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Speaker 1: going to compete for Super Bowls and the other team

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Speaker 1: in the NFC West that had a really really good

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Speaker 1: day yesterday. And I have a theory, and listen, you

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Speaker 1: know where I stand on Cliff Kingsbury. I do not

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Speaker 1: trust him and I don't think that the offense has

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Speaker 1: translated when it matters most. But my theory on Kyler Murray,

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Speaker 1: and I said it a couple of weeks ago when

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Speaker 1: I heard Steve Young say, like, I think there's some

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Speaker 1: rumblings that they don't think he's a great leader. That's

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Speaker 1: why they overpaid J. J. Watt because they needed to

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Speaker 1: bring in his leadership. And as of week one, j

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Speaker 1: J was healthy and he was out there making plays

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Speaker 1: with Chandler Jones and they were kicking ass and taking names.

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Speaker 1: But I have never disputed, never argued that despite some

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Speaker 1: question marks, is he is he a true like franchise

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Speaker 1: quarterback as a person That is still yet to be determined.

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Speaker 1: He might be when you factor in his height, because

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Speaker 1: I don't think we'll ever see I'd never say never,

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Speaker 1: but it's not gonna be something that's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: consistent theme in the NFL five ft nine quarterbacks getting

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Speaker 1: drafted number one overall. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: discount that it can never happen again. But I do

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Speaker 1: think it's fair to take an educated guess that we're

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Speaker 1: a long way away from that happening again. But for

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Speaker 1: that to happen, you have to have such elite skills,

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Speaker 1: and that little dude in Arizona has elite skills. But

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Speaker 1: my theory on Kyler Murray is this early on in

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Speaker 1: the season, training camp now is a joke. No one

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Speaker 1: tackles live. Most of these teams don't even play their

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Speaker 1: starters in the preseason. Then you play a guy like

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, who is never gonna be fresher throughout the

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Speaker 1: season that he is in September, who's operating at warp speed,

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Speaker 1: whose explosiveness, whose change of direction, who's just play speed

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Speaker 1: is off the charts. There is zero chance you can

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Speaker 1: replicate that in practice, my guests would be the way

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Speaker 1: teams attempt to is they take like one of their

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Speaker 1: wide receivers from practice squad, they put them on the

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Speaker 1: scout team offense against the starting defense, and they have

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Speaker 1: him run around. You know, a guy like a four

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Speaker 1: or four guy, but that is not the same. And

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Speaker 1: I think you saw against the Titans defense that little

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Speaker 1: guy runs around. If it was two hand touch, the

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Speaker 1: scorer would have been the same. They could not get

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Speaker 1: their hands on him. He he looked like it looked

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Speaker 1: like varsity verse JV. It looked like someone if you're

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Speaker 1: at Florida or Alabama, Ohio State, the kids they're you know,

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Speaker 1: scouting to recruit and offer a scholarship. That's what it

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Speaker 1: looks like. But that was the NFL. He toyed with

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Speaker 1: them because there is no way and I think it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be like this the next three or four weeks

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Speaker 1: until until these NFL defense is kind of get their

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Speaker 1: legs under him and get accustomed to the speed, because

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Speaker 1: you don't get accustomed to the speed anymore in training

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Speaker 1: camp because you're not tackling. It's it's half ass, even

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Speaker 1: when you think you're going full speed. And maybe it's

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Speaker 1: always been like that. There hasn't really been that many

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Speaker 1: players like Kyler Murray. It would have always been challenging,

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Speaker 1: but it's never been more challenging given the reps, given

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Speaker 1: the physicality of the off season or lack thereof, and

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Speaker 1: the limited reps you get in the preseason games and

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Speaker 1: that that might be for the better, even though we

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Speaker 1: did see a lot of injuries, and he toyed with

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Speaker 1: him that there is no way to replicate that Monday

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Speaker 1: through Saturday, and it showed. And especially when a guy

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Speaker 1: is really talented, right, it's not like it's not just

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Speaker 1: all physical attributes, Like he's an accurate thrower on the move,

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Speaker 1: Like he keeps his eyes down field when he's scrambling.

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Speaker 1: So he's just he's a menace. He really is. And

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Speaker 1: I'm as critical you know, on players and coaches as anyone.

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Speaker 1: But here's what I will say. If you make it

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Speaker 1: as a player on a fifty three man roster, that

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Speaker 1: is an incredible fucking accomplishment. That is that there is

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Speaker 1: zero luck involved in that. The ability to make it

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Speaker 1: to college football, to excel in college football, to then

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Speaker 1: get drafted or invited to a training camp, then to

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Speaker 1: beat out people in the training camp. That is, it's

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Speaker 1: a merit based, um, you know, decision ultimately, especially for

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Speaker 1: guys that are fifth, six, seventh undrafted free agents. And

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Speaker 1: even if you don't play well in training camp, if

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Speaker 1: you're a first or second round pick, you deserve that

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Speaker 1: by high level of play at whatever college you were

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Speaker 1: at to get drafted that high, it is a remarkable accomplishment.

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Speaker 1: Anyone listening, I think we all agree to play in

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Speaker 1: the NFL to get to dress on a game day

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Speaker 1: and listen. I you get jaded when you're a scout

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Speaker 1: or when you're in that world and you get negative

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Speaker 1: and be like, this guy sucks. This guy sucks relative

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Speaker 1: to other players. Just because you suck relative to like

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins or Keenan Allen as a wide receiver does

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Speaker 1: not mean you're a bad wide receiver. You're better than

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Speaker 1: the overwhelming majority of humans that have ever played the position.

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Speaker 1: It is much more difficult to make it as a

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Speaker 1: player to the league than make it as a coach.

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Speaker 1: I actually think with the money that has gone up,

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Speaker 1: I say this all the time, I think the NFL

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Speaker 1: coaching profession has become the athletic Wall Street. It pays

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Speaker 1: a premium every coordinator I'm gonna keep hammer in this home.

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Speaker 1: They make seven figures. So I never feel bad for

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Speaker 1: coaches when they get fired, And a lot of times

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Speaker 1: it's justifiably so right that that they deserve to get fired.

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Speaker 1: They're all Rich that they are the one per centers

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Speaker 1: of America. And for every Andy Reid and Sean Payton,

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Speaker 1: those guys are head coaches. I'm talking assistant coaches. For

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Speaker 1: every good assistant coaches throughout the league, like Brandon Staley

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Speaker 1: was last year and Nick Sirianni or you know, guys

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Speaker 1: who are assistant coaches get their shot. There are a

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Speaker 1: lot of guys that have no business being coordinators. They

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Speaker 1: know the right people. I think the agents have realized

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Speaker 1: it's an easy way to use their coaching fraternity and

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Speaker 1: the different people they represent to take advantage of the

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Speaker 1: whole situation that Listen, we all live in the real world.

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Speaker 1: How many people do you know make over a million dollars? Right?

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Speaker 1: That aren't pro athletes? That aren't I mean, I'm talking,

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Speaker 1: actually no, the answer probably isn't that many. Right. It

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Speaker 1: is very, very difficult in America to find a job

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Speaker 1: that pays you seven figures. And yesterday the Titans rolled

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Speaker 1: out Todd Downing, who I watched when he was with

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Speaker 1: the Raiders in two thousand seventeen. He was atrocious, one

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Speaker 1: of the worst offensive coordinators I've ever seen. I do

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Speaker 1: think once you get to a point in life. You know,

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Speaker 1: maybe pass like in your early twenties. You can be

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Speaker 1: taught things as you age, but there are instincts that

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Speaker 1: come right. Your ability to talk to girls, your ability

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Speaker 1: to close a deal, your ability to interact with other

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Speaker 1: people as a football coach, your ability your instincts to

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Speaker 1: understand different play calls in a game. Now, you can

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Speaker 1: improve on that, but you either once you get to

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Speaker 1: a certain point point early on in your career as

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Speaker 1: a human being, whatever you're doing, the the instincts, you

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Speaker 1: either got him or you don't. And we all know

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Speaker 1: those people. Some people are just like awkward or weird.

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Speaker 1: They just don't get it in a business setting, in

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Speaker 1: a personal setting. In a football setting, you're like, God,

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Speaker 1: this guy is a little over his head, or God,

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Speaker 1: this guy is just you know, out of the loop here.

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Speaker 1: This guy doesn't have a feel for the room. Todd

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Speaker 1: Downing has no feel for calling offensive place, absolutely none.

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Speaker 1: And you either have instincts as a play call or

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Speaker 1: you don't. There's an ebb and flow to the play calls,

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Speaker 1: and watching that game against the Cardinals, Todd Downing looks

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Speaker 1: exactly like he did several years ago. It's like, hey, man,

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Speaker 1: Chandler Jones. He's one of the best courter or the

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Speaker 1: best pass rushers in the league. Your guy right now

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Speaker 1: coming off in a a c L can't block them. You

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Speaker 1: need help. You can't run these play action boots towards

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Speaker 1: It's not gonna work, my man, change it up. Arthur Smith.

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Speaker 1: Is he gonna be a good head coach? I got

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Speaker 1: no clue. Being a core nator and being a head

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Speaker 1: coach are two completely different things. But he was a

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Speaker 1: great play caller. His instincts for calling plays were elite.

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Speaker 1: Just like you watch McVeigh, you watch Sean Payton, you

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Speaker 1: watch Kyle. When those guys are on, it's like God,

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Speaker 1: they just have a feel for it. Todd Downing has

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Speaker 1: no feel for it. Sure he's being paid seven figures

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Speaker 1: by the Titans. He's stealing, absolutely stealing, just like he

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Speaker 1: was several years ago with the Raiders, because he's completely

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Speaker 1: over his head. I don't see how this gets better.

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Speaker 1: They have a ton of talent. You already got Rabel

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Speaker 1: calling out Julio Jones as a head coach and as

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Speaker 1: a GM. I think we put so much emphasis and

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Speaker 1: I hammered this home all the time on the draft,

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Speaker 1: on the draft on the draft. There is so much

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Speaker 1: more to the job than the draft. If I'm a

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Speaker 1: head coach, there's a draft, there's free agency, there's developing

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Speaker 1: my practice squad. But one of the most important jobs

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Speaker 1: that we never talk about or hiring coaches. I mean

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Speaker 1: we do. It's really bad, but we don't spend that

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Speaker 1: much time, like who are you putting on your staff?

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Speaker 1: Nick Saban consistently has elite staffs. Right now? Is offensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator is Bill O'Brien. I know everyone on Twitter eating

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Speaker 1: Cheetos on their couch thinks Bill O'Brien's the village idiot.

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Speaker 1: He won the the a f C South four times

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Speaker 1: in six years that happened, and won multiple playoff games.

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Speaker 1: So relative to most offensive coordinators in college football, they

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Speaker 1: can't hold his jock. That's who his offensive coordinator is.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, his offensive line coach. Doug Moron was the

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Speaker 1: head coach of the Jags who was in the a

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Speaker 1: f C Championship game like three years ago. That's his

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Speaker 1: old line coach. So when Arthur Smith leaves and you

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Speaker 1: go to Todd Downing and I like Mike Vrabel, but

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Speaker 1: it was probably the easy thing to do. He was

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Speaker 1: on staff continuity. Continuity isn't always the right thing if

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Speaker 1: the guy's not meant for the job. And I just

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Speaker 1: think Todd Downing, I don't think we do enough. We

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Speaker 1: can be critical of players, but being a player's heart,

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Speaker 1: it is if you make mental errors and just do

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Speaker 1: stupid shit, no problem being critical. And we're always gonna

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Speaker 1: be critical of the quarterbacks even though we all agree

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Speaker 1: it's no one else small percentage of humans can do it.

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Speaker 1: But I do think a lot of people think they

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Speaker 1: can coach football, and a lot of people now get

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Speaker 1: the opportunities, the amount of money that's involved, I think

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Speaker 1: we get a group of guys and I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: Todd Downing is in the profession for money, but I

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Speaker 1: do think we have a lot of coaches in the profession.

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Speaker 1: Money and fame comes with it now more than ever,

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Speaker 1: and you're getting guys that aren't like Belichick and Andy

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Speaker 1: Reid and Pete Carroll like I met, their first paychecks

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Speaker 1: were like five thousand dollars a year, like. They didn't

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Speaker 1: get in this for the glitz and the glamour, and

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Speaker 1: they got into it for the right reasons and then

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Speaker 1: it turns out they were good. We got a lot

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Speaker 1: of people in it for the wrong reasons, and also

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Speaker 1: they just aren't good, Like this guy is just terrible

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Speaker 1: at his job. So it's just something to keep an

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Speaker 1: eye on for sure. Okay, let's dive into one of

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Speaker 1: the more intriguing matchups that took place Sunday afternoon, and

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Speaker 1: I think how it's gonna play out the rest of

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Speaker 1: the season, And that was Mac Jones verse two. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Belichick verse Flora's. Obviously Belichick top Flora's everything. He knows,

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Speaker 1: he worked for him basically his entire NFL career. Became

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Speaker 1: head coach because of what he did under Belichick. And

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Speaker 1: there was an article I read a while back that

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Speaker 1: Belichick the last several years when Flores was there, would

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Speaker 1: take his coordinators in the off season and kind of

642
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: teach him the inner workings of the NFL, which I

643
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: can only imagine being a fly on the wall in

644
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: that meeting and probably was pretty incredible. And Flores has

645
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: done a really, really good job in Miami. They have

646
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: a very solid team. I actually think their team has

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00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: a lot of parallels to New England. They can run

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00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: the ball, uh, they have a really good defense. They're

649
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: just very fundamentally sound, they're good on special teams. Waddle

650
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: now kind of is an addition to that team that

651
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: is something they haven't had for a while. But I

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00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: think the biggest thing that you saw on Sunday was

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00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: I would take mac Jones over to UH. I would

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Speaker 1: take for the next sixteen weeks and really moving forward,

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Speaker 1: I think Mac Jones will be a better pro than

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Speaker 1: two UH and I think that's gonna be the difference

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Speaker 1: in these two teams there. I mean it was the

658
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: final score was seventeen and sixteen, and the Patriots were

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00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: driving towards the end of the game and Damian Harris fumbled.

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00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,760
Speaker 1: It was basically the game. If they score on that Drivehou,

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00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: if they kick a field goal, the games over, the

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00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: Patriots would have won. Now it's an impressive win for Miami,

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Speaker 1: but the problem is gonna be for Miami They're really

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Speaker 1: gonna struggle to move the ball. They're gonna be very,

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Speaker 1: very dependent on Jalen Waddle, who looks like a very

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00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:44,280
Speaker 1: dynamic playmaker. Impressive player. I mean he's a baller absolute studies.

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Speaker 1: Play speed is really fast. I mean he he was

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00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: moving faster than every guy on the field. But other

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00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: than that like, I just don't. I don't look at

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Speaker 1: too and think playmaker. Now mac Jones is like a

671
00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,479
Speaker 1: more athletic Kirk Cousins, but he's already like what Kirk

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Speaker 1: Cousins became the last couple of years. Right now, he's

673
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: pretty solid and like we said, coming into uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: into the draft process, like he was the most ready

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Speaker 1: made beside Trevor Lawrence. He Now, how much better can

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00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: he get? I don't know. But the one thing New

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00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: England does have and he should only improve. I think

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00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: they fumbled it they lost multiple fumbles. Is they have

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00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: much better skill guys this year. Kendrick Borne from the

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00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: Niners looked pretty good. He's a solid player, like he

681
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: was the third wide receiver on a super Bowl team.

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00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: The running backs are good, they got multiple tight ends.

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00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 1: Gilmore of the their star Quarner is not even around.

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Speaker 1: That team is gonna get better as the season goes on.

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Speaker 1: That's a Belichick special that always happens. Why because he's

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Speaker 1: an only coach. But like if the quarterback can just

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Speaker 1: get more and more comfortable, which he should, the more

688
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: reps and more seasoning he gets. I like the Patriots

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00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: big picture over Miami and let's face it, like Miami's

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00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: main issue, which was the main issue last year, which

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00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: was the main issue this offseason, which is a question

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Speaker 1: mark right now, is their quarterback. There's a reason a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago the head coach had to get

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Speaker 1: in front of the room and say, listen to A,

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Speaker 1: we are not trading for a guy who is under

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Speaker 1: investigation from the FEDS. You're our guy. That's usually not

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00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 1: a good sign, because, let's face it, I watched the

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Speaker 1: Washington Charger game. Justin Herbert is in a different universe

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Speaker 1: than to Ah. Like, the argument's over, it's dead. There

700
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Speaker 1: is no chance on God's green Earth that to A

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Speaker 1: will ever even be remotely close to as good as

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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert. And let's go to that game for a second.

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Speaker 1: Watching Justin Herbert, his box score he was which is

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Speaker 1: solid on the road against you know, one of the

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00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: best defense in the league, doesn't even do what I

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00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: witnessed justice to me. What really stands out and this

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Speaker 1: is what too does not I think is great at

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00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 1: There's a calmness to Herbert's game. There is just I'm

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Speaker 1: under control, Like I've been in this league for eight

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Speaker 1: to ten years, yet He's only a second in year

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00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: player now. I think when you really dive into Herbert,

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00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 1: he was a four year starter at Organ. The other

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Speaker 1: thing that jumps out he is a massive human being.

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Speaker 1: So when you see him on the field, you go,

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Speaker 1: it's like what young Roethlisberger used to look like. He

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Speaker 1: can move. He has an absolute howitzer, but he is

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Speaker 1: a pocket quarterback, and his calmness within the pocket is

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Speaker 1: ultimately what every head coach is looking for because it

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00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 1: is inevitable, even if you have the best offensive line

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00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: in the league, you're gonna get pressure, You're gonna they're

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00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: gonna send blitz is. You're gonna have to work within

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00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: that little five yard radius of the pocket and right

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Speaker 1: outside of it. And he already looks like a season vet.

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Speaker 1: Like there is Mahomes, who of the quarterbacks like under

725
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: thirty is clearly the top. We talked about it on

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00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: Monday's podcast. He is just one of the all time

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00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,439
Speaker 1: great entertainers in the league. Let alone his talent, which

728
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: is abtolutely immense, and his just ability to to just

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Speaker 1: play the game. I would say the mixture of the

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Speaker 1: right way, the understanding of what the coaches want, and

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Speaker 1: then in a way that makes the fans just jaw

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Speaker 1: drop there. There is no one quite like Mahomes. But

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Speaker 1: but to me, a separating factor with him and every

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Speaker 1: great quarterback ever is there's a calmness like they don't

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Speaker 1: freak out right away. And I'm not talking about just

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Speaker 1: in the pocket eye. There's just a frenetic nature to

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Speaker 1: certain players. Whether it's I don't think it's necessarily scared.

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Speaker 1: I just think you're just certain guys are just completely

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Speaker 1: under control, regardless how many blitzing linebackers, how many defensive

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Speaker 1: ends that look like Myles Garrett or the Bosa brothers

741
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: are coming at you. I don't blame anyone for being

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00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: jittery in the pocket. Most every single h been listening

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Speaker 1: to this, including myself. If you put us in a

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Speaker 1: pocket with those human beings chasing us, trying to throw

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Speaker 1: us into the ground, even though I mean the amount

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Speaker 1: of flags they throw, I am all for protecting the quarterback.

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00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: This league is only as strong as his quarterback, and

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00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 1: the league has never been stronger, and the young quarterbacks

749
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: are very, very talented, But holy shit, like not every

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Speaker 1: time that a defender hits the quarterback is the flag

751
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: we we we gotta have a little leeway here, like

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00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: if you just tackle the quarterback to the ground, it

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00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 1: should not be a flag, and then that defender should

754
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: not be scared for getting another flag for screaming at you,

755
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: calling you an idiot. Now, sometimes I can probably be

756
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: a little harsh on the referees, the Zebras. Uh, it's

757
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 1: a hard job. I will be the first to admit it.

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00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: It is very, very difficult. And they are also being

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00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: told as we've learned anything all those years in the

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00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: NBA with David Stern. Uh, he dictates and he pressures

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00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: the Zebras. I'm pretty sure the same thing happens in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, and I get it. They are being hammered

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00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: home by the league office to call those flags when

764
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: guys hit the quarterback. But I'm sorry, not every hit

765
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Speaker 1: on the quarterback is some violent, malicious, I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: kill you move. They need to stop throwing these flags

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00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: for unnecessary roughness, for tackling the quarterback too hard, whatever

768
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 1: the hell they call it. It's kind of embarrassing after

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00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: a while, like, just let some of these guys play. Ultimately,

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, this is the National

771
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: Football League, This is football, guys, get tackled the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't wear red jersey in the games, but what

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Speaker 1: makes great quarterbacks? Even now that it's when we talked

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Speaker 1: about this, I think last week with Aaron Rodgers and

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady, you know, you know, talking a little mess

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Speaker 1: about the modern day rules and listen, they have, um,

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00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: you know, a good understanding of what things used to

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00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: be like because that was the era in which they

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00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 1: came into the league. Especially Tom Right came in when

780
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: plus years ago, Aaron came in sixteen, seventeen plus years ago,

781
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 1: so they understand how violent the game used to be.

782
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 1: So there is to me it's kind of it becomes

783
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: an eight and just instinctual after a certain while. I

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00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: do think it's learned, you know, in college and then

785
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: maybe early on in the pros. But after a while,

786
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: certain guys don't even think about it. And when I

787
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 1: watched Justin Herbert, his physical attributes are all pluses that

788
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: they're elite like that, they are everything a scout, a

789
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: general manager, a coach would look for. But a lot

790
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 1: of guys we've seen that come into the NFL have

791
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: those gifts right. They're big, they can run, they can

792
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: throw the ball hard. His accuracy, his touch I can't

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Speaker 1: even I didn't chart the game. Um you know I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't work for the Churchers. No one's paying me

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00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: to chart passes. But I swear to god, it felt

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Speaker 1: like five to eight passes were dropped. I mean, he's

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00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: hitting guys in the hands consistently, and he made multiple

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Speaker 1: big plays in the fourth core or a touchdown to

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00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 1: Mike Williams, another big first down to Keenan Allen. They

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Speaker 1: were just like, damn, this guy is the real deal.

801
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,479
Speaker 1: And I know everyone the football team who I saw

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00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: within the last couple of weeks they put out they

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00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: they've kind of taken down the list to six seven names,

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00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: and football team is one of them. Just keep the

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00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: name football team, Like I would just roll with the

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Speaker 1: Washington football team. That's our name, Like why we're the

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00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 1: Washington football team? With the w I think it's a

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00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 1: good look. Just go with that. The Washington Presidents that's terrible,

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00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:38,240
Speaker 1: Washington Admirals, that's awful. Red Hogs not awful. But just

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Speaker 1: roll with the football team. I think it's fine. And honestly,

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Speaker 1: the longer they go with this, I think it shows

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Speaker 1: you that's probably where they're leaning is just rolling with

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Speaker 1: the w and just call it the football team. Fitzpatrick.

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Speaker 1: I've said over and over that if you look at

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Speaker 1: his football reference, he's a great story. I played golf

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Speaker 1: last year. I was just laying by myself, girl I

817
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: was dating in kind of the central coast Monterey area.

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00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: I was playing golf, went out early and I got

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00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: paired with like three dudes and they were I'm thirty six.

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00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: I think they were a couple of years older than me.

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Speaker 1: And you know, the first couple of holes, we don't

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Speaker 1: know anyone, and you're kind of like resort type golf

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Speaker 1: or you know, somewhere, and they were from out of

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Speaker 1: town as well. You know, it takes you a couple

825
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: while a couple holes to really start talking with each other,

826
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Speaker 1: get a couple of cocktails, you start bullshit, start talking.

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Speaker 1: You just naturally asked what I do, asked what they

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Speaker 1: do where they're from. One dude played running back at

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Speaker 1: Harvard and right when Ryan Fitzpatrick was there, so obviously

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00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: a couple of football guys in the same golf group.

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Speaker 1: We became buddies. We start talking the rest of the round,

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Speaker 1: and I asked him, did you did anyone think when

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Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick was at Harvard he would go on to

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Speaker 1: be a fifteen six year pro. He said, of course,

835
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Speaker 1: not no one thought he would get drafted, let alone

836
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 1: he's still be in the league all these years later.

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Speaker 1: And he's an incredible story. And if you've heard him interviewed,

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00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: if you followed his career, he's an easy guy to

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Speaker 1: root for, right. I think if Ryan Fitzpatrick lived in

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Speaker 1: our community, if we were all whoever's listening to this

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Speaker 1: were neighbors with them, or we had friends of a

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00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: friends that were, you know, buddies with them, and we

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00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 1: were around him, we would be huge Ryan Fitzpatrick fans.

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Speaker 1: We would like the guy. But I think he's a

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00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: little overrated as a football player. And when you look

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00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: at his football reference page, he throws a lot of interceptions.

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Speaker 1: So this notion that the football team that when they

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Speaker 1: added Ryan Fitzpatrick, they were just gonna be good, like

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00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: just some consistent, like double digit win team, I think

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00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: was a little overhyped. Like if I gave the football team,

851
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: you know, justin Herbert, Yeah, they would win twelve games.

852
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: I give him Ryan Fitzpatrick, they might win nine. They

853
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: could win in They also could win seven, so he

854
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 1: goes down with the hip injury. Not ideal. I honestly

855
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: felt Heineke came into the game like he's pretty talented,

856
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: he can run around, he's got a big arm. I

857
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 1: was pretty impressed. I also think it's we've been hammering

858
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 1: this home. It's never been easier to play quarterback, especially

859
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: for guys that can move. Uh, These modern day offensive coordinators,

860
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: you know, can institute r p O s. They just

861
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 1: have the ability to adapt offenses, probably easier than ever before.

862
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 1: A lot of guys now have the college NFL pedigree right.

863
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,959
Speaker 1: A lot of offensive coordinators in the pros have spent

864
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: some time in college and just utilize the college game

865
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: to work schemes. So whatever works for Heineke. We saw

866
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 1: him flash a little bit in the playoff game. Like

867
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 1: I'm not just saying this. I was kind of impressed

868
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: against the Chargers given a circumstances that they had to

869
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: come in out of nowhere. So I wouldn't be that

870
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: down in the dumps if I was a football team.

871
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: But I'd also think you guys got a front row seat,

872
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: like that's what a young franchise quarterback looks like. And

873
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: I don't blame you. You got you know, Chase Young,

874
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 1: who's probably gonna be a fantastic hundred million dollar pass rusher.

875
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 1: He has an elite talent. But you did pass on

876
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,720
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert. Now it's easy to play Monday morning quarterback.

877
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: No one thought you should take Justin Herbert, you know

878
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,280
Speaker 1: at the time. But us on the outside, the media,

879
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: we're not paid to make those decisions, Like that's on

880
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: you guys. Like ultimately, it's like, well, Miami, they took

881
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: Tah who wouldn't have everyone would have. It's it's not

882
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: their job to be everybody. This isn't their job to

883
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: get a pluses on Twitter from fans sitting on their

884
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: couch eating fucking cheetos. It's their job to pick the

885
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 1: right player. That's what makes this difficult. It makes it hard,

886
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 1: you know, Like ultimately, Denver, who Teddy played well, but

887
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: the Giants suck. The Giants. Daniel Jones is not a

888
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 1: good football player. The Denver Bronco roster is excellent, and

889
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 1: Patrick's certain he's probably gonna be a pro bowler at

890
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: one point in time in his career. But they better

891
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: pray to God. The Justin Fields is not a baller. That.

892
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: I know that. I think he'll become because they passed

893
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: on him, and I don't think they even thought twice

894
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: about doing it. And listen, Teddy looked good against the Giants.

895
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are gonna look good

896
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: against giants. I don't think the Giants are any good.

897
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: Joe Judge can make coaches run around the field new

898
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 1: push ups, and listen. I mean, I I don't know.

899
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: I I'm not I'm not gonna fully blame him because

900
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: his quarterback sucks and he had nothing to do with that.

901
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: And if your quarterback's bad in two thousand one, more

902
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: than ever, you could get away with it. Twenty years ago.

903
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: You get away with it. Thirty years ago, you get

904
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: away with it in college, hell a decade ago. In

905
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 1: modern day football, if your quarterback is not good, you

906
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 1: will not win games. It's just that simple. Look at

907
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: Nick Saban is a great example. They have the most

908
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: talent in the sport. And even he realized, Yeah, we

909
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: need to start getting NFL quarterbacks. It's not gonna cut

910
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: it getting just these fringe scrubs. We need to get

911
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: first round picks. They got first round picks that never

912
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 1: looked back. They've gone to a completely different level. I

913
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 1: think we all can admit that they were really good

914
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 1: the first half of his of his dominant run in decade,

915
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: But since they started getting NFL quarterbacks, it's been a rap.

916
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 1: It's been over look at at Ogeron can't coach his

917
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: way out of a wet paper back. Yet they gave

918
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: him Joe Burrow and he went undefeated, won the National

919
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 1: championship pretty easily, like ad one of the greatest college

920
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: teams in uh in the history of the sport. So

921
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: if you're Washington, that's all you should be thinking about

922
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,399
Speaker 1: is how do we get a legit starting quarterback. Now

923
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 1: it's very, very difficult to get guys like Justin Herbert

924
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,479
Speaker 1: typically got a draft in the top, you know, top five.

925
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: We saw the Niners. They made a pretty bold move,

926
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: went from twelve to three, and we'll see how that

927
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: plays out. You know, it's gonna be hard to judge

928
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: this year because I think Jimmy is gonna play a lot,

929
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: But you know, I will be able to judge it

930
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: in four or five years. We're a long way away

931
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 1: from being able to like get a full grasp of

932
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: was it worth it or not? But they gave up

933
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 1: a lot and they went from twelve to three. And

934
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: Washington football team probably won't be drafting, you know. I'd

935
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: say the earliest like fifteen. So it's very very expensive

936
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: to get up. But and I don't know, just watching

937
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,280
Speaker 1: college football this year, I don't see many Justin Herbert's

938
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: and Trey Lances and Justin Field. It's in the in

939
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 1: the group, in the crop. You know it's not but

940
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 1: when the when the crop is there, you gotta pull

941
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,399
Speaker 1: the trigger and you gotta get your guy. And you know, listen,

942
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 1: sometimes you're gonna miss. But I will never ever fault

943
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 1: the team for going all in. Listen. Ryan Pace whiffed

944
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,879
Speaker 1: on Mitch, but at least he had conviction and made

945
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: the move. He just drafted the wrong guy. He should

946
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 1: have taken one of the other two. But he remember

947
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,280
Speaker 1: he was picking at three, and he moved up to two,

948
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: gave up. But I think his third and his fourth

949
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 1: round pick again picked the wrong guy. Mr Whiskey over

950
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: Watson and mahomes Hell Watson. I mean, what a bizarre

951
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 1: situation that is, Like Deshawna, You're just not gonna play

952
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 1: aff season? Are to Texans? Are you just now they're

953
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 1: one and oh they're in first place. They're just gonna

954
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: make him inactive every game. It's just it's just very,

955
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: very weird, and uh yeah, I don't I don't see

956
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: that changing anytime soon. Okay, let's just go around the league.

957
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,320
Speaker 1: I haven't had a chance to watch every game, and

958
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 1: let's be real, like, I'm not watching the Texas and

959
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: Jack's refuse too terrible of a game, but pretty impressive

960
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: ass kicking by the Houston Texans the Jags. A lot

961
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: of stories flying around this was inevitable if it didn't

962
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: go well for urban Meyer. And let's face it, it's

963
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 1: not only not only not going well, they're kind of

964
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:21,240
Speaker 1: an embarrassment. He is immediately being talked about a week

965
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: into the season. Is he going to be the next

966
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 1: USC coach? Would USC go hire him from Jacksonville? Would

967
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: Jacksonville punt on this experiment that isn't gonna go well?

968
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: The Texans are gonna try to lose games. Situation with

969
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 1: the Shawan they're cool with just sucking urban Meyer. It's

970
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:43,479
Speaker 1: a train wreck. It's an absolute dumpster fire. Right now.

971
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 1: Stories are gonna continue to come out fast and furious

972
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: about the internal workings There was a story this weekend

973
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: about Jason from Jason lacking Forth that, let's face it,

974
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 1: you gotta take some times with a grain assault some

975
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: of the stuff that comes from him. But he's also

976
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,280
Speaker 1: been right on a lot and some of the coaches

977
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 1: feel that urban Meyer is angry all the time. He

978
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: can't handle this. He couldn't handle losing in the preseason, like,

979
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:10,240
Speaker 1: let's face it, drip drip, drip drip, Like there's something there,

980
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: this is not going well. Story that you know I

981
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: saw yesterday as Trevor Lawrence had never lost the game

982
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: in high school. He had never lost a regular season

983
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: game in college. If you can't beat the Texans, who

984
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: the hell are you gonna beat? What would you guys

985
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: say over under on their wins right now? If I

986
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 1: said three and a half, would you take the over?

987
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: Because I wouldn't. They got sixty more games, I'd say

988
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,399
Speaker 1: in that sixteen game stretch, they probably go like three

989
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: and thirteen. You get a win here, win there, but

990
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: not many. It could be a long year for Trevor Lawrence.

991
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 1: And is it crazy to think that urban Meyer quits

992
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 1: this job this year? He's miserable. I don't feel like

993
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 1: I think he wanted to test his toes in the

994
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: water because he'd seen so many of his brethren, right,

995
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 1: Nick Saban do it, Chip Kelly did it, Pete Arrol,

996
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: Jim Harball, like all the elite college coaches got all

997
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: over the years have done it. It felt like, I

998
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 1: don't know if he was jealous bored. Hard to say,

999
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: but you could also justify if you were going to

1000
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: leave a job, like if you left the cowboy job

1001
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 1: or the steeler job for USC, we would never take

1002
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,439
Speaker 1: you seriously again, Like you you don't leave the big

1003
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: boy jobs for a college job. Nick Saban did it

1004
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 1: once upon a time, but I'd say Miami, like, we

1005
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: don't really take that franchise that seriously though it's become

1006
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: much more of a high level franchise since the Jags,

1007
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 1: like they feel like the minor leagues. They really do.

1008
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 1: So if he were to leave for the USC job,

1009
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying he will, he maybe he just

1010
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 1: quits and just doesn't want to coach anymore. He's done

1011
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: that before too. He just taps out and then he

1012
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 1: says he's got hard issues, which I'm sure he does.

1013
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: But like Nick Saban and Bill Belichick, they never seem

1014
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 1: to have any issues, right, I mean, do they just

1015
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: not get stressed out? Maybe they don't. Some people don't,

1016
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: you know, any read just plows along Sean Payton, Pie Carroll,

1017
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 1: I mean urbans like, oh my heart. Maybe is, but

1018
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: it feels like you always didn't come back, you always

1019
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 1: get healthy. I don't know. I just got that guy

1020
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: red flagged. I would not want that guy coaching my

1021
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 1: NFL team by any means. The Jets have a million

1022
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 1: injuries already. I did not watch much of that game

1023
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:16,760
Speaker 1: besides when it came on on the red Zone channel,

1024
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: and it clearly didn't come on the red Zone channel

1025
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: very often. I played Sam Donald in my draft Kings

1026
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: league that did not work out very well. Uh he

1027
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: is just you know, he's a work in progress. But

1028
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: the Jets are really really bad. And they had a

1029
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: million injuries, a ton of injuries. I mean, their star

1030
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: left tackle is out now for who knows how long,

1031
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: with you know, a torn m c L. I think

1032
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,280
Speaker 1: I saw today. They've already lost their best pass rusher.

1033
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 1: It's gonna be tough. This this is going to be

1034
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: a long season. Unlike Urban, though, I do think you

1035
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: can go Robert Sale Joe Douglas, NFL people I want

1036
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:56,839
Speaker 1: to believe in them. I think it's much easier in

1037
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 1: any walk of life, in any business, in any relationship

1038
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: when you truly believe in the person that you're either

1039
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 1: working for, you know, dating partnered with in business, to

1040
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 1: go through shitty stretches in life, because you know what,

1041
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 1: we all go through rough stretches, every single one of us.

1042
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:19,240
Speaker 1: Whether it's losing our business, fired from a job, losing

1043
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: a parent. I mean, all those things have happened to me.

1044
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 1: I'm not even forty like, and you just you go

1045
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: through it. And one thing you learn after you go

1046
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: through a couple of tough things, like the sun comes

1047
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: up the next day, if things move on. It's tough,

1048
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: but that's just the way the world works. And when

1049
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,720
Speaker 1: times feel like they're at their lowest, at their worst,

1050
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: we've all been there. Every single one of us have

1051
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: had a rough stretch in life. And once you go

1052
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 1: through it once or even twice, you realize, like, I

1053
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,280
Speaker 1: can get through this. But when you have people around

1054
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: you who uplift you, who you believe in, it is

1055
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 1: so much easier to get through that than when you

1056
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,720
Speaker 1: go through a tough time and you hate the person

1057
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 1: you're working for, or you don't believe in the person

1058
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 1: you're working for. You're like, this is miserable, this is

1059
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 1: gonna suck. I do think it's easy to look at

1060
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 1: Robert Sala and look at Joe Douglas and going I

1061
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,439
Speaker 1: believe in these guys. That doesn't mean it's gonna work.

1062
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean when you make it out of the

1063
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 1: sewer infested pipeline, Andy do frame style that you're gonna

1064
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: end up one day on a beach. You might not,

1065
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: it may fail, But I do think big picture, it's

1066
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: easier to see like a three or four year runway

1067
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 1: with these guys and just give them the belief and

1068
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 1: be all in. Where with urban Meyer, like does he

1069
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,760
Speaker 1: even want to be here? At least I know Robert

1070
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: Sala and Joe Douglas they're all in. So it's it's

1071
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:42,240
Speaker 1: gonna be a long year for the Jets. Texans somehow

1072
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: in first place, right, the Colts lost, Tennessee lost, and uh,

1073
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: who else is ind that division? Colts Tennessee. Oh yeah,

1074
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,720
Speaker 1: they beat the Jacks, so they're in first place. Pretty

1075
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 1: crazy for all the ship we all talked, myself included

1076
00:55:56,080 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 1: about Easterby and Cassario there want to know. Now, maybe

1077
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 1: short lived. I think the Colts end up winning that division,

1078
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 1: but there want to know. You gotta you gotta give

1079
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 1: them them their flowers. As the kids would say, Mike

1080
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,399
Speaker 1: Zimmer has got a problem. I think Mike Zimmer could

1081
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: get fired before the season ends. Something's just off. It

1082
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:19,479
Speaker 1: just is. They had a great run. Their defense was excellent. Uh,

1083
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 1: their run game was awesome for several years once they

1084
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,760
Speaker 1: had digs and feeling feeling still a stud. But something's

1085
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 1: just off. Like you lose a Cincinnati in Cincinnati with

1086
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 1: a quarterback coming off a devastating knee injury, with against

1087
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: a wide receiver that hasn't caught, you know, couldn't catch

1088
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 1: Covid if he tried. I mean, that's that's how bad

1089
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 1: his hands were. Couldn't catch. Then he he has a

1090
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 1: hundred yards receiving against you. Joe Burrow slices and dices you.

1091
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 1: You lose at Cincinnati, That is a terrible loss. That

1092
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 1: is an awful loss. Like I've been saying over and over,

1093
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 1: I thought Minnesota could be like a fringe playoff team.

1094
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 1: I thought if their defense a little bit better, I

1095
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: thought they compete to win ten games. I can't take

1096
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 1: you seriously. I'm not trying to. I get this week

1097
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: one over reactions like I'm sorry you lost the fucking Bengals.

1098
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: I saw it with my own eyes. You lost to

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00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 1: the Bengals in overtime. I don't take you seriously. I

1100
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 1: no longer take the Viking seriously, like the Vikings and

1101
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: the and the Bears and the Lions. Like obviously the

1102
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: Lions are the worst of that group. I'm giving the

1103
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: Packers a little bit of a pass. They have several

1104
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: years now under the floor of proving that they were good.

1105
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: I talked about it on the Monday podcast, like bad week,

1106
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: I'm an awful, embarrassing week. But I'm gonna chalk it

1107
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,479
Speaker 1: up to a one and done situation more than something

1108
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: that they're gonna have a devastating season. Also because look

1109
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 1: at their division. I mean, the Bear situation is pretty dire,

1110
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton and that offensive line is a joke. Uh,

1111
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 1: the Vikings just can't really win games for some reason,

1112
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: and the Lions are just not very good football team.

1113
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 1: So I guess you gotta give the Bengals some of

1114
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,439
Speaker 1: their flowers, right, Joe Burrow coming back making some place.

1115
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 1: Jamaar Chase, I mean he took I would say of

1116
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 1: all the young, uh hot shot type players, the guys

1117
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: that we talk a lot about rookies this last month,

1118
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 1: no one took more arrows than Jamaar Chase. He couldn't

1119
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 1: catch anything. People were acting like he was a bust uh.

1120
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: And then to come out in your first game. I

1121
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 1: think he had five catches, a hundred yards, a fifty

1122
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: yard touchdown on a deep go route. Like that's that's

1123
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 1: a good start. That is a very, very, I would say,

1124
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: comforting start if you're a Bengal fan, if you're a

1125
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: Bengal coach, anyone around that organization, like it's like, oh

1126
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 1: thank god. Same thing with Piney Sewell. Piney Seuil was

1127
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 1: getting crushed all camp long. It's hard to play right

1128
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 1: tackle when you're a lifetime left tackle. Well, what happened?

1129
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 1: They had an injury? They moved into the left tackle,

1130
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 1: and what did you do? He looked fine, he's a

1131
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 1: left tackle. You can't just like, oh, just he's a

1132
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 1: left tackle, let's move him to right guard. Like that

1133
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 1: stuns hard. I watched pine Sewell. He's a big, powerful man.

1134
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: When Nick Bosa tried to run him over. He could

1135
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:56,919
Speaker 1: handle it. Then every once in a while he get

1136
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: beat with speed. Yeah there, He's never gone against the

1137
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 1: eat in which you will see on a weekly basis

1138
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 1: in the NFL. But that's what a you know, a

1139
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 1: top ten left tackle looks like you got one. I

1140
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 1: take the guy on my team. Same thing with Jamaar Chase. Like,

1141
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 1: is the Vikings defensive backfield very good? No, but it's

1142
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 1: a bad defensive backfield. You should make plays if you're

1143
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 1: a top I pick. What did he do? He made plays?

1144
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: Had tipped him big win for the Bengals. Breaking news

1145
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 1: as I'm recording this part, uh recording this a little

1146
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 1: bit before the Monday game, a little inside the podcast.

1147
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 1: But Clay Hilton was fired and the USC job is open.

1148
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: I'm a big believer, Like I guess we'll get in

1149
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 1: more as the year goes on. The candidates, all the

1150
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: names are out there. My theory, in my philosophy when

1151
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 1: it comes to college coaches, I think regions matter. I

1152
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 1: think where you're from matters. That's why when you hear

1153
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 1: Jimbo or Dabo or Kirby like they belong in the South,

1154
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 1: listen to the way they talk. Listen to the way

1155
00:59:56,840 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 1: they talk about God. That matters down there. It's impactful

1156
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: in that region. If you came to USC as you know,

1157
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 1: as one of those guys and started talking about Jesus

1158
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 1: and God, it wouldn't resonate with us as much. But

1159
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 1: it also is much more difficult to coach out on

1160
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 1: the West Coast when you're not from the West Coast.

1161
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 1: It's why most of the guys, at least in my

1162
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 1: adult life, Jim Harba went to high school out here.

1163
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll's from California, Jeff Tedford's from California. Mike Bellotti

1164
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 1: was from California. Chris Peterson was from California. So those

1165
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 1: guys know the ethos of the way we think. Just

1166
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 1: like if you're gonna go coach in the Big Ten,

1167
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:39,919
Speaker 1: having some feel for that region matters, And I think

1168
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 1: it's important in college sports. It is not important in

1169
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 1: the NFL, even though I do think people gravitate toward, um,

1170
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 1: you know where they grew up, right, Belichick, Northeast guy,

1171
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 1: feels very at home, right. But Andy Reid had a

1172
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 1: ton of success in Philadelphia. He's from California, right, you know,

1173
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: he's in Kansas City. If you can coach where Sean

1174
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 1: McVeigh from. I don't know. He went to Miami, Ohio.

1175
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 1: I think he grew up. I don't even know. It

1176
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. He lives in l A. He looks like

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01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 1: l A. It works NFL Pro sports, like it's about

1178
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 1: winning and losing in college, there is more that comes

1179
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 1: along with that. So if you're gonna coach at USC,

1180
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 1: I don't think you have to be from California, but

1181
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 1: you do have to have some California tendencies. L A

1182
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 1: is just a different world from Ohio or Cincinnati, or

1183
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 1: New York or Florida or even Texas. And I see

1184
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 1: some of these I see like Sark Sark. We're talking

1185
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 1: about Stark coming back to SC he was escorted out

1186
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 1: of the building for drinking. Like that happened. He saw

1187
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 1: that he's been the head coach at USC. He can't

1188
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 1: even coach in Texas. He's got his asking by Arkansas.

1189
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 1: He's not on the shortlist. Lane. I I think I

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01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 1: would consider, you know, p J. Fleck, Luke Fickle, Uh,

1191
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 1: Chris Peterson, Like it's there are some you know, high

1192
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 1: level names, but I do think where you're from experience

1193
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 1: out West, you coach in the conference, that those would

1194
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 1: be things that would matter to me. And obviously, at

1195
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 1: the end of the day, you have to be able

1196
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 1: good coach. So being a good coach first and foremost,

1197
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 1: and then I need you to check some of the

1198
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 1: other boxes because where you're from in college, in recruiting,

1199
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Speaker 1: when the majority of your recruits at least a high

1200
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 1: percentage of them are gonna come from California, as they should,

1201
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 1: then when you're killing it like Pete Carroll started to do,

1202
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 1: then you pluck the best players. You know, you go

1203
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 1: to New Jersey, you go to Ohio, you go to Florida,

1204
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 1: you go to Texas. Those are one offs. The majority

1205
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 1: of your roster it's coming from SoCal. Think about some

1206
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 1: of the best players under Pete Carroll's tenure with s C.

1207
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 1: The most famous players Matt Line are l a Guy,

1208
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 1: Reggie Bush, San Diego, Mark Sanchez, l a guy like

1209
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 1: you can get a large percentage of your studs from

1210
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 1: southern California. And then you know, the the extra pieces,

1211
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 1: and some of those extra pieces turned into like stars,

1212
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 1: can come from other parts of the country. It shouldn't

1213
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 1: be complicated in SC. You know, I saw Michael Embardi

1214
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 1: say it's it's better than two thirds of the NFL.

1215
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 1: I wouldn't go that far, but it is in theory

1216
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 1: an excellent football job. Okay, Middlecoff mail bag, it's pretty easy.

1217
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 1: You just go to at John Middlecoff is my Instagram.

1218
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 1: You slide up into those d m s and you

1219
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 1: get your question answered here on the podcast. That's how

1220
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 1: we interact with the people, because ultimately this is the

1221
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 1: people show. The show is for you and for me

1222
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 1: kind of just to talk, but it's really for you. Joshua,

1223
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 1: is it too early to tell? I know it's too

1224
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 1: early to tell, But do you have any favorites for

1225
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 1: m v P or has it changed since after watching

1226
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 1: the week once performance. Well, Matt Stafford was a guy

1227
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 1: that I definitely had circled to keep an eye on. Uh,

1228
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 1: he had a good start. I'd say Russell Wilson is

1229
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 1: a guy that's always gonna be in the mix. It's

1230
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 1: just gonna be about him sustaining it. But you could

1231
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 1: argue Russell Wilson is someone that people want to vote for.

1232
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 1: He's never even received a vote, even though we've kind of,

1233
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 1: you know, we always relitigate that every year like he's

1234
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:08,959
Speaker 1: never earned a vote, but he has four touchdowns first game.

1235
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 1: The lock it in d K look incredible. If they

1236
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 1: running game is good and the offensive coordinator is good,

1237
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 1: they compete to be a top two or three seed.

1238
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 1: You know, I I think he'll be in the mix.

1239
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 1: Matt Stafford the a f C. I guess Brady, I

1240
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 1: mean the usual suspects, But I'd say Stafford and Russell

1241
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 1: are gonna be two guys that are gonna definitely be

1242
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:34,440
Speaker 1: in the mix. Matt John Love the show. Got a

1243
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 1: mail bad question for you. I know it's early, but

1244
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 1: with Oregon beating Ohio State and U c l A

1245
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 1: taking down l s U, do you think it's possible

1246
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 1: we can see a Pack twelve team make the playoffs playoffs?

1247
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 1: We're talking playoffs. Also, do you think Fresno can keep

1248
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 1: it close to u c l A this weekend? Here's

1249
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 1: the key for the Pack twelve. I would love to

1250
01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 1: see Fresno State beat U c l A. I really would.

1251
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 1: I actually Frison State is pretty good. They just beat

1252
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 1: You know, I got my two Alma maters cal Poly

1253
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 1: who spent five years Fresnel where it spent to uh

1254
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: But you know I gotta I got a second degree

1255
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 1: of Fresnel, so I wasn't it was all not undergrad.

1256
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 1: It wasn't seven years. I'm not Chris Farley and in

1257
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 1: Tommy Boy. But I did treat out Poly a little

1258
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 1: bit like that. Cal Poly lost sixty two to three.

1259
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 1: So but we don't belong, you know, Fresle State's higher level.

1260
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 1: I do think Frizzle State can push U c l

1261
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 1: a little bit, but Chip should beat them. The Pack twelve.

1262
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 1: What they truly need is for L s U and

1263
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 1: U c l A to run the table, or excuse

1264
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 1: me not L s U. Oregon and U c l

1265
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 1: A to run the table until they play each other

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Speaker 1: at the Roast Bowl. To undefeated, undefeated teams, two teams

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Speaker 1: potentially in like the top seven or eight, be the

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01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 1: biggest Pack twelve game in a decade. It would be

1269
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 1: enormous for the conference. You get game day there, it

1270
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 1: would be a big deal. That's what they need. So

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna put my biases aside and I want U

1272
01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 1: c l A to win this weekend and continue to

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01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 1: win up until they play Oregon, and then you get Oregon.

1274
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 1: U c l A for kind of all the marbles

1275
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 1: and if one of those two teams is undefeated, especially

1276
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 1: Oregon after beating Ohio State. Like, let's face it, Ohio

1277
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 1: State is a lot better at l s U. Eddie

1278
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 1: is not a very good coach. I mean just he's

1279
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 1: just not. They have a lot of talent, but does

1280
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 1: he have any fun clue what he's doing? I don't know.

1281
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 1: Probably not. Let's just let's just be real nice guy. Probably,

1282
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 1: I actually I have not. Some people that are around

1283
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 1: him say it's kind of a dick, but like it

1284
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 1: was Joe Brady, Joe Burrow and Jamaar Jackson company. I

1285
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you about Aaron Rodgers. At a certain point,

1286
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 1: do we have to admit that he can't play from behind?

1287
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 1: Is it possibly quits on his team when things get tough? Stafford,

1288
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 1: Ryan Dalton, Tannehill, Car Joe Flacco all have more fourth

1289
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 1: quarter comebacks in Rodgers. All of them have played less

1290
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 1: time in the league. He also avoids throwing interceptions by

1291
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 1: throwing the ball away at an alarming rate. Anyway, do

1292
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 1: you think these tendencies are holding the Packers and Rogers

1293
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 1: back for himself, I see what you're saying. I mean,

1294
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 1: they were they got boat raced. Sometimes sometimes during a

1295
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 1: season in the NFL. It shouldn't happen in college if

1296
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 1: you're a you know, a title contender like the Packers,

1297
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 1: or it wouldn't you get curb stumped, you get destroyed. Ideally,

1298
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 1: it happens like in the middle of the season when

1299
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 1: you're like seven and two and then you just get

1300
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 1: your ass kicked your seven and three. It's not the

1301
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 1: end of the world. When you're O and O. You're

1302
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 1: going first game of the season, the expectations are sky high.

1303
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 1: You have the reigning m v P. When you get

1304
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 1: beat like that, it's pretty jarring. I mean, it really is.

1305
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 1: It was. It was the most eye opening result yesterday

1306
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:39,080
Speaker 1: because it wasn't just the Packers lost. He threw multiple

1307
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 1: interceptions and James threw five touchdowns on a neutral site,

1308
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:46,920
Speaker 1: So it was weird. Uh is he a front runner?

1309
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 1: You just based the resume, you'd say, yes, that that

1310
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 1: is a little weird. I've seen car several fourth quarter comebacks.

1311
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 1: I watched them live. The other guys I have not

1312
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 1: as locked in as Mattie Ice, But yeah, it's it's

1313
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 1: a little bizarre. Do I think I think circumstances dictated

1314
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 1: a little bit, but I don't put Sunday in that category.

1315
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 1: There was no coming back when you're down like thirty

1316
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 1: to three. Do I feel like he gets a little loot?

1317
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 1: Does he quit? A little quit might be strong, but

1318
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 1: maybe he just gets over it and just moves on

1319
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 1: to the next game. I think maybe it's easier when

1320
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 1: you're an older player and accomplishes him to be like,

1321
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:25,599
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not gonna lay it on the line

1322
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:28,600
Speaker 1: down points here in the third quarter where some quarterbacks

1323
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 1: keep swinging, especially younger guys. But I don't. I don't

1324
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 1: put anything stock into that on Sunday. Uh, what up?

1325
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:42,599
Speaker 1: Cough from Brandon? With this forty Niners injury news? Would

1326
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:46,600
Speaker 1: you rather have Diami Brown on your fantasy squad to

1327
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:50,639
Speaker 1: replace Curtis Samuel in Washington or Elijah Mitchell to replace

1328
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 1: Mozart in San fran I think Elijah Mitchell is pretty good.

1329
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 1: I watched his college tape when the Niners drafted him.

1330
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:00,680
Speaker 1: Just YouTube. I'm seeing YouTube scout now, uh, and I

1331
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:03,439
Speaker 1: was impressed. I think Louisiana Lafayette and he was good.

1332
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 1: And he's a perfect scheme fit. He's a one cut

1333
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 1: back gets downhill. He's exactly what Kyle Shanahan likes. He's honestly,

1334
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 1: he's a little like running moster. I would go I'm biased,

1335
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:15,680
Speaker 1: but I would and partly I don't know who this

1336
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:18,680
Speaker 1: brown character is. For Curtis Samuel, I would go with

1337
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 1: Mitchell just on the simple fact that Kyle Shanahan loves

1338
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:23,679
Speaker 1: to run the ball. He's going to run the ball,

1339
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:27,599
Speaker 1: So Elijah Mitchell is going to carry the ball. Question

1340
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 1: for the pod from Sean. I understand that mac Jones

1341
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 1: seems to be good and has already established himself as

1342
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 1: the future of the organization, and that the Patriots defense

1343
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:40,559
Speaker 1: is solid. But how far can the Patriots really go? Well,

1344
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 1: they're owing one. They take long, exhausting drives to put

1345
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:46,639
Speaker 1: up points and appeared not to be able to throw

1346
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 1: the ball down field again this year, where when you

1347
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:53,599
Speaker 1: look at the Chiefs, Seahawks, Packers, etc. Who can get cheap,

1348
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 1: easy points. I just seem to be wary of the

1349
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 1: ability of Pat's offense to come from behind in a

1350
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 1: timely manner. Yeah, they're not built that way. The the the

1351
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 1: the Patriots are built on playing defense and low scoring games.

1352
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 1: So if they win eleven games, they're not gonna have

1353
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 1: many games. They're scoring thirty eight points. They're going to

1354
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 1: win a lot of games. Twenty four to thirteen. Right,

1355
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 1: if they would have won that game against Miami, they

1356
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 1: might have won it nineteen to seventeen. Like, that's the

1357
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 1: games they're gonna play in with Mac Jones, I think

1358
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:26,759
Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel, Teddy Bruski, you know, I think that era.

1359
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 1: That's what the games are gonna look like. Even though

1360
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 1: I think John neu Smith when Hunter Henry did he

1361
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 1: play yesterday? I don't think he did when he when

1362
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 1: he plays, maybe did I watched the game on Meet

1363
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:37,680
Speaker 1: with the podcast in the back and I wasn't too

1364
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 1: locked in. Uh, you know, Kendrick Born made a play,

1365
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 1: Aglar had a touchdown. The running backs, they're gonna play

1366
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 1: defense and they are going to, you know, try to

1367
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:49,759
Speaker 1: score like twenty four points. If they scored twenty four points,

1368
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:52,639
Speaker 1: most games they'll win. Maybe not like against the Bills,

1369
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 1: but the Dolphins, the Jets, I mean a lot of

1370
01:10:55,439 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 1: teams on their schedule, they'll be fine. Hey, John Huge

1371
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 1: from Ben Huge, Ohio State and Vikings fan. With the

1372
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 1: Bears looking god awful in Week one, my biggest fear

1373
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:09,759
Speaker 1: is the Bears fire Naggie and then go get Ryan

1374
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:13,759
Speaker 1: Day from Ohio State or b enemy from the Chiefs. Thoughts.

1375
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 1: If the Bears do fire Naggie, I think they go

1376
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 1: after a guy from Northwestern path It Gerald. I think

1377
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:23,599
Speaker 1: that was and that's the only job he would ever entertain.

1378
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 1: I think that would be the guy that they try

1379
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 1: to go higher. Uh. If I was Ryan Day, I

1380
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:32,720
Speaker 1: would probably not leave Ohio State. I would keep o

1381
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 1: High State. I mean, you could be Ohio State for

1382
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 1: a decade. Ryan Day is pretty good coach. I watched

1383
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 1: the maybe I mentioned this on Monday, remember the Monday pod.

1384
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 1: If you liked this podcast, I also put one out

1385
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 1: on Monday, but it's only on my feet, so you

1386
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 1: have to subscribe to the separate feed. I watched two

1387
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 1: coaches press conferences on US on Saturday night, and it

1388
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 1: was Steve Sarkisian and Ryan Day star cav this kind

1389
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 1: of lazy fair you know, it wasn't that big a deal,

1390
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 1: kind of a West Coast vibe. Hell, I'm might have

1391
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 1: been the same, like same type of Ryan Day was

1392
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:05,840
Speaker 1: piste off. Ryan Day reminded me of like the way

1393
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:08,800
Speaker 1: Nick Saban would act after a bad loss. Urban Meyer

1394
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 1: would act, Sean Payton would act. You know, it's just like, Okay,

1395
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 1: I see the fire in Ryan Day Sark, Now, I

1396
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 1: get it. Personalities and press conferences, you could argue are

1397
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:19,720
Speaker 1: pretty irrelevant. But it's like I saw one guy where

1398
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 1: the standard and the expectations are sky high, and the

1399
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:23,680
Speaker 1: other guy was like, oh, you know, we gotta fix it,

1400
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:25,559
Speaker 1: we gotta get better. It's like Stark, No, you're a

1401
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:28,679
Speaker 1: Texas buddy like this, the expectations are sky high, you're

1402
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 1: making huge cash. You got uh, you know, your career

1403
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 1: got resurrected by old st Nick. You might want to

1404
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:38,559
Speaker 1: figure this out. Because Ryan Day, the way he conducted himself,

1405
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:42,000
Speaker 1: he was pissed. I was impressed. I'm impressed with Ryan Day.

1406
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 1: I like Ryan Day, But what I hired him to

1407
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:47,800
Speaker 1: be the Bears coach? Probably not. I would also if

1408
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:49,599
Speaker 1: he asked me, not that he would, I would say

1409
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 1: stay at the last Day Bro. Also part of me

1410
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:54,799
Speaker 1: hopes that we get rid of Zimmer after the sea. Listen,

1411
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 1: if you guys do not make the playoffs, Mike Zimmers

1412
01:12:57,080 --> 01:13:00,120
Speaker 1: not coming back. I'll promise you that. If the Vikings

1413
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:04,880
Speaker 1: is the playoffs, Mike Zimmer is gonna get fired. I

1414
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 1: very rarely from Nate love the pod. Typically, the term

1415
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 1: helicopter parent means a parent who is overprotective. I think

1416
01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 1: where I get mixed up with helicopter parent and Disneyland dad.

1417
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:19,640
Speaker 1: So the helicopter parent, they are around the kid and

1418
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 1: they freak out every time he leaves the room because

1419
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 1: they think you're just over protective. Okay, I follow the

1420
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:27,719
Speaker 1: Disneyland dad kind of a scumbag parent who only comes

1421
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 1: when times are cool, like let's go to Disneyland, let's

1422
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:32,680
Speaker 1: go to Hawaii, let's go to the toy store. But

1423
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 1: when times are tough, like where's he at doing your homework?

1424
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 1: Maybe I get those two mixed up. So we got

1425
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 1: the helicopter parent, over productive parent Disneyland dad who just

1426
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 1: comes for the cool ship. Good day, John, first off,

1427
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:48,320
Speaker 1: I love the show. Really Happy you're on the volume.

1428
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 1: Sports me too happy to be here, happy to be wanted,

1429
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:54,000
Speaker 1: happy to be hurt. One for the mail bag. I'm

1430
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:56,599
Speaker 1: from Australia and I've only really gotten into the NFL

1431
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:58,639
Speaker 1: the last couple of years. I listened to the bit

1432
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:01,200
Speaker 1: from Brady last week in his interview, saying the NFL

1433
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 1: has changed so much and how the quarterback offense is

1434
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 1: now protected through umpiring. I don't seem to understand the

1435
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 1: need for umpires to make calls and flags on unnecessary

1436
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 1: roughness that isn't really there. In my opinion, I would agree.

1437
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 1: For example, I saw that in the Jags texting games,

1438
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 1: Taylor was pushed, albeit hardly, once he was out of

1439
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 1: the play on his run of twenty yard line. This

1440
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:25,760
Speaker 1: resulting in a flag didn't really have an impact on

1441
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 1: the game because the Texans had ran away with it.

1442
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:30,879
Speaker 1: But my question basically is why do you think umpires

1443
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 1: feel the need to call that when it didn't affect

1444
01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 1: Taylor the Jags were down and out Because part of

1445
01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 1: it is they're instructed from the league. Safety is such

1446
01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:45,719
Speaker 1: a it's just such a hot button topic inside the league.

1447
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 1: They were sued and you know, for a lot of

1448
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 1: money for the concussion lawsuit years ago, and they vowed

1449
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:55,160
Speaker 1: to clean up the game because I think it's scared

1450
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 1: them that the game of football was going to die,

1451
01:14:57,600 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 1: and rightfully so. And when I say die, I just

1452
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:02,760
Speaker 1: meant like it just it ruined the game because of

1453
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 1: concussions and ct The media was obsessed with it it's

1454
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:08,760
Speaker 1: weird the media, like they get obsessed with something and

1455
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 1: then they just completely forget about it and they move

1456
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 1: on to the next thing. Like I haven't heard anyone

1457
01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:15,679
Speaker 1: mentioned ct in like seven years. Uh, but for about

1458
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 1: two years, every single media member, now a lot of

1459
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:22,519
Speaker 1: them covered the NBA wanted the NFL to die. Uh.

1460
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 1: It didn't. It's thrived and it's printed money. But the

1461
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:28,680
Speaker 1: NFL pivoted and they want to avoid big collisions at

1462
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 1: all costs. I think part of that pivot has become

1463
01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 1: an overcompensation with violence, and I think they every time

1464
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 1: anything is close, they throw the flag, even though I

1465
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:41,760
Speaker 1: think at this point in time the league used to

1466
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 1: be very violent and football still is violent, but it

1467
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 1: was really really violent seventies, eighties, nineties, in the two thousand's.

1468
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 1: The last five or six years, they have just basically,

1469
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:56,639
Speaker 1: you know, through the rules, forced it out of the game.

1470
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:59,640
Speaker 1: So when you get a big hit, there's no violence,

1471
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 1: malicious intent, it's just because the guys trying to make

1472
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:06,719
Speaker 1: a tackle. Because these guys now in college are taught

1473
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:09,760
Speaker 1: that if you lead with your helmet, if you you know,

1474
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 1: head hunt, you get kicked out of the game. So

1475
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:15,880
Speaker 1: now these guys have it wired into their head to

1476
01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 1: avoid it. So when you see a big collision, they're

1477
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 1: not trying to have a big they're just trying to

1478
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:21,439
Speaker 1: tackle the guy. But sometimes two guys are running fast,

1479
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:25,240
Speaker 1: it just happens, and I think the referees they are

1480
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 1: just instinctive. Now the flag goes. It's why you see

1481
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:31,760
Speaker 1: I didn't see this play with Tyrod Taylor, but it

1482
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:34,680
Speaker 1: happened to Mac Jones was tackled around his ankles. It's

1483
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 1: a joke. It really is pretty embarrassing. But I think

1484
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 1: that if Roger Gndale was sitting with me right now,

1485
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 1: he's like, listen, we're gonna be We're gonna lean on

1486
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:46,000
Speaker 1: one side on this, and it's pretty clear what side

1487
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,679
Speaker 1: we're leaning. So if if it's even close, we're throwing

1488
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 1: the flag. Tie goes to the runner. Tie goes to

1489
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 1: you're hitting a fifteen yard penalty, which sucks. And any fan,

1490
01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:57,760
Speaker 1: if your team, or if you're a player or a

1491
01:16:57,840 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 1: coach and you're on the wrong side of it, it

1492
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 1: is it is not fun. It feels I would say,

1493
01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 1: it feels very very unfair. You know, you know when

1494
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:09,160
Speaker 1: you're a little kid and something happens to you and

1495
01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 1: you're like, dad, Mom, this is unfair, And I bet

1496
01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:14,719
Speaker 1: if you look back, it's truly not. As you get older,

1497
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:16,719
Speaker 1: you realize some things in life are just kind of unfair.

1498
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:19,720
Speaker 1: What happens to certain people, Things that you even see

1499
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:21,639
Speaker 1: that doesn't even impact you, that you see from afar,

1500
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 1: You're like, God, this is not this is not cool, man.

1501
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:27,760
Speaker 1: Uh that's what it feels like sometimes with the referees

1502
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 1: when it comes to the flags with unnecessary roughness defenseless receivers.

1503
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:34,120
Speaker 1: But they they've been taught that and it comes from

1504
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:36,559
Speaker 1: the league, and they're protecting their money because at one

1505
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:38,560
Speaker 1: point in time it looked like this is something that

1506
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:41,519
Speaker 1: could really take down the league, and Hollywood made a

1507
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 1: movie about it and they just pivoted, and now it

1508
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:48,720
Speaker 1: feels dramatically safer. It's very pro health. Uh so, yeah,

1509
01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 1: I don't think we trust me. It's only gonna get worse.

1510
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 1: Which team do you think leak the info? The Pats

1511
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 1: trying to move up in the draft? I saw she

1512
01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:00,280
Speaker 1: after tweeted out. I refused to click on it. I

1513
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 1: just don't think it's that relevant, you know. I mean,

1514
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 1: they traded up to three to get Mac Jones, but

1515
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:07,800
Speaker 1: they ended up taking tray Lance, like who they took

1516
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 1: Trey Lance. So they traded up and then they changed

1517
01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 1: their mind like they took Trey Lance. Mac Jones might

1518
01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:15,720
Speaker 1: turn out to be a really good player. Under no

1519
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:18,799
Speaker 1: circumstances could you have taken Mac Jones at three overall?

1520
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 1: You could not take Mac Jones at three overall. That's

1521
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 1: not his value. You don't pay ten million dollars for

1522
01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:27,479
Speaker 1: a three million dollar house. Even if you really like

1523
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:30,599
Speaker 1: the three million dollar house, maybe you pay four. I'd

1524
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 1: have been cool with if you really like Mac, trade

1525
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 1: up twelve to ten or something. Trading taking Mac Jones

1526
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 1: at three would have been one of the most irresponsible

1527
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 1: moves in the history of the league when it comes

1528
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:43,439
Speaker 1: to the draft, it would have been insane. Tray Lance

1529
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 1: was worthy of the three pick, third pick, even though

1530
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 1: there's a huge projection there and there's a lot to go.

1531
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:51,519
Speaker 1: If Kyle Shanahan would have and clearly it's not going away,

1532
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 1: and people think that, I don't know. I've never asked Kyle.

1533
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:56,400
Speaker 1: I don't know Kyle. He's never told me or people

1534
01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:59,680
Speaker 1: around him. I know a lot of people in that organization.

1535
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 1: I don't even bring it up because I'm not going

1536
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 1: to get the right answer, and they're they're not a

1537
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:07,160
Speaker 1: leaky organization. They don't even I don't get any good information.

1538
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 1: I get way better information a lot of other teams.

1539
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:11,719
Speaker 1: I do the forty niners, and I know about seven

1540
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 1: people that are important in there. They that's not like

1541
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 1: they're not gossipy that way, But I I just do

1542
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 1: know that you could not have taken mac Jones at

1543
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 1: three overall. He would have been the least talented player

1544
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 1: just physical characteristics in the history of the draft that's

1545
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 1: ever gone third overall or that top three. You couldn't

1546
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:30,599
Speaker 1: have done it. And look where he went. The market spoke.

1547
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 1: He went fifteen. The market spoke Trey Lance never would

1548
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:38,920
Speaker 1: have asted to twelve. So I don't have all the information.

1549
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 1: Uh do I think Kyle Shanahan like Mac Jones? I do,

1550
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 1: Like I'm not like trying to act like that didn't

1551
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:47,719
Speaker 1: that wasn't in play and he didn't think mac Jones

1552
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 1: was a good player. A lot of coaches did. And

1553
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 1: this is where I think coaches sometimes struggle with the draft,

1554
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:56,599
Speaker 1: like there's a value to this, Like you don't need

1555
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 1: to trade up to three. So if he did. If

1556
01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:01,599
Speaker 1: if that is true, that's kind of crazy, and props

1557
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:05,160
Speaker 1: to whoever in that front office talk Kyle out of it. Now,

1558
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:07,679
Speaker 1: if mac Jones turns out better than trade Lance, those

1559
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:09,920
Speaker 1: guys are probably screwed and Kyle's gonna kill him. Literally

1560
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:13,120
Speaker 1: he might because Kyle hell Brandon Aiyuk, who was their

1561
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:15,200
Speaker 1: first round wide receiver, who I was at training. I

1562
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:18,080
Speaker 1: probably went to seven training camp practices. He was awesome.

1563
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:20,800
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, Kyle just benches him, and it's like,

1564
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:22,760
Speaker 1: you know, he's gotta learn to be a pro. Kyle,

1565
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:26,639
Speaker 1: and which I do respect for being a younger coach,

1566
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:30,200
Speaker 1: has some old school characteristics like would you piss him off?

1567
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:32,599
Speaker 1: You just will not play. It's like, where's Brandon Ayuk,

1568
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 1: your first round wide receiver, arguably your number one wide receiver.

1569
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:37,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's just on the bench. Why he just

1570
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:38,800
Speaker 1: needs to learn how to be a pro. He's kind

1571
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:42,040
Speaker 1: of he's got that Belichickian thing to him, Like I'm like,

1572
01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 1: I to have some conservative things to me. I'm pretty

1573
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:47,400
Speaker 1: conservative when it comes to money, but I'm pretty liberal

1574
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 1: with everything else, you know, socially, that as liberal as

1575
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:52,760
Speaker 1: you get when it comes to my football players, very

1576
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:55,719
Speaker 1: open minded. Best players play. I don't give a shit

1577
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:58,840
Speaker 1: about being a pro. Is he good? Can he make plays? Playing?

1578
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:02,200
Speaker 1: Trying to win game? Trying to win on Sunday? Because

1579
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:05,320
Speaker 1: if we are like Brandon and Uk he didn't run

1580
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:07,960
Speaker 1: hard on Wednesday's practice, that doesn't bother me as much.

1581
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 1: I get it. I'm not a head coach, but I

1582
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:14,200
Speaker 1: don't know. I I was trained by some you know, talent.

1583
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:16,080
Speaker 1: Trump's all the coaches that I've been around, and I

1584
01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 1: think Kyle's. It's something he battles sometimes because he can

1585
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:20,519
Speaker 1: be a you know, a little bit of a tight

1586
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 1: ass with some of his guys, which you know you

1587
01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 1: had success two years ago. But like, how you're gonna

1588
01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:29,160
Speaker 1: need to play Brandon Auke here, buddy, Like I get

1589
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:31,360
Speaker 1: you know he's pissing you off about something. I don't

1590
01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:34,439
Speaker 1: know why, but let's get him on the field. You know,

1591
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:36,559
Speaker 1: can't draft him in the first round and just because

1592
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 1: you're mad at him, I get it. If the guy

1593
01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:40,720
Speaker 1: can't play, the guy can play. I've seen him. I've

1594
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 1: been around the NFL long enough that dude can play.

1595
01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 1: As practice happens, great, I don't know the practice I've

1596
01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:48,400
Speaker 1: been att he looked fine, but who knows. You know,

1597
01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:51,360
Speaker 1: once training camp ends, no one's allowed to practice beside

1598
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:53,720
Speaker 1: the coaches and the players and the staff, so no

1599
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:56,719
Speaker 1: one sees it. Clearly he's doing something. He's not studying

1600
01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:59,439
Speaker 1: hard enough. I don't know. I'm all for, you know,

1601
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 1: getting on the same page. But let's figure this one out.

1602
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 1: I know you don't like the Rams, but I love them.

1603
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:11,880
Speaker 1: I don't not like the Rams. I love Sean mcfay.

1604
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:15,400
Speaker 1: But as Sean m vicveigh in trouble if Matt Stafford fails,

1605
01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:18,439
Speaker 1: I only see a two year window before Aaron Donald

1606
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:22,519
Speaker 1: searches to climb. Here's the thing, Anthony, Matt Stafford is

1607
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:25,280
Speaker 1: not going to fail. He's too talented, he's too good.

1608
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:27,680
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh is too good of a coach. You saw it,

1609
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:31,439
Speaker 1: you know on Sunday Night Football. It's gonna work. Now.

1610
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:33,679
Speaker 1: Are they gonna win Super Bowls? Are they even gonna

1611
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:35,840
Speaker 1: get to the Super Bowl? I don't know. Are they

1612
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:39,559
Speaker 1: gonna be freaking good? And are they gonna win enough

1613
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:41,320
Speaker 1: games to be in the playoffs? You bet, you're asked

1614
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 1: they are. They are going to be a problem. Matt

1615
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 1: Stafford is an exceptional talent, and he's He's not like

1616
01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:52,240
Speaker 1: he's thirty eight years old. He's thirty two years old.

1617
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:55,840
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh is a fantastic coach. You mess those two

1618
01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 1: guys together, the scheme works. The evidence is in. You

1619
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:01,639
Speaker 1: saw it Rodgers it last year. You see what Russell

1620
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:03,800
Speaker 1: Wilson's about to do. You saw what Matt Ryan did,

1621
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:06,280
Speaker 1: what Matt shob Like when you get a guy as

1622
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:09,800
Speaker 1: talented as Stafford, like with Rogers, it becomes a cheek

1623
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:13,040
Speaker 1: code like it makes Jimmy Garoppolo and Jared Goff look good.

1624
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:15,360
Speaker 1: But when you get a guy with an enormous arm,

1625
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:20,920
Speaker 1: who can move, who's smart, I mean, I think they

1626
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:23,960
Speaker 1: are really really scary. I I do. I mean I

1627
01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 1: think they are a major major factor in two one.

1628
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:29,640
Speaker 1: Do I think they're gonna win the Super Bowl? I

1629
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:32,080
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, if I knew, we're all just guessing.

1630
01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 1: If I knew who was gonna win the Super Bowl,

1631
01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:36,679
Speaker 1: I place on it right now. I have no clue.

1632
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 1: Tampa Rams, Packers, Steelers, Chiefs, who knows, right, Chiefs probably there,

1633
01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:46,000
Speaker 1: but the the NFC team. It's gonna be hard. But

1634
01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:49,799
Speaker 1: I think the Rams probably not quite as good. As Tampa.

1635
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 1: But the thing in the NFL, it's not basketball, right,

1636
01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:55,320
Speaker 1: it's not baseball. Like you don't get seven games, you

1637
01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 1: get the one game. So if I'm healthy in the

1638
01:23:57,320 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 1: playoffs and maybe you have a major injury, I can

1639
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:00,880
Speaker 1: beat you, even if it's on the road. See it

1640
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:04,439
Speaker 1: all the time. Eli's two super Bowls wild Guard both years.

1641
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 1: Think about that, all the road games won two super Bowls.

1642
01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:11,600
Speaker 1: Be Belichick twice, Eli man be Belichick twice. Say that

1643
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:14,679
Speaker 1: out loud, Eli Manning, be Bell Jack and Brady twice.

1644
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:18,559
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's about getting hot and getting in a rhythm

1645
01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:21,120
Speaker 1: and feeling confidence and just let it kind of snowball,

1646
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 1: and then just you know, you just play your good games,

1647
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:26,280
Speaker 1: like you just get hot at the right time. Your

1648
01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:28,880
Speaker 1: team plays great games, your coaches put together perfect plans,

1649
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you win a couple playoff games.

1650
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:32,760
Speaker 1: You're right there. It's all it takes. I think the

1651
01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:36,080
Speaker 1: RAMS have a good chance as any. Appreciate everyone listening.

1652
01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:40,200
Speaker 1: Have a great week. Check out the volume on YouTube.

1653
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:43,160
Speaker 1: Obviously the volume all the shows Rocking and Rolling, uh.

1654
01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:46,240
Speaker 1: You can see them all followed on on the social accounts.

1655
01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:49,439
Speaker 1: They tweet them all out and uh I appreciate everyone

1656
01:24:49,640 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 1: and I will talk to you guys soon. The volume