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Speaker 1: know we sent you. What is going on everybody, John

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Speaker 1: Middlecock Three and Out Podcast? How are we doing? Good day?

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Speaker 1: Potentially Monday if you're listening this on Monday. We usually

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Speaker 1: put out a Middlecoff mail bag over the weekend, but

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Speaker 1: I forgot it hit me this morning. I'm at Scottsdale

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Speaker 1: escaped my mind. But we'll just add it to this podcast,

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Speaker 1: which isn't gonna be that long because I have not

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Speaker 1: That's when they get their high level work. I'm a

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Speaker 1: Dana White, my bald brother um made some headline news.

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Speaker 1: Middlecoff mailbag is just my name at John Middlecoff is

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Speaker 1: to start there. Uh, the news that Dana White tried

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Speaker 1: a simple reality. With Bruce Arians, Bruce had passed the

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Speaker 1: and they clearly butted heads sometimes. John Gruden was relinquishing

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Speaker 1: mac Jones didn't have to fill the shoes of Tom Brady.

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Speaker 1: Funga is a starter for the forty Niners. Michael Pittman

426
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Speaker 1: is the number one wide receiver for the Indianapolis Colts.

427
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 1: Their quarterback from last year, Jackson Dart is starting for

428
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Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin, who was replacing a quarterback that just went

429
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Speaker 1: in the third round. So it's not like USC didn't

430
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Speaker 1: have talent. They did, they just didn't have a coach.

431
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 1: Now they have a coach and they're gonna get even

432
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 1: more talent. Now. I'm not saying they're gonna do it

433
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Speaker 1: this year, but some times you could have talent in basketball.

434
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Speaker 1: If I have a lot of talent, I might not

435
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Speaker 1: be an NBA champion or like you know, I might

436
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,399
Speaker 1: not go to the Final four, but my team is

437
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 1: gonna be solid if I have multiple NBA guys, I

438
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 1: can just out talent you in baseball, like the Yankees

439
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,880
Speaker 1: are going through a tough stretch, they'll be fine. Why

440
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 1: they're just two loaded. Whether it's Aaron Boone managing or

441
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 1: me managing, they're gonna hit enough home runs to get

442
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 1: to ninety eight games. It's just a fact. In football,

443
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 1: you can have Pro bowlers a different position and go

444
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 1: four and thirteen easily if the coaches don't know what

445
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,199
Speaker 1: they're doing, if the scheme doesn't fit the players, if

446
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 1: there's no leadership. We've seen it happen year in year out,

447
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 1: over and over and over. I'll never forget when Jim

448
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 1: Harball left Stanford to take over the forty Niners. They

449
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 1: hosted the NFC Championship Gamp. They had been one of

450
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Speaker 1: the biggest jokes for a decade now. Granted, at the

451
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 1: time he took over, the cupboard was not bear. They

452
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 1: had town haunted players everywhere, but before him, they sucked.

453
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 1: He gets there, they kicked ass and it happens. I'm

454
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: pretty sure the Chiefs had the number one overall pick

455
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 1: the year that Andy got the job. They drafted Eric Fisher,

456
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: they traded for Alex Smith, Boom were in the playoffs

457
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,640
Speaker 1: that year. If I remember correctly, I think they won

458
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Speaker 1: eleven games. They went from the number one overall pick

459
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 1: to eleven games. Now, if you don't hire the right coach,

460
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,120
Speaker 1: if you're the Jags every single year, you're winning three

461
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 1: four games. Now, maybe with Doug that changes, right, But

462
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 1: if you get a high level guy, it's impossible to

463
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Speaker 1: not win. I'm not saying win big. I'm not saying

464
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Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl immediately, or win a national championship,

465
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Speaker 1: but it immediately gets a train back on the tracks.

466
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Speaker 1: If I was a betting man, l s U, I

467
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Speaker 1: would say eight nine games this year. Easy. He's just

468
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 1: too good of a coach. And they're already have built

469
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Speaker 1: in talent, so USC they're gonna have guys in their

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00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 1: roster that Lincoln inherited that are like Amen Ross st. Brown,

471
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Speaker 1: They're like Michael Pittman or Drake Jackson that are just

472
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 1: you know, would have been a third or fourth or

473
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Speaker 1: second rounder. But you get the right coach in there, Boom,

474
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: maybe he goes up around and then you get all

475
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Speaker 1: these transfer guys in a conference that isn't that great.

476
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Speaker 1: I mean, let's face it, the Pack twelve while it's

477
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: might only half a year left. They got three good teams,

478
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Speaker 1: and I'm assuming USC is gonna be solid this year.

479
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: Utah and Oregon, that's all we know. Utah could be

480
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Speaker 1: a powerhouse. Oregon will see I mean new coach, but

481
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Speaker 1: he has a lot of talent because Mario is such

482
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Speaker 1: a good recruiter. But if you told me in two

483
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Speaker 1: years that Lincoln Riley has them in the playoffs, I

484
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,479
Speaker 1: think that's very believable. Because the more and more I

485
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 1: watched just and follow the NFL, USC did not lack

486
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Speaker 1: for talent. That they had dudes and kind of dudes everywhere. Uh,

487
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 1: let's get Middlecoff mail back at John Middlecoff is the

488
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 1: Instagram fire in those d ms, very very easy to

489
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 1: do and get your question answered here on the show.

490
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Speaker 1: Who do you think you'll have a better year? Leonard

491
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Speaker 1: four Nett or J K. Dobbins. I keep one or

492
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Speaker 1: the other for Fantasy football. For net came in overweight,

493
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 1: but as the lead running back, Dobbins towards a c

494
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: L but the Ravens love to run. I think I

495
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 1: saw the news today Tampa Bay lost another offensive lineman.

496
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean I saw someone say that

497
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Speaker 1: they've lost four of their five starting offensive lineman and

498
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 1: Tom's been on you know, trying to save his marriage vacation.

499
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: That's a guess. That's no inside information. But let's I mean,

500
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,719
Speaker 1: what what's he's not in the mass singer. He's not

501
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: just you know, his kids go to training camp. Like,

502
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: it's pretty clear what it is if you're just a

503
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 1: normal human being above thirty years old. You know, what

504
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: do you think Tom's dealing with? Yeah, it's like, yeah,

505
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: I don't you know, his marriage, his wife does not

506
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Speaker 1: want him playing football. I think it's fair to speculate

507
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: on that one. That that that's my theory. I feel

508
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Speaker 1: pretty confident that there's uh some drama there because she

509
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: wanted him to quit a long time ago, and then

510
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 1: he literally did quit and then he came back. Uh.

511
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Speaker 1: So I would go with j K. Dobbins, Buck Brady.

512
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,439
Speaker 1: You know that they got so many question marks, a

513
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: lot of issues. And again I'm I'm a Tom fan.

514
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 1: I don't blame him for trying to save his marriage,

515
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 1: but again I don't have inside information on that. That's

516
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:14,360
Speaker 1: just a theory. I would go j K. Dobbins. I'm

517
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: normally with you on your takes, but thought you were

518
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 1: rather harsh on Breeze the other day. I'm a Saints fan,

519
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 1: but not a sensitive one, and pride myself on being objective.

520
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 1: I love the sport more than I love my team,

521
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: even as a season ticket holder. I didn't quite agree

522
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,919
Speaker 1: with your take, but felt no need to defend Breese. However,

523
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 1: today you talked a lot about how Wilson couldn't be

524
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: a forty pass per game from the pocket type guy

525
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,199
Speaker 1: like Manning or Brady, and about how remarkable he was

526
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,719
Speaker 1: performed given his size. Doesn't that also make what Breeze

527
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: did that much more remarkable as well? It is sustained

528
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: superior performance from the pocket for over a decade while

529
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: being basically the same size Wilson not athletic. Well, let

530
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Speaker 1: me speak to that, because someone else d m me

531
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: and said, I not even a Saints fan, but I

532
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,679
Speaker 1: thought you picking Roethlisberger over Breese was insane. Now, I

533
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 1: did not say that Roethlisberger had a better career start

534
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 1: to finish than Drew Brees, because I think Drew Brees

535
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: was consistently a better player for longer. I said, in

536
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 1: the peak of Ben Roethlisberger's career, and you're like, box score,

537
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: check the numbers. I would take the peak of Roethlisberger's

538
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: career whatever to thirty three or twenty six. That whatever

539
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: the peak of his athletic career was over anything, whatever

540
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: Drew Brees was now. And here's the thing with Drew Brees.

541
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Speaker 1: He played with one of the all time great offensive

542
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: coordinators who happened to be as head coach. And I

543
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,479
Speaker 1: also argued with someone the other day that's like, you know,

544
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 1: you said that Drew Brees, Like, what's the difference between

545
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 1: Drew Brees and Russell Wilson. Well, Russell Wilson is one

546
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: of the greatest deep ball throwers in the history of

547
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Speaker 1: the league. Now, when Drew Brees was younger, he could

548
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: push the ball down the field. But let's be real,

549
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: what their offense was. I'm not gonna say dink and dunk,

550
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: but it was short and intermediate passing game, right, Jimmy

551
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: Graham Colston like those type guys. They throw a lot

552
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: to the running back. They're a pro lific, prolific offense,

553
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: but I don't view them as throwing like Patrick Mahomes,

554
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, DK Metcalf to Tyreek Hill like bombs, go routes.

555
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's never thrown a go route, but

556
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: that's not what Drew Brees hung his hat on. I'm

557
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,719
Speaker 1: not saying Drew Brees was a manipulated figure, because you

558
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: don't do what he did without being extremely talented. And

559
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: he was elite in college. But I don't put him

560
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: in the same realm as Pete Roethlisberger, who I just

561
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: view in a vacuum as a better player. And here's

562
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: the other thing with Brees, I judge you a little

563
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: bit when you play indoors and you have a weak arm,

564
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: because sometimes when you get outdoors you're not as good.

565
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: I mean Peyton Manning early on his career, where do

566
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: he struggle outdoors in the cold. You can manipulate the

567
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: numbers a little bit in a dome. You can't do

568
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: that in Pittsburgh, in New England, in New York. It's

569
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: not in Buffalo. It's not fucking possible. It's you know,

570
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: it's freezing cold and windy, right, I mean, would you

571
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: rather play, you know, golf round in zero degree wind

572
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: or in uh in nine degrees or fifty two degrees

573
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: in wins? It's just it's just basic elements, the elements.

574
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: So I'm not a Drew Brees hater. I have nothing

575
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Speaker 1: but admiration for him as a player, terrible broadcaster, which

576
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: I told you it was gonna happen, first ballot, Hall

577
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: of Famer, an incredible human, being, a great leader. He

578
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: he actually has things going for him that Roethlisberger does not.

579
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Speaker 1: So you could argue by Roethlisberger argument, like, you know,

580
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: Drew Brees is much more natural at other stuff that

581
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: really matters at quarterback. You can pick holes in that.

582
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: But this notion that like him and Russell don't play

583
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: the same way Russell and this is gonna come off

584
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: like I don't think he's a dink and dunk player,

585
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: but for a large percentage of his career, he's you know,

586
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: throwing slant rouse, which that's what the offense calls Bell.

587
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: Brady did that, but no one ever argued like Brady

588
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: couldn't push the ball down the field if he had

589
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: held the last five years Drew Brees career. And you

590
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: can give me well as George per I don't want

591
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: to hear it. We all watched the fucking games. We

592
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: all saw it. Uh, New Listener have been digging your

593
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: coverage of the offseason, any other good NFL pause you

594
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: would recommend. Honestly, I don't really listen. I don't really

595
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: in take that much sports podcast or sports radio. Really.

596
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: I listened to Collins, I listened to Ruscillo, listen to

597
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,719
Speaker 1: DJ and Bucky. Uh. They kind of get into like

598
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: some nitty gritty scouting stuff. Lombardi's podcast. Every once in

599
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: a while, we gotta someone's gotta tell Michael Lombardi we

600
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: gotta fix the audio there, buddy, we're full time podcasters.

601
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: Get a real Mike. But I like Mike has. I

602
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: like his the nature in which he speaks, minds, music,

603
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: football guys. Uh. But that that'd probably about it. So

604
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: I said, I don't listen podcasts. Five uh predictions of

605
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: the year from Minnesota. Here's my one question with the Vikings.

606
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: Their offense is gonna be fantastic, right skill wise, Cousins

607
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: a good player, Jefferson's dominant feeling's awesome, Dalvin Cook, it's

608
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: Nick Bosa, So I'll take it with a grain of

609
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 1: salt and me he's one of the best pass question

610
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: in the league. The Niners were killing their offensive line,

611
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: and I just their offensive line is not great. So

612
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: obviously the division is not very good. Right, Chicago's gonna

613
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: be terrible. The Lions, who were all rooting for got

614
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: a ways to go. Uh can you block anybody? One

615
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: thing the Lions have is like they have an offensive line?

616
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: Do you guys have an offensive line? And here's the

617
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: other thing. Everyone's acting like Kevin O'Connell is going to

618
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: save the franchise. Their offense was good last year. It's

619
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: not like their offense sucked. So that that's the one

620
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: thing I'd wonder is who's fixing the defense. I was

621
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: a scouting to leave for the Rams for thirteen years,

622
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: been out for almost ten now. Anyway, I heard your

623
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: story about Russell Wilson's pro day. I was there. It

624
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: was completely true, except he was five one one six man.

625
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: He's about five eleven and a half I think, and

626
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: we all booed because and we re measured and put

627
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: him at six ft. So I messed up the story.

628
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: This is this is a good note here from Luke.

629
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Speaker 1: So my story was that everyone cheered when he hit

630
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: five eleven because he was over five ten. The story

631
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: is everyone cheered when they said that he was six

632
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: ft tall. That's a good story. Push him with six ft.

633
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: They all cheered, Yeah, that's that's a good story. Ru

634
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Speaker 1: you know it's weird. And I had this conversation with

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Speaker 1: someone who had been around Russell. I did feel when

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Speaker 1: he was in college he was a much more and

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Speaker 1: I don't mean he's not genuine now, but just had

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Speaker 1: a little less robotic and not like a created superstar.

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Speaker 1: And when I say created super are I just mean

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Speaker 1: in the words then, like the way he operates just

641
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: a little weird, Like if you ever just Tom Brady

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00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: or Peyton Man, like you can just kind of talk normally.

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Speaker 1: Even Aaron Rodgers just Drew Brees, like just like kind

644
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Speaker 1: of be a guy. It feels like sometimes Russell, it's

645
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Speaker 1: like I remember watching ESPN did they followed the University

646
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: Wisconsin when Russell transferred there, and it felt like he

647
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Speaker 1: was kind of normal. I just doesn't feel like he's

648
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Speaker 1: had normal anymore. And listen, what does even normal mean?

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Speaker 1: But I don't know. I just I would like him

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Speaker 1: a lot more if I just thought he could be

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Speaker 1: a little normal. I am currently an intern for the

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Speaker 1: Washington Commanders looking to be a scout. Any advice, well,

653
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: I would do everything humanly possible, interacting with your general manager,

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00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 1: any of the assistant gms, any of the pro directors.

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Speaker 1: If you're around those guys during training camp, and if

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Speaker 1: you're intern, you stay on for the season. Go above

657
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: and beyond. I I used to from getting coffee to

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Speaker 1: pick going up laundry to picking up breakfast burritos. That

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00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: was more at present state. But I did whatever I

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00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: had to do. I watched the least amount of football.

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Speaker 1: Uh my first year in the NFL, I watched way

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00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: more football when I was in recruiting, and then my

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Speaker 1: second two years in the NFL. My first year I

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Speaker 1: was just doing any task, picking a guy up at

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Speaker 1: the airport. Just do say hey, you need anything, anything

666
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: I can do for you, anything, anything, anyway I can help.

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00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: To me, that's the easiest way to break in in football,

668
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: and you're already in the door any way I can help.

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Speaker 1: The hardest part is just get the internship. So you

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Speaker 1: already got it, assuming you might. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: exactly your intern is internship is, but I uh, just

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Speaker 1: just do whatever you possibly can. My name is Tony.

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Speaker 1: Using my wife's Instagram, I subscribe to your page but

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Speaker 1: found out about you through coward I'll cut to the question.

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00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: As a Chiefs fan, one of the biggest fears that

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00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: mahomes career turns out like Rodgers. If your biggest fear

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00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: is the Patrick Mahomes turns into air and Rodgers shows

678
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Speaker 1: you how lucky you are. I know what you're saying,

679
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: but think about that. Aaron Rodgers gonna go down. It's

680
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: like five or six top best quarterback of all time.

681
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: He's won four m v ps. He's like a seven

682
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 1: time first team All Pro. Maybe it's four. I think

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00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: Peyton's seven. One super Bowl and regular season hardware. What

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Speaker 1: does Mahomes have to do to enter the Brady Manny

685
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: Brady Manning legacy? Remember Peyton Manning. The difference is Peyton

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Speaker 1: had gone to multiple other Super Bowls. Right. He went

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Speaker 1: to the Saints one where he lost in Miami. Uh,

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Speaker 1: maybe he won the one in Miami. I don't know

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Speaker 1: where he played, the Saints one in Tampa, the one

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00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,720
Speaker 1: where not Jerry Porter, but Terry Porter. Terry Terry Porter's

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Speaker 1: NBA player, Tracy Porter. I think Tracy Porter's slought was

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00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: slot corner picked him off. Remember that moment. I remember

693
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: my jaw at the floor and Peyton throw it to him.

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00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: He's like, oh my, he just saw pick six. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And then he went again with the Broncos. So going

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Speaker 1: to super Bowls and losing them, like you get credit

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Speaker 1: for those. And that's the one thing crazy about Rodger's

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Speaker 1: career is He's been to all these NFC championship games

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Speaker 1: and never won any of the games. Now, many people

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Speaker 1: will argue, you know, his defenses were bad, he was.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he would have been the heavy favorite. Last year,

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Speaker 1: he was a six point favorite against the Niners. That's

703
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: an all time bad loss. Two years ago he's a

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00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: favorite against Tampa. Uh. You know the Seattle game that

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00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: they lost was a disaster. Now, they might have been

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Speaker 1: the underdog in that game because it was on the road.

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00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 1: But I just think you guys need to get to

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Speaker 1: Patrick's already been to one more super Bowl than an

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Speaker 1: everyone has Patrick. You know, obviously to get he's got

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Speaker 1: to do it for a long period of time. But

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Speaker 1: from a team standpoint, already accomplished more. He's got a

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Speaker 1: two Super Bowls. Aaron's only been to one. And I

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Speaker 1: think Aaron's was last year, his fifth or six NFC

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Speaker 1: championship game. I think it might have been his fifth.

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Speaker 1: Patrion already been a four, so from a team standpoint,

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Speaker 1: Mom is pretty accomplished as a teammate and as the

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Speaker 1: quarterback of the Kanda Chiefs. I was at Davis football camp.

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Speaker 1: You keep mentioning Davis High on the pot twenty two

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00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 1: years ago. I was a Davis football camp. We slept

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Speaker 1: on the floor of the gym and it was hotter

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Speaker 1: than ship. Did you guys run the wing tea or

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00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,959
Speaker 1: was it a different camp? Oh, we ran the wing tea.

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Speaker 1: You're just you're listening to one of the pulling guards.

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Speaker 1: I would not consider myself Quinn Nelson, but we ran

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Speaker 1: the wing tea and it gave little guys like me

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Speaker 1: a chance to pull and kick out defense events or

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Speaker 1: get tossed on the ground but attempt to Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: ran the wing tea. I love a good Davis High

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Speaker 1: football camp. They actually just lost the other night Vacaville

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Speaker 1: High School boot Devils and Shambles. Okay, last question. Listen

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Speaker 1: to the pod every episode going into the season. Who

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00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: is the most underrated quarterback, wide receiver, running back, defense

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Speaker 1: and overall team that we should be on the lookout

734
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Speaker 1: for and for all the fantasy guys who is the

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00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: must draft this year in the first round. I think

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's gonna have a big as season. I think

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson is gonna be a monster. I expect Lamar

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Speaker 1: Jackson to go nuts. Herbert too, but I think most

739
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,720
Speaker 1: people specter. I think Lamar Jackson is gonna come coming

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00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 1: from vengeance. Uh. Most underrated quarterback. Honestly, it might be Cousins.

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Speaker 1: If you told me Cousins throws forty touchdowns this year,

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00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: I believe you. Underrated wide receiver. I don't know. There's

743
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: so many running back defense I have to think about these.

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00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: To me, the teams that were sleeping on probably the

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00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: Colts a little bit um and I you know, are

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Speaker 1: we sleeping on the Ravens. I'm not great segment you

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Speaker 1: guys did on the running back. Trace Surman, longtime listener,

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Speaker 1: first time d m R question for the mail back.

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Speaker 1: What is the process for practice squad guys and the

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Speaker 1: ability for other teams to poach players out the practice squad?

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00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: So when a guy gets cut right now, if I

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Speaker 1: cut John Middlecoff tomorrow, he's an undrafted free agent, I

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00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: go to waivers that day and I have twenty four

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00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,479
Speaker 1: hours to go through waivers. It's actually a little less

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00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: whatever twenty hours if any team claims me right now

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00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: is a bad example because you had ninety man rosters.

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Speaker 1: But when the season starts, or that final cutdown, when

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Speaker 1: we cut down to fifty three players, if John Middlecoff

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Speaker 1: gets cut and I'm the Jags and I want to

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Speaker 1: claim John Middlecoff and you and the Buffalo Bill's cut him,

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Speaker 1: I have to put John Middlecoff on the on my

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00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: fifty three man roster. So any player you cut, so

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Speaker 1: obviously they're gonna be you know, fifty three to eighty five.

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Speaker 1: What's the math there? How many players are you looking at?

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Speaker 1: So over a thousand players will be cut when those

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Speaker 1: players are cut. Veteran guys, if you're a vested veteran,

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Speaker 1: you're not subject to waivers. I'm pretty sure, my my,

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Speaker 1: this time of year, yeah, I mean during the season,

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Speaker 1: you're definitely not. Not exactly sure. There are some different rules.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you are, but I don't think you are. Like

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Speaker 1: if I cut J. J. Watt, I don't. I don't

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Speaker 1: think J. J. Watt goes to waivers. I think he

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Speaker 1: immediately becomes a free agent. Obviously he's not gonna get cut.

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Speaker 1: But I'm using him asn example because I'm in Arizona.

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Speaker 1: I just saw that he said a snake gave him

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Speaker 1: COVID kidding joking around, but it was a funny tweet.

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00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,720
Speaker 1: So if I want to claim an undrafted free agent,

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Speaker 1: I have to put him on my fifty three man roster. Now,

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Speaker 1: if I just want to bring him on my practice

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Speaker 1: squad but he wasn't on my team during the fall camp,

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Speaker 1: I can offer him, go, hey, I want to bring

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Speaker 1: you to my practice squad, And if his team wants

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Speaker 1: to keep him on the practice squad, they can choose

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Speaker 1: to keep him. So it's kind of on them what

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Speaker 1: they want to do. Right, And and there is no

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Speaker 1: salary capital practice squad guys, right, A salary cap year

787
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: is like a hundred and sixty five you know if

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Speaker 1: if you're a practice squad guy and you stay on

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Speaker 1: the roster like a lot of those guys get cut

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Speaker 1: on and off the season. But I think it's like

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Speaker 1: a hundred sixty dollars. Well, I can pay him four

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars if I want to keep him, So there

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00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: are ways to manipulate it. I can keep guys on

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Speaker 1: my roster for more money if other teams are interested.

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00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: But ultimately, when you cut a young player, whether you

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Speaker 1: drafted him in the four, fifth, six, seventh round, undrafted

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00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,399
Speaker 1: free agent that you kind of like and you plan

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00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: on bringing aft your practice squad, you have to be

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Speaker 1: prepared and okay to lose him because there is a

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Speaker 1: chance when you cut him you will never see him again.

801
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: Like a big talk with the forty Niners right now,

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Speaker 1: is Brock Purty Mr Relevant the Iowa state quarterback? It

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00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: turns out Kyle Shanahan is smitten loves him. Well, they

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Speaker 1: gave Sudfeld two million dollars, the dude that everyone claimed

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00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,439
Speaker 1: that Doug Peterson used the tank, so they're not gonna

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Speaker 1: cut him. But Brock Purdy now might be their backup quarterback.

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00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: But even if he doesn't win the backup quarterback, if

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00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: they didn't want to keep him three because they want

809
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 1: to have a roster spot, if they put Brock Purty

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Speaker 1: on waivers and some other team, let's just say, I

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Speaker 1: mean a million of his coaches are around, Mike McDaniel

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Speaker 1: claims to make him the backup quarterback or the third

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Speaker 1: string quarterback, He's gone, So it's not worth it. If

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Speaker 1: you really like a guy to put on waivers because

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Speaker 1: if another guy claims him and puts him on their roster,

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Speaker 1: you never see him again. So it's just a it's

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Speaker 1: a balancing act. You kind of have to have a

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Speaker 1: feel of like who could get claimed and some guys

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Speaker 1: that you go, I don't think this guy is gonna

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Speaker 1: get claimed. Might Typically running backs are not gonna get claimed.

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Speaker 1: Wide receivers probably not gonna get claimed. But if you

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Speaker 1: cut a tackle who's pretty talented offensive or defensive tackle,

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Speaker 1: I mean I'd say there's a shot if they played

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Speaker 1: well in the preseason, they get claimed. Dbs claimed immediately.

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00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: Quarterbacks like Brock Party, the Niners cannot cut. If the

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Speaker 1: Niners cut Brock Party, he will get claimed. Now they're

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Speaker 1: not going to cut them. But and I'm sure all

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Speaker 1: of you guys that have watched your team this preseason,

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Speaker 1: there's a couple of guys like, I think this guy

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Speaker 1: is pretty good. Well, if the guy's playing in the

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Speaker 1: first second quarter and he's a backup and he's a

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Speaker 1: six round pick or an undrafted free agent, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's pretty risky, you know, if you try to play

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Speaker 1: a numbers game. It was like, I think we can

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Speaker 1: sneak him on the practice squad. Probably not. And this

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Speaker 1: is not Al Davis where you can hide people the Internet,

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Speaker 1: social media, there's no hide in anybody now all the

838
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: there's no I remember Ryan Griggs used to be like

839
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Speaker 1: find diamonds in the rough. It's like it's fucking two

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Speaker 1: thous the Internet rivals Wikipedia. There's no diamonds in the

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Speaker 1: rough unless you're like the Eagles went to Australia to

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Speaker 1: get their left tackle, like played rugby. Yeah, I say

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00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 1: that's a little bit diamond in the rough. Though everyone

844
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: knew the guy, they just had the balls to draft them.

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Speaker 1: But there's no such thing as like, hey I found

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Speaker 1: this guy at the Arizona State no one saw him play. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's like that that would never exist. So yeah, no

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Speaker 1: diamonds in the roughs. Appreciate everyone listening. Have a great day,

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