WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Facing The Giants' Offense 0:00:04.040 --> 0:00:06.520 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.519 --> 0:00:09.680 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 0:00:09.760 --> 0:00:13.440 a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:13.560 --> 0:00:17.759 Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:18.000 --> 0:00:22.120 It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:22.239 --> 0:00:28.280 Wall with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and 0:00:28.600 --> 0:00:33.519 Derek Eagleton. It is Wednesday, September sixth, twoy seventeen, Season thirteen, 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:36.440 episode number thirty three. Welcome to new edition of The 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:40.040 Break Lafness WBC Mortgage Studios. We've got a lot to 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:44.760 get into today. We've got results from Zeke Elliot's appeal 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:48.760 that came down yesterday. We'll talk about that. We'll talk 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:51.919 about Morris to what's to come for Ezekiel Eliot. We'll 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:54.480 also get into Cowboys versus Giants Today. We're gonna talk 0:00:54.520 --> 0:00:58.160 about the Giants offense and some of the things Cowboys 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:00.200 are gonna have to face defensively and trying to stop 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:02.880 Eli Manning and crew. But before we get to that, 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:06.319 how's everybody doing this morning? What you're doing? Good? Good? 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:08.800 Everybody is doing good, very good. All right, let's jump 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:12.800 right in. Let's talk about Ezekuel Elliott yesterday. The word 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:16.679 comes down yesterday evening that the appeal to Harold Henderson 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:21.080 was denied. And so the thing that came out of 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:23.399 that that was most interesting I thought was, and we 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:25.680 talked a little bit about this on the show yesterday, 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:28.560 it seems as though, even though there isn't a written 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:31.839 rule that if they don't have something to the teams 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:36.759 about these suspensions on Tuesday by Tuesday afternoon that they 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:39.920 would that it would it wouldn't affect that week's game. 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:42.800 Sounds like it did affect this week's game. And because 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:45.920 of that, even though the appeal was denied, Ezekuel Elliott 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:48.720 will still be able to play this weekend versus the Giants, 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:53.120 and then presumably the suspension would start next week. Now 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:56.720 that's all pending. Also, this thing that's going to happen 0:01:56.760 --> 0:01:58.720 this Friday, Dave, what do you know about I guess 0:01:58.720 --> 0:02:00.280 at this point, what do you know about what's going 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:03.120 to happen Friday and how that could affect Ezekiel going 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:06.640 forward beyond just this week? As far as I understand it, 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:10.440 it's everything. I mean, Amos Mazan is going to rule 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:14.480 on this temporary restraining order injunction I think those are 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:16.680 the same thing. I didn't go to law school, but 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:20.359 it's basically it's a stay. It's a stay of the suspension. 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:23.919 He's going to rule on whether it has merit. If 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:28.000 he rules in Zeke's favor, then the suspension is stayed 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:30.600 while this whole thing gets sorted out in court, which, 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:32.880 if I had to guess, we'll take a long time. 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:35.200 And it gives him a very good shot of being 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:38.239 available for the whole season, if not at least for 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:41.880 the foreseeable future. If he rules against Zeke, then he's 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:45.480 suspended after I would imagine Monday morning, right after the 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:49.720 Giants game, and he'll serve it weeks two through probably eight, 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:51.680 because I think there's a bye week in there somewhere. 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:55.040 So you got you start with Denver, and I think 0:02:55.040 --> 0:03:00.520 he'd be due to come back the week at the Redskins, 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:03.520 the Redskins game, I think, which would at the Redskins. Yes, 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:07.280 so you trade a division game for another division game. 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:10.280 Basically you lose him for the Redskins, but gain him 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:13.600 for the Giants or maybe preferable. Well yeah, I mean 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:16.280 so that seems to be the harder of those two games, 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:19.560 but who knows. I feel I mean, that's another conversation, 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:21.600 but I feel like people don't aren't giving the Redskins 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:24.480 a lot of credit this year, well relative to the Giants. Anyway, 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:27.000 we'll get into that that Giants discussion. Nick. I know 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:31.240 yesterday you mentioned you were talking about your expectations for 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:34.280 the appeal, and so I wonder were you Were you surprised, 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:37.080 I know you thought that you would gets decreased. Were 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:40.560 you surprised like it won't be decreased at all? It 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:42.560 sounds like now it's it's it's either going to be 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:46.880 six or zero. There's no chance to I don't it's six. 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:49.080 I don't think there's a zero. The only way with 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:51.720 Zeros if he wins in court rights which point right, 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:55.080 which and which I guess when that would be served? Though, 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:56.880 I guess that's my point. I'm sorry, you're right, but 0:03:57.600 --> 0:04:02.280 if it's gonna be next year or though if that, 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:03.960 if he wins in court, you know what I'm saying. 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:07.680 I mean, I think something that's getting overlooked here is 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:09.600 the fact that I don't know if it's just the 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:15.720 Tuesday deadline, I think also Saturday's deadline is important too 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:18.240 for the league. I mean because most players that are 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:22.800 suspended go straight to that list, and the Cowboys they 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:26.039 didn't have to cut anybody for David Irving or Demontre Moore, 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:29.200 so they had to cut someone for Ezekiel Elliott. So 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:31.080 if you're going to come back and say, all right, 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:34.320 now he is suspended, you had to make roster moves 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:36.520 for that. They don't know that Andy Jones wasn't a 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:38.520 player that they wanted to keep and had to cut, 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:40.080 and now the Texans have I mean, they don't know 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:43.159 all that. They made a roster move because of it 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:45.240 and now they had to change it. So that I 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:48.240 think factored into this week as well. I think that, 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:50.479 I mean, they didn't have to do that. I think 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:53.640 it was. It's weird to say, because this whole thing 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:56.440 has been incredibly contentious, but it was basically a show 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:59.320 of good faith, like, hey, you know, we didn't really 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:01.200 get this to you. You in a manner that is 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:05.640 in keeping with competitive advantage and your roster needs and 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:07.559 all that. You had to keep this guy on the team. 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:11.200 So they're letting him play for a game, which, honestly, 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:14.400 I'm a little bit surprised. Like I said, this whole 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:18.000 thing has been incredibly contentious. I figured they yank him 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:20.800 out of there so amber looking at all this stuff 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:22.520 and everything that's time. I'm just saying out of the 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:25.680 conversation just because I think this thing has been such 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:28.760 a big mess since the beginning, and it's so hard 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:31.520 for me to form an opinion on everything that's going on, 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:34.560 just because I really don't understand all the facts. I mean, 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:37.760 it's been pretty confusing the whole process of it. And 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:40.920 aside from that, I still till this point don't know 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:44.520 what's true and what isn't. So it's hard for me 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:48.800 to argue, like, yeah, should they reduce the suspension take 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:51.280 it off or not. Yeah, the process of the whole 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:54.760 thing has been terrible and that is something that the 0:05:54.880 --> 0:06:00.240 NFL should fix and that's something that you should battle against. 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:04.599 But at the same time, aside from all that, given 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:08.239 the fact that the reason of the suspension, I still 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:11.320 don't know how much of it is true or not, 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:14.520 So I'm just staying out of it. Let's see what happens. 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:16.200 Good for staying out of it. Don't you know that 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:18.680 you're supposed to shoot from the hip and worry about 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:20.840 whether or not you have it right later? I mean, 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:24.360 that's the right way this goes in twenty seventeen. Right, 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:26.680 It's cool to be speculated. Oh this might have and 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:29.159 this might not. But I'm just tired of it. I'm 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:31.000 just ready for the whole thing to end and come 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:33.919 to a conclusion, which doesn't seem like that will be 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:35.280 the case. It's you know, it's like it's going to 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:38.360 be taking a longer time. Yeah, you know. It's interesting 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:41.159 about that opinion that you just gave. Is I think 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:44.719 that probably is about nine fans out there, and I 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:47.520 think that's really the issue for the NFL is they've 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:53.680 created this secondary court essentially. But the secondary court is 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:57.360 not what we know of an American justice system. It's 0:06:57.400 --> 0:07:01.880 not based upon necessarily rules of what's proper, what's right, 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:05.520 what's just. It's based upon precedence, it's not based upon 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:09.920 anything more than basically comes down to one man's judgment, 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:13.000 one man's judgment as to what's best for the league. 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:15.160 And that doesn't even have anything necessarily to do with 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:19.320 whether there are there's there's corroborating evidence that this is 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:21.600 true or this is true. It's I look at all 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:23.720 the facts, I look at all the evidence, I look 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:26.040 at all the things I think, and then I, as 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:29.360 a single person, being the commissioner, make a decision, and 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:32.480 I think it leaves fans like, like what you just expressed. 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:34.280 I think it leaves fans in a situation where they 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:37.680 don't understand the process, they don't understand the facts, and 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:40.560 they just feel like, what's going on here? I can't 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:44.120 understand what's going on with this whole situation. I'm sorry, 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:46.000 Go ahead, Oh, I was just gonna say, even if 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:49.720 the facts and the evidence it's all there, let's say 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:54.040 he should deserve the suspension. Even if that was the case, 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:58.040 it's still hard something. It's still something hard to argue 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:01.760 with when the process it's completely messed up, so it's 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:04.080 like one thing against the other, and you just don't 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:08.360 know obviously whether the evidence, like if it does deserve 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:11.000 the suspension, I don't know. But if he does, I 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:13.600 mean he should get it. But at the same time, 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:16.440 it's the process is so messed up that it's just 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:20.200 a hard argument. How does the NBA and MLB avoid this, 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:23.480 Because I mean, I know that they've got six hundred 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:26.440 two thousand guys in their league. They're definitely not all angels. 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:29.520 They definitely all they definitely guys in those leagues get 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:32.560 in legal trouble. But and maybe it's because I'm not 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:34.880 what neck deep in it like I am with the NFL, 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:37.280 but just don't doesn't seem like they have to deal 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:39.960 with this where like literally every year in the NFL 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:43.200 there is a situation like this where a fan base 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:47.400 or a player is fighting the league about something arbitrary. 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:51.800 I mean, it's Zeke right now, it's it was Tom Brady, yeah, 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:54.400 I mean it's just every year, Like I said, I 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:56.120 think you can go back and find an example where 0:08:56.160 --> 0:09:00.560 there's this like contentious court situation where nobody really understands 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:03.640 what's going on, and it kind of just maybe maybe 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:06.439 maybe that's their answer, right there, is what Derek was 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:09.720 just saying. Maybe that you know, Adam Silver just kind 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:13.079 of he's a commissioner of the NBA. He doesn't really 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:16.120 try to be sheriff of like the the league as well. 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:17.920 I mean that that might be part of it, But 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:20.960 you know, I think I think if you're the Giants, 0:09:22.200 --> 0:09:24.280 they have a right to be frustrated with this as well. 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:25.760 I mean, this is this is one of the star 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:29.240 players of the league that's going to play in this 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:33.160 game because they didn't get their stuff together for a 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:35.800 few days. They missed it by a few days, so 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:38.480 thirteen months that they waited on this. Then I think 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:40.319 they tried to just kind of throw it in there 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:42.840 and say okay, and then that maybe the Cowboys would 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:46.160 back down, or the ze Zeke would back down, and 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:48.280 maybe they would try to appeel it and get it 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:50.360 reduced whatever. But he took it to a higher court, 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:51.880 and it's going to take it to even higher one. 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:56.200 And now, I mean because of all this that the 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:58.040 Giants are the ones that, you know, they have to 0:09:58.080 --> 0:10:00.520 face this this player. And I don't if he's gonna 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:02.000 I don't know how great he's gonna be or good 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:03.960 he's gonna be. But it's just kind of a weird 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:06.640 situation that came down to a couple of days. Well, 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:10.480 they had so much time to do this. Dam they 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:12.320 want to play him anyway. That's what land That's what 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:15.440 Landon Collins said yesterday. He's wrong. I mean, he's lying. 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:17.440 He doesn't want to play You don't want to play 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:22.240 Zeke over over, you know, Darren McFadden and Alfred Morris. 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:25.120 I bet I think Ben McAdoo probably feels that way. 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:27.320 But I bet Landon Collins wants to play him like 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:30.960 when you're like that, when you're that dude. Damon Harrison 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:33.560 wants to stuff Zeke like he doesn't want to stuff Darren. 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:35.880 To be honestly, I think they probably look at it, well, 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:38.320 we've stopped him before, we think we can stop him again. Okay, 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:42.280 you're Orlando Skendrick, you want thirteen or not? Probably not. 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:48.000 I mean, I don't know that the Cowboys have a 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:51.000 defensive back on par with Landon Collins or gen Norris 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:53.880 Jenkins for that matter, So well, yeah, that's but no, 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:57.120 I mean I'm joking around. I know. It's just like 0:10:57.200 --> 0:10:59.679 when you're a competitor at that level, you probably they 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:02.280 probably do want thirteen. Scandrick would never tell you that 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:03.839 he doesn't want thirteen, And to be honest with you, 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:05.920 I think I kind of would believe him that he's 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:08.040 okay with the idea of going out and covering Beckham 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:10.280 and even if he gets beats some plays, he feels like, 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:13.120 I'll hold own I'll win my fair share as well. 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:15.480 I don't think he's I don't think NFL players buying 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:18.480 large are afraid of the competence. That's the scary part though, 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:21.800 holding your own and maybe give up a player. Two. 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:25.040 That was Brandon Car's game against Beckham last year. He 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:28.600 had a really nice game against them, but they he 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:30.720 gave up a slant over the middle. I think Church 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:33.240 or Wilcox or one of the two didn't didn't do 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:36.080 their job touchdown and that was the difference in the game. 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:39.680 So you know, these games are so close that you 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:41.760 know you can't just it's just one or two players 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:43.880 here and there could change everything. Let's jump right in. 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:46.360 Let's talk about Cowboys versus Giants. We're gonna talk about 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:50.319 this Giants offense, and I guess let's start with the quarterback. 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:53.120 Last year when the Cowboys played at the Giants, Eli 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:57.240 had pretty much almost exactly statistically the same day. In 0:11:57.320 --> 0:11:59.760 both those two games. He was nineteen for twenty eight 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:02.400 hundred and seven yards, three touchdowns, an interception in the 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:05.480 first game, and then seventeen to twenty eight one hundred 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:08.240 ninety three yards, a touchdown, an interception in the second game. 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:12.440 Nothing that was spectacular from a statistical standpoint, but enough 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:14.680 to win. He got gave his team in the end 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:16.599 zone three times in the first game, got him in 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:18.920 the end zone one time in the second game. Um, 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:21.840 what was there anything that stood out in that game 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:24.160 that you can remember back that you thought that he 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:29.000 did particularly well or didn't do particularly well against the Cowboys. Well, 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:34.320 he's he gets the ball out quickly. And so, I mean, 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:37.080 I know later on we're gonna talk about their offensive line, 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:39.839 and I think that's one of the ways that they 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:42.520 get past having a line that's not so good is 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:45.520 because he doesn't he doesn't sit there and hold the 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:48.199 ball for very long. And you have to have quick, 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:51.840 speedy receivers or strong receivers to do that. And so 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:54.520 that they've kind of surrounded himself with with some really 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:58.520 good playmakers, both young and old. I guess if you'd 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:02.479 say Brandon Marshall's old but um my NFL standard, but yeah, 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:04.840 but very productive and so and so I think that 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:06.880 he's got good weapons around him. He gets the ball 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:10.000 out quick. Um, he's never been the most mobile, but 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:14.560 sure does play every game. I Mean, you can say 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:16.840 what you want about a dumb faces and the you know, 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:19.520 whatever they call it, but he's tough. You know, he's 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:22.040 stuff as nails because he doesn't ever miss games. Yeah, 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:24.640 and he's not like he's avoiding a lot of big hits. 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:28.160 You mentioned that offensive line. That offensive line gave up 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:31.199 only twenty two sacks last year as suspect as they are, 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:35.319 that's third best in the league. So yes, that's him exactly. 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:37.640 And then my point is as a unit, they know 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:39.560 how to get the ball out. They don't take a 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:42.760 lot of a lot of sacks because of their their 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:44.960 play for however good or bad. We think it is 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:48.319 that that means something, and that that means something, especially 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:50.600 now that he has some better weapons than he had 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:54.520 last year, indus receivers and tight ends. Yeah, and the 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:58.000 thing that I'm maybe not scarce, but the thing that 0:13:58.080 --> 0:14:01.480 I'm looking at is that he they have surrounded him 0:14:01.520 --> 0:14:03.520 with guys that he can get the ball too quickly. 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:08.000 Odell Beckham doesn't Brandon Marshall. Maybe he's more of a traditional, 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:10.200 like you know, deep threat. I don't think of him 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:12.160 as like a quick twitch, speedy guy. He's like a 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:17.560 long strider. But Beckham, Shepherd and then this Ingram kid. 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:21.120 I'm terrified of what Evan Ingram might do for their offense. 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:23.640 And the fact that you're not looking at guys that 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:25.360 need a long time to get down the field and 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:27.120 get open. And I think that's what it's going to 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:29.160 look like. Talk to me about Evan Ingram. You did 0:14:29.200 --> 0:14:31.400 the Draft show last year. Talk to me about he's 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:35.240 a rookie this year. What things coming out of college 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:38.320 were things that he supposedly did well? What things maybe 0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:41.640 did he not do so well? Well. It's a misnomer 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:43.920 to really label him a tight end because he's just 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:46.120 a big bodied receiver. That's what he is. I mean, 0:14:46.320 --> 0:14:49.600 he's he's that. He's not even as bulky as like 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:52.400 Jimmy Graham though, but he's that Jimmy They you know, 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:54.760 the red zone, Jimmy Graham, go up and get the ball, 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:57.160 fast tight end who's probably not going to help you 0:14:57.200 --> 0:14:59.920 a lot as a blocker. Having said that, and you know, 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:02.960 people kind of derided the Giants when they picked him 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:06.120 because they're like, you had a chance to to upgrade 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:08.880 your offensive line and you took a you know, a 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:12.440 non blocking tight end instead. You know, you need you 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:14.160 need to block for Eli so he can get the 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:17.880 ball to all these receivers. They I think they could 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:21.000 have had Ryan ramcheck the Wisconsin tackle and they decided 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:25.160 not to go that way. So, but having said that, 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:30.240 it's been it's been impressive that he's he's playing three downs, 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:32.640 he's doing everything for them like they're not. He's not 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:35.240 doing subpackage stuff, he doesn't have like a limited role. 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:37.680 He's just their number one tight end, which I did 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:40.280 not expect, knowing what I know about his skill set, 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:41.920 I didn't think he'd be ready for that right off 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:44.280 the bat. And no, he's not going to be Jason Witten. 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:46.360 But if he can do just enough to help in 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:49.000 the blocking game and stuff, if he's on the field, 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:51.560 you know ninety percent of their snaps, I have a 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:53.920 feeling he's going to be trouble to deal with. Yeah, 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:55.680 I hear Brian say this all the time about tight 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:59.040 ends blocking. It's more about the willingness of the blocker 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:01.600 than sometimes is your ability to block. If you know 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:02.800 how to get in the way, you know how to 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:04.600 turn your body a certain way, you're willing to do 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:06.720 it exactly, then you can be you can be an 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:09.040 effective blocker, not be great, but you can be an 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:11.640 effective blocker. And so from that standpoint, maybe that's how 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:13.080 they look at it this first year is can they 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:15.560 get him to be an effective blocker? Just you know, 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:17.520 get in the way, make sure he opens it, you 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:19.360 know it. Just move your body to a certain way 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:21.320 and just be in the way. Keep a guy from 0:16:21.320 --> 0:16:23.960 getting between you and and the ball carrier. Truth be told. 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:25.760 And I'm sure he'd be upset with me saying this, 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:28.800 but I bet Jason Witten that's pretty much the way 0:16:28.880 --> 0:16:32.480 his career started as a blocker. Now has he developed 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:37.240 technique along the way, sure, but I think for the 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:39.880 most part he's been a willing blocker. He knows how 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:42.400 to use leverage getting the way, and then you know, 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:44.480 he's kind of picked up some some you know, tricks 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:46.640 of the trade along the way. But I think that 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:48.720 that's kind of how it started with him. You know, 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:51.560 he's never been having this overpowering strength, but he can 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:56.200 block defensive ends and he'll wham the nose. That the 0:16:56.200 --> 0:17:00.280 story if they it's if it needs to be, it's 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:02.080 gonna be interesting to watch because, like I said, I mean, 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:04.000 they had a chance they could have gotten a tackle 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:06.040 that they could plug right in there, and I know 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:08.520 everybody knows that that's a weakness for the Giants, and 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:11.280 they decided not to do it. And tight end is 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:13.560 such a hard position to adapt to. I mean, you 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:15.840 think about first round tight ends in the last five years, 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:19.000 most of them don't make a huge impact in year one. 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:22.200 Eric Ebron is a guy that's burned me in fantasy 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:27.000 more times than I can count. But if he plays 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:29.760 as well as the reviews indicate out of training camp, 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:31.960 and that's not a guarantee, I know that, but if 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:35.119 I mean, the reviews have been great, and if he 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:37.440 is ready to go at that level right away, that 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:40.000 will be I mean, that sounds like it would be 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:43.320 really good for them. I have high expectations for what 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:45.600 he might be. And if you see, sorry, if you 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:49.280 see some of the preseason games and some of the 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:54.120 plays he's made with ELI, you can tell they've had 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:57.280 a pretty good connection. He was somewhat of a constant 0:17:57.320 --> 0:18:01.280 target for him, So the connection between them two has 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:05.800 been pretty good as compared to Marshall, which he I 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:09.960 believe he missed two preseason games to due to an injury. Yeah. 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:13.080 So the only good side of that, aside from him 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:16.840 being a great player as well, is that he hasn't 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:21.160 had as much time in real game time with him 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:25.360 on the field with ELI, So let's hope that works 0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:27.720 in a positive way for that. I'll say this about 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:30.640 Brandon Marshall, and I believe I'm right on this one. 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:33.000 He's the only player in the history of the NFL 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:36.000 to make the Pro Bowl with four different teams. Thousand 0:18:36.080 --> 0:18:38.159 yards seasons with four different teams. Yeah, he's one of 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:40.639 my thousand too. He has had a thousand yards with 0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:42.920 four different clubs. Yeah, And so I know, I know, 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:45.520 you know, there's been some Pro bowlers for three different teams, 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:47.800 but not four. And you know, I don't know if 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:50.040 he has a chance for five. We'll see. But to 0:18:50.520 --> 0:18:53.080 your point, or to offset that point, I think he's 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:56.760 picked it up with different quarterbacks you know, here and there, 0:18:56.800 --> 0:18:58.840 and most of them haven't been great. Most of them 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:00.840 are not at the at the level love Eli Manning. 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:03.560 So I think he'll be He'll be fine. Plus he's 0:19:03.640 --> 0:19:05.800 not he's not the guy that scares you the most 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:07.320 on that team. 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