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Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. It is Wednesday, September sixth, twoy seventeen, Season thirteen,
Speaker 1: episode number thirty three. Welcome to new edition of The
Speaker 1: Break Lafness WBC Mortgage Studios. We've got a lot to
Speaker 1: get into today. We've got results from Zeke Elliot's appeal
Speaker 1: that came down yesterday. We'll talk about that. We'll talk
Speaker 1: about Morris to what's to come for Ezekiel Eliot. We'll
Speaker 1: also get into Cowboys versus Giants Today. We're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about the Giants offense and some of the things Cowboys
Speaker 1: are gonna have to face defensively and trying to stop
Speaker 1: Eli Manning and crew. But before we get to that,
Speaker 1: how's everybody doing this morning? What you're doing? Good? Good?
Speaker 1: Everybody is doing good, very good. All right, let's jump
Speaker 1: right in. Let's talk about Ezekuel Elliott yesterday. The word
Speaker 1: comes down yesterday evening that the appeal to Harold Henderson
Speaker 1: was denied. And so the thing that came out of
Speaker 1: that that was most interesting I thought was, and we
Speaker 1: talked a little bit about this on the show yesterday,
Speaker 1: it seems as though, even though there isn't a written
Speaker 1: rule that if they don't have something to the teams
Speaker 1: about these suspensions on Tuesday by Tuesday afternoon that they
Speaker 1: would that it would it wouldn't affect that week's game.
Speaker 1: Sounds like it did affect this week's game. And because
Speaker 1: of that, even though the appeal was denied, Ezekuel Elliott
Speaker 1: will still be able to play this weekend versus the Giants,
Speaker 1: and then presumably the suspension would start next week. Now
Speaker 1: that's all pending. Also, this thing that's going to happen
Speaker 1: this Friday, Dave, what do you know about I guess
Speaker 1: at this point, what do you know about what's going
Speaker 1: to happen Friday and how that could affect Ezekiel going
Speaker 1: forward beyond just this week? As far as I understand it,
Speaker 1: it's everything. I mean, Amos Mazan is going to rule
Speaker 1: on this temporary restraining order injunction I think those are
Speaker 1: the same thing. I didn't go to law school, but
Speaker 1: it's basically it's a stay. It's a stay of the suspension.
Speaker 1: He's going to rule on whether it has merit. If
Speaker 1: he rules in Zeke's favor, then the suspension is stayed
Speaker 1: while this whole thing gets sorted out in court, which,
Speaker 1: if I had to guess, we'll take a long time.
Speaker 1: And it gives him a very good shot of being
Speaker 1: available for the whole season, if not at least for
Speaker 1: the foreseeable future. If he rules against Zeke, then he's
Speaker 1: suspended after I would imagine Monday morning, right after the
Speaker 1: Giants game, and he'll serve it weeks two through probably eight,
Speaker 1: because I think there's a bye week in there somewhere.
Speaker 1: So you got you start with Denver, and I think
Speaker 1: he'd be due to come back the week at the Redskins,
Speaker 1: the Redskins game, I think, which would at the Redskins. Yes,
Speaker 1: so you trade a division game for another division game.
Speaker 1: Basically you lose him for the Redskins, but gain him
Speaker 1: for the Giants or maybe preferable. Well yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: so that seems to be the harder of those two games,
Speaker 1: but who knows. I feel I mean, that's another conversation,
Speaker 1: but I feel like people don't aren't giving the Redskins
Speaker 1: a lot of credit this year, well relative to the Giants. Anyway,
Speaker 1: we'll get into that that Giants discussion. Nick. I know
Speaker 1: yesterday you mentioned you were talking about your expectations for
Speaker 1: the appeal, and so I wonder were you Were you surprised,
Speaker 1: I know you thought that you would gets decreased. Were
Speaker 1: you surprised like it won't be decreased at all? It
Speaker 1: sounds like now it's it's it's either going to be
Speaker 1: six or zero. There's no chance to I don't it's six.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a zero. The only way with
Speaker 1: Zeros if he wins in court rights which point right,
Speaker 1: which and which I guess when that would be served? Though,
Speaker 1: I guess that's my point. I'm sorry, you're right, but
Speaker 1: if it's gonna be next year or though if that,
Speaker 1: if he wins in court, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think something that's getting overlooked here is
Speaker 1: the fact that I don't know if it's just the
Speaker 1: Tuesday deadline, I think also Saturday's deadline is important too
Speaker 1: for the league. I mean because most players that are
Speaker 1: suspended go straight to that list, and the Cowboys they
Speaker 1: didn't have to cut anybody for David Irving or Demontre Moore,
Speaker 1: so they had to cut someone for Ezekiel Elliott. So
Speaker 1: if you're going to come back and say, all right,
Speaker 1: now he is suspended, you had to make roster moves
Speaker 1: for that. They don't know that Andy Jones wasn't a
Speaker 1: player that they wanted to keep and had to cut,
Speaker 1: and now the Texans have I mean, they don't know
Speaker 1: all that. They made a roster move because of it
Speaker 1: and now they had to change it. So that I
Speaker 1: think factored into this week as well. I think that,
Speaker 1: I mean, they didn't have to do that. I think
Speaker 1: it was. It's weird to say, because this whole thing
Speaker 1: has been incredibly contentious, but it was basically a show
Speaker 1: of good faith, like, hey, you know, we didn't really
Speaker 1: get this to you. You in a manner that is
Speaker 1: in keeping with competitive advantage and your roster needs and
Speaker 1: all that. You had to keep this guy on the team.
Speaker 1: So they're letting him play for a game, which, honestly,
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit surprised. Like I said, this whole
Speaker 1: thing has been incredibly contentious. I figured they yank him
Speaker 1: out of there so amber looking at all this stuff
Speaker 1: and everything that's time. I'm just saying out of the
Speaker 1: conversation just because I think this thing has been such
Speaker 1: a big mess since the beginning, and it's so hard
Speaker 1: for me to form an opinion on everything that's going on,
Speaker 1: just because I really don't understand all the facts. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's been pretty confusing the whole process of it. And
Speaker 1: aside from that, I still till this point don't know
Speaker 1: what's true and what isn't. So it's hard for me
Speaker 1: to argue, like, yeah, should they reduce the suspension take
Speaker 1: it off or not. Yeah, the process of the whole
Speaker 1: thing has been terrible and that is something that the
Speaker 1: NFL should fix and that's something that you should battle against.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, aside from all that, given
Speaker 1: the fact that the reason of the suspension, I still
Speaker 1: don't know how much of it is true or not,
Speaker 1: So I'm just staying out of it. Let's see what happens.
Speaker 1: Good for staying out of it. Don't you know that
Speaker 1: you're supposed to shoot from the hip and worry about
Speaker 1: whether or not you have it right later? I mean,
Speaker 1: that's the right way this goes in twenty seventeen. Right,
Speaker 1: It's cool to be speculated. Oh this might have and
Speaker 1: this might not. But I'm just tired of it. I'm
Speaker 1: just ready for the whole thing to end and come
Speaker 1: to a conclusion, which doesn't seem like that will be
Speaker 1: the case. It's you know, it's like it's going to
Speaker 1: be taking a longer time. Yeah, you know. It's interesting
Speaker 1: about that opinion that you just gave. Is I think
Speaker 1: that probably is about nine fans out there, and I
Speaker 1: think that's really the issue for the NFL is they've
Speaker 1: created this secondary court essentially. But the secondary court is
Speaker 1: not what we know of an American justice system. It's
Speaker 1: not based upon necessarily rules of what's proper, what's right,
Speaker 1: what's just. It's based upon precedence, it's not based upon
Speaker 1: anything more than basically comes down to one man's judgment,
Speaker 1: one man's judgment as to what's best for the league.
Speaker 1: And that doesn't even have anything necessarily to do with
Speaker 1: whether there are there's there's corroborating evidence that this is
Speaker 1: true or this is true. It's I look at all
Speaker 1: the facts, I look at all the evidence, I look
Speaker 1: at all the things I think, and then I, as
Speaker 1: a single person, being the commissioner, make a decision, and
Speaker 1: I think it leaves fans like, like what you just expressed.
Speaker 1: I think it leaves fans in a situation where they
Speaker 1: don't understand the process, they don't understand the facts, and
Speaker 1: they just feel like, what's going on here? I can't
Speaker 1: understand what's going on with this whole situation. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Oh, I was just gonna say, even if
Speaker 1: the facts and the evidence it's all there, let's say
Speaker 1: he should deserve the suspension. Even if that was the case,
Speaker 1: it's still hard something. It's still something hard to argue
Speaker 1: with when the process it's completely messed up, so it's
Speaker 1: like one thing against the other, and you just don't
Speaker 1: know obviously whether the evidence, like if it does deserve
Speaker 1: the suspension, I don't know. But if he does, I
Speaker 1: mean he should get it. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: it's the process is so messed up that it's just
Speaker 1: a hard argument. How does the NBA and MLB avoid this,
Speaker 1: Because I mean, I know that they've got six hundred
Speaker 1: two thousand guys in their league. They're definitely not all angels.
Speaker 1: They definitely all they definitely guys in those leagues get
Speaker 1: in legal trouble. But and maybe it's because I'm not
Speaker 1: what neck deep in it like I am with the NFL,
Speaker 1: but just don't doesn't seem like they have to deal
Speaker 1: with this where like literally every year in the NFL
Speaker 1: there is a situation like this where a fan base
Speaker 1: or a player is fighting the league about something arbitrary.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's Zeke right now, it's it was Tom Brady, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's just every year, Like I said, I
Speaker 1: think you can go back and find an example where
Speaker 1: there's this like contentious court situation where nobody really understands
Speaker 1: what's going on, and it kind of just maybe maybe
Speaker 1: maybe that's their answer, right there, is what Derek was
Speaker 1: just saying. Maybe that you know, Adam Silver just kind
Speaker 1: of he's a commissioner of the NBA. He doesn't really
Speaker 1: try to be sheriff of like the the league as well.
Speaker 1: I mean that that might be part of it, But
Speaker 1: you know, I think I think if you're the Giants,
Speaker 1: they have a right to be frustrated with this as well.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is one of the star
Speaker 1: players of the league that's going to play in this
Speaker 1: game because they didn't get their stuff together for a
Speaker 1: few days. They missed it by a few days, so
Speaker 1: thirteen months that they waited on this. Then I think
Speaker 1: they tried to just kind of throw it in there
Speaker 1: and say okay, and then that maybe the Cowboys would
Speaker 1: back down, or the ze Zeke would back down, and
Speaker 1: maybe they would try to appeel it and get it
Speaker 1: reduced whatever. But he took it to a higher court,
Speaker 1: and it's going to take it to even higher one.
Speaker 1: And now, I mean because of all this that the
Speaker 1: Giants are the ones that, you know, they have to
Speaker 1: face this this player. And I don't if he's gonna
Speaker 1: I don't know how great he's gonna be or good
Speaker 1: he's gonna be. But it's just kind of a weird
Speaker 1: situation that came down to a couple of days. Well,
Speaker 1: they had so much time to do this. Dam they
Speaker 1: want to play him anyway. That's what land That's what
Speaker 1: Landon Collins said yesterday. He's wrong. I mean, he's lying.
Speaker 1: He doesn't want to play You don't want to play
Speaker 1: Zeke over over, you know, Darren McFadden and Alfred Morris.
Speaker 1: I bet I think Ben McAdoo probably feels that way.
Speaker 1: But I bet Landon Collins wants to play him like
Speaker 1: when you're like that, when you're that dude. Damon Harrison
Speaker 1: wants to stuff Zeke like he doesn't want to stuff Darren.
Speaker 1: To be honestly, I think they probably look at it, well,
Speaker 1: we've stopped him before, we think we can stop him again. Okay,
Speaker 1: you're Orlando Skendrick, you want thirteen or not? Probably not.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know that the Cowboys have a
Speaker 1: defensive back on par with Landon Collins or gen Norris
Speaker 1: Jenkins for that matter, So well, yeah, that's but no,
Speaker 1: I mean I'm joking around. I know. It's just like
Speaker 1: when you're a competitor at that level, you probably they
Speaker 1: probably do want thirteen. Scandrick would never tell you that
Speaker 1: he doesn't want thirteen, And to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: I think I kind of would believe him that he's
Speaker 1: okay with the idea of going out and covering Beckham
Speaker 1: and even if he gets beats some plays, he feels like,
Speaker 1: I'll hold own I'll win my fair share as well.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's I don't think NFL players buying
Speaker 1: large are afraid of the competence. That's the scary part though,
Speaker 1: holding your own and maybe give up a player. Two.
Speaker 1: That was Brandon Car's game against Beckham last year. He
Speaker 1: had a really nice game against them, but they he
Speaker 1: gave up a slant over the middle. I think Church
Speaker 1: or Wilcox or one of the two didn't didn't do
Speaker 1: their job touchdown and that was the difference in the game.
Speaker 1: So you know, these games are so close that you
Speaker 1: know you can't just it's just one or two players
Speaker 1: here and there could change everything. Let's jump right in.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Cowboys versus Giants. We're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: this Giants offense, and I guess let's start with the quarterback.
Speaker 1: Last year when the Cowboys played at the Giants, Eli
Speaker 1: had pretty much almost exactly statistically the same day. In
Speaker 1: both those two games. He was nineteen for twenty eight
Speaker 1: hundred and seven yards, three touchdowns, an interception in the
Speaker 1: first game, and then seventeen to twenty eight one hundred
Speaker 1: ninety three yards, a touchdown, an interception in the second game.
Speaker 1: Nothing that was spectacular from a statistical standpoint, but enough
Speaker 1: to win. He got gave his team in the end
Speaker 1: zone three times in the first game, got him in
Speaker 1: the end zone one time in the second game. Um,
Speaker 1: what was there anything that stood out in that game
Speaker 1: that you can remember back that you thought that he
Speaker 1: did particularly well or didn't do particularly well against the Cowboys. Well,
Speaker 1: he's he gets the ball out quickly. And so, I mean,
Speaker 1: I know later on we're gonna talk about their offensive line,
Speaker 1: and I think that's one of the ways that they
Speaker 1: get past having a line that's not so good is
Speaker 1: because he doesn't he doesn't sit there and hold the
Speaker 1: ball for very long. And you have to have quick,
Speaker 1: speedy receivers or strong receivers to do that. And so
Speaker 1: that they've kind of surrounded himself with with some really
Speaker 1: good playmakers, both young and old. I guess if you'd
Speaker 1: say Brandon Marshall's old but um my NFL standard, but yeah,
Speaker 1: but very productive and so and so I think that
Speaker 1: he's got good weapons around him. He gets the ball
Speaker 1: out quick. Um, he's never been the most mobile, but
Speaker 1: sure does play every game. I Mean, you can say
Speaker 1: what you want about a dumb faces and the you know,
Speaker 1: whatever they call it, but he's tough. You know, he's
Speaker 1: stuff as nails because he doesn't ever miss games. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he's not like he's avoiding a lot of big hits.
Speaker 1: You mentioned that offensive line. That offensive line gave up
Speaker 1: only twenty two sacks last year as suspect as they are,
Speaker 1: that's third best in the league. So yes, that's him exactly.
Speaker 1: And then my point is as a unit, they know
Speaker 1: how to get the ball out. They don't take a
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of sacks because of their their
Speaker 1: play for however good or bad. We think it is
Speaker 1: that that means something, and that that means something, especially
Speaker 1: now that he has some better weapons than he had
Speaker 1: last year, indus receivers and tight ends. Yeah, and the
Speaker 1: thing that I'm maybe not scarce, but the thing that
Speaker 1: I'm looking at is that he they have surrounded him
Speaker 1: with guys that he can get the ball too quickly.
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham doesn't Brandon Marshall. Maybe he's more of a traditional,
Speaker 1: like you know, deep threat. I don't think of him
Speaker 1: as like a quick twitch, speedy guy. He's like a
Speaker 1: long strider. But Beckham, Shepherd and then this Ingram kid.
Speaker 1: I'm terrified of what Evan Ingram might do for their offense.
Speaker 1: And the fact that you're not looking at guys that
Speaker 1: need a long time to get down the field and
Speaker 1: get open. And I think that's what it's going to
Speaker 1: look like. Talk to me about Evan Ingram. You did
Speaker 1: the Draft show last year. Talk to me about he's
Speaker 1: a rookie this year. What things coming out of college
Speaker 1: were things that he supposedly did well? What things maybe
Speaker 1: did he not do so well? Well. It's a misnomer
Speaker 1: to really label him a tight end because he's just
Speaker 1: a big bodied receiver. That's what he is. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's he's that. He's not even as bulky as like
Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham though, but he's that Jimmy They you know,
Speaker 1: the red zone, Jimmy Graham, go up and get the ball,
Speaker 1: fast tight end who's probably not going to help you
Speaker 1: a lot as a blocker. Having said that, and you know,
Speaker 1: people kind of derided the Giants when they picked him
Speaker 1: because they're like, you had a chance to to upgrade
Speaker 1: your offensive line and you took a you know, a
Speaker 1: non blocking tight end instead. You know, you need you
Speaker 1: need to block for Eli so he can get the
Speaker 1: ball to all these receivers. They I think they could
Speaker 1: have had Ryan ramcheck the Wisconsin tackle and they decided
Speaker 1: not to go that way. So, but having said that,
Speaker 1: it's been it's been impressive that he's he's playing three downs,
Speaker 1: he's doing everything for them like they're not. He's not
Speaker 1: doing subpackage stuff, he doesn't have like a limited role.
Speaker 1: He's just their number one tight end, which I did
Speaker 1: not expect, knowing what I know about his skill set,
Speaker 1: I didn't think he'd be ready for that right off
Speaker 1: the bat. And no, he's not going to be Jason Witten.
Speaker 1: But if he can do just enough to help in
Speaker 1: the blocking game and stuff, if he's on the field,
Speaker 1: you know ninety percent of their snaps, I have a
Speaker 1: feeling he's going to be trouble to deal with. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I hear Brian say this all the time about tight
Speaker 1: ends blocking. It's more about the willingness of the blocker
Speaker 1: than sometimes is your ability to block. If you know
Speaker 1: how to get in the way, you know how to
Speaker 1: turn your body a certain way, you're willing to do
Speaker 1: it exactly, then you can be you can be an
Speaker 1: effective blocker, not be great, but you can be an
Speaker 1: effective blocker. And so from that standpoint, maybe that's how
Speaker 1: they look at it this first year is can they
Speaker 1: get him to be an effective blocker? Just you know,
Speaker 1: get in the way, make sure he opens it, you
Speaker 1: know it. Just move your body to a certain way
Speaker 1: and just be in the way. Keep a guy from
Speaker 1: getting between you and and the ball carrier. Truth be told.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure he'd be upset with me saying this,
Speaker 1: but I bet Jason Witten that's pretty much the way
Speaker 1: his career started as a blocker. Now has he developed
Speaker 1: technique along the way, sure, but I think for the
Speaker 1: most part he's been a willing blocker. He knows how
Speaker 1: to use leverage getting the way, and then you know,
Speaker 1: he's kind of picked up some some you know, tricks
Speaker 1: of the trade along the way. But I think that
Speaker 1: that's kind of how it started with him. You know,
Speaker 1: he's never been having this overpowering strength, but he can
Speaker 1: block defensive ends and he'll wham the nose. That the
Speaker 1: story if they it's if it needs to be, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to watch because, like I said, I mean,
Speaker 1: they had a chance they could have gotten a tackle
Speaker 1: that they could plug right in there, and I know
Speaker 1: everybody knows that that's a weakness for the Giants, and
Speaker 1: they decided not to do it. And tight end is
Speaker 1: such a hard position to adapt to. I mean, you
Speaker 1: think about first round tight ends in the last five years,
Speaker 1: most of them don't make a huge impact in year one.
Speaker 1: Eric Ebron is a guy that's burned me in fantasy
Speaker 1: more times than I can count. But if he plays
Speaker 1: as well as the reviews indicate out of training camp,
Speaker 1: and that's not a guarantee, I know that, but if
Speaker 1: I mean, the reviews have been great, and if he
Speaker 1: is ready to go at that level right away, that
Speaker 1: will be I mean, that sounds like it would be
Speaker 1: really good for them. I have high expectations for what
Speaker 1: he might be. And if you see, sorry, if you
Speaker 1: see some of the preseason games and some of the
Speaker 1: plays he's made with ELI, you can tell they've had
Speaker 1: a pretty good connection. He was somewhat of a constant
Speaker 1: target for him, So the connection between them two has
Speaker 1: been pretty good as compared to Marshall, which he I
Speaker 1: believe he missed two preseason games to due to an injury. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So the only good side of that, aside from him
Speaker 1: being a great player as well, is that he hasn't
Speaker 1: had as much time in real game time with him
Speaker 1: on the field with ELI, So let's hope that works
Speaker 1: in a positive way for that. I'll say this about
Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall, and I believe I'm right on this one.
Speaker 1: He's the only player in the history of the NFL
Speaker 1: to make the Pro Bowl with four different teams. Thousand
Speaker 1: yards seasons with four different teams. Yeah, he's one of
Speaker 1: my thousand too. He has had a thousand yards with
Speaker 1: four different clubs. Yeah, And so I know, I know,
Speaker 1: you know, there's been some Pro bowlers for three different teams,
Speaker 1: but not four. And you know, I don't know if
Speaker 1: he has a chance for five. We'll see. But to
Speaker 1: your point, or to offset that point, I think he's
Speaker 1: picked it up with different quarterbacks you know, here and there,
Speaker 1: and most of them haven't been great. Most of them
Speaker 1: are not at the at the level love Eli Manning.
Speaker 1: So I think he'll be He'll be fine. Plus he's
Speaker 1: not he's not the guy that scares you the most
Speaker 1: on that team. Yeah, And we're going to take a
Speaker 1: break right now. When we come back from break, I
Speaker 1: do want to talk about these wide receivers, particularly Odell Beckham.
Speaker 1: We'll talk a little bit more about Brandon Marshall and
Speaker 1: also Sterling Shepard. We'll do it when we come right
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Speaker 1: the Breaklock from the s WBC Morgan Studios. We're talking
Speaker 1: Cowboys versus Giants today we're focusing in on the Giants offense.
Speaker 1: We've talked about Eli Manning, we talked about a new
Speaker 1: time and Evan Inglam. We talked about the offensive line
Speaker 1: a bit. Now I'll talk about the skill position, the
Speaker 1: wide receivers. Um. Let's start first with Odell Beckham. He
Speaker 1: has he experienced and I think it was an ankle injury. Yeah,
Speaker 1: back during training camp, and by all accounts, they felt
Speaker 1: pretty happy with the prognosis because at first it was
Speaker 1: like is he gonna be Is this like gonna be
Speaker 1: a really serious and sounds very similar to the Tyrone
Speaker 1: Crawford sit right. Yeah, a look bad and everybody thought
Speaker 1: it was pretty bad and then come to find out
Speaker 1: not as bad. Still has a possibility obviously of playing
Speaker 1: this week, although I did read earlier that he is,
Speaker 1: he has not practiced to this point. He wrote the
Speaker 1: stationary Bike all day on Monday during their practice. So
Speaker 1: let's talk a little bit about Odell Beckham and what
Speaker 1: he's presented for this team. Do you um when when
Speaker 1: he's at full strength, obviously, really really great player, but
Speaker 1: there have been some games when he's been a little limited.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys have limited him too. Not great plays, but
Speaker 1: he's made a big play, like a play that has
Speaker 1: been a different maker in the game. I mean the
Speaker 1: big one that you're probably referring to is last year
Speaker 1: in New York. I mean, he was the difference in
Speaker 1: that game, and I don't I think it was one
Speaker 1: of his only catches of that guy. But other than that,
Speaker 1: they've done a decent job of limiting him. I mean
Speaker 1: the twenty fifteen opener after JJ Wilcox cleaned his clock,
Speaker 1: I think he finished that game with like one catch
Speaker 1: for I don't think he was right. I don't think
Speaker 1: he was either, and his stat sheet indicates that he
Speaker 1: had like fewer than fifteen receiving yards. I don't know
Speaker 1: off the top of my head what he had in
Speaker 1: the season opener last year, but he certainly wasn't just
Speaker 1: lighting him up by any stretch of the imagination. And
Speaker 1: that's that was kind of the hallmark of this Dallas
Speaker 1: defense last year's. They gave you a little bit, but
Speaker 1: they didn't give you the backbreaking play. That slant that
Speaker 1: he took it for a touchdown being a rare exception.
Speaker 1: I mean, it didn't happen very often where where an
Speaker 1: opponent had a long touchdown like that from you know,
Speaker 1: thirty forty fifty yards out, and that was a rare
Speaker 1: exception that ultimately helped contribute to them losing that. And
Speaker 1: I think that you know, they have that ben, but
Speaker 1: don't break defense and to not give up plays like that.
Speaker 1: But he pretty much just split the safeties on that
Speaker 1: because of his athletic ability. I mean that that's that's
Speaker 1: why you know, he is just so good. I think
Speaker 1: he's you know, you said, he's really really good. I
Speaker 1: think when he's healthy, I think he's probably one of
Speaker 1: the top three or four players in the league. I
Speaker 1: really I believe that. I think he's you know, I
Speaker 1: know that he wanted to get paid as the best
Speaker 1: player in the NFL, and and I think you could
Speaker 1: make an argument for him he's probably the most exciting
Speaker 1: player um in the league. And he's he's just you know, really,
Speaker 1: he's been way better than than anyone I think could
Speaker 1: have thought. I mean, what was he drafted? Fourteenth? Twelve, thirteenth?
Speaker 1: I think I was around there. I mean, I knew
Speaker 1: it was there. He's number thirteen. I was about to
Speaker 1: say that that would be very convenient. It was like
Speaker 1: the thirteen. Yeah, he's right around there though, Like it
Speaker 1: was somewhere between ten and fifteen. Yeah, and uh, I
Speaker 1: know the Cowboys were interested, but you know, but they
Speaker 1: didn't what year was that. It was the Zach Martin
Speaker 1: You're ok. Yeah, so they were kind of interested. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know that they wanted some defensive players, but if
Speaker 1: he was, if he was still available, they would have
Speaker 1: definitely looked into I wouldn't be surprised if they would
Speaker 1: have drafted him if he'd been there, because they had
Speaker 1: a very high grade on him. And then Eric Ebron.
Speaker 1: People mentioned the Giants could or the Lions could have
Speaker 1: had Aaron Donald or or Odell Beckham, and I think
Speaker 1: they went with Eric Ebron instead, which he that hurts
Speaker 1: a little bit now, so but yeah, I mean absolutely,
Speaker 1: and honestly, his presence and his his health I think
Speaker 1: mean everything, because I mean, this secondary's not as bad
Speaker 1: as I think a lot of people give it credit for.
Speaker 1: But you can, I mean think about those options. And again,
Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall's dealing with the shoulder too, but you have
Speaker 1: those two Sterling Shepherd is a fantastic slot receiver, and
Speaker 1: then we already gave a hell of an intro to Ingram,
Speaker 1: who who knows if he'll even live up to those expectations.
Speaker 1: But that's just a lot of fleticism for this secondary
Speaker 1: to deal with, to the point where, you know, what
Speaker 1: do you do with an athletic tight end like that?
Speaker 1: Do you? I mean, it's Cheeta a woozier gonna try
Speaker 1: to play him the way Byron Jones did? Do you
Speaker 1: bring Byron Jones out of his safety spot to handle that? Um?
Speaker 1: Are you are you doubling Beckham? I would hope you
Speaker 1: double Beckham, But you know, Rod Marinelli has never really
Speaker 1: been the type to just go out of his way
Speaker 1: to focus on a guy like that. He also doesn't
Speaker 1: typically travel cornerbacks. So if all of these guys are available,
Speaker 1: all four of the ones I just mentioned are out
Speaker 1: there and at full capacity, you're stretching any secondary pretty thin.
Speaker 1: Let me flip this that thought a little bit. Who
Speaker 1: you get Who would you guys say is the best
Speaker 1: cornerbacks of Cowboys has right now? Scandrew Skandrick right in
Speaker 1: this scenario, Scandrick when they're in three wide, when they're
Speaker 1: in nickel defense, typically he's in the slot. In this instance,
Speaker 1: you're playing a team where the least experienced guy on
Speaker 1: that wide receiver corps will probably be the guy that's
Speaker 1: in the slot. In Sterling Shepherd, do you think this
Speaker 1: is a situation where the Cowboys should or just you personally,
Speaker 1: do you think this would be a better idea if
Speaker 1: the Cowboys were to keep Scandrick on the outside and
Speaker 1: maybe slide someone else in the slot. I don't know
Speaker 1: who that would be, whether that's Anthony Brown do it,
Speaker 1: But do you think that's a better option because of
Speaker 1: the fact that Scandrick is your better better cornerback and
Speaker 1: you'd rather And if you're gonna do that, does that
Speaker 1: mean now that you travel him with Beckham Man that
Speaker 1: those are good questions. I think that you do need
Speaker 1: to see. I mean, I do believe that that Beckham
Speaker 1: is going to play Now, is he a hundred percent?
Speaker 1: You know, you'll you'll find out. I mean he can.
Speaker 1: Him being out there is still going to be effective.
Speaker 1: So unless he absolutely just can't walk or run and
Speaker 1: it's going to hurt himself long term, you know, I
Speaker 1: still think that they play him, but that could affect
Speaker 1: what you do there. You know, do you travel him?
Speaker 1: I mean him at eighty five percent, he's not one
Speaker 1: of the most dynamic players in the league anymore at
Speaker 1: that point, so maybe maybe you can kind of play
Speaker 1: it straight up a little bit. I don't really see
Speaker 1: this as a situation to follow because they've got three
Speaker 1: great receivers. I think you need to play your defense
Speaker 1: the way you want to play it, you guys, quickly,
Speaker 1: said Scandrick. But I don't think it's he's that much
Speaker 1: better than the other guys, and so I would just
Speaker 1: play my defense. I think because it's a pick your poison.
Speaker 1: It's not like, well, you know, this guy's not any good.
Speaker 1: This Shepherd could beat them all day, and Brandon Marshall
Speaker 1: could as well. Ingram, I mean, just look at the
Speaker 1: preseason and look at last year. The tight ends can
Speaker 1: kill this team sometimes. So that's something that Barron Jones really,
Speaker 1: I think Jones and Heath they need to step up
Speaker 1: their game this year from that standpoint, the tight end
Speaker 1: covering the tight end. You know, we've seen too many
Speaker 1: games where you know, some guy you don't even really
Speaker 1: even know who he is, and he's got six or
Speaker 1: seven catches. Are you all concerned about when you look
Speaker 1: at this cornerback group? Really, Nolan Carroll is obviously the
Speaker 1: biggest guy they got in that group, but they really
Speaker 1: don't have size at the cornerback position. And in this
Speaker 1: game particularly, you're facing a beastly wide receiver in Brandon Marshall.
Speaker 1: Are you all concerned about how that matchup works? Especially
Speaker 1: if you say Nick, You're not gonna travel anybody. So's
Speaker 1: not gonna say Nolan Carroll, you're gonna be with him.
Speaker 1: Now he's lined up on Anthony Brown, Now he's lined
Speaker 1: up on Scandrick. How do you feel about these corners
Speaker 1: in their size and the size they give up against
Speaker 1: big wide receivers. Fun little wrinkle here, which it's I mean,
Speaker 1: they haven't practiced yet this week. I have no idea
Speaker 1: what he's ready for. But ben a been wickery. He's
Speaker 1: not huge, but he's five eleven, two hundred. He's in
Speaker 1: this group. That's a big Yes, he's bigger than what
Speaker 1: they've had during the preseason. So if he can get
Speaker 1: up to speed, that's a bigger physical guy that can
Speaker 1: help you with this. I don't know if you throw
Speaker 1: him out there against Marshall or what you do with him,
Speaker 1: but it gives you a little bit of a boost
Speaker 1: in the size category, which assuming he's healthy. Again, nobody's practiced.
Speaker 1: But Cheeto is on the bigger side too. I don't
Speaker 1: think he's quite six foot, but he's right in that,
Speaker 1: you know, five eleven six foot to you know, close
Speaker 1: to two hundred pounds. So you should would have a
Speaker 1: little bit more size for this game than what you
Speaker 1: have had. But I'm I'm with Nick. I like Orlando
Speaker 1: Scandrick in the slot. I leave him in there if
Speaker 1: he can nullify or do his best to nullify Sterling
Speaker 1: Shepherd and let everybody else just kind of piece it
Speaker 1: together outside. I think that's I'm fine with that, because
Speaker 1: there is there is that advantage of like you just
Speaker 1: you said a little bit earlier, Sterling Shepherd, he's one
Speaker 1: of those targets that helps Eli get the ball out quick.
Speaker 1: You nullify that, maybe it does create an extra second,
Speaker 1: an extra second and a half to where maybe your
Speaker 1: defensive front can possibly get home. Well, be Beckham was
Speaker 1: going to go all over the place as well, So
Speaker 1: I means sometimes he'll be in the slot some and
Speaker 1: it'll just be a cat and mouse game of you know,
Speaker 1: at times they'll play Scandrick here, they'll move Brown out,
Speaker 1: they'll move guys around, and you know, I just think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a good matchup. I mean, those three
Speaker 1: receivers are definitely better than the Cowboys three or four corners.
Speaker 1: But cowboys that are gonna beat them? Oh oh hey,
Speaker 1: not even not even Friday. Okay. But I mean, let's
Speaker 1: know that the offensive line is not great. I mean
Speaker 1: they're struggling with that. So aside from that, I'm just
Speaker 1: picturing this whole thing how it plays out. Yeah, Eli
Speaker 1: gets rid of the ball quickly. He still needs some
Speaker 1: improvement on his completion game. But aside from that, you
Speaker 1: talk about he took about back him. I don't think
Speaker 1: he'll be at his fullest. Obviously, he's coming off from
Speaker 1: an injury. And I don't even I see that because
Speaker 1: you drafted him in fantasy last year and he wasn't
Speaker 1: that great for you? Did I have him last year?
Speaker 1: I thought so, didn't you? No? No, I think I
Speaker 1: think my team wouldn't have been last. Oh you were last.
Speaker 1: I was one of the last ones. Yeah, but the
Speaker 1: last one. Why we're not playing this year? Yeah, I'm out?
Speaker 1: Um No, but I just don't see him playing at
Speaker 1: his fullest. Um. Yeah, what is it? A six time
Speaker 1: pro bowler or something like that. Probably time pro bowler.
Speaker 1: I mean the guy has eight eight seasons of his
Speaker 1: eleven seasons where he's had one thousand plus yards. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is a this is a really good wide resunderrated players,
Speaker 1: I agree with recent history of the league. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: funny because when you start talking about the best receivers
Speaker 1: in the league, his name is rarely among those top
Speaker 1: three or four. But if you look at his numbers
Speaker 1: and what he's consistently done, and especially if you look
Speaker 1: at the quarterbacks, he's done it with his best hard
Speaker 1: to not say he's he's up there. Best quarterback EVERT
Speaker 1: was Jay Cutler. Yeah, and good luck with that. And
Speaker 1: I think that there are players on this team and
Speaker 1: around the league for sure, but on this team that
Speaker 1: can look at Brandon Marshall as an example of a
Speaker 1: guy that was very knuckleheadish, say the least. I mean
Speaker 1: he he had some issues, like yeah, polar and I
Speaker 1: mean he had some I think they had some domestic issues. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And and I think, you know, he's turned his his
Speaker 1: career around. I mean I remember in two thousand and
Speaker 1: eight when the Cowboys practiced that with them, Um and
Speaker 1: pac Man Jones was like talking, you know, he was
Speaker 1: he was sitting there talking smack to Brandon Marshall, you
Speaker 1: know about how you know he felt like to was
Speaker 1: better than him or something like that, or he's no,
Speaker 1: he's no t O. And then Brandon Marshall came back
Speaker 1: and said, well, he's no Champ Bailey. I mean, I
Speaker 1: can't believe it's been nine years since that, but I
Speaker 1: was remember thinking like, who's who's Brandon Marshall, Like, who's
Speaker 1: this guy? Is he any good? You know, he's pretty
Speaker 1: good he's been the best of all. Well, I don't
Speaker 1: know if he's been better than t O. No, he's
Speaker 1: not better than THO, but he's I mean, he's he's
Speaker 1: got himself a nice little resume. I'll say this, if
Speaker 1: if he would have played with the quarterbacks that To
Speaker 1: was played to, To played with, yeah, then he probably
Speaker 1: would be as good, if not better than t O.
Speaker 1: Wait To played with, played with Romo, he played with Garcia, Stephen,
Speaker 1: Steve Young, Stephen like he played with Donovan mcnabba, Donovan McNabb.
Speaker 1: All of those are better than the best one that
Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall play with. And Jay Cutler. Yeah, I agree,
Speaker 1: no doubt about all right, Yeah, no doubt about you say,
Speaker 1: Donovan McNabb. Yeah, Donovan McNabb is better than Jay Cutler,
Speaker 1: Yes he is. You don't even think about you not
Speaker 1: think Donovan McNabb is good. Yeah, yeah, he's better than
Speaker 1: Jay Cuble. We argued about Donovan McNabb. We have if
Speaker 1: anybody had been listening back in the day. We argued
Speaker 1: every time the Cowboys played the Eagles about how I
Speaker 1: felt about McNabb versus how he felt about McNab. So,
Speaker 1: oh good, I don't really like Cutler either, So either
Speaker 1: I don't care, I don't care about McNabb either, I
Speaker 1: don't care. I don't care, all right, m One other
Speaker 1: thing I wanted to to ask you guys about with
Speaker 1: regards as the secondary um, wish you feel more comfortable
Speaker 1: with taking Byron Jones and sliding him down and let
Speaker 1: him kind of take on tight end responsibilities or would
Speaker 1: you rather have him back on the deep end rather
Speaker 1: than Heath who do you feel like is more? Would
Speaker 1: you feel more comfortable with being as your your center
Speaker 1: fielder because they do run a lot of single safety
Speaker 1: high This goes I mean it goes back to not
Speaker 1: to sound like Brian brought us, but it's terrible how
Speaker 1: much time those rookies missed because ideally this sounds like
Speaker 1: something Cheeto could do if he'd been practicing for the
Speaker 1: last three weeks. I mean, maybe he can do it,
Speaker 1: but we don't know that. And how much time when
Speaker 1: he was practicing, how much time he's spend a safety? None,
Speaker 1: so I was, but I'm thinking more of just like
Speaker 1: an in the box kind of like traveling around like
Speaker 1: you know, Byron wasn't really a safety when he was
Speaker 1: doing that as a rookie. You know, he was just
Speaker 1: more of like a big nickel. That's the way I
Speaker 1: thought of him. But I haven't seen Cheeto in three weeks,
Speaker 1: and I don't know if I liked the idea of
Speaker 1: taking Byron, you know, down out of the safety spot,
Speaker 1: because I really like his athleticism when it comes time
Speaker 1: to clean up messes, which I'm sure there will be
Speaker 1: some in this game, so I trust that he could
Speaker 1: do that job better than anybody else. But I don't
Speaker 1: that sounds we don't like what you have to give
Speaker 1: up on the bounds, like it leaves you awfully vulnerable
Speaker 1: on the back end. If that's what you want to do,
Speaker 1: that's what That's where I would rather see him. Is
Speaker 1: that the center field or type, even though you know,
Speaker 1: I think we've seen more plays from Jeff Heath in
Speaker 1: that role than we have up closer to the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage a covering. So you know, you wish you
Speaker 1: could have Byron Jones do both, but I think it
Speaker 1: got one of them. Yeah, I would probably put Heath
Speaker 1: up closer to the line of scrimmage, and that's where
Speaker 1: they might rotate, That's where Frasier might come into play. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I would, And that's a great segue actually,
Speaker 1: because one thing I think is worth mentioning is okay,
Speaker 1: Giants o line. I know they're not great. Eli gets
Speaker 1: rid of the ball quick. We know that too. What
Speaker 1: about the run game, It's not anything on inspiring on there.
Speaker 1: Paul Perkins, I think is going to be their starter
Speaker 1: at this point. He drafted Wayne Gallman. They've got Shane Vereen,
Speaker 1: who's more of a you know, he's that Lance Dunbar
Speaker 1: type guy Roles kind of guy. You um. I think
Speaker 1: they averaged two point eight yards per carry in their
Speaker 1: last preseason outing against I think it was the Browns.
Speaker 1: So I do think Paul Perkins is better than jin though.
Speaker 1: I think they'll have a better running game this year
Speaker 1: if the offensive line can block anything well. And I
Speaker 1: guess that's it's not a knock on Paul Perkins because
Speaker 1: the Cowboys liked him in the draft too, like he's
Speaker 1: a solid back. And I think Gallman's pretty good too,
Speaker 1: But I don't just I don't know how much fear
Speaker 1: that offensive line puts in your heart that they're gonna
Speaker 1: just block you up and run wild on you. So
Speaker 1: if there's a game where you can get away with
Speaker 1: playing a lot of nickel and dime and against these
Speaker 1: receivers and tight up just more dbs, get them all.
Speaker 1: I want eight on the field and just figure it out.
Speaker 1: And fortunately, maybe you can get away with that in
Speaker 1: this game, because again, this running game doesn't strike a
Speaker 1: lot of fear in my heart. You've got Sean Lee
Speaker 1: to help clean up anything that gets past the line.
Speaker 1: So that is something I think works in the Cowboys
Speaker 1: favor is that the giants ineptitude in the run game
Speaker 1: maybe frees you up to play a more pass heavy defense.
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Speaker 1: That made me wish that I still kept up with
Speaker 1: my French. I think I think I was just gonna say,
Speaker 1: let's let y'all just go both. Y'all could have talked
Speaker 1: to him. You're fluent, right a French. Yeah, It's been
Speaker 1: probably like ten years now since I've constantly spoken, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sure you can still piece it together, piece it together.
Speaker 1: The thing about I know this from experience, when you
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Speaker 1: all bets are off like they're just they're coming, they're
Speaker 1: gonna go. They're just like, oh, okay, well and then
Speaker 1: it's just you're lost. The floodgates are open. And so anyway,
Speaker 1: but one thing he did point out that thought was
Speaker 1: kind of interesting. He was talking about Eli Manning. He
Speaker 1: was like, no more Cowboys Dynasty, That's what he was
Speaker 1: talking about. Yes, that was one of the things that
Speaker 1: wash that stood out to me at Cowboys Dynasty. But
Speaker 1: when he mentioned about Eli Manning, he said, you put
Speaker 1: pressure on him, he'll be throwing the ball all over
Speaker 1: the place, and although he gets rid of the ball quickly.
Speaker 1: That is one thing that that you could say about
Speaker 1: elis when he gets pressure. And I don't know, you
Speaker 1: can't say that about a whole bunch of quarterbacks in
Speaker 1: the league. But when you can get pressure on him,
Speaker 1: then even though he might get it out quickly, it's
Speaker 1: probably gonna be a bit more erratic. And that's when
Speaker 1: you have opportunities, right. I said this, yeah, and I
Speaker 1: said this yesterday. Actually, somebody emailed the mail bag this
Speaker 1: morning and said, basically the gist of the email was,
Speaker 1: I don't remember y'all writing about the defensive line giving
Speaker 1: the offensive line this much trouble last year or so
Speaker 1: is the offensive line taking a step back? Or is
Speaker 1: the defensive line just better? I think you could probably.
Speaker 1: I mean, ron Leary is better than whoever's going to
Speaker 1: play left guard, and Lyle Collins is still learning. So
Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say that this offensive line
Speaker 1: is not as good as last year's was, at least
Speaker 1: not right now. But I still think that the defensive
Speaker 1: line has improved, honestly from and no they're not the
Speaker 1: Broncos but or the Seahawks, but I think they're I
Speaker 1: think they're a little bit better than I thought they
Speaker 1: would be. And I wonder, especially if this offensive line.
Speaker 1: This Giant's offensive line is as leaky as people give
Speaker 1: it credit for. I wonder how they'll do, Like I
Speaker 1: kind of feel like maybe they'll get some pressure on
Speaker 1: this guy. You know, you don't forget that at this
Speaker 1: point last year, Leary I don't think was the starter, right,
Speaker 1: that is true. And then Doug Free. So I think
Speaker 1: the line did get a little bit better because Doug
Speaker 1: Free was injured kind of the start the year or two.
Speaker 1: So overall, I think the five guys on the line
Speaker 1: got better as the year went on. Um, But we'll
Speaker 1: see about what you're saying. I mean, I think that
Speaker 1: they they'll be able to dial it up on the
Speaker 1: defensive end and get some pressure. And you're right, I
Speaker 1: mean Eli will throw some some bad passes. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's why he makes those faces, because he will make
Speaker 1: some bad decisions like a lot of quarterbacks do when
Speaker 1: when they get pressure. So that's actually when you asked, like,
Speaker 1: what stood out about the two main My two main
Speaker 1: memories from last year, well, the Beckham, the Beckham touchdown
Speaker 1: in the second game, the Terrence sideline debacle, which really
Speaker 1: wasn't a debacle because it would have been like a
Speaker 1: sixty yard field goal anyway, and then Eli threw like
Speaker 1: one of the worst picks I've ever seen the Brandon
Speaker 1: Car Brandon Carr, I mean, on the first possession of
Speaker 1: the third quarter. It was just it was like he
Speaker 1: felt He's like, I know, you haven't had a pick
Speaker 1: in two years. I'm like, literally, it wasn't a pretty
Speaker 1: exciting moment. I saw, like the play happened live, dropped
Speaker 1: that one. The play happened live, and I was like,
Speaker 1: Brandon Car got a pick, Oh my god, blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: And then I watched the replay and like literally all
Speaker 1: Car had to do was just kind of sink down
Speaker 1: to his knees and catch it because the I think
Speaker 1: it was Beckham or the receiver, whoever it was, was
Speaker 1: just standing there, like, and what do you do if
Speaker 1: you don't remember it? Just just know this that Larry
Speaker 1: Brown had two more difficult interceptions in the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: thirty against the Steelers than than what he had. It
Speaker 1: was something else, that's for sure. But you know, I
Speaker 1: kind of agree with you that I do think the
Speaker 1: defensive line is better. I also think this is also
Speaker 1: a function of every time a defensive lineman were to
Speaker 1: beat an offensive lineman during training camps and became news. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's because the offensive line is so good that if
Speaker 1: they got beat then it was like, oh wow, wow,
Speaker 1: they beat beat Martin on that play. You know, that
Speaker 1: was a huge deal if somebody beat Martin on a
Speaker 1: play when you know, vast majority of time Martin was
Speaker 1: you know, he's steady, you weren't gonna beat him. So
Speaker 1: I think it's a little bit of both. But I
Speaker 1: do agree there are they are better. I think they're better.
Speaker 1: They don't have the guy that you have to game
Speaker 1: plan around, right, which is a problem, But of any
Speaker 1: I mean DeMarcus Mayowa, Paia Malik and when he gets back,
Speaker 1: when they get back to Montremore, and David Irving, I mean,
Speaker 1: and Tyrone Crawford too, I'll throw him at Like can't
Speaker 1: you can imagine all of those guys getting five or six? Right? Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I said you can imagine, I didn't
Speaker 1: say it was gonna happen, Like, like one of those
Speaker 1: guys will get five or six. I think three or
Speaker 1: four of them will probably have between four and six.
Speaker 1: I mean that's what they did last year. Honestly, I
Speaker 1: think there will be one guy that gets up to
Speaker 1: probably about six or seven, and I think it's probably
Speaker 1: gonna be Malik. Malik had five and a half last year,
Speaker 1: Tyrone had four and a half, Mayowa had six. That right,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a solid start. If you can get
Speaker 1: two other guys to come along with you and get
Speaker 1: five or six, you maybe cooking a little. So yesterday
Speaker 1: talking to sound right, Yeah, I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: going to happen, but I can imagine all of those
Speaker 1: guys getting into that range. Um talking to tyr Own
Speaker 1: Crawford yesterday, and he was just saying, how he feels
Speaker 1: pretty good. You know, he's not going to be one,
Speaker 1: but he feels pretty good. He said that he didn't
Speaker 1: think when he was on the field when he got
Speaker 1: injured that he would be at this point talking even
Speaker 1: talking about week one. But then I asked him about
Speaker 1: often playing defensive tackles since they only have three tackles,
Speaker 1: or playing some end. He was just like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: sounds good. Okay, like you're not really It was pretty funny.
Speaker 1: I was there, I watched it. He kind of ignored
Speaker 1: Nick right away. Yeah, I kind of like talked myself
Speaker 1: out of the question, you know, like, based off of
Speaker 1: his I fell embarrassed for you. Don't worry about that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's just part of be interrupt Yeah, but I kind of,
Speaker 1: as I said, like, do you um so usually we
Speaker 1: usually when you ask a question, you kind of like
Speaker 1: open open it up for them to cut you off
Speaker 1: with the answer. So I was like, yeah, they kept
Speaker 1: three tackles. You've played a little bit of both. Do
Speaker 1: you see yourself playing you know, some defensive tackle or
Speaker 1: you're gonna stick to end where you've been most of
Speaker 1: the time, or and he was like, or you're just
Speaker 1: not gonna say anything because it's weak one. Yeah, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: thank you. I don't think you even say anything. I
Speaker 1: don't think this question basically just waiting for the next question. Bro.
Speaker 1: That just okay. But I got the answer by by
Speaker 1: no answer, I got the answer. He's gonna played defensive tackle.
Speaker 1: And that's something he probably didn't want to say, probably right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he probably. I mean, I don't want to put words
Speaker 1: in his mouth, but he probably doesn't want to do it.
Speaker 1: He probably like, can I just play a position? Can
Speaker 1: you just Oh? Yeah? But I would bet he's probably
Speaker 1: he's gonna do like a lot of these guys have
Speaker 1: done over the years. With Rod Marinelli, he's gonna probably
Speaker 1: be doing both. Yeah, there would be times you look
Speaker 1: out there and he's at defensive tackle. There are times
Speaker 1: you look out there, look out there and he's at
Speaker 1: defensive end. Like there got a lot of guys that
Speaker 1: do that, and that's what they've kind of built this
Speaker 1: defense line to do, is to be flexible and have
Speaker 1: guys that can jump out the position to position. It's
Speaker 1: a shame because you know, I had a couple of
Speaker 1: coaches say that he has finally, you know, just healthy,
Speaker 1: and he was. He was looking really good like and
Speaker 1: not only was he was he playing, you know, was
Speaker 1: he really athletic, but you could tell he was taking
Speaker 1: on kind of that leadership role. Like that day he
Speaker 1: just kind of went off at practice. He just was
Speaker 1: just fighting everyone, you know, because he had seen the
Speaker 1: day before that they were getting beat. So he wasn't
Speaker 1: doing anything like winning in practice, but he was just
Speaker 1: gonna say, well, if anything, I'm just gonna fight. And
Speaker 1: I think that right there. Since once that happened, the
Speaker 1: defense kind of turned a little bit, they started winning
Speaker 1: a little bit more. So it was just some energy
Speaker 1: he's taken a little bit more of that role, and
Speaker 1: I was gonna, I mean, we can have all the
Speaker 1: conversations you want about his effectiveness and whether his paycheck
Speaker 1: is justifiable, but you can't question that he's a good
Speaker 1: soldier and the famous, the right kind of guy. I mean,
Speaker 1: he dude injuries, lay through everything, moves to whatever position
Speaker 1: they tell him to just I mean, and and he's
Speaker 1: if you're gonna identify like a leader father figure in
Speaker 1: the defensive line room, it's him. So he handles all
Speaker 1: that stuff. You can't question any of that about him.
Speaker 1: That's somebody asked me yesterday, you know, if I thought
Speaker 1: he was actually ready to play or if it was
Speaker 1: just a situation where they needed him. I was like,
Speaker 1: he hasn't been ready to play in like two years
Speaker 1: in terms of, you know, his health. But he's just
Speaker 1: a tough, tough dude. So I mean, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: he'll be out there. That's not even a question, is it.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a question. This place sounds like
Speaker 1: it's actually happening. All right. Let's take a question from Twitter. Well,
Speaker 1: here's a quick comment from dusting saying Phil from France
Speaker 1: is the man. So thanks again, Phil, further call, and
Speaker 1: Rob is asking does the extra extra sorry week off
Speaker 1: adversively affect the Cowboys versus Giants due to the canceled
Speaker 1: preseason game. I really don't think that matters at all
Speaker 1: because they they all did what they were going to do.
Speaker 1: That's I don't think a single guy that will factor
Speaker 1: heavily in this game played or would have played. I
Speaker 1: mean Xavier Woods, Cavon Frasier. Yeah, they got a practice,
Speaker 1: they practice and they didn't get hurt. So I don't
Speaker 1: think it really helps because I don't think it was
Speaker 1: an advantage that the Giants didn't have. I mean, the
Speaker 1: key players for the Giants I'm sure didn't play in
Speaker 1: their last game either, So nah, I don't think that
Speaker 1: that does anything to them. If Rob wants to ask
Speaker 1: us a question, just tell him to come downstairs. I know.
Speaker 1: Rob quit twittering from up there. Okay, I do have
Speaker 1: an accent. Okay, what big deal. Let's get over it
Speaker 1: all right. Another question from Twitter? Okay, questions about the
Speaker 1: what is it called suspended here? It is suspended, guys.
Speaker 1: Do you guys think that it will really affect the
Speaker 1: Cowboys in this in the next games? Irving Demontre more,
Speaker 1: not having not having these guys will really affect the team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just start with the Giants game. The guys are out
Speaker 1: for the Giants game. You think that's gonna have a
Speaker 1: big impact on this game? Does? Is Charles Tapper gonna play?
Speaker 1: You think you think he's gonna suit up and play.
Speaker 1: I had a conversation with somebody yesterday where we were.
Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if he's the seventh inactive.
Speaker 1: I don't know that for sure, but but they only
Speaker 1: have eight. Yeah, and I don't think he'll play. I
Speaker 1: saw his face yesterday. He didn't seem like he's gonna play.
Speaker 1: I read his language his face. This guy's not gonna
Speaker 1: play this week. Thought about walking up to him me
Speaker 1: just asking him. I thought so, But just because I
Speaker 1: saw his face, I'm like, he's like, I got this
Speaker 1: in the mood, I got this. I mean, yeah, they
Speaker 1: would be short on the defensive line if he's inactive,
Speaker 1: because they only have eight right now. Yeah, if if
Speaker 1: he does play, then then yeah, I think that you
Speaker 1: certainly would. You're gonna miss what you would have had
Speaker 1: with the Demontre Moore or Irving or both. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I think that that it's it affects it
Speaker 1: because David Irvings the type of versatile player that can
Speaker 1: that can do what you say, play inside and if
Speaker 1: the Giants have some players on their line that you
Speaker 1: think you can take advantage of, David Irvings has been
Speaker 1: the type of player that you can see that can
Speaker 1: kind of you know, he can win those mismatches. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I would would definitely like to have him out there
Speaker 1: if it wasn't if they were both healthy, I mean
Speaker 1: they're both active to play Tapper. I don't know if
Speaker 1: Tapper would be on the team, actually, I don't. I mean,
Speaker 1: when when both those guys are back, they're gonna have
Speaker 1: to make some kind of decisions. Are convince a line? Right?
Speaker 1: That's stuff to get creative like he did and some
Speaker 1: other injuries get creative. That stuff tends to take care
Speaker 1: of itself a month over him. For Irving, I don't
Speaker 1: know so much about Demontre more. I mean, maybe you
Speaker 1: get through two games without any significant injuries and then
Speaker 1: you have to make yeah, all right real quick. I've
Speaker 1: seen a lot of questions about Twitzer. Do you guys
Speaker 1: think that we'll get to see him this week? And
Speaker 1: if so, how much well he contributed to the team.
Speaker 1: See see I think I think we're going to see
Speaker 1: Ryan Switzer. Yes, I do too, Yeah, why would mean? Yeah?
Speaker 1: But you know, that's the thing about offense, That's the thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, everybody's like talking about Switzer, but the fact
Speaker 1: of the matter is there are a ton of guys
Speaker 1: ahead of him as far as guys that when you
Speaker 1: start just going down the list of guys that will
Speaker 1: get the ball on offense, I think you're probably gonna
Speaker 1: get to probably fifth before you get to his name,
Speaker 1: probably maybe more, I don't know. I mean at least fifth, right,
Speaker 1: So I don't I don't text a whole lot, a
Speaker 1: lot more than most of your guys. He's going to
Speaker 1: touch the football most guy and special special teams is yeah,
Speaker 1: that's where that's where they drafted. But I guess that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, is that's where I was going. Was.
Speaker 1: I think on offense, whatever you get is going to
Speaker 1: be gravy. I don't think there's a lot that's built
Speaker 1: for him. So he may get a few opportunities, I
Speaker 1: don't think it'll be a lot special teams where you'll
Speaker 1: have opportunity to make a mark, right, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean that's where are my expectations are to start.
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't be surprised if they find a way
Speaker 1: to this week. You can get yeah, I don't get those.
Speaker 1: A little sleep yeah, a little death sweeps and a
Speaker 1: little you know, a little swing routes they used to
Speaker 1: do with with you would lucky Lucky. Yes, what they
Speaker 1: used to do is free agent. Now, Yes, he's hurt.
Speaker 1: Though hurt free agent. I want to I would guess
Speaker 1: he was waved injured because he broke his foot. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I haven't really been paying a lot of
Speaker 1: attention to him yet. Cut him huh yeah, exactly. That's
Speaker 1: that good? All right? One more question I was used
Speaker 1: gonna say real quick, I'm really excited to see Switzer,
Speaker 1: and I know everyone is, but at least in the
Speaker 1: punt return game versus Lucky Whitehead. Oh my god, he
Speaker 1: would annoy me so much last year. Like, you take
Speaker 1: this stuff, this stuff so personally because you're watching from
Speaker 1: up there. It's like it's like when you see a fight,
Speaker 1: you know, or boxing or stuff or something like that,
Speaker 1: you want to like you're kind of imitating the thing
Speaker 1: I want to be in it. I see Lucky last year.
Speaker 1: I have never once wanted to be okay, okay or
Speaker 1: in a box. But I'm trying to say watching Lucky Whitehead,
Speaker 1: no I haven't okay, it was clearly let's stop that, Joe, Okay.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, watching Lucky Whitehead from up there or
Speaker 1: anywhere you're at, especially from up high, you just see
Speaker 1: him dancing around the field. And yeah, he was a
Speaker 1: fast player, but he never really did anything, and that
Speaker 1: was annoying. It's very frustrating. You're not wrong, I mean,
Speaker 1: run to the right, run to the left, and nothing
Speaker 1: that he's still there. I think Switzer is gonna be fine,
Speaker 1: but you do get the little bit of the backup
Speaker 1: quarterback syndrome with him because we haven't seen him yet,
Speaker 1: so everybody you know he's West Welker meets Cole Beasley
Speaker 1: meets Tyreek Hill, and you know he's not if he'd
Speaker 1: played in the preseason and fumbled some punts and everybody like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I hate this guy. What's he doing
Speaker 1: back there? So I think he'll be fine, but I
Speaker 1: do think the hype to see him probably exceeds what
Speaker 1: he's actually going to do. At least to start. That's
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