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The Colin Coward Podcast 11 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: presented by the Fan Duel Sports Book. Hi everybody, and 12 00:00:54,800 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: welcome in. I've taken a few days cesta as the 13 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: NBA season ended. We're gonna have a great week. We 14 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: got Nick Wright, we got Ian O'Connor from New York. 15 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: We're going to have Mike Silver, We're going to have 16 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: Chad Millman. We are absolutely packed Nick Wright. Today Draymond 17 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: Greene called him out and we're going to get to that. 18 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: We always have a spirited forty five minute discussion. So 19 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: as you can see if you're watching, I'm in a 20 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: white T shirt with a pocket. This is going to 21 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: likely be for the next six to eight weeks. How 22 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: I addressed for this podcast very casual. It is summer. 23 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: It is a heater today in Los Angeles, and after this, 24 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: I'm going outside and I'm going swimming, and I'm in 25 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: swim trunks right now. And for the next six to 26 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: eight weeks. That's how you're going to have to consume me, 27 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: because on this podcast, I'm just letting it roll. I 28 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: want to talk about this for about five minutes. So 29 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: timing is everything. And there are certain times in my 30 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: life where I haven't worked well with people, and then 31 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: later on in life I do work well with people. 32 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: If you've been in a relationship, maybe you're with your wife, 33 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,239 Speaker 1: and have you ever gotten into the discussion, Oh my god. 34 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: If we'd have met like we were teenagers, we would 35 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: have hated each other. But we met after college. We 36 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: were both in our jobs. We fell in love. My 37 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: wife and I always joke about that we would not 38 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: have worked in high school, but we were both divorced 39 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: and it worked really well. We were a cool place 40 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: in our lives, more mature, probably a little vulnerable, and 41 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: you know, we clicked for the last fifteen years. And 42 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about that story in The Athletic that Kyrie 43 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: Irving and the Brooklyn Nets are at an impass, And 44 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: I really do think Lebron and Kyrie worked for each 45 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: other now, So the thing to remember about both and 46 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: Lebron has always been highly calculated. Kyrie Irving had his 47 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: best three point shooting year ever, and if Lebron played 48 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 1: two more games, he would have officially led the NBA 49 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: in scoring. Lebron and Kyrie are not declining players, They're 50 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: just not available as much as people would like. Anthony 51 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: Davis and Westbrook are declining players. And remember Lebron's fear 52 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: in Miami. Why did he bail on Dwayne Wade because 53 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: he feared he was getting old? Remember that right knee. 54 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: Dwyane Wade could struggle on back to backs, he would 55 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: give you about three four games in a series, not 56 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: six or seven. Lebron likes veteran players, but when he 57 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:46,279 Speaker 1: senses they're too old and getting banged up or declining, 58 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: he has bailed on them. Go back to Cleveland, Go 59 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: back to Miami, Go back to Cleveland again. Remember Kyrie 60 00:03:55,360 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: bailed on Lebron. Lebron didn't bail on Kyrie. So that's 61 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: an important facet to remember, Brooklyn needs a big Anthony 62 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: Davis would be that Lakers need off ball shooting. Kyrie 63 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: would answer that, don't get caught up in Westbrook. He's irrelevant. 64 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: Nobody really wants him. That's why he keeps bouncing around 65 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: the league. But I think it is interesting to remember 66 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: if you look at Lebron's career, he doesn't like young players, 67 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: and he bails on even friends who he feels become fragile. 68 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: And I've been told twice by people inside the Lakers 69 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: Lebron is frustrated that Anthony Davis is declining and has 70 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: aged very quickly. He peaked. Look at the numbers. Anthony 71 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: Davis peaked about four years ago. It's never been the 72 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: same player because he's never committed in the offseason. He 73 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: had to quote a couple of weeks ago. He hasn't 74 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 1: touched the ball from April. He hasn't touched the ball 75 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: since April, and he's never committed in the weight room. 76 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: The rumors come up about the Lakers interested in Kyrie. 77 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: I don't think it's a coincidence. It's right after the 78 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: Warriors win and all of a sudden, you see Lebron 79 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: working out with Kevin Love, and you see discussions about 80 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: the Lakers and Kyrie Irving. Just remember remember when the 81 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: Eagles were a great band. And then in nineteen eighty 82 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: Don Henley and Glenn Frye broke up. Don Henley was asked, 83 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: what are the chances of you guys ever getting back together? 84 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: And he said, when hell Freeze is over. And then 85 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety four they got back together and their 86 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: album was called Hell Freeze is Over. And Lebron's at 87 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 1: a point in his career where he is still great 88 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: at initiating offense. The Lakers were second in the league 89 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: last year, believe it or not at getting open threes. 90 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: They just didn't have anybody to hit them. And Kyrie 91 00:05:55,560 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: Irving is coming off his best three point shooting percentage 92 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: of his career. Just because you can struggle at one point, 93 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: break up at one point doesn't mean you don't work 94 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: together later. I think Kyrie and Lebron need each other. 95 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: Lebron's tired of ad Katie tired of Kyrie makes a 96 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: ton of sense to me. You know, there's some argument 97 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: for sportspeople about what is a dynasty. The Spurs, Greg Popovich, 98 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: Tim duncan never won back to back championships, and so 99 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: many believe it was not a dynasty. Now, there's nothing 100 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: in the definition of a dynasty that says you have 101 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: to win back to back to back to back championships. 102 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: But I do think occasionally when a team is successful 103 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: for eight, ten, twelve years or more, it goes from 104 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: a dynasty to an empire. And I think the Patriots 105 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: the Spurs now the Warriors have reached a point where 106 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: they classify as an empire, which is empires don't last 107 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: three years. Shack and Kobe three titles together, a few 108 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: more years before, one year after and they blow up. 109 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: That's not an empire. That's two really talented guys that 110 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: get together, win some championships and wear each other out. 111 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: The Miami Heat the Heatles their best year was year two, 112 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: darn Goood in year three, declined and broke up after 113 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: year four. Am I supposed to be more impressed with that? 114 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: I don't even think that compares to what the Warriors 115 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: have built. Dynasties can be short. Empires never feel like 116 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: they are. In fact, the Patriots had two dynasties within 117 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: what I would call an empire. The Spurs had several 118 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: championships over twelve thirteen years, and I think that's what's 119 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: impressive about the Warriors. They're greater than a dynasty. Four 120 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: titles eight years, one shot from five titles eight years, 121 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: one shot, and some injuries from six titles eight years. 122 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: They will be favored again next year. And what they 123 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: really are is the essence of the sport top down, 124 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: smartest organization. Coach is a former player, the star wins 125 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: as the number one or with kad as the number two. 126 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: Three of their players have worked together for the entire 127 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 1: span of it. I think Roger Federer, Serena Williams, that's 128 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: not dynastic, that's an empire. They have created empires, Tiger Woods, 129 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: Jack Nicholas, from courses to championships to speaking fees. That's 130 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: beyond a dynasty, and it's very rare. But I think 131 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: that's what Golden State has created is that on so 132 00:08:55,800 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: many levels they are copied. You have a former player 133 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: as a GM as a coach, a diehard basketball fan 134 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 1: as an owner. They draft and develop at the height 135 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: of the profession and so when people say, well, you know, 136 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: did they win here and did they win there? I 137 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 1: don't think dynasty is the ultimate compliment. I mean, if 138 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: you told me in my career what I could become, 139 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: the highest compliment is an empire. I make money with gambling, podcasting, streaming, television, audio, 140 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: subscription advertising. That's far more impressive than been having meteoric success. Briefly, 141 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: an empire is when you have holdings. An empire is 142 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: when you control many things. You're elite at scouting and coaching, 143 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: you're elite at defense and shooting. You start looking if 144 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: you deep dive on the Warriors, like a share in 145 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 1: the Bay Area or a five percent or a diehard 146 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: NBA fan, what they're doing now is phenomenal. They have 147 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: many believe, one of the best young big men, James Wiseman. 148 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: He didn't play in the finals. One of the best athletic, twitchy, 149 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: versatile defenders Jonathan Kuminga. Didn't see how much dig in 150 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 1: the playoffs. 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All right, my 184 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: buddy Nick. Right, we don't bring Nick on as much 185 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: because A he's got his own podcast. B he's becoming 186 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: a rock star. Yeah, he's married with a bunch of kids. 187 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: That truth is he's doing they're married with a bunch 188 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 1: of kids thing. Man. I don't know how people do it. 189 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I've been doing it, but god dog it, 190 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: it ain't easy. Lot going on, but days are long 191 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: and the years fly by. My son's now taller than me. 192 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 1: That's unbelievable. The sun is that's your son. That when 193 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: I was moving out of la you brought to the 194 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: resort I was at and he swam with my kids. Yep. Yeah, 195 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 1: the really sharp kid, like I don't know if it's 196 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: inventor or computer. I know, like he does cool stuff. Yeah, 197 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: he's taller than you. He's six three and you're a 198 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: big guys six two and I'm sixty. Yeah. That's unbelievable. 199 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 1: That's unbelievable. It's good to see you, my friend. I 200 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: miss you. You know. It's you know, I've been in 201 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 1: New York now. Next week is the five year anniversary 202 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: of when I moved here. You know, I think I 203 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: think New York works for you. First of all, your 204 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 1: beautiful wife now has a boutique in Harlem, which is amazing. 205 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: I see it. It's called t It's it's vintage but trendy. 206 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: Yeah you got it. It's vintage plus trendy, which is Trentage. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, 207 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: that is great. Oh, she's gonna be thrilled. We're gonna 208 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: put that. That's an unpaid Colin Goward endorsement. Every calls 209 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 1: twenty five grand. That's now gonna be on the Instagram page. 210 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: We got that shit for three Yeah, so it's great. 211 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: Can I tell you something real quick that you said 212 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: about New York when I was moving out here, and 213 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: you're right, it does work for us, and my wife 214 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: and kids love it, and then we can talk sports 215 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 1: and really cares about my life. It is Living in 216 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: New York is a grind, man. It's like, yeah, the 217 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: element of oh damn it, I need to go to 218 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: the store. The fact that that's like can't. There's nothing quick, 219 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: there's like nothing easy, Like everything involves a process and 220 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: you got to planet out that. What amazes me is 221 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: when I see like the little old lady in the 222 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: winter who lives alone, who just navigates New York by herself, 223 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, you are You are a hustler and 224 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: you got a harder bones than me. Man, Because I 225 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: don't I really like it here. I don't think I'll 226 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: live here the rest of my life. Like I don't. 227 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: I think it's hard to come to New York. I 228 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: think it's hard to live in New York forever if 229 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: you're not from here, because then every it always feels 230 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: like there's just a lot. There's always a lot going 231 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: on there. It's always it bustling, and that's exciting, but 232 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: it can be draining. At times would you warn me 233 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: about before I came out here. But it is true. No, 234 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: I said before kids and after kids, it's fantastic. During kids, 235 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: it's a lot of work. It's a lot man. It's like, oh, 236 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: you have you have volleyball practice. We have to go 237 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: to Randall's Island for it. Like what, It's just everything 238 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: is a little harder than anywhere else. When I was 239 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: in LA recently, uh, one of our co workers their 240 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: kid had a flag football game and he was like, hey, 241 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: if you're if you're by, come by, swing by. I'm like, oh, 242 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: that's right. There's like open fields and a lot of 243 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: kids and there's a parking lot. I'm like, oh, this 244 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: is this is like what the rest of the country's like. 245 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: But go ahead, Well you taught me when I moved 246 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: a lot beloved Warriors in the NBA Finals and Raymond 247 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: number one podcast in the world. Let's shift to that. 248 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: So first of all, I've got a crazy trade idea 249 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: that I put on the air today. Oh I didn't see. Okay, 250 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: the Brooklyn Nets need defense in size. When you're in 251 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: a conference with the Honis and Joe lmbid, you can't 252 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: have Kevin Durant is the guy on the floor the 253 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: last six minutes of a game making the stops. He's 254 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: gotta get buckets. The Lakers were second in the NBA 255 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: in open threes thanks to Lebron. They have no shooters. 256 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: Kyrie acknowledged, was my bat in Cleveland. I wasn't mature enough. 257 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: Kyrie to Lebron, don't worry about Westbrook irrelevant. Nobody wants him. 258 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: Let the contract bleed out. AD to k d he 259 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: needs a more chill personality defense, a big What he 260 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: doesn't need is another shooter who doesn't really want to 261 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: defend and wants the ball with a minute left. No, no, 262 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: that ADS never wanted that pressure. AD defends He's got 263 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: size you needed in the East. Remember the East, you 264 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: need Biggs, you don't out West having the sound are 265 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: getting rid of DeAndre Ayton. The Warrior's big is kvon Loody. 266 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: Most teams in the West Yokich, all right, Rudy Gobert 267 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: could be on the move. It's just Kiki is the 268 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 1: only one you. I mean, Dallas now their biggest Christian 269 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: Wood who's a six nine rail thin forward. So I'll 270 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: throw that at you. Is that It kind of makes 271 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: some sense, right, take Westbrook out. Nobody wants him eventually. Okay, 272 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: So here's the thing that so Brew actually said that 273 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: to me off the air today Christmas is the only 274 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: way the Lakers Chris Bruce Star had said it off 275 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: the air, like, because we were in commercial break when 276 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: that Sham's athletic story broke and we were about to 277 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: go on the air, and he was and I was like, 278 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: Sham's is connecting the Lakers to it? And Bruges set 279 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: off handed. He was like, are they trading Anthony Davis 280 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: because that's the only way they're getting him. And my 281 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: response to my response to you is if for that 282 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 1: trade to happen, if I'm the Lakers, I need more. 283 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: I don't know what the more is. I don't know 284 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: that I want Patty Mills because he's so old. I 285 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: don't know what the worries. I don't know if you 286 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: have to work in another team. But I don't think, 287 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 1: as I know, you're down on a D And obviously 288 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: he's got injury issues and maybe some motivation and he's 289 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 1: a declining plot. Yeah, but he's still more valuable than 290 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving. Right, he is still more valuable than Kyrie Irving, 291 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: who has the same injury issues farm greater reliability issues, 292 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: and he is not the two way guy than Anthony 293 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: Davis has proven to be. So that is a fascinating 294 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: one because can you win a title with Lebron Lebron 295 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: and a D. Yes, we saw it, but you need 296 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: the rest of the team to be really well formed? 297 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: Can you win a title with Lebron and Kyrie? Not 298 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: only did we see it, the rest of the team 299 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: wasn't all that well formed and you beat a damn 300 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: juggernaut to you know, to win that title. That one 301 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: is fascinating, but I would need more. If I'm the Lakers, 302 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 1: I can't trade Ad straight up for Kyrie Irving. But 303 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: it is a fascinating Remember this, I'm trying to think. 304 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: Hold on, let me ask you this. Wait, wait, let 305 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: me ask you this. You said forget Westbrook, now you 306 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: want to get true wacky Town. Okay, I give you 307 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: a D and Russ and you give me Kyrie and Ben. 308 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 1: Take it in a second, that I would do because 309 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: that it's like, if you now you are as as 310 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 1: as flawed as Ben is. He's far more valuable than Russ, 311 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 1: no question about it. And if you're the Nets. That's 312 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: the cost, the taxes. And by the way, you've never 313 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: seen Ben Simmons play, and the russ contract is expiring. 314 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 1: That if I'm the Lakers, that one I do. Oh 315 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: that's an interesting one. How about this? That one? And 316 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: I think the contracts work. Oh, that one. That would 317 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: be one of the biggest NBA trades ever. Okay, so 318 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 1: I said this in the preamble to you. Lebron has 319 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 1: a his three. He even bailed on d Wade once 320 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: he was physically vulnerable. Kyrie is not declining. Had his 321 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: best three point shooting year ever a d is look 322 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: it up, peaked three to four years ago. His field 323 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 1: goal percentage, his points. He had a terrible shooting year, Lebron. 324 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: He shot eighteen percent from three. I don't know how 325 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 1: it was in a bigger story. Eighteen percent. Yeah, he's 326 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: impossibly bad. It was. It was in the discussion for 327 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,360 Speaker 1: the worst three point shooting year yea by any player ever. 328 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: But go ahead. So Kyrie's not a declining player. Lebron 329 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 1: plays two more games, he wins the NBA scoring title. 330 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: He's declining in availability. He is not declining in the 331 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:50,360 Speaker 1: ability to get baskets. Lebron knows Lebron gets the most 332 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: out of everybody. Kyrie acknowledged we broke up my bad 333 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: I was immature. So Lebron has bailed on his best 334 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: friend d Wade, Remember d Wade. At the end he struggle. 335 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: He needed like four days rest for his right knee. 336 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: Of Chris Bosh, a great player, great guy, good friend, 337 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: had health issues. Lebron will bail on a friend if 338 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: he feels they're declining. Kyrie is not available, but he's 339 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 1: not declining. He is still the best small finisher in 340 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: the sport. It is fascinating one Colin, listen, I have 341 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 1: been I've been talking since December. At first, it was 342 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: a little tongue in cheek, a little serious look when 343 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: the Nets weren't playing Kyrie at all, when it was 344 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: looked like they were gonna get zero games out of him, 345 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: and we knew he had this contract coming up and 346 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: the Russ thing Cluly wasn't working. I said in December, 347 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: Russ for Kyrie. I was like, you guys, people can 348 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: say that sounds ridiculous, but if you're going to get 349 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: zero games out of him and then he's going to walk, 350 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: he's worth zero at least see if Russ reunited with 351 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant. This was when they still had Harden. Keep 352 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: in mind, you know what I mean, the Nets had 353 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: Harden and KD. I was like, it might be worth 354 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: a try if you're Brooklyn. And then it just seems 355 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 1: to be more and more slow momentum towards a Kyrie 356 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: and Lebron reunion. It does seem like that because now 357 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: I do understand here, and here is where the Nets 358 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: have to be careful, because this is not a situation 359 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: like Ben Simmons asking out with four years left on 360 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: his deal. This is not an Anthony Davis asking out 361 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: even with one year left on his deal. This is 362 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: a player who can be a free agent in Kyrie 363 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 1: Irving right now. So if the Nets are like, we're 364 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 1: not gonna make it, help you out and send you 365 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: to the Laker, he can opt out, be a free 366 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: agent and sign anywhere he wants. And I know people 367 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: are like, oh, only the bad teams have cap space. Man, 368 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: The Lakers can't clear up the capsres without trading Russ, 369 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 1: but other teams can clear up cap space. The Clippers 370 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: could find a way to get Kyrie Irving quickly. The 371 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: Knicks could easily clear up the cap space to sign 372 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: him out right. And if you're the Nets, can you 373 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: if Kyrie goes to you and says, I want you 374 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: to find a way to trade me to Team X, 375 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: and if you don't, I am opting out and I'm 376 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: not asking for a trade anywhere. I am signing with 377 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: the Knicks. Can you deal with that? If you're the 378 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: Nets of losing Kyrie irving to the fucking Knicks across 379 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: the bridge for nothing, I don't think you can. So 380 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 1: I don't think the Nets have leverage the way most 381 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 1: people think they do. The Blazers have leverage, like I 382 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 1: don't know if they would use it if Dame were 383 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: because Dame has been such a good citizen and such 384 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: a great teammate. But he's under contract, right. The Lakers 385 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: have leverage with Anthony Davis, he's under contract. The Nets 386 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: have no leverage with Kyrie because he's not under contract. 387 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 1: If he opts out. And that's a medium, it's interesting, 388 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: it's interesting. I like it. Yeah, I like it a lot. 389 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: I like it a lot. That's a good one. Colin, Okay, 390 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: So let's pivot. So Draymond Green called Nick out. I 391 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: want to run the piece of video we have. We'll 392 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 1: start with this. Let's roll the tape on Draymond Green, 393 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 1: very popular podcast that happens to be on this network. 394 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 1: Of the volume, go ahead. Nick Wright comes out and say, ah, 395 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: Steph Currys, that's it. He'll never see the finals again. 396 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: Andrew Wiggins three years, ninety five million dollars left on 397 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: his deal? Why would they go do that? Worst trade? 398 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: And blah blah blah. I hope you willing to stand 399 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:58,719 Speaker 1: on that word, brother, stand on that and tell us 400 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 1: why you thought that. Tell us why you thought that. 401 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: Tell us why this whole series you've been yapping, yapping 402 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you want to switch 403 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: to the doves. Tell us why, Because what's in question 404 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 1: is your basketball knowledge. Okay, Nick, It is interesting because 405 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 1: obviously I defend Draymond. I thought he was so good 406 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: in the last couple of games of the series. He 407 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: was so Draymond. He was such a catalyst. I always 408 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: argued that the great teams have always had players who 409 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: know exactly what they are. Man who Genobli came off 410 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: the bench, he would have started for twenty seven teams. 411 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 1: He knew exactly what he was. Pippin knew exactly what 412 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: he was, so did Ron Harper. Harper Evert's twenty a 413 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 1: game for the Clippers when he came over, but that's 414 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: not what they needed from him. The great teams have 415 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,239 Speaker 1: these players that could score more, that could do more. Now, 416 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: Draymond's not a great score but I've always felt he 417 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: is the ouncer with the nightclub, and that he controls 418 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: his emotions more than people think he does, and that 419 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: his job is to be a more skilled Rodman. He's 420 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 1: trying to be annoying, and I really think I think 421 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 1: it really really works because when he goes to more 422 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: skilled players and disrupt them like he did with Jalen Brown, 423 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: I thought it was incredibly important. So that's why I 424 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: argue guys like Draymond historically have immense value. All that's true, 425 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: so I want to there's a lot of stuff here, 426 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: address I'm gonna do a rust order. Everything you said 427 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: is true. It is also true that through four finals games, 428 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: he was having arguably the worst finals of any future 429 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. Ever, his Finals is fine. Through four games. 430 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: The first game was, by Basketball References Game score Metric, 431 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: the worst playoff game of his life. His second game 432 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: was he I thought he was actually kind of good. 433 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 1: That was a game where he was totally unhinged, insane 434 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: in it. The third game was the worst game of 435 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: his life by that same metric. His fourth game, he 436 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 1: was so bad his mother called him out on Twitter 437 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: and his coach benched him. Game five, he was really 438 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: good in the first half. In the second half he 439 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 1: had four fouls, fouled out, took zero shots. And then 440 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: in game six he was excellent. He was excellent. He 441 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: was on both ends of the quarter. That's Draymond. That's 442 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: a fair reading of Draymond Green's NBA finals. Okay, that's 443 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 1: the finals. Now we go, you know, we we open 444 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 1: up the aperture. As my buddy Kevin Wilds would say, 445 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: Dromond Greens one of he called himself the greatest defensive 446 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: player ever. That's nonsense. Is he one of the three 447 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: greatest defensive players of his era? Without a doubt? Is 448 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: he a future Hall of Famer without a doubt? Is he, 449 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: in my opinion, more important than Clay Thompson has been 450 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 1: in this Warriors dynastic run. It is close, but yes, 451 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: because I think you can find in this league a 452 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 1: shooter more easily than you can find a guy who's 453 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: gonna do all the little shit Draymond does on offense. 454 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: The offense has gone away this year, but he used to. 455 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: I mean he scored thirty two in Game seven of 456 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: the finals. Dude had thirty two, fifteen and nine and 457 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: earned ten and nine in Game seven of the finals 458 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 1: that they lost to Lebrun. He used to be able 459 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: to score the basketball um and his passing is great, 460 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: and he's a good at times great defender. Now, there 461 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: was a three year stretch where he was the most 462 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: devastating defender in basketball. He won one Defensive Player of 463 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: the Year, finished second to two other years to Kawhi Leonard. 464 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: I came on your show before I even had my 465 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: own show and said Draymond was the best defender of mesball. 466 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: So all that's true about his career. Right. He is 467 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: not the rebounder Rodman was, but he is a better 468 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: offensive player than Rodman was. Modern Rodman is a great 469 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: comp right, Okay, Now to what Draymond said about me, 470 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: I unlike, here's one of the reasons you and I 471 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: get along, Colin. In addition to the many things you 472 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: know that we have in common, here is maybe one 473 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: of the most important. We are two of the only 474 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: members of the media that understand what's good for the 475 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: goose and good for the gander. We make our living 476 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: making bold proclamations, talking a little bit of shit, taking 477 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: a little time at times pointed jabs, and trying to 478 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: trying to literally predict the future. You don't do the 479 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: predict the future stuff as much as I do, but 480 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: you do some of it. Everything about picking a game 481 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: or a champion is predicting the future, which, by the way, 482 00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 1: not possible. You can have informed speculation, and you I 483 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: understand that occasionally we're gonna have big swings and crush 484 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: it over the fence, and occasionally not only we're gonna 485 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: miss the ball. Bat's gonna fly out of our hand 486 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: and hit the old lady in the front row. And 487 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: people are gonna bring that shit up for a couple 488 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: of years, and you gotta take it. My Andrew Wiggins 489 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: take that is gone international. At this point, I was 490 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: getting tweets in Hebrew. It was on. It was on 491 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: kay pop TikTok okay. It has gone international for being 492 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: a bad take. I was wrong, Draymond said, So this 493 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: is my issue with little, Raymond said. Draymond said, I 494 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: hope you stand on it. If I were to ask 495 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: talk to Draymond, I would say, what do you mean 496 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: by stand on it? Like do you mean by admit 497 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: I said it? Like not say that to deep fake? Okay, 498 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: I will stand on that. Are you saying I hope 499 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: you still believe that? Of course they don't still believe 500 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: that I was wrong. Like Andrew Wiggins played better than 501 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: I expected him too. I said I wouldn't ever make 502 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: the finals. They just won the championship. So I can't 503 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: stand on that part of the take it. What I 504 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: said wouldn't happen did happen. So I just missed on it, 505 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: and that happens. The only frustration I have is not 506 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: directed at Draymond, because Draymond is new media and by 507 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: the way, Draymond, I'm not sure where they teach new 508 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,719 Speaker 1: media classes, but if you're gonna be in new media, 509 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: you should probably get some of the stuff right. Like 510 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: when you said, oh, and now you want to switch 511 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: your pick to the Warriors. No, my friend, it was 512 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: actually worse than that. I picked the Warriors. Then I 513 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: switched my pick to Boston, So I was wrong. But 514 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: you were wrong in your new media about what I 515 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: was wrong about. Okay, but here is what it's frustrating 516 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: to me my colleagues, not like Wild's Brew, but like 517 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: general colleague sports media who have shared that two and 518 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: a half year old Andrew Wiggins clip when you know 519 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: how I know that's an old clip because I don't 520 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: have hair and I'm in the studio. It's been two 521 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: and a half fucking years since I've been in the 522 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: studio and since I had a shaved head, So it's 523 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: an old clip. But folks pretending that what I said 524 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: there wasn't mostly consensus opinion really irks me. Andrew Wiggins 525 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: was considered a huge miss and the worst contract in sports. Now, 526 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: the Warriors, to their credit, saw something I did, and 527 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: that's why Bob Myers makes the big bucks. But the 528 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: idea that I was the only person criticizing the Andrew 529 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: Wiggins trade is so ahistorical. But I said this on 530 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: TV today, I'll say it again. I hope everyone has 531 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: their old TikTok's ready to send this to me. In 532 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, I saw the odds championship odds for 533 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: your beloved Warriors. They're the favorites to repeat, man, get 534 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: out of here. They are not winning the title next year. 535 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: By the way, everyone should send everyone associated with the 536 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: Warriors should send edible arrangements and bouquets to Chris Middleton, 537 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: thanking him for being hurt, because if he doesn't get hurt, 538 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: the Bucks kicked the shit out of everybody. Nobody was 539 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: beating Milwaukee, jannest everyone I love. People are like, oh, 540 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: Boston gave Jana's trouble? They did he everge thirty five 541 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: and fifteen? I don't give him that much trouble. So 542 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: there's my rams, there's answer. And by the way, can 543 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: you send Jared his boss? Can you tell him I 544 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: would like to come on the Draymond Green Show? Okay, 545 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: and I will. I will stand on it. Tell him 546 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: that I will come on the show. We can share 547 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: some Lobos tequila. We're both clutch clients. We MAV. MAV 548 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: can be the moderator. We have a lot of things 549 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: in common. Uh. You know, he's got a chirpy mother. 550 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: I've got a chirpy wife. We've got some things that 551 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: we can eid eye on and we can discuss whatever 552 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 1: he wants. He's actually tell him I will. He's actually uh, 553 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:13,320 Speaker 1: he has a He's very coachable. People wouldn't um, you 554 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,320 Speaker 1: wouldn't suspect that being a rich, you know, one hundred 555 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:20,320 Speaker 1: million net worth star. He's as coachable as any athlete 556 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: I've ever had. He's constantly saying, don't don't tell me 557 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 1: how good I am? What do I gotta get better at? 558 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: Which is such a redeemable quality for Well, then you 559 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 1: tell him to take that invisible backpack off when he's 560 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 1: taken three pointers, as you should tell him, be like, hey, Draymond, 561 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: that that little that little white rock you have on 562 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: your back when you're shooting threes. Pretend it's not there. 563 00:34:54,200 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 1: The volume, make sure to check out the dram On 564 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: Green Show. I brought Draymond Green into the volume because 565 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 1: one of the more entertaining voices in sports. Unique perspective 566 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: understands behind the rope also chops up with guests like 567 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 1: Gary Peyton, Zach Levine, Tracy McGrady. Make sure download The 568 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: Draymond Green Show wherever you get your podcasts, only on 569 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: the Volume podcast Network.