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Speaker 6: twenty one, episode number one oh five. Welcome to the

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Speaker 2: We got our normal.

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Speaker 6: Crew in here, and we've added for this week mister

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Speaker 6: Tommy Yarsh coming to bring a little little excitement.

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Speaker 2: I just, honestly, I felt like it was the right.

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Speaker 6: Thing to do, especially after yesterday seemed like y'all were

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Speaker 6: developing such great chemistry on the Draft show that it

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Speaker 6: might make sense to just throw you in over here.

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Speaker 2: Uh watch went viral I think.

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Speaker 6: Yesterday talking about talking about some man named Hella Trash.

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Speaker 2: I think his name was last week, that last week, yesterday.

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Speaker 7: Now yesterday was I don't even know if I could say.

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Speaker 8: It, and I don't even.

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Speaker 9: Know if it'll be a good taste because ms Ambar

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Speaker 9: is here. But then they don't do it for the

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Speaker 9: previous shows. There is a doctor Ella Trash, Ella tro surgeon.

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Speaker 8: Yeah right, Ella Trash.

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Speaker 10: But I thought lovely man by the way, fantastic surgeon, excellent, excellent,

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Speaker 10: because what was.

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Speaker 9: Talking about doctor Cooper, and some people have been coming

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Speaker 9: back with some bad knees or whatever after going to

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Speaker 9: doctor Cooper. I ain't say any doing a bad job.

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Speaker 9: I'm just noticing that even after they go to him,

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Speaker 9: like man, I wonder if players are gonna end up

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Speaker 9: saying guessing maybe trav On or something. That's maybe that's why.

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Speaker 9: But then I found out there's another a c doctor

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Speaker 9: doctor Hello Trash, Ella Trash. I thought he said, hello Trash.

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Speaker 9: I'd rather go to doctor Cooper than go to somebody na,

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Speaker 9: I'd rather go to anybody in Helo Trash. If the

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Speaker 9: name is Helo Trash. I'm a little bit worried. I

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Speaker 9: get I'm with you that. I'm just glad that we

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Speaker 9: ain't fired because I said, I mean, you gotta smile

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Speaker 9: on your face.

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Speaker 6: So that means we Now, I haven't gotten a phone

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Speaker 6: call yet, so let's just keep our fingers crossed and

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Speaker 6: we'll hope that that nothing ever comes to this.

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Speaker 7: Shout out the people in charge of not getting us fired.

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Speaker 2: By the way, we love all the doctors at that.

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Speaker 2: Good job, guys. Anyway, we got a lot we're gonna

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Speaker 2: get into today.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 6: We got we got a little Yetti time that we're

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Speaker 6: gonna do with a g She has a little game

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Speaker 6: In the third segment, we got our Yetti cups and

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Speaker 12: So you're welcome. You're welcome. This was your idea, yes.

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Speaker 2: But it was not her cup. It was my cup

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Speaker 2: that I bestowed upon.

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Speaker 12: But it all started with the brains right here. So

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Speaker 12: you're welcome.

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Speaker 7: So it's your cup. Thank you.

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Speaker 6: It's your cup now, my cup, your cup now, So

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Speaker 9: I actually got a couple of Yetti coolers.

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Speaker 7: You know, i'd be barbecuing and things.

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Speaker 7: And all the year to give us some more money.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I got my yetti cooler ready for this weekend

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Speaker 2: They made bowls bowls. Yees wait, actual bulls.

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Speaker 11: Like big balls, like yesterday at the draaming table, all.

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Speaker 6: the third segment. I wanted to start though first today

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Speaker 6: But I remember last week GOT you were saying you

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Speaker 10: Christian Parker, Okay, So that's the Eagles defensive pass game

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Speaker 10: coordinator in DB's coach Pros. Of the four finalists that

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Speaker 8: He has the best track record developmentally.

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Speaker 10: Develop Patricks are tanning to an All Pro and two

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Speaker 10: you know so much comes from your pass rush and

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Speaker 10: That would be the pros and cons there with mister Parker, all.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, no time, you know something that'll really help a

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Speaker 9: secondary's coach. And all these guys are like secondaries, all

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Speaker 10: So please time, I would push back a little bit

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Speaker 10: That's the lack thereof if you're putting way too much

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Speaker 6: And then other thing I'll say on that too, is

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Speaker 6: Because he has not done that, that's where you're taking

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Speaker 6: here's how I want the rush to go and how

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Speaker 8: That's true, all right.

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Speaker 10: Deronte Jones, Vikings, defensive pass game coordinator your pros. He

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Speaker 10: Gainn former Cardinals head coach Jonathan Gannon. He's interviewing with

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Speaker 10: two NFC East teams in the mix. There pros he

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Speaker 10: fits the bill in terms of former experience right these coordinators,

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Speaker 10: The last five defensive coordinators in Dallas have been former

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Speaker 10: Three years of Arizona and then two years as the

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Speaker 10: He is familiar with Clayton Adams, the offensive coordinator for

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Speaker 10: He was part of He worked under Matti Refluce in Indianapolis, and.

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Speaker 8: That was there's your pros and cons there, all right?

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Speaker 2: Give me Jim Leonard, all right, last.

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Speaker 8: One, Jim Leonard.

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Speaker 10: So the interesting thing about Leonard, and I was told

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Speaker 10: Really interesting if that places a kind of time stamp

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Speaker 8: He's done that.

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Speaker 10: The Broncos jumped from nineteenth to seventh in past defense

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Speaker 10: He played for him with the Jets when Schoenheimer was

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Speaker 10: He only has collegiate defensive coordinator experience, no NFL experience,

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Speaker 6: defensive coordinators. Cowboys are in the process of trying to

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Speaker 2: So what I want to do?

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Speaker 6: I know Tommy in the last segment he gave us

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Speaker 2: Ag Let's start with you.

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Speaker 11: Number one is the one we talked about all that

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Speaker 7: Not interviewed talking about coaching.

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Speaker 12: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, oh is he is he a free agent.

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Speaker 6: He's a free he's not in the contract right contract.

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Speaker 2: If it's contract, then we can talk this year.

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Speaker 2: I think he's interviewing for head coaching jobs.

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Speaker 6: That's why we haven't really talked about him, because the

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Speaker 6: I think I saw that two different teams have interviewed him.

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Speaker 11: No, but he I know, he's like the top one

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Speaker 6: I think we all were like, Wow, who's that guy?

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Speaker 12: But uh, Leonard, he's my top one. After that.

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Speaker 12: They just they.

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Speaker 11: Everything that Tommy said doesn't get me excited. Even with

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Speaker 12: Yeah, why not?

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Speaker 11: You know, That's the biggest pro I see in my

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Speaker 11: not the best person to say, hey, let me give

445
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Speaker 11: you the best judgment at the moment. But so far,

446
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Speaker 11: based on the resume of these guys, no one really

447
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Speaker 11: catches my attention other than gym A right fotch.

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Speaker 9: Like I said last week, man, I love it when

449
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Speaker 9: I don't know these people. I love it when when

450
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Speaker 9: you don't have this history of your job not working.

451
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Speaker 7: You know.

452
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Speaker 9: For example, I was I was reading the other day

453
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Speaker 9: Adam Gase is like being talked to right now, boy

454
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Speaker 9: with his history. You know what I'm saying. We talked

455
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Speaker 9: about Adam Gates right now, you know what I mean.

456
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Speaker 9: But Claytonnams, I know who the hell Clayton Adams was,

457
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Speaker 9: and look at what he comes in. I like the

458
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Speaker 9: idea of a young coach fresh ideas. But what I

459
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Speaker 9: like about this group of guys that they've brought in

460
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Speaker 9: is that they've worked under the superpower coaches. So you know,

461
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Speaker 9: we can't get fans, yeah, but we got this guy.

462
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Speaker 9: We can't get you know, flora Is but we but

463
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Speaker 9: we got this guy. But the guys that are in

464
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Speaker 9: charge of like putting their whole thing together, and I

465
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Speaker 9: guess you just kind of break down who they are,

466
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Speaker 9: what they do best, and what they'll bring to you.

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Speaker 9: I value. I'll just say Gannon last first of all.

468
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Speaker 9: But I'm thinking about Christian Parker, right, and if one

469
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Speaker 9: of his is I'm a teacher or whatever, right, So cool,

470
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Speaker 9: you're a teacher and you can bring Fangio style here.

471
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Speaker 9: I think how the Cowboys are gonna be built is man,

472
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Speaker 9: we don't know if they're gonna go and get that

473
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Speaker 9: one disgrunner pass rush that I'm thinking about. Maybe in

474
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Speaker 9: trade situations, but you're probably gonna have a bunch of

475
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Speaker 9: players and your superstar is gonna be upfront, but maybe

476
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Speaker 9: a secondary of just hard work guys, you know what

477
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Speaker 9: I mean, middle of the row, hard work guys. I

478
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Speaker 9: would want the coach that can improve the guys as

479
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Speaker 9: opposed to we think about Jones, who is I need

480
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Speaker 9: this specific type of guy to make my Vikings thing work.

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Speaker 7: You see what I'm saying.

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Speaker 9: I don't know if the Jones are gonna go and

483
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Speaker 9: get him exactly what he needs to make it work.

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Speaker 9: So if I had the rank it, I would go

485
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Speaker 9: Parker first, because he seems to be the teacher. I

486
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Speaker 9: don't know a whole bunch about Leonard in that way,

487
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Speaker 9: but they preach that he's a teacher and high energy guy.

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Speaker 9: I'll go Leonard second. Jones. I would love to have

489
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Speaker 9: that fangio thing. I mean that Flores's thing to where

490
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Speaker 9: our safety is moving around. We confuse and folks, but

491
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Speaker 9: I don't know we can turn that kind of defense

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Speaker 9: around in two or three years. I'll say Jones third,

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Speaker 9: and I'll go Ganning for simply by the way of

494
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Speaker 9: who he's, you know, who is associated with.

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Speaker 10: So I've come to really like Christian Parker as we've

496
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Speaker 10: done more and more research on this, I think, you know,

497
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Speaker 10: it's evident to me at least that it seems like

498
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Speaker 10: the Cowboys are looking for a secondary focus type of coach.

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Speaker 6: By the way, all of these except for gannon passing

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Speaker 6: game coordinator.

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Speaker 10: Right, right, So these guys have a strong history in

502
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Speaker 10: the secondary, and it seems, obviously, given how this past

503
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Speaker 10: year went, that makes sense. I think his development of

504
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Speaker 10: young players. Think about the Cowboys love Savonne Rebel, they

505
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Speaker 10: love their third round pick.

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Speaker 8: They think he's going to be a really good player. Yeah,

507
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Speaker 8: and I think he can't.

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Speaker 10: He has a really good chance to be with a

509
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Speaker 10: full off season and if he gets that brace off

510
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Speaker 10: of his knee. You also think about the fact they've

511
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Speaker 10: got two first round picks, and as we've been talking

512
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Speaker 10: on the Draft Show, there's plenty of corners out there

513
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Speaker 10: that could make sense for them in that first round

514
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Speaker 10: of twelve or twenty. So if they're gonna go corners,

515
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Speaker 10: you want a guy that can develop some of those

516
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Speaker 10: young players. That's certainly a big checkbox. I think he

517
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Speaker 10: checks that in a lot of ways for you. I

518
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Speaker 10: think Jim Leonard does a lot of the same things.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 10: I watched a coaching video of his at Wisconsin when

521
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Speaker 10: he was putting on a coaching clinic, and it's very

522
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Speaker 10: easy to see why players are able to understand what

523
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Speaker 10: it is that he's teaching them based on how he

524
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Speaker 10: teaches coaches. I'm not a football player, but even I

525
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Speaker 10: was able to understand some of the concepts and things

526
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Speaker 10: that he was laying out in front of him. So

527
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Speaker 10: I think he's an effective communicator. He's going to bring

528
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Speaker 10: that high energy stuff that Brian Schoenheimer is looking for.

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Speaker 10: So that makes a lot of sense. So that would

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Speaker 10: be my one of my two. And then deroante Jones.

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Speaker 10: You know, I don't hate the fact that it's so

532
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Speaker 10: veteran Laden. I don't because I think that he's got

533
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Speaker 10: smart players who know where they're supposed to be, and

534
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Speaker 10: he instills that in them. They know where they're supposed

535
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Speaker 10: to be, they know what their job is. I don't

536
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Speaker 10: think Dallas has that on the roster right now. They're

537
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Speaker 10: way too young at corner, and then they are two safeties.

538
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Speaker 10: You know, you just don't know what you're going to get.

539
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Speaker 10: And you put Donovan Wilson in so many bad situations

540
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Speaker 10: this year and he's in single high coverage. Mallie Cooker

541
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Speaker 10: is hurt half the year, so you don't I don't

542
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Speaker 10: think they have the pieces in place for that. Are

543
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Speaker 10: they going to be willing to spend in free agency

544
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Speaker 10: to fill that that's a big question.

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Speaker 8: And then Gannon would be last. I don't I don't.

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Speaker 10: Discount him for the defensive coordinator work that he did

547
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Speaker 10: in Philadelphia, but the work as a head coach is

548
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Speaker 10: a little bit scary because that Cardinals defense was never

549
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Speaker 10: really anything notable until they played the Cowboys. But yeah,

550
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Speaker 10: that one, that one would worry me just a little bit.

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Speaker 8: I don't think it.

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Speaker 10: I'm not saying it can't work, but I think Watch

553
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Speaker 10: and I had the same We have the same rankings.

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Speaker 7: The same rankings Parker first, Jones.

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Speaker 2: And Gan Well, I will say this, did you go ahead, Well,

556
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Speaker 2: I'll say this.

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Speaker 6: I'll start at the bottom because I think we all

558
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Speaker 6: agree Gan is probably the one that we're least intrigued by.

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Speaker 6: Next would be Deronte Jones for me as well, because

560
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Speaker 6: mainly because I look at the numbers. You would just

561
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Speaker 6: telling me about that Minnesota defense and seems like the

562
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Speaker 6: secondary is the worst part of that defense. Like we

563
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Speaker 6: really love what that defense was able to do, it

564
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Speaker 6: sounds like the secondary was the was the worst part

565
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Speaker 6: that defense.

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Speaker 2: So that doesn't really excite me.

567
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Speaker 6: And I don't know if I necessarily buy into the

568
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Speaker 6: idea that just because he's there, he'll be able to

569
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Speaker 6: bring what Flora Is brings, right, I don't necessarily ascribe

570
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Speaker 6: to that. Then I get to those other two and

571
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Speaker 6: it's really more about what I've read about them as coaches.

572
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Speaker 6: One of the things I read about a Christian Parker

573
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Speaker 6: that really intrigued me is the way he conducts his meetings. Supposedly,

574
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Speaker 6: he conducts them in a way to where everyone in

575
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Speaker 6: the room is expected to be able to understand the why.

576
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Speaker 6: He doesn't just say, here's what you're going to do.

577
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Speaker 6: You know, it's not good enough to know what your

578
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Speaker 6: responsibility is. You have to understand the why, why are

579
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Speaker 6: we doing it this way?

580
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Speaker 2: Why? Why is my role what it is.

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Speaker 6: In the context of the overall defense. And I think

582
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Speaker 6: that makes for a smarter team, smarter players. And although

583
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Speaker 6: you know, I think sometimes people can say you can

584
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Speaker 6: get bogged down, but I think when you have the

585
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Speaker 6: ability to really think through the full scope of what

586
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Speaker 6: you're doing, I think it makes you a better player.

587
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Speaker 6: I think you can play faster. I think you can

588
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Speaker 6: adapt quicker because you understand. If I know how what

589
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Speaker 6: I'm doing relates to the linebacker, then you know whatever

590
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Speaker 6: the look is, you get you know, well, I may

591
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Speaker 6: have to adjust like this because my linebacker's doing this.

592
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 6: I have to do this because I know my past

593
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Speaker 6: rush is doing this and I expect it to have

594
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Speaker 6: these results. And so I love the fact that he

595
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Speaker 6: really leans heavily on feedback from his players and making

596
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Speaker 6: sure his players understand the why. So if I had

597
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Speaker 6: to choose between the two, I probably am still going

598
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Speaker 6: to give Leonard just a slight edge just because he

599
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Speaker 6: has experience as a defensive coordinator, even though it's just

600
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Speaker 6: in college, but he has actually called a defense, So

601
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Speaker 6: I'll give him a bit of an edge. But man,

602
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Speaker 6: I really really like Christian Parker. I like him a lot,

603
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Speaker 6: and I think he's going to be a guy we're

604
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Speaker 6: going to be hearing about for years to come when

605
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Speaker 6: it's talking you talk about coaches in the NFL. What

606
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Speaker 6: he does I think will be something that at some

607
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Speaker 6: point WI will get him to the point where he'll

608
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Speaker 6: probably be a head coach in this league.

609
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Speaker 7: Debate team dere boy.

610
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Speaker 6: I'm just saying, like he really intrigues. I don't know,

611
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Speaker 6: I can't remember where I read that. I would I

612
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Speaker 6: would give credit to it so you guys could read

613
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Speaker 6: it as well. But I just thought it was really

614
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Speaker 6: really fascinating how he approaches that, you know, and and

615
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Speaker 6: they mentioned that he kind of treats it as he

616
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Speaker 6: treated as he was being taught when he was getting

617
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Speaker 6: his criminal justice degree.

618
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Speaker 2: I think it was and that was something that.

619
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Speaker 6: He thought was good for him as far as how

620
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Speaker 6: it helped him understand the material he was he was learning.

621
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Speaker 2: So I just love that.

622
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Speaker 6: I love when people take real life experiences and learning

623
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Speaker 6: experiences and translates.

624
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Speaker 2: In the football. What were you about to saying? Are

625
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Speaker 2: you about to say something to ask a question or

626
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Speaker 2: something I was gonna ask.

627
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Speaker 11: You guys a question? I don't know how crazy, Yeah,

628
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Speaker 11: all of y'all. I don't know how to really pose

629
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Speaker 11: the question. But basically in that end of the season

630
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Speaker 11: interview that they did, Jerry Jones talking about all it's

631
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Speaker 11: going to be a mutual conversation, mutual decision between him

632
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Speaker 11: and Brian Schattenheimer and making this hiring decision. My question

633
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Speaker 11: to you guys is based on the quote unquote lack

634
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Speaker 11: of intervenence or.

635
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Speaker 2: What's the word like intervention?

636
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Speaker 12: Intervention?

637
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Speaker 11: Yes, based on the lack of intervention that we saw

638
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 11: last year in that season with what you were seeing

639
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 11: happening on the defensive side.

640
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Speaker 12: Of the ball. How qualified or how.

641
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Speaker 11: Much value do you give into, let's say, Brian Schottenheimer's

642
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 11: decision or evaluation on these.

643
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Speaker 2: Hiring Can I qualify something here?

644
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Speaker 6: I don't want to assume that it was a lack

645
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 6: of intervention that was the reason.

646
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 2: For the result.

647
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Speaker 6: I think it is a plausible thought that the head

648
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 6: coach was saying, I really want to see X Y Z,

649
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 6: and the defensive coordinator said, yeah, I ain't doing that.

650
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Speaker 12: Well, I'm just going based on so, and we don't

651
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Speaker 12: know what happens.

652
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Speaker 2: Behare we don't We don't think.

653
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Speaker 12: I think most in.

654
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Speaker 11: This question, this question based on one of the results,

655
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Speaker 11: the end result, and two on what was shown to

656
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Speaker 11: the media. That's all to the public eye. I'm not yeah,

657
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 11: a lot of things could have happened, but I'm just

658
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 11: saying based on what we've heard them talking the media

659
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Speaker 11: and all that. Again, a lot of things we don't actually.

660
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Speaker 6: Know, right, but based on what we heard them saying

661
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Speaker 6: the media is why I get that impression. Because the

662
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Speaker 6: fact that the head coach and the owner were like, yeah,

663
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Speaker 6: we we thought our linebacker was supposed to be playing

664
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Speaker 6: like that was that was the plan, was that.

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Speaker 2: He was going to play. We have no idea why

666
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Speaker 2: he didn't play.

667
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Speaker 6: That says to me that somebody on the defensive side

668
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Speaker 6: of the ball made the decision that they weren't going

669
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Speaker 6: to expert that you can hold the power, but what's

670
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Speaker 6: the at the end of the day, how much power

671
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Speaker 6: do you have when if if, if the guy doesn't

672
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Speaker 6: do it, what's going to happen.

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Speaker 11: If you're paying me and I'm not doing what you're

674
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Speaker 11: telling me to do, I would assume that paycheck would

675
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Speaker 11: stop coming very quickly. Yes, it happened at the end

676
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Speaker 11: of the season, right, But when you're talking about urgency,

677
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 11: sense of urgency and the way that Dave Prescott is

678
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Speaker 11: playing in the season, and you're talking about not wasting

679
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Speaker 11: any more time, there's no room for Hey, I told

680
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Speaker 11: you or I thought we were doing this, you didn't

681
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Speaker 11: do it, and then it didn't happen and you're still

682
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Speaker 11: here and then oh now you're in the press box

683
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Speaker 11: calling like no, no.

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Speaker 6: But everything she said, But they were but at that point,

685
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Speaker 6: but at that point they were out of it, Like

686
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Speaker 6: did you want them just the ceremonial leagues that's great.

687
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Speaker 6: I don't think that that's necessarily how they look at it.

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Speaker 9: I think that's a Barr's point though, And please, if

689
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Speaker 9: from wrong, tarry from wrong. But like, if Fluis is

690
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Speaker 9: gonna be like and I hate we still Tucker, it'll

691
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Speaker 9: working on. But if flu Is gonna be rogue, I'm

692
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Speaker 9: gonna do what I want to do. God, the intervention

693
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Speaker 9: would be either Shoddy going, well, I find go and

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Speaker 9: I'll let Aaron call the last four games or something,

695
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Speaker 9: or Jerry going, okay, well here's your buyout. High let

696
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Speaker 9: you and I'll see if anybody on the staff could

697
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Speaker 9: be my next DC probably doing these interviews, like, where's

698
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Speaker 9: the intervention coming from? If even if Flues went road,

699
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Speaker 9: I think there's what.

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Speaker 6: It is fair to say the Cowboys should have done this.

701
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Speaker 6: They should have got rid of him if he was

702
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 6: doing that. Sure, that doesn't mean that it's not true

703
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Speaker 6: that maybe he was doing that. That's all I'm saying

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Speaker 6: is I don't think we can make an assumption that

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Speaker 6: he was he was being he was, that the head

706
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Speaker 6: coach was not saying I need to see these things,

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Speaker 6: or that the owner was not saying I need to

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Speaker 6: see these things. I just think that's an assumption I'm

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Speaker 6: not willing to make. I look at it and I say,

710
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Speaker 6: there is a real possibility here, as what I saw

711
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Speaker 6: with that linebacker, there's a real possibility that they had

712
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Speaker 6: They went into meetings and they came out of those

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Speaker 6: meetings with an expectation, and then it didn't happen on Sundays.

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Speaker 11: Man, I just know what the result was. I don't

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Speaker 11: know what happened behind the doors. But my whole initial

716
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 11: question was more about how much are we trusting the

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Speaker 11: evaluation for the hiring of this position, because at the

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Speaker 11: end of the day, we've gone through quite a few

719
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Speaker 11: defensive coordinators and it hasn't worked out just yet.

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Speaker 6: So but those were but those hires were more directed

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Speaker 6: at like Jerry. Wasn't Jerry more involved with that thing?

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Speaker 12: Yeah?

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Speaker 11: But I'm talking about after this first year with Schottenheimer,

724
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Speaker 11: how much are you valuing, valuing or trusting his I

725
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Speaker 11: don't know the not decision, but evaluation for this position.

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Speaker 9: Because then now you can go, well, if my new

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Speaker 9: coach goes rogue, do I have somebody that can check him?

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Speaker 9: So now your criticism of Schetdenheimer is are you even

729
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Speaker 9: checking guys on your staff or of Jerry, Hey, are

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Speaker 9: you even like, do you even have it?

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Speaker 2: Ain't you to go and.

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Speaker 9: Fire somebody that that's going rogue or maybe they're not

733
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 9: doing their their job properly or whatever. Man players, But

734
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Speaker 9: you know, coaches, I mean.

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Speaker 2: What I will say.

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Speaker 6: What I will say is I look at this and

737
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Speaker 6: I say, it's one thing to have a guy who

738
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Speaker 6: has who is a former NFL head coach, who is

739
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Speaker 6: an older, more senior type coach, where he might feel like,

740
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Speaker 6: what's the worst you're gonna do to me?

741
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Speaker 11: Now?

742
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Speaker 6: Yeah, as opposed to you bring in your own guy

743
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Speaker 6: who is beholden to you, these more senior guys, you know.

744
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 6: But but you bring in somebody that's more beholden to you. Now,

745
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 6: now they got a little more buy in to I

746
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 6: want to see this head coach too. Well, I'm gonna

747
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Speaker 6: I'm gonna listen to what this head coach is asking

748
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Speaker 6: me to do, because at the end of the day,

749
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Speaker 6: we're all adults. Like Amber, you work on my staff.

750
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Speaker 6: But if you went rogue, like ultimately I can't do

751
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 6: anything until after the fact, I can't do anything before it.

752
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Speaker 6: You would have to go rogue for me to then

753
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Speaker 6: respond to it, right, So grown people, grown people, you

754
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Speaker 6: can do what you want to do.

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Speaker 9: I think the problem is is if Ambar has four

756
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Speaker 9: more documentaries left and she go rode for one of them,

757
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Speaker 9: you let her do the other three, like stop like

758
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Speaker 9: fire her.

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Speaker 6: No, But that's actually a great point. That's actually great

760
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Speaker 6: point because you look at it and what you do

761
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Speaker 6: is you keep trying to give her the benefit of doubt.

762
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Speaker 6: My shoes, because I'd be like, man, she's highly decorated.

763
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Speaker 6: She wins a lot of awards. This time she went rogue,

764
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Speaker 6: but maybe she won't this next time. So let me

765
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Speaker 6: give another shot. Okay, Imber this time, don't go roll.

766
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Speaker 6: Just just do what you've been.

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Speaker 7: The Flues ain't had no enemy, That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Well, yes, yes he has. He was not no, not with.

769
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Speaker 7: Us, not but his his first twelve.

770
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Speaker 2: But he was.

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Speaker 6: But he was an NFL head coach that got that

772
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Speaker 6: job because of how well he did as a defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 2: So he had some skins on the wall. Now it's

774
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Speaker 2: not the ultimate, but he had some skins on the wall.

775
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Speaker 2: And I think there probably was some earlier.

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Speaker 6: Parts of the season where they were like, Okay, we're

777
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 6: gonna we're gonna trust you, dude.

778
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Speaker 2: Now come on now, we're gonna trust you.

779
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Speaker 9: And you know what, he's made great documentaries before, but

780
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Speaker 9: it ain't like he went but it ain't like he

781
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 9: went from great to good. He went from great to

782
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Speaker 9: the worst documentaries we've seen.

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Speaker 2: This is all fair, This is all fair. And by

784
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Speaker 2: the way, that's why he's no longer here.

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Speaker 7: That's why. That's why he's no longer here. That's why

786
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Speaker 7: I wouldn't let him do them last right.

787
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Speaker 6: But I think I think at that point, I think

788
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Speaker 6: a lot of it was just kind of like water

789
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Speaker 6: under the bridge. We know we're making a move at

790
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Speaker 6: the end of the season. We're already out of it,

791
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Speaker 6: so it really doesn't matter at this point.

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Speaker 2: Put him up in the booth, yea, get up the boot.

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Speaker 11: Yeah we should go to break to break call me

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Speaker 11: Zip? Zip or answer? So either you answer or take

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Speaker 11: a sip out of your yetti. I forgot to give

884
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Speaker 11: y'all water, but yeah, we're gonna do it.

885
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Speaker 6: Pretend I got it last year for training camp. But

886
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 6: just so you know, it's it's brand new. It's still

887
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Speaker 6: got the cardboard little thing on the inside. That's a

888
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Speaker 6: brand new cub bro.

889
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Speaker 7: I'm gonna just drink my days, y'all blue here, I guess.

890
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Speaker 12: Just hold your cup pretending.

891
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Speaker 7: Yeah, and then that got a different bottle.

892
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Speaker 12: Yeah, all right. First question?

893
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Speaker 11: Would the Cowboys Super Bowl expectations be the same if

894
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Speaker 11: they were in the a f C instead of the

895
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Speaker 11: nf See wait again, Would the Cowboys Super Bowl expectations

896
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Speaker 11: be the same if they were in the AFC rather

897
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Speaker 11: than the NFC? Would they be looked at differently if

898
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Speaker 11: they were in the other conference or would they still

899
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Speaker 11: be what they are?

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Speaker 7: I don't think so.

901
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Speaker 9: I think people have just perceived the Cowboys as the Cowboys.

902
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 9: If where you're going is that some other teams don't

903
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 9: get similar criticism for being just as bad as the

904
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Speaker 9: Cowboys have been. That you, right, But I just think

905
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Speaker 9: that's just a cowboy thing. That's just a good way.

906
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Speaker 6: The only difference I would see is that you could

907
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Speaker 6: say that by divisions, Like if they were in the

908
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Speaker 6: NFC South, yeah, they'd have been on the cusp of

909
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Speaker 6: the playoffs, like they would have been playing that last

910
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Speaker 6: week to get in the playoffs, right, But they're in

911
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Speaker 6: the NFC East and they have to deal with Philadelphia,

912
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Speaker 6: who tends to be, you know, up there with one

913
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Speaker 6: of the top teams in the league.

914
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Speaker 2: So yeah, I think division matters.

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Speaker 6: If they were the NFC West, they'd have been out

916
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Speaker 6: of it and maybe week five. I don't know, Like

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Speaker 6: it just depends on division that you're in more I

918
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Speaker 6: think than anything else in the national football game.

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Speaker 12: It goes both ways. If there were some other divisions

920
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Speaker 12: that will never be part.

921
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Speaker 2: Of the commerce site, that's my point.

922
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Speaker 6: NFC West, they they would not have even been in

923
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Speaker 6: consideration this year because those teams all played really well.

924
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Speaker 10: And you could say the same thing for some of

925
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Speaker 10: the divisions in the AFC too. I mean AFC East

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Speaker 10: Patriots and the Bills, the South with the Jaguars and

927
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Speaker 10: the Texans, the West with the Broncos and the Chargers,

928
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Speaker 10: and you're in and you're out. Really the only conference

929
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Speaker 10: or the only division that they could maybe have a

930
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Speaker 10: year in year out shot in is the AFC North

931
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Speaker 10: because Pittsburgh and Baltimore kind of usually stay on that

932
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Speaker 10: same level. Pittsburgh usually ends up like nine and eight

933
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Speaker 10: or something. Sorry my commlin, but that's just kind.

934
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Speaker 8: Of typically where they end ups. Would be right there

935
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Speaker 8: with yeah, and that would be close enough.

936
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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: Who is someone a player, former player, coach that fans

938
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Speaker 11: love but they wouldn't if they actually knew how they.

939
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Speaker 12: Were behind the camera in their.

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Speaker 8: Tastes for STI yeah, I think I will.

941
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Speaker 11: Thought you could applied maybe like Cowboys podcast staff, since

942
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Speaker 11: you haven't, like you've run into a few people already,

943
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Speaker 11: But I don't think you've had any of those type

944
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Speaker 11: of people.

945
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Speaker 9: But I love everybody that does YouTube on a content

946
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Speaker 9: on YouTube. I like all of our media friends. I

947
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Speaker 9: ain't gonna be mad to say about the people that

948
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Speaker 9: that you know, write stories ything like that. Everybody's been

949
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Speaker 9: pretty open to me.

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Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. So I don't know, man,

951
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Speaker 7: you mean it's hell in real life? You know what

952
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 7: I'm saying. Wow, you're a great host, you know, great

953
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:32,439
Speaker 7: co host when.

954
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Speaker 12: When Derek is here, so you're spreading lies?

955
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Speaker 7: Okay, time? How do I say she means healing?

956
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Speaker 2: Really?

957
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 8: I know you know I don't want to get in

958
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 8: that trouble.

959
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 2: You know I would just say this.

960
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 12: I'm playing talking to you. Easy solution.

961
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Speaker 2: There no adage. Don't meet your heroes in real life.

962
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's true. Like there there are there are and

963
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Speaker 6: I'm not gonna name an name. There are some, there

964
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Speaker 6: are some that's like the public perception is very different.

965
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Speaker 6: I will say this though, and I'll take this as

966
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Speaker 6: an opportunity to give a plug to a guy I

967
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Speaker 6: absolutely love because he is who he is all the

968
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Speaker 6: time with every single person that he comes in contact with.

969
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Speaker 6: And that's Darren Woodson, who should be in the Hall

970
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Speaker 6: of Fame. Hopefully he gets in this year. But you

971
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Speaker 6: ask anybody that deals with Darren Woodson, former player, media person,

972
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Speaker 6: you know, person that that that's rolling around and and

973
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Speaker 6: helping out in the office is just making sure everybody

974
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Speaker 6: has what they need from an administrative standpoint, Like everybody

975
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Speaker 6: has the same experience with Darren Woodson because he is

976
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Speaker 6: that kind of person. It's genuinely that he's just a

977
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Speaker 6: good person, and I respect that because that ain't the

978
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Speaker 6: case with a lot of people.

979
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Speaker 2: It's not the case.

980
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Speaker 6: But I'll tell you that that man is a He

981
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Speaker 6: is a stellar human being.

982
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Speaker 8: Bro completely agree.

983
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 7: I never met.

984
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Speaker 6: I'm sure, yeah, you get if you get medium, you'll

985
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Speaker 6: current player or former or.

986
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Speaker 12: At least just say the category of which one it was.

987
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Speaker 8: I'd say both current and former.

988
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Speaker 10: I would say there's there's some for both, okay, but

989
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 10: I mean you're gonna get that anywhere in the league.

990
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Speaker 6: By the way, that's life too, that there are a

991
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Speaker 6: lot of people in life that you run across. They

992
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 6: have their their their public relations personal personality, and they

993
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 6: got there behind the scenes personality.

994
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Speaker 2: You know, that's how most people are. You know, that's fair.

995
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 11: Most people like that last question, which, uh, let's imagine

996
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Speaker 11: we were in the playoffs.

997
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 8: I can't.

998
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 12: That's hard to imagine.

999
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 7: It was just two ago.

1000
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Speaker 2: Stop stop it which and.

1001
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 11: We're taking into consideration like not thinking about free agency

1002
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 11: or anything. We still have the same roster. Okay, which

1003
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 11: current Cowboys starter would be the biggest liability in the playoffs?

1004
00:44:58,200 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 8: Are you trying to get us fired?

1005
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 6: Or Like the funny part is we got a lot

1006
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 6: of people we could throw in that. Like, it's not

1007
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 6: like you could just say, oh yeah, it's definitely.

1008
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:09,760
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, yeah, that's.

1009
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Speaker 7: That's he'll work.

1010
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 8: I don't think a free agent, but I would be

1011
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 8: shocked if he works here next year.

1012
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 6: Well, his his rabbi has left the building, so I

1013
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 6: don't think he's got anybody that's that's calling for him.

1014
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 10: And I was talking with somebody about him earlier today actually,

1015
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 10: and the most jarring thing about the way that he played.

1016
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 10: And I'm not trying to talk on the guy, I

1017
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 10: promise I'm sure he's a good dude, but he's probably not.

1018
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 12: But the fact that players will be tweeting.

1019
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:42,919
Speaker 2: Like hey man, I heard what you said.

1020
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Speaker 10: People, Yeah, that's happened in the past for no reasons,

1021
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 10: not here anymore. But with linebackers, like sometimes offensive lineman

1022
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 10: will climb up and they get you right, it just happens.

1023
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 8: They're bigger.

1024
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Speaker 10: But with him, it was like so many times you

1025
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 10: would see it and he'd just settle into the block,

1026
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 10: as opposed to you know, you can try to let

1027
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 10: get off of it right and try to step up

1028
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 10: and make a play. He would just let himself get

1029
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 10: carried out of the play further and further and further, and.

1030
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Speaker 8: You just can't do that.

1031
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Speaker 6: I was watching this linebacker last week. I can't remember

1032
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Speaker 6: which linebacker was by one of the commentations, I think

1033
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 6: it was Troy, and he said because on the play,

1034
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Speaker 6: the linebacker diagnosed the play and before the offensive lineman

1035
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 6: could get to him, he got around him and he

1036
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 6: was up to make the play. And Troy made the

1037
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Speaker 6: point for a linebacker, you're giving up size if you're

1038
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 6: too slow with understanding what's about to happen. Then once

1039
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Speaker 6: that offensive lineman gets on you, it's not even fair

1040
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 6: to expect they're going to always be able to get

1041
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Speaker 6: off that block because they're giving up so much size.

1042
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Speaker 6: That's why it's so critical that linebackers understand the game

1043
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 6: in a way to where they can predict what's going

1044
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 6: to happen and they're a beat faster than the offensive

1045
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:54,919
Speaker 6: lineman can be to get to them. And that's where

1046
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Speaker 6: I think Kenneth Murray had the biggest problem. He just

1047
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 6: wasn't quick to identify what was happening and be able

1048
00:46:59,960 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 6: to react to it quick enough. And so once that

1049
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 6: guy got on him, it's a game over.

1050
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Speaker 12: Yeah, well it's game over for this show because we're

1051
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 12: done for the days.

1052
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 11: But well, next time, I won't let you guys be

1053
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 11: able to copy people's answers, so that way we get

1054
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Speaker 11: more like.

1055
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Speaker 6: Well, we would have more time if you wouldn't ask

1056
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 6: that question unless you gotta be real.

1057
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Speaker 12: And crazy defending everything, defend.

1058
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 2: You know, you know, don't look at it.

1059
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 12: People confuse.

1060
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 11: Mean being honest with being mean, But it's either do

1061
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 11: you want me to lie to your be honest?

1062
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Speaker 2: All right, that's rap.

1063
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Speaker 6: We'll see you guys next week, next Wednesday. Will be

1064
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Speaker 6: back till then. Tommy Yurs, Box, Lombardi, Ambergarcia, I'm Derek Heilton.

1065
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Speaker 6: This great live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio.

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