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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of Giants' Top one hundred Players,

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Speaker 1: presented by bud Light. I'm Bob Papa. We continue our

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Speaker 1: countdown to the top one hundred players in Giants' history.

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Speaker 1: Part of our Blue Ribbon panel is Judy Bautista of

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Speaker 1: NFL Media, longtime reporter covering the National Football League and

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Speaker 1: Judy five thousand players in the hopper going back to

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Speaker 1: nineteen twenty five. Then we had the votable list. Talk

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Speaker 1: about the challenges that we faced as a group trying

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Speaker 1: to narrow it down to one hundred.

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Speaker 2: I feel like every time I saw you when we

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Speaker 2: were going through this process, I would say, Wow, this

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Speaker 2: is really hard. I mean, there were some who are

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Speaker 2: obvious and you sort of know where those players have

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Speaker 2: to go. But narrowing that many great players down you

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Speaker 2: could make an argument for all of them to be

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Speaker 2: on the list, and knowing you how to get it

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Speaker 2: down to one hundred, it was a real challenge and

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Speaker 2: obviously the biggest challenge, and I think we'll probably get

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Speaker 2: to it in this segment, is comparing players across the

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Speaker 2: eras there's great players from all of the decades and

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Speaker 2: trying to position them in the hundred that was really hard.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's let's get to it. We have number sixty four,

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Speaker 1: who ironically had another player who finished in the rankings

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Speaker 1: with a uniform number that they wore. Yeah, that was

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Speaker 1: critical and trust me, pure vote got us to sixty four,

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Speaker 1: you know, being a Super Bowl champion, playing for this

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Speaker 1: great franchise, being part of the first championship team in

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Speaker 1: thirty years when the Giants won in nineteen eighty six,

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Speaker 1: to be recognized as one of the top one hundred

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Speaker 1: players of all time.

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Speaker 3: Joeanne called me from the Giants and hey, got chills.

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Speaker 3: It's like, this is the top organization you know well,

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Speaker 3: and Tamara I thought was that right away, this is

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Speaker 3: this is the place. The Giants are the reason why

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Speaker 3: the NFL is the NFL right now. So I'm part

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Speaker 3: of that organization and I feel very proud about it.

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Speaker 1: And then Brandon Jacobs, number sixty nine on our list. Brandon,

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Speaker 1: what about for you was a guy that won a

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Speaker 1: couple of Super Bowls with this franchise and to know

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Speaker 1: that you're one of the greatest guys ever put on

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Speaker 1: a uniform.

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Speaker 4: Well, first off, this organization there's nothing like it, you know,

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Speaker 4: second to none. You know, great management, got a chance

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Speaker 4: to know the families very well, both families and Mariantis family.

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Speaker 4: You know, just you know, you know, being around here

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Speaker 4: and just looking at the history of the franchise and

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Speaker 4: all the great guys and all the great players that

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Speaker 4: came through the place, all the great coaches, everybody that

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Speaker 4: had been a part of this thing. So you know,

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Speaker 4: just for me to be sitting where I'm sitting, just

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Speaker 4: to be mentioned in the top one hundred like anywhere

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Speaker 4: in it, I mean, I'm definitely honored.

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Speaker 1: Jim. Obviously, the Giant fan base had been starved. They

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Speaker 1: made the playoffs for the first time in nineteen eighty one.

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Speaker 1: They hadn't been to the playoffs since nineteen sixty three,

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Speaker 1: and then you had the eighty fourteen coming on, and

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Speaker 1: you got this sense that they were building towards it.

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Speaker 1: What was it like as that group was coming together

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Speaker 3: Eighty three was the worst year that Eve ever experienced

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Speaker 3: through college or pros. It was like everyone got hurt.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of things happened with Bill Parcells's first

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Speaker 3: year coaching as a head coach, and there's rumors that

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Speaker 3: Bill Parcells is going to lose his job. He just said, listen, hey,

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Speaker 3: we got to circle of wagons here we make the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: In nineteen eighty four, we beat the Rams, who really

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Speaker 3: gave it to us in the beginning of the season.

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Speaker 3: It was Dickerson's first year. We beat them out there.

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Speaker 3: We played the forty nine ers they winning that Super

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Speaker 3: play against them. We could have beat them that game

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Speaker 3: in nineteen eighty four, and they said that was their

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Speaker 3: best thing they ever had at the time. So I go,

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Speaker 3: if that's the case, we can do this.

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Speaker 1: Every guy that we've ever talked to said that set

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Speaker 1: the stage for eighty six. Did you feel that way?

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Speaker 3: We got our confidence in nineteen eighty four with our

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Speaker 3: they're going to win, and we knew that and the

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Speaker 3: pressure was honest.

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Speaker 1: San Francisco was almost like the division opponent, and you

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Speaker 1: demolished them at Giants Stadium. People in their space. Touchdown,

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Speaker 1: you put the hit on Montana. Take me through that hit,

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Speaker 1: Take me through that play.

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Speaker 3: It was just before to half and they were trying

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Speaker 1: What happened on that play?

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Speaker 3: Lt dropped in the coverage, So I went in and

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Speaker 5: Oh well quit or something. It goes down down.

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Speaker 4: Where to go?

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Speaker 3: When I hit him, he kind of flipped and as

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Speaker 3: right on top of his head. I knew it was

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Speaker 3: here because it was a thump. It was one of

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Speaker 3: a Turper Bowl, trapping all the giant.

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Speaker 1: Brandon, what about for you? When did you feel that

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Speaker 1: momentum building toward that seventeen Well, you.

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Speaker 4: Know I got drafted in two thousand and five, obviously,

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Speaker 4: you know I played two years here with Tiki.

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Speaker 5: Heavy dose and running the balls and keep eye out.

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Speaker 4: My first year, I just I just did the short

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Speaker 1: Jacobs runs right. It's how the park touchdown. Randon Jacobs

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Speaker 1: just powered his way in five yard touchdown run. How

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Speaker 2: The big guy that they got, they feed, they go

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Speaker 4: Well, second year of come, I get better, you know,

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Speaker 4: most difficult part for me. So when I'm now I'm

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Speaker 4: the third down back my second year.

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Speaker 1: So you get a sense that people were scared to

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Speaker 1: tackle you when you got that head of steam going

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, and when people surprised at how fast you are.

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Speaker 4: I always wanted to have speed because I'm a big bat.

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Speaker 4: Not a lot of people gonna think I'm fast. So

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Speaker 4: I ran some people, over ran by some people, use

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Speaker 4: they've seen for those next three to four years after.

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Speaker 1: That, Manning hand off right for Jacob thirty five thirty

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Speaker 1: How did he stay in bounds.

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Speaker 4: I believe in myself. I believe in my craft. You know,

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Speaker 4: I put a lot of time in the harwork and

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Speaker 3: When you play that Green Bay game, he played Remady

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Speaker 3: a Green Bay game they played in the championship.

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Speaker 1: Game, this guy right here changed the game.

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Speaker 3: He someone ready to try to tackle you, and you

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Speaker 3: thumped them. When you're a football player, you love physical

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Speaker 3: contact because you adrenaline. That makes you play much better.

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Speaker 1: And it was cold, you ran over. I don't remember

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Speaker 1: who he ran over. Let's say not the logo right

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Speaker 4: He was coming in out of control. All I had

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Speaker 4: but I don't think that would have set the same

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Speaker 4: tone as doing what I did to him.

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Speaker 1: And he was their best player. Yeah, that's the key.

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Speaker 1: He was their best player. That was Woodson. Take out

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Speaker 1: the big guy, yep. I want to ask you about

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Speaker 1: number sixty one on this list, your teammate with Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl forty six, Jason Pierre Paul. As a defensive end.

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Speaker 1: He was unbelievable. What about him as a player when

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Speaker 1: you first saw him, what were you thinking?

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Speaker 4: The guy was still roughty to write a football when

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Speaker 4: he even got here, and when he got drafted in

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Speaker 4: the first round as a raw football player. Dont want

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Speaker 4: to know what he was going to really turn into.

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Speaker 4: But I think the Giants saw freakish athletic ability in

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Speaker 4: Jason Pierre Paul, so we're like, you know what, let's

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Speaker 4: take a chance on this guy. So they brought this

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Speaker 4: the most athletic, if not the most athletic football player

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Speaker 2: Our scene Incredible arms, right, remember, like incredibly long arms.

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Speaker 1: His eighty one inch wingspan is huge.

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Speaker 2: It would feel like his arms could get to a

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Speaker 2: Mean he just was that kind of free.

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Speaker 1: Sat the season too and eleven because the Giants were teetering,

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Speaker 1: and he blocks the field goal in Dallas that keeps

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Speaker 1: the season alive. Snap is good again. Kick on the

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Speaker 1: train as by the Giants, and it bounds into the

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Speaker 1: and the New York Giants have saved their season.

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Speaker 4: Let's see who gets a hand on is it?

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Speaker 1: Jason Pierre Paul He's done everything else to night yep,

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Speaker 1: Jason Perier Paul, jp P Jim. I want to ask

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Speaker 1: you about Brian Kelly, who comes in at number sixty

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Speaker 1: seven on this list. What about him as a teammate

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Speaker 1: made him such a good player. He was the guy

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Speaker 1: who was a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: He called all the signals, he deed, put everyone together

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Speaker 3: and they had a strong defense eighteen eighty one.

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Speaker 1: They were really really good.

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Speaker 3: Ryan Kelly was a guy that basically was the mind

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Speaker 3: behind the defense in nineteen eighty one, you know, with

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Speaker 1: Meshed real well with Bill and had eighty one season.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about number sixty five on this list. Sean o'harer,

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Speaker 1: sean undrafted free agent starts his career with the Browns,

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Speaker 1: winds up coming over as a free agent, really solidified

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Speaker 1: that offensive line for you guys. What was he like

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Speaker 1: as a teammate, What was he like as a guy

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Speaker 1: to play with?

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Speaker 4: Kind of an undersized guy. He played against everybody, damnar

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Speaker 4: bigger than him, Guys like sixty five six six, three

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Speaker 4: hundred and thirty seven pounds that had no business competing

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Speaker 4: with and he laid it all on the line every

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Speaker 4: single time he had that challenge. That's a great leader.

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Speaker 4: Knew the game exiitent. His IQ of the game is

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Speaker 4: extremely high. You know, helped us get any and out

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Speaker 4: of pass protections. Just one hell of a leader.

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Speaker 2: He was the guy you went to to tell you

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Speaker 2: what plays were, to diagnose what had gotten wrong on play.

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Speaker 2: He's such a great guy. As we know, he's such

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Speaker 2: an affable presence in the locker room. But he was

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Speaker 2: the guy good game or bad game that you went

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Speaker 2: to because he could break everything down. They always tell

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Speaker 2: you to talk to the offensive lineman because they know everything,

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Speaker 2: and he was the epitome of that. He knew everything

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Speaker 1: It's being an offensive lineman and Giants history. Number sixty

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Speaker 2: Their good teams have always had good offensive line. To me,

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Speaker 1: Well, the longevity two right, the number sixty three is

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I think this where all started out. I mean,

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Speaker 1: A little history lesson because I know neither of you

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Speaker 2: I don't think you had any contact with it any either.

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Speaker 1: His name is cal Hubbard. He played for the Giants

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Speaker 1: just for a couple of years back in nineteen thirty six.

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Speaker 1: It's a charter member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: He's the only guy that's in both the Pro Football

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Speaker 2: Incredible.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I did it as an umpire, but

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Speaker 2: Right, This is one of the great players in NFL history,

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Speaker 2: and he had you know, he had a very short

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Speaker 2: He was brought in specifically to improve the Giants defense.

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Speaker 2: And then I believe in the season in which he arrived,

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Speaker 1: Number sixty eight on the list is another outstanding defensive

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Speaker 2: He was well, he was like the sort of the

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Speaker 4: I rented my first place from Keith Hammelton, my first

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Speaker 2: Was he as much of a character as the landlord was.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, I could definitely see his demeanor as a player

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Speaker 1: Jim, I mean, obviously underrated player, underrated player, really good player.

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Speaker 3: He dominated that that defensive tackle spot.

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Speaker 5: Let's go, let's that's knock a load on the ass night,

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Speaker 1: There's like the playoffs.

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Speaker 5: Don't I'm coming all night, big dad. You're not gonna

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Speaker 3: He stepped up in games, big games. He was a

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean he originally came up as an edge

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Speaker 3: He was from pitt right.

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Speaker 1: Judy number seventy again another one from the thirties, but

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Speaker 2: This guy literally made an impact on both sides. Of

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Speaker 2: That's certainly worthy of at least the seventieth spots.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you're you're leading the league in interceptions,

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Speaker 1: It kind of brings us all together here as we're

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Speaker 4: Oh? Absolutely, you know, And I knew when I got

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Speaker 1: On, Jim. Obviously, you know you played a legendary team.

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Speaker 1: It's got to be a really cool feeling to know

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Speaker 3: And you know, I got goosebumps when I got it,

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Speaker 1: Cool stuff. Judy, thank you so much for being a

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Speaker 1: and a lot of fun spending time with you here.

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Speaker 2: It's been great and brought back a whole lot of

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Brannon, always good to see you as well.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for having me. Man. I enjoyed seeing that you know,

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Speaker 1: None kind of sums up. Once a giant, always a giant.

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Speaker 1: So for Judy Battista, Jim Burt, Brandon Jacobs and I

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