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Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show, we talked Pro Bowl

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Speaker 1: five Cardinals are playing in the game. Also the topic

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Speaker 1: believe must be addressed in the offseason. But first putting

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady's career and proper perspective, It's Cardinals Cover two,

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Speaker 1: Episode five thirty three and it starts now. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two with Craig Griolu and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals

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Speaker 1: That's the word that comes to mind with talking about

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady. His seven Super Bowls are more than any franchise.

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Speaker 1: Think about that for a moment, MJ seven, one more

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Speaker 1: than the Steelers, one more than the Patriots. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's put it in perspective. That's you know how many

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Speaker 1: NBA championships the Boston Celtics have won, or the New

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Speaker 1: York Yankees winning World Series title after World Series title,

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Speaker 1: and one individual would have more than those particular teams

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Speaker 1: unheard of. I don't think it's ever going to be

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Speaker 1: a beaten And he played in ten Cera Bowls, so

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Speaker 1: you're talking about in you know, people will say he's

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Speaker 1: the best quarterback ever. He may be the best football player,

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Speaker 1: and I know that when you look at his combined picture.

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Speaker 1: He's his tall, skinny kid. He goes into the sixth round,

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Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety ninth overall and then the rest,

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Speaker 1: you know, obviously getting a chance to play when Bledsoe

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Speaker 1: went down. But yeah, I mean I really enjoyed watching

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Speaker 1: him play. And you talk about a guy that studied

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Speaker 1: the game, worked hard, watch a ton of film, and

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Speaker 1: he went through some injuries. I mean obviously the year

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Speaker 1: that Matt Castle played for him, you know, he tore

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Speaker 1: his acl and Castle went eleven and five, and Castle

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Speaker 1: said he would call him before every game, he would

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Speaker 1: call him after every game and just say, hey, these

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Speaker 1: are things you can work on. So what a great teammate.

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Speaker 1: And he made guys around him better. He you know,

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Speaker 1: you look at Julian at him and whether he's a

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Speaker 1: Wells Welker. You look at when Randy Moss was there

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Speaker 1: and he threw for forty nine fifty touchdowns and Moss

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Speaker 1: lineman and they really had a really good defense where

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Speaker 1: he didn't have to put up thirty five forty points

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Speaker 1: a game, but he was capable of doing that. Not

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Speaker 1: only uplifted his teammates, but the assistant coaches getting head

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Speaker 1: coaching jobs after either being an offensive or defensive coordinator,

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Speaker 1: and whether they were successful after leaving New England's a

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Speaker 1: different story, but getting guys paid teammates and assistant coaches

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Speaker 1: getting promoted to be the guy at another team. Most recent,

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Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels just took to Las Vegas Raiders job. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Charlie Weiss propelled it to get a job at Notre Dame.

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Speaker 1: You know, you look at Romeo Cornell, He's never getting

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Speaker 1: You know, they look at Brian Flores right now. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's fascinating. I mean for a guy to play

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Speaker 1: twenty two years and really it's twenty full seasons because

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Speaker 1: one game in two thousand and eight when he tore

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Speaker 1: his ACL. So twenty full seasons as a starting quarterback,

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Speaker 1: and you mentioned ten super Bowls. Half of his playing

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Speaker 1: That's that's every other season playing in the Super Bowl. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean no disrespect there. There are NFL franchise that

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Speaker 1: more than any other franchise that you could say, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, he's trailing two or three different franchise. Football

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Speaker 1: back to you know, his early years, they called them

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Speaker 1: was his underdog years two thousand to two thousand and six.

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Speaker 1: phases of his career, and each phase you could argue

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Speaker 1: every single year Tom Brady made the playoffs. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: it helped to have good teammates around him, but didn't

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Speaker 1: even with the running backs, he elevated their game. And

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Speaker 1: that's what we want to see out of Kyler Murray

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Speaker 1: as we bring it closer to home here on Cardinals

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Speaker 1: It is very, very difficult to win, and I think

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Speaker 1: we're seeing that because now you're looking back at the

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Speaker 1: Wilson won his in twenty thirteen, Rogers in twenty ten.

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Speaker 1: That's less than ten. And we're talking about, Hey, you

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Speaker 1: I'm not faulting fan bases, bird gang, whatever. That should

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Speaker 1: So hopefully the entire team, not just Kyler Murray, not

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Speaker 1: little conservative. All then you choose Mike Dreky says, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna put the ball at the thirty five and we're

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Speaker 1: going towards the north end zone, so you've got to

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Speaker 1: go sixty five yards? All right? Well, maybe I then

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Speaker 1: say I'm gonna play defense, or I might say, you

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Speaker 1: know what, I will take the ball at thirty five.

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Speaker 1: It but if you're gonna go I'm gonna choose the

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Speaker 1: ball at the ten and I'm gonna go to the

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Speaker 1: south end zone and nine just need ten yards for

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Speaker 1: a score. Well, obviously, I'm gonna say, well, I want

436
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Speaker 1: the football, so there is and where you spot it.

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be somewhere between the forties. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's just time putting out the ball in a ten

439
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Speaker 1: yard lane, yes, because then you say, are I gonna

440
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Speaker 1: put it the ten? But then you can tell me

441
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Speaker 1: you gotta go ninety yards now. Then I say, okay,

442
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 1: that's fine, I'm gonna play defense and it's your ball

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Speaker 1: first and ten at the ten yard line. So that

444
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 1: that's the little bit of a strategy here. But I

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Speaker 1: bet you I think, for from a fairness standpoint, and

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Speaker 1: again I don't have all the rules, I think from

447
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 1: the forty to forty would be fair for everyone involved

448
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 1: because you know, again, if you don't get a first down,

449
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden you gotta make a decision.

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Speaker 1: You're probably not going to see many punts. I can't

451
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Speaker 1: think teams would go for it on four town. Yeah,

452
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Speaker 1: And I wonder if it's just becomes that spot and

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Speaker 1: choose that if we do see it a lot, whether

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Speaker 1: it's in the Pro Bowl or in preseason, the teams

455
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Speaker 1: just say, you know what spot at the fifty because

456
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Speaker 1: now it doesn't matter and it's that's good. You cut

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Speaker 1: the field in half and it's fifty yards one way

458
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Speaker 1: or the other. Speaking of overtime, now, the Chiefs won

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Speaker 1: the toin toss again, right, yes you did. Now you

460
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 1: know what I always say, you got to play defense.

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Speaker 1: If they would have scored that touchdown, the rule would

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Speaker 1: have been, they would have changed the rule in a heartbeat.

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Speaker 1: Even Andy Reid after the your game against Buffalo said

464
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Speaker 1: I'm open to it. Yeah, again, you got to play defense.

465
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: And he threw that pick and the next thing you know,

466
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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow and that offense was able to get in

467
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Speaker 1: field goal range and they won the game. I like

468
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Speaker 1: just playing the ten minute period. And I've heard discussion like, okay, well,

469
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Speaker 1: you don't play over time in the regular season, just

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Speaker 1: have a tie game. But in the playoffs you need

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Speaker 1: a winner. Yes, so then you play a full ten minutes,

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Speaker 1: and then after that you play another full ten minutes

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Speaker 1: if needed to. So even if I score a touchdown,

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Speaker 1: still play the ten minutes. Yeah, keep going because that

475
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Speaker 1: gives both teams an opportunity, and that one's gonna go

476
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Speaker 1: on a ten minute drive, right, I mean if you do,

477
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Speaker 1: great props too. You win your advance because if if

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Speaker 1: you're if you were the Chiefs and you scored a

479
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Speaker 1: field goal on that drive instead of the pick, Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: would have had to score a touchdown. Yes, otherwise we're

481
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Speaker 1: that would to me, when you get to the playoffs,

482
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Speaker 1: it's sudden death unless somebody wins after the ten minute period.

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Speaker 1: I'm fine with how it is, but if they want

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Speaker 1: to alternate, alter it a little bit, then I would

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Speaker 1: go just play the entire ten minutes or fifteen minutes

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Speaker 1: or whatever it is, and the on side. The only

487
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: thing there, Craig, these guys don't want to play fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 1: I know. I mean, I mean, you have to have

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Speaker 1: a winner. No seventy minutes. Yeah, yeah, I know, but

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Speaker 1: I'm saying it. You know how difficult it is to

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Speaker 1: play sixteen minutes. You see injuries and I don't know. Basically,

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Speaker 1: there's no easy solution. No there's not. But I just

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Speaker 1: I to me, you gotta play defense in football. Um

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Speaker 1: so I if you score a touchdown, so be it.

495
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: They couldn't stop you. But I don't think players want

496
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Speaker 1: to play seventy minutes if they have to in any game.

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Speaker 1: And then on the alternative to the on side kick

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Speaker 1: after a made field goal or pat the scoring team

499
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Speaker 1: has a choice. You either put the ball at the

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00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: other team's twenty five yard line and it's their ball

501
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 1: first and ten and you just go again. You're eliminating

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Speaker 1: the kickoff, or maybe I want to go up two

503
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Speaker 1: scores or I'm down two scores, so I say, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep the ball. It's gonna fourth and fifteen

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Speaker 1: of my own forty five yard lines, so I need

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Speaker 1: fifteen yards to advance. Otherwise it's turnover on downs and

507
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: Mike Drecky playing good defense gets the football. I kind

508
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: of like the alternative to the onside kick me too.

509
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Speaker 1: And that's something I think, you know, possibly could be

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Speaker 1: in the future, just based on the percentages of when

511
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Speaker 1: it comes to insite kicks. So we'll see what the

512
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Speaker 1: strategy is and maybe we do get a little bit

513
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Speaker 1: of a inkling on what a Mike Rabel decides to do.

514
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: You a little bit more conservative or Matt Lafleura, is

515
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Speaker 1: he a little bit more aggressive on some of this stuff.

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Speaker 1: I hope that we do see some of this because

517
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Speaker 1: you need as much information as possible, and I like

518
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Speaker 1: your suggestion you do some of this stuff in the

519
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 1: preseason to gather information how's it going to work? Because

520
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: you can write something down on paper, but how's it

521
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: going to be executed? And then maybe you need to

522
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 1: tweak it because something comes up. And then all of

523
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Speaker 1: you weren't thinking about that, and you're like, well, let's

524
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Speaker 1: hold off, and you don't want to do it in

525
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Speaker 1: the regular season, but again doing it in preseason play

526
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Speaker 1: exhibition games, I'm fine with that. Well, and to me,

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Speaker 1: you can't ask these guys that really play one hundred

528
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Speaker 1: percent in a preseas a Pro Bowl. It's usually tagged

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Speaker 1: football out there. You get to the fourth quarter and

530
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: over some money's on the line. You know where each

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Speaker 1: team gets more than the other. But I think a

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Speaker 1: true evaluation, even if it's one or two games, just

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Speaker 1: see because you got you know, everyone has three preseason games.

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00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: The Cardinals will have only one home preseason game, correct,

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00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 1: correct because they had two last year, so that I

536
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 1: think they want to hold that canceled midflight to New Orleans.

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00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think a better evaluation would be a

538
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: preseason game. Now we're talking about a lot of young

539
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: players playing, but at the same time, I think you

540
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: could have a small sample for more of an evaluation

541
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Speaker 1: than in a Pro Bowl game. Cardinals Cover two presented

542
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: by Hunday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. We wish

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Speaker 1: all five of those Cardinal players good luck coming up

544
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: on Sunday and the Pro Bowl, and with respects to DJ,

545
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: Humphreys certainly well deserved becoming that fifth Hardinal's player invited

546
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: amongst the best in the NFC, which kind of leads

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Speaker 1: us to our next discussion here, and that is looking

548
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: at Humphreys' position group and the offensive line as a whole.

549
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: We got a month, in fact, less than a month

550
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: before the scouting combine and then free agency right around

551
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: the corner. I'll say this, when you make the playoffs

552
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Speaker 1: and extend the regular season by a week and you're

553
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Speaker 1: playing seventeen games and it's an eighteen week regulars, all

554
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Speaker 1: of a sudden, this offseason, this little quote unquote dead period,

555
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: if you will, MJ. It's like evaporated. I mean, scouting combine,

556
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Speaker 1: free agency, draft schedule, release, OTA's Minicamp, and then before

557
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: you know it, regular season begins. I've always said, whoever

558
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: made that NFL calendar, you need a race. And I

559
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: talked to somebody in the building essay, and they told

560
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: me they're dialed in right now, whether it's grading free

561
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: agents or getting ready for the draft, because their scouts

562
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: had the opportunit unity to go scout these players. Sometimes

563
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: there was only limited scouts because of COVID. A lot

564
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: of times they were doing zoom with position coaches. And

565
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: these scouts have known these players for two or three years.

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Speaker 1: But I was told right now from the franchise standpoint,

567
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: they are dialed in when it comes to the off season.

568
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: They know they got to get better offensive line right now.

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Speaker 1: As we speak here first week of February, twelve players

570
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Speaker 1: under contracts, and I'm including the three players that were

571
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: signed to future deals Danny A. Zadora, co To Martin

572
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: and Eric Smith. There is one unrestricted free agents, and

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00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: then as Max Garcia if the Cardinals choose to bring

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Speaker 1: him back for depth purposes. I'm all four started eleven games,

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Speaker 1: seven at right guard, four at center, played in fifteen

576
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: great but it's that right guard position because Humphries is back,

577
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Speaker 1: Pugh is back, Hudson is back, and beat him all

578
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Speaker 1: under contract for next season. Hudson's the only one of

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Speaker 1: those four, though under contract through twenty twenty three, So

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Speaker 1: there are some decisions that potentially could be made, not

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Speaker 1: so much in my opinion, in free agency, but perhaps

582
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Speaker 1: the draft when you're looking at tackle, guard and even

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Speaker 1: the center position. Though first round draft pick on a center,

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Speaker 1: unless you think that's a ten twelve year center, you

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00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: want that first round pick in twenty twenty two to

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00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: contribute right away. Yeah, I think when it comes to

587
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: Max Garcia, again I give him a ton of credit

588
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: because he really never played center. And obviously there was

589
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: some low snaps, just like it was for Harlowe and

590
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: Hudson had a few, but it wasn't as bad. He

591
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,239
Speaker 1: provides great depth, but I don't I don't think he's won.

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00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: When I always say Coogs is gonna Sean Coogler is

593
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: gonna play the best five guys, I think out of

594
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: necessity because the lack of development or progress in Josh Jones,

595
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: they were forced to go that route. And again, he's

596
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Speaker 1: got experience, but I look him as more of a backup.

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Speaker 1: I would try to bring him back on a one

598
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: year minimum deal, and then you got to figure out

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Speaker 1: what you have with Josh Jones and Justin Murray and

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Speaker 1: and I do think interior lineman is going to be

601
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Speaker 1: a need for this team in the draft and possibly

602
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Speaker 1: in free agency. Josh Jones is an interesting name to

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00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: look at because at six seven three ten, is he

604
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: a guard or is he a tackle? He played nine

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Speaker 1: games at right guard, started nine games at right guard,

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Speaker 1: three at right tackle. Where do you slot him? Because,

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00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: as Kingsbury mentioned in his end of season press conference quote,

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Speaker 1: we need him next year to really step up. Talking

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Speaker 1: about Josh Jones, well, the good news is you have

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Speaker 1: Kelvin Beecham, and he's a veteran guy and doesn't seething.

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00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: Think he makes him out a lot of mental aires.

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Speaker 1: And I didn't know this. I always thought when you

613
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Speaker 1: played guard, he can hide a guy. But according to

614
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: Kyle Vandenbach, he said, things come at you a lot quicker.

615
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: We're on the edge. You can actually get back in

616
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: your stance and it takes a second or two for

617
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: the defender to actually touch you. Here instant impact. So

618
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: you know, we know he started forty games at Houston

619
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Speaker 1: at left tackle. But I gotta think he's got to

620
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: be your I think Murray Murray doesn't start, he could

621
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Speaker 1: be your swing guy. Murray can play four different positions.

622
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: But I do think interior lineman just to protect the future.

623
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Speaker 1: Whether Justin Hughes numbers high, where's the scenario there obviously

624
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: Routs and Hudson hopefully the Cardinals. I mean, I think

625
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: centers can play to our thirty five in my opinion,

626
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: as long as he takes care of his body and

627
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: he can always read up with him. Just wait to

628
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: play it out. But yeah, it's going to be a

629
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Speaker 1: big offseason for Josh Jones, Josh Miles, and Justin Murray

630
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: because there's three guys and you gotta hope one or

631
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: two pan out. Josh Jones again, he played in every game,

632
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: started twelve of them. The knock on Josh Jones. He

633
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: was the most penalized player on the team. Ten accepted penalties,

634
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: including five fall start calls three and one game, and

635
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: that is never a good sign. At six three ten, Yeah,

636
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: you're gonna stand out, but you don't want to stand

637
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: out because you're committing penalty. So if he is not

638
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: the guy, does he beat out at Kelvin Beacham and

639
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, beach him though he's under contract,

640
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: becomes the odd man out and you're going younger. But

641
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: he is a better option. And talking about Josh Jones

642
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: or is he your right guard or is it Justin

643
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 1: Murray who started one game Week three and then hurt

644
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 1: his back landed on ir designated return stuff for a

645
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: setback and in fact underwent back surgery. Should be okay

646
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: later this month. That right guard position. Keep pointing to

647
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: that because that is the big question mark with this

648
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 1: team moving forward. I can go to camp with open competition,

649
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 1: best man win, whether it's Justin Murray, Josh Jones, or

650
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: somebody they add. Last year he went out and got

651
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: Brian winters Sky, where sixty starts in his career, he

652
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:56,280
Speaker 1: decided he didn't want to play football anymore. So honestly

653
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: they probably missed him. Just what was going not a

654
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: right guard all of a sudden, Max garcias your starter,

655
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: which again he does have experience, but we don't. We

656
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: didn't really focus on that because we thought there can

657
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: go too deep. That means you have eight to ten

658
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 1: linemen to complain anytime. And then the whole Malcolm Butler

659
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: thing really didn't affect him at least early in this season,

660
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: maybe in the end of the season. But I would

661
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: have open competition and it would be between two and

662
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: three guys. Josh Miles is more of a tackle. Address

663
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 1: that guard position, whether it's left guard or right guarden. Again,

664
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Speaker 1: Justin Pugh, his name has been in the news a

665
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: lot as far as, yeah, he's under contract. He did

666
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: except a pay cut a year ago to remain with

667
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 1: the Cardinals. Does that happen again? Does he get outright released?

668
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: Those are questions that the front office is dealing with

669
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,959
Speaker 1: right now as far as not only twenty twenty two,

670
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: but beyond, as far as how do you set this

671
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: offensive lineup when you have the only one Rodney Hudson

672
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: under contract beyond this coming season. Well, I'll say this.

673
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: I mean we're talking about the right guard and how

674
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 1: important it is, and we witness this here. I don't

675
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: know if you want to be in the market for

676
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 1: two guards. So I got to think Justin Pugh based

677
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 1: on what he's when he's healthy and that left side

678
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: him humped and Hudson in the middle, I mean, you're

679
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 1: talking about filling two big holes there, So I would

680
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: I would just I think the thought process is regardless

681
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: of the cap number. Because he did take a pack

682
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: pay cut, I think that he's in the plans for

683
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 1: the future. Now we don't know when it comes down

684
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: to looking at the salary cap. Can they save money here?

685
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,399
Speaker 1: Can they trust a guy like usin Murray to play

686
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 1: left guard? But I would think that you don't want

687
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: to have two big holes now again and see offseason,

688
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 1: don't play until September. But I would have hoped there's

689
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,760
Speaker 1: not you know, musical chairs there. If there's one position

690
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 1: that it needs to get better, it's right guard. It's

691
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: fascinating that we're having in this conversation about a guard position,

692
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: whether it's left or right, because when do we talk

693
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: about the offensive line, We need a strong left tackle

694
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: protect the quarterbacks blind side. Then it became all right, well,

695
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: don't forget about the right side, because edge rushers moved

696
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: from one side of the field to the other. And

697
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: then over the years, it's like, wow, look at all

698
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: that pressure up the middle and the interior getting pushed back,

699
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, the quarterback has hands and

700
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 1: bodies in his face and he can't see or he's

701
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,720
Speaker 1: getting hit. It's fascinating that now, all of a sudden,

702
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: that entire offensive line. Yeah, maybe left tackle is still

703
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: a little bit more important, But of those five positions.

704
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: You can make an argument that you need someone solid.

705
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: Doesn't have to be an all pro, but someone solid

706
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: at every single position to make up for deficiencies if

707
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: you have it, or an injury or two. Because as

708
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 1: we say out this season that you shape that you

709
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: always talk about it kind of bent in too many

710
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 1: times and Kyler Murray was harassed a lot. Yeah, and

711
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: when you look at that, Yeah, I just when I

712
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: when I look at the offensive line, and anytime you're

713
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: going through nine different lineup changes, you just don't have

714
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: the chemistry. And then you know, and again I give

715
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Speaker 1: Sean Harlow and Max Garcia credit because that was the

716
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 1: next man up, and they're they're you know, they were

717
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 1: undersized and sometimes it looked like they were on roller skates.

718
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, I just think when you you know, when

719
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: you look at a football team and everyone for the

720
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: longest time is when you build a football team quarterback,

721
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: left tackle, pass rusher, in corner. I think we're starting

722
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: to see teams build at the middle now, quarterbacks, center,

723
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: interior defensive line, linebackers, and safeties. Again, that's where the

724
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: games were on the trenches. And I know Steve mentioned

725
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: this um when he went out and got Rodney Hudson

726
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: and they were hoping obviously J. J. Watt would be healthy.

727
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 1: Is that you know it's not automatic anymore. You build

728
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: a roster quarterback, left tackle, pass rushing in corner. Now

729
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: you're just trying to look at teams. Build it up

730
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 1: the middle, because if you can't stop the run or

731
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 1: you're getting gashed and you can't protect a quarterback and

732
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,919
Speaker 1: they're turning it over and you're behind the sticks, that's

733
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: a recipe for disaster. And up the middle, that would

734
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: include either guard as far as to the rights of

735
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: the center or to the left of the center, because

736
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: you want that quarterback comfortable in the pocket. And I

737
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: think at times Kyle the Murray was and then at

738
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:32,240
Speaker 1: other times, specifically against the Rams and Aaron Donald and company,

739
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: there was too much pressure and I don't know if

740
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: if panic is the right word, but instead of sliding

741
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: or sliding the pocket or moving one direction or the other,

742
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: he would backpedal and we would see those mistakes and

743
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 1: that bad habit from twenty nineteen resurface. Well, I thought

744
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: I was started the Packers game. It actually was in

745
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: the Houston game too, Malee Collins, He I mean luckily Cardinals,

746
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: you know, they didn't let him hang around. They were

747
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: down in that game and the end of winning thirty

748
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: one to five, and then obviously both of the nine

749
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: Rams last two games. That when you see Kyler running

750
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: around like that, especially early the game, not a good thing.

751
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: You want that offensive line to be the first line

752
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,919
Speaker 1: and the last line of protection for Kyler Murray. Yeah,

753
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm a big Sean Cooler fan, but

754
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: sometimes generally as good as the players you have on

755
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: the roster. But I thought the Cardinals offensive a line regressed,

756
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 1: just like the entire offense, including the quarterback in the

757
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: second half of the season or after they were tenant two.

758
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: A strong offensive line during the seven and zero tendant

759
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: to start, and then when things when sideways, it was

760
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: everywhere the entire offense because starts at the line of scrimmage.

761
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: If you don't have good protection, good coverage as far

762
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 1: as blocking those guys that are trying to get to

763
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: your ball carriers, then yeah, then all of a sudden

764
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 1: it does affect everything. And maybe it did start at

765
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, and that's why the numbers dipped

766
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: to the degree they did in the second half. Of

767
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: the season. Well, he just didn't have the starting five

768
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: for the entire and that happens with a lot of teams,

769
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 1: and then you go to the backup. You know, the

770
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: fact is that you know Pugh started thirteen and fourteen games,

771
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: Hump basically sixteen and sixteen out of seventeen. You know,

772
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: Rodney Hudson had ribs, he started twelve games, Beach him

773
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 1: started fifteen games, missed two games with a right rib injury.

774
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: Josh Jones started twelve games. So those are those are encouraging,

775
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: but at the end of the year, you'd like to

776
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: have these guys fifteen and sixteen games where you don't

777
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: have to rely on Sean Harlow, Max Garcia or Josh Jones. Yeah,

778
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: nine different oh line combinations, as you mentioned, four last season,

779
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: so there was more continuity a year ago. Yet the

780
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: team this season won more games. But I do think

781
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 1: that speaks to the depth of the offensive line and

782
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,240
Speaker 1: a Sean Harlow and a Josh Jones owns and players

783
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: that are stepping up in the absence of those starters,

784
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: and then the ability to play multiple positions along that

785
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: offensive line. But when you look at guard play, now,

786
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: how do you address guard, whether it's left guard or

787
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: right guard. But I think for the point of this conversation,

788
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: it's right guard because that is the one spot that

789
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: is open right now. Do you look at the draft

790
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,240
Speaker 1: Kenyan Green out of Texas A and m Zion Johnson

791
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: Boston College, Daron Kinnard out of Kentucky. Those are the

792
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: top guard names according to mel kiper Junior and Daniel Jeremiah.

793
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: Or is it in free agency where you can spend

794
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: some money and use that available cap space whatever you

795
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 1: have and address the guard position in free agency and

796
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 1: potentially the draft. But maybe in free agency where you

797
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: go out and get someone a Lake and Tomlinson who

798
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 1: played for the forty nine ers and is twenty nine

799
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: years older, you go younger and look at maybe in

800
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: Austin Corbett twenty six played for the Rams. Now what

801
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: do those teams do with those players? But as far

802
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: as addressing guard in free agency where it's going to

803
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 1: cost you some or wait until April and the draft, well,

804
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 1: I think when you're picking twenty third in according to Jeremiah,

805
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: I think of his top fifteen or twenty players, he

806
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:24,720
Speaker 1: has nine edge rushers. If Chandler Jones tests free agency

807
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: doesn't come back, you got to fill that void. But

808
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: again there's we've seen guys get drafted in a second

809
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: and third round. I think I think corner, interior line,

810
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 1: and edge rusher, and again you can go wide receiver

811
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: if you lose Christian Kirk. I think at twenty three

812
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 1: and they could quick trade down. Now I think they're

813
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 1: gonna have at least seven picks and then three Compenstory picks,

814
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: which obviously are usually on Day three, so they can

815
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: have some wiggle room if they want to move on

816
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: late in the draft. But I gotta think interior line, corner,

817
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: defensive line, and possible your receiver if you don't retain.

818
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: And again they're going to stick to their board, but

819
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard to project who's going to be there.

820
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: And then we're gonna say, well, he was the fifth

821
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: offensive lineman drafted. Well, if they had him ranked in

822
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: their top fifteen, he goes to twenty three, where you're

823
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 1: doing good, You're doing well there, so I'm not going

824
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: to get fixated on well, you got the fifth best

825
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: offensive linement. We don't know, we don't know if any

826
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: of these new head coaches are going to do anything.

827
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: And their new opportunities. We just don't know's. That's the

828
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: beauty of the draft. It's a crapshoot, and teams put

829
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: all a lot of money. They scout these guys. They

830
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: talk to their strength coach. Nobody knows the players better

831
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: than their strength coach. They talked to their position coach,

832
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: they talked to the head coach, and they talk to

833
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 1: other players. And you gather all this information and two things,

834
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 1: you don't know. What's in the chest that they love football,

835
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 1: they want to be great or just good? And what's

836
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: between the years because football has played above the shoulders

837
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: at times, and we've seen that it's not always the

838
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: most skilled player the most talented player. And when we

839
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 1: talk about talent, it's not how fast you can run,

840
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: how much you can bench press, it's how much do

841
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: you understand what is being asked of you, whether a

842
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 1: game plan, reading defenses, reading offenses, and being in the

843
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: right spot at the correct time. I mean, we've seen

844
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: guys struggle. Zavan Collins, Isaiah Simmons skill at skill level

845
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: out of a ten, but still not quite ready to

846
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 1: produce on a consistent basis here in the National Football League.

847
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: Go back to our discussion about Tom Brady not the

848
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:36,240
Speaker 1: most skilled athletic quarterback coming out of college, still not yet.

849
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: What does he do better than anyone else? He knows

850
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 1: where to put that football before the ball is snapped.

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Speaker 1: And that was the beauty of Kurt Warner. Kurt Warner,

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Speaker 1: he was he was hoping you'd blitz, he break the huddle,

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Speaker 1: and he knew exactly where he wanted to go. And

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Speaker 1: you know, that's that's where Kyler's got to get better.

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Speaker 1: Now when you look at sacks, we know the first

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Speaker 1: year it was forty ninety eight and I think thirty

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Speaker 1: one were on Murray. He was in sacks trying to

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Speaker 1: outrun guys. They were take two hundred and seventy pound

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Speaker 1: guys were taking angles. It's definitely improved in the last

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Speaker 1: couple of years, so he's not getting hit as much.

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Speaker 1: But it seemed like in the second half he was

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Speaker 1: being pressured, heard, and knocked down more than he had

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Speaker 1: in the first half. In fact, he was actually if

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Speaker 1: you break down the season in half, he was actually

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Speaker 1: sacked the number the number of sacks thirty one times,

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Speaker 1: but most of those eighteen of those in the first

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Speaker 1: half of the season, and only thirteen in the second

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Speaker 1: half of the season. But I had the same what's

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Speaker 1: the what's the correct phrase that I had the same

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Speaker 1: thought process as you did, because what we see in

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Speaker 1: the second half Murray scrambling, running, pressured. But how many

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Speaker 1: times was he actually dropped to the ground versus the

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Speaker 1: first half of the season. I just my eyes tell

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Speaker 1: me he was pressured. Yes, And again we talked about

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Speaker 1: sacks or fixated, but it was the hurries, pressures and

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Speaker 1: knockdowns and again the Rams game, he was just rattled.

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Speaker 1: I mean he was looking at the rush. You cannot

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Speaker 1: look at the rush. You have to feel the rush.

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Speaker 1: Your parochial vision will show Iffinity's running around your feet.

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Speaker 1: You have to keep your eyes down the field, because

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Speaker 1: will you take your eyes off the field for one

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Speaker 1: second to duck your head or look at the rush.

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Speaker 1: All of a sudden that guy was open, he's no

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Speaker 1: longer open, and you're looking at ghosts or you turn

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Speaker 1: your back to the defense, which we saw a couple

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Speaker 1: of times in the playoffs. Patrick Mahomes has made a

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Speaker 1: living of doing that and the postseason sometimes successful, sometimes not.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, offensive line, and it's not the sexy position.

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Speaker 1: It's not gonna be something that's gonna jump off the

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Speaker 1: page and free agency or on draft night. But it

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Speaker 1: does need to be addressed now and then when looking

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Speaker 1: at this season moving forward, because again Humphreys, Pugh, Beecham

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Speaker 1: all free agents after this upcoming season. Well, I gotta

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Speaker 1: think DJ is gonna get another contract. I'll say this

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Speaker 1: though in stating the obvious, but we'll point out just

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Speaker 1: having Hopkins on the field. Yeah, I mean, it sounds

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Speaker 1: so simple, but here at the end of the year,

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Speaker 1: he let the team in touchdowns at a wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: How many games did he miss separation? You know, regardless

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Speaker 1: of who comes back, just having a top three receiver

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Speaker 1: and we know Kyler that's his first reading it should be.

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Speaker 1: Go back to that first game. I think he was

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Speaker 1: targeted seventeen times at fifteen catches against the Niners, and

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Speaker 1: I asked someone, Hey, is he gonna get those targets

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Speaker 1: the next week? Well, they said, if that's the coverage,

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Speaker 1: are gonna play him? Just having him on the field,

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Speaker 1: Craig makes a huge difference. You got a roll coverage

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Speaker 1: over all of a sudden, if you're running the ball,

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Speaker 1: and when the Cardinals are at their best, they have

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Speaker 1: balance on offense. You had a great stat I don't

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Speaker 1: know if when it was ten in two forty eight

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Speaker 1: percent rushing and fifty two percent passing, and then there

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Speaker 1: was a three game stretch they were throwing the ball

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Speaker 1: seventy five percent of the time and only running at

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Speaker 1: twenty five percent of time, And that was probably because

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Speaker 1: you really didn't have Chase Edmonds and Connor. I think

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Speaker 1: the last game they would play together was in Detroit,

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Speaker 1: and Kyler wasn't running as much, which was the plan,

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Speaker 1: but out of necessity he needed to run more. It's

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Speaker 1: always fascinated when you look at the offense and try

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Speaker 1: to break down the numbers and try to explain why

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Speaker 1: what happened offensive line play, skill position play, quarterback play,

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Speaker 1: or the fact that DeAndre Hopkins wasn't on the football field.

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Speaker 1: Probably a combination of both, but the d hop conversation

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Speaker 1: is certainly one that will have a lot over the

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Speaker 1: course of the offseason. Yeah, and I love the pickup

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Speaker 1: for zach Ertz, but they were a different team without

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Speaker 1: Max Williams. He's your perfect eleven personnel. He always thought

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Speaker 1: he's the meeting potatoes guy. He could chip, he can release.

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Speaker 1: Clearly Kyla had you a good trust and not only

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Speaker 1: Max Williams. Dan Arnold. Now you're gonna take some shots

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Speaker 1: when you grow on the team. And then clearly when

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Speaker 1: Hopcott went down, zach Ertz was targeted ten and a

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Speaker 1: half times throughout the stretch of a regular season. I

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Speaker 1: don't know why he wasn't targeted fifteen times in the

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Speaker 1: Rams game. Don't forget burd Gang Pro Bowl coming up

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Speaker 1: on Sunday one PM. Kyler Murray, James Connor, DJ Humphries,

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Speaker 1: Chandler Jones, and Buddha Baker all participating, and there will

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Speaker 1: be contents up on Easy Cardinals dot Com the day's

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Speaker 1: leading up to the game, plus postgame as well. And

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Speaker 1: on that note, we will put a lid on this

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Speaker 1: edition of Cardinals Cover two, presented by Huntday, proud partner

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Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to our

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Speaker 1: executive producer Jim Alma hundred for Mike Jarecki. I'm praig

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Speaker 1: Riel Loup. We'll talk to you next time here on

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two.