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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with our radio. Let's make podcasts sister today. I'm Ben. Hey,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the Almost Famous podcast on I Heart Radio. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we have one of my favorite people ever and the

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Speaker 1: Bachelor franchise. We're gonna make podcast history right now with

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Speaker 1: this interview. Andrew fire Stone welcome. Oh my goodness, it

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Speaker 1: is going to be making podcast history. The first time

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Speaker 1: that anyone's ever dialed in on a rotary phone. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we just talked over each other totally right there. It's alright, Andrew,

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Speaker 1: because Bobby is that same joke already, So you too,

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Speaker 1: grandpas can have time to get God. Well, he's older

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Speaker 1: than I am even sell listen, I give him swirlies

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Speaker 1: all the time. Um. So wait, Andrew, tell us a

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Speaker 1: little bit here. You how how do hands know? You

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Speaker 1: catch us up to who Andrew Firestone is? So? I

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Speaker 1: was on the Bachelor back in two thousand and three,

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Speaker 1: and uh, so I I know you guys weren't even

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Speaker 1: born yet. Um, and it was. I was the third

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Speaker 1: iteration of the Bachelor, so um it was. The first

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Speaker 1: was Aaron and sorry, uh, the second was Alex's first.

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Speaker 1: Aaron was second, and then I was I was after

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Speaker 1: I was after that starts it does? I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was just waking up from my afternoon nap, so

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Speaker 1: I was I was on the show a long long

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Speaker 1: time ago. And um, and yeah that was that. That

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Speaker 1: think at that point the show had kind of started

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Speaker 1: people following it and watching it. And um, it was

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Speaker 1: it was. It was pretty wild. Um, you know, being

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Speaker 1: a twenty six year old kid, you know, get a

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Speaker 1: chance to run around with twenty five girls. Uh, it

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Speaker 1: was pretty It was pretty insane because nobody knew what

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Speaker 1: was going to happen. Is your season on like iTunes?

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Speaker 1: I think they're all on iTunes? You were twenty six.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty young for a bachelor. Ben was six? Is

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Speaker 1: that is that right? Yeah? I might have just starting

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Speaker 1: the mass backwards. But you know, that's funny. I didn't

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Speaker 1: because I've never really seen it anywhere. I have like

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Speaker 1: literally old DVD copies of it that my mom you know,

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Speaker 1: mortified to know that it still exists and it still lives. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure we could find a lot. I would do

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Speaker 1: anything to watch Tina fabulous again. Just talking about being fabulous.

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Speaker 1: You guys got it. Everybody's gotta dig back and watch

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Speaker 1: these old episodes. They're like nothing you can imagine. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was I've I was convinced my kids and my

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Speaker 1: uh in existence. So I need to pay more money

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Speaker 1: to to Apple to get that you know burned. Before

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Speaker 1: we catch up on your your life now, Ashton, I

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Speaker 1: have a few questions for you still about your life

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Speaker 1: as the Bachelor. So can we tap back about twenty

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Speaker 1: years ago? So on your time in the batchelor? Did

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Speaker 1: you get engaged? I did? I did? Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: we we have to catch up a little bit on

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Speaker 1: some recent Bachelor news. We spoke about it two weeks ago. UM,

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Speaker 1: one of the former producers from the Bachelor franchise, UM

456
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Speaker 1: make claims against some of the producers on the show

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Speaker 1: for sexual harassment, and and during that you and I

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Speaker 1: both uh did not know a lot about it. Our

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Speaker 1: our episode was kind of tape on the day it

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Speaker 1: came out, and so to get the most info we could,

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Speaker 1: we reached out to Ashley from the Hollywood Reporter, which

462
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Speaker 1: also was with us during the Karen and Tomorrio situation,

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Speaker 1: and we have her back today to kind of catch

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Speaker 1: us up on everything current with these claims. Actually you're

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Speaker 1: out there, Hi, Welcome back to the Almost Famous podcast.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for having me so kind of like

467
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Speaker 1: we did last time, can you just catch us up

468
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Speaker 1: on everything that's happened with this producer and the show

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Speaker 1: since the last time we talked okay. So the latest

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Speaker 1: claim comes from back Eastinhoak, who worked on the franchise

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Speaker 1: on a couple of different shows, and she says that

472
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Speaker 1: she was harassed at work by some of the producers

473
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Speaker 1: on the series who were asked in her very graphic

474
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Speaker 1: questions about her personal life, specifically about her sex life

475
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Speaker 1: that she was uncomfortable with, and when she complained about it,

476
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Speaker 1: she was um not hired back for another season. So

477
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Speaker 1: she's doing for wrongful termination and a bunch of other claims,

478
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Speaker 1: basically saying that you know, she was retaliated against for

479
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Speaker 1: bringing up her complaints, and so since that has been public,

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Speaker 1: what has happened? I know I saw as I was

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Speaker 1: kind of preparing for this. She has done a couple interviews.

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Speaker 1: I started with The l A Times and also Megan Kelly.

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Speaker 1: What has been said during those interviews Basically she's echoing

484
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Speaker 1: a lot of the stories from her complaints, just it's

485
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Speaker 1: in her own words instead of in her attorneys. So

486
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Speaker 1: she basically says she knew sex is a part of

487
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Speaker 1: this show, but she didn't expect that to extend to

488
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Speaker 1: personal questions about her life behind scenes. I want to ask,

489
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Speaker 1: because I was listening to actually a radio show UM

490
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Speaker 1: a few weeks back, and and so what she says

491
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Speaker 1: is that some of the preachers on the show were

492
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Speaker 1: very personal in asking her questions about her sex life,

493
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Speaker 1: about her personal life, and she felt uncomfortable and at

494
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Speaker 1: the moment, and I just needed I want to get

495
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Speaker 1: a little clarity when it comes to your workplace environment

496
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Speaker 1: when you start to feel uncomfortable, is that terms for

497
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Speaker 1: sexual harassment or what exactly? How do you define that?

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Speaker 1: It depends. It's actually a pretty complicated issue. Warner Brothers

499
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Speaker 1: has been here before. About a decade ago, an assistant

500
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Speaker 1: on Friends filed a kind of similar lawsuit where she

501
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 1: said she was uncomfortable with a lot of the very

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Speaker 1: sexual conversations that were happening in the Friends rider room,

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Speaker 1: and that case actually made it up to the California

504
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Speaker 1: Supreme a word, and there they said that, you know,

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Speaker 1: state law doesn't necessarily outlaw vulgar language or conduct that

506
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Speaker 1: offends someone. But the major difference between that situation and

507
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Speaker 1: this situation is the woman who suited over Friends, none

508
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Speaker 1: of the comments were directed at her, she was just

509
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Speaker 1: witnessing them, whereas in this case, these comments were directed

510
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Speaker 1: at Becky and it seems like, um, once they realized

511
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Speaker 1: she was embarrassed by them and uncomfortable by them, it

512
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Speaker 1: sort of became kind of a game. But that doesn't

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Speaker 1: necessarily mean that it rises to the level of sexual her.

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Speaker 1: And that's also the version of the story, just to

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Speaker 1: be clear, that's her version, whereas the other version is

516
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Speaker 1: totally different. Hey and Ashley, Um, I'm assuming things are

517
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Speaker 1: going to get even murkier on a show like The Bachelor,

518
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Speaker 1: where it's a kind of a family environment. You get

519
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Speaker 1: to be really close friends with the cast, You're traveling

520
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Speaker 1: with them, you're living with them for like two months

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Speaker 1: in different hotel rooms on a whole bunch of planes.

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Speaker 1: So like it's a weird place where work and friendship

523
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: in life kind of all merge into one. I'm also

524
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: curious about on the clock, off the clock? Does that

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Speaker 1: impact anything that's interesting because I don't I don't know

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Speaker 1: if they're ever off the clock, if they're like in

527
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Speaker 1: a hotel room, because we're kind of seven production. Actually,

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Speaker 1: what do you what do you think? So we have

529
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Speaker 1: a few questions questions. I know we're thrown out you

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Speaker 1: there is the enirement of the family kind of style.

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Speaker 1: You're living together. Does that change things? Is there an

532
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Speaker 1: issue with when you're working when you're not working? Can

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Speaker 1: you kind of dissect that? Well, you can make the

534
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Speaker 1: argument that if you're dealing with a supervisor, you're never

535
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 1: off the clock in terms of employment based claims when

536
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: you're with that person, um, just because of the power

537
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 1: dynamic there. So I'm sure someone would argue that even

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Speaker 1: if this was made, you know, at a at a

539
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Speaker 1: restaurant when everybody was on a dinner break or whatever,

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Speaker 1: that she could potentially make an argument that, yeah, but

541
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Speaker 1: these people were still my bosses and it was still

542
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Speaker 1: in appropriate. But at the same time, Warner Brothers said

543
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: that they investigated her clients, they took it seriously, and

544
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: they found nothing wrong. Um. So it's interesting. This is

545
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 1: going to be a really fun one to watch. Unfortunately,

546
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 1: we're not going to get to watch any of it

547
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: because they've already filed emotion to move this into arbitration,

548
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 1: or they've made a request with an arbitrator to handle

549
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 1: the case. Fright. Megan Kelly addressed that on her show

550
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: that when you're an employee, a lot of cases you

551
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: agree to arbitration in in incidents like this, Yeah, in

552
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: almost every case. What does that mean. It means that

553
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: any fights have to be made behind closed doors in

554
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: front of an arbitrator who's usually a retired judge, that

555
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: keeps everything out of the public eye, including the result.

556
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: Those results are generally confidential also, and these provisions are

557
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Speaker 1: inserted into just about every entertainment employment contract, and people

558
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: agree to them because they have to, because if you

559
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: don't want to do your job, there are a hundred

560
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: people staying behind you who want to do it and

561
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Speaker 1: will agree to sign this. I have a question about

562
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Speaker 1: sexual assault and sexual harassment lawsuits. Um. Warner Brothers, of

563
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: course said that there's no proof. When is there ever

564
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: proof in this particular case, when we're dealing with harassment.

565
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,479
Speaker 1: It wasn't two people alone in a room, so this

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Speaker 1: isn't that, he said. She said, there were plenty of witnesses,

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Speaker 1: so obviously, unless it's one of these things was caught

568
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Speaker 1: plunks video, there's not like definitive outside proof. But I'm

569
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Speaker 1: guessing that the other people in the room, the balance

570
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: is going to tip to one side or the other. Okay,

571
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: so not to back check too much, but you said

572
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: Warner Brothers investigated the situation. They claim that there was

573
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Speaker 1: no wrongdoing. Um what is that? I mean? I guess

574
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Speaker 1: without going like what does that mean? What are they

575
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Speaker 1: saying happen? Then that these questions were asking it was okay,

576
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: these questions were never asked. Um, there is no uncomfortability

577
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: like you know she was let let go? Uh in fairness?

578
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: Like what what exactly if you break that down, what

579
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: do they claiming happening? My guests would be and this

580
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: is just a guest based on how past claims like

581
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: these have gone, is that they determined that any of

582
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: these conversations that happened were part of the job. You're

583
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Speaker 1: dealing with a show that deals with sex, and it

584
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,239
Speaker 1: makes sense for the creative people who work on that

585
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: show to talk about sex. Obviously, we're talking about reality

586
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: TV and not a scripted series here, Um, so it's

587
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: a little bit different. But I think that is probably

588
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: what they discovered is Okay, we're dealing with a show

589
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: about sexual relationships. It is it's not far afield for

590
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Speaker 1: our producers to talk about sexual relationships while we're being

591
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Speaker 1: on the show. Okay, it's again, you know, we kind

592
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Speaker 1: of go back. Remember we're talking about the krin Indamorro

593
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Speaker 1: situation and everything that's kind of surrounding this franchise right now. Uh,

594
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: like you said, we might not hear anything else about

595
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: this for months, We might never hear anything about this again.

596
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: So the public really will really will just uh know

597
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: the claims that we may see these interviews, and now

598
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: everything is going to be settled outside the public eye

599
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: and we'll just be moving forward. The franchise wants to

600
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: move forward, I would assume so. But because the people

601
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: who run shows like these aren't new at this, they're

602
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: very experienced, I would bet that there are some protocol

603
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: changes to keep something from like this from happening again.

604
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Speaker 1: Even if they say there was no wrongdoing, they will

605
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Speaker 1: probably make some sort of an effort to clearly spell out,

606
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Speaker 1: you know, what kind of sexual conversations are okay within

607
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Speaker 1: the workplace, or are all of them, and make sure

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Speaker 1: that people fully understand that before taking a job on

609
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Speaker 1: the show. I mean, we can only hope, um that

610
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Speaker 1: when it comes to the workplace, where it comes to

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Speaker 1: life in general, that we can all be respectful of

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Speaker 1: each other's feelings and beliefs and values and morals um

613
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,960
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614
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Speaker 1: has been a very um hot topic. It's it's been

615
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616
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Speaker 1: us to try out for, these sponsors will be on

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Speaker 1: the same email message and the one time mass is

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Speaker 1: like what kind of design do you want? I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I want solids, and Ben's like I would like the

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Speaker 1: Polka dots and I'm like, okay, so I know that

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Speaker 1: Ben's wearing pocon dot underwear. Yeah. The feeling of me

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Speaker 1: and you're going to feel famous in your enderwear. You

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Speaker 1: know Mends. I bought some undis a few years ago

663
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Speaker 1: when I was on the Bachelor. Ap you didn't buy them?

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Speaker 1: They get Yeah, they they gave it to and I

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Speaker 1: m but but then, But I just know this because

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Speaker 1: there have been both of our swag bags, and ever

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Speaker 1: since I got in my swag bag, I've been like,

668
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Speaker 1: holy moly, I still wear mine and I have a

669
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Speaker 1: hole in it. But I got I passed some of

670
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Speaker 1: the pairs onto my friends. Yeah, it's one of them

671
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Speaker 1: to my mom. Products that I've given to my friends

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00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 1: that they've gone out. They bought more of themselves and

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Speaker 1: told their friends, so they're advertising it themselves now. But

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Speaker 1: I want to tell you, and I want me Andy's

675
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Speaker 1: to reach out to us. I do have a question

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Speaker 1: for him. The underwear in socks, I both. I owned

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Speaker 1: them both, and they're not my favorite product that I

678
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Speaker 1: have with me Andy's. It's their relaxing pants, and and

679
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Speaker 1: they're not in this ad. And I want to know

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Speaker 1: does me Anddi still make the relaxing pants, because if

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Speaker 1: they do, we got to promote them. I'm not kidding.

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Speaker 1: You'll find out right now, Okay, they these relaxing pants

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Speaker 1: are worth to buy. I love the tweets that you're

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00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: sending us about buying me Andy's, about buying bio Clarity,

685
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: about buying equip, all these um sponsors that we have,

686
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: about buying Omaha steaks and everything, because I love to

687
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 1: read that you actually appreciate the products. But some of

688
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: the funniest are the emails about me Andy's. Really, I mean,

689
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: your stories about me anddies are great, So if you

690
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: have any stories about using any of our sponsors. But

691
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: it is kind of it just kind of nuts that

692
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Speaker 1: I got in the swag bag, You've got in the

693
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 1: swag bag. Then both of us liked it so much

694
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: so we went and go bought our own, and then

695
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,760
Speaker 1: we went and bought some for our family and friends.

696
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: Like that's seriously, how much we like this and that's

697
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 1: and they love us now more than they did before.

698
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: So if you have any good stories about Me, Andy's,

699
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: or any of our sponsors using any of those products,

700
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: we want to hear about it. We want to hear

701
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: what you like. So emails at Ben and Ashley at

702
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: I heeart meatia dot com tell us your stories. Again,

703
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: we only let sponsor sponsor us that we believe in

704
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: their products. It's that simple, um, So thank you again

705
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Speaker 1: for the almost famous podcast and sponsoring it Me, Andy's

706
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Speaker 1: and Omha stakes. So far, We're gonna move on to

707
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 1: segment three in this podcast, one that we haven't touched

708
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: on for a few weeks, but it is one of

709
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: my favorites. Uh this first email, it really really touched me. Uh.

710
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: I cared about this email so much that I want

711
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,240
Speaker 1: to get her on this podcast. We're in the process

712
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: of calling her right now, but before we do, I

713
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: want to read um this to everybody out there, to

714
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: all of our listeners, says Hi Been and Ashley. I

715
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: was in a relationship for about a year and a

716
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: half with who I thought was the absolute love of

717
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 1: my life. The only fights we've ever had were about

718
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: this one girl he was really good friends with, but

719
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: I always had bad feelings about. He always denied over

720
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: and over again that anything was going on, but sure enough,

721
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: about a week ago, she confessed her feelings for him

722
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: and they kissed. We broke up because I can't forgive cheating,

723
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 1: but he also was not trying to fight for me

724
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,720
Speaker 1: at all, saying the kiss made him confused about his feelings.

725
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: I can't eat, I can't sleep, and I find myself

726
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: crying at random times throughout the day. We were long

727
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 1: distance while he finished school, and I had just been

728
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: a lot of money to visit him on a trip

729
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: that we were really looking forward to. Do you think

730
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: I should try to get him to reimburse me for this?

731
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: Where do I need to let it go? Also, any

732
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: coping suggestions you have to get through this would be

733
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: greatly appreciated. Thank you, Sarah. Honestly, I just want to

734
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: talk to Sarah. I don't want to process this with her.

735
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: I know, UM, this is just a really hard story

736
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: to read because her heart's in it. You can tell um, Sarah,

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00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: are you out there? Hi? Yes, I'm here. Hey Sarah,

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00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Almost Famous podcast. Hi, thanks for talking

739
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 1: to me. It's so nice to talk to you guys.

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00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: How are you feeling today? Okay, I'm a little angry.

741
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: I bet we just we just read your email that

742
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: you sent us on air. Um, we read it through

743
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,240
Speaker 1: its entirety, so so our listeners now have are updated

744
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: on your story in your life. Um, Sarah, really, I know,

745
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 1: actually just ask you just elaborate a little bit. How

746
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 1: are you doing? Yeah, I know, it's a great question. Um.

747
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: Definitely been trying to keep a bit busy. I think

748
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 1: the most surprising part is just part of the most

749
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 1: difficult part is and how surprising the whole thing was,

750
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: Like where I was a week aldgo compared to where

751
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: I am today. It's like you picture your life a

752
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: certain way and then a week later it's totally different

753
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: and just a lot of different things going into it. Um.

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00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 1: So you know today doing bus yesterday, but some days

755
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: are harder than than other days. Where's your mind at?

756
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: I mean what I know in these situations, doubts arise,

757
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: not only pie about yourself, but about the relationship and

758
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: kind of how much it meant where's your mind at today? Um?

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00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: I think it's been a place now where it's a

760
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: little concerned, um, in the sense of, you know, you

761
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: have this relationship that you think you're spending the rest

762
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: of your life with symphonies for over a year, and

763
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: then it should kind of have that taken aways kind

764
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,919
Speaker 1: of like we'll kind of go back up. And you're

765
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 1: not really sure how stress is going to be and

766
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: how future things are going to be, And so I

767
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: think my mind is kind of a convoluted like confusion

768
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: and Kurt and mad all at the same time. I

769
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: don't doubt it. And that's fair. Um, you asked for advice,

770
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: and and I want to give you mine. So first off,

771
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: your story is not right. And and the cheap answer here,

772
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: the cheap statement I can make, was you're better off

773
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: without him now than you were him. But that doesn't

774
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: mean anything. And I know how that feels, and I

775
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: know how it feels to hear that, which is kind

776
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: of like, well, thanks for for saying it, but it

777
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: doesn't fix anything. Um, But your your story is all

778
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: too real. With too many people out there, we actually tweeted,

779
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: actually tweeted uh during this podcast for some advice for

780
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: people like you, and and our phone lines are just

781
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: absolutely blowing up right now. There's so many people that

782
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: can relate with this story. And what I want to

783
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 1: tell you is this, Uh, and I'm not an expert, Sara.

784
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try my best here because this email did

785
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: really hit my heart and I feel for you. I

786
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: this sounds, um like a decision he made in a

787
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: weak moment of his life. So my my thought is

788
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 1: always when you enter into relationship relationship, you are committing.

789
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 1: You're choosing to stay committed to that person. You're choosing

790
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: to stay with that person. That is the value making

791
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: when you put a title on, when you define your relationship,

792
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 1: and if you're together, then that's what that means. And

793
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: in no case and no cases cheating acceptable. Um, you're

794
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: sharing your heart with somebody. You've given your heart to somebody.

795
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: You've given that trust to somebody, which doesn't happen a

796
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: lot in life. Um. And we can keep balls up

797
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: and we can tear down walls, and that's what relationships

798
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 1: kind of due to us. And in these moments, this

799
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: is where heartbreak occurs. Um. So you move on to

800
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: say you can't sleep, you can't eat, and you find

801
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: yourself crying through at random times throughout the day. I

802
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:37,240
Speaker 1: just want to tell you're not alone. Um, you're not different.

803
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: You You're handling this similar to I think how a

804
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: lot of people would handle this. Sure, Um, have you

805
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: ever been through a bad breakup before? This was the worst, Um,

806
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:51,959
Speaker 1: in the sense I think this would be the most

807
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 1: serious relationship that I've had. Um, similar to the the situations

808
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 1: which I know you you guys have dealt with. I

809
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: had relationships in before, but they weren't too were serious,

810
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: they weren't they weren't good relationships, whereas this one was

811
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: actually a good relationship that I that I pictured the

812
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: rest of my life with this person. And so this

813
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: was definitely just kind of punch in the gut um

814
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: and all sorts of ways and just so confusing and

815
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 1: so surprising and just hard to deal with. And she

816
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: was just so unexpected, especially when you don't have, you know,

817
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: other other relationships necessarily compared to It's kind of like, well,

818
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 1: here's here's what it is. It's going to be, you

819
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: know what I mean, if you don't mind before Ashton,

820
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: the kind of some some of what we believe is

821
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: the advice for you to move forward and the advice

822
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 1: for you as a person. We have a lot of colors.

823
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: They are looking to give you some practical advice out there.

824
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: If you don't mind, we'd like to to to tag

825
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: them into this podcast so that you can hear personally

826
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: from them what their advice is. At first, we have

827
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: Victoria from from Kansas City. Hey, Victoria, you out there? Yes, Hey, Victoria,

828
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: we have Sarah on the line. Sarah has just recently

829
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 1: gone through a really tough breakup, UM, one that's affecting

830
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: her deeply, and and we know that you have some

831
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: practical advice for anybody that's kind of a breakup. Can

832
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: you share that with us? Yes, so, I recently or

833
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: it wasn't by recently, like two years um got um

834
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: went through a breakup with the love of my life.

835
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: Like he's the only person that I've ever been in

836
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: love with, and he was my first real relationship, and honestly,

837
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: I think it was probably the best experience to len

838
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 1: about myself. And time really does play a big part

839
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 1: in it. But if I could have done like some

840
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 1: things differently to get over him faster. Definitely just hanging

841
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: out with your girlfriend, being surrounded by your friends, UM,

842
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: being around people kind of letting them know also about

843
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: what happened, and like you know what you're going through,

844
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: because they're going to be to help you, like they

845
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: love you, and I'm going to make sure you know,

846
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: they stop you from texting him or like keeping the

847
00:43:55,880 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: drafted from thinking about them stuff like that. And I

848
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: don't know, it's just really really hard because you have

849
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: to be strong and stay off social media. Like I remember,

850
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: for like two weeks straight, I just checked his Twitter

851
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: like every yeah, for two seconds. I was just like

852
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: refreshing it, and it was just so unhealthy and just

853
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: really trying to stay distracted. Like I work at a

854
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: company that has a gym with like classes every day

855
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 1: like after work, and I started doing those and just

856
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: going home later so that I went to sleep earlier

857
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: and just kind of like filling my days with stuff.

858
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 1: And yeah, so how long ago did you guys break up?

859
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 1: About a week ago, So in that week. Oh yeah, yeah,

860
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 1: this is gonna be the hardest time for sure, totally

861
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: and together about a year and a half, that's how

862
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: long me and my ex are together. Oh my gosh. Yeah,

863
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: it's just everything's really fresh right now and it's and

864
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: it's tough, and I know that you know, for you, Victoria,

865
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 1: you're coming from two years Sarah, you're just a week out. Um,

866
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: but Victoria, thank you for coming on. We we have

867
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 1: someone else that has some advice for for just random

868
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: ways to heal, and Madison has a drastic way, but

869
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 1: a therapeutic way to heal. Madison, can you please share

870
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 1: your advice for Sarah on how to get over a breakup? Hey, so, um,

871
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 1: first off, I'm super excited that I'm talking to y'all. Um. Well, normally,

872
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: after I have like a really bad breakup, I'll throw

873
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: like kind of a bonfire party with all of my

874
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: friends where they can bring stuff of their exes. I

875
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 1: bring like pictures and different things. We kind of just

876
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: burned it. So that helps me like kind of get

877
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 1: closure of a situation as well as like be with

878
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 1: my friends for support like during that time. That's cute.

879
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: I like that idea. Really, that sounds crazy to me.

880
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 1: I've done that before with a friend. Um. It was

881
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 1: more of like her the guy that she legs are

882
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: dating a new girl, and she printed out pictures of

883
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: the new girl and burned in my fireplace. Oh that

884
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,959
Speaker 1: sounds like a terrible sitcom. Sounds like something I would watch.

885
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 1: I'm like, actually funny. You get a good laugh at it. Yeah,

886
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:09,240
Speaker 1: all right. How many times have you have you thrown

887
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: these parties? Only twice? Well? Onine was for myself and

888
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: then one was for a friend of mine. I was

889
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 1: going through a breakup. I think it's cute, and I'm like,

890
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: I'm go into it. Amy, you had a crazy one,

891
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: But I think I understand where you're coming. I read

892
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: this book like years and years ago. I don't remember

893
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: it was called, but it said to stick your feet

894
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: in a bucket of ice and think nothing but thoughts

895
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: about the ex boyfriend and then just think about, think

896
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: about and think about it, and you like train your

897
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: mind to dislike the person with the freezing ice. Oh

898
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: my gosh, you guys. I never did it, but the

899
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 1: books that I hate cold feet, that might work for me. Wow,

900
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: that's like a stereotactic. That's that's Madison. Thank you so

901
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: much for coming on and sharing your advice for Sarah.

902
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: We appreciate you. Have a great day. We're gonna move

903
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: on to Danielle in Long Island. She has a good idea. Danielle,

904
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: what's your plan when you break up with somebody? Um? So,

905
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: I think it's important to have something to look forward to.

906
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: So like when I broke up one of my boyfriends,

907
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: I love vap tickets to a concert I really want

908
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 1: to go to, and then I booked a spontaneous trip

909
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: to Miami because it's important to do things that you

910
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 1: enjoy with people that you enjoyed being with, and to

911
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: distract yourself. I agree, I I and I think that's

912
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 1: a lot less dangerous than a fire. So getting together

913
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: your friends a lot less dangerous and starting fire. Daniel,

914
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: we just had a caller call in Madison who actually

915
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: gave pretty goodvice from from everybody else's perspective in here,

916
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: that you should burn all of your ex of stuff

917
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 1: in a big party format. So hey, Daniel, thanks for

918
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: coming on the podcast. Yeah, of course. Hey, I think

919
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: that Ellie in Minneapolis hasn't has a really good idea. Ellie,

920
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 1: you out there, I am, how are you great? On

921
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: the line, and and Ashley thinks you have some great advice.

922
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:06,760
Speaker 1: Really you heard that before? Well, um no, I said

923
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: that you would need a little time to be miserable

924
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: and like wallow in tears and just like cry and

925
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: get postmates to Ashley, I know, mate, and like just

926
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 1: not get out of bed. But I totally think you

927
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 1: need to set a time limit for yourself, like a

928
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna be like, Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna cry.

929
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: I'm but I'm only going to cry for two months

930
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,720
Speaker 1: and then I have to get out of spred, start

931
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 1: hanging out with friends, and get back to my life.

932
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if any of you listened

933
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 1: to the podcast reguarly, but actually we talked to Julia

934
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 1: Kinney a few weeks ago, and and her advice to

935
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: us on how to get over a breakup or how

936
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: to get over a tragic incident in your life is

937
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: to choose to move forward, choose to be happy. And

938
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: so you're saying, um, Ellie, to choose to put a

939
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,359
Speaker 1: date on the calendar, choose a moment to to mourn

940
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: why you need to mourn, but choose to move forward

941
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: at a certain date. Well not exactly, because like, I

942
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 1: love Julia and I respect what she's saying. She's amazing,

943
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: but I also think that choosing to be happy isn't

944
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 1: always that simple. Like, but there are people who struggle

945
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,959
Speaker 1: with depression. I'm definitely one of them, and I can't

946
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: always choose to be happy, but I can choose to

947
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: act the way that happy people act, and eventually I

948
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: can convince myself that I'm happy. Okay, yeah it makes sense. Yeah, yeah,

949
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: that makes sense. Ellie, thank you so much for coming

950
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 1: on the podcast with your awesome advice for Sarah. All right.

951
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much. Were my favorite. Hey, thank

952
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: you so much for listening to Almost Famous podcast. Ellie. Yeah,

953
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 1: thanks for having me. Hey, Sarah, Um, I'm gonna let

954
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 1: Ashley start and I want to finish um this conversation

955
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 1: and just kind of say you off and try to

956
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: figure out exactly how are you gonna move forward. So

957
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: we'll just take a couple of minutes here. Actually, what

958
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: kind of advice do you have for Sarah? All right?

959
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: So I just came up with this while listening to everyone,

960
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know what, hanging out with your friends.

961
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 1: That sounds like a good idea, but actually I find

962
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: sometimes that it perpetuates the heartbreak because I don't know

963
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 1: about you, but when I get get with my best friends,

964
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,760
Speaker 1: I feel like they're the people who I can continue

965
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: to talk about this guy with and I can continue

966
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: to walla with and then they're like, yeah, it was

967
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 1: like the time. Then this happened to me, and then

968
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're like, in some man hating,

969
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: sad conversation. Yeah, I completely agree in that. Yeah, happening

970
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 1: because I have been doing exactly with that, you know,

971
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: going to hang out with my girlfriends, doing every single

972
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: night of the week. Um. But then you know what

973
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 1: kind of happening I'm like, well I'm doing is talking

974
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, I'm getting upset. And then if they

975
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,399
Speaker 1: don't agree, and then they're just like, oh no, he's

976
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: you know, the worst, he's the worst, and it's like, well,

977
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,320
Speaker 1: but then you're like he wasn't always the worst, and

978
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: it's like this don't be helpful, right. I mean, I

979
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: am understand having to talk it out, like I am

980
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: somebody who really needs to talk out my problems. But

981
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 1: then at some point it becomes more of a problem

982
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 1: because you're kind of addicted to talking about him. So

983
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 1: what I would suggest is you have any good guy friends. Yeah.

984
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 1: I always feel like my guy friends actually make me

985
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 1: feel better in these circumstances because they have a totally

986
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: different perspective on guys and they can tell you and

987
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to say, like you're more convinced that

988
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: the guy wasn't right for you if your guy friends

989
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 1: say it. But sometimes if you open up to the

990
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,919
Speaker 1: guys who don't always you don't always talk about guy

991
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: issues with they make you see the light and you

992
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,320
Speaker 1: wouldn't always see that with your girl pals. Yeah. No,

993
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 1: I totally agree with that. Good advice. Agree. I mean,

994
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,919
Speaker 1: here's my advice, and here's what's gotten me through tough

995
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: break off. And I still I don't want to be

996
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: as as vulnerable with you as possible. I still struggle

997
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 1: at times. I'm not I sit here, and I'm not

998
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,320
Speaker 1: going to claim that that I am completely here, that

999
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 1: there isn't times that I'm still sad, or there isn't

1000
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 1: times that my mind still goes back or whatever. You know,

1001
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: I can't promise that that will ever go away. Here's

1002
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,800
Speaker 1: a few things that that that I've done. I have

1003
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 1: surrounded myself with really good friends. Um. Those really good

1004
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: friends are people that when I'm just mad or sad

1005
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: or confused, before I react, I can confide and and

1006
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: by confiding and taking time I can help they help

1007
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 1: me process through this. Now I've chosen two really good

1008
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: friends in my life to process through any really hard

1009
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 1: relationship stuff, especially during this time my life with so

1010
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: they know the whole story, they know everything. They know

1011
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 1: the things that I've really messed up on, the things

1012
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: that have really broken me, the things that my partners

1013
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 1: really messed up on. So so they can help me

1014
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: from a kind of a non biased perspective, say Been,

1015
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: you're in the right, Ben, you should be sad, Ben,

1016
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: you shouldn't been, you need to move on, or hey,

1017
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: like you need to apologize. Um, So they've held me accountable.

1018
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 1: So that's one thing. If I was you, I'd choose

1019
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: two really close friends, two or three that will walk

1020
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 1: with you in this because as they'll be able to

1021
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: emotionally support you as well, you won't have to talk

1022
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: about this situation all the time because they know that's

1023
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 1: not what's best for you. But when it is best

1024
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: for you to talk to you about the next is

1025
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: I'd find I'd find a counselor, and I'd find a

1026
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: counselor soon, um I did. I would go to therapy

1027
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 1: and I would talk this through with with a trained professional.

1028
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: I think it is incredibly important with anything in our life.

1029
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: I think is not only with tragic situations, even when

1030
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: when we're in seasons of life that we're celebrating. I

1031
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 1: think going to a professional to release any type of feelings,

1032
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 1: any type of emotions, is incredibly important. The life consumes us,

1033
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: Life tires us out, life makes us sad, and any

1034
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: of our listeners out there, I would recommend going to therapy,

1035
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 1: going to counseling, talking to people that are trained. Uh.

1036
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: It is incredibly important, especially in this day and age,

1037
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 1: to have people surrounding you that you can lean on.

1038
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: Because the worst thing you can feel, and Sarah, I

1039
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: never want you to feel this way. Listen to me. Okay,

1040
00:53:58,040 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 1: this is what I'll tell you. I never want you

1041
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: to let your mind go here because it starts at will. Okay,

1042
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: and anybody out there, listen to me. You aren't alone.

1043
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: The worst feeling can feel is loneliness, and you aren't

1044
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: ever alone. There's others out there they're dealing with this,

1045
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 1: that are processing this. This is life. Life's has its

1046
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,359
Speaker 1: ups and downs. But I can promise you, Sarah, from

1047
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: the email that you read and the actions that he took,

1048
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 1: you are in a better place. Um from from hearing

1049
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 1: the way you've listened to all these callers and and

1050
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: you've you've processed with them. I know that your life.

1051
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: I can't promise a lot of things, but I can

1052
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:35,839
Speaker 1: they can promise you this. There is joy to come.

1053
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 1: So Sarah, thank you for your email, Thank you for

1054
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: listening to the Almost Famous podcast. Thanks for hanging out

1055
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 1: with this a little bit today. Yeah, thank you so

1056
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: much for talking to me. This was much better than

1057
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. And going off with Ben was saying,

1058
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: don't ever feel like a loser for talking about it. Um,

1059
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people feel like he was saying.

1060
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: People think that they're alone, but they're totally not, and

1061
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:59,359
Speaker 1: then they feel like ashamed to talk their feelings out.

1062
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 1: And it's just like, no, we all been like we've

1063
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: been through it, or we've been through something similar. Everybody

1064
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: can relate. So just talk it out. It makes you

1065
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: feel so much better. Yeah, definitely. Well, thank you guys

1066
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 1: so much. He thanks the appreciate it right by. Um.

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00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 1: You know it's interesting is we're as I have the

1068
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: caller list kind of up here in front of me

1069
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: from all the people that did try to call in

1070
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 1: to give advice. Everybody up on the screen right now

1071
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: is saying cut him off, you know, s get him up,

1072
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 1: delete him from social media. Don't look at his Facebook profiles,

1073
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 1: you know, lay in bedding, cry for a little bit,

1074
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 1: then wake up and say you're no longer thinking about him.

1075
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: Like the cut it off advice seems to be the

1076
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: popular one, so I would imagine it would work. I mean,

1077
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 1: it is hard to cut people off. I I still

1078
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 1: to this day struggle with that. Like I'll get on

1079
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 1: my Instagram and I'll go, you know, there's that search

1080
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,280
Speaker 1: you can search other people, and you know, somebody pops

1081
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 1: up in my in my search bar, and and it's

1082
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 1: so tempting to me to clip. And I've done it

1083
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: a few times, and it just it's your heart sinks automatically,

1084
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: heart sinks, and it brings you back so far emotionally

1085
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: from you. It's like poison. And it really is, and

1086
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 1: it happens to me over and over again. And it's

1087
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 1: it's like a bad addiction. It's a bad drug. It

1088
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,439
Speaker 1: is like poison. But once you stop, stop, you stop

1089
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: you once you're off the junk. Yeah. Remember I remember

1090
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: my relationship in college and with a good friend of mine. Now,

1091
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 1: when we broke up, it was really hard on me

1092
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 1: and I kept I remember, kept checking my Facebook and

1093
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 1: also this get sounds crazy, but my my text to

1094
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 1: see if she would text me. I was obsessed with it.

1095
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 1: I was obsessed with checking to see what she was doing,

1096
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 1: where she was at, who she was dating, Is she

1097
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,879
Speaker 1: with anybody yet? Is she happy? You know whatever? Every

1098
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: time your phone goes off and you're like, is that her?

1099
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 1: And it really happened on The Bachelor? This is This

1100
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: is where The Bachelor, it really means a lot to me,

1101
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:50,839
Speaker 1: is where I tend to take three months away from

1102
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:52,359
Speaker 1: my phone. It might have been the first time I'd

1103
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: ever gone that far without checking her. And I got

1104
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 1: off the show and now we're friends and I can

1105
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: see her and I'm happy for when she's dating somebody

1106
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 1: or whatever that is. But when I got off the

1107
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 1: show is the first time I didn't have that angst

1108
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,399
Speaker 1: in my heart too, what she doing? Did I get

1109
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 1: a text from her? Had the same same experience A

1110
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: is go somewhere where you're not gonna have any technology

1111
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 1: for two months else so to a movie theater or

1112
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: somewhere where you really can't look at your phone all

1113
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 1: the time. The phones are like the devil now, I

1114
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 1: mean I'm even looking at my phone, like reading text

1115
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 1: right now going what does he mean? What does he

1116
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: mean by that? What does that mean? The screen? So

1117
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:33,360
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Speaker 1: sweet deal. All right, let's talk about how we are

1144
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: six weeks away from Ari's premiere. That freaks me out.

1145
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 1: How fast this year went. We were six weeks away

1146
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 1: from the new year. That's wild. Absolutely. Um. Let's talk

1147
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 1: about age for a second, because we we've mentioned how

1148
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: spoilers online seemed to indicate that Ari's girls are a

1149
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 1: young crowd like early twenties. People did not like that.

1150
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 1: I called arild. Oh sorry, Amy called Ari old, but

1151
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 1: just letting you know. Amy's a bit older than Ari.

1152
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 1: And let's let's be clear Ari is old in comparison

1153
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 1: to the Bachelor franchise, but not really because Nick is

1154
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 1: thirty seven nick for the Bachelor franchise. In comparison for

1155
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: somebody that's active on the show, Andrew Firestone said he

1156
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 1: was twenty six. Yeah, I mean, if you think about it,

1157
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 1: So if Andrew Fireston was twenty six when he was

1158
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 1: a Bachelor in two thousand three, that's fourteen years. He's

1159
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 1: only forty. He's only four years older than Ari, three

1160
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 1: years older than Yeah, that's weird that I mean in comparison,

1161
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 1: they both are old. But what about those other celebrity

1162
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 1: couples with huge age differences. There is Scott Disick who's

1163
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 1: thirty four and Sophia Ritchie who's ninety. I don't know

1164
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 1: why that's walking me out. Okay, wait, see this age

1165
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 1: different fifteen years is probably something we wouldn't really blink

1166
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 1: at when the guy is older than the girl. But

1167
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 1: she's nine teen, and that is so creepy. I've been

1168
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 1: a little intrigued by Katherine McPhee and David Foster. I

1169
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 1: don't know if they are aren't there very boy about it?

1170
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 1: They make sense to me because she's so Broadway, she's

1171
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 1: got the voice. She and he's all pianist and like

1172
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 1: composer or you know, and and he's attractive. He's not

1173
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 1: like seventy. Yeah, he's sixty eight. He looks great for

1174
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 1: his age. I see the two of them together despite that,

1175
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 1: I don't want to do the math, but over earth

1176
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 1: thirty year age difference, you guys, I was watching Scandal

1177
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 1: this week and as I always do, you know, as

1178
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 1: I always do, but President Fitzgerald Tony Goldwin, he's really

1179
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 1: had an effect on me lately. And he is fifty

1180
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 1: seven or fifty eight in real life, which is only

1181
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 1: four years younger than my father. But that is the

1182
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 1: one guy I have to go for if I was

1183
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 1: gonna you date him, if he wasn't married and you

1184
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 1: had the chance, Yeah, I think so. But he's hot

1185
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 1: with his shirt off. I think that makes a big

1186
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 1: difference too. Well. I think it's it's also hot that

1187
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 1: he's the president, you know that authority. Would you date

1188
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 1: someone older? Like? How about me? Said court Conson Jennifer.

1189
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 1: I'm forty three, and you're what what do you think

1190
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 1: if we've tried? Is it cougar? But it also sees

1191
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 1: who like Ben is willing to go older? Then how

1192
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 1: much older? Honestly? And I don't know how to say

1193
01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 1: this other than probably making half our listeners. Man, I

1194
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 1: want kids, so that has to come into play, Like

1195
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 1: at some point that's no longer um medically healthy for

1196
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 1: for the for the woman and so and so. I

1197
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 1: would have to take that in consideration. So at this

1198
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 1: point in my life, that would be my my big decision.

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01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 1: That's the only reason you and I aren't, Yes, I mean,

1200
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 1: that's that's the only reason. Also to the men out there,

1201
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 1: I want kids, and so people who are like, you know,

1202
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 1: concentrating your career, you have your whole life. I don't

1203
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 1: have a bit of a window. I mean, I think

1204
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if age is. I think true love

1205
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 1: can exist in all places, at any time, with anybody.

1206
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 1: I think true love is a magical thing. Andrew Firestone

1207
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 1: early on this podcast called love magic. He said in

1208
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 1: the Bachelor World, when two people can come together on

1209
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 1: a show, it's magic, and I believe in that. I

1210
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 1: felt that, I've seen that. So love is magic. I

1211
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 1: can't put a number on it. I don't want to.

1212
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 1: I don't know when that will happen for me, So

1213
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 1: I can't say I would or I wouldn't. I'm not

1214
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 1: just picking people out of the air. And saying hey, yeah,

1215
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 1: you're older and I would date you. What I'm saying

1216
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 1: is this, it's I think there is an appropriate age

1217
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 1: rang And that being said, would you date a nine

1218
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 1: two year old? Uh No, I would not. I don't

1219
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 1: think you would mentally connect with them well from my experience.

1220
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 1: And this is this is a stereotyped as a generalization.

1221
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 1: It could I could completely be wrong. I've said this before.

1222
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 1: I'm very careful about what I what I when I

1223
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 1: say I would never do something anymore. It's life experience

1224
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 1: for me. So somebody at nineteen has a lot less

1225
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 1: life experience than somebody at twenty four. Somebody at twenty

1226
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 1: four has a lot less life experience I've seen than

1227
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 1: somebody at Somebody at forty has a lot more life

1228
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 1: experience than I do at twenty eight. So it's not

1229
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 1: exactly maturity. I've met nineteen year olds that are incredibly mature,

1230
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 1: that are fantastic people, are doing great things for this world.

1231
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 1: What they lack is the life experience. So how old

1232
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 1: is this sic and how old is Ritchie? She's nineteen

1233
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 1: and he's thirty four. We know he has a lot

1234
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 1: of wife experience, but but they talk about. What do

1235
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 1: you think they're talking about while they're tanning out there

1236
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 1: and they're talking much. I don't think they're talking much.

1237
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 1: They're talking much. Just from the pictures I've seen, it

1238
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 1: doesn't look like there Amy. Can you figure out what

1239
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 1: Linel Richie thinks of this? I don't. Somebody did ask him,

1240
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 1: and I don't think he was like two per thrilled.

1241
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 1: That was the vibe I got, like, really, a dad's

1242
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 1: not jacked about this. Dad's not just like, yeah, I'm

1243
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 1: cool with this. This sounds awesome. Come on, come on

1244
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:33,919
Speaker 1: dot dot seems like a great guy's proven it over

1245
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 1: and over. Uh huh. I mean, so that's my that's

1246
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 1: my advice is find somebody that has similar life, experienced,

1247
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 1: similar value, similar morals, um with you. And so I

1248
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 1: can't say, hey, I would or I wouldn't fall in

1249
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 1: love with somebody younger than me or older, but it

1250
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 1: would be in my mind right now, this conversation makes

1251
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 1: me very okay, And I'll just go on on a

1252
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 1: limb here, and if you disagree or agree with me,

1253
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 1: please email us at Ben and Ashley at I heart

1254
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:05,439
Speaker 1: media dot com. When I see a third year age

1255
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 1: difference in a relationship. It makes me uncomfortable. It does.

1256
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 1: I don't know why, but it does. Yeah, sometimes you

1257
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 1: can't tell so much. Does John Stamos in his Caitlin MQ.

1258
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 1: Does that make you uncomfortable? Have you seen pictures of them?

1259
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 1: They see? That doesn't make me uncomfortable, So studly it

1260
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. I can do whatever he wants. And he

1261
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 1: does want kids, you know, he wants kids and he

1262
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 1: doesn't have any. Yeah, I don't know, honestly, I just

1263
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 1: I'm very uncomfortable right now. And with that, everybody, thank

1264
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 1: you so much for listening in. We want to thank

1265
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:42,800
Speaker 1: our special special guest Andrew Firestone and Ashley from The

1266
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 1: Hollywood Reporter. Next week, it's Thanksgiving week, but we'll be here.

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Speaker 1: We ain't stopping. We work. That was news to me, really,

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Speaker 1: I was going to give you guys vacation and then

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Speaker 1: I had to change. I was gonna say, I'm just

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Speaker 1: fining on this podcast right now that I'm working next

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Speaker 1: week sounds good to me. Amy, get Christmas. If you're lucky, thanks, celebrate,

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Speaker 1: celebrate and be happy. Hey, we appreciate you listeners. Um,

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Speaker 1: it's good to be back. I just got back from Honduras.

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Speaker 1: I'm happy to be here. Ashley is happy to be here.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna keep rolling with this. We're six weeks out

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Speaker 1: from the Bachelor again. This is our off season and

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Speaker 1: we're still chugging. We have. I mean, I think we

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Speaker 1: estimated this this last week that if we add up

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Speaker 1: all of our episodes and all of the listeners, were

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Speaker 1: way over five million listeners. I mean, that's nuts. That's

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Speaker 1: five million listens to the almost million podcasts. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: got to tell her how it is. Hey again, keep

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Speaker 1: in touch with us. We appreciate you. We'll talk to

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Speaker 1: you soon. Until next time, I've been, I've been Ashley,

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Speaker 1: see you soon. Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost

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Speaker 1: Famous podcast on IHUR Radio or subscribe wherever you listen

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Speaker 1: to podcasts.