1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Yo, Welcome to another episode of It's Up That Podcast. 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: I am your active and attractive host for another episode 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: of the fastest growing podcasts on the market. Right now, Man, 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: I want to say thank y'all for tuning in tapping 5 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: in with me. Man, it's always a blessing. I got 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: the best supporters in the world, as you do know, 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: or YouTube. Now that I've analyzed my business, YouTube is 8 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: my fifth leg in regards to how I communicate to 9 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: my audience. 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We make TikTok a priority because 19 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: those avenues for us have been very dynamic, and so 20 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: we accept that and we appreciate that, and we look 21 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: at that for what it is worth right. This has 22 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: been a very dynamic week in media. There's a lot 23 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: to talk about, but there's a specific way that I'm 24 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: going to approach some of it because it's so much. Right. 25 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,839 Speaker 1: We got Meg and Tory trial going on. We got 26 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: Gunna has been released and a couple of the otherwise 27 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: sale individuals have took him please thuggers fighting the case. Still, 28 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: we got that to speak about. We got academics getting 29 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: into ditty business something I don't understand what the women 30 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: type of thing, and so much other stuff. If you 31 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: have not, I would encourage you right now to go 32 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: see the No Jumper Adam twenty two interview with Big Loan. 33 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: This is a very good conversation. It gets a little heated, 34 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: but it's a very great conversation. Go see that. Also, 35 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: go see the Little Baby interview with me. Go see 36 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: Rich Homie Kahan interview with me. Go see doctor Uman 37 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: Johnson interview with me. Right, So we're just we're doing 38 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: a lot of work, right, So make sure you tap 39 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: in now it's up that podcast. Man. For those of 40 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: y'all who don't know, this is why I give my 41 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: true opinion. This is where we really put the game down. 42 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: Search for the Information Digests. What's happening, look at it 43 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,119 Speaker 1: in the way and try to and try to explain 44 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: what it is that we're looking at. Right, let's get 45 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: right into it. Magna Stallion and Tory lanes trial. It's 46 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: now taking place. For those of you who are unaware, 47 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: Tory Lanez is now on trial for shooting MEGANA. Stallion 48 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: in the foot. She had been found on the West 49 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: coast with bullet fragments in her foot. What the story 50 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: is is that the Kardashians Kylie Jenner had a party. 51 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: Megna Stallion was invited. She invited Tory, Megan her friends 52 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: and was there. Tory gets there, something happens to what 53 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: Tory is flirting or something happens to what. Some commotion 54 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: is caused and Meg them are asked to leave. They 55 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 1: don't want to tell Meg, I guess because of what 56 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: they consider her ego to be like that yo. They 57 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: just want us to leave, so they make up some 58 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: story that, hey, your wig slipping. They know you don't 59 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: want to get caught with your wig slipping. Let's spend 60 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: some time on that. It's fucked up when the people 61 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: around you and I ain't talking about but love it. 62 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: But just think about this. The people around you can't 63 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: come tell you these people who house city is don't 64 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: want us in here no more. They got to come 65 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: tell you some shit about your appearance to get you 66 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: to leave. That's how they look at you. Man, she 67 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie, So just tell her wig slipping. Go 68 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: past that, and that doesn't speak to her character. That 69 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: speaks to how help people view her. I don't know 70 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: what that says. But your people would rather come tell 71 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: you a wig is slipping versus Yo, these people don't 72 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: want us here. I would rather my people come say yo, loan. 73 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: Then folks acting like they don't want us here? What 74 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: nigga pack our ship? Now? I don't care who house 75 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: it is. Nah, These houses start to look the same 76 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: when they get over a certain amount of dollar amount, 77 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: they just get more rooms. Like yo, bro, now you 78 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. In the field of the house 79 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: is different like somebody like Drake when you go up 80 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: that level, like you know, certain mattresses and shit, that's different. 81 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: But you'd be like, nah, then I don't get for 82 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: who house? Then you don't want us? See what we gone? 83 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: My people meet? Now welcome went on na we don't 84 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: got the fight in the aga about none of that. 85 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: Then folks say they don't want they if they even 86 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 1: acting like they don't want us over, I got to go. 87 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: I'm one of them can So they get into the car. 88 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: Now in the trial, what's being said is that Meg 89 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: ordered someone to go to her car or the car 90 00:04:56,520 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: she arrived there, and get some luggage, some bags and 91 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: put it in tourist car. So when it was time 92 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: to leave, she left with Tory her and her best friend. 93 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: A argument ensues about Tory Lay's behavior back at the party, like, yo, 94 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 1: you was out there clowning who you thank you? Is? 95 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: This is what alleges happened. I don't know what's happening. 96 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: We're trying to just deal with the news that's out there. 97 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: So allegedly they have a conversation that turned heated. According 98 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: to what's being stated in trial, the heated conversation turned 99 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: into whose position in the music industry was warranted and 100 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: recognized and whose wasn't. Some kind of way, a gun 101 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: gets involved. She ends up shot. She alleged that Torrey 102 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: shot or Torres says he did not shoot her. She 103 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,679 Speaker 1: knows I didn't shoot her. The friend at first said 104 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: Tory shot her. So this is at the beginning. The 105 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: friend Kelsey said she saw Tory with the gun. He 106 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 1: was upset. He even pulled her out certain things. So 107 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,799 Speaker 1: it was just a wild story. Was a lot saying 108 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: on social media. Meg went live, Tory went live, Rock 109 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: Nation was involved, like it was a back and forth thing. 110 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: They have now finally went to trial. We're not gonna 111 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: go over each piece of information because this is this 112 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: is a five or six day trial, so in efforts 113 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: to try to sum it up, we're gonna kind of 114 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: just look through some things that was posted and just 115 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: kind of talk through those things. Okay, so first day 116 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 1: you got this, it's pretty easy. Then the defense comes up, 117 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: and man it gets spicy. First the defense goes, they're 118 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: not telling you about half of what's going on. The 119 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: most important thing they're not telling about. There not telling 120 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 1: you about an eyewitness who saw two women fighting, Kelsey 121 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: and Meg, and so let's talk about why they're them 122 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: to her fighting. Let's talk about how she was in 123 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,679 Speaker 1: the front seat, the gun was put in the front seat. 124 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 1: Let's talk about how she might have gunpowder. She does 125 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,679 Speaker 1: have gun powder. Let's talk about how this has nothing 126 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: to do with the fight between Tory and Meg, and 127 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: everything to do with the fight between Meg and Kelsey, 128 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 1: and then the defense starts dropping the bombs. He basically 129 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: says this that they're in the car. Yeah, they left, 130 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: but do you know why they left. They left because 131 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: Kylie and Tory were in the pool together, and Kelsey 132 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: and Meg both felt some type of way about that, 133 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: to the point that Meg fell real at least some 134 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: type of way about that, and she was really trying 135 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: to go to the point that eventually, because of how 136 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: Meg is acting. This is according to the defense, Kylie Jenner, 137 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: Joseph Meghtalian says, it's time for you to leave. They 138 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: all leave. The defense's point is what happens in the 139 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: car is this Tory questions Kelsey, Hey, Kelsey, why are 140 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: you backing up Meg for me trying to get it 141 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: on with Kylie Jenner. Meg has been snaking men from 142 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: you your whole life. I hooked up with you, Kelsey, 143 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: and then Meg went behind your back and hooked up 144 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: with me. And Kelsey this is not the first time 145 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: you had been hooking up with Ben Simmons. Meg went 146 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: behind your back and hooked up with Ben Simmons, you 147 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: have been hooking up with the baby. Meg went behind 148 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: your back and hooked up with the baby, and so 149 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: the defense dis dropped all these grenades. The crowd has captivated. 150 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: The jury's like, oh what's going on? And there's every 151 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: reason to believe that there could have been a fight here, 152 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: not between Tory and Meg, but between Meg and Kelsey, 153 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: and the shooting could have then Tory, it could have 154 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: been done by any one of the other people in 155 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: that car. What does all of this mean, Well, I'll 156 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: tell you a couple of things. First, Corey Gamble, Chris 157 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: Jenner's husband is going to testify, so this will continue 158 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: to be must CTV to the judges. Terrific. I expect 159 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: the very fair trial the lawyers on the defense side 160 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: of terrific. I don't know what the government lawyer was 161 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: doing giving an opening presentation that made it seem like 162 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: the most open and shut case ever, when in fact 163 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: there are a huge questions, including an eyewitness who saw 164 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: two women fighting suggesting that you have to explain that 165 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: theory to the jury and you didn't. So I don't 166 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: love the prosecution's opening in that regard. Stay tuned will 167 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: have the full coverage here, it's up and it's stuck 168 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: in the Tory Lanes trial. So that's the prosecution. Okay, 169 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: so that's the defense opening argument. So I guess I 170 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: missed the prosecution opening arguments here. It is the prosecutions 171 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: intension that the fights started in the car between Megan 172 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: and Tory because Megan allegedly said that Tory music wasn't 173 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: no good. The prosects also stated that uh uh, individual 174 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 1: by name with Jawan Smith drove Tory and Megan to 175 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 1: the party. The d stated in opening that Tory and 176 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: Tension that the fight. So again, the first thing that 177 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: we noticed with this is that they came out and 178 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: stated that Meg was not truthful on the Gail King interview. 179 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: The reason that that's important is because when you're dealing 180 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: with these cases, all you had it have is your 181 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: word Outwitness testimony although damaging a lot of times, especially 182 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: the black people, but in court you gotta really understand 183 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: and if you do research, how unreliable our witness testimony is, 184 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: especially when violence occurs. The human brain does something when 185 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 1: it's heightened, right, and it has very limited memory space 186 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: to acknowledge exactly what's happening in real time. Although things 187 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: seem slow, they're moving extremely fast, and after that moment, 188 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: according to research, you really don't retain that information in 189 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: the right way. The case study is nine to eleven 190 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: that I was reading, and with nine to eleven, it's 191 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: so many different accounts as to what people see. And 192 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: this often happens when you deal with these disasters or 193 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 1: you deal with some of these these very intense situations. 194 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: Dealing with that meg on a stand a black woman 195 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: on the standpoint that a dude saying he shot me 196 00:10:55,080 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: is a very first of all, it's a very intimate thing, right, 197 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: it's very emotional. At State Farm, we're committed to uplifting 198 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: black futures. In collaboration with organizations like one hundred Black 199 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: Men and National Urban League. 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You understand now. The way 216 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 1: they try to chop at that is they say, well, 217 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: hold on, you may be playing a game. You said this, 218 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: and now you're saying this. You said Dan, and now 219 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: you're saying that you said this, and now you're saying this. 220 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: And so for her side of things to come out 221 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: immediately and put that out and say, look, we know 222 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: she said this, but we're gonna go ahead and put 223 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: on the record that there was an intimate relationship. I 224 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: think she may have been coached at Look, that's gonna 225 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: come out one way or another. He may got video 226 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: you don't know about. He may got have you ever 227 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: text him something freaky and nasty or told him, can't wait, 228 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: that was so good? Least, like, have you ever and 229 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: she probably I don't even know, probably so because you 230 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 1: know how women there, you know what I'm saying. Now 231 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: you're giving her that lumber, you should hear. Yeah, she 232 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: has send something to your number. Now you're giving her 233 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: that lumber. She all sends something to your number. So 234 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: sometimes I just think they probably advised her like there's 235 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: no need to keep trying to hold on to that. Now, 236 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: what this does for juror it's say, well, if you 237 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: said that and that wasn't true, what else maybe not true? 238 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: That's why I think that was damaging or not damaging, 239 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: but very important. Let's look at what else happened that day. Again, 240 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: we're just going through some of the stuff. And this 241 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: is when they announced that Kelsey Harris will testify that 242 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: Tory Lane shot me. Prosecutor said in opening statement that 243 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: Kelsey Harris will testify that Tory shot a close friend, 244 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: that her close friend was shot by the defendant, which 245 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: is Tory Tory Lane. And this was just day one again, 246 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: it was filled with it. It was like a roller 247 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: coaster the whole to me. The whole prosecution in case 248 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: was just kind of weird. Magna Stallion reportedly emotional after 249 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: being asked first question on the stand. So now Megna 250 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: Stallion had to testify again. I just spoke to the 251 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: eyewitness how important it is to this situation. But when examined, 252 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: eyewitness testimony is a very, very non reliable resource. Megna 253 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: Stallion called as witness at eleven fifteen am. Her voice cracked. 254 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: I imagine this to be hard for her. Right, my 255 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: best friend, somebody ain't talked to many years in here, 256 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: This dude who I was fucking couple of diggers, I mean, 257 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: fucking is involved in this. I was hurt, shot harm Right, 258 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: I'm on the stand. They saying I'm lying, I'm holding 259 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: on and I'm telling the truth. And she said certain 260 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: things like all men in the industry went against her, 261 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: but her voice cracked her first question when asked if 262 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: she knew day Star Peterson, which is Tory Lane, she 263 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: quickly regained compulsion. Asked if she was nervous, she was replied, 264 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: I just don't feel good. I can't believe I had 265 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: to come up and duties. This is my support system 266 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: and I'm here too. There you goes the opening statements. 267 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: Opening statements are still actually going. We have to pause 268 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: midway through for lunch. Better than TV. If you watch 269 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: the prosecution's opening statement, you would say guilty. If you 270 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: then watched the defensis opening statement, you would say, what 271 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: the hell is the prosecution thinking charging him? Basically, the 272 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: prosecution started with this story. They said that, Hey, they're 273 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: all at the party and Tory is leaving the party 274 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: with Meg. They're in the car and argument breaks out, 275 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: during which Meg says and insults his skills as a 276 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: rap artist. This leads to a situation where she gets 277 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: out of the car and he shoots at her feet 278 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: and yells, dance bitch, and then she ends up at 279 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: a hospital and a doctor takes out three fragments of 280 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: bullet wounds from her foot. Now if you just here, 281 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: and the prosecution says that Kelsey, the other woman in 282 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: the car, is going to testify that Tory shot Mick, 283 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: and Kelsey has a text message where she texts somebody 284 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: that hey, Tory shot Meg. And then the rest of 285 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: the prosecution's case is based on all these calls and 286 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: texts where Tory's like, oh, I'm so sorry, Oh I'm 287 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: so drunk. He never says that I shot him, and 288 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: she's like, Oh, I'm just so sorry, I'm so drunk. 289 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: So question what he's apologizing for. So that's the prosecution's case. 290 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: Seems pretty easy. Then the defense comes up, and man, 291 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: it gets spicy. First, the defense goes, they're not telling 292 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: you about half of what's going on. The most important 293 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: thing they're not telling you about. They're not telling you 294 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: about an eyewitness who saw two women fighting, Kelsey and Meg, 295 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: and so let's talk about why they are them too 296 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: are fighting. Let's talk about how she was in the 297 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: front seat, the gun was caught in the front seat. 298 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: Let's talk about how she might have gunpowder. She does 299 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: have gunpowder. Let's talk about how this has nothing to 300 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: do with the fight between Tory and Meg and everything 301 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: to do with the fight between Meg and Kelsey. And 302 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: then the defense starts dropping the bombs. He basically says this, 303 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: they're in the car. Yeah, they left, but do you 304 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: know why they left. They left because Kylie and Tory 305 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: were in the pool together, and Kelsey and Meg both 306 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: felt some type of way about that, to the point 307 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: that Meg fell real at least some type of way 308 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: about that, and she was really trying to go to 309 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: the point that eventually because of how Meg is acting. 310 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: This is according to the defense, Kylie Jenner Joseph Meghantallian says, 311 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: it's time for you to leave. They all leave. The 312 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: defense's point is what happens in the car is this 313 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 1: Tory questions Kelsey, Hey, Kelsey, why are you backing up 314 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 1: Meg for me trying to get it on with Kylie Jenner. 315 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: Meg has been snaking men from you your whole life. 316 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: I hooked up with you, Kelsey, and then Meg went 317 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: behind your back and hooked up with me. And Kelsey, 318 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 1: this is not the first time you have been hooking 319 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: up with Ben Simmons. Meg, point behind your back and 320 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: hooked up with Ben Simmons. You have been hooking up 321 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: with the baby. Meg went behind your back and hooked 322 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: up with the baby. And so the defense stars dropping 323 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: all these grenades. The crowd has captivated. The jury's like, 324 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: oh what's going on? And there's every reason to believe 325 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: that there could have been a fight here, not between 326 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: Tory and Meg, but between Meg and Kelsey, and the 327 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: shooting could have not been Tory. It could have been 328 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: done by any one of the other people in that car. 329 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: What does all of this mean. Well, I'll tell you 330 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: a couple of things. First, Cory Gamble, Chris Jenner's husband 331 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: is going to testify, so this will continue to be 332 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 1: must CTV. To the judge's terrific, I expect the very 333 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 1: fair trial. The lawyers on the defense side of terrific. 334 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 1: I don't know what the government lawyer was doing giving 335 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 1: an opening presentation that made it seem like the most 336 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: open and shut case ever, when in fact there are 337 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: huge questions, including an eyewitness who saw two women fighting 338 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: suggesting that you have to explain that theory to the 339 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: jury and you didn't. So I don't love the prosecution's 340 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: opening in that regard. Stay tuned will have the full 341 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: coverage here. It's up and it's stuck in the Tory 342 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: Lanes trial. Freaking the Tory Lanes trial we have. Let's 343 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: just be clear, right, we don't know what happened with 344 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: dismaging this dalliant Tory Lanes thing. I am maybe as 345 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: how I was raised, but I'm uncomfortable with the amount 346 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: of men. It's like kind of taking a hard stance 347 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 1: on a on the woman that's been harmed. I think 348 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: maybe because I was raised by my mother single mother, 349 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,719 Speaker 1: that I may lend a little bit more grace than 350 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: maybe I should, And I'm not sure, but it's just 351 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 1: it just feels uncomfortable when I hear guys scream at 352 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: the top of their lungs about this young lady being 353 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 1: shot and how she's a liar. Now, let's be clear, 354 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: if you're lying about being shot, that does need to 355 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: be some ramification. If you are lying in efforts to 356 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: get someone in trouble for no reason, then of course 357 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: there's some accountability that needs to be placed upon you. 358 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: But at the same time, nobody will really never know 359 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 1: what happened at night, and I'm just kind of uncomfortable 360 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: with the amount of men that's just okay with being 361 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 1: like this bitch lied or whatever the case. It's just 362 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: a weird feeling. Let's look at what else happened on 363 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: day one. All right, we're back with the rest of 364 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: the update and Tory Lane. So we are taking our 365 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: afternoon break. There's going to be more testimony at the 366 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: end of the day, but right now, when we catch 367 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: you up on what's happened since lunch. The defense continued 368 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: and concluded their opening statement. There all right, we're back 369 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: with the rest of the update and Tory lane. So 370 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: we are taking our afternoon now again, what we're doing, y'all, 371 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: we're going through the day one, right, so we're rewinding 372 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: in efforts to kind of comb through any pertinent information 373 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 1: to kind of see how we got to where we 374 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: are about to tell us I'm covering this now just 375 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: for a time stamp when she dropped and admitted that 376 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: this argument started with Tory saying to Meg, hey, why 377 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: are you snaking your friend like this and basically revealing 378 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: that he had hooked up with both of them, that 379 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: they had been cheated on by him, and this sort 380 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: of led into the whole big fight. At one point 381 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: she gets out of the car, but then she did 382 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 1: get back in because they convinced her to get back in. 383 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: And then we get to the shooting. And here there 384 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 1: was some shocking stuff. So here's some of the key stuff. 385 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: One she described Meg described that, hey, look, I got 386 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 1: out of the car. I looked back over me, and 387 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: then I saw Tory holding a gun pointing it at me, 388 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: and he shot me after he said dance bitch. But 389 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: then this is the prosecution asking the questions and even 390 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 1: in the prosecution asking the question, she said, stuff that 391 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: makes you stratch your head, which leads you to believe 392 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: that what's going to happen. Under cross examination, the prosecution 393 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: asked her this, where was Kelsey when Tory was doing 394 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 1: the shooting? You know what? Meg said? Meg said, I 395 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: didn't see Kelsey. I only saw Tory. Question was she 396 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: in your field? Division? Because if she's right there, where 397 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 1: was she? If you can't answer that question, that doesn't 398 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: seem like it adds up, especially not in a case 399 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: where the theory from the other side is that there 400 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 1: was a struggle and that Kelsey was the one who 401 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: led off the gun. If the victim can't tell you 402 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: where Kelsey is, that seems highly problematic to him. The 403 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: other parts of the testimony that were a little bit 404 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: confusing is they asked her, you know, where was Tory. 405 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: Was he standing on the car? Was he standing on 406 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,479 Speaker 1: the ground? And she said, well, he was shooting up 407 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: over the window, but I don't know if he was 408 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: standing on something. And they asked her how tall is he? 409 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: She said, oh, I think he's like five three or 410 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: five four. He's taller than that, but that's not tall 411 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: enough to over the window. Of an escalade while standing 412 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: on the ground, and then they asked her, hey, was 413 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: he on the passenger door or was he on the 414 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,479 Speaker 1: front the front door, the back door that's the day. 415 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: She said, he's on the passenger side, and they were like, 416 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 1: all right, well was it the front door the back 417 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: door side? I don't The other part of her testimony 418 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: that I found a little confusing and didn't mesh with 419 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: what the prosecutor said in his opening. The prosecutor said 420 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: in his opening that Kelsey went to where Meg was, 421 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 1: and that after Kelsey went to where Meg was, after 422 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: Meg had been shot, that Tory was approaching them. Meg's 423 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: testimony today was different. Mex testimony was not that she 424 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: got shot, she went away, and then Kelsey went to 425 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 1: where she was, and then Tory came at the two 426 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: of them. No, Meg's testimony is she got shot, she 427 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: went away, and then she saw Kelsey and Tory both 428 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 1: coming to them. Again, does not add up. We finished 429 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: with why did you not tell the police the truth? 430 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: And this was very interesting, Whereas typically prosecutors are in 431 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 1: the business of supporting police officers, here they elicited a 432 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: testimony where Meg said, look, I didn't tell the police 433 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: the truth because this was around the time George Floyd 434 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: had been shot, and I thought if I told them 435 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: the truth, they were going to shoot Tory. I didn't 436 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 1: feel safe with the police. I am and I thought 437 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: this was kind of weird, but she said it. She said, 438 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: I'm a member of the black community, and in my community, 439 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: we don't cooperate. What do I think. I think that 440 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,239 Speaker 1: the rest of the direct testimony is going to come out. 441 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: It will be interesting. I think the defense attorney has 442 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 1: a lot of room. Hey, what's up, bro. I think 443 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: the defense attorney has a lot of room to poke 444 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: holes in the story. And I think the rest of 445 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: the witnesses are going to say things that the defense 446 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: attorney is going to have to show that it doesn't 447 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: all add up that if Kelsey was right there, how 448 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: is Megna Stallion going and telling you that when I 449 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: turned around and I saw Tory shot me, I have 450 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 1: no idea where Kelsey was. Day two of the Tory 451 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: Lanes trial is underway. It started with Megda Stallion testifying. 452 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to take you through what she testified about 453 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 1: in the morning. We're currently on lunch break. She's going 454 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 1: to come back and complete her testimony this afternoon. It 455 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: started with questions about Tory Lanes. She testified that she 456 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: knew him only for a short time leading up to 457 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: this incident where friends. She was asked, where you intimate? 458 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: She said yes. She was asked where you exclusive? She 459 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 1: said quite happily no. Then they asked her about her 460 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: relationship with Kelsey. She said that she's known Kelsey Shan's 461 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: freshman year of college. How do you know her? How 462 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: would you describe the relationship? I found her answer very interesting. 463 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 1: She said, I quote, we did everything together. They asked her, Hey, 464 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:22,919 Speaker 1: how do you feel about being here today? She was 465 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 1: struggling through the testimony. I was a little surprised at 466 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 1: her answer. She said, I don't feel good. I can't 467 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: believe I have to come do this. I always tell 468 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: people technique is better than talent, right, So you see 469 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: the prosecution try to beat the defense to the punch 470 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: in regards to you not gonna paint as aloud. We're 471 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 1: gonna paint her as someone that was afraid to tell 472 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: the cops exactly what happened. Now, wherever the truth lies 473 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: in that, that's where it lies. But this is a 474 00:24:55,119 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: missy situation. So you got almost everybody called with some 475 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: kind of inconsistency, and in court that creates a very 476 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: distorted picture. And when things are not clear, you can 477 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: even either have a mistrial or you can have a 478 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: not guilty. You need a clear pitch as to someone 479 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: doing something and a pointed directly to that individual. And 480 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: with this being all over the place like that, it 481 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: is getting messy. Now. This is just day two. Day 482 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 1: two of the Tory Lanes trial is underway. It started 483 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: with Mega Stallion testifying. I'm going to take you through 484 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: what she testified about in the morning. We're currently on 485 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: lunch break. She's going to come back and complete her 486 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,959 Speaker 1: testimony this afternoon. It started with questions about Tory Lanes. 487 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: She testified that she knew him only for a short 488 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 1: time leading up to this incident. They were friends. She 489 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 1: was asked, where you intimate? She said yes. She was 490 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 1: asked where you exclusive? She said quite happily no. Then 491 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: they asked her about her relationship with Kelsey. She said 492 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: that she's known Kelsey San's freshman year of college. How 493 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 1: do you know her? How would you describe the relationship. 494 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: I found her answer very interesting. She said, I quote, 495 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: we did everything together. They asked her, Hey, how do 496 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: you feel about being here today? She was struggling through 497 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: the testimony. I was a little surprised at her answer. 498 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 1: She said, I don't feel good. I can't believe I 499 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: have to come do this, not really sounding like a 500 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: victim to me, she's a strong black woman. That's the 501 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: image that the jury I think would have gotten of her. 502 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 1: And I expected her to say something more like I'm 503 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,199 Speaker 1: here for justice. I'm here to tell my truth that 504 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 1: man shot me. They asked her about when they left 505 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 1: the party and when Tory got there, So she explained 506 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: that initially she had gotten there with a larger group 507 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: of people, then later she asked Tory to come. By 508 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: the time Tory got there, it was a lot fewer people. Also, 509 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 1: I want to say to this, for such a hot 510 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: profile individual like making the stallue, I would imagine it. 511 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: For the last sixty days she's been in communication with Lloyd, 512 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: used to try to prep for being presentable on the 513 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 1: staying right, because what you're about to see now is 514 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 1: her at a break time come back in, and what 515 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: it seems like is she's been told that like, hey, 516 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 1: you need to appear strong, appear this, and I do 517 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: believe that you need that kind of pep talk, right, 518 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: even if you are telling the truth and you're a victim, 519 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: because you do want to seem like again a certain 520 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: way to the jury. Because this whole shit is a game. 521 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: I want people to know. This is never about the truth. 522 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: That's why the lawyers would have you where this color 523 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: do this? Dude? If it's about the truth, man, all 524 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: that shit don't matter. But it ain't about the truth. 525 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,719 Speaker 1: It's about the perception and who can dress theirs up 526 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: the best way. That's why you see two people come 527 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: in that way. The driver know where to be found. 528 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: Right to me, that's important to the case. He's the 529 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 1: only other witness that has no interest. He didn't have 530 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: a fight with anyone, right, And so for the prosecution 531 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: to even grab a case in which they didn't speak 532 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 1: to the person who didn't even have any interests in 533 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: telling a lie in that time, that's even crazy to 534 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,239 Speaker 1: me because they could have waited. I'm not sure what 535 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: the statue is on that, but they could have waited 536 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: and let the driver think it's cool here around grab 537 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 1: him one day, Hey, we need you for questioning. But 538 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: they rushed to it. They rushed in and done it, 539 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 1: and now to me, they are in a very foggy 540 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: situation as confused as I was after the initial smoke 541 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: clear because at first I was emotionally attached to Tory 542 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: even speaking, because I'm thinking, Yo, what if that's a 543 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: woman in my family? Man, you can't be coming out 544 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: on stage, none of that. Man. Don't do that to 545 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: no woman in my family unless you you cut like that. 546 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: And some of y'all niggas claim to be cut like that, 547 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: you know, so if you cut like that, play with that. 548 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: Let's do that. But nigga, if you want them niggas 549 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: that don't really want to be you know, yeah, now, 550 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: don't do that. And I felt when I seen it, 551 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: not not just even popping up on stage, but there 552 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: was Instagram posts in certain things while I was like, 553 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: oh shit. 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Like a good neighbor state farm is there. 562 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: I can only think about what if it's my old 563 00:29:54,880 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: lady's shot or whatever happened at night, and it's a 564 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: nigga on there that because if I'm the boyfriend or 565 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: I'm the husband, no, I'm the father, or I'm the cousin, 566 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: No I'm the brother. Oh, I'm the love one of 567 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: that woman. I'm gonna believe her. Probably up into this point, 568 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: they're probably looking at everything like what the hell is 569 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: going on? But when she initially and then you popping up, 570 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: it's like I was like, yo, Tory, what you're doing? Man, 571 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: you can't be doing that. So I was emotionally involved 572 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: from that way. But then when you zoom out light, Oh, 573 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: so Tory was talking because he basically was like, I 574 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: didn't do it, and Nan comes out, Oh, they were 575 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: fucking oh this is momentsia. Oh so there's a relationship. 576 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: And then he popped it out on her. So imagine 577 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: that loon in the car with you and your home girl, right, 578 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: your home girl, and got mad because I met the 579 00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: rich white girl. You know she? Yeah, I met her. Yeah, 580 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: I'll put y'all loud about it right now. You know, 581 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: tories at Kylie. He trying to get that Kylie. So 582 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: what's happening there? She doesn't caught feelings. Her people won't 583 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: even tell her. And this is what I'm getting off 584 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: the testimony, not what I'm coming up with because I 585 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: can care less. I have a podcast, so it's instrumental 586 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: for me to talk about these things. But her people 587 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: understand that, oh, she catching feelings, she getting upsets, she 588 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: getting mad Kylie them maybe they arguing and shit Kyling. 589 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: Them want her to leave. We can't tell her that 590 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: they want her to leave. We gotta go light to 591 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: hug or your wigs slipping? Man? Yo? Look man, yo 592 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: wish We know you don't want no man to see 593 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: you right, So now you dip out because you think 594 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: your wigs slipping. Y'all continue to who you think you are? 595 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: You in there flirting with her. I don't know why 596 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: you thank you disrespect and then y'all end up taking 597 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: each other side and we y'all drunk. So the drunk 598 00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: nigga gonna try to bust the poolball y'all. Man, I 599 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: don't know why you on her side. Man, she fucked man, 600 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: I will fucking you. Man, she fucked me behind your back. 601 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: I don't know what did And then now this turns it. 602 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: Now somebody to get shot five times? Here's the interesting thing. 603 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: But here's something I have an issue with, resolve. And 604 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: when I try to compute what I'm looking at. If 605 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: the camera caught the audio of the five shots, why 606 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: didn't he kiss dance bitch dance? And I'm not on 607 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: either side. I'm looking in the middle of it. Right, 608 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: here's the audio. We got lucky. The audio's here. We 609 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 1: hear the boom boom boom, But why we don't hear 610 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: the dance bitch dance? Did he whisper that? But I 611 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 1: imagine it to be hard right either way? If you're Meg, 612 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: you come in here with your best friend you grew 613 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: up with. You don't got fame, all this shit that 614 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: you don't lost your people. Here go this dude. We've 615 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: been found and we trimmering. It's a reason why that 616 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: I'm telling you boy, lick around, boy to turn the palm, 617 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: especially for some people. Get you some liquor and then 618 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: a turn the party I try not to get drunk 619 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: around just anybody, because you know, I might get a 620 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: little I might be different in regards to what I'm 621 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: willing to embrace far as you know, I might be 622 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: a little more sociable. You know, it's a social lubricant, 623 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: liquor is and that was her brand for a minute, 624 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: you know, wrapped around that. But this trial was crazy. Man, 625 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: Let's listen to what else was happening. It almost feels 626 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: like meg was was was telling herself, She's not gonna 627 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: do this to me like this my home girl. I 628 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: know Wayne spoke and way ain't these niggas ain't win. 629 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: She ain't gonna get up here and do this to 630 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: me like she ain't gonna get up here and go 631 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: or get because Meg ain't really if you're paying attention 632 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: when they asking us shit about Kelsey, and this is 633 00:33:55,120 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: why it's crazy that they didn't call Kelsey first. This 634 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: is what I mean about planning it. Just because you 635 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 1: got all the right cars don't mean none. Even in space, 636 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: you can have all the right cars. But boy, if 637 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 1: I play this jack and get you, you can have 638 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 1: all the right cars. But strategy is way more important. 639 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: I might have Lord numbers. It's about when I played though, 640 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: if I bait you out there and then get you 641 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: to the end and this ten walk and this jack 642 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: do something and this seven do a little something, then 643 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: that means y'all and strategizing playing your cars right right, 644 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: same way with this. When you got somebody who I'm 645 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: granting immunity to that possibly can be a suspect, they 646 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: need to go first. As soon as we get in, 647 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: we call such and such to the stand. Let's get 648 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: you out the way, because if you don't do right now, 649 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: I can now Meg can kind of we can kind 650 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: of shape the way we get into you. Because Meg 651 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 1: speaking to her friend, this seeming like she's saying, and 652 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: I'm hurt and this money. We did everything together. We 653 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 1: had some run in but you know we pee we 654 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: player Houston, dat at U right, Yell ain't feeling like that, 655 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: And it's like she was banking on that. In regards 656 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 1: to her approach to what happened at night, she never 657 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: said they fault. She never said really nothing about home Girl. 658 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 1: Her testimony was strong, it was powerful. It was a 659 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 1: victim telling you that a man shot her. All right. 660 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 1: So from here, I think there's two important issues with 661 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: this case. One, what are the other witnesses going to say, 662 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 1: what's the driver gonna say, what's Kelsey gonna say? And 663 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: what is the name? There was a homeowner who lived there, 664 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: who was in the house that is very close, very 665 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: adjacent to where all of this is unfolding. He would 666 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 1: have seen and hurt a lot. He's going to testify. 667 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: The other thing. The defense did a really good job 668 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: of establishing that Hey, negs timeline here of in a 669 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,280 Speaker 1: few seconds, Tory, he gets out of the rear passenger, 670 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 1: gets onto the passengers side of the vehicle, Yellow's dance, 671 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: Pitch pulls a gun. Let's five shots. That there could 672 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,320 Speaker 1: have been a lot more that happened there in that sequence, 673 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: because that's a lot of things happening in a very 674 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 1: small amount of time, and it is not clear from 675 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: Meg's testimony that a jury would go ahead and say, oh, yeah, 676 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: batman pulled a gun and he was shooting out. I 677 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: could see the jury looking at that testimony, looking at 678 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 1: that sequence of events, saying that doesn't add up, and 679 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,760 Speaker 1: that means reasonable doubt. We're looking at it and saying, well, okay, 680 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: maybe something happened here, but did this guy intentionally pull 681 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: a gun and shoot at this woman. No, maybe there 682 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: was another shooter. Maybe there's another explanation of how those 683 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: gun shots rang out. Day two of the trials. There's 684 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: update from lawyer's from works from her testimony. Oh my god, 685 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,240 Speaker 1: when we walked out of that courtroom just now, every 686 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 1: single person was shot. Every single person was frozen. A 687 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 1: lot of people were looking at me, like, bro, tell 688 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,720 Speaker 1: me what is going on. Kelsey took the stand. Before 689 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,840 Speaker 1: she even started talking, there were fireworks. This started with 690 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: Kelsey coming in and saying she isn't voking her Fifth 691 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 1: Amendment right to remain silent and not testify. When someone 692 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: invokes the Fifth Amendment, they have to be invoking it 693 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: because if they were to testify, they would be giving 694 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 1: testimony that incriminates themselves. She said, I will not testify 695 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 1: because I would be giving testimony that I'm a critifying myself. 696 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: That's what it means. When she invoked the Fifth Amendment. Now, 697 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:22,800 Speaker 1: now this is important. Now, the government offered her immunity. 698 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: They said that we will not prosecute you and use 699 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 1: this testimony against you, so please testify. Her lawyer came 700 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 1: back and said, well, that's not good enough. I don't 701 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 1: want you to just not use her testimony against her. 702 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,239 Speaker 1: I want you to confirm to me that you will 703 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,800 Speaker 1: not prosecute her for any crimes arising out of this instance. 704 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: Out of this situation, the prosecutors said, yes, on the record, 705 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 1: we will not be charging Kelsey for anything that came 706 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 1: out of this incident. And then she testified, I'm gonna 707 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 1: go over the whole They let her black mail dim 708 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 1: on the staying testimony. The next video bit, here's the 709 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 1: piece that we just left off at lunch. The courtroom 710 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:03,800 Speaker 1: is just I can't even explain the tension. They asked 711 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 1: her at one point, did Tory ever say that I'll 712 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 1: shoot you? And she said, I'm invoking my Fifth Amendment, right, 713 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 1: which suggests they asked her, what's the context When did 714 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,720 Speaker 1: he say I'm gonna shoot you? She said, I invoked 715 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 1: the Fifth which suggests that the context was Kelsey was 716 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 1: doing something perhaps Meg was also doing something that would 717 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 1: incriminate her. That's the context. That's what I get from it. 718 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 1: That's my opinion. That's my read of it. For those 719 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 1: of you who have been telling me that I'm biased 720 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 1: and that there's only one angle to this story, and 721 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 1: that a man pulled a gun and shot five times 722 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 1: at another woman, and that the prosecutors haven't charged him 723 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 1: with attempted murder. But I'm biased. If you believe the 724 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 1: story that a man pulled a gun and shot five 725 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 1: times at another woman, he hasn't been charged with attempted murder. 726 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 1: And now you have another woman in the car saying 727 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,400 Speaker 1: I plead the fifth. I want you to know the 728 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 1: turn of events. Right there is crazy again. She's called 729 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: by Meg's people and she does not cooperate in a way. 730 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:03,720 Speaker 1: This stre their side. Number one, she gets own staying 731 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 1: everything falls in her lap in blackmailer right there on, stayman, 732 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 1: I ain't saying nothing unless I get immunity, no crime 733 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,240 Speaker 1: peer from the day going record. Yeah, you're good because 734 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:17,439 Speaker 1: everything is ratting on there. Now, let's see what she does. 735 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 1: She's already went against the grain and played the filth. 736 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 1: Let's see what she does. This is craziness, right, you 737 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 1: heard the bombshell from this morning. Let me cut you 738 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 1: up On the rest of Kelsey's testimony, They asked her, 739 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 1: how are you feeling? She said, I don't want to 740 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 1: be here. They asked her, what's triggering you? She said, 741 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 1: quote lies from Megan. She was asked what lies that 742 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 1: I betrayed her, that I am a bad friend, that 743 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 1: I took hush money. He was asked, how do you 744 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 1: feel about the allegation that you shot Megan? She said, 745 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 1: that's ridiculous. She was asked how did you meet Tory 746 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,399 Speaker 1: Lane's Me and Meg both met him at the same 747 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,959 Speaker 1: time at a Rock Nation brunch. She continued that after 748 00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 1: they met, Meg wanted to hook Tory up with Kelsey, 749 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 1: that that did happen, that Kelsey and Tory were engaged 750 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,359 Speaker 1: in an intimate relationship that Kelsey got covid went back 751 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 1: to Texas, and during the time she was back in 752 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 1: Texas having left La, Tory and Meg started getting it off. 753 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 1: They talked about the night of the incident they got 754 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 1: to college. This is also a cautionary tale to women 755 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 1: and people that like women be talking about let men 756 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 1: be going out said about pussy pe and they keep 757 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 1: it playing not catching no feelings in a This is 758 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 1: an extreme case of catching feelings right here. Man, These 759 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 1: women don't call feelings against each other to the point 760 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 1: where they all they all the way up at the 761 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:48,399 Speaker 1: highest level of court, people that knew each other all 762 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 1: their life about a dude that ain't even from the 763 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 1: same country. I need the women to really look at 764 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:58,879 Speaker 1: that and not that it started with Tory, because if 765 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 1: we go off was b and said, this is behavior, 766 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 1: according to Kelsey, that she's experienced with her friend for 767 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 1: a long time. But I just want people to understand 768 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 1: that men and women fall a week for the emotions, 769 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 1: not just me, and I think that men get kind 770 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 1: of exposed more for like, man, you see what he 771 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 1: did all about that girl. Man, that dude tripping. But 772 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,719 Speaker 1: look at this. This two friends, my boy, this is 773 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 1: two friends that can't even squash it for whatever reason 774 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 1: unless it's some deep or darker thing happening. That's deep, man, 775 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,319 Speaker 1: And it gets crazier. We are on a fifteen minute break. 776 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,439 Speaker 1: I get back into the courtroom very quickly. I sat 777 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:44,359 Speaker 1: at twelve o'clock directly in Kelsey's line of vision. I 778 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:48,920 Speaker 1: watched her testify. I watched her deny that Tory threatened 779 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 1: to shoot her. I watched her confess that she lied 780 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 1: to the police when she said that the reason why 781 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 1: she was lying to the police the investigators is because 782 00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: she wanted to protect her her self. Oh m ge 783 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,359 Speaker 1: The rest of the testimony, so what they possibly can 784 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 1: indicate is that she could be the shooter. Again, calls 785 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 1: in more confusion for the Jerry to have to comb 786 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 1: through theory. Turning to the rest of her testimony in 787 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:21,239 Speaker 1: the afternoons, Kelsey did confirm that Meg was She used 788 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,880 Speaker 1: the word irritated. She was in her feelings over the 789 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 1: fact that Tory was flirting with Kylie Jenner. Kelsey also 790 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 1: confirmed that EJ was there. They could have left with EJ. 791 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 1: They did not have to leave with Tori's drivers. She 792 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 1: confirmed that they did leave once. Meg said I don't 793 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 1: remember leaving once and coming back. Kelsey said, yeah, that happened. 794 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 1: We left once. Meg was mad in the car that 795 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 1: we had left Tory with Kylie and then we went 796 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 1: back because Meg said, oh, I need my slipper. We 797 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 1: don't know if there was really a missing slipper. You 798 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,239 Speaker 1: can put that together yourself. She also confirmed that Meg 799 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,759 Speaker 1: did get out and sit at a bus stop in 800 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 1: her Bikinian. She's just sitting there and it was Tory 801 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 1: who went out there and coaxed her to come back in. 802 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,880 Speaker 1: Meg denied that she said, I don't recall that happening. Well, 803 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,920 Speaker 1: how do you not remember that, and yet you remember 804 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,799 Speaker 1: exactly who shot you. Okay, there was more. There was 805 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 1: the confirmation that, yeah, we did get into an argument 806 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 1: over men that yeah, Tory. So as you see, there's 807 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:19,880 Speaker 1: just a lot of uncertainty surrounding Meg and what she said, 808 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 1: don't the stand, and what she's a ledged off to 809 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 1: and what she's a ledgst outside the court room. What 810 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,839 Speaker 1: I currently said in regards to Kelsey and her testimony, 811 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,880 Speaker 1: I think that it seems like um. At first, it 812 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 1: was like okay, I get it, And the more they 813 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,440 Speaker 1: explain kind of how she goes left and right and left, 814 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,879 Speaker 1: it's like, all right, you pawing it on too much. 815 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,760 Speaker 1: Now they gonna switch their technique and start to paint 816 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 1: you as someone that's been paid to do this. These 817 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 1: people are paid to think on their feet. So what 818 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,759 Speaker 1: I think is gonna happen is is there now they're 819 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 1: gonna start to like to show that you just say 820 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 1: anything like we got you saying the skies blue and 821 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:09,919 Speaker 1: the skies one. Something that's simple, right, And so once 822 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,680 Speaker 1: we just shoot your credibility, then what we need to 823 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,920 Speaker 1: do is remove everything you said from out of their minds. 824 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 1: And that's a hard process and you only got a 825 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 1: couple of days to do it. But your technique has 826 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,120 Speaker 1: to be right. All of this is technique right. So 827 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:28,239 Speaker 1: I see them changing because she she melted that ship 828 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,840 Speaker 1: down and pulled it on that it like it was 829 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,239 Speaker 1: just a whole lot of like you know, it's like 830 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 1: she really was like you really got a disdain And 831 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 1: there was certain key things that I noticed that they 832 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,279 Speaker 1: were as cut and she would lean right into it 833 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 1: and not understanding what they're doing. So they would say, 834 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 1: are you upset with Meg? No, I'm not upset. I'm 835 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,000 Speaker 1: upset that she act like I was at it up, 836 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,759 Speaker 1: So you are upset. It's just you're not gonna you 837 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,800 Speaker 1: see what I'm saying. And so she wasn't even peeping 838 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 1: those little things. And this is to add to the 839 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,879 Speaker 1: narrative that hey, this is a herd girl that's mad 840 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,200 Speaker 1: at a best friend, and now they're bringing out that 841 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,799 Speaker 1: she's supposed to have some kind of backdoor relationship with 842 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,719 Speaker 1: fifteen o one. So she's trying to tak Meg like 843 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,759 Speaker 1: they're bringing all this shit up to try to twist it, 844 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 1: you know, whether it be the truth or not, that's 845 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 1: for the information that's out there. You digest that how 846 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 1: you want, But what I'm telling you is is that 847 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:27,400 Speaker 1: they're now gonna start to paint her as a certain 848 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,040 Speaker 1: kind of individual. Now she just blew the biggest case 849 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:34,239 Speaker 1: for LA in quite some time. In LA leaving the 850 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:42,320 Speaker 1: Kardashian's house, the lead witness gets up there and flips, 851 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,320 Speaker 1: I didn't say that. I don't know I was lying. 852 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:50,759 Speaker 1: That ain't what I mean. Plead to feel like they 853 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,799 Speaker 1: just blew a big bag on investigation, on all this shit, 854 00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,319 Speaker 1: all this court time, all this security they go need 855 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,399 Speaker 1: just to cover this, but they're gonna make a lot 856 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,239 Speaker 1: of money, not the courts, but the but the media 857 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,719 Speaker 1: and all of that. So she puts herself in the 858 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 1: cross fire doing that. You know. I hope she understands that. 859 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,880 Speaker 1: And let me start off by pointing out the passive 860 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 1: aggressive behavior in the industry that win in this little 861 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,279 Speaker 1: media bubble. This is why I can't nobody get pass it. 862 00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:27,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna zone pass it, you know, but a lot 863 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,920 Speaker 1: of these shows are not able to get outside the 864 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,840 Speaker 1: hip hop ram because it's too much niggashit going on. 865 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 1: So let me kind of get y'all a little bit 866 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 1: of what I'm speaking about. After I speak about this, 867 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:43,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna get into academics, young Minami and did it. 868 00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:47,319 Speaker 1: It's an uncomfortable conversation. And even this is uncomfortable, right, 869 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,239 Speaker 1: you know, academics pops up on my radar a lot 870 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,319 Speaker 1: because he's affecting people that I care for, and he's 871 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,359 Speaker 1: doing it in a way not only people I care for, bo, 872 00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 1: but the culture that I gotta care for. The only 873 00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,600 Speaker 1: thing that gets me is that when I think about 874 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,040 Speaker 1: some of the things he does, right, it tells me 875 00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:08,240 Speaker 1: that he's not really from my culture, in my culture, 876 00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 1: in black culture and where I'm from. You know what 877 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,720 Speaker 1: you get when you call a powerful man's woman's side, 878 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:20,279 Speaker 1: chick wife, hidden family, whatever you call when you get 879 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,560 Speaker 1: involved and start to bother that, you know what they 880 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:26,279 Speaker 1: get you. That's a high level problem, you know what 881 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,239 Speaker 1: I mean. And that's just if you're doing that in 882 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,640 Speaker 1: the neighborhood and now here you are with millions of 883 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 1: people and leading the charge on kind of exposing or 884 00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:41,920 Speaker 1: belittleing or bangering whatever personal relationships people have. Even that, 885 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 1: and then on top of that, you're saying you're gonna 886 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 1: choke rappers and call the d a like Bro's. It's 887 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,760 Speaker 1: very dangerous. There's no way a motherfucking thing I'm hating 888 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:57,719 Speaker 1: on djackademics. Djackademics can't have the same outfit on as me, 889 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,640 Speaker 1: and he ain't me. That nigga's nothing like me. I 890 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 1: tell people all the time, you can see a dog 891 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,560 Speaker 1: in the water all day long, every motherfucker never be 892 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:10,879 Speaker 1: a crocodile. That nigga ain't nothing like me. Man, So 893 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,080 Speaker 1: I could. I can't hate on a nigga like academics. 894 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:20,160 Speaker 1: Loon can't hate on academics. Man. Man, it is impossible. 895 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,879 Speaker 1: The things he is, the things he won't I didn't, 896 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,360 Speaker 1: had gave away and won't entertain no more. You know 897 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,560 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, We ain't even the same kind of individual. 898 00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,760 Speaker 1: What I'm doing is because of his place in the culture, 899 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 1: I have to identify when he's doing something that's dangerous. 900 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:41,319 Speaker 1: Now skip Academics because he's a part of the conversations 901 00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,880 Speaker 1: that we're about to have for these next couple of 902 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 1: segments of the podcast before we get into Gunner, but 903 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,799 Speaker 1: we're gonna tie in the young Miami topic him going 904 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,320 Speaker 1: that Adam twenty two again, Like I spoke about a 905 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,840 Speaker 1: man of you and him and Joe Budden on the 906 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:03,440 Speaker 1: Joe Budden podcasts sitting there discussing what they believed to 907 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:07,080 Speaker 1: be the market value. And some of these numbers are 908 00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,960 Speaker 1: astonishing to me. Let's take a look, so to put 909 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,960 Speaker 1: some framework around where we're gonna start, DJ Academics went 910 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,080 Speaker 1: over to Joe Budden's podcast and they started to speak 911 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 1: on the podcast market place, and they did it in 912 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:25,800 Speaker 1: a way that was condescending, passive aggressive, to say the least. 913 00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,600 Speaker 1: They mentioned Willow and Gilly. They never mentioned Loon. They 914 00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,759 Speaker 1: Joe Booden, it's okay to mention Loon. We know you know, Loan. 915 00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,719 Speaker 1: It's all right, brother, I'm not gonna steal your night 916 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 1: where you bro. It's okay to mention other podcasters, Bro, 917 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:45,640 Speaker 1: Joe Booten, it's all right. But they talked about Willow, 918 00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,160 Speaker 1: they talked about Gilly, they talked about Lad, they talked 919 00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,399 Speaker 1: about Adam, they talked about at, they talked about what's 920 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:57,040 Speaker 1: being made in this space. I know people are not 921 00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:02,040 Speaker 1: counting right on what Joe is making. I spoke about 922 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,360 Speaker 1: it with my episode with Maul, so that's coming soon. 923 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,640 Speaker 1: So just be on the lookout. But people don't know 924 00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:14,000 Speaker 1: for Loan knows I did a forensic investigation on the 925 00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:19,879 Speaker 1: market's stupid. I poured my street money into this ship 926 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:23,279 Speaker 1: and knew I couldn't go back to the streets no 927 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,719 Speaker 1: matter if I get down to zero dollars. Bro Listen, 928 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 1: I need y'all to understand the gravity, attach to what 929 00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,120 Speaker 1: I'm saying or what I had to do. Didn't get 930 00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:37,480 Speaker 1: why I'm at. I took my street money, my street money, 931 00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,400 Speaker 1: shut the traps down, win into this for two or 932 00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:45,760 Speaker 1: three years. Still lifestyle, still the same, if nothing changed, 933 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,120 Speaker 1: nothing in my life changed. Chase this right here down 934 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:53,920 Speaker 1: to what NASA seven figure situation right blew my face up. 935 00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,279 Speaker 1: So I had to make a conscious decision, Loan, you 936 00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,319 Speaker 1: can't go back whatever happened with this now, you can't 937 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,080 Speaker 1: go back to the street, because then if you go 938 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:05,759 Speaker 1: back to the streets, you're going to the fizz. No 939 00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,520 Speaker 1: matter how much money you lose on this ship. If 940 00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:12,440 Speaker 1: it don't work, you gotta figure something else out, you understand. 941 00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,799 Speaker 1: As they spoke about podcasting, you'll notice academics held Joe 942 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,839 Speaker 1: Budden lower on the list, and he held Charlemagne at 943 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:25,560 Speaker 1: the top. Charlemagne is a main stream paid superstar so 944 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,960 Speaker 1: a lot of people are mainstream like Charlemagne like or 945 00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:32,880 Speaker 1: maybe that when you talk about Clout, you'll think of 946 00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:36,560 Speaker 1: their names next to him. But he's being paid like 947 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:40,600 Speaker 1: a star. See if some of y'all looking at the 948 00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:44,759 Speaker 1: stats and some of y'all looking at the contract, that 949 00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,879 Speaker 1: when I'm telling y'all about loon, y'all too business looking 950 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,880 Speaker 1: at the stats. YouTube is my fourthful fifth leg of 951 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:56,080 Speaker 1: my business. My social media is tooking in account before 952 00:51:56,120 --> 00:52:00,920 Speaker 1: my YouTube. My stats on YouTube mean less than nothing 953 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:05,600 Speaker 1: to me, but that's because I'm running plays and y'all 954 00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,360 Speaker 1: playing ball. So they'll go to looking at the stats 955 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,560 Speaker 1: and say with them, I'm scoring thirty ji like Joe. 956 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,120 Speaker 1: I gotta I hear some of these stupid little niggas 957 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,200 Speaker 1: run around. I got a billion views and ain't got 958 00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,000 Speaker 1: no deal nowhere, ain't even got to present a sponsor. 959 00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:21,680 Speaker 1: Who you talking to with that kind of toe? I 960 00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:25,400 Speaker 1: don't I don't listen, loon, don't respect cloud chasing. I 961 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,600 Speaker 1: ain't done no cloud chasing to get why I'm man 962 00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,600 Speaker 1: what I speak on. I just speak on because that's 963 00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,200 Speaker 1: how I'm feeling. And I can go cloud chasing on 964 00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:36,200 Speaker 1: you niggas, I got enough information and enough wit to man, 965 00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,440 Speaker 1: I can yo everything about my style livery I can. 966 00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,319 Speaker 1: I can easily go cloud. I'm not doing that. I'm 967 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,719 Speaker 1: coming with game and information and pick up when I'm 968 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,480 Speaker 1: putting down. And that's been working for me. The game 969 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,080 Speaker 1: been good to me. Let's listen to a little bit 970 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:56,040 Speaker 1: of this and we'll go from there. Adam say making Okay, 971 00:52:56,120 --> 00:53:00,360 Speaker 1: here we go. It's I can't say anything because the 972 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,520 Speaker 1: second I do, you may get too many trip No, 973 00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:05,920 Speaker 1: I'm just saying there will be thirty think pieces on 974 00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,440 Speaker 1: why I hate Adam. Well, why I'm hating on Adam 975 00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,480 Speaker 1: not I'm gonna lie. Adam didn't come in here and 976 00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:15,440 Speaker 1: dissect y'all though, handle these niggas. Nay you nigga the 977 00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,160 Speaker 1: whole fighting shit that they did. Yeah, I'm gonna lie. 978 00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,360 Speaker 1: He says it to me too, so act just starts 979 00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:25,080 Speaker 1: leak it. That what the oka pay attention how they 980 00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,000 Speaker 1: speak about him. Listen, it's important to understand. This is 981 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,480 Speaker 1: what's called passive aggressive. He dropped that shit on the topline. 982 00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,719 Speaker 1: I was in disbelief. Man, I'm like, yo, shit, they 983 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,400 Speaker 1: gave me all the like like I'm on some ghetto 984 00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,960 Speaker 1: fucker shit. I'm like, this thing got whole fights going on. 985 00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:41,960 Speaker 1: That might be the way. And let me tell you something, 986 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,120 Speaker 1: if I go get married that I'm saying like, hey, 987 00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,080 Speaker 1: let me shut up. Well it's not it's not the way, 988 00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:51,240 Speaker 1: but it's like, it's clearly not the wave. But that's 989 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,640 Speaker 1: that's type of content, you know what I mean. It's 990 00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:56,040 Speaker 1: coming out. You know what I mean. I won't say 991 00:53:56,040 --> 00:54:00,400 Speaker 1: it's the way, but you know I would. In the 992 00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,080 Speaker 1: car only fans tomorrow, let them know that Joe Budden's 993 00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,080 Speaker 1: getting married next week and they're gonna go all across 994 00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,279 Speaker 1: the country to find willing women that want to just 995 00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,799 Speaker 1: sleep with him and his wife. How much you think 996 00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,719 Speaker 1: i'll make him up? I'm out of here. I'm out 997 00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,400 Speaker 1: of here. Let's see what I mean. Well, no, if 998 00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,200 Speaker 1: you didn't pay attention right there, what Joe is saying is, oh, 999 00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,560 Speaker 1: Adam ain't really doing now, he's selling this dick. If 1000 00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:24,600 Speaker 1: I could do I could easily do that. You know, 1001 00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,759 Speaker 1: Joe Booten is saying that I can easily do that. 1002 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:32,040 Speaker 1: That's nothing right, Adam's selling this dick if I just 1003 00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:36,200 Speaker 1: make a faun so again, diminishing whatever value he's bringing 1004 00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,160 Speaker 1: and I don't. I don't, I ain't never doing that. 1005 00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,560 Speaker 1: But I'm just identifying what's happening. This is all in 1006 00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:45,680 Speaker 1: this little weird hip hop space, right, I'm telling you, bro, 1007 00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,640 Speaker 1: there's something weird happening. Who gives up me and my 1008 00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,400 Speaker 1: people for to show y'all what to do? Go around 1009 00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,880 Speaker 1: you niggas and all that. But I'm just saying, I 1010 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,800 Speaker 1: want to identify for the up and coming content creator, 1011 00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,680 Speaker 1: what's happening. You're gonna even hit him, start to even 1012 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:03,080 Speaker 1: what I would call do some sort of passive aggressive 1013 00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,920 Speaker 1: compliments to Wallow and Gilly. And this is why I 1014 00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,600 Speaker 1: want to have conversations with these guys because it's time. 1015 00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,680 Speaker 1: It's time to stop all that, Like, it's time to 1016 00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,400 Speaker 1: just have a conversation. Let's just have a conversation. What 1017 00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:19,600 Speaker 1: we're doing. Oh, I can't say nothing. He's gonna look like, hey, right, 1018 00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,800 Speaker 1: And if you paid attention right there, he would He 1019 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:25,479 Speaker 1: was going into that and stopped itself and then came 1020 00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:27,840 Speaker 1: back with it. That's how you know. These are like 1021 00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:32,600 Speaker 1: setups and these are like techniques that these dudes are doing, right, 1022 00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,440 Speaker 1: and that's cool. I ain't tribbing, I ain't mad I'm 1023 00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:40,439 Speaker 1: letting y'all know what we're looking at. So academic says 1024 00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:43,279 Speaker 1: that Yo Adam has a fight. For those of you 1025 00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,120 Speaker 1: who don't know, I covered it the other day where 1026 00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,000 Speaker 1: there was a fight on No Jumper. This fight included 1027 00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:52,160 Speaker 1: some guy who came up there at once, got embarrassed 1028 00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,960 Speaker 1: and was invited back. This time a fight broke out 1029 00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,400 Speaker 1: because he came back kind of to defend what happened 1030 00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,719 Speaker 1: the first time. Joe came out and said, sue all motherfuckers. 1031 00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,920 Speaker 1: I'll sue them, motherfucker. You know what I'm saying. And 1032 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,120 Speaker 1: so that's what Ki is speaking about. I mean, not 1033 00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,239 Speaker 1: like you had that already. I'm just saying, see what 1034 00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:11,919 Speaker 1: I mean, like two million. That's the other thing about 1035 00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:13,839 Speaker 1: your name. Y'all just get back. I'm making one hundred 1036 00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:21,200 Speaker 1: million more clipping. I'm telling clipping many clip I'm making 1037 00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:24,279 Speaker 1: a hundred million to catch up now, man, because I'll 1038 00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:29,120 Speaker 1: be trying to. I try to. I try to compete, 1039 00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:30,920 Speaker 1: like y'all feel like we're in the same leagues. So 1040 00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:32,920 Speaker 1: I'm trying to make sure I'm no. I'm trying to 1041 00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,520 Speaker 1: see the pecking order of facts. You know, Come on 1042 00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:39,560 Speaker 1: out of course, where you all right today? Where you 1043 00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:41,600 Speaker 1: got the pecking order? All right? So where you got 1044 00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:45,439 Speaker 1: your pecking order? Now? After years of pocket watching? Pecking order? 1045 00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:50,080 Speaker 1: A cool as far as money, it's tax season two, 1046 00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:53,080 Speaker 1: it's tax season. Tell the truth. I'm definitely at the bottom. 1047 00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:57,040 Speaker 1: Tell the truth. Yeah, look, no talk about meeting nigga 1048 00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:00,440 Speaker 1: bewe me. I think Sean makes the most funny okay 1049 00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:14,319 Speaker 1: at around? What the greatest is anxiety? For Charlomagne? All right, 1050 00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:18,200 Speaker 1: so again, shot said Charlemagne. So far, shot, said Adam. 1051 00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:24,000 Speaker 1: He's selling pawn, Shot said Charlemagne. He's he's exploiting anxiety. 1052 00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,200 Speaker 1: And I hit Charlemagne and told him, Yo, let's have 1053 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:29,160 Speaker 1: a conversation, bro it. Shots being took. Just think it's 1054 00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,120 Speaker 1: time for a real sit down with a real one. 1055 00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:35,600 Speaker 1: Just do you wake up with anxiety in the morning? Ya? 1056 00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:40,800 Speaker 1: Why y'all ain't cool yet? Man? Welly rapper brother yo ya, 1057 00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:45,400 Speaker 1: I've been letting niggas be anxious years. I like to 1058 00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,040 Speaker 1: identify the game, not only for the ones that currently 1059 00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,040 Speaker 1: sit in these seats, but for the ones that's coming 1060 00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:53,080 Speaker 1: after us. We're looking for information. How do we get 1061 00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,240 Speaker 1: up there? What do we do? What do the youngsters 1062 00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,600 Speaker 1: do this trying to come this way. What do they do? 1063 00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:00,280 Speaker 1: They're making it harder to work with each other because 1064 00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,600 Speaker 1: all these niggas that needed each other at one time, 1065 00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:04,320 Speaker 1: now they ship on each other when they get in 1066 00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:09,640 Speaker 1: position to yearly wrap up was all transactional, and I 1067 00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:13,080 Speaker 1: will believe it was transactional. From Joe's side. Charlemagne didn't 1068 00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,439 Speaker 1: need it. He's been tapped in for a while. Joe 1069 00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:20,480 Speaker 1: was trying to get in that position, and he calculated 1070 00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,480 Speaker 1: his way into that position. He did pick the right people, 1071 00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:27,640 Speaker 1: pick the right circumstances, had the right conversations, and place 1072 00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:31,200 Speaker 1: itself amongst those names and become competition. He even went 1073 00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,440 Speaker 1: as far as to plant the seed out there. I 1074 00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:35,480 Speaker 1: had I was doing this before them, or about the 1075 00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:38,480 Speaker 1: same time. I just stopped right because they said he 1076 00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:40,560 Speaker 1: was doing something in high ninety seven. But again, this 1077 00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:42,600 Speaker 1: is what you have to understand. How we built the 1078 00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:47,680 Speaker 1: equity in the fan base. Charlemagne was instrumental in him 1079 00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,840 Speaker 1: being in that position. Go to its first couple of pullups, 1080 00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,360 Speaker 1: and we had me and Mall had a very long 1081 00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,840 Speaker 1: conversation about this. But go to his first couple of pullups. 1082 00:58:56,840 --> 00:59:00,400 Speaker 1: You see Charlemagne. Charlemagne was already a state when media, 1083 00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,520 Speaker 1: because Joe would go on to Breakfast Club when he 1084 00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,080 Speaker 1: had an album coming out of the Promoters podcast, or 1085 00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:09,080 Speaker 1: to promote certain things. So Charlemagne was already a fixture 1086 00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:12,720 Speaker 1: in the business, in the market, and so when Joe 1087 00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:17,680 Speaker 1: needed him, there's a reason he picked him for the year. 1088 00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,600 Speaker 1: Endley wrap up. I'm sure you're gonna say now that 1089 00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:22,720 Speaker 1: there's a list of people on there, and of course 1090 00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,800 Speaker 1: it probably was, but there's a reason Charlemagne was hound 1091 00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:30,320 Speaker 1: that list. Charlemagne never made a list that Joe budden 1092 00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:34,560 Speaker 1: name was on it. Think about that, he had shows 1093 00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:39,000 Speaker 1: all across the MTV commentists. He's never made a list 1094 00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:41,480 Speaker 1: and said Joe Button, I need Joe to come. But 1095 00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:44,880 Speaker 1: there's several lists that Joe Budden has made in which 1096 00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:48,200 Speaker 1: Charlemagne's name has been one of the phone numbers that 1097 00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:52,520 Speaker 1: will reach tutor to try to make this thing look right. 1098 00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:58,080 Speaker 1: And I'm again literally just dealing with information and for 1099 00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,160 Speaker 1: Nigga don't like that. He just got to deal with 1100 01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:03,560 Speaker 1: his self, right, But think about that and then think 1101 01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,240 Speaker 1: about fast forward to where we are now. Of course, 1102 01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:08,480 Speaker 1: a lot has happened That's why I want to have conversations. 1103 01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:12,040 Speaker 1: What has happened? Is this fixable? If it's not, what 1104 01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:15,840 Speaker 1: information can we grab from it? I love when niggas 1105 01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:26,600 Speaker 1: it makes all right. So in a weird way, let 1106 01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,479 Speaker 1: me just say this before we even get into this part, 1107 01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,840 Speaker 1: because this just clicked in my head and I it's 1108 01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:36,720 Speaker 1: just like Loan from the Streets. So I pay attention 1109 01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,120 Speaker 1: to context. Right, And you just heard Joe say, Yo, 1110 01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:42,040 Speaker 1: I love when dude's pocket watch. It makes for great content. 1111 01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:47,080 Speaker 1: I don't think he believes that to be true because 1112 01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:50,040 Speaker 1: he don't have a podcast where he talks about those things. 1113 01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:53,600 Speaker 1: This is what I'm saying about, the contradiction in the conversation. 1114 01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:55,880 Speaker 1: On one end, it's man, every time you come here, 1115 01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:57,480 Speaker 1: it's a lot of people I talk about that I 1116 01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:59,360 Speaker 1: don't talk about, and then they on other the end, 1117 01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:03,880 Speaker 1: it's man, I love pocket watching. It makes for great content. Well, 1118 01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,800 Speaker 1: you have a podcast where you record twice a week 1119 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:10,520 Speaker 1: publicly at five times a week on Patreon, you probably 1120 01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:12,880 Speaker 1: can find some time in the pocket watching, which you don't. 1121 01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:16,800 Speaker 1: So I would believe that that is a illegitimate statement. 1122 01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,320 Speaker 1: What I think is is Joe in a weird way. 1123 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:24,400 Speaker 1: It's still looking for that validation from acc He's still 1124 01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:26,680 Speaker 1: trying to like, I just want to make sure you 1125 01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,280 Speaker 1: got me up there somewhere. He's looking for some kind 1126 01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:31,640 Speaker 1: of reassurance because that's the only reason he can be 1127 01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:35,040 Speaker 1: having this conversation. What else, What else is he's having 1128 01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:39,320 Speaker 1: this conversation for. It ain't the passing on information on 1129 01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:42,280 Speaker 1: because Joe has been loud about I'm not passing information 1130 01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:45,320 Speaker 1: on no more. It's over. So it ain't that clear 1131 01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:48,160 Speaker 1: that off the playbook. That ain't why I think he 1132 01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:53,560 Speaker 1: searches for some weird validation in academics. He wants academics 1133 01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,440 Speaker 1: to continue to put him as the big homie, as 1134 01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:58,280 Speaker 1: you see him do with Adam and you Man, I 1135 01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:00,720 Speaker 1: tried to hire you, Adam, your back on it now, 1136 01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:02,920 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have worked for you. It's like Adam is 1137 01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:06,880 Speaker 1: feeling it. Adam, It's like something's happening with the way 1138 01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:09,800 Speaker 1: he wants to be viewed from act because or at 1139 01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:12,240 Speaker 1: least that's the conversation I would have with Joe Budden, 1140 01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:15,320 Speaker 1: because why else would you be having this kind of conversation. 1141 01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,720 Speaker 1: Somebody let me know, But I feel like I just like, no, no, no, 1142 01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:23,000 Speaker 1: I'm just saying I think I think he should be 1143 01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:26,840 Speaker 1: in the range of fifteen twenty fifteen. I'm sixteen. Okay, 1144 01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:32,440 Speaker 1: second second, I ain't on this list me neither. Don't 1145 01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:37,439 Speaker 1: put me on. Definitely, please open me. I want nothing 1146 01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:39,480 Speaker 1: to do with most of my party watching for us 1147 01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:41,400 Speaker 1: coming from you A fit game. I'm like, oh shit, Joe, 1148 01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:43,520 Speaker 1: Joe getting answer. Yeah yeah, I didn't even seen the 1149 01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:45,960 Speaker 1: webs yet. I haven't seen the money back in person, broke. 1150 01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:50,520 Speaker 1: Please keep me off your list now, who's second? Second? 1151 01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:55,840 Speaker 1: Come on? Unfortunately, I think that's probably the only person 1152 01:02:55,960 --> 01:03:02,280 Speaker 1: in in radio media. Okay, um, like like radio. Look 1153 01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:10,480 Speaker 1: to number two. If I got him in fifteen, it 1154 01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:17,160 Speaker 1: really should be twenty. Another smoke twenty. So he's saying 1155 01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:20,360 Speaker 1: he has sear Lemagne at twenty million dollars a year. 1156 01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:26,520 Speaker 1: Joe Buden clearly is uncomfortable with not being one or two. 1157 01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:29,160 Speaker 1: He's trying to sneak and see Kenny be number two. 1158 01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,200 Speaker 1: This is, in my opinion, I want a lot of you. 1159 01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:35,800 Speaker 1: I got dj Vladder there, man, I got DJ Ladder 1160 01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:41,920 Speaker 1: number two, all right, I got ladder around like ten. Okay, 1161 01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:45,000 Speaker 1: it's ten a year. Big jump from one to two, 1162 01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:50,400 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit more, but okay, million and two, 1163 01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:59,800 Speaker 1: olym of us, buddy, this lizard is getting bad shit. 1164 01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:03,240 Speaker 1: He loves this. Let's see after that is the greatest. 1165 01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:07,880 Speaker 1: This is awesome. Yeah, without the port of money, I got. 1166 01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,200 Speaker 1: I got Adam at three. Without the port of money. 1167 01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:11,440 Speaker 1: We gotta take the point money out of here. So 1168 01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:14,240 Speaker 1: just off the platform without the point of money. Adams 1169 01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:16,360 Speaker 1: at three, Yeah, all right, give me four and I 1170 01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:18,120 Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie a thing after that. I don't know 1171 01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:20,560 Speaker 1: want nor yet, but Nor gotta be a Joe still 1172 01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,800 Speaker 1: hasn't popped up on this list, and he's uncomfortable with it. 1173 01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:26,240 Speaker 1: But he's a He has a good poker face. He 1174 01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:28,959 Speaker 1: thinks I should be on this list. And I'm gonna 1175 01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:31,200 Speaker 1: tell you something, Joe Booting is probably already on this 1176 01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:34,840 Speaker 1: list at this point, but act doesn't respect it. And 1177 01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:38,040 Speaker 1: this is what Joe continues to search for, is the 1178 01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:41,320 Speaker 1: respect from academics. That's why he's even having a conversation. 1179 01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:43,800 Speaker 1: Proved me wrong on that it's getting closer to him. 1180 01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:45,200 Speaker 1: But I don't know what's going on here. If you know, 1181 01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:48,800 Speaker 1: everybody just na I'm not saying that it would be 1182 01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:53,640 Speaker 1: wild if they're not getting what right at least over five. 1183 01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:57,640 Speaker 1: Let me just say, okay, your list, do what you 1184 01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:00,360 Speaker 1: want with your list. I'm gonna tell you what I 1185 01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:01,960 Speaker 1: feel like. You fall no no, no, no, no, no no, 1186 01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:08,760 Speaker 1: no number few. What's my number? Let's here, come on, 1187 01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:11,480 Speaker 1: give it to me. I told you leave me off 1188 01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:13,960 Speaker 1: to the little list. I think people went five million. Man. 1189 01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:15,400 Speaker 1: First of all, I'm not supposed to be in list 1190 01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:16,920 Speaker 1: because we worked together. We're supposed to have like a 1191 01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:22,440 Speaker 1: sacred bond. But apparently I've learned from my co passco workers. 1192 01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:26,240 Speaker 1: I've had nothing. I've had to pocket watch you even 1193 01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,880 Speaker 1: harder because you know what I mean. You know, it 1194 01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:32,320 Speaker 1: was definitely controversial when people were seeing you like you 1195 01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:34,480 Speaker 1: just went independent after you know what I mean? You 1196 01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:37,920 Speaker 1: So he again, pay attention to this, because this is 1197 01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:41,240 Speaker 1: really important. He got Joe Button at three point five million, 1198 01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:46,920 Speaker 1: He got Joe Bowden at three point five million a 1199 01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:50,120 Speaker 1: year off podcasting, and he's wrong. This is what I'm 1200 01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:54,400 Speaker 1: saying about, dudes. Pocket watching number one, bro lone warrant 1201 01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:58,160 Speaker 1: seven figures me by myself, just me right, And it's 1202 01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:01,280 Speaker 1: interesting to hear these numbers. You got Joe Booting at 1203 01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:05,680 Speaker 1: three point five million, paying two people recording with five 1204 01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:08,400 Speaker 1: things dropping a week. He's clearly don't know the market 1205 01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:12,080 Speaker 1: like people think he knows the market. Dude has paying customers. 1206 01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:14,400 Speaker 1: He one of the only people that has paying customers 1207 01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:19,120 Speaker 1: on a monthly basis, and here academics is calling for 1208 01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:21,280 Speaker 1: three point five million. The money he thought he might 1209 01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:23,800 Speaker 1: think YouTube the on the way people getting money, But 1210 01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,840 Speaker 1: we getting money off the audio and everything. Overhill boy, 1211 01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:30,440 Speaker 1: we getting money off all kind of shit. Overhill Boy, 1212 01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:34,320 Speaker 1: I'm warranted five figures for ad meet by myself five 1213 01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:37,800 Speaker 1: figures for an ad. So pay attention to these dudes 1214 01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:40,080 Speaker 1: that don't either don't know what they're talking about or 1215 01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:43,240 Speaker 1: deliberately hiding the information. They may not even be hustling good. 1216 01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:48,280 Speaker 1: These dudes may be in position doing nothing you understand, 1217 01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:51,160 Speaker 1: like a nigga on the court, just out there, nigga 1218 01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:54,720 Speaker 1: do something on the team when you got show tap. 1219 01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:59,800 Speaker 1: That's kind of inter So you don't really pocket watch 1220 01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:05,760 Speaker 1: because because again, pay attention, this is only to know 1221 01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:09,480 Speaker 1: what academics has him. This ain't even about hip hop 1222 01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:13,480 Speaker 1: shouting in hip hop. This is Joe Booton trying to 1223 01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:17,160 Speaker 1: see if academics still got him above these people? You 1224 01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:19,600 Speaker 1: still like you did at first, Remember when you was 1225 01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:22,880 Speaker 1: infatuated with me, You still got me up there. This 1226 01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,080 Speaker 1: is what it is. This is how long receiving this? 1227 01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:28,960 Speaker 1: Somebody else helped me understand. And I'm gonna call is 1228 01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:31,840 Speaker 1: because I want like this is what I received? This 1229 01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:34,440 Speaker 1: as this, It's like you still got me up there? Bro? 1230 01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:37,760 Speaker 1: What what show said? What you got? Shows? What you 1231 01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:44,240 Speaker 1: got Charlomagne? What about Wallow? What about Gilly? What about Vlad? 1232 01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:50,400 Speaker 1: It's okay to say lu name Joe Booten, It's okay, okay, 1233 01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:53,960 Speaker 1: watch like you don't really think dedicate yourself to the 1234 01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:56,360 Speaker 1: pocket watching? Well, I think shot is a definitely like 1235 01:07:56,400 --> 01:08:00,640 Speaker 1: around five h all right, if I said or three 1236 01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:07,960 Speaker 1: three five three, I'm at the bottom. Now he got 1237 01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:13,040 Speaker 1: someone three point five and everybody else is leaping downs 1238 01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:15,680 Speaker 1: above me. No, no, no, they all beating me by 1239 01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:18,000 Speaker 1: like a million and up. Well, we're talking about like 1240 01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:21,639 Speaker 1: the top obviously below that. We have a few moments. 1241 01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:24,879 Speaker 1: I will take it. I will gladly take the bottom 1242 01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:31,320 Speaker 1: of the top one percent. Okay, and you I ain't 1243 01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:34,479 Speaker 1: gonna oh no, I ain't talking about me like you. 1244 01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:38,040 Speaker 1: So who else could you be talking about. It's the 1245 01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:40,840 Speaker 1: same thing when you when you see academics, right, Because 1246 01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:43,320 Speaker 1: I watched some of the ship because he'd be mentioning 1247 01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:45,639 Speaker 1: people that I got love for, right, so I gotta 1248 01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:47,479 Speaker 1: make sure I know what I'm talking about. Some of 1249 01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:50,280 Speaker 1: that shit I watched. He will do this old weird 1250 01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:54,160 Speaker 1: shit that he got from Takashi. He even sound like 1251 01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:56,840 Speaker 1: Takashi now, like he just a clone. He just is 1252 01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:59,200 Speaker 1: a like a I don't know, but he'll do this 1253 01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:03,000 Speaker 1: right here. I'm what's their name? Um, what's their name? 1254 01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:05,360 Speaker 1: Y'all tell me their name? Y'all tell me their name? Um, 1255 01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:08,519 Speaker 1: what's they name? I mean, it'd be some of the 1256 01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:12,400 Speaker 1: weirdest behaviors, Like is that a man? Is that? Is 1257 01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:15,720 Speaker 1: that a man doing that right there home? Faking like 1258 01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:20,160 Speaker 1: he don't know somebody's name. This is a man doing that, y'all. Dudes, 1259 01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:23,160 Speaker 1: doesn't went crazy And I don't got nothing personally against 1260 01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:25,760 Speaker 1: a little buddy, but it's like, look at what we're 1261 01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:28,599 Speaker 1: dealing with. And then I'm having fun. This is fun 1262 01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:32,360 Speaker 1: to me, and you don't get your security, you know 1263 01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:38,960 Speaker 1: what I mean? For me, No, I'm swear to something. 1264 01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:42,960 Speaker 1: You are too hot for me. But everybody else. Yeah, 1265 01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:47,120 Speaker 1: you're going crazy. Okay, Now I think I'm right. I 1266 01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:50,880 Speaker 1: think I'm pretty right, Like I'm going on certain things. 1267 01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:53,000 Speaker 1: I know these niggas be broken. I don't care how 1268 01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:59,760 Speaker 1: many black on T shirts they wear. Y'all can keep 1269 01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:05,120 Speaker 1: dressing it up with hey, yeah, we'll show this guy up. 1270 01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:09,080 Speaker 1: Look at this anxiety. I don't care. I don't care 1271 01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,640 Speaker 1: how much they dress it up. Buddy, See you care 1272 01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:19,960 Speaker 1: is talking? They says hey, anything he says he. I 1273 01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:23,960 Speaker 1: don't think that's it. Show brouble broke. Now you put 1274 01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:25,840 Speaker 1: the words of my mouth I'm asking. I don't think 1275 01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:28,960 Speaker 1: that none of us are broke, thank God. Good see. 1276 01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:31,080 Speaker 1: And that's why I don't really look at none of y'all. 1277 01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:34,080 Speaker 1: I don't think none of us is broke. Thank God. 1278 01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:37,559 Speaker 1: After I say, man, these niggas broke. I don't care 1279 01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:41,799 Speaker 1: about how many anxiety church they will. High level games 1280 01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:44,240 Speaker 1: being played in media, and this is the only place 1281 01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:46,880 Speaker 1: we had a conversation. And I'm showing up everywhere. I 1282 01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:50,439 Speaker 1: know everybody. This ain't person who's business. Oh. I always 1283 01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:53,160 Speaker 1: look at me like I know where I was at 1284 01:10:53,200 --> 01:11:00,479 Speaker 1: In twenty twelve, thirteen, twenty eight teen, tent like I 1285 01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:04,200 Speaker 1: try to stay there to keep things within within the 1286 01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:06,040 Speaker 1: round where they should be number one and number two. 1287 01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:09,280 Speaker 1: Like I was just telling to listen, these are cold 1288 01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:12,200 Speaker 1: this is cold language, and I'm gonna stop stopping and 1289 01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:14,200 Speaker 1: so y'all can get a full grass of the conversation. 1290 01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:16,360 Speaker 1: But what he's trying to say is I look at 1291 01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:19,120 Speaker 1: me because I'm number one. I don't look at them. 1292 01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:23,720 Speaker 1: I lead the charge over here in my brain, just 1293 01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:27,400 Speaker 1: being clear on my interpretation of what's being said Mardy 1294 01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:31,160 Speaker 1: on the Reddit chat. I try to pocket watch the 1295 01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:34,160 Speaker 1: people that are where I want to be, not the 1296 01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:37,599 Speaker 1: people that are where I am. Right, Like we all 1297 01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:40,880 Speaker 1: I get done. We all in the same space in 1298 01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:45,200 Speaker 1: some form of the same ballpark. I'm trying to see 1299 01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:48,000 Speaker 1: how Steve Harvey built that, how Kevin Hart built that. 1300 01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:51,360 Speaker 1: How do you take your one million or your five million, 1301 01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:56,000 Speaker 1: ten million and turning into hundred. That's when these niggas 1302 01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:57,920 Speaker 1: really start getting to it. I've lad moving on the 1303 01:11:58,000 --> 01:11:59,479 Speaker 1: list of the moment he started talking back to all 1304 01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:01,720 Speaker 1: the guy them first, like he see he's sunning them. 1305 01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:03,920 Speaker 1: He letting him know, like you think, he say, shit, 1306 01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:08,719 Speaker 1: you need need me. Lad broke too, nigga just started 1307 01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:12,599 Speaker 1: wearing like sure, Nahla got someone. You just started cleaning 1308 01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:16,719 Speaker 1: up a little. Hey Vladimir, you're still a bum nigger. 1309 01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:20,160 Speaker 1: I don't give a vocal Hey was it's up with 1310 01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:23,640 Speaker 1: Joe And then we started with positivity, starting with Yo. 1311 01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:30,280 Speaker 1: Technically with Vla got the biggest up. He got, he 1312 01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:32,880 Speaker 1: got the biggest platform and hip hop right now. But 1313 01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:36,160 Speaker 1: if we're going strictly by day, the numbers that don't 1314 01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:37,960 Speaker 1: mean no more, that don't mean But let me ask 1315 01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:39,920 Speaker 1: you this, it's over that. Let me some niggas out 1316 01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:41,200 Speaker 1: there still trying to have the bigges plas. Let me 1317 01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:43,320 Speaker 1: let me ask you a question. If people wanted to 1318 01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:45,840 Speaker 1: do what he does, you don't think that those numbers 1319 01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:50,679 Speaker 1: could roll right into if somebody followed his lead. Let's 1320 01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:54,840 Speaker 1: say Joe hypothetically followed his lead. Don't say Joe even hypothetically. No, 1321 01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:57,000 Speaker 1: if Joe wanted to sit up here and interview all 1322 01:12:57,040 --> 01:13:00,400 Speaker 1: the rappers and do all of the selaious that ship, 1323 01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:03,639 Speaker 1: you don't think the numbers are go there. H Yeah, 1324 01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:08,559 Speaker 1: you don't think he'll get another hundred thousand Patriot subscribers. Yeah, 1325 01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:12,839 Speaker 1: if behind closed doors and behind a paywall, Joe interviewed. 1326 01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:16,240 Speaker 1: All these little young shoot him up bang bang rosco 1327 01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:18,120 Speaker 1: on them. You don't think his numbers will go through 1328 01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:21,200 Speaker 1: the roof. Yeah. But the other thing, I don't like 1329 01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:24,679 Speaker 1: a benchmark though, you get them to a benchmark, because 1330 01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:27,719 Speaker 1: people's history is unique to them, right, Like, so who's 1331 01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:30,760 Speaker 1: lad is and who he's been since two thousand and 1332 01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:33,400 Speaker 1: eight and what he's done in the space to progress. 1333 01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:36,360 Speaker 1: It plays a part in that. So you can't cheapen 1334 01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:38,160 Speaker 1: it after the work is done and say, hey, if 1335 01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:39,679 Speaker 1: he did that, he could do it right. Like niggas 1336 01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:41,519 Speaker 1: look at at and say, nigga, if I get on 1337 01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:43,400 Speaker 1: Twitch and sit down and just talk twenty four seven, 1338 01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:45,320 Speaker 1: I can do it. No, you can't. You can't because 1339 01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:48,519 Speaker 1: you're missing a big chunk of that. Man. Man, man, 1340 01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:51,479 Speaker 1: either I'm the smartest nigga doing it or these niggas 1341 01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:54,439 Speaker 1: is losing it. He just said prior to that that 1342 01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:56,719 Speaker 1: if I go get married, I can do what Adam 1343 01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:58,720 Speaker 1: is like for two million of money. Again, it's just 1344 01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:02,559 Speaker 1: about seeing the niggas just listening, loon, actively listening. I'm 1345 01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:06,160 Speaker 1: a different individual. I come in this game fully prepared, 1346 01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:10,479 Speaker 1: fully equipped, and I know the way see a lot 1347 01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:13,679 Speaker 1: of these niggas just moving fast, but loon know the way. 1348 01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:16,920 Speaker 1: I always remember knowing the way. It's more important than 1349 01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:19,439 Speaker 1: moving fast, because it's people ahead of you that don't 1350 01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:22,680 Speaker 1: know where a goal. They're just going faster than you. 1351 01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:25,400 Speaker 1: But you know, if I turn right right here, and 1352 01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:27,679 Speaker 1: I turn left up there, and I take this road 1353 01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:30,639 Speaker 1: and I end up there before them, and they going 1354 01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:34,800 Speaker 1: ninety miles an hour, you understand, and I'll be able 1355 01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:38,080 Speaker 1: to give directions to the destination. Because I was able 1356 01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:40,400 Speaker 1: to be alert in the way. I wasn't moving so 1357 01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:42,960 Speaker 1: fast to way. I couldn't even tell you what happened. 1358 01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:45,960 Speaker 1: I just ended uphill. Now I'm gonna tell you. I 1359 01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:48,160 Speaker 1: went right there. I've done this. Then I took that 1360 01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:52,320 Speaker 1: information over there. I spent it there. These niggas are 1361 01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:56,760 Speaker 1: not build as they buyers. See, I'm a founder. It's 1362 01:14:56,760 --> 01:15:00,880 Speaker 1: a different talk. It's a different cloth you hit. These 1363 01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:06,080 Speaker 1: dudes discuss numbers. He got Joe Booten at three point 1364 01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:10,320 Speaker 1: five million. That's wrong. They don't even got Gilley and 1365 01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:14,720 Speaker 1: Wallow on the list. That's wrong. No, I mean they 1366 01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:16,880 Speaker 1: don't even gotta have Loan on the list. That's fine. 1367 01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:22,040 Speaker 1: Keep Loan off the list, I get five figures a ad. 1368 01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:25,440 Speaker 1: You got to notice a few more things in this conversation. 1369 01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:29,960 Speaker 1: I think everybody in the space is equally important. If 1370 01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:33,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest, I think everybody is needed. I 1371 01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:35,559 Speaker 1: think I don't look at all of you niggas because 1372 01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:37,640 Speaker 1: everybody do something that Joe don't do. I think it 1373 01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:39,760 Speaker 1: does and I think they do the dividing conquer on 1374 01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:42,479 Speaker 1: purpose and you subscribe to it. So I think that 1375 01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:44,479 Speaker 1: if you go get one hundred and fifty mil, I 1376 01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:46,200 Speaker 1: think you should be on the phone with Act. I 1377 01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:47,720 Speaker 1: think you should be on the phone with Charlotte Man. 1378 01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:49,479 Speaker 1: I think you should be on the phone with Gilly saying, Yo, 1379 01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:53,400 Speaker 1: between us, I got a buck fifty, y'all nigga's going 1380 01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:55,560 Speaker 1: in and get what y'all worth. The fact that you 1381 01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:58,200 Speaker 1: keep it and you don't tell nobody, Now, that does 1382 01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:00,800 Speaker 1: allow ACT to going there and get twenty million when 1383 01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:03,160 Speaker 1: you got one fifty. They was willing to give ACT ninety. 1384 01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:05,479 Speaker 1: They was willing to give Act one thirty. You only 1385 01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:08,439 Speaker 1: got thirty because Joe didn't tell you. Yo, they got 1386 01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:10,000 Speaker 1: a bag over there and they've given it a way 1387 01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:14,160 Speaker 1: and I didn't get it. The day changes with the 1388 01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:16,600 Speaker 1: different companies. Interesting comes. I'm just saying, but that, but 1389 01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:18,120 Speaker 1: you get what I'm saying, Like, I think if you're 1390 01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:23,479 Speaker 1: behindation before, that's like when fucking that's like when Dame right, 1391 01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:25,840 Speaker 1: Dame had called me and somebody else out for not 1392 01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:28,880 Speaker 1: sharing the Spotify plug when we were when we were 1393 01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:31,160 Speaker 1: at Spotify, and it was like, Joe maybe supposed to 1394 01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:35,160 Speaker 1: build and share the information, and Damon's my man, Damon's 1395 01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:38,519 Speaker 1: want me money, won't gave me information. He's always been 1396 01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:41,680 Speaker 1: solid with me, So that hurt when I saw him 1397 01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:43,880 Speaker 1: say that, But we didn't kick it for him to know. 1398 01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:47,679 Speaker 1: I ain't on good terms with these things. I can't 1399 01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:49,880 Speaker 1: plug I can't plug you in and I'm over here. 1400 01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:51,880 Speaker 1: I'm over here fighting for my life. Hey with you. 1401 01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:53,640 Speaker 1: When I was going a vote, I was like, yo, 1402 01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:55,559 Speaker 1: I think we give more money with puff. I gotta 1403 01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:58,400 Speaker 1: respect when you're saying I found behind you over there 1404 01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:00,400 Speaker 1: and I ain't heard from them niggas you leave it, 1405 01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:03,640 Speaker 1: I get more over there. Gotta respect that right the 1406 01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:09,280 Speaker 1: difference companies, I think it should be Union Dame should 1407 01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:13,160 Speaker 1: have had Dame did the right thing. He should have 1408 01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:16,439 Speaker 1: said that. And again Joe Bowden. What's wrong with Maybe 1409 01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:19,599 Speaker 1: Dame has an expertise you don't have and can get 1410 01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:22,439 Speaker 1: something done. You can't get done, you know what I mean? 1411 01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:25,040 Speaker 1: So Hey, bro, it ain't working because I can't do it. 1412 01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:27,559 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, Man, if I couldn't do it, nobody 1413 01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:29,439 Speaker 1: can do it. Na. That ain't how we're doing this. 1414 01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:33,160 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Collectively we might can get 1415 01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:35,560 Speaker 1: it done. You know what I'm saying. You can't just 1416 01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:38,200 Speaker 1: keep coming to report to us, Yo, it it ain't 1417 01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:41,559 Speaker 1: we can't do it, Bro, they ain't doing it. Nah, Man, 1418 01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:44,479 Speaker 1: that ain't how this work. Ain't you in position over 1419 01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:47,080 Speaker 1: the Spotify and Dame got a whole network of shit 1420 01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:49,320 Speaker 1: over there. He could have been early on one of 1421 01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:51,640 Speaker 1: them deals. You plugged them earlier over there and got 1422 01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:55,480 Speaker 1: in somebody. El That's what I'm talking about. But everybody 1423 01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:58,960 Speaker 1: thinking about their self and they're masking it like they 1424 01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:06,960 Speaker 1: plotting in play in and some I got it. It's 1425 01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:12,680 Speaker 1: one hundreds every day, one hundred thousand niggas cream rises 1426 01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:15,000 Speaker 1: at the drop no matter what. I ain't gotta crush 1427 01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:17,400 Speaker 1: you because if you really dope, which I believe you are, 1428 01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:21,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna rise same with them niggas over there, and 1429 01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:25,240 Speaker 1: him him seans, even niggas, I don't like, you can 1430 01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:29,479 Speaker 1: still see the rise, and so I don't know where 1431 01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:32,360 Speaker 1: it is. But he went on the ass academics though, 1432 01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:35,920 Speaker 1: you you think geling wall on them make ten million? 1433 01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:38,680 Speaker 1: You think you can see ten million? And this is 1434 01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:41,479 Speaker 1: a weird question, but he said, do you think you 1435 01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:44,240 Speaker 1: can that you can see that they make ten million 1436 01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:46,320 Speaker 1: dollars a year based on I guess what they wear 1437 01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:49,080 Speaker 1: or something. I'm not sure what he's looking for. Um 1438 01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:52,160 Speaker 1: then at say, Yo, I see some foreigns, but I 1439 01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:56,080 Speaker 1: don't know where they're living. This is what they're saying 1440 01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:58,280 Speaker 1: over there. It's clear that them dudes got a bag. Like, 1441 01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:03,880 Speaker 1: let's even take that conversation off the market. That conversation 1442 01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:08,680 Speaker 1: needs no validity. Them dudes just hustling the hard over there, 1443 01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:14,519 Speaker 1: so they got the bag. It's just interesting, interesting to 1444 01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:18,120 Speaker 1: see how you kind of smudge that. And Yo, I 1445 01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:20,320 Speaker 1: can't do what they're doing. Man, they're doing too much, 1446 01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:23,080 Speaker 1: bro god Lee, they're doing a lot. It's like, yo, man, 1447 01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:27,600 Speaker 1: they're working too hard. You ever been like at a 1448 01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:32,160 Speaker 1: job site and it's like Nigga's over in the corner, like, man, 1449 01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:34,200 Speaker 1: he's doing too much. Man, he's gonna make the boss. Man, 1450 01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:36,960 Speaker 1: he's working too hard. That's the kind of vibe it is. 1451 01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:43,160 Speaker 1: But Willow, I guess, kind of hinted at somewhat of 1452 01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:46,960 Speaker 1: a response. Let's pay attention. Competing with me, you're the 1453 01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:49,960 Speaker 1: fucking trouble because I gave you a twenty year head start, 1454 01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:52,240 Speaker 1: and I don't know no nigga out here that's trying 1455 01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:54,120 Speaker 1: to compete with me. They've been out here the whole 1456 01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:56,479 Speaker 1: time I was in jail. And you compete with me, 1457 01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:00,719 Speaker 1: you fucked up. You already lost. You gave a nigga 1458 01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:02,840 Speaker 1: how many years year ahead start, you've been out here. 1459 01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:04,800 Speaker 1: So if you're just starting to do and you think 1460 01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:07,519 Speaker 1: you're competing with me, the nigga that came out of 1461 01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:13,240 Speaker 1: jail on Perule the dead already already lost dead. So 1462 01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:15,840 Speaker 1: I would advise you just to focus on your thing, 1463 01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:18,960 Speaker 1: be motivated about what we do, but don't fuck with 1464 01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:21,680 Speaker 1: me because you already lost because you've been out here. 1465 01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:28,839 Speaker 1: It's a different clothes man, Right, Niggas come about a tornado. 1466 01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:31,720 Speaker 1: Y'all have been sitting on computers and with cameras in 1467 01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:34,360 Speaker 1: your hands for the last twenty years and now you 1468 01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:36,160 Speaker 1: got his in a little shit, you know, being able 1469 01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:39,320 Speaker 1: to scrape up. Y'all niggas ain't no hustlers to me, 1470 01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:42,160 Speaker 1: And that's basically what I'd be saying. And all these 1471 01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:45,080 Speaker 1: old shots and shit like, let's have these conversations, let's 1472 01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:47,880 Speaker 1: iron these things out. Let's figure out what the issue 1473 01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:50,519 Speaker 1: lies and why the niggas hiding information and acting like 1474 01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:53,720 Speaker 1: they're the only ones getting money. We all getting money 1475 01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:57,320 Speaker 1: off this ship. None of you niggas ain't talking about none. 1476 01:20:57,400 --> 01:21:00,679 Speaker 1: At the end of the day. You eggas ain't having 1477 01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:03,840 Speaker 1: no hustle for real. That's why I look abnormal When 1478 01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:06,720 Speaker 1: you see a nigga break a brick down? What he doing? Man, 1479 01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:09,960 Speaker 1: the nigga broke He's selling dimes. Ho, I'm buying ten 1480 01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:13,599 Speaker 1: of them. I'm buying ten bricks and breaking them down. 1481 01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:15,640 Speaker 1: The zips And just because you're buying a half a 1482 01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:17,560 Speaker 1: zip or zip at the time, you think that's the 1483 01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:21,240 Speaker 1: only thing I'm selling. You niggas as fools. What you're 1484 01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:24,080 Speaker 1: witnessing is I'm coming through this game and breaking a 1485 01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:27,160 Speaker 1: brick down. I'm taking this contented little bit over him 1486 01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:29,360 Speaker 1: on Instagram, most of it on Patron a little bit 1487 01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:32,280 Speaker 1: on YouTube, a little bit over him on Facebook. I'm 1488 01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:35,200 Speaker 1: breaking a brick down and I'm serving ain't it's doing good. 1489 01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:37,920 Speaker 1: But you nigga's been in position all this time and 1490 01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:39,920 Speaker 1: you can't even show me no numbers and how much 1491 01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:43,320 Speaker 1: Murch you them moved. You niggas can't even show me 1492 01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:45,679 Speaker 1: no real ticket sales, and you've been having a fan 1493 01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:49,559 Speaker 1: base all this time. Y'all niggas get viewers confused with fans. 1494 01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:55,840 Speaker 1: Y'all niggas get views confused with ticket sales, and y'all 1495 01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:58,439 Speaker 1: go to talking like y'all really moving shit, and y'all 1496 01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:01,880 Speaker 1: monumental because the Shade don't post you just because you 1497 01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:04,320 Speaker 1: just because you niggas get covered here and there. You 1498 01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:06,439 Speaker 1: niggas think that y'all some kind of big fish in 1499 01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:10,280 Speaker 1: the game, but we know better than that. Let's get 1500 01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:14,559 Speaker 1: to why even paid attention to this episode with act 1501 01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:16,840 Speaker 1: and Joe Buttons, because this was on the heels of 1502 01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:20,920 Speaker 1: academics Button his nose and Diddy business and Young Miami's 1503 01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:24,800 Speaker 1: business and being a little disrespectful with his communication like 1504 01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:27,120 Speaker 1: he often does when he's on Twitch. And then he 1505 01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:29,920 Speaker 1: comes to the Internet and says man, why they mad 1506 01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:33,519 Speaker 1: at me. It's like he almost disconnects when he gets 1507 01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:36,080 Speaker 1: a certain level of drunk. That ain't even the same person. 1508 01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:40,479 Speaker 1: But anyway, he said some things that's uncomfortable, and we're 1509 01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:43,160 Speaker 1: gonna play some of them, and also we're gonna speak 1510 01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:46,760 Speaker 1: about what Young Miami said in response to it. I'm 1511 01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:50,599 Speaker 1: gonna lay some framework as to what happened. News hit 1512 01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:54,559 Speaker 1: the blogs that Diddy had welcomed a child into the world. 1513 01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:58,240 Speaker 1: Diddy has made it known that he's single, but Karasha 1514 01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:03,280 Speaker 1: Young Miami especial shooting him for whatever reason. Academics and 1515 01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:05,599 Speaker 1: a lot of these blogs are interested in what did 1516 01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:09,880 Speaker 1: these private life is and what he's doing. And so 1517 01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:16,639 Speaker 1: when that news hit the hit the internet, academics said 1518 01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:18,560 Speaker 1: that he knew who the lady was. All of this 1519 01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:20,880 Speaker 1: was on Twitch. I know who the baby mama was. 1520 01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:25,479 Speaker 1: And he started to make somewhat of a joke of 1521 01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:31,160 Speaker 1: the personal lives of these celebrity people. Right, and let's 1522 01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:33,800 Speaker 1: just say, if Young Miami is in love, she hurt 1523 01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:36,160 Speaker 1: because of that. And then some nigga with two three 1524 01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:39,360 Speaker 1: five million followers and screaming at the top of his 1525 01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:42,880 Speaker 1: lungs about what I am and this and that. It's like, 1526 01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:46,720 Speaker 1: it's an uncomfortable situation to put yourself in. First, we're 1527 01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:50,880 Speaker 1: gonna look at what academics said on Twitch. They're kind 1528 01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:54,960 Speaker 1: of fluid because it's a baby mama. That's the key 1529 01:23:55,120 --> 01:24:01,400 Speaker 1: to your legacy, that's the other half to your offspring. 1530 01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:04,360 Speaker 1: But y'all, whether you want to admit it or not, 1531 01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:07,040 Speaker 1: you're in a harem. And it's interesting when you said 1532 01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:08,960 Speaker 1: that I called you out your name, like I think 1533 01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:10,960 Speaker 1: you were reacting to my tweet, or maybe you were reacting. 1534 01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:12,720 Speaker 1: I didn't say your name on my live when I 1535 01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:14,200 Speaker 1: was on Twitch, but I didn't say your name in 1536 01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:16,120 Speaker 1: a tweet earlier. And I'll show you the tweet right now. 1537 01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:19,800 Speaker 1: This is my tweet. Let me show you the tweet 1538 01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:22,560 Speaker 1: that that got her all bent out of shape. I 1539 01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:25,080 Speaker 1: said this. I said, Diddy is different, my nigga that 1540 01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:27,240 Speaker 1: fucked around and had a side baby on his aram 1541 01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:30,760 Speaker 1: of side chicks. Brother loves a real one. You know, 1542 01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:34,040 Speaker 1: I didn't say your name because you ain't the only 1543 01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:38,880 Speaker 1: one you want a roster. You're a Tuesday chick, and 1544 01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:42,040 Speaker 1: today not Tuesday. It's gonna be tomorrow, today, not Tuesday. 1545 01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:44,880 Speaker 1: You're Tuesday chick, not good enough for the weekend, and 1546 01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:50,880 Speaker 1: not a Friday Tuesday. Also not hump Day Tuesday. What's 1547 01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:56,639 Speaker 1: your name Tuesday? Okay, so I know you think y're 1548 01:24:56,640 --> 01:25:00,720 Speaker 1: oh you're Tuesday, and I see in your attempt it 1549 01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:05,960 Speaker 1: was weak. Let's be senior. Weak attempt. All this is 1550 01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:09,080 Speaker 1: at a woman you love to call bullying and cry 1551 01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:11,600 Speaker 1: and oh I'm getting shamed. But you you try to 1552 01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:16,000 Speaker 1: do the same thing. So let's also mention some of 1553 01:25:16,040 --> 01:25:19,560 Speaker 1: your tweets at me. Maybe you think side chick is 1554 01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:21,559 Speaker 1: that derogative. I actually don't think it is at all. 1555 01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:23,080 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people have realized side chicken 1556 01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:25,880 Speaker 1: is not derogative term if that's what you are. But 1557 01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:28,840 Speaker 1: let's talk about calling someone what they're not and using 1558 01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:32,120 Speaker 1: derogative terms. I didn't know what this, I thought every 1559 01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:34,560 Speaker 1: time he kept saying punk, I didn't know what that is. 1560 01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:37,400 Speaker 1: Apparently that's a derogative term for being a gay individual. 1561 01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:40,280 Speaker 1: I'm not gay. I care not. I don't even want 1562 01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:43,439 Speaker 1: you to be canceled. Also, if it wasn't an opposite way, 1563 01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:45,760 Speaker 1: and if I called you the B word, or if 1564 01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:49,880 Speaker 1: I called you something that was derogative, derogatory, you and 1565 01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:52,479 Speaker 1: the entire shade room, and everybody would be calling for 1566 01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:56,400 Speaker 1: my head. This is what I don't understand. A side 1567 01:25:56,479 --> 01:26:01,320 Speaker 1: chicken is derogatory if I have and admitted to being 1568 01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:05,760 Speaker 1: a side chick and the dude is publicly saying I'm 1569 01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:08,400 Speaker 1: not his side chick. So who are you to deem 1570 01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:13,839 Speaker 1: me something that the people that's involved have not agreed 1571 01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:16,880 Speaker 1: that those are the circumstances. This is what's weird about 1572 01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:19,960 Speaker 1: these new age guys because these ain't me and these 1573 01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:24,519 Speaker 1: heads guys. Yeah, now, these guys. It's a difference between 1574 01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:27,599 Speaker 1: men and guys. So when we deal with these hill guys, 1575 01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:32,880 Speaker 1: it becomes uncomfortable for me and you. And so here 1576 01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:36,160 Speaker 1: we are listening to a guy who who is sitting 1577 01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:40,120 Speaker 1: in his house talking about someone else having a baby 1578 01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:46,280 Speaker 1: on someone else, causing confusion at a man's doorstep. Why 1579 01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:50,000 Speaker 1: I'm from We know what that can lead to. Right, 1580 01:26:50,439 --> 01:26:54,680 Speaker 1: You don't scramble my eggs. You need to focus on yo. 1581 01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:57,519 Speaker 1: You don't scramble now. You don't you need to leave 1582 01:26:57,640 --> 01:27:01,320 Speaker 1: this anything over here about this hill. You need lead 1583 01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:04,880 Speaker 1: this alone. This ain't yo beas and it's over He'll 1584 01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:08,840 Speaker 1: player player City girl these days is just a low esteemed, 1585 01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:12,280 Speaker 1: a low self esteemed chick brow. All of that city girl, 1586 01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:15,000 Speaker 1: hot girl, icy girls stuff has come to a end. 1587 01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:18,200 Speaker 1: And it's all took the same thing that people have 1588 01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:20,360 Speaker 1: preached for decades. Man, you know what I mean. A 1589 01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:22,040 Speaker 1: woman started making a little bit of money, she thinks 1590 01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:24,439 Speaker 1: shit balls, she boshit balls whatever whatever alto. She meet 1591 01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:26,880 Speaker 1: a nigga who got a bigger bag, and Diddy is 1592 01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:29,880 Speaker 1: a chick. To really end all that shit, Young Miami 1593 01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:31,680 Speaker 1: is like Diddy side chick, like one of them, like 1594 01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:33,920 Speaker 1: a bunch of like he got like about a eight nine. 1595 01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:36,719 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Um, Okay, maybe I shouldn't 1596 01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:39,680 Speaker 1: call her a side chick because nobody would be like, yo, 1597 01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:42,120 Speaker 1: how could she be a side if she's mad, she's one. 1598 01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:45,360 Speaker 1: She she's a she's on the roster. And they trying 1599 01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:47,880 Speaker 1: to like words samantic you to death. I'm not a 1600 01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:51,640 Speaker 1: side chick. He's single. I'm single. We're there, we're fract Bro, 1601 01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:53,880 Speaker 1: you're a side check bro, Like I don't even find 1602 01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:57,040 Speaker 1: what you're talking about. Like you know, you're a side chick. Bro, 1603 01:27:57,200 --> 01:27:59,720 Speaker 1: Like stop playing bro. Like everyone they try to word 1604 01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:04,000 Speaker 1: some no no, but if you are my roster you're 1605 01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:05,960 Speaker 1: a side chick. Even if I don't tell him, girl, 1606 01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:09,960 Speaker 1: then who start letting these niggas like academics make the 1607 01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:13,960 Speaker 1: rules about whose side chicks and all that kind of shit. Man, 1608 01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:16,479 Speaker 1: you can't hand the one woman, your woman beating you 1609 01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:19,360 Speaker 1: up and then reaching around you swinging on people can 1610 01:28:19,479 --> 01:28:22,120 Speaker 1: bust your No, she don't even respect you at the 1611 01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:24,479 Speaker 1: screaming at the top of your I'm the prize, I'm 1612 01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:27,599 Speaker 1: the do you know, like, well you who you were? You? Man? 1613 01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:30,720 Speaker 1: Come on, man, we're not listening to you. We're not 1614 01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:34,920 Speaker 1: listening to academics about what the parameters are for a 1615 01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:39,280 Speaker 1: relationship and a side chick when he ain't never got 1616 01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:43,519 Speaker 1: no pussy, he ain't paid for. You know what I'm saying, 1617 01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:46,400 Speaker 1: don't knock niggas for paying for pussy. That's they whatever 1618 01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:49,519 Speaker 1: hustle or support the women, whatever hustle they got going on. 1619 01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:52,400 Speaker 1: I support that. If niggas want to pay for puts 1620 01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:55,560 Speaker 1: it as them academics. Ain't never had no pussy, he 1621 01:28:55,600 --> 01:28:58,760 Speaker 1: ain't paid for or gave some kind of cloud or 1622 01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:01,880 Speaker 1: some soul, some kind of dream that he gonna post 1623 01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:05,880 Speaker 1: some or something. Ain't nobody liking him, You understand I'm 1624 01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:08,120 Speaker 1: telling you that I ain't never meant no woman to 1625 01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:12,519 Speaker 1: say academics is the nigga. Here's something I don't understand. 1626 01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:17,760 Speaker 1: Right on the heels of a baby being announced, with 1627 01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:22,600 Speaker 1: all the people involved comfortable with the position, arrives a 1628 01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:26,160 Speaker 1: short sack of clothes, screaming in the house built in 1629 01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:29,920 Speaker 1: the early nineties, screaming louder than the people that's involved. 1630 01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:33,439 Speaker 1: And there's several ways that I can speak about this, 1631 01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:35,479 Speaker 1: but I'll do it the short way and say, what 1632 01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:39,639 Speaker 1: business is it of yours? When did men start worrying 1633 01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:45,160 Speaker 1: about how other men women feel about them? When did 1634 01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:51,160 Speaker 1: men start worrying about how other men women feel about them? Man, 1635 01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:53,920 Speaker 1: if these women over here think I'm God or the devil, 1636 01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:59,240 Speaker 1: they ain't got nothing to do with you, young man. 1637 01:29:59,320 --> 01:30:01,840 Speaker 1: Aim ain't look then, no academics, not even for no 1638 01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:05,479 Speaker 1: no co sign on, no music or nothing. They ain't 1639 01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:08,479 Speaker 1: even interested in being involved with dudes like him at all. 1640 01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:12,080 Speaker 1: So help me understand how you get involved? And then 1641 01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:14,560 Speaker 1: it ain't never like y'all. Man, come out ak. You 1642 01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:17,360 Speaker 1: ain't invited to the did it parties? And I'll let 1643 01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:20,240 Speaker 1: you ain't even in the circle. So you know what 1644 01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:22,920 Speaker 1: I think we're dealing with is a guy who was 1645 01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:26,120 Speaker 1: not embraced by the village, so he's coming to try 1646 01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:29,719 Speaker 1: to burn it down. You know what I'm saying. It's 1647 01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:33,479 Speaker 1: like a reject kind of dude, and I don't want 1648 01:30:33,479 --> 01:30:35,760 Speaker 1: to come off again like I'm beat little in them. 1649 01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:40,280 Speaker 1: I'm just dealing with this information. My content is strong 1650 01:30:40,439 --> 01:30:44,960 Speaker 1: enough to live without it. But he's involving people that 1651 01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:48,559 Speaker 1: I care about. And if I'm Spotify, I'm really upset 1652 01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:52,280 Speaker 1: that academics is on Twitch like that, Yo, this podcast 1653 01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:54,519 Speaker 1: is doing. They look, yeah, we're paying you in p 1654 01:30:54,720 --> 01:30:58,439 Speaker 1: nuts next if you re up, like, we literally gonna 1655 01:30:58,439 --> 01:31:02,160 Speaker 1: pay you in p nuts. So either were not fit 1656 01:31:02,240 --> 01:31:04,120 Speaker 1: to re up with you, or you're gonna take a 1657 01:31:04,439 --> 01:31:07,880 Speaker 1: really lesser rate or a different deal because you sit 1658 01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:10,320 Speaker 1: on twitch y'all day and you ain't even forming your 1659 01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:13,519 Speaker 1: podcast at all. And this is what warns you the money. 1660 01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:16,080 Speaker 1: Twitch found out that you were stupid enough to do 1661 01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:19,519 Speaker 1: it for free, so they stopped paying him out here. 1662 01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:22,200 Speaker 1: Just sit over here. He'll just do it for the 1663 01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:24,640 Speaker 1: subs and all this little shit. He ain't making no 1664 01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:27,240 Speaker 1: real cash over here. We were paying them to be 1665 01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:30,600 Speaker 1: over here. At first, they showed you he's no longer effective. 1666 01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:35,639 Speaker 1: These companies do it for rensic investigation on people's impact. 1667 01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:39,280 Speaker 1: Why you think Twitch stopped paying academics? Why you think 1668 01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:42,360 Speaker 1: Spotify probably won't re up? If they re up, I 1669 01:31:42,520 --> 01:31:46,519 Speaker 1: guarantee he get a lord number. The podcast is next 1670 01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:50,519 Speaker 1: to nothing in the market. It's doing zero. But then 1671 01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:53,960 Speaker 1: I asked myself, damn man, because the information I got 1672 01:31:54,040 --> 01:31:56,720 Speaker 1: why I come from. Boy, you be careful when you're 1673 01:31:56,760 --> 01:32:01,080 Speaker 1: dealing with powerful men women. You really be careful with 1674 01:32:01,200 --> 01:32:04,240 Speaker 1: dealing with women because you don't know who they're attached to. Right, 1675 01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:06,840 Speaker 1: And a lot of times a nigga die by the woman, 1676 01:32:07,439 --> 01:32:09,840 Speaker 1: right because see, you deal with my woman, and you 1677 01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:12,439 Speaker 1: do something out of the ordinary to my woman, and 1678 01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:15,439 Speaker 1: I send somebody through that it's comfortable putting your head 1679 01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:18,320 Speaker 1: in a bag and milling it somewhere. Now you dealing 1680 01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:20,760 Speaker 1: with that, You never knew that that was the consequences. 1681 01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:24,040 Speaker 1: Now he you was dealing with somebody you know tied to, 1682 01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:28,559 Speaker 1: did it on your platform with millions of people calling 1683 01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:31,200 Speaker 1: her side chick, And then we got love for her. Man. 1684 01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:34,599 Speaker 1: That's young Miami. They love her in Miami. I get 1685 01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:36,960 Speaker 1: a call from the Zoles me, I get a call. 1686 01:32:37,040 --> 01:32:39,960 Speaker 1: I'm telling y'all, I'm big tapped in. I get a 1687 01:32:40,040 --> 01:32:42,960 Speaker 1: call from the big Zoles down in Miami. Man, he 1688 01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:47,240 Speaker 1: just went in violation. Man, we love her father. Man, 1689 01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:49,519 Speaker 1: he on they're calling her name talking about her call 1690 01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:53,360 Speaker 1: shooting up. He went in violation. Man, we came. I'm 1691 01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:56,120 Speaker 1: saying that's what he'd do. He don't know the danger 1692 01:32:56,320 --> 01:32:59,960 Speaker 1: put itself in. See academics is standing in front of 1693 01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:02,360 Speaker 1: slot machine. That he don't know what happens when he 1694 01:33:02,479 --> 01:33:05,840 Speaker 1: becomes the winner. All he knows he hit the bells 1695 01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:08,400 Speaker 1: and whistles, which is his views go up. He ain't, 1696 01:33:08,520 --> 01:33:12,439 Speaker 1: ain't nobody never bought him the prize yet faule l 1697 01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:16,599 Speaker 1: shitty stirring up over there, right, So he's a he's 1698 01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:20,400 Speaker 1: a winner. He's hitting the jackpot on disrespect and he 1699 01:33:20,479 --> 01:33:22,960 Speaker 1: don't know what it feel like. We know, fucking with 1700 01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:27,439 Speaker 1: Nigga's backyard. Get you in trouble, man, Nigga, don't play 1701 01:33:27,439 --> 01:33:29,920 Speaker 1: about that. You got her calling me crying and shit 1702 01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:32,960 Speaker 1: about what you're saying. You got her calling me. You 1703 01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:36,280 Speaker 1: don't really cause problems in my life about some shit 1704 01:33:36,400 --> 01:33:39,840 Speaker 1: you saying? And he folks comfortable over here. I got 1705 01:33:39,920 --> 01:33:43,000 Speaker 1: this under control over here, and I got some some 1706 01:33:43,240 --> 01:33:48,479 Speaker 1: nigga that ain't what number black talking about who loved 1707 01:33:48,560 --> 01:33:51,200 Speaker 1: me and how much they wouldn't accept fucking with me 1708 01:33:51,640 --> 01:33:54,360 Speaker 1: in the hood or just being in our culture for real. 1709 01:33:54,479 --> 01:33:58,000 Speaker 1: From our culture. They tell you when you're young, meddling 1710 01:33:58,120 --> 01:34:01,360 Speaker 1: worse than stealing. But I know, don't nothing feel dangerous 1711 01:34:01,400 --> 01:34:03,400 Speaker 1: when you're in the house looking at them cameras in 1712 01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:07,760 Speaker 1: the dog talking on Twitch, keep taking shots to Henna 1713 01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:11,280 Speaker 1: said two seconds, don't none feel dangerous down there? Boy, 1714 01:34:11,320 --> 01:34:13,960 Speaker 1: I'm incredible hulk down here. I can talk talk talk, 1715 01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:16,080 Speaker 1: And let me be clear, you ain't gonna trigger us 1716 01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:18,400 Speaker 1: out of our position. We're gonna just keep shining on you. 1717 01:34:18,920 --> 01:34:21,439 Speaker 1: We're gonna keep shining on you, putting it in your face, 1718 01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:24,479 Speaker 1: making you deal with it. Because you're trying to trick 1719 01:34:24,600 --> 01:34:27,200 Speaker 1: niggas out there position, because you know a nigga emotionally 1720 01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:30,360 Speaker 1: are tied to disrespect, you're trying to trigger shit, or 1721 01:34:30,439 --> 01:34:33,080 Speaker 1: you may not know that because you ain't emotionally tied 1722 01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:36,120 Speaker 1: to disrespect. A nigga being your face called you a bit, 1723 01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:38,840 Speaker 1: smack you. I don't let you. Ain't gonna do nothing, 1724 01:34:38,880 --> 01:34:41,439 Speaker 1: So you don't understand why they act like that. Damn, 1725 01:34:41,479 --> 01:34:45,479 Speaker 1: it's just I'm just but meddling is worse than stealing. 1726 01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:47,479 Speaker 1: And where we're from, do you know what we do 1727 01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:52,920 Speaker 1: with thieves? What you're doing is meddling, and meddling worse 1728 01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:55,400 Speaker 1: than stilling where we from, do you know what the 1729 01:34:55,479 --> 01:34:59,240 Speaker 1: fuck we do with thieves. Don't nobody fuck with a 1730 01:34:59,320 --> 01:35:02,840 Speaker 1: thief while I'm from a thief, mama, don't funk with 1731 01:35:03,040 --> 01:35:05,400 Speaker 1: him a thief, daddy, don't fuck with him a thief. 1732 01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:08,760 Speaker 1: Don't nobody fuck with and you middling, and it's worse 1733 01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:13,519 Speaker 1: than stilling. Somebody needs to put your boots on. Dog. 1734 01:35:13,640 --> 01:35:15,680 Speaker 1: You got too much money to be worrying about this. 1735 01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:19,719 Speaker 1: Ain't you making money over what you niggas are sitting 1736 01:35:19,800 --> 01:35:23,200 Speaker 1: up doing, worrying about us, worrying about what niggas is 1737 01:35:23,280 --> 01:35:26,479 Speaker 1: doing and what's up with you niggas. And it'd be 1738 01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:29,360 Speaker 1: so crazy because it'll be like you'll be on the 1739 01:35:29,439 --> 01:35:32,479 Speaker 1: internet time a fighting people like fighting baby and shit. 1740 01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:36,000 Speaker 1: Nigga man a nigga, donna, Hey, listen, stop that man. 1741 01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:38,960 Speaker 1: Nigga doing everything he can to view you as a 1742 01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:43,640 Speaker 1: media nigga. Man, Stop talking violent shit man quit that 1743 01:35:43,960 --> 01:35:49,759 Speaker 1: dog stopping. You ain't got a scone. You ain't stop dad, nigga, 1744 01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:54,320 Speaker 1: you know you got to hide talking like that. Stop 1745 01:35:54,479 --> 01:35:57,240 Speaker 1: that man. You ain't cut like that, you ain't built 1746 01:35:57,320 --> 01:36:00,400 Speaker 1: like that. You ain't gonna do nothing for your self, 1747 01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:03,679 Speaker 1: and then people around you're gonna get fucked over fucking 1748 01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:09,439 Speaker 1: with you. Man, Stop that shit. How the fuck is you? 1749 01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:12,000 Speaker 1: Time by niggas ain't posed to take it serious and 1750 01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:13,559 Speaker 1: you're on the end of that time. I'm putting your 1751 01:36:13,600 --> 01:36:18,040 Speaker 1: hands on grown men. Ain't nobody in a nigga life 1752 01:36:18,080 --> 01:36:20,360 Speaker 1: ever put their hands on a nigga, and ain't nothing 1753 01:36:20,400 --> 01:36:22,920 Speaker 1: happened to hit Come a nigga like academics telling about 1754 01:36:22,960 --> 01:36:25,960 Speaker 1: what he gonna do to a nigga. Academics, ain't never 1755 01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:29,080 Speaker 1: heard a person in his life, and he gonna start 1756 01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:32,880 Speaker 1: with a nigga worth millions of dollars. This some shit 1757 01:36:32,960 --> 01:36:36,240 Speaker 1: a nigga wants me to believe, ain't never heard of 1758 01:36:36,400 --> 01:36:39,000 Speaker 1: nothing in his life. Can't control this woman, and you're 1759 01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:41,439 Speaker 1: gonna hurt a powerful black man. You want me to 1760 01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:43,760 Speaker 1: believe that, Shut the fuck up and sit down and 1761 01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:46,840 Speaker 1: then get drunk. Man, Just shut the fuck up and 1762 01:36:46,880 --> 01:36:50,080 Speaker 1: stay out nigga's way where we're from, black men putting 1763 01:36:50,120 --> 01:36:52,360 Speaker 1: their hands on each other. Tell me what they lead to? 1764 01:36:53,360 --> 01:36:55,439 Speaker 1: Some shit the academics ain't willing to do, and he 1765 01:36:55,520 --> 01:36:59,799 Speaker 1: just throws it around like it's I'm confused, thoroughly confused. 1766 01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:02,920 Speaker 1: I don't understand how they get themselves even involved in 1767 01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:06,240 Speaker 1: these conversations knowing they ain't even built like that. Ain't 1768 01:37:06,280 --> 01:37:08,200 Speaker 1: nothing they ever gonna be able to do, gonna be 1769 01:37:08,240 --> 01:37:11,680 Speaker 1: able to sustain next to a niggati's powerful in these positions. 1770 01:37:11,960 --> 01:37:14,760 Speaker 1: Y'all niggas is hads, beings are never war. Was talking 1771 01:37:14,840 --> 01:37:18,120 Speaker 1: like what y'all gonna do? Stop it? Then we're gonna 1772 01:37:18,160 --> 01:37:21,479 Speaker 1: talk about at going a flock o, which is someone 1773 01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:23,600 Speaker 1: that works for No Jumper Adam twenty two. If you 1774 01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:25,960 Speaker 1: haven't saw that interview with me and him, go see that. 1775 01:37:26,080 --> 01:37:33,960 Speaker 1: It's out right now doing tremendous. But um, we're gonna 1776 01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:36,280 Speaker 1: get to Gunna and Thug right, I'm just waiting on 1777 01:37:36,360 --> 01:37:39,200 Speaker 1: his people to hit me back. So I've meant communication 1778 01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:41,439 Speaker 1: with Gunna and Thugs people, and that's why I haven't 1779 01:37:41,479 --> 01:37:43,960 Speaker 1: spoke about it yet because I may get one of 1780 01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:46,639 Speaker 1: them on the phone, or I may get some statements 1781 01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:49,040 Speaker 1: or something from Thug or Gunna or that they people 1782 01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:51,840 Speaker 1: just as to what they want to say to the 1783 01:37:51,960 --> 01:37:55,680 Speaker 1: people or on behalf for them. You understand me, and 1784 01:37:56,920 --> 01:37:59,200 Speaker 1: you know, see see what it is that's that's going 1785 01:37:59,320 --> 01:38:05,840 Speaker 1: on over everything. He go turbo calling me. Now, what's 1786 01:38:05,880 --> 01:38:09,559 Speaker 1: going on? My brother? That was just a call from 1787 01:38:09,600 --> 01:38:12,680 Speaker 1: Gunner's right hand man. So he's with Gunna right now. 1788 01:38:13,880 --> 01:38:16,599 Speaker 1: Of course I can't tell y'all what we talked about, um, 1789 01:38:18,920 --> 01:38:22,479 Speaker 1: but yeah, all right, so we're back. I had to 1790 01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:26,760 Speaker 1: take that phone call. Now here's the thing. Academics goes 1791 01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:29,840 Speaker 1: at Floco Floco. He's built like AK and the XX 1792 01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:32,600 Speaker 1: like ACA. So AC embraced him because he saw a 1793 01:38:32,680 --> 01:38:35,599 Speaker 1: clone in him. See there's another weird thing that happens 1794 01:38:35,640 --> 01:38:37,960 Speaker 1: in the industry that they'll give you a shot if 1795 01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:40,280 Speaker 1: you just like them because they can sun you for 1796 01:38:40,400 --> 01:38:42,920 Speaker 1: your whole life. Let me turn this up, so they 1797 01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:46,400 Speaker 1: can hit me. If you just like them and you 1798 01:38:46,520 --> 01:38:49,920 Speaker 1: copy them, and it's clear that you a clone, you 1799 01:38:50,040 --> 01:38:53,280 Speaker 1: might get a chance because what will happened is they 1800 01:38:53,360 --> 01:38:55,800 Speaker 1: know they can sun you your whole life. That's my son. 1801 01:38:55,880 --> 01:38:59,320 Speaker 1: He looked he doing everything I do, so Flocco appeared 1802 01:38:59,360 --> 01:39:01,920 Speaker 1: on the scene, academics kind of embraced him a little bit, 1803 01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:04,840 Speaker 1: like yo, I like what he's doing, because again, the 1804 01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:09,519 Speaker 1: exact same format is at But Flocco probably noticed that 1805 01:39:09,680 --> 01:39:12,599 Speaker 1: AC ain't helping nobody just talking, ain't he ain't doing 1806 01:39:12,640 --> 01:39:15,120 Speaker 1: no business. The white boy doing better business than him. 1807 01:39:18,600 --> 01:39:21,639 Speaker 1: So Flocco also is a student of the game, I guess, 1808 01:39:21,720 --> 01:39:24,120 Speaker 1: so he knows everybody. So he knew some people that 1809 01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:26,519 Speaker 1: Act was beefing. Were brought him on No Jump and 1810 01:39:26,600 --> 01:39:28,840 Speaker 1: interviewed them, and they said he did a whole bunch 1811 01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:31,880 Speaker 1: of cock buffing, you know. They said he did a 1812 01:39:31,920 --> 01:39:34,920 Speaker 1: whole bunch of giving praise to one of Act's enemies, 1813 01:39:35,640 --> 01:39:38,040 Speaker 1: and Act took it a certain kind of way, and 1814 01:39:38,160 --> 01:39:41,800 Speaker 1: I found it to be interesting because Acts are weird though, right. 1815 01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:44,679 Speaker 1: He plays both sides of the field office and defense 1816 01:39:44,760 --> 01:39:47,400 Speaker 1: on every play, and he tends to not understand when 1817 01:39:47,479 --> 01:39:50,400 Speaker 1: people below him does that. I think he believes if 1818 01:39:50,439 --> 01:39:53,400 Speaker 1: it's beneficial, it's okay to play both sides, and if 1819 01:39:53,439 --> 01:39:56,360 Speaker 1: it ain't beneficial, then maybe you shouldn't do it. But 1820 01:39:56,479 --> 01:39:59,880 Speaker 1: that ain't being real word, and that ain't hh integrited work. 1821 01:40:00,160 --> 01:40:02,920 Speaker 1: But they don't have a compass or the coordinates on 1822 01:40:03,160 --> 01:40:06,200 Speaker 1: being real because they've been faked they whole life. These 1823 01:40:06,280 --> 01:40:09,200 Speaker 1: people been inserted in positions that they didn't work for. 1824 01:40:09,680 --> 01:40:12,120 Speaker 1: You arrived the work early, so you got the first 1825 01:40:12,200 --> 01:40:14,880 Speaker 1: piece of chicken. You got the big piece of chicken. 1826 01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:16,960 Speaker 1: Not because you're the man of the house. You just 1827 01:40:17,120 --> 01:40:19,880 Speaker 1: had your plate and you was in lying first. Let's 1828 01:40:19,920 --> 01:40:21,160 Speaker 1: take a look at a little bit of this, and 1829 01:40:21,200 --> 01:40:23,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna speak on this because I'm done playing with 1830 01:40:23,240 --> 01:40:27,599 Speaker 1: these dudes. Let me just keep it, keep it real 1831 01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:30,800 Speaker 1: with y'all. Niggas. I see, you know, Adam set me 1832 01:40:30,960 --> 01:40:33,280 Speaker 1: like some shit that nigga is trying to like, you 1833 01:40:33,280 --> 01:40:34,559 Speaker 1: know what I mean. I don't know if that nigga 1834 01:40:34,600 --> 01:40:36,560 Speaker 1: flock are trying to deck rise some nigga who's just 1835 01:40:36,840 --> 01:40:39,479 Speaker 1: hating on me. Because whatever the cases, there's some nigga 1836 01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:45,160 Speaker 1: who the name is, um Um, what's your name? Give me, 1837 01:40:45,439 --> 01:40:47,400 Speaker 1: give me, give me his name, give me, give me 1838 01:40:47,439 --> 01:40:49,479 Speaker 1: a name, give me some because I don't know who'd 1839 01:40:49,520 --> 01:40:51,519 Speaker 1: be Like I'm acting like I'm Hollywood, like, give me 1840 01:40:51,600 --> 01:40:53,240 Speaker 1: his name. I was just gonna tell you what the 1841 01:40:53,280 --> 01:40:55,280 Speaker 1: real ship is, bro, Like I'm gonna tell you. I 1842 01:40:55,320 --> 01:40:59,000 Speaker 1: don't let me. Let me just put in perspective. Hey, 1843 01:40:59,640 --> 01:41:01,840 Speaker 1: I I've been keeping the real and keeping a cool 1844 01:41:01,880 --> 01:41:04,439 Speaker 1: with everybody, but big act don't need none of yall niggas. 1845 01:41:04,560 --> 01:41:06,960 Speaker 1: I just want to tell you how that facts. So 1846 01:41:08,479 --> 01:41:10,880 Speaker 1: I just want to tell even Flocko Bro, don't come 1847 01:41:10,920 --> 01:41:12,679 Speaker 1: over here and fuck with me like you you're cool 1848 01:41:12,720 --> 01:41:14,920 Speaker 1: with me. And then I see on on a fucking 1849 01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:17,880 Speaker 1: interview with a nigga who don't fuck with me period, 1850 01:41:18,360 --> 01:41:21,200 Speaker 1: and then you over here talking to a nigga who 1851 01:41:21,320 --> 01:41:23,880 Speaker 1: was literally trying to kick my backing type shit. I 1852 01:41:23,960 --> 01:41:25,680 Speaker 1: don't deal with a ship like that, monigga. I deal 1853 01:41:25,680 --> 01:41:27,840 Speaker 1: with chat niggas, ship, bro, and I don't need you 1854 01:41:27,920 --> 01:41:29,960 Speaker 1: on my platform. Nigga, you could do what you what 1855 01:41:30,120 --> 01:41:32,840 Speaker 1: the fuck you want to do on Adams platform. I 1856 01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:36,559 Speaker 1: build niggas. I ain't never asked for shiit. I build niggas. 1857 01:41:36,640 --> 01:41:38,720 Speaker 1: I never asked for ship. Let me ask. Let let 1858 01:41:38,760 --> 01:41:42,240 Speaker 1: me say it again. Listen to this nigga, Who the 1859 01:41:42,360 --> 01:41:47,400 Speaker 1: fuck did he build? Y'all listening somewhere along the lines, 1860 01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:50,679 Speaker 1: niggas get confused. Man, Nick Hennessy is a bad Who 1861 01:41:50,760 --> 01:41:54,120 Speaker 1: did he build? Give me one person? I got time, 1862 01:41:54,600 --> 01:42:08,240 Speaker 1: Let's see if I can find some music for you, niggas. 1863 01:42:08,280 --> 01:42:12,120 Speaker 1: I ain't even ask your shit that nigga Adam, and 1864 01:42:12,200 --> 01:42:14,679 Speaker 1: I don't care if Adam cats feelings or what. Adam 1865 01:42:14,920 --> 01:42:18,840 Speaker 1: hired you nigga to be a replica me, nigga. So 1866 01:42:19,000 --> 01:42:21,599 Speaker 1: when I see it like you over here, like try 1867 01:42:21,640 --> 01:42:24,560 Speaker 1: to partake it into niggas who ain't really fucking with 1868 01:42:24,640 --> 01:42:26,280 Speaker 1: what I got going on, and they trying to throw 1869 01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:28,120 Speaker 1: me under the bus. I don't fuck with that. I 1870 01:42:28,200 --> 01:42:30,639 Speaker 1: wanted on Adam when yeah, I thought he did that shit. 1871 01:42:31,160 --> 01:42:33,559 Speaker 1: So if you're gonna do some pussy shit like that, bro, 1872 01:42:33,760 --> 01:42:35,639 Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep it up being with you, I don't 1873 01:42:35,640 --> 01:42:37,160 Speaker 1: and by the way I mean, and you will never 1874 01:42:37,240 --> 01:42:39,120 Speaker 1: be I'm gonna tell you right now. But I'm just 1875 01:42:39,200 --> 01:42:40,920 Speaker 1: trying to tell you. Please leave my name out of 1876 01:42:40,920 --> 01:42:43,680 Speaker 1: your mouth. Please leave my name out your mouth, Lead 1877 01:42:43,680 --> 01:42:46,040 Speaker 1: my name out your mouth. Please don't come over here 1878 01:42:46,160 --> 01:42:48,800 Speaker 1: and try to act like you you're politicking with us, 1879 01:42:48,840 --> 01:42:52,360 Speaker 1: because I don't play both sides. I gotta Adam about that. 1880 01:42:52,479 --> 01:42:55,479 Speaker 1: Both sides shit, I don't do that. I don't respect 1881 01:42:55,560 --> 01:42:58,479 Speaker 1: no nigga who ever try to funk with both shit. 1882 01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:02,560 Speaker 1: I only fuck with chat niggas, facts and niggas on 1883 01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:06,120 Speaker 1: here talking about who he built? Who did he build? Y'all? 1884 01:43:06,160 --> 01:43:08,599 Speaker 1: Give me a name? I got time today. Somebody give 1885 01:43:08,680 --> 01:43:18,600 Speaker 1: me one name that academics built. I got time. Anybody's 1886 01:43:18,720 --> 01:43:22,280 Speaker 1: give me one name. I'm waiting type it. Put it somewhere. 1887 01:43:22,439 --> 01:43:26,960 Speaker 1: Anybody one name DJ academics put on, not too just one. 1888 01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:38,639 Speaker 1: This dude is literally on here talking about who he did? 1889 01:43:38,800 --> 01:43:44,599 Speaker 1: What for? Man, give me one name. You can't give 1890 01:43:44,680 --> 01:43:47,080 Speaker 1: me a name. He's putting nobody on. And that's the 1891 01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:50,240 Speaker 1: other thing I hate about the Internet. It allows niggas 1892 01:43:50,280 --> 01:43:54,720 Speaker 1: with no muscles to flex niggas on. I put chat 1893 01:43:54,880 --> 01:43:57,439 Speaker 1: niggas on. It should have been somebody like, Yo, who 1894 01:43:57,520 --> 01:43:59,479 Speaker 1: is this niggas? Who he put on? Who did he? 1895 01:44:00,439 --> 01:44:04,559 Speaker 1: Who did this? Thinker put on? You ain't even sold 1896 01:44:04,640 --> 01:44:12,080 Speaker 1: T shirts? Stop it, beat it. I know your liar. 1897 01:44:13,360 --> 01:44:17,640 Speaker 1: You are liars. The fuck they think they're tricking man, 1898 01:44:17,720 --> 01:44:19,920 Speaker 1: ain't no where in the world. You're gonna have me 1899 01:44:20,080 --> 01:44:23,000 Speaker 1: believe that you believe you put these people on. And 1900 01:44:23,120 --> 01:44:26,479 Speaker 1: here's the thing the dude say, he don't play both sides. 1901 01:44:26,680 --> 01:44:36,280 Speaker 1: I know your liar, you are liars. Help me understand. 1902 01:44:36,439 --> 01:44:40,479 Speaker 1: What about Vlad and Joe Button? You cool with both 1903 01:44:40,520 --> 01:44:43,519 Speaker 1: of them, right? What about Charlemagne and Joe Button? What 1904 01:44:43,600 --> 01:44:48,000 Speaker 1: about Sholtz and Joe Button? What about Kodak Black and 1905 01:44:48,120 --> 01:44:50,200 Speaker 1: jack Boy? You had both of them right? What about 1906 01:44:50,280 --> 01:44:52,720 Speaker 1: Takashia after what he said about savage and then you 1907 01:44:52,880 --> 01:44:56,439 Speaker 1: had savage? Is that playing both sides? Does that seem 1908 01:44:56,560 --> 01:44:58,400 Speaker 1: like what the other dude did that you had a 1909 01:44:58,520 --> 01:45:01,600 Speaker 1: problem with. But the people under them, they want to 1910 01:45:01,680 --> 01:45:04,559 Speaker 1: not empower them to be involved with things that can 1911 01:45:04,640 --> 01:45:09,160 Speaker 1: catapult their brand. They want them to pigeonhole themselves and 1912 01:45:09,520 --> 01:45:11,880 Speaker 1: apply to these certain little rules. Don't talk about that, 1913 01:45:12,040 --> 01:45:14,320 Speaker 1: don't do that, don't mention that, because man, that ain't 1914 01:45:14,360 --> 01:45:16,200 Speaker 1: really cool. Well, if I don't do none of that, 1915 01:45:16,320 --> 01:45:19,560 Speaker 1: I never break outside from being under you niggas. I 1916 01:45:19,680 --> 01:45:22,320 Speaker 1: gotta take a few risks, interview a few motherfuckers to 1917 01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:24,760 Speaker 1: be from up under you niggas. You're gonna tell me 1918 01:45:24,920 --> 01:45:27,360 Speaker 1: I don't play both sides, But you're gonna interview Kodak 1919 01:45:27,439 --> 01:45:29,720 Speaker 1: Black and Jack Boy when they had out, when they 1920 01:45:29,840 --> 01:45:31,960 Speaker 1: was at the tip top of their beef. You don't 1921 01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:34,920 Speaker 1: play both sides. But Takashi said some things about twenty 1922 01:45:34,960 --> 01:45:38,200 Speaker 1: one savage and you had them on now the same 1923 01:45:38,320 --> 01:45:40,840 Speaker 1: way you do. You try to do NBA, Young Boy 1924 01:45:40,880 --> 01:45:44,920 Speaker 1: and Dirt, But Dirk been wanted. The Dirk and Baby 1925 01:45:45,680 --> 01:45:47,800 Speaker 1: then't been the two niggas that play you to the level, 1926 01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:51,240 Speaker 1: like they ain't even trying to reach out to you. 1927 01:45:51,320 --> 01:45:54,120 Speaker 1: Fuck what, You're nothing. You've been bigging Dirt for an 1928 01:45:54,120 --> 01:45:56,519 Speaker 1: interview for years. He keeps playing you to the level. 1929 01:45:57,000 --> 01:45:59,680 Speaker 1: He know you a bozo. Now I'm gonna come. I'm 1930 01:45:59,680 --> 01:46:03,120 Speaker 1: gonna fam just keep posting it now. I'm definitely now, 1931 01:46:03,160 --> 01:46:05,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna come soon I get some time, or I'm 1932 01:46:05,080 --> 01:46:08,280 Speaker 1: sly it's a snooze face over. I don't nobody want 1933 01:46:08,320 --> 01:46:12,280 Speaker 1: to come over and do no motherfucking show. But you 1934 01:46:12,400 --> 01:46:14,639 Speaker 1: got that popping Instagram. We gotta figure out a way 1935 01:46:14,680 --> 01:46:17,040 Speaker 1: to try to steal, you know what I mean? Street 1936 01:46:17,120 --> 01:46:20,719 Speaker 1: nigga shit, don't none beat the finesse. But the finesse 1937 01:46:21,280 --> 01:46:24,799 Speaker 1: all right. Finally we talked about what's took the Internet 1938 01:46:24,920 --> 01:46:30,000 Speaker 1: by storm. In the wire Cell Rico case out of 1939 01:46:30,040 --> 01:46:36,160 Speaker 1: Fulton County, Georgia, Rapper Gunner among others, were released from 1940 01:46:36,439 --> 01:46:42,120 Speaker 1: jail while the Rico chargers going on they've reached a 1941 01:46:42,200 --> 01:46:45,800 Speaker 1: plea agreement. It wasn't just Gunna, it was a number 1942 01:46:45,800 --> 01:46:50,000 Speaker 1: of people that reached that agreement, and the news hit 1943 01:46:50,040 --> 01:46:52,200 Speaker 1: the internet. Let's take a look at what the news 1944 01:46:52,280 --> 01:46:57,439 Speaker 1: said about Gunna, his release and the circumstances surrounded the 1945 01:46:57,640 --> 01:47:01,400 Speaker 1: deal that sat Gunna free. I'm major development in a 1946 01:47:01,520 --> 01:47:06,000 Speaker 1: huge racketeering case. The Atlanta born rapper Gunna, whose given 1947 01:47:06,080 --> 01:47:09,280 Speaker 1: name is Sergio Kitchens, made a deal with prosecutors and 1948 01:47:09,439 --> 01:47:12,559 Speaker 1: walked out of the Fulton County jail late this afternoon. 1949 01:47:12,640 --> 01:47:15,519 Speaker 1: Now Gunna will not have to stand trial early next 1950 01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:18,200 Speaker 1: year with Rapper Young Thug and more than two dozen 1951 01:47:18,280 --> 01:47:22,120 Speaker 1: other defendants who prosecutors say were part of a racketeering conspiracy. 1952 01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:24,760 Speaker 1: But Gunna wants everyone to know that while he did 1953 01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:27,080 Speaker 1: make a deal with prosecutors, he will not have to 1954 01:47:27,160 --> 01:47:30,360 Speaker 1: testify against any of the others. Or John Cherick is 1955 01:47:30,400 --> 01:47:35,080 Speaker 1: on the store for us tonight, Gunnas Sergio Kitchens leading 1956 01:47:35,120 --> 01:47:38,720 Speaker 1: the Fulton County jails, seven months after he'd surrendered. He 1957 01:47:39,000 --> 01:47:42,400 Speaker 1: is a freeman. The man Fulton County prosecutors had said 1958 01:47:42,520 --> 01:47:45,599 Speaker 1: was deeply involved with Rapper Young Thug and twenty six 1959 01:47:45,680 --> 01:47:50,080 Speaker 1: others in a violent gang called YSL. Gunna pleaded guilty 1960 01:47:50,200 --> 01:47:53,000 Speaker 1: to one count of racketeering, and it was an Alfred 1961 01:47:53,120 --> 01:47:56,400 Speaker 1: Plea meeting. Gunna does not admit to doing anything wrong 1962 01:47:56,760 --> 01:48:00,360 Speaker 1: despite pleading guilty to the charge. I'm pleading guilt but 1963 01:48:00,479 --> 01:48:05,920 Speaker 1: not admitting I'm guilty. It's just legal jargone, legal maneuvering. 1964 01:48:06,160 --> 01:48:08,960 Speaker 1: But it's the same as a regular guilty plate. Prosecutors 1965 01:48:09,040 --> 01:48:11,479 Speaker 1: likely just wanted Gunna out of the way as they 1966 01:48:11,560 --> 01:48:15,479 Speaker 1: focus on trying to convict the others. Gunna was charged 1967 01:48:15,560 --> 01:48:18,519 Speaker 1: with just one count of racketeering. In the massive indictment, 1968 01:48:18,680 --> 01:48:21,520 Speaker 1: he was accused of dealing in drugs and stolen merchandise 1969 01:48:21,640 --> 01:48:25,400 Speaker 1: along with other alleged gang members. By contrast, young thug 1970 01:48:25,520 --> 01:48:29,400 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Williams was indicted on eight counts. Gunna made it 1971 01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:31,880 Speaker 1: clear and a public statement released by his attorney that 1972 01:48:32,040 --> 01:48:35,040 Speaker 1: his deal with prosecutors does not require him to be 1973 01:48:35,160 --> 01:48:38,320 Speaker 1: a prosecution witness against the others. Quote. I have not 1974 01:48:38,520 --> 01:48:41,880 Speaker 1: made any statements, have not been interviewed, have not cooperated, 1975 01:48:42,040 --> 01:48:44,240 Speaker 1: have not agreed to testify or be a witness for 1976 01:48:44,560 --> 01:48:47,120 Speaker 1: or against any party in the case. He's trying to 1977 01:48:47,200 --> 01:48:50,280 Speaker 1: save his cred and his world Gunna says that as 1978 01:48:50,360 --> 01:48:52,800 Speaker 1: part of his deal with prosecutors, he will, now as 1979 01:48:52,840 --> 01:48:55,799 Speaker 1: he put it, try to educate young people that gangs 1980 01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:59,080 Speaker 1: and violence only lead to destruction. So you see that 1981 01:49:00,080 --> 01:49:02,560 Speaker 1: that went on fire with that. Um, I'm plugged in 1982 01:49:02,720 --> 01:49:06,639 Speaker 1: with people close to Gonna, Gunna as well and his team, 1983 01:49:07,439 --> 01:49:10,280 Speaker 1: and I'm being asked to just let this play out, 1984 01:49:10,640 --> 01:49:13,840 Speaker 1: and so you know, we're gonna try to see what 1985 01:49:14,240 --> 01:49:17,600 Speaker 1: was happening. Now while they did release Gunna, thug is 1986 01:49:17,680 --> 01:49:20,800 Speaker 1: still letting their fighting and he's fighting for his life. 1987 01:49:22,479 --> 01:49:25,759 Speaker 1: A lot of blogs, academics whack one hundred little boosts, 1988 01:49:25,760 --> 01:49:28,519 Speaker 1: a lot of people came out started called calling Gunna 1989 01:49:28,680 --> 01:49:32,720 Speaker 1: snitch right because a video came out and this was 1990 01:49:32,800 --> 01:49:35,760 Speaker 1: a fucked up video and I'm gonna show you high 1991 01:49:35,840 --> 01:49:38,439 Speaker 1: level games that's being played in Folton County. Let's take 1992 01:49:38,479 --> 01:49:41,040 Speaker 1: a look at this video of what they say. It's 1993 01:49:41,120 --> 01:49:51,360 Speaker 1: gonna in court speaking to the judge, I can't as 1994 01:49:51,400 --> 01:49:59,920 Speaker 1: it changed to us, Yes, fightself and you have person 1995 01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:04,000 Speaker 1: acknowledge that members or associates of hyself have committed crimes 1996 01:50:04,120 --> 01:50:08,880 Speaker 1: and partments of the game. Yes, you were present when 1997 01:50:08,960 --> 01:50:13,320 Speaker 1: law enforcement officers stopped the vehicle in which you were 1998 01:50:13,400 --> 01:50:18,400 Speaker 1: present along with Jeffrey Williams, wherein hydrocodo, methamphetamines and a 1999 01:50:18,479 --> 01:50:24,400 Speaker 1: fuirearm were recovered. These items did not belong to you. Yes, 2000 01:50:25,720 --> 01:50:30,599 Speaker 1: and do you acknowledge the following statement? I recognize, accept 2001 01:50:30,720 --> 01:50:34,800 Speaker 1: and deeply regret that my talent and music indirectly further? 2002 01:50:35,080 --> 01:50:37,839 Speaker 1: Why sell the game to the detriment of my community? 2003 01:50:38,240 --> 01:50:41,200 Speaker 1: Why self as a game Muskin? Is that your statement 2004 01:50:41,320 --> 01:50:48,439 Speaker 1: or acknowledgement? Yes, I became affiliated with my self around 2005 01:50:48,520 --> 01:50:51,759 Speaker 1: two thousand and sixteen. Is that true as it pertains 2006 01:50:51,800 --> 01:50:56,679 Speaker 1: to you, mister Kitchens. Yes, by Self is a music 2007 01:50:56,800 --> 01:51:00,479 Speaker 1: label and a game, and you have personal knowledge that 2008 01:51:00,640 --> 01:51:04,559 Speaker 1: members or associates of Byself have committed crimes and furtherments 2009 01:51:04,600 --> 01:51:10,040 Speaker 1: of the game. You were present when law enforcement officers 2010 01:51:10,120 --> 01:51:14,080 Speaker 1: stopped the vehicle in which you were present along with 2011 01:51:14,240 --> 01:51:19,840 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Williams, where in hydrocodo, methemphetamines and a firearm were recovered. 2012 01:51:20,160 --> 01:51:25,840 Speaker 1: These items did not belong to you? Yes? And do 2013 01:51:25,960 --> 01:51:31,040 Speaker 1: you acknowledge the following statement? I recognized, accept and deeply 2014 01:51:31,120 --> 01:51:35,360 Speaker 1: regret that my talent and music indirectly further Why set 2015 01:51:35,439 --> 01:51:38,240 Speaker 1: on the game to the detriment of my community by 2016 01:51:38,400 --> 01:51:43,360 Speaker 1: self as a game muskin. Is that your statement or acknowledgement. Yes, 2017 01:51:45,240 --> 01:51:49,519 Speaker 1: I became affiliated with by Self around two thou sixteen. 2018 01:51:50,400 --> 01:51:52,559 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if he is who caught that video, 2019 01:51:52,680 --> 01:51:56,840 Speaker 1: but someone intentionally caught that video. To put that out right, 2020 01:51:57,040 --> 01:52:00,240 Speaker 1: all this is to pressure Thug even more. This is 2021 01:52:00,280 --> 01:52:03,800 Speaker 1: trying to pressure Thug because if they're giving please, I 2022 01:52:03,840 --> 01:52:07,479 Speaker 1: would imagine that he's received some kind of offer that's 2023 01:52:07,520 --> 01:52:10,240 Speaker 1: not favorable that he's like, are you serious? No way? 2024 01:52:11,320 --> 01:52:14,000 Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. Now, here's the trick what 2025 01:52:14,200 --> 01:52:18,080 Speaker 1: I imagine to happen. And this is me just speculating, 2026 01:52:18,160 --> 01:52:20,000 Speaker 1: because what we're gonna do is let it play out 2027 01:52:20,040 --> 01:52:22,960 Speaker 1: and see exactly what the chips fall. But what I 2028 01:52:23,080 --> 01:52:26,519 Speaker 1: think the state is preparing for is for Thug to 2029 01:52:26,640 --> 01:52:29,559 Speaker 1: possibly go to trial. Now, if Thug goes to trial 2030 01:52:30,280 --> 01:52:34,479 Speaker 1: and they attempt to use Ghanna and all of these people, 2031 01:52:35,280 --> 01:52:38,320 Speaker 1: they imagine that these people are gonna insert the filth 2032 01:52:38,360 --> 01:52:42,320 Speaker 1: amendment that could have some effect on the testimony or 2033 01:52:42,439 --> 01:52:46,360 Speaker 1: on how the jury even sees the picture, the clip 2034 01:52:46,400 --> 01:52:48,640 Speaker 1: picture that they would like to paint to try to 2035 01:52:48,720 --> 01:52:52,599 Speaker 1: even convict Thug. They now, so what I believe. They 2036 01:52:52,720 --> 01:52:56,000 Speaker 1: just did was have him read some stuff on the 2037 01:52:56,120 --> 01:53:01,040 Speaker 1: record that they're gonna use in a different way. Now, 2038 01:53:01,280 --> 01:53:03,800 Speaker 1: they may say he may plead the filth, and that's 2039 01:53:03,840 --> 01:53:06,439 Speaker 1: even if it gets to trial. But even if gonna 2040 01:53:06,520 --> 01:53:08,600 Speaker 1: please to filth up there, what they may try to 2041 01:53:08,720 --> 01:53:15,200 Speaker 1: do is say, hey, you and Jeffrey Williams were caught 2042 01:53:15,240 --> 01:53:18,360 Speaker 1: with pills and you were the right dadda, I plead 2043 01:53:18,400 --> 01:53:21,840 Speaker 1: the filth. Okay, you know about crimes committed by why 2044 01:53:21,880 --> 01:53:24,880 Speaker 1: I sail, I plead the filth? Well, you said to us, 2045 01:53:25,040 --> 01:53:27,879 Speaker 1: because what they are able to say, it's what's already 2046 01:53:27,920 --> 01:53:31,719 Speaker 1: been established on the record. Right, So those three sentences. 2047 01:53:31,760 --> 01:53:34,680 Speaker 1: Because the first thing I said when I heard that is, Yo, 2048 01:53:34,800 --> 01:53:36,559 Speaker 1: you don't need that for a plea. Why would they 2049 01:53:36,600 --> 01:53:40,559 Speaker 1: make him say that for a plea? You don't need 2050 01:53:40,720 --> 01:53:43,400 Speaker 1: that involve yourself in that way. You don't even have 2051 01:53:43,520 --> 01:53:45,920 Speaker 1: to say none of that. I just I plead guilty. 2052 01:53:46,040 --> 01:53:49,719 Speaker 1: That's it. So when they had him read that, it's like, Okay, 2053 01:53:50,520 --> 01:53:54,080 Speaker 1: that move right there says to me something and I 2054 01:53:54,160 --> 01:53:56,400 Speaker 1: don't give it for who. None of you niggas is 2055 01:53:57,120 --> 01:54:00,639 Speaker 1: if you ain't never been in trouble before, like never 2056 01:54:00,760 --> 01:54:03,040 Speaker 1: been in no real trouble and they got a life 2057 01:54:03,080 --> 01:54:05,680 Speaker 1: sentence on you, or twin or ten whatever on you. 2058 01:54:06,240 --> 01:54:09,479 Speaker 1: That's a lot of pressure. Meet me, had been in 2059 01:54:09,560 --> 01:54:12,080 Speaker 1: trouble before in my life, I would instantly say, Yo, 2060 01:54:12,160 --> 01:54:14,840 Speaker 1: why why she want me to say that? You know 2061 01:54:14,880 --> 01:54:16,720 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, What is that? That ain't I don't 2062 01:54:16,760 --> 01:54:19,560 Speaker 1: have to say that for the plea, Like, that's not 2063 01:54:19,880 --> 01:54:21,920 Speaker 1: we don't have to do that for a plea. So 2064 01:54:22,479 --> 01:54:25,000 Speaker 1: I believe they're gonna use that in a different way. 2065 01:54:25,280 --> 01:54:29,280 Speaker 1: And I think that they are ahead of gonna trying 2066 01:54:29,320 --> 01:54:31,600 Speaker 1: to plead the fifth and they're gonna try to embarrass 2067 01:54:31,800 --> 01:54:33,840 Speaker 1: him and put a label on him and do all 2068 01:54:33,880 --> 01:54:37,120 Speaker 1: of that shit before it even happens. And so I'm 2069 01:54:37,200 --> 01:54:41,560 Speaker 1: receiving phone calls and people saying a loan, Yo, that's snitching, Bro, 2070 01:54:41,720 --> 01:54:44,280 Speaker 1: that's snitching. And I'm just like, man, this shit is here, 2071 01:54:44,360 --> 01:54:48,720 Speaker 1: This shit here crazy, you know. And on the other side, 2072 01:54:48,920 --> 01:54:52,200 Speaker 1: you see thugs still fighting, you know what I'm saying. 2073 01:54:53,080 --> 01:54:57,280 Speaker 1: And I think that's what people are pointing out on 2074 01:54:57,360 --> 01:55:00,560 Speaker 1: the internet, is that does this affect the fight? Does 2075 01:55:00,640 --> 01:55:03,720 Speaker 1: this hurt the fight? Like he's still fighting right now, 2076 01:55:03,800 --> 01:55:07,680 Speaker 1: He's still trying to come home. I also believe that 2077 01:55:07,840 --> 01:55:12,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna reaching a plea. This almost should be illegal, 2078 01:55:14,400 --> 01:55:16,880 Speaker 1: because how can I be so dangerous that I can't 2079 01:55:16,920 --> 01:55:19,000 Speaker 1: get a bomb as soon as I But you can 2080 01:55:19,080 --> 01:55:22,680 Speaker 1: give me a time served plea that shows that they 2081 01:55:22,800 --> 01:55:28,560 Speaker 1: are abusing their power. You give me a time serve plea. 2082 01:55:29,200 --> 01:55:31,720 Speaker 1: And yesterday I couldn't get a bond because I was 2083 01:55:31,800 --> 01:55:34,880 Speaker 1: one of the most dangerous men in the world and 2084 01:55:34,960 --> 01:55:37,920 Speaker 1: I was Intimi theid witnesses and this and that, and 2085 01:55:38,080 --> 01:55:40,680 Speaker 1: today I get the goal just because I like, how 2086 01:55:40,840 --> 01:55:43,000 Speaker 1: is that even a thing? How is that legal? How's 2087 01:55:43,040 --> 01:55:48,600 Speaker 1: the legal system even allowing such unbalanced approaches? Another thing 2088 01:55:48,680 --> 01:55:51,480 Speaker 1: about the court, And when I was talking to Gunna people, 2089 01:55:51,520 --> 01:55:53,280 Speaker 1: they said this to me. They said, Lune, he'd been 2090 01:55:53,320 --> 01:55:55,720 Speaker 1: in a seven months for nothing, said Lune, He'd been 2091 01:55:55,760 --> 01:55:59,520 Speaker 1: in a seven months, not saying nothing, just sitting in there. 2092 01:56:00,880 --> 01:56:03,480 Speaker 1: And I'm like, down the show. It show have been 2093 01:56:03,600 --> 01:56:07,400 Speaker 1: selling months the whole case, right. I think what the 2094 01:56:07,480 --> 01:56:11,320 Speaker 1: Internet is also saying, and what we know is that 2095 01:56:11,520 --> 01:56:14,040 Speaker 1: thug is trying to establish that wire sell is not 2096 01:56:14,160 --> 01:56:17,680 Speaker 1: a game, and they continue to have people say that 2097 01:56:17,800 --> 01:56:21,760 Speaker 1: it's a game. And so now people who've never been 2098 01:56:21,840 --> 01:56:23,760 Speaker 1: in the criminal system are trying to figure out how 2099 01:56:23,840 --> 01:56:26,960 Speaker 1: those two things trying to each other. Because if he's 2100 01:56:27,000 --> 01:56:30,080 Speaker 1: standing on the other side of this with a life 2101 01:56:30,120 --> 01:56:32,440 Speaker 1: sentence over his head saying this is not a game, 2102 01:56:32,920 --> 01:56:35,040 Speaker 1: and then half the people from this side went to 2103 01:56:35,160 --> 01:56:39,360 Speaker 1: the other side to say, hey, this is a game. 2104 01:56:39,880 --> 01:56:43,440 Speaker 1: What does that do to his position in court far 2105 01:56:43,520 --> 01:56:46,560 Speaker 1: as his innocence is concerned? Before I get it a 2106 01:56:46,680 --> 01:56:50,400 Speaker 1: thug and him getting back in courting and his lawyer 2107 01:56:51,280 --> 01:56:54,040 Speaker 1: showing y'all that he's really a dog. That board lawyer 2108 01:56:54,200 --> 01:56:57,880 Speaker 1: is not done to play with. Right, Brian Steele, I 2109 01:56:57,960 --> 01:57:00,200 Speaker 1: think is his name, and everybody in the line to 2110 01:57:00,280 --> 01:57:02,440 Speaker 1: know he cut like that. Everybody out and talk to 2111 01:57:02,560 --> 01:57:05,520 Speaker 1: say now alone, he really cut like that. And I 2112 01:57:05,680 --> 01:57:09,160 Speaker 1: watched the whole hearing, right, because when I speak about things, 2113 01:57:09,240 --> 01:57:12,080 Speaker 1: I don't like to speak just from clip wise. I 2114 01:57:12,200 --> 01:57:15,960 Speaker 1: like to really indulge in. For me, communication is so important. 2115 01:57:16,240 --> 01:57:19,600 Speaker 1: And I'm peeping him, you know, as he's communicating what 2116 01:57:19,720 --> 01:57:24,440 Speaker 1: he's doing, his manner rhysms, the language, the verbs he's using. Right, 2117 01:57:24,640 --> 01:57:27,800 Speaker 1: I'm peeping this whole schwag because what you're doing in court, 2118 01:57:28,360 --> 01:57:32,520 Speaker 1: you're in a very interesting situation as the lawyer of 2119 01:57:32,680 --> 01:57:36,080 Speaker 1: someone like a young thug that's being accused of being 2120 01:57:36,120 --> 01:57:40,000 Speaker 1: the head of a criminal empire. Right, and now we're 2121 01:57:40,080 --> 01:57:44,680 Speaker 1: trying to ask the judge to suppress a good portion 2122 01:57:44,760 --> 01:57:48,040 Speaker 1: of this evidence. And if we're able to get that done, 2123 01:57:48,120 --> 01:57:51,680 Speaker 1: that affects this case. There's a large interest in not 2124 01:57:51,920 --> 01:57:55,080 Speaker 1: allowing us to suppress this evidence. Right. When I look 2125 01:57:55,120 --> 01:57:57,960 Speaker 1: at gonna situation, I say, when I look at this 2126 01:57:58,080 --> 01:58:01,240 Speaker 1: whole situation, you know, when they first happened, I was 2127 01:58:01,360 --> 01:58:04,200 Speaker 1: always saying, they don't really got none special on Gunna, 2128 01:58:04,240 --> 01:58:08,920 Speaker 1: they don't got much. Now. I think that the district Attorney, 2129 01:58:09,120 --> 01:58:12,960 Speaker 1: along with the Folton County judicial system, allowed her to 2130 01:58:13,040 --> 01:58:17,600 Speaker 1: abuse her power because the idea that she wouldn't even 2131 01:58:17,640 --> 01:58:21,000 Speaker 1: give Gunna, somebody that had never been in trouble, a bond, 2132 01:58:21,520 --> 01:58:28,280 Speaker 1: was crazy. She was using jail as part of her 2133 01:58:28,440 --> 01:58:34,120 Speaker 1: negotiation tactics. And I think that that's completely unfair because 2134 01:58:34,360 --> 01:58:37,040 Speaker 1: if he was so dangerous and he was a threat, 2135 01:58:37,160 --> 01:58:41,560 Speaker 1: why is he Why isn't he a threat? Now? If 2136 01:58:41,640 --> 01:58:45,280 Speaker 1: he was somebody that was intimidating witnesses and got some 2137 01:58:45,440 --> 01:58:49,120 Speaker 1: weed and shit caught on a member or the lady 2138 01:58:49,200 --> 01:58:51,080 Speaker 1: got caught with some shit and they had a name 2139 01:58:51,160 --> 01:58:55,400 Speaker 1: in there was gonna name caught bringing something into the jail. 2140 01:58:55,880 --> 01:58:59,760 Speaker 1: If all this is the case, how does that just 2141 01:58:59,880 --> 01:59:04,120 Speaker 1: go away? Now? It's because those things probably would never true. 2142 01:59:04,200 --> 01:59:07,840 Speaker 1: That was just used as tactics. And ask yourself as Gunner, right, 2143 01:59:08,000 --> 01:59:11,280 Speaker 1: And when I talk to this people, it's like, damn, 2144 01:59:11,400 --> 01:59:14,120 Speaker 1: that makes sense. It's like Gunna was coming off the 2145 01:59:14,280 --> 01:59:17,000 Speaker 1: number one album. I think he had just outsold Bad 2146 01:59:17,120 --> 01:59:19,200 Speaker 1: Bunny or something. He had just outsold one of the 2147 01:59:19,240 --> 01:59:21,880 Speaker 1: biggest artists that we because Summon had the number one 2148 01:59:21,960 --> 01:59:25,080 Speaker 1: album with the pushing piece shit. He had just had 2149 01:59:25,200 --> 01:59:28,200 Speaker 1: that roll and the boom. He get caught up in 2150 01:59:28,360 --> 01:59:31,200 Speaker 1: this understand they won't give him a bond. They keep 2151 01:59:31,240 --> 01:59:34,160 Speaker 1: fighting bond, try bond, bond, bond, try to get bonn 2152 01:59:34,280 --> 01:59:37,720 Speaker 1: can we get a bond bond? They won't give nobody 2153 01:59:37,880 --> 01:59:41,120 Speaker 1: no bond. December come and they roll around with these 2154 01:59:41,520 --> 01:59:45,560 Speaker 1: plea agreements. And you know, I'm gonna watch this play out. 2155 01:59:46,360 --> 01:59:48,440 Speaker 1: You know, I'm from the concrete, so I know what 2156 01:59:48,560 --> 01:59:50,320 Speaker 1: it looked like, what it sounds like, and what it's 2157 01:59:50,320 --> 01:59:55,640 Speaker 1: supposed to be as well as all of us. We 2158 01:59:55,760 --> 01:59:58,240 Speaker 1: all know what it is, you know what I'm saying. 2159 01:59:58,360 --> 02:00:01,880 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna watch this play out hard for Slime 2160 02:00:02,080 --> 02:00:04,840 Speaker 1: or this is what probably makes it uncomfortable for him. 2161 02:00:04,880 --> 02:00:07,880 Speaker 1: It's like, Yo, I'm still fighting and we don't even 2162 02:00:07,920 --> 02:00:10,160 Speaker 1: really know what they got at this point. They might 2163 02:00:10,240 --> 02:00:13,440 Speaker 1: not even have enough. We ain't even comb through this shit. 2164 02:00:13,560 --> 02:00:16,720 Speaker 1: You're fucking with big boys when you charge us with 2165 02:00:16,840 --> 02:00:19,440 Speaker 1: something from the state level and the fiends don't pick 2166 02:00:19,520 --> 02:00:22,160 Speaker 1: it up. Man, We've been a comb through all this shit, 2167 02:00:22,800 --> 02:00:31,839 Speaker 1: every single allegation, every single charge, every single fucking witness comment, 2168 02:00:32,040 --> 02:00:34,600 Speaker 1: everything that y'all said. We're gonna comb through it and 2169 02:00:34,720 --> 02:00:37,560 Speaker 1: make sure it was done completely right, and then we'll 2170 02:00:37,680 --> 02:00:41,360 Speaker 1: look at it and look at taking please. Then I 2171 02:00:41,520 --> 02:00:44,720 Speaker 1: think that's what Slime is probably on because it's like, 2172 02:00:46,120 --> 02:00:48,440 Speaker 1: but they said she's get she's they said that she's 2173 02:00:48,480 --> 02:00:51,320 Speaker 1: offered him a deal. They said she's offered Slim a deal, 2174 02:00:52,000 --> 02:00:54,520 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And the deal was just 2175 02:00:54,680 --> 02:00:58,520 Speaker 1: something that why would you take that? You know? So again, 2176 02:00:58,800 --> 02:01:02,360 Speaker 1: it's an interesting place that he's in. Bro, Let's look 2177 02:01:02,400 --> 02:01:04,440 Speaker 1: at this lawyer try to fight some things. I want 2178 02:01:04,440 --> 02:01:06,400 Speaker 1: to be clear on what's happening. And what we're about 2179 02:01:06,400 --> 02:01:08,720 Speaker 1: to look at. Young thug is back in court shortly 2180 02:01:08,840 --> 02:01:12,320 Speaker 1: after Gunner was led out on his plea agreement, along 2181 02:01:12,440 --> 02:01:15,160 Speaker 1: with I think four or five other wise Seal members 2182 02:01:15,560 --> 02:01:20,000 Speaker 1: that was a part of this rico charge. Something happened 2183 02:01:20,000 --> 02:01:24,120 Speaker 1: I think in two and eighteen or sixteen, I believe 2184 02:01:24,200 --> 02:01:25,920 Speaker 1: one of these years. I'm sorry I don't have the 2185 02:01:26,000 --> 02:01:30,600 Speaker 1: correct year, but something took place in which Fulton County 2186 02:01:30,680 --> 02:01:33,920 Speaker 1: Police was asked to go arrest young thug. They went 2187 02:01:33,960 --> 02:01:36,720 Speaker 1: over to the house, ended up going in the house, 2188 02:01:36,800 --> 02:01:40,000 Speaker 1: saw marijuana, guns, all kind of shit, charged him with that, 2189 02:01:40,280 --> 02:01:44,360 Speaker 1: confiscated all of that stuff, along with cell phones. Those 2190 02:01:44,480 --> 02:01:48,080 Speaker 1: cell phones they took, they sent off to get them 2191 02:01:48,320 --> 02:01:51,440 Speaker 1: forensically wiped. It took a couple of years for them 2192 02:01:51,480 --> 02:01:53,920 Speaker 1: to get the technology to even be able to wipe them, 2193 02:01:54,000 --> 02:01:58,160 Speaker 1: so they held all of that stuff all of that time. 2194 02:01:58,920 --> 02:02:01,880 Speaker 1: They end up getting information off those cell phones that 2195 02:02:02,000 --> 02:02:04,560 Speaker 1: they're using in this reco charge. I think some of 2196 02:02:04,640 --> 02:02:07,800 Speaker 1: it has to do with thugs sending shots or making 2197 02:02:07,920 --> 02:02:11,280 Speaker 1: calls or you know, some things. I'm not sure if 2198 02:02:11,360 --> 02:02:15,840 Speaker 1: all of the evidence that derived from this cell phone, 2199 02:02:15,920 --> 02:02:18,320 Speaker 1: but I'm sure that there is a lot of evidence 2200 02:02:19,000 --> 02:02:23,400 Speaker 1: that came from this interaction with Thug and the police. 2201 02:02:24,160 --> 02:02:26,960 Speaker 1: Now there was some confusion as to why they even 2202 02:02:27,040 --> 02:02:30,040 Speaker 1: went in there and got that young thugs lawyer ended 2203 02:02:30,080 --> 02:02:32,440 Speaker 1: up getting that throughout they had no reason to be 2204 02:02:32,560 --> 02:02:35,120 Speaker 1: in that house and they had no search one. He 2205 02:02:35,280 --> 02:02:39,080 Speaker 1: ended up getting that evidence suppressed and they were ordered, 2206 02:02:39,520 --> 02:02:44,040 Speaker 1: according to the law to return those cell phones. They 2207 02:02:44,160 --> 02:02:47,240 Speaker 1: just kept the cell phones, and they kept the cell 2208 02:02:47,360 --> 02:02:50,440 Speaker 1: phones because they was using that information to be a 2209 02:02:50,560 --> 02:02:54,200 Speaker 1: part of the Rico charge. So now here we are 2210 02:02:54,320 --> 02:02:58,040 Speaker 1: in this reco charge with this information from this old 2211 02:02:58,200 --> 02:03:01,360 Speaker 1: case being used, and this is where we are now 2212 02:03:01,440 --> 02:03:03,920 Speaker 1: with this conversation. Let's listen to a little bit. It 2213 02:03:04,280 --> 02:03:10,240 Speaker 1: has no expectation of privacy in what Missus grand jury is. 2214 02:03:11,240 --> 02:03:16,160 Speaker 1: This is not an indictment under consideration. We're just here too. 2215 02:03:16,440 --> 02:03:21,160 Speaker 1: We are just here to hear Missus Morton testify that's 2216 02:03:21,240 --> 02:03:25,920 Speaker 1: not valid. So I'd like to ask Missus Sprinkle what 2217 02:03:26,200 --> 02:03:28,920 Speaker 1: rank he had to use the grand jury as a 2218 02:03:29,040 --> 02:03:32,680 Speaker 1: district attorney's an investigative tool. Those are my five pitship 2219 02:03:32,760 --> 02:03:35,720 Speaker 1: by the ship search warm which I mean the search 2220 02:03:35,800 --> 02:03:39,680 Speaker 1: of the devices which Slady we rule. Why did that happen? 2221 02:03:40,280 --> 02:03:46,880 Speaker 1: Why did the subpoenas coming out a clerk? Third one 2222 02:03:46,960 --> 02:03:49,480 Speaker 1: is why would the spoons go outside of the state 2223 02:03:49,520 --> 02:03:53,600 Speaker 1: of Georgia. The fourth one is why when did you 2224 02:03:53,760 --> 02:03:56,720 Speaker 1: return the property? And the fifth form is why would 2225 02:03:56,760 --> 02:04:01,160 Speaker 1: you bring a human being before rand jury when you 2226 02:04:01,280 --> 02:04:04,040 Speaker 1: don't have it for a real build indictment and you 2227 02:04:04,240 --> 02:04:07,040 Speaker 1: tell the grand jury that this is not a build 2228 02:04:07,040 --> 02:04:10,120 Speaker 1: indictment under consideration? What right in district of your hand? 2229 02:04:10,400 --> 02:04:16,480 Speaker 1: And that's why I pe you're honor the defendant UM 2230 02:04:16,720 --> 02:04:22,080 Speaker 1: still has not addressed the issue of standing as any 2231 02:04:22,160 --> 02:04:26,800 Speaker 1: of the indicted. No, no, your honor them. The high 2232 02:04:26,840 --> 02:04:31,440 Speaker 1: doubt that he is complaining of, he has to have 2233 02:04:31,800 --> 02:04:37,640 Speaker 1: been agreed, he has to have UM and a A 2234 02:04:38,040 --> 02:04:44,320 Speaker 1: an expectation UM as it relates to that kinduct more 2235 02:04:44,360 --> 02:04:47,800 Speaker 1: than the tests. I think that's a jactine and testing. 2236 02:04:47,840 --> 02:04:51,360 Speaker 1: He's also saying he's a he's a great person consunder indictment, 2237 02:04:51,440 --> 02:04:54,880 Speaker 1: in charge, you know, and in your honor if I 2238 02:04:55,520 --> 02:05:01,680 Speaker 1: may UM. I don't know why mister Steele cited Lampfull 2239 02:05:01,800 --> 02:05:08,200 Speaker 1: in his brief because it actually supports the state's position 2240 02:05:08,280 --> 02:05:12,560 Speaker 1: in this case. In Lampful of special purpose grand Jury 2241 02:05:12,840 --> 02:05:16,440 Speaker 1: Investigator of defendant and subpoena that defendant. In this case, 2242 02:05:16,520 --> 02:05:20,760 Speaker 1: it isn't even that the defendant was subpoena to testify. 2243 02:05:20,920 --> 02:05:23,960 Speaker 1: He is talking about a person who didn't even yield 2244 02:05:24,000 --> 02:05:29,080 Speaker 1: information that was used against him. He is asserting that 2245 02:05:29,280 --> 02:05:33,480 Speaker 1: actions that he has no right to complain of should 2246 02:05:33,520 --> 02:05:40,240 Speaker 1: be somehow used as a basis or dismissing a lawful 2247 02:05:40,360 --> 02:05:45,800 Speaker 1: indictment against this defendant. So he is, i guess, attempting 2248 02:05:45,880 --> 02:05:53,680 Speaker 1: to leverage the court's ruling previously into something that simply 2249 02:05:53,800 --> 02:05:56,560 Speaker 1: doesn't exist. He does not have a right to complain 2250 02:05:57,280 --> 02:06:02,680 Speaker 1: of the actions he iss were unlawful or improper. He 2251 02:06:03,080 --> 02:06:08,000 Speaker 1: simply doesn't, and he hasn't addressed his being indicted on 2252 02:06:08,320 --> 02:06:13,000 Speaker 1: alone does not give him standing to argue or to 2253 02:06:13,160 --> 02:06:17,800 Speaker 1: complain about the fact that missus morton was taken before 2254 02:06:17,880 --> 02:06:21,280 Speaker 1: a grand jury, or that a subpoena was sent to 2255 02:06:22,560 --> 02:06:26,760 Speaker 1: a corporation or a company or entity. Um that the 2256 02:06:26,840 --> 02:06:32,360 Speaker 1: defendant has no expectation of privacy and he simply doesn't 2257 02:06:32,440 --> 02:06:36,760 Speaker 1: get past that initial threshold. And by continuing to fold 2258 02:06:37,440 --> 02:06:42,120 Speaker 1: one argument into the other, he attempts to subvert what 2259 02:06:42,560 --> 02:06:48,839 Speaker 1: the courts um they're being indicted doesn't afford them standing 2260 02:06:49,040 --> 02:06:56,880 Speaker 1: to argue about matters that what she's saying is he's finissing. 2261 02:06:57,080 --> 02:06:59,560 Speaker 1: She's saying that boy, he taking one thing, tying it 2262 02:06:59,640 --> 02:07:03,480 Speaker 1: into none, just to confuse you and use what y'all say. Man, 2263 02:07:03,560 --> 02:07:06,120 Speaker 1: he get he trickery. He pulled the trickery up there. 2264 02:07:06,200 --> 02:07:08,840 Speaker 1: That's what she's basically seeing in Lames's time. But the 2265 02:07:08,960 --> 02:07:13,840 Speaker 1: documents were requested day. They could literally email them to us, 2266 02:07:14,440 --> 02:07:17,760 Speaker 1: as some of them will do. But the only entity 2267 02:07:17,960 --> 02:07:20,919 Speaker 1: and the only people that have a right to complain 2268 02:07:21,000 --> 02:07:24,280 Speaker 1: about that, and right now he's skipping over the fact 2269 02:07:24,320 --> 02:07:26,800 Speaker 1: that he has no right. He's asking you to jump 2270 02:07:26,920 --> 02:07:29,640 Speaker 1: right to let's just get into the substance of the argument. 2271 02:07:29,800 --> 02:07:31,920 Speaker 1: And that is not the way that the law works. 2272 02:07:32,000 --> 02:07:34,080 Speaker 1: Mister Still is well aware of that. He is a 2273 02:07:34,240 --> 02:07:39,320 Speaker 1: very seasonal attorney, and he is attempting to escape that 2274 02:07:39,560 --> 02:07:43,080 Speaker 1: fact by just pushing forward and conflating all the arguments 2275 02:07:43,120 --> 02:07:46,720 Speaker 1: and making sure that they collapse into one mudhot But Rhner, 2276 02:07:47,280 --> 02:07:52,480 Speaker 1: I believe, and I ask that a court address that 2277 02:07:52,760 --> 02:07:58,400 Speaker 1: threshold matter before we get into anything else. And secifically, 2278 02:07:59,160 --> 02:08:01,560 Speaker 1: what it sounds like to me is that she doesn't 2279 02:08:01,640 --> 02:08:08,520 Speaker 1: believe if he entertains him outside of establishing that. So 2280 02:08:08,640 --> 02:08:12,240 Speaker 1: basically to say, he doesn't have the right to argue 2281 02:08:12,280 --> 02:08:15,320 Speaker 1: it because I can't argue it with him, So I 2282 02:08:15,440 --> 02:08:17,960 Speaker 1: need to stop him from being able to argue it, 2283 02:08:18,240 --> 02:08:21,800 Speaker 1: is what she's trying to do. Babe. We saw Jeffrey Williams, 2284 02:08:21,840 --> 02:08:24,520 Speaker 1: also known as Young Thug, appear before a judge for 2285 02:08:24,600 --> 02:08:26,800 Speaker 1: the very first time. A new for you at noon. 2286 02:08:26,880 --> 02:08:29,520 Speaker 1: Atlanta rapper Young Thug is back in court for the 2287 02:08:29,640 --> 02:08:32,200 Speaker 1: RICO case against him. Now, this all comes less than 2288 02:08:32,280 --> 02:08:35,560 Speaker 1: twenty four hours after Gunna enter the plea deal for 2289 02:08:35,800 --> 02:08:38,520 Speaker 1: his release from jail. Young Thug and Gunna are two 2290 02:08:38,600 --> 02:08:42,040 Speaker 1: of twenty eight defendants charged in this RICO case, all 2291 02:08:42,160 --> 02:08:45,040 Speaker 1: twenty eight members of the Young Slime Life record label, 2292 02:08:45,120 --> 02:08:49,360 Speaker 1: which prosecutors are accusing of having connection to street gang activity. 2293 02:08:49,800 --> 02:08:52,960 Speaker 1: Motion hearings for Young Thug and other YSL members happening 2294 02:08:53,160 --> 02:08:55,480 Speaker 1: right now. Our team is there. We will be sure 2295 02:08:55,480 --> 02:08:58,040 Speaker 1: to bring the very latest online and here on Aaron, 2296 02:08:58,920 --> 02:09:00,840 Speaker 1: Here is a look at the moments at Lanta born 2297 02:09:00,920 --> 02:09:03,640 Speaker 1: rapper Gunna walked out of the Fulton County jail late 2298 02:09:03,720 --> 02:09:06,960 Speaker 1: yesterday afternoon. The rapper, whose real name is Sergio Kitchens 2299 02:09:07,360 --> 02:09:10,400 Speaker 1: made a deal with prosecutors to make this all happen. Now, 2300 02:09:10,520 --> 02:09:13,240 Speaker 1: Gunna will not have to stand trial early next year 2301 02:09:13,600 --> 02:09:16,320 Speaker 1: with Rapper, Young Thug and the more than two dozen 2302 02:09:16,400 --> 02:09:19,560 Speaker 1: other defendants who prosecutors say we're part of a racketeer 2303 02:09:19,640 --> 02:09:23,360 Speaker 1: and conspiracy. And despite Gunner releasing a statement saying otherwise, 2304 02:09:23,680 --> 02:09:26,959 Speaker 1: documents from his plea deal show if call to testify 2305 02:09:27,080 --> 02:09:29,960 Speaker 1: when his co defendants had to trial, the rapper would 2306 02:09:30,000 --> 02:09:32,080 Speaker 1: have to take the stand. John Cherick on that part 2307 02:09:32,120 --> 02:09:35,000 Speaker 1: of the story. For us, it may make everything look different, 2308 02:09:35,360 --> 02:09:38,800 Speaker 1: and that's why in thug Man, he might be saying, Yo, 2309 02:09:38,920 --> 02:09:41,600 Speaker 1: y'all took please too early. We don't even really know 2310 02:09:41,760 --> 02:09:44,920 Speaker 1: what's up, Like we gotta really see what's up before 2311 02:09:44,960 --> 02:09:48,280 Speaker 1: we take a plea. You know what I'm saying. We 2312 02:09:48,480 --> 02:09:51,320 Speaker 1: know the folk be wolfing. They gotta mean polka face, 2313 02:09:53,080 --> 02:09:56,400 Speaker 1: but they playing unfair because they saying, ain't nobody getting 2314 02:09:56,440 --> 02:10:00,960 Speaker 1: no bond or none, so they squeeze in niggas. And 2315 02:10:01,120 --> 02:10:04,440 Speaker 1: then I'm hearing the Da herself is coming to Nigga Celle, 2316 02:10:06,000 --> 02:10:10,080 Speaker 1: so she's playing a different kind of game. You know 2317 02:10:10,120 --> 02:10:11,800 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, We're gonna look into some more this 2318 02:10:12,000 --> 02:10:14,160 Speaker 1: next week. I got a lot to do, man, so 2319 02:10:14,240 --> 02:10:17,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna clock out on y'all right now. But another 2320 02:10:17,280 --> 02:10:20,440 Speaker 1: episode of the best fastest growing podcasts in the world. 2321 02:10:20,880 --> 02:10:24,000 Speaker 1: It's up there podcast, you know, the Vibes Kid