offensively and then can you embrace it

1621
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:23,400
Speaker 20: also offensively of having a nasty attitude.

1622
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:25,240
Speaker 18: As well on off Yeah, I think that starts with

1623
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:29,719
Speaker 18: the the two lines, you know, the offensive defensive lines.

1624
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:31,960
Speaker 18: And I feel like we got a pretty nasty group

1625
01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:34,679
Speaker 18: up front for us. But coach preaches all the time,

1626
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:38,400
Speaker 18: you know, playing offense in all three phases, in attacking

1627
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:41,360
Speaker 18: and obviously every time we step out in the field

1628
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 18: and every time you know, we have a drive, we

1629
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:45,559
Speaker 18: want to score touchdowns. That's that's our main goal, our

1630
01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:48,920
Speaker 18: main job, and you know it's not likely to happen

1631
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 18: every single drive, but we are as an offense disappointed

1632
01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:55,600
Speaker 18: when we don't come away with points because you know,

1633
01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:59,160
Speaker 18: we feel like at certain points throughout the seasons we've

1634
01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 18: really hurt ourselves, you know, albeit turnovers or penalties, you know,

1635
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:04,800
Speaker 18: and that's the name of the game of limiting those

1636
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 18: and again staying in rhythm and running the ball with

1637
01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 18: James and finding ways to to get some play action

1638
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:13,360
Speaker 18: looks and different drop back looks for our guys. So yeah,

1639
01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 18: just having that attacking mindset, I think it helps.

1640
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 5: Don how well you guys have run the ball this season.

1641
01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:22,679
Speaker 17: Have you seen defenses game plan for the offense differently?

1642
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:26,679
Speaker 18: Maybe slightly different in my career, but I think last

1643
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:29,000
Speaker 18: year teams started to do it a little bit too,

1644
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:33,519
Speaker 18: you know, playing a little more post high and post

1645
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 18: izone and man. But again, we feel like, you know,

1646
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:42,760
Speaker 18: having good weeks of practice and game planning for for

1647
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 18: what teams can be doing, you know, helps us out.

1648
01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:49,439
Speaker 18: But ultimately, when we're in game time situations and if

1649
01:24:49,439 --> 01:24:51,360
Speaker 18: they're not doing something that we practice for, we have

1650
01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 18: to adjust and make a make some in game adjustments,

1651
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:57,280
Speaker 18: which you know, well, we'll keep finding ways to.

1652
01:24:57,200 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 16: Do that, thank Frank.

1653
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:02,559
Speaker 18: Reggie gilliam is a Swiss army knife. I think he's

1654
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:06,639
Speaker 18: the best fullback in football. I mean, you know, when

1655
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 18: we get into our sometimes our big personnel and putting

1656
01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 18: him out there, you never know he's gonna line up

1657
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:13,280
Speaker 18: at tight end, he's gonna line up at full back.

1658
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:15,840
Speaker 18: You know, we've flexed him out a few times and

1659
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 18: put him outside. He's always in the right spot. He's

1660
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:23,160
Speaker 18: always doing his job. He's a key special teamer for us.

1661
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:27,840
Speaker 18: I mean, there's not much more else I can say

1662
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:31,040
Speaker 18: about him. I mean, he really is a true football

1663
01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:34,720
Speaker 18: player and never gets the attention of the limelight that

1664
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 18: he deserves. But I truly believe he's the best fullback

1665
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:37,599
Speaker 18: in football.

1666
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 6: Third, maybe sensing of their frustration from some fans about

1667
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:44,280
Speaker 6: you know, the inactivity in the tree and deadline. What

1668
01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:45,160
Speaker 6: gives you that sense?

1669
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:53,759
Speaker 18: Just media narratives, I guess I don't know. But again,

1670
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:56,200
Speaker 18: we feel confident with who we got in our in

1671
01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:56,839
Speaker 18: our facility.

1672
01:25:58,000 --> 01:25:59,320
Speaker 16: James ankle the rest of the week.

1673
01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:01,600
Speaker 7: But if you know he can't go, how confident you

1674
01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:03,720
Speaker 7: that Ray and Ty can can fill that with?

1675
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:04,160
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1676
01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:07,560
Speaker 18: Very confident in them obviously. It's I said this in

1677
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:11,559
Speaker 18: training camp. There's no replace in James Cook. So hopefully

1678
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:14,040
Speaker 18: you know he's doing everything that he needs to be doing,

1679
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:15,840
Speaker 18: which again he's a true pro, he's going to be

1680
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:18,120
Speaker 18: doing that, and hopefully we can have him back by

1681
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:19,479
Speaker 18: time game time rolls around.

1682
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:23,680
Speaker 20: Should judge spikes in the offensive room? How cool was

1683
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:24,960
Speaker 20: the double spike with Spencer?

1684
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:28,200
Speaker 18: It's pretty cool. That's the best spike I've ever had

1685
01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 18: in my life. I had one early in the game

1686
01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:34,479
Speaker 18: after Dalton's touchdown that wasn't too great, but that that

1687
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:35,480
Speaker 18: second spike.

1688
01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:36,639
Speaker 16: That was a good one.

1689
01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:41,439
Speaker 18: Yeah, Yeah, it was right to me, and I think

1690
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:43,240
Speaker 18: I think mine went a little bit higher than his.

1691
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:45,760
Speaker 16: So yeah, we'll take it.

1692
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:47,880
Speaker 18: I'll give myself a little pat on the back there.

1693
01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:51,479
Speaker 19: It's a revenge game of sorts this week for Jordan Floyer.

1694
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:53,280
Speaker 19: You've known him for so many years. Just how is

1695
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:55,040
Speaker 19: he approaching this week and what is he bringing to

1696
01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 19: the team this year in his kind of you know,

1697
01:26:57,439 --> 01:26:58,160
Speaker 19: second stint here.

1698
01:26:58,240 --> 01:26:59,800
Speaker 18: Yeah, I don't think he's approaching it any different than

1699
01:26:59,840 --> 01:27:02,840
Speaker 18: any other game. You know, he's a true pro, He's

1700
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:05,160
Speaker 18: a true, true veteran. That's why we've brought him back.

1701
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:07,080
Speaker 18: He's going to continue to make some place for us.

1702
01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:08,719
Speaker 18: And he's doing such a good job in that safety

1703
01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:13,479
Speaker 18: room of really relaying information and sharing what he has

1704
01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:16,479
Speaker 18: to some of our young players in there. You know,

1705
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:19,000
Speaker 18: one of my favorite teammates of all time and you know,

1706
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:20,320
Speaker 18: just fortunate to hap him back.

1707
01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:24,719
Speaker 2: All right. So that's Josh Allen addressing the media here

1708
01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:28,640
Speaker 2: after practice. Cold day out there from the wind. We

1709
01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:30,920
Speaker 2: had Reggie here in studio. He shook our hand, he

1710
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:33,759
Speaker 2: felt like the freeze mine. His hands were still cold.

1711
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:35,240
Speaker 2: He was inside for ten minutes or it.

1712
01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:37,320
Speaker 3: Was blowing on his fists, trying to get him to

1713
01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:37,880
Speaker 3: warm up.

1714
01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:41,160
Speaker 2: And you saw Josh there our MSG viewers did with

1715
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 2: his beanie hat.

1716
01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:47,280
Speaker 3: I hated that man. We didn't have the kind of

1717
01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:49,559
Speaker 3: this barn early in my days here. I was here

1718
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 3: when they built this play the fieldhouse. Yeah, I remember,

1719
01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:55,360
Speaker 3: And you know he's practiced outside every day and it

1720
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:55,720
Speaker 3: was one of.

1721
01:27:55,680 --> 01:27:58,200
Speaker 2: The jobs had the bubble, but it was smaller.

1722
01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:01,160
Speaker 3: Very it was hard to use. It was hard to

1723
01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:04,479
Speaker 3: hold a real practice. And then you know you had

1724
01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:07,200
Speaker 3: a rookie that would go outside because we were inside

1725
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:09,400
Speaker 3: all day doing meetings, were down the bowels of this team,

1726
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:11,760
Speaker 3: and he was come in and give us what we

1727
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 3: were supposed to wear for the day. And it was

1728
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:15,200
Speaker 3: like a locker day, which means if it was in

1729
01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:17,439
Speaker 3: your locker, you put it on because you're gonna need it.

1730
01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:20,120
Speaker 3: Or it was like water but warm is wet, but

1731
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:23,360
Speaker 3: warm cold and wet with the whole thing, you know.

1732
01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:27,280
Speaker 3: So we we'd have that wardrobe advice before we got

1733
01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 3: our stuff on. Just at days like today. It's just

1734
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:31,280
Speaker 3: horrible to practice football.

1735
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:34,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd almost take well, it's much like games you'd

1736
01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:38,840
Speaker 2: take twenty eight in snow over like forty in rain.

1737
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:43,720
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, like any day of the week. Absolutely absolutely,

1738
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:45,479
Speaker 2: because you'll never get dry.

1739
01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:48,439
Speaker 3: You never get dry, and once you're wet, forget it.

1740
01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:52,800
Speaker 3: Just you know, guys are in there taking literally thirty

1741
01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 3: minute showers trying to get warm back up steam coming

1742
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:59,960
Speaker 3: out of that thing, and they're right there. It's just horrible.

1743
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:01,760
Speaker 3: Oh well, that's all right though.

1744
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:04,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, so not this weekend. We will know it's supposed

1745
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:09,280
Speaker 2: to be eighty two on Sunday for kickoff in Miami.

1746
01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:10,639
Speaker 3: Let's score eighty two.

1747
01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:16,040
Speaker 2: Oh wow, you really want to go put it on him? Huh. Yeah,

1748
01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:19,479
Speaker 2: gotta wait and see if they have available. I do, actually, okay,

1749
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:23,160
Speaker 2: you gotta wait and see who they have available first. Uh.

1750
01:29:23,240 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 2: The Wednesday injury report will be out within the next hour.

1751
01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:26,439
Speaker 3: Here.

1752
01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:31,000
Speaker 2: Hopefully some of those players are back on the practice field. Thursday.

1753
01:29:31,439 --> 01:29:35,280
Speaker 2: You heard Josh Allen address James Cook's absence from practice

1754
01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:38,200
Speaker 2: ankle and foot a little sore after he got bent

1755
01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:41,720
Speaker 2: backwards awkwardly in the first half of that game. We

1756
01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:44,840
Speaker 2: knew that something was up because he came to the sidelines,

1757
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:47,519
Speaker 2: got all spatted up, and then finished the game, but

1758
01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:49,439
Speaker 2: sores a little beat up.

1759
01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:51,439
Speaker 3: Long way to Sunday, Long way to Sunday.

1760
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:53,880
Speaker 2: That's it for us today. The Hall of Famer Thurman

1761
01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:56,639
Speaker 2: Thomas joins us tomorrow for the Thursday edition of One

1762
01:29:56,640 --> 01:29:57,720
Speaker 2: Bills Live. We'll see it won

1763
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:00,760
Speaker 17: He