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Speaker 1: Davie said he was he was wanting to maybe call

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Speaker 3: Throughout the game. And you know, it's it's awesome because Daves.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna play it by the rule, and that's not

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not to discredit your question again, like.

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Speaker 2: In my mind, we we do have to move on

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Speaker 2: But with that being said, like we're going to be

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Speaker 2: presented with other situations throughout the season that that's again

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Speaker 3: You got to put yourself in this position. It could

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Speaker 3: Okay, this was called. Why put yourself in this play? Call?

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Speaker 3: Why was this called?

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Speaker 2: And I think that's ultimately how you make any scheme

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Speaker 1: Like this is just a last more general question about

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Speaker 1: Dave's and you guys faced early adversity obviously in that

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Speaker 1: an assistant coach, what what did you learn from? What

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Speaker 1: what have you learned and what you learned from about

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Speaker 1: the way Dave's handles adversity stays the even keel or

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Speaker 1: what them or want to use it? Just what's that

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Speaker 3: He has been awesome.

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Speaker 2: He's such a tremendous leader for our team and tremendous

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Speaker 2: leader for coaches too. You know, he empowers you as coach.

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Speaker 2: As a coach, uh, he empowers myself, you know. I

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Speaker 2: think we have a great staff that you know, speaks

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Speaker 2: the same language, and we believe in common things. So

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Speaker 2: whether there be good things, whether it be bad things

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Speaker 2: that happen in a game, there's always healthy discussions because ultimately,

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Speaker 2: Dave's is a competitor.

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Speaker 3: I'm a competitor.

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Speaker 2: We have a team full of competitors, and I'm talking

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Speaker 2: true competitors you know, that aren't motivated by external factors,

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Speaker 2: that want to truly be the best versions of himself,

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Speaker 2: including myself. And I think Daves know is that of me,

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Speaker 2: and I know that of dates, and I think our

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Speaker 2: that of each other because at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: we all want the same thing. So, you know, to

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Speaker 2: our relationship has been awesome because the type of leader

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Speaker 2: he is, you know, and he's giving you feedback throughout

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Speaker 2: whether the game, the week, and he's been around this

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Speaker 2: league for a long time, so you know, tremendous respect

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Speaker 2: for him and love for him, for the opportunity, and

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Speaker 2: you know, look forward to many more good moments.