WEBVTT - Meghan Trainor ON: Breaking Generational Trauma & How to Be Confident From the Inside Out 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:05.400 All day long. Your body is saying fire alarm, fire alarm, fireflight, run, 0:00:05.840 --> 0:00:08.400 And I was like, mmm, Like I was sitting with him, 0:00:08.400 --> 0:00:10.360 in my back felt like it was on fire. I 0:00:10.440 --> 0:00:12.840 was like, see, it's crazy, it's happening right now. It's 0:00:12.960 --> 0:00:15.200 feel it. I think it's really hot. He's like, no, 0:00:15.320 --> 0:00:18.760 your chemicals are so messed up that your body doesn't 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:21.080 know where you're supposed to be here adrenals are on fire. 0:00:27.200 --> 0:00:29.960 Hey everyone, Welcome back to On Purpose, the number one 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:32.440 health podcast in the world. Thanks to each and every 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:35.680 single one of you who come back every week to listen, learn, 0:00:35.800 --> 0:00:38.760 and grow. 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Go to Jay shettytour dot 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:20.800 com to learn more information about tickets, VIP experiences and more. 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:23.240 I can't wait to see you this year. Now, you 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:25.959 know that I love sitting down with people from different backgrounds, 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:29.120 different walks of life who are adding meaning, impact and 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:32.800 purpose into the world, that have an incredible presence and 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:34.560 use it to do so much good in the world. 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:37.479 And today's guest is someone who has been so kind 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:40.600 to me, so gracious to me online and offline. And 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:45.240 our first interaction was actually this January when I announced 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:47.920 me being the Chief Purpose Officer at Calm and we 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:51.520 did a series of lives and when this guest today 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:54.040 said yes, I was over the moon because I love 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:56.680 her energy. I followed her for a long long time, 0:01:56.720 --> 0:01:59.720 admire her work, and for her to say yes was 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:03.280 dream come true. So today's guest is none other than 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:06.600 Megan Trainer. And Megan first made history in twenty fourteen 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:10.720 with her Diamonds certified hit single All About That Bass. 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:14.480 Since then, the award winning singer, songwriter and multi instrumentalist 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:18.440 has garnered a Grammy for Best new artist, achieved eight 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:22.959 multi platinum singles and two platinum albums, sold out three 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:26.520 world tours, penned multi platinum hits for peers across pop 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:32.040 and country, and received countless industry awards and nominations. Now 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:34.400 on top of all of that, last fall, we got 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:37.360 to watch Megan as the host of Top Share Family 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:40.640 Style on Peacock and as a judge on Clash of 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:44.200 the Cover Bands on e In September of twenty twenty one, 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:47.520 she also launched her podcast Working on It, which she 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:51.359 hosts alongside her brother Ryan. Megan has recently released her 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:53.560 new single bad for Me, which by the way, my 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:56.280 producer has been singing and listening to all week, featuring 0:02:56.320 --> 0:02:59.920 Teddy Swims, along with the announcement of her fourth full 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:04.120 length album, Taking It Back, arriving October twenty first, twenty 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:08.280 twenty two, mark the date. Welcome Megan, Training Up, Megan, 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:12.079 thank you for being here. You're amazing. You're amazing. You 0:03:12.160 --> 0:03:14.440 did all of that. You had to you had to 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:16.960 live it, you had to create it, you had to 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:21.440 write it. I mean it's incredible. Wow. Congratulation, Thank you. 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:25.000 I sound so cool. You are you say it? Yeah? 0:03:25.040 --> 0:03:28.280 Even just your energy. Walking in today and I saw 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:30.240 you come out in the car and just your presence, 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:32.040 your energy, everything that you said. I was just like, 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:33.799 this is my kind of human, Like, this is the 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:35.760 kind of person that I want to be around. You 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:39.520 will adopt me. Okay, yeah, thank you. Thank you for 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:41.640 being here. Honestly, thanks for having me. I'm honored that 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:45.760 you are. You're like, Oprah, You're amazing what you do 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:48.280 for everyone in the world, and I'm honored and I'll 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:49.760 do whatever you tell me to do. So thank you. 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:53.000 Thanks for letting me be here. I'm humbled and touched 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:56.720 by that. I actually got to say that Oprah because 0:03:57.120 --> 0:04:00.000 she I grew up watching her and so for me 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:01.920 when I finally got to interview her, her book was 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:03.360 coming out and we got to do the first interview, 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:05.760 is very exciting for me, and I said her afterwards. 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:08.080 I said, hey, Oprah, you know, I think I do 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:10.000 what I do because I grew up watching you, and 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:12.600 you showed me that you can make meaningful stuff really 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:15.440 powerful and it can be really mainstream. It doesn't have 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:18.480 to be in this little box over here. And what 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:20.240 she said to me is really special. She said that 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:24.320 Maya Angelou said to her that her best work will 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:27.200 not be the impact she makes, but the impact that 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:30.440 the people she impacts make. And I just thought that, 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:33.880 so anyway, I appreciate, but I'm passing it on to Oprah. 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:38.440 And but I want to dive into so many things 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:43.760 with you today because you just such an interesting, fascinating persona. 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:45.440 But the first thing I want to ask you is 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:48.160 you have a secret door in your home? I do. 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:51.560 I want to know all about it because because to me, yeah, 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:55.040 of course, because to me, secret doors like that's the 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:56.680 guy when you just showed me your garden too. And 0:04:56.680 --> 0:04:58.920 I'm not going to give anything away, but those are 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:01.080 the kind of homes I get fascinated about because they're 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:03.320 the kind of homes you dreamed of as a kid. Yeah. Literally, 0:05:03.279 --> 0:05:06.680 so tell me about this. I'm creating my dream house 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:08.480 for when I was a child. Yeah, that's what I'm 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:11.440 doing right now for my future four children. I have 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:14.719 one now, but he can barely walk, so we'll get there. Um. 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:17.599 But I have a secret door in my house. And 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:19.520 the house I bought is really cool. Not a lot 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:21.760 of houses in LA have addicts in basement, and I 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:24.760 have both in this house. And my husband we did 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:27.360 so much construction, and he was like, the only thing 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:29.880 I want. I'm like, oh, yes, what would you like? 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:33.039 Maybe he's like a secret door so it looks like 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:36.240 a bookshelf. And I was like, done, Absolutely, we're doing that. 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:38.800 Um And it's the best part of our tour. When 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:43.200 we give tours of our house, Everyone's like, what, um 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:46.360 an attic and that I'm turning into like the best 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:49.480 kids playground ever that I want to do like homeschooling 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:53.000 eventually in so Yeah, we got like slides up there 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:59.200 and that's incredible. I'm inviting myself over just right now. Yeah, 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:00.840 my house is going to be sick one day when 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:03.400 it's done. I love it. I'm very excited. I went 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:05.520 to home when I first moved to La I think 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:08.800 I was living here already, and it's the coolest house 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:12.640 I've ever been to. His name's Frank Learns, and he's 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:15.240 a speech writer for most of the presidents of the 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:18.160 United States and that's his career to write speeches teach 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:21.520 people communication. And we spoke at a conference together in 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:24.839 Singapore and his presentation was amazing, and somehow he liked 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:27.400 mine and so we became friends over it at the 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:29.360 end and we got connected and he lives in La 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:30.880 two and he was like, all right, when you back, 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:32.719 come over to my house. I was like, great, he's 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:35.840 in his mid fifties or something, and so I went 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:37.840 over for dinner at his house. And his house is 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:40.640 like a museum, Like he has the first shirt that 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:43.360 Nelson Mandela wore to the United States, and he has 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:47.440 like all of these incredible documents, like the invite that 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:51.320 JFK received before the assassination, like he has He's just 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:53.400 like these really amazing things. And we went into this 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:55.680 room and it had this It wasn't the Titanic, it 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:58.120 was another famous boat, like a structure of it, and 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:00.840 there was a little Winston Churchill in the corner. And 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:03.240 he asked me to stroke Winston Churchill's head. And that's 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:05.279 when things got really weird. And then I looked at 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:07.680 my phone. I had no data and no signal. I 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:10.160 was really scared. And so I saw the little Winston 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:12.520 Churchill and he goes, yeah, stroke his head three times, 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:14.360 and I was like, this is getting really weird. But okay, 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:17.760 I stroked Winston Churchill's head three times, and this trapdoor 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:21.120 open and it was so cool. And I'll say the 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:22.880 rest of it later, but anyway, my point being, I 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:26.360 love trapdoors. You also have you also have not trapdoors? 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:33.160 I love. I love dungeons. Dungeons. I'm from London. Dungeons 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:35.240 are a big thing in London. The London Dungeons is 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:37.280 a great attraction for anyone is wondering. But you also 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:41.080 have two toilets? Can you? Can you explain that too? Wow? 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:43.680 You really got to come over my house. Yeah, I'm 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:50.160 very fascinated by esthetic. Okay, So in our bedroom upstairs, 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:55.240 there's one bathroom and the other bedrooms are farther away, 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:57.320 and my husband and I get up all night long 0:07:57.400 --> 0:07:59.840 with the baby. We used to. Now he sleeps, he's great, 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:01.560 but we used to get up all night long and 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:03.960 every time I had to pee, Darrel would have to 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:06.360 pee at the same time, and I'd be like, get oh, 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:08.680 there's my turn. And I remember in this new house, 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:13.320 we literally like built rooms from scratch, and they had 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:14.880 a bidet next to the bathroom and I was like, 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:17.240 we'll never use that, but there was an extra hole. 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:18.960 And then I saw the dream and I was like, 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:21.960 I have an extra toilet. And I was to the plumber. 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:23.560 I was like, can you pop both of these next 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:24.800 to each other, and he was like, what are you 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:27.920 talking about. I was like, just right there, right next 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:29.560 to each other, and he like laughed and thought I 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:31.960 was joking. I was like, get it done, and he did. 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:34.840 And it was the best decision ever. Like, if you're 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:37.840 really close to your husband, like my like we're tight, 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:40.920 we're close to the most. We like pee together and 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:44.199 it's the best bonding time ever. I don't know, we're 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:47.360 not nasty with it, but like it blew up and 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:50.440 the whole world was like, oh, and I have couple 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:53.559 friends that are they're older than Daryl and I are. 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:55.520 Were young. We got lucky we met each other like 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:59.360 twenty two, but they're like, you pee in the same 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:01.440 room as your has been. I'm like, oh, he'll chill 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:05.199 with me if I'm going number two, Like we hang out, 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:09.839 you know, like we don't do it at the same time. Yeah. 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:13.360 I loves well, thank you. We wanted to start. Now 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:16.840 everything goes deep, but no, I love it. Thank you 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:18.559 and thank you for learning us into your home. I've 0:09:18.559 --> 0:09:20.520 been loving following you on TikTok for that real It's 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:22.839 just it's so nice getting to know someone and then 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:25.240 meeting someone in person and going, oh you're you're even 0:09:25.280 --> 0:09:28.640 more wonderful. Investment is a great feeling. So but but 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:31.520 I want to go through parts of your journey that 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:33.280 that I thought it would be interesting to us and 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:36.080 you and just everything you talk about when it comes 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:38.920 to mental health and you talk about like toxic relationships, 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:41.840 and I just love your openness and vulnerability in a 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:44.920 way that I know my community and audience really needs 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:47.720 that insight. But I want to go all the way 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:49.960 back to Nantucket, which is where you grew up, right, 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:52.960 and then yea, yeah, like you know the feedback that 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:55.400 I always hear about it's the cutest town or you know, 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:58.000 it's like tell me about what it was like growing 0:09:58.080 --> 0:10:01.520 up there for you, and you know what you dreamed 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:04.640 of at that time. The world was so small. Everything 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:07.120 was so small. The buildings are small. So when we 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:10.000 would go off island, which was like travel anywhere else, 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:12.520 we're like, oh, are you going off island? Like the 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:15.760 buildings were huge, and there's like traffic lights were used 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:18.840 to stop signs, so everywhere else felt huge. And I 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:21.080 still get scared when I go to New York. I'm like, well, 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:23.920 these buildings are way too tall. And like when we 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:26.080 park in a parking garage, I have full panic because 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:28.079 I'm like, oh, well, we're gonna be late. We have 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:29.880 to find a parking spot and get a ticket. It's 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:33.240 the whole thing. But Nantucket was great and growing up there, 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:35.920 though there's there's no mall, there's no place for kids 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:38.800 to hang out, so you start drinking and doing drugs 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:42.520 at like fourteen, wow, and like hooking up at a 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:45.839 very young age. And like, when I look back at 0:10:45.880 --> 0:10:48.240 stuff that we did, I'm like, how is I not 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:51.320 murdered or kidnapped? Or like, how am I not a 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:53.480 full blown drug addict? A lot of my friends are, 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:57.720 and even my brother had problems with alcohol and drugs, 0:10:57.720 --> 0:10:59.920 but he managed it so well that we were like, 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:01.680 you don't have a problem. You're just fun, you know. 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:04.480 And then recently he was like, okay, I need to 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:07.360 be sober. Wow. So it was it's like if you 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:10.240 made it off that rock, like you won, you survived. 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:13.560 So it was a crazy place to live. It's it's 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:15.920 so different when I grew up in London, which is 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:18.559 obviously this big city and you're always around big buildings, 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:20.760 And then I moved to New York and I've lived 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:22.400 in Mumbai and now I live in La So I've 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:24.840 always been moving from big city to big city. You 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:27.400 get that tough like you can handle it well, you 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:30.079 can handle the city, but there's there's also it takes 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:32.360 a lot more effort to feel grounded or to be 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:34.640 in nature or you know. That took a lot of training. 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:37.360 Took a lot of training for me to adapt to that. 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:40.679 And I also find that you know when you when 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:43.720 you're talking about I went to Montana recently, and that's 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:45.960 where when I was speaking to a lot of the 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:48.720 people that lived in the area, and a lot of 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:51.719 the kids there were saying they'd never left, and they 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:53.800 were saying that they all went to the same salon 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:56.400 on a Saturday evening, and they that one of them 0:11:56.440 --> 0:11:58.520 went to Nyu for the summer, but then she moved 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:00.840 back and she'd like she'd never seen a Chipotle before, 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:05.240 she'd moved out of town. Stuff. And it's always interesting 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:07.960 to me because we grow up in such bubbles where 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:10.480 you think everyone thinks like you and everyone's living like you. 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:12.680 When was the first time that that bubble kind of 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:15.400 was burst or changed or switched. What was the experience 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:17.240 where you're like, oh wow, there's a whole world and 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:20.800 people who think differently. And um, I mean when my 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:24.959 parents started bringing me to songwriting conventions like songwriting competitions, 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:29.800 and I would travel, like my my brothers got a gift. Well, 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:31.720 it'd be a whole family thing. I have two brothers, 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:33.719 So for Christmas one year, they're like, we're going to 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:37.000 go to California and have Megan go to this songwriting 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:39.320 thing with ASCAP and the boys would get to go 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:41.599 to the zoo. You know, it would always be a 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:43.319 family thing, but they would make sure the boys got 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:46.920 to do something fun too. But I remember like traveling 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:49.360 with my family and seeing Hollywood and I was like 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:52.679 you but like I was like, oh, it's it's a 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:55.200 little different than the movies. But then I lived in 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:58.679 Nashville for a year by myself and that was my college. 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:01.400 I was nineteen and I was like a songwriter. I 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:03.600 would drive to work at noon and I'd write a 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:06.000 song and I'd come home by myself. And I did 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:08.040 that for a year and then wrote all about that 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:10.600 bass and got signed and like had to move to 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:14.240 la at nineteen. So a lot of my friends were 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:16.400 like in college and went home for the summer and 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:19.720 I was like, I didn't. I don't know. I feel 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:23.199 like I missed a lot of learning steps and relationships, 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:26.240 Like there's a whole friend group out there that I 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:28.600 would have had that I don't know them, you know, 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:31.120 because I just went to work. But I wouldn't have 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:34.280 it any other way. Like we did it. That's it, Yeah, 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:39.000 that's yeah. But there's there's definitely differences that I'm frustrated with, 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:41.680 Like I don't know how to do taxes. I don't 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:45.360 know how to do many things because at nineteen, all 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:46.840 of a sudden, there was a team that did it 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:50.480 for me. Yeah, and so when like I don't know, 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:53.160 there's simple tasks that I'm like, I can't I can't 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:57.079 imagine doing that that I feel. I'm working with my 0:13:57.120 --> 0:13:59.600 therapist on I feel stupid. Sometimes I feel silly and 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:02.920 like and she's like, you're not stupid, like look around, 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:04.839 and I'm like, yeah, but there's simple things. I can't 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:08.079 figure out geography. I don't know where anything is. I 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:10.520 don't know. I want to I want to share something 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:12.040 with you. I promise you that most people who went 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:13.920 to college don't know how to do their taxes. Okay, 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:16.800 I know what, you know what the problem, I'll be 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:19.560 honest with me included and I went I went to 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:21.800 cast Business School, Like I don't know how to do 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:24.600 my own taxes because because and the reason I say 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:28.120 that is because you just never trained in the simple thing. 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:31.160 Like it's it's sad, but no one knows how to 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:33.040 get a mortgage or how to you know, how to 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:35.840 get taxes, Like you don't know these until you have 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:37.360 to do it. Yeah, and then when you have to 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:39.360 do it, you figure it out. Like for me, I 0:14:39.360 --> 0:14:41.280 had to learn a whole new system when I moved 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:43.360 to the US, so just about when I figured it. 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:46.160 So I moved to the US when I was twenty eight, 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:49.240 and so at twenty eight, Yeah, there we go. Yeah, 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:53.680 you moved to when you were nineteen, so yeah, experience. 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:55.680 But yeah, no, I moved to the US six years 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:57.480 ago when I was twenty eight, and it was like 0:14:57.520 --> 0:14:59.560 I just figured out how to do taxes in London 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:02.080 that I moved and had to figure it all out again. 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:05.800 And so I you know, I don't think you should 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:09.280 be so hard on yourself because because I'd be honest 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:10.640 with the and I don't think most people know how 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:13.800 to do the things you just mentioned. Yeah, yeah, everyone. 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:17.880 But when you look at that experience, when you talk 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:22.040 about going into songwriting competitions, Yeah, it's really interesting because 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:26.040 competition often turns people off art and it can often 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:28.360 be a challenger. It's like you're competing at something and 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:31.760 then often you lose taste for I remember I swam 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:34.360 a lot when I was in college and high school, 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:36.320 and I was a pretty good swimmer, and my parents 0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:38.680 really wanted me to be a competitive swimmer, and I 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:41.760 hated the competitive side of swimming. I love competition and 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:43.440 other areas of my life, I just didn't enjoy it 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:45.800 in the water. For you, what was that experience like 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:48.280 of because that was even younger than nineteen, right, you 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:51.800 going to the competition with other kids, but it wasn't 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:54.520 even kids, it was adults. Oh wow. Like it ranged 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:57.960 from my age seventeen to like fifty five, where they're like, 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:00.840 I still want to be a songwriter and here's my chance, 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:04.160 and I would like always write on my CDs before 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:05.920 we played it. I'd be like I produced it myself, 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:08.600 like be easy on the production. And I was like 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:11.160 just a young girl, I don't know what I'm doing here, 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:13.640 And they would critique your songs in front of everyone, 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:19.440 so it wasn't like we were competing first songwriting and 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:23.120 if you won, you got signed. And my second year 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:24.720 I did it and I was like, Dad, I don't 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:26.760 want to go back, and he's like, your album's way better. Now, 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:29.840 let's go back. The second year I got signed and 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:32.080 everyone's like, Megan's the one that got picked this year, 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:35.520 and I was like, that's amazing. Do you remember any 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:38.800 feedback from the first year that like stage with me, Yeah, 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:41.200 my lyrics didn't make sense because they didn't um my 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:44.840 production was bad, but they saw potential. They're like it's 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:47.800 in there. You just gotta be better at like maybe 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:49.880 you shouldn't have said that here or this doesn't really 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:51.520 rhyme and blah blah blah, and I was like they 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:54.800 don't know anything. I'm like, Dad, they suck. But then 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:56.600 I went home and I wrote a whole new album 0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:58.880 and sent it in and then it was like night 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:00.440 and day and they're like, wow, he took our notes 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:03.920 and you came back. So it was great and everyone 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:06.320 should do it. And it sucked and it was great, 0:17:06.600 --> 0:17:08.360 but my parents would make fun of me because I'd 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:10.119 be like, oh, want to go, and they would drag me. 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:11.800 And then when I'd be like when I go, I'd 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:13.920 be like, that was the best thing ever I rock 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:18.200 and like, see, how do people get that courage though? 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:23.159 Because I feel that supportive parents, that was it. Really 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:25.840 My parents blew to me so much and I was bad, 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:28.639 Like I wasn't horrific, but I was bad. Like I 0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:30.359 hear the songs now and I'm like, what were you 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:35.560 guys thinking? And my mom like nowadays, she's like she's 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:37.800 still trying to get those fifteen year old songs cut, 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:40.480 like they're sorry, not cut. A lot of people don't 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:42.879 know what that's what that means. When I say like 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:45.080 get a song cut, I mean another artist sing it. 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:47.280 So she's still trying to like sell those songs and 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:50.720 I'm like, mom, they're embarrassing, Like there's sometimes those songs 0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:52.760 will get pitched and they'll get cut and she's like 0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:54.960 I knew it, like I knew you were good back then, 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:58.320 and I'm like, wow, you really believed in me. And 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:00.240 my parents are those parents that are like every one 0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:01.919 should go to college, and for me, they were like 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:04.439 go to work, like, go be a songwriter. This is 0:18:04.440 --> 0:18:07.000 what you're good at You're gonna do this forever. How 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:08.840 do you think they noticed that? Like, what was it 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:12.040 in you? Because obviously, and that's wonderful to hear that, 0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:16.359 but they obviously saw something yea, And they saw a habit, 0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:18.800 a trait, a pattern, some work ethic. What did they see? 0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:21.800 I think my worth ethic at a young age, Like 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:25.280 I wasn't getting all a's in school, but I'd get 0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:27.880 like B minuses and season whatever. But I would come 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:30.520 home after school every single day and I would use 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:32.520 the production that my dad would get me at Christmas time. 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:35.440 I'd use my computer and I would be in garage 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:38.240 band to logic and I would write a song after 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:40.000 school every day and I'd play it for them by 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:42.760 dinner time. So in like four hours, I would write 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:44.800 and produce a whole song and be like check this out. 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:48.679 And it was me like loving what I'm doing. It 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:51.040 didn't feel like work, but it was also me showing 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:53.119 my parents like thank you for buying this for me, 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:55.560 and like I'm gonna make you proud of with us someday. 0:18:55.880 --> 0:18:59.080 And my dad, my dad was like, this is a 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:00.879 credit card where I'm buying all your stuff on you 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:04.520