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Speaker 1: What's up everyone, I'm JJ Stankovitz. Welcome into another episode

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Speaker 1: of the Official Colts Podcast, presented by Win Bat, Matt

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Speaker 1: Taylor's here, Lara Overton's here, the entire Colts team is

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Speaker 1: here for Veteran Mini Camp Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday of this week.

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Speaker 1: We are recording this episode on Tuesday morning to kind

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Speaker 1: of look ahead to Veteran Mini Camp, some things to

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Speaker 1: couple of days, and you can find on Colts dot com,

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Speaker 1: on our social media channels, on the radio with Matt

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Speaker 1: Taylor hosting the Last Word at the end of the week.

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Speaker 1: But we also want to look back at OTAs from

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Speaker 1: last week. Our last week of OTA's before veteran minicamp.

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Speaker 1: A couple things stood out last week just to kind

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Speaker 1: also dropped an absolute dime to Desmond Patman over a

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Speaker 1: he's still got it as a as a quarterback. With

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Speaker 1: really encouraging week for Matt Ryan. Lara, what did you

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Speaker 1: notice watching that practice last week here on fifty six Street, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a few things. I did love to see Matt seemingly

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Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, I think everyone saw, you know,

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Speaker 1: This was not like practice. They were going almost at

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Speaker 1: But the Colts had none of that this time last year.

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Speaker 1: That's a metaphor. The point is Frank Reich has all

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Speaker 1: But then coming back even you know, in better shape,

429
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Speaker 1: and his body's even more in fine tune to be

430
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Speaker 1: the player that Colts need him to be in the

431
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Speaker 1: back end, Mate, do you remember last year or both

432
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Speaker 1: of you during a radio broadcast. I believe it was

433
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Speaker 1: the Tampa game. We reported that Julian tweet tweeted we

434
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Speaker 1: saw Julian on the sideline. He appeared he like at halftime,

435
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 1: came down to the game because he was watching from

436
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Speaker 1: his apartment, and he's like, I can't take it anymore.

437
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 1: I have to be there. And from that point on

438
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,440
Speaker 1: he was on the sidelines of every game, even though

439
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Speaker 1: he could not you know, participate and wasn't cleared and everything.

440
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Speaker 1: He just missed it so much and was like, I'm

441
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Speaker 1: done with this. I'm not watching it on TV. This

442
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Speaker 1: is where I belong. And I think that's such a

443
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 1: testament to his determination and how much he wanted to

444
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Speaker 1: be a factor in whatever way he could, whether it

445
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Speaker 1: was just being a presence on the sideline rallying his teammates.

446
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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it was the Tampa game that you know,

447
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 1: it's a bit of a blur now going back to it,

448
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 1: but I do remember that we were reporting it's like, hey,

449
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 1: Julian Blackman just walked on to the bench at halftime

450
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Speaker 1: of this game, and he's out here obviously in street close.

451
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Speaker 1: But and then from that point on, it was every

452
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Speaker 1: home game he was there for. So that is an

453
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Speaker 1: indication of just his eagerness to return to game action

454
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Speaker 1: and be as available as possible. Quick fun fact about

455
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Speaker 1: Julian Blackman last year, we all know what he can

456
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Speaker 1: do as a rangey ballhawk in the back end. He

457
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Speaker 1: was the seventh highest graded run safety or safety in

458
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Speaker 1: defending the run by Pro Football Focus when he got hurt.

459
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Speaker 1: I mean, and you think about that Week three game

460
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Speaker 1: against the Titans where they didn't let Derrick Henry get

461
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Speaker 1: an inch after contact and Julian Blackman played a huge,

462
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Speaker 1: huge role in that game, and that was when Derrick

463
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Speaker 1: Henry was one hundred percent. So that that that you

464
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Speaker 1: add that to his game, that physical mentality in the

465
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Speaker 1: back end of you know, you're not getting by me.

466
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Speaker 1: You love to see that. One other thing that we're

467
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Speaker 1: going to be looking forward to, maybe not necessarily this week,

468
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Speaker 1: but we're starting to think about training camp. Hey, we

469
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Speaker 1: might have a kicking competition again. Frank frank Reich said

470
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Speaker 1: there's going to be an open competition between Rodrigo Blanketship

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Speaker 1: and Jake Verity. It sounds like it's hot Rods to

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Speaker 1: lose because hot Rod was here last year. Um, but

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Speaker 1: this is interesting. I mean, you know, the Colts did

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Speaker 1: it last year. They brought in Eddie Piniero who had

475
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Speaker 1: a good camp, and then Rodrigo Blanketship also had a

476
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Speaker 1: good camp. None of them missed like at all. So

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Speaker 1: you know, you you like having that. You you always

478
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Speaker 1: want to push your kicker, um, unless you have like

479
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Speaker 1: a Justin Tucker. But even then, Jake Verity spent last

480
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Speaker 1: year on the Baltimore Ravens where they have Justin Tucker.

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Speaker 1: So even if you have the best kicker in the NFL,

482
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Speaker 1: you always want to have someone there to kind of

483
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Speaker 1: keep pushing him. How real is this competition between hot

484
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Speaker 1: Rod and Jake Verity. I think so they meet. I mean,

485
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Speaker 1: Layer you might disagree, but I think it's very real

486
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Speaker 1: considering the Colts sign another kicker that's the first one. Secondly,

487
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 1: when Rod got healthy last season after Week five later

488
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Speaker 1: on in the season, he wasn't inserted back into the lineup,

489
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Speaker 1: despite you know that mid season acquisition with Michael Badgeley.

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Speaker 1: So I think it's real because I think Verity has

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Speaker 1: a lot of upside. He's got a big leg, and

492
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Speaker 1: he spent time with the Ravens last year. As you said,

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Speaker 1: JJ and the Ravens in their understudies at kicker in

494
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Speaker 1: camp with Justin Tucker. That's sort of the equivalent a

495
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Speaker 1: couple of years ago to how things we're here with

496
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Speaker 1: the Colts. Cody Parkey was here, Brandon McManus, Michael Badgeley.

497
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Speaker 1: These are all successful kickers that have made big kicks

498
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Speaker 1: in the NFL, that spent time under Adam VANETERI. So

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Speaker 1: I think the Colts are going to see if they

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Speaker 1: can get a little more juice distance wise from their

501
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Speaker 1: kicker while also remaining accurate, you know, under forty yards.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you, Matate, and I think that this

503
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Speaker 1: is a great opportunity for Rodrigo Blancanship to you know,

504
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Speaker 1: prove where you know, his ceiling, where his potential is,

505
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Speaker 1: if he can extend beyond that range. You know, you

506
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Speaker 1: know exactly what's going to be expected of each of

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Speaker 1: these guys. So it's an opportunity for each of them

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Speaker 1: to rise to the occasion. And also, I mean that's

509
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Speaker 1: what training camp is all about, not just for the

510
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Speaker 1: kicking position, but competition across the keep guys sharp. So

511
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Speaker 1: I mean there were kickers. Badgeley was here when Vinitary

512
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Speaker 1: was here a few years ago, so there is a

513
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Speaker 1: precedent of this type of situation. Obviously, it's it's different.

514
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Speaker 1: It was a different situation with Michael Badgeley and Adam Vinitary, certainly,

515
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Speaker 1: but you have brought kickers in just to reinforce that

516
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Speaker 1: position and have some competition just across all just across

517
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Speaker 1: all all the boards, just across special teams offensively and defensively.

518
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Speaker 1: Here here's a little fun fact about Jake Verity. So

519
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Speaker 1: you spent last year on the Ravens practice squad. There

520
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,959
Speaker 1: have been some pretty good kickers who got their starts

521
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Speaker 1: on the Ravens practice squad. Right, you go back to

522
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Speaker 1: Stephen Haushka and Graham Gono in the Auts. They got

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Speaker 1: their starts. There, Will Lutts, the kicker of the New

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Speaker 1: Orleans Saints. He was on the Ravens practice squad behind

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Speaker 1: Justin Tucker until he wound up in New Orleans. That's

526
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Speaker 1: been kind of a breeding ground for kickers, young kickers

527
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Speaker 1: in the NFL. So don't count out this guy, Jake Verity.

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Speaker 1: Even though you know Rodregal Blanketship has had a lot

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Speaker 1: of success in the NFL, It's not going to be

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Speaker 1: a guarantee that he comes out of this with his job. Also,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you see these guys like working together, you

532
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Speaker 1: know during the special teams periods, are off to the

533
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Speaker 1: side when offense defense are on the field, that type

534
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Speaker 1: of thing. Jake Verity is also a Georgia guy. Grew

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Speaker 1: up in Georgia, as did Rodrigo Blanketship, So I would

536
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Speaker 1: imagine that there is some level of familiarity being that

537
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Speaker 1: they both had such successful high school careers. Georgia massive

538
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Speaker 1: football state. So not that they probably went head to

539
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Speaker 1: head very often, but certainly you know one another when

540
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Speaker 1: you're that close in age, especially probably going to the

541
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: same camps and stuff like that. So when you look

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Speaker 1: at the Colts kicking situation last year, you know, we

543
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Speaker 1: all fell in love with Evan McPherson. Evan kickpherson with

544
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Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals. Did did the Bengals show that you

545
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 1: need to have a weapon from deep and that is

546
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Speaker 1: that something teams should prioritize. I have some thoughts on this,

547
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Speaker 1: but I want to throw it out to you guys first. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, last year McPherson proved that he was, you know,

549
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Speaker 1: one of the five or six biggest weapons. He Actually

550
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: he was one of the prognosticated He was one of

551
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: the more important players, you know, on that team last

552
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: year as they rallied towards the playoffs and went on

553
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Speaker 1: that run to the super Bowl. What he has is

554
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 1: he's got the leg plus the accuracy. He's a rookie.

555
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: Last year, twelve or fourteen over fifty, eight for eleven

556
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Speaker 1: between forty and forty nine, and from Week six on

557
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: he was seventeen of nineteen over forty. So that's consistency

558
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 1: and that just allows you a lot of comfort and

559
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: of affordability from a play caller standpoint, knowing, hey, we

560
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 1: got three points here if we get the ball around

561
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: the thirty five yard line. And contrastly, the Colts have

562
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Speaker 1: made only one kick over fifty in the last two years,

563
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Speaker 1: and I know lot's gone into that. You know, the

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Speaker 1: Cults are a team that goes for it routinely on

565
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Speaker 1: fourth down, and you know, situationally, they just haven't That's

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Speaker 1: what I'm gonna get into. You know, they just haven't

567
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Speaker 1: been in a lot of those spots. But Rodrigo is

568
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Speaker 1: a very solid kicker under forty or between forty and

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Speaker 1: forty nine. Verdy's got that strong leg and he's got

570
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: a lot of upside. He's been working on his accuracy

571
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Speaker 1: from deep. He only made fifty eight percent of his

572
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Speaker 1: kicks over forty in college. But if you just watch

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Speaker 1: him in practice, and if you just watch his film

574
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Speaker 1: from last year in the preseason and going back to college,

575
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Speaker 1: the ball just jumps off his legs. So the potential

576
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Speaker 1: is there. The rawness, if you will, is there. That's

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Speaker 1: why I think it is a kicking competition between these

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Speaker 1: two guys, and we'll see if the Colts can get

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Speaker 1: something out of that again from this stints, but also

580
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: staying accurate because they don't want to They don't want

581
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Speaker 1: to forego Rodrigo's consistency on on the routine kicks. But

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Speaker 1: Evan McPherson last year showed that if you've got a

583
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Speaker 1: weapon in terms of consistency and accuracy from over fifty,

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Speaker 1: that that's one of the more important positions on a

585
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Speaker 1: team that has aspirations of going far in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: You think either of these guys are like calling up

587
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: Vinnie like, Hey, I know you're in town. Do you

588
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: have the little time to get some work in. Well,

589
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: if they wanted to either of them could have bid

590
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,719
Speaker 1: h for the Tyler Trent Foundations one on one training

591
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: session with Adam vina Ary. That was one of the

592
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Speaker 1: silent auction items benefiting of the Tyler Trent Foundation at

593
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: their golf outing this week. They could they could have

594
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: got it for I think it went for about six

595
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: seven hundred bucks, probably for a good cause, because they

596
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: could could have got that if they wanted. So here

597
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Speaker 1: here's my thought on this. It's I think in the

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Speaker 1: playoffs you love to have that that kicker who you

599
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Speaker 1: can say, hey, you know what, if we need a

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Speaker 1: fifty five yard field goal, he can go get it

601
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Speaker 1: to go win a game late though things are pretty

602
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Speaker 1: rare as it comes by, and I love that the

603
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: Colts don't kick a lot of fifty yard field goals.

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Speaker 1: Frank Reich. Last year, the Colts had twenty four plays

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Speaker 1: on fourth down that were between the twenty eight and

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Speaker 1: forty three yard lines, so that would be between a

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Speaker 1: forty five and a sixty yard field goal. Only one

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Speaker 1: of those plays was like obvious, what to do is

609
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Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, you know, and there was a

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Speaker 1: field goal attempt. The Colts only had five other field

611
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Speaker 1: goal tries On those plays, they punted six times, and

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Speaker 1: they ran twelve offensive plays, so half of those plays

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Speaker 1: between what would have been a forty five and sixty

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Speaker 1: yard field goal. Frankreich said, we're going for it. Of

615
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Speaker 1: those twelve plays, the Colts converted eight into first downs.

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Speaker 1: That's two thirds. That's really good. That was eighth best

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Speaker 1: in the NFL among all teams, including those that ran

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Speaker 1: like four or five six plays. In the analytics show, like,

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Speaker 1: what's a better play here? Running a football play or

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Speaker 1: kicking a fifty five yard field goal? So because of that,

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Speaker 1: what's going to be more successful? On those eight conversions?

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Speaker 1: The Colts scored three touchdowns. They wound up still kicking

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Speaker 1: three field goals. They didn't score two times. Those two times,

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Speaker 1: one of them was when JT got stuffed at the

625
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: one yard line against the Jaguars in Week eighteen. The

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Speaker 1: other one was a missed field goal by Michael Badgeley.

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Speaker 1: So if you just kind of look at it, the

628
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Speaker 1: Colts came out ahead points wise because they were so aggressive.

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Speaker 1: The Colts ran the second most plays on fourth down

630
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Speaker 1: between those yard markers in the NFL, behind the Chargers

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Speaker 1: last year, which probably doesn't surprise anyone who watched Brandon

632
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Speaker 1: Staley go forward on like fourth and twenty a bunch

633
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,479
Speaker 1: from his zone twenty right. But you know what, like

634
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Speaker 1: the analytics, this is a great thing about analytics and

635
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Speaker 1: football is that it is pushing more coaches to be

636
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Speaker 1: aggressive in those situations because, like you said, Mattey, the

637
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: value of running a football play is higher ultimately than

638
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Speaker 1: attempting a long field goal, of which last year there

639
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: were three hundred field goal attempts between forty five and

640
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Speaker 1: sixty yards. Seventy percent of them were good, and the

641
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: Colts only made forty percent of those field goals. So

642
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: I think this is something I saw it a lot

643
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: last year of fans saying, hey, just take the points,

644
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: take the points, take the points. That's not how football

645
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: coaches are thinking these days. It's not how they should

646
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: be thinking. The forward thinking coaches like Frank Wreik in

647
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: the NFL are going to be more aggressive and trust

648
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: their offense when it comes to fourth down more than

649
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: they're gonna say, all right, let's go get three points.

650
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: That's a good thing about the way the game is going,

651
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: and Frank w Reik is really on the cutting edge

652
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: of that, without question, without questions, So I think it

653
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: does sort of boil down to situational football. I think

654
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: there is a balance though. You know, if you're in

655
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: a two minute drill and you've got somebody you can

656
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: rely on that can hit you a fifty five yard

657
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: field goal when the game is tied or when you're

658
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: down one or two points, I think there's something to that.

659
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: I think that's why McPherson for the Bengals, going back

660
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: to that analogy that we used earlier, became such a

661
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: weapon and one of their best players to be honest

662
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: with you during their run of the Super Bowl. So

663
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: I think the cults are have been a good blend

664
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: of we want to be forward thinking, we want to

665
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: be aggressive, we want to play the odds, but it

666
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: is nice to have a guy that has a little

667
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: pop in that right leg that you can trust to

668
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: hit you a fifty yard fuel goal in the in

669
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: a two minute drill in crunch time in the fourth quarter.

670
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: So we'll see how it plays out between Verity and

671
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: Blanket Ship. I think that's going to be one of

672
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: the more hotter, if you will, camp battles that we

673
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: see at Grand Park coming up in lead July. A

674
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,719
Speaker 1: lot to talk about when we get up to Grand Park. Certainly, Um,

675
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna have another episode of the Official Cults Podcast

676
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: in this radio studios is a park in August right now,

677
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: by the way. So yeah, we're gonna wrap up Veteran

678
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: Minicamp next week, maybe in a more air conditioned setting

679
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: here on the Official Cults Podcast. But we got a

680
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: couple of other things to get to before we wrap this.

681
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: You doing in here? Are you like smoking meats? Been

682
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: speaking of It's been like, let's go to the mail

683
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 1: like that for twelve years. Here's the mail. It never

684
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: fills and makes me want to like my tail plans.

685
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: Whatever temperature it is outside is the temperature in here.

686
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: It's plus just all of us are blowing hot air

687
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: for forty seve minutes podcast speaking of blowing hot air.

688
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: Our Twitter mail bad question of the Week comes from

689
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: White Soldier on Twitter. Is it's still a barbecue if

690
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: you're only gas grilling or are smoked meats required to

691
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: be classified as a barbecue? This is an existential question.

692
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,919
Speaker 1: Oh man, I don't think that's the case. I think

693
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 1: you can barbecue and grill without well, I guess this

694
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: is just about barbecue. So does barbecue need to be smoked?

695
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: Is the question. I've always thought that in my head,

696
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: barbecue is if you're going to barbecue, you need to

697
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: make barbecue, like of the barbecue family. So if you

698
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: say I'm gonna go barbecue something, you need to be

699
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: making pork or brisket or ribs. There's a difference between

700
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:13,439
Speaker 1: barbecuing and grilling, is what you're saying. Okay, if someone's like, hey,

701
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 1: come over for a barbecue and they got like burgers

702
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: and brots and hot dogs on the grill, are you

703
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: like tossing the challenge flag like this? I have been

704
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: bad if I if I was hosting a party and

705
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: I wanted to differentiate the two, I would say, l

706
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: come on over for a cookout. And then if if

707
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: I said come over for a barbecue, I think in

708
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: your head it would be reasonable to have the expectation

709
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: of a barbecue platter, you know, brisket, ribs, so on

710
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: and so forth. Oh I like that. I like that

711
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: come on over for a cookout could be whatever you

712
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 1: throw on the grill. That's That's what I always say.

713
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: I just I'm always really appreciate if anyone who invites

714
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: me over for free food and uh, you know fellowships.

715
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: So you know I'm not going What are you to

716
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 1: a cookout? Then? What are you? What's what? Whatever you

717
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: tell me to bring? I don't know. You need like

718
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: a you need a dessert? You NEI a salad? Do

719
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 1: you need some sort of a side? I don't know.

720
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: I bring you a a little mac and cheese if you like, Hey,

721
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: check to bring whatever you want to a cook out?

722
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 1: What do you bring in? Okay? So I make this

723
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,240
Speaker 1: thing called so it's like an appetizer. It's called Texas

724
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: caviar um. And an ex boyfriend's mom taught me how

725
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: to make it and it yes, I know, and she's awesome.

726
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: And it is something that I started making because I

727
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 1: learned from her late in college and I like my

728
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: girlfriends will request it and now they make it to

729
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 1: take to the other things too. So it's like a dip.

730
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: So a lot of times I'll bring that because it

731
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: is now I'm giving away secrets here. Okay. So it's

732
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: a sweet corn, black beans, um, dice up a little

733
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: bell pepper. I like to go red, orange, yellow, um,

734
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: and then you do some hallapenos to give it a

735
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: little kick. You can dice up the hall penos. I

736
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 1: also like to do La hallpino juice, and then you

737
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: need the wishbone at Towellian Dressing and you let it

738
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: all marinade overnight and then like drain some of the

739
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: top off and you serve it with like a scoop,

740
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: like a Tostito's scoop. So that's probably my go to signature.

741
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: Whether it's a barbecue or a cookout, this covers all basis.

742
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: I'm also gonna say I would call anything a barbecue

743
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 1: because I also call everything coke like if I'm like,

744
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 1: you know, like it's like I'm not gonna say do

745
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: you want would you like a pop? No, It's just

746
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: like you want a coke like. So I don't know,

747
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: maybe maybe I'm being too generalization. I think if you

748
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 1: were to say to me, come over for a cookout,

749
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: in my head, my expectation would be burgers, dogs, brots.

750
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,479
Speaker 1: Speaking of Mattee, you know, we're into just the first

751
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: week of June and you've not invited me over for

752
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: a cookout yet this summer, and that's something that you

753
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: know we tend to do. So shoot, all right, all right,

754
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 1: challenge accepted, and I'll go. Although meat is expensive. Now

755
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: if we could have a chip in that would be great.

756
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: The bottom line, I go every time I go to

757
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: market district, I go to the sale meat section because

758
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: it's like the stuff that they can't sell beyond the

759
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: day h you know there, So like I'll buy like

760
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: they've they've had these great deals on stakes recently. I'll

761
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: just buy him throwing the freezer. So I'm loaded up

762
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: on meat. Maybe I should have the cook out. I

763
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: will tell you my neighbor is a very very impressive

764
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: um smoker. I don't even know what this thing is.

765
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 1: I don't know what brand it is, but he sets

766
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 1: this thing out in his gun. Sometimes it's in his driveway.

767
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's out back on his deck. That's the big

768
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: smoker brand. Yeah, no, it's it's I know, it's not

769
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: a tragger. That's that's a that's a good idea though. Um.

770
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: I don't know what brand it is. But man, he

771
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 1: is talented and he watches this thing. I mean he'll

772
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: start it on Thursday night and have that thing ready

773
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: to go for Saturday at lunch or for Saturday for dinner.

774
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: And he's smoking a smoking wings ribs, brisk get short ribs.

775
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 1: I mean he's very, very talented, and so like that's

776
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: why I really don't have a lot of incentive to

777
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: go get a smoker a because I don't have the

778
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: time nor the patients that this guy does. But he's

779
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: right across the street and he's very generous, and I

780
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: just walk over and I eat very well, you know,

781
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 1: between May and in August. I'm just picturing like you

782
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: know in the cartoons when like you got the window

783
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 1: open and they have this kind of like that's exactly

784
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: what it is, coming in nostrils. And he goes and

785
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: then just walks right out the pack, goes across the street.

786
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: Hey what are you? What are you smoking? Can I

787
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 1: have There's just there's just something about that smell. Walks

788
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 1: over with this little platter. But I'm I'm a Blackstone

789
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: propane guy, So I know I'm probably offending a lot

790
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: of people in my um complacency for grilling. Eg I

791
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 1: just like it fast when I'm hungry, I need to eat.

792
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: I got two kids, dinner time. It needs to be

793
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 1: done with Taylor fat meat. I say, I'm a gas

794
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 1: grill guy. I thought I would always be a charcoal

795
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 1: guy because that's who my dad was. I know. I

796
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: don't know how my dad ever had time to like

797
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 1: heat up the coals and then get them the right

798
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 1: temperature and then put the I'm just like, give me

799
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: the grill where it's warm in about three four minutes.

800
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 1: I don't have three hours for dinner. No, I don't.

801
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,439
Speaker 1: That was good. I think we This was a good

802
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: question that made me think a lot about how I

803
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 1: go about grilling. Semantics and semantics of the next couple

804
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 1: of weeks where I'm gonna be grilling a lot. Yeah,

805
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: but I'm not going to be having a barbecue. Mate,

806
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 1: Let's go to your random thought of the week. Play

807
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: the jingles maytas random Thought o the Week? And why

808
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: is the carpet all? Went Todd? I don't know, Marco.

809
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: You guys going out of town do if it's cold there?

810
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: For these vans? Get good cash? Milan off shot off, Guys.

811
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 1: I want to know did summertime and concert season is here? Lara?

812
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 1: What's your favorite concert you've ever been to? Um and

813
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: actually went to a concert On Sunday night, I took

814
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: my dad to a little show at Rock the Ruins

815
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: at Holiday Park, which is incredible. If anyone who is

816
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: local to Central Indiana if you have an opportunity to go,

817
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: it's it's fantastic. Um favorite concert I've ever been to.

818
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: You guys know, I love The Killers, and my husband

819
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: and I a few years ago got to see Brandon Flowers,

820
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 1: the lead singer of The Killers. He was on a

821
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 1: solo tour, played at a place in Columbus, Ohio, very

822
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: similar to the very similar to the Vogue if you

823
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: know the Vogue Theater in broad Ripple Spot, Columbus is

824
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: just like that. And then afterward we were out back

825
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: and ended up on the tour bus meeting Brandon Flowers.

826
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: Just incredible experience. The concert was already phenomenal, and then

827
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: we topped it off by actually getting to like meet

828
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: him and talk with him in shake hands with him

829
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 1: for a few minutes. So that is hands down best

830
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,280
Speaker 1: concert experience I've ever gone to. I mean, the concert

831
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: was incredible, but also just the significance and the fact

832
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 1: that we were able to do that together for awesome.

833
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 1: JJ I want to talk about the concert that let

834
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: me down? Oh oh, I can go there too, because

835
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: this is also on the rundown as part of your

836
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 1: your random thoughts. So yeah, a couple of years ago

837
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: we my friends and I in Chicago. We noticed that

838
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: one of our favorite rappers from our childhood was playing

839
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: a show at a bar in the suburbs, just like

840
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 1: some you know, random bar. They got a stage. It

841
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: was jaw Rule. I love who doesn't Well, several people

842
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: who went to the Firefest not anymore. We we lived

843
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: in the city of Chicago at the time. This show

844
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: was at the I think it was called the base

845
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 1: Camp bar in Lyle, Illinois, which is not close to

846
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 1: downtown Chicago. So we're like, you know what, I didn't

847
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: see jot Rule playing like Wineca or anything. Well, Lyle, Illinois, it's,

848
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: you know, just a normal western suburb. Got a lot

849
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: of Fisher's vibes out there. We're talking like thirty minutes

850
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: forty minutes. It's probably about thirty five forty minutes to

851
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: get out there. But we said, yeah, we're all going

852
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 1: out there. It's a group of twelve of us. We're

853
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: going to a job Rule concert. Let's rent a limo.

854
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: How funny would that be to rent a limo and

855
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: go to a jaw Rule concert at some bar in

856
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: the suburbs. About the show starts at seven pm. We're like,

857
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 1: all right, he's gonna get on at ten. Let's get

858
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: the limo from six thirty to twelve thirty. So that's

859
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: you know, six hours or paying for it. It was

860
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: honestly cheaper than taking ubers out right there. Oh yeah.

861
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: But we're like, well it'll be we'll be done by

862
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: twelve thirty. And we're like, not that much fun anymore.

863
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 1: We're not going to be out that much later than

864
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: twelve thirty. So we get to this bar and we,

865
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: you know, we we start, you know, hanging out seven o'clock.

866
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: Some opening X come on around eight, nine o'clock, ten o'clock,

867
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: eleven o'clock, still no jaw Rule. Twelve o'clock, still no

868
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: jaw Rule. The limo is going to be here in

869
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: thirty minutes. Twelve twenty nine, limos here, Still no jaw Rule.

870
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: So two of our friends stayed behind because they're like,

871
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: we're here. We like, I'm I'm going to jaw Rule

872
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: play a song. They're like, I've been I've been invested.

873
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: He got it. We got in the limo and left

874
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: without even seeing jaw Rule. At the concert that we

875
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 1: were gonna see jaw Rule at, they said he came

876
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: on stage at one Am for a seven pm concert.

877
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 1: They saw him play Living it Up and then they left.

878
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 1: But so I probably played for like forty five minutes. Probably,

879
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: So I went to see jaw Rule at a bar

880
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 1: in the Chicago suburbs and didn't even see job Rule

881
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:07,240
Speaker 1: play job Role in the year twenty nineteen or twenty eighteen,

882
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 1: whenever it was. It doesn't matter he job Rule cannot

883
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: hold a crowd back six hours. What was the turnout like?

884
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 1: Was it pretty packed? Yeah? It or at least a

885
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: like ten it was. I think it was packed with

886
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 1: like some people who really wanted to be there and

887
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: a lot of people who are like it'd be kind

888
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: of funny to see job Rules the Firefest documentary and

889
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: then didn't get to see it. Oh my god. I

890
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: mean that's on brand, though, I guess with this fixtremely

891
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 1: it was the fire Festival in a microcosmoor stranded on

892
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 1: an island. My worst is not anything compared to that

893
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 1: my worst And I might get a lot of hate

894
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 1: tweets for this, but Dave Matthews always does two nights

895
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: at ruoff Fear Creek Clips whatever you want to call it,

896
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 1: in Noblesville, and I picked the wrong night to go,

897
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 1: like he played all the good stuff, and I'm not

898
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: like a massive Dave Matthews fan, Like I was kind

899
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: of like, okay, like in college, it was cool, good,

900
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: So I went because it was like everyone goes to

901
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: Dave Matthews, I like, and I got the wrong so

902
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: it was just like a bunch of stuff that I

903
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 1: didn't really know, whereas the other night had all of

904
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: the things, so that it was just a disappoint My

905
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: favorite Dave Matthews story, um casey hates me by the

906
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: way he is booing me from across. I'm not a

907
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,720
Speaker 1: big Dave Matthews fan. The thing that I will always

908
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: think of when I hear Dave Matthews band is him

909
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: emptying the septic take of his tour bus onto a

910
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: tour boat on the Chicago River. Are you serious? Yeah?

911
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: Look it up. Oh man, did you witness this line? No,

912
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: I didn't witness it, but I read the sea. Did

913
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 1: he know what he's doing? Oh? Probably? I mean I

914
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: don't think Dave. I don't think Dave Matthews was sitting

915
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: there and be like dump all this these people. But yeah,

916
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: that's that's unfortunate. Yeah. Over the Kinsey River Street bridge

917
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: in Chicago, a tour bus belonging to Dave Matthews Band

918
00:45:55,800 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: dumped and estimated eight hundred pounds of human wayman's stuff

919
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: from the bus a septic tank onto a passengers sightseeing

920
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: boat on the Chicago River at the place, at the

921
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: wrong time. Okay, what about you. I've seen some really

922
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: good shows. My favorite content I knew it. It was

923
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: Tom Petty in twenty thirteen, fantastic show at clips I

924
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: think at the time. Concert that let me down was

925
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: two thousand and four. Van Halen, uh Eddie van Halen.

926
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: Not to get too deep, but he was in a

927
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: he was in a bad place then, and you could

928
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 1: tell he was not of the right mind to be

929
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 1: on stage and did not play well, and it sort

930
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 1: of sort of ruined the whole show, to be honest

931
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:43,919
Speaker 1: with you. And it was a it was a big

932
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 1: it was a big hype show, right, it was a reunion,

933
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: Let's get Sammy Hagar back, and I mean it was

934
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: a sold out show and it just didn't sound very good.

935
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: Valerie Burton ell either, I think they were still I

936
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: think they were still together. I don't you know. He

937
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,320
Speaker 1: was in he was in and out of rehab for

938
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: various things, so he was still going through some stuff,

939
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 1: so it sort of ruined the sound of the show.

940
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: But j G. I think in twenty fourteen I saw

941
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: Guns and Roses at Banker's Life field House now Gambridge

942
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: field House. Yeah, and they Axel did not take the

943
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: stage until one am that night, which I was like,

944
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 1: I was not prepared for even before kids. He is

945
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 1: the gravitas to do that. I don't know, if maybe

946
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: not then, though maybe not then at one point absolutely yes. Also,

947
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:32,760
Speaker 1: did you know he's from Lafiette, Indiana. Yeah, yeah, Lafia, Jeff,

948
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 1: Is that that's right? Yeah? Yeah, but one am and

949
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 1: I stayed for the first half of the show and

950
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:39,439
Speaker 1: then I was out of there. I was in bed

951
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,800
Speaker 1: by the time that show ended. Yeah, I don't know.

952
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: Once once I got above the age of about twenty six,

953
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: staying out past midnight just not a thing I did

954
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: that much, you know. One Well, I'm just gonna go

955
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: off to the still on topic, but a little quick

956
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: deviation and then we can wrap this up. But a

957
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: concert I was not expecting to enjoy that really impressed me.

958
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: My mom and I from from my twenty first birthday

959
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: went out to Las Vegas together. My parents were very

960
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 1: nicely took us, you know, on on these trips for

961
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 1: our twenty first to commemorate it. And she really wanted

962
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 1: to go to Selene Dion And this was not, of course,

963
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:10,919
Speaker 1: the coolest thing I wanted to do on my twenty

964
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: first birthday in Vegas with my mom. But we went

965
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: and it was incredible, of course, of course, So I

966
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: will say, if you like that talent, yeah, I mean,

967
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,479
Speaker 1: like if you're not a Selene Deon, like just all

968
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: of it was was really impressive. So if you find

969
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 1: yourself in Las Vegas, go see Selene Dion before the

970
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: Colts play the Raiders. Yeah, I don't know. She was great.

971
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: She was really really good. So back when we're in

972
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. Oh, yes, I'll get the tickets. We'll jack,

973
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 1: we'll rack jeff I want to sit next to Jeffrey

974
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: during Selene Dion show. I'll know every word. You will

975
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: every word, wouldn't wouldn't, wouldn't doubt it? All right, We'll

976
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,760
Speaker 1: coming up this week on the Colts Audio Network Tuesday

977
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: through Thursday, so that is today through Thursday. We're gonna

978
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: have one on one interviews with Colts players during veteran

979
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: Minicamp on Friday, The Last Word will break down and

980
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 1: recap cults, rookie, our veteran MANI camp, excuse me, and

981
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: the interity of the offseason workout program. I'm gonna have

982
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: some recaps on colts dot com of the off season

983
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 1: program next week, so keep an eye out for those.

984
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: And then we're all gonna We're still gonna be here

985
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,879
Speaker 1: every Tuesday, but we're all gonna kind of pop out,

986
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,439
Speaker 1: take some time off here and there over the next

987
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 1: couple of weeks until we reconvene for training camps, so

988
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: everyone can do your respective grilling or barbecuing. I will

989
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 1: be doing You're in thrilling again. No barbecuing. I can't

990
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: smoke me down out of that time. Um, that's gonna

991
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 1: be it for this podcast though. So thanks for listening

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Speaker 1: stop even during the offseason dead period in June and July. Anyways,

998
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: for Matt Taylor. I'm Laara Overton. I'm unlike jaw Rule.

999
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: We'll be here. Yes, unlike jaw Rule, we will be here.

1000
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 1: It's funny because jo role as a song called always

1001
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: on Time, and he was just not on time for

1002
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: that show. That's the last thing I'm gonna say here

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00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 1: on the Colts Official Podcast presented by Windbet. Thank you

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