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Speaker 1: Going on? Brother?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a good weekend, but the problem is

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Speaker 2: So you know, uh, I think one thing that's come

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Speaker 2: to fruition And you had been saying.

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Speaker 3: This for a while.

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Speaker 2: The Eagles were on this slippery slope. I mean, they

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Speaker 2: escaped so many games, then they played two good teams

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Speaker 2: and they got their ass kicked. And while statistically, I

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Speaker 2: mean I guess they had the advantage in that Seattle game,

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Speaker 2: the majority of it that they definitely just look off

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Speaker 2: and their defense like, to me, I don't view them

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Speaker 2: currently as a Super Bowl contender, the way they're playing.

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Speaker 4: No, there's a lot of things wrong with the Eagles

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Speaker 4: right now. I mean just look and look. Yeah, I

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Speaker 4: mean the Seattle got kind of lucky late, but it

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Speaker 4: was you know, they were playing the they're playing Drew

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Speaker 4: Locke and they had some other guys out and they

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Speaker 4: kind of just summed up the Eagles season. The offense

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Speaker 4: couldn't put it all together. And then their secondary got

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Speaker 4: absolutely cooked, James Bradbury in particular. And you know their

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Speaker 4: secondary right now as a bottom ten group, if they're

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Speaker 4: not getting pressure, they can't stop anyone. I think Bradbury,

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Speaker 4: end Sleigh they've really dropped off. They're both over thirty,

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Speaker 4: try to play a lot of men, just have lost

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Speaker 4: a step that's like a back. And then their offense

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Speaker 4: team defensive started to play them differently, throwing more zone

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Speaker 4: out there and hurts just you know, he also has

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Speaker 4: been one hundred percent healthy. But I think they also

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Speaker 4: look at what the Shane Steichen's doing with the Colts.

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Speaker 4: I think Jonathan Ganon was a really underrated defensive coordinators.

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Speaker 4: I think they missed both coordinators as well. And you know,

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Speaker 4: whenever you think that you're a super Bowl contender. You're

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Speaker 4: in it's week fifteen and you're having your quarterback fall

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Speaker 4: down in practice because he's fumbling it too much. You're

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Speaker 4: making your Matt Patricia, the defensive coordinator h Those are

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Speaker 4: all huge red flags. So yeah, it's the the NFC. Now,

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Speaker 4: it's it's now. Look it's a one football game played

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Speaker 4: with an oblong ball with injuries.

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Speaker 2: You know, so seen in the NCAA tournament, our entire life.

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Speaker 2: Weird shit in a one game situation can happen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, anything can happen.

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Speaker 2: The Niners almost lost the Cowboys last year. The Cowboys

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Speaker 2: gave them everything they could handle.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 4: And you know who knows You saw what happened in

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Speaker 4: the with the four downs in Philly last year. Christian

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Speaker 1: You never know. It can happen in one game.

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Speaker 4: But as of right now, I think with the forty

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Speaker 4: this year. They are clearly the favorite in the NFC.

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Speaker 4: They won't have to go to you know, even Detroit

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Speaker 4: the Ravens, they're clearly the favorite. I think if I

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Speaker 1: I just want to stay as healthy as possible for once.

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Speaker 4: That would be my main objective because Dallas just did

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Speaker 4: not saying you in the road can get bullied, and

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Speaker 4: this Philly team has too many holes right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, this Ravens game this week, which is,

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Speaker 2: I think, but they're so much better than them. The

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Speaker 2: paddle boat Rons done. They could have it locked up

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Speaker 2: Trent wouldn't play, Bosa probably wouldn't play, and he would

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Speaker 3: A lot of those guys out early, so they would

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Speaker 2: Know, it's crazy because that three game losing streak, the

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Speaker 2: the way it's all played out, it's all kind of

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Speaker 2: I watched the Sirianne press conference. He's getting peppered and rightfully,

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Speaker 2: so it's a big story. But Patricia was fine. I mean,

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Speaker 2: beside the one drive you score seventeen points against fucking Seattle,

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Speaker 2: I mean it's Goddard was healthy. The two receivers are healthy.

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Speaker 2: but Jesus like that to me, that's the problem. Their

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Speaker 2: offense is just two average right now for how much

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Speaker 4: Yep, yeah, I know the league is adjusted to what

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Speaker 4: The running game is taking a step back. They've changed,

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Speaker 4: it's both sides of the ball, and they were getting.

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Speaker 2: You can't you can't throw a wide receiver screen with

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Speaker 2: I like DeVante Smith a lot. That's just like, what

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Speaker 1: You know. The Eagles.

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Speaker 4: The only thing they have working in their favor, and

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Speaker 4: we'll see what they do is that you know, they

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Speaker 4: have the Giants twice, they have the Cardinals. They have

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Speaker 4: now they're kind of under the radar. They can they

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Speaker 4: take a month to figure some things out. So we'll

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Speaker 4: see and they get they get the rest up. It's

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Speaker 4: been a brutal stretch for them. But yeah, I see

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Speaker 4: too many holes for them for me to consider them

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Speaker 4: a legit real Super Bowl threat as of this moment,

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Speaker 4: which certainly could change. And yeah, that it's interesting with

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Speaker 4: the four downs. If they have everything locked up the Rams,

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Speaker 4: that could really help the Rams get in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, per week eighteen, So.

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Speaker 4: That's that's certainly something to watch. So we'll see how

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Speaker 4: all that plays out. So many teams should be a

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Speaker 4: crazy finish in the NFL from a playoff perspective.

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Speaker 2: Not counting the Eagles or Cowboys as the five seed

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Speaker 2: because they would be heavy favorite in that first round game.

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Speaker 2: But if you look at the other it'd be I

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Speaker 2: guess five wildcard teams, wouldn't you say that? I guess

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Speaker 2: Browns and the Rams are just two teams that wild

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Speaker 2: card weekend. I think you're gonna take some money, you know.

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Speaker 2: I mean just obviously the way the Browns played defense,

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Speaker 2: a tough out. And obviously the Rams, you know, have

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Speaker 2: already kind of can envision this coming. Can you see

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Speaker 3: That would suck. I feel bad for the Lions fans.

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Speaker 4: That would be must C TV. I yeah, I think

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Speaker 4: be like, we don't need the Steelers in, and there's

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I think those two teams would certainly be

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Speaker 4: interesting underdogs in the first round.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's dive into to the weekend slate. We got

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Speaker 2: recording this on Wednesday, so we got Thursday night Saints

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Speaker 2: at the Rams. I hope, I'm just hope the Saints lose.

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Speaker 2: I'm cool with Tampa getting in. Then we got a

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Speaker 2: Brandon Staley is no longer in our lives. But the

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Speaker 2: Chargers aren't eleven and a half point underdog. They have

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Speaker 2: a backup quarterback who clearly, you know, looked a little overwhelmed.

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Speaker 2: They've had a longer rest. The Bills are coming off

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Speaker 2: body clock, Chargers plus eleven and a half. Tell me

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Speaker 2: why you like Dean Smanos's team?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is I mean, historically you get a little

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Speaker 4: the next week and teams have overperformed.

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Speaker 4: Part of that is and I think you always want

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Speaker 4: appears that the team has quit on the coach, and

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Speaker 4: that was the case last week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they give up sixty plus points to Aidan O'Connell

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Speaker 4: And I'm sitting there and I'm saying many if they

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Speaker 4: fire Staley and the Bills win, I'm gonna have to

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Speaker 4: bet them next week because it looks like they quit.

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Speaker 1: There's still professionals.

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Speaker 2: You know, following you on the old X app, is

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Speaker 3: It's like, what the fuck does the quarterback not bear

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Speaker 1: Yeah, ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: Like I get if you want to throw the flag

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Speaker 4: I remember when they first started doing this, I would

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Speaker 4: whole life. Now, I just know already assumed the flag's coming.

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Speaker 4: But to eject him and then suspend him for the season.

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Speaker 1: Suspend him for the season, no pay, ridiculous. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Shane Stikeen's done a tremendous job. The Eagles really miss him.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, look this team. Since October first, they

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Speaker 1: They're five to two and one possession games, the second

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Speaker 4: It was in a just an unplayable game. Unplayable.

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Speaker 2: Well, what would I if you knew you had to

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Speaker 3: What would I have to pay you?

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Speaker 2: Someone asked me to attend that game in the rainstorm,

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Speaker 2: those two teams, I'd.

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Speaker 3: Fly you there.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's like you're not there, so you got

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Speaker 3: You got to go to the game. How much money

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny. I last week I tweeted this out.

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Speaker 4: You would have to pay me thousands of dollars. So

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Speaker 3: But the other thing is you got to be out.

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Speaker 4: You got to sit out on I you know, it's

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Speaker 1: I value my Sunday job, you know. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I would say I would take if he gave me

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Speaker 2: I said, twenty five k, twenty five k, twenty.

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Speaker 3: Five because I gotta fly there. I gotta miss I

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no, you're right, Yeah, yeah, I mean this

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Speaker 4: I'll say, I'll say ten grand if you give me

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Speaker 4: ten grand. I didn't even considered the life interruption. Oh

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Speaker 4: it's not as bad as for me, I'm kind of closer.

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Speaker 3: It's a long flight now.

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Speaker 2: And I also said brown bag, right, so I'm this

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no the life interruption there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll watched some of that game. It was fucking

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Speaker 2: That's as bad as it gets. It does not get

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's how I feel about. Yeah, I'll put

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Speaker 1: My price for now.

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Speaker 4: This weekend it's like Christmas, so my price will probably

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Speaker 4: I'll take twenty k. If someone wants to pay me

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Speaker 4: someone wants to pay me to go watch Jets Commanders.

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Speaker 1: On Sunday twenty cats.

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Speaker 4: You gotta give me twenty k cash and a ticket

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Speaker 3: Where's that game? My life.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, in my life, I'll be like an hour and

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Speaker 4: I think it might be like Simeon. I don't even

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Speaker 4: that game was awful last week. But the Falcons were

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Speaker 4: The Colts have just they beat nobody. They've been really

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Speaker 4: here's the game like Ritter does every week. And Ritter

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Speaker 1: I mean this team.

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Speaker 4: I like the Falcons here.

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Speaker 2: To me, if he gets fired, they'd have a team

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Speaker 2: like someone on that team that has a lot of

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Speaker 2: talent would be available this offseason, you know, trying to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you never know.

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Speaker 2: That team would be fascinating for the good GMS to

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Speaker 2: coach would probably try to blow it up to me

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Speaker 3: Listen. I've kind of always.

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Speaker 1: Loved fresh college. That's that kind of throat.

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Speaker 4: casual fans were like, what are you doing here? So

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00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 4: you know, I was like, all right, I'm really curious

438
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,680
Speaker 4: to watch for it earlier maybe they you know something

439
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 4: we don't. Yeah, and it saw something and there's going

440
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,439
Speaker 4: to be this big second year leap and now it

441
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 4: was everything that everyone pretty much anticipated. But I will

442
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,640
Speaker 4: say the Foufls they've been super, super unlucky in these

443
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 4: close games, and I mean they've had a lot of

444
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,400
Speaker 4: games where they've out gating teams by two hundred yards.

445
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,720
Speaker 4: Part of that is on the coaching, and they've lost

446
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 4: and they continue to lose. I mean the Bucks game

447
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 4: the other week, they you know, miss a wide up

448
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,879
Speaker 4: a touchdown, Baker goes down the field, scores in the

449
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,159
Speaker 4: final thirty seconds. Then they somehow get it down to

450
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,920
Speaker 4: the two in the game, you know, and their kicker.

451
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 4: I mean, so many things have gone wrong for the

452
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 4: Falcons this year and everything's gone right for the for

453
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,360
Speaker 4: the Colts, and they really haven't beat anybody. I mean,

454
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 4: that's the thing is that if you look back over

455
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 4: the past two months, it's been anyone with a pulse

456
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,160
Speaker 4: they've pretty much lost to. I mean even the Patriots

457
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,119
Speaker 4: could have beat him in London. The Panthers game they

458
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 4: get two pick six is the Titans they win in

459
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 4: overtime because you know, the Titans punter gets hurt pretty much.

460
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 4: So you know, you have the Steelers last week with

461
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:37,119
Speaker 4: three turnovers and just a horribly messy game. So I

462
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,120
Speaker 4: think this is the perfect time to sell the Colts.

463
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Speaker 2: Before we get in the night game. Do you think

464
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:43,680
Speaker 2: in one of these two games we talked about it

465
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Speaker 2: a lot divisional games get weird, especially good team FIRS

466
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,479
Speaker 2: bad team. Is there any chance the Giants won one

467
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 2: of these two games?

468
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they're They're more likely.

469
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Speaker 4: To do it at home, and it'll like that'll be

470
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 4: their super Bowl because you'll get no matter what this week,

471
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,640
Speaker 4: and you'll get the Eagles.

472
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Speaker 3: H they have no choice.

473
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you'll get their best efforts just from like a

474
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,640
Speaker 4: we've lost, you know, multiple games in a row. We're

475
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 4: at home now on Christmas. The crowd will be great

476
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 4: and then they can win that game with the crowd

477
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 4: and their d line, like just the noise and then

478
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 4: the pressure that they'll get. So Davido will get like

479
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 4: he's gonna get sacked like eight times probably in this game.

480
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 4: So yeah, but the way that the Eagles play the Giants,

481
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 4: Eagles games have gotten.

482
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: The Eagles have played very well against this Giants.

483
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:42,719
Speaker 3: They've dominated them.

484
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 4: But so I would be shocked if the Giants won

485
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,919
Speaker 4: this one. But if they cut out flat, like just

486
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 4: think the way that things have been going, it could

487
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 4: get a little weird, but I would I would say

488
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,120
Speaker 4: that the game in New York has a better chance

489
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Speaker 4: of being an upset that could cost the Eagles of division.

490
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 2: Okay, night game Ravens five and a half. Obviously, the

491
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 2: Niners look fucking dominant, even when they're kind of going

492
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 2: through the motions at moments, which they have the last

493
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 2: couple of weeks.

494
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 3: You know, the Ravens look solid, but.

495
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,400
Speaker 2: That that running back injury is pretty devastating. A lot

496
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 2: of MVP buzz coming into this game. I mean, Lamar

497
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,719
Speaker 2: throws three or four touchdowns and Ravens win. I mean,

498
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 2: you can throw his hat right in the ring. To me,

499
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 2: the Niners win by ten plus Perty's throwing three or

500
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 2: four touchdowns. You could argue it just be a rap,

501
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 2: like you said, I mean the quarterback. Usually it usually

502
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 2: comes from the top seed quarterback, Like this is usually

503
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 2: how it works. H thoughts on this game. Being a

504
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 2: Ravens guy, I'm a Niner guy. Let's let's fucking talk

505
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 2: it out.

506
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say Perdy wins if the Niners just

507
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 4: win this game, Purdy wins the MVP.

508
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 2: Uh, McCaffrey, no shot, now.

509
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 4: I just voters just won't. It's just a quarterback award now,

510
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 4: unless like if McCaffrey's set. I mean, it's ridiculous what

511
00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 4: mcaffrey's doing too. If you look from a rushing and

512
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 4: receiving perspective. But I think the only way I running

513
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 4: back can win it is like they have to in

514
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:07,880
Speaker 4: today's day and age.

515
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: Number one, you have to be on the team that

516
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: gets to buy.

517
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 4: You'd have to set like the NFL single season rushing

518
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 4: record and then maybe the touchdown record on top. It's

519
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 4: just such a quarterback award now that I think that

520
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 4: a Party wins this weekend, he wins it, and I

521
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 4: think if he loses, he's still has a really good

522
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 4: chance of winning it.

523
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Speaker 1: But if they win this game, you.

524
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 4: Know, the only like Lamar could get back in there

525
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 4: if because Alan had a shot if like they ran

526
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 4: the table when he put a huge numbers, but like

527
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 4: they just ran them ball fifty times last week, so

528
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,880
Speaker 4: I didn't help his case. Eliminated Dak. The Dolphins guys

529
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 4: are done, So Lamar would have to throw up like

530
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 4: four touchdowns here and then he gets the Dolphins for

531
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 4: the one seed next week and then go nuts again.

532
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 4: So like all these things have to happen for I

533
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 4: think Party not to win it.

534
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Speaker 1: But yeah, I like the Ravens plus five and a

535
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 1: half here.

536
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 4: I the injury to Mitchell does hurt, but I'm I'm

537
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 4: curious to see what the you know, because the Raven's

538
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,360
Speaker 4: number one rushing offense in the NFL if you adjust,

539
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 4: forty nine Ers a right up there as well. But

540
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,360
Speaker 4: the Ravens run dy has been better and of late,

541
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 4: especially because of these injuries that the forty nine ers

542
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 4: are dealing with. So it's Wednesday, it's early. We don't

543
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 4: know the injury report. But will Armstead and our grave play,

544
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 4: I don't know, because last week they gave up eight

545
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 4: yards per carry to the Cardinals, which would be you know,

546
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 4: and then you have Lamar Jackson, which would be a

547
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 4: major path to success for the Ravens. Leonore rib injury.

548
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 4: He's such a big piece to this forty nine ers defense.

549
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 4: Early in the season, this forty nine Ers ded the

550
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 4: pass day in particular, had major, major issues and one

551
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 4: of the main culprits was Isaiah Oliver and you were

552
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,719
Speaker 4: able to get him out of the lineup. They made

553
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 4: a really smart change and they got Lenor in there

554
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 4: and he's been playing out of his mind.

555
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 1: If he can't play, then you know you're going back

556
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 1: to that.

557
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 4: You might go to all or you might go to

558
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 4: somebody else, and then your secondary, I think is back

559
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,479
Speaker 4: to that unit that had some holes early in the season.

560
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think that there's a couple of things

561
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 4: in play here. I think that this is gonna be

562
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 4: a really a fantastic game, and I think that the

563
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 4: forty nine ers are probably at the peak of their market.

564
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 4: They're I mean, look, they're they're laying five and a

565
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 4: half against the one seed in the AFC at home.

566
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 4: But it's John Harball okay. As an underdog, as a

567
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 4: Ravens fan, and as a better it's something that I

568
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 4: almost always bet. They're just such a well coached team.

569
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 4: They're always so well it doesn't even matter.

570
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 3: That they fired his brother. They fired his.

571
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,919
Speaker 4: Brother, Yeah, fired his brother. They but they always this

572
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 4: team will always be just so buttoned up for situations

573
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 4: like this. It doesn't matter the quarterback is. I remember

574
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,479
Speaker 4: lat year better than plus seven when they went into

575
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 4: Sincy with Huntley in the game. They should have won,

576
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,199
Speaker 4: should have beat Joe Burrow on the Bengals in the game,

577
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 4: but they fumbled at the end, but they still covered

578
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 4: for It's where Carball nineteen and four against the spread

579
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 4: as an underdog since twenty eighteen. Lamar Jackson who's nineteen

580
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 4: and one straight up against the NFC. You'll see that stat.

581
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 4: A ton part of that is, you know, they're just

582
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 4: much better than a lot of NFC teams. They're not

583
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 4: playing the forty nine Ers aver week. But there's also

584
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 4: just an adjustment when they play. You know, when you

585
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 4: see Lamar's speed at first, so that works in the

586
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 4: Ravens favor just early on in the game, and you

587
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 4: got to adjust to the angles when you're not used

588
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 4: to seeing him. But Lamar Jackson as an underdog or

589
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 4: favorite of less than a field goal is fifteen and

590
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 4: one against the spread. But this team, you look at,

591
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 4: the better defense, also, big kicker edge here, the better

592
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 4: special teams, and these injuries that San fran is dealing

593
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 4: with on the defensive end could end up making it

594
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 4: a bit easier for the Ravens. Now, I do think

595
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 4: that the Ravens defense is not going to shut down

596
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 4: the Ravens. Evens has been you know, dominant all year.

597
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 4: They face some beneficial a lot of official situations, backup quarterbacks,

598
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 4: injuries on offensive lines. Whether this forty nine ers offense

599
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 4: is just playing at a different level. I will say

600
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 4: that they have one of the best defensive coordinators in

601
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 4: the NFL. He changes up the looks every week. Maybe

602
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 4: he can confuse party into mistake or two. But I

603
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,239
Speaker 4: just think ultimately this game should be like I mean,

604
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 4: I make it three and a half's forty nine his

605
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 4: minus three and a half, and I'll ride with hardball

606
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 4: as an underdog, you know, catching five and a half

607
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 4: pretty much with anyone anywhere, any plays anytime. So yeah,

608
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 4: I just I just think this is too many points.

609
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 4: I think it'll be a great game. I think the

610
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 4: most likely result is forty nine Ers by three.

611
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 2: I mean, I mobile quarterbacks give most teams trouble, but

612
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 2: I mean that is I would say, over the year

613
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 2: somewhat of a kryptonite because the Niners, once they get

614
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 2: a lead, can overwhelm a guy who can't really move. Yeah,

615
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 2: and you know Kyler has given the Niners fits, you know,

616
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 2: over the year. So just it's just hard when you

617
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 2: get a guy that's that athletic and you can't just

618
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 2: your scheme is not guaranteed, even when you get it right,

619
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 2: to do anything right because he can play outside. The

620
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 2: other thing is, obviously the Ravens have really good d tackles, right,

621
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 2: so you know, you're not just and then it's not

622
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 2: like the Niners are rolling out Jason Kelcey and Larry Allen.

623
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 2: So I would imagine running it up the middle with

624
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 2: roquand it's going to be difficult, and then we Kyle

625
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 2: doesn't mind, he'll go to the edges. But if you

626
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 2: just sell out on that, you know, if you can

627
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 2: take away the only way to beat the forty nine ers,

628
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 2: you have to stifle the run because that fucks up

629
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 2: their whole thing. Kyle's wants to run it, and he'll

630
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 2: stick with it, unlike ninety nine point nine percent of

631
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 2: coaches in the modern day era. But like I would

632
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 2: imagine they will just they'll treat Christian McCaffrey like Belichick

633
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 2: treated Marshall Fulk in the Super Bowl or whatever. Just

634
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 2: take him out and that'll just kind of unravel him

635
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 2: and just hey, Purty, let's be the MVP. And uh,

636
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 2: that's where most of the teams the Niners have played

637
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 2: this year, beside the Browns, that one game just couldn't

638
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 2: match their physicality, and just the Ravens and the Jacks.

639
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 2: It was like it was a heavyweight fighter against a lightweight,

640
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 2: you know, because the Ravens like playing that physical style,

641
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 2: and uh, I don't know. I think it's gonna be.

642
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 2: I hope the Ravens come to you know, I know

643
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 2: they'll come to play, but just play well, because I

644
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: would love to see the Niners in a big, a

645
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 2: tight game Like it's it's kind of boring sometimes and

646
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 2: crazy to say watching them just like cruise to wins

647
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 2: because if you're gonna feel good, like they're the super

648
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 2: Bowl favorite for a reason. But like one of these

649
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 2: playoff games is gonna be tied going in the fourth quarter,

650
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 2: hell maybe even down, Like are they comfortable in that spot?

651
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 2: Is the quarterback comfortable in that spot against a really

652
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 2: good team? And I this is the Niners don't match

653
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 2: see they're equal often because teams just don't hit like them. Well,

654
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 2: the Browns did, and the Ravens do. The Cowboys in

655
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 2: theory should but like as you saw on Sunday, they

656
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,239
Speaker 2: just they don't all the time. The Eagles definitely are

657
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 2: not physical enough right on defense. And I think it's

658
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 2: gonna be. And like you said, coaching wise, is Mike

659
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 2: McDonald McDonald right is the defensive coordinator?

660
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Harball brothers have.

661
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 2: Shared like obviously that guy's big time, and todd Y

662
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 2: has been has been good this year, you know, I mean, fuck,

663
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 2: it's it's gone well.

664
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, McDonald's great. I think this is the as

665
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 4: of right now. And they always have to give a

666
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 4: lot of respect to Mahomes and and and you know,

667
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 4: but they're just there's they just look a little off

668
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 4: right now.

669
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: But you know, once they're.

670
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 3: What can you get this matchup? Super Bowl? Odds? Have

671
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 3: you have you looked ten to one.

672
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 4: Fifteen, and then I would say that, you know, the

673
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 4: one seed is also really important in the a f C.

674
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 4: And I'll pull it up right now.

675
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 2: But the Ravens, the Ravens have the Dolphins the following week.

676
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: Right, correct, Even if they lose this game.

677
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 3: Not the end of the world, because that's in Baltimore.

678
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 4: Correct, then they pretty much are playing. Let's see exact result.

679
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: Let's do.

680
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 4: Name the finalists. Ravens forty nine ers is five to one.

681
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 4: That's the favorite. The next is Chiefs forty nine ers

682
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 4: seven to one.

683
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 2: Ravens Bills might be a little tasty. I mean Niners Bills.

684
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 4: Niners Bills, That's what I was gonna say. The other

685
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 4: team that on as a Ravens said, I'm petrified of

686
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 4: is the Bills Bills Niners thirteen to one. I don't

687
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 4: mind that as a little flyer.

688
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 3: Do you think the Bills are winning the division?

689
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 4: It comes Wait, so they're one game another.

690
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 2: They need they need to win the next two and

691
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 2: it's the Chargers and the Patriots and Dolphins have the

692
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 2: Cowboys and the Ravens next two. So if they lose

693
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 2: one of those games Sunday, Week eighteen is for the division.

694
00:33:58,120 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I do.

695
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 4: Uh, the Bills match up really well with them, and

696
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 4: I think the Bills are going to beat them week eighteen.

697
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 4: So yeah, and I think I don't think that the

698
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 4: Dolphins are sweeping Dallas in Baltimore.

699
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 2: That'd be one of the wildest eleven and six seasons

700
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 2: we've seen since the seventeen game things started. The Bills

701
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 2: went eleven and six. At one point in time, they

702
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,760
Speaker 2: felt like they were going to go six and fucking eleven.

703
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, if they don't, then I feel bad

704
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 4: for the two, yeah, or three seed that has to

705
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:31,720
Speaker 4: play them in the first.

706
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 2: Well, honestly, the Browns and Bills would just be teams

707
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 2: like fuck, that's a tough first round and you look

708
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 2: across like someone gets Seattle in.

709
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 3: The first round. It's a little bit.

710
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're praying and hoping that the No disrespect to

711
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 4: Jake Browning, but like the Bengals, the Steelers, the Colts,

712
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 4: one of those teams can.

713
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 3: And now Jamar's out.

714
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 2: I mean that to me, the Bengals and their defense honestly,

715
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 2: like I'm on the j out for.

716
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: The year, he's player.

717
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 2: I think Tomlin like it's kind of time. I don't

718
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 2: know how he could possibly he loses with all the

719
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 2: guys that are missing. Now you can't beat him and

720
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 2: Jake brown just run circles around Trubisky, which he's clearly

721
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 2: a better player, Like, what are we doing?

722
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 3: What are we doing?

723
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's it's it's the end for Tomlin.

724
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 4: Although I will say one bonus bet for Saturday, I

725
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 4: did bet. I did bet to Steelers one last Tomlin barrosspot.

726
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 4: A lot of it has to do with the Bengals injuries,

727
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 4: no Chase and then DJ Reider in the middle. That's

728
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 4: just it's a massive loss. Steels should be able to

729
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 4: just run the ball here and Browning. The expiration date

730
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 4: is going to be up soon, So yeah, I did

731
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 4: bet the Steelers reluctantly, but sat.

732
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 2: I forget who was calling that game. But when he

733
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 2: got hurt, whoever the analyst was was, like Lou told

734
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 2: us in the meetings, he thought this guy was the

735
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 2: best guy hit doing his job in the NFL at

736
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 2: stopping the run, and clearly he was, I mean.

737
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 3: That's you lose.

738
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 2: Those guys, Yeah, you just that's fucking They play a

739
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 2: massive role because easier for your linebackers to just eat

740
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 2: up tackles.

741
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:09,720
Speaker 3: Look at the back, look at the the Ravens.

742
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 2: You saw the Niners, like they have elite linebackers, yet

743
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 2: you just you put me and you in there dtackle

744
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 2: Like I'm sorry, kin Law's getting driven back seven yards

745
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 2: either way. It's like it's easy to just get body

746
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 2: in front of Fred Warner, Drakereenlaw and you you slice

747
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 2: and dice them.

748
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, not only could you stop the run, but then

749
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 4: you know you're when you're when you're rushing the passer.

750
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 4: It's everything is easier. Yeah, for coverage is easier. So

751
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:36,280
Speaker 4: uh so I'll say forty nine Ers win by three.

752
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you. I think this.

753
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 2: I think this thing gets weird. I think this is

754
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 2: since the since the Browns the first team that when

755
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,919
Speaker 2: the Niners. You know, I think the Niners are gonna

756
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 2: come into this like they did the Eagle game or

757
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,959
Speaker 2: the Cowboy game. But I think this team can match

758
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 2: their physicality and I fully expect it to be a

759
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 2: close game headed in the fourth quarter. Yeah, and I

760
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 2: like the Niners, I mean at home, but by no

761
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 2: means like I don't. I wouldn't put my life savings

762
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 2: on it. Like I think you're taking the right tactic.

763
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 2: I definitely would not take them minus you know, five, six,

764
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 2: five and a half, whatever the number ends up at,

765
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 2: would not feel comfortable. And the one question with Brock

766
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 2: who I think listen the argument he's fucking good?

767
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's good. Is he a five hundred million dollar quarterback?

768
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 3: We don't have to do that yet. Is he as

769
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 3: good as Mahomes or Allen?

770
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: No?

771
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 3: Is he damn good? Yes?

772
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 2: But like he has to prove because he just hasn't

773
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 2: been in the situation when he has, he hasn't got

774
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 2: it done because he blow out everybody. What happens when

775
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 2: he's down three with five minutes left, and there, you know,

776
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 2: the Ravens take the lead twenty four to twenty one,

777
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 2: the Niners go, can he drive him right down against

778
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 2: a real, you know, a big time team. He did

779
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 2: it against He did it against the Browns.

780
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:47,919
Speaker 3: And Moody missed the kick.

781
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, and listen, I don't think he's not capable of it.

782
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 2: But like, part of it is you just have to

783
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 2: do it.

784
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, part of that just getting experience.

785
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 2: No different Lamar, Like Lamar has a lot to prove

786
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 2: in January, right, He's never played well.

787
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 3: Like, should the Ravens win the AFC? Yeah? Probably, but like,

788
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 3: would you bet your life savings on it? How could you?

789
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 2: It's not like you're betting on fucking l Way or

790
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 2: Brady here. Now he could be able to do it,

791
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 2: no problem. He's clearly way better than he's ever been.

792
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 2: It's like you watch him, you go, this is a

793
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 2: high level, elite player. But like there comes a pressure.

794
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 2: I used to be a huge Peyton Manning fan, like

795
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 2: when in the early two thousands, and he was fucking awesome.

796
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 2: And then you get there and you're like, god, wife's

797
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 2: Peyton look so tight? You know so, and I don't

798
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 2: expect Lamar to look tight, But it's part of you know,

799
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 2: it's what makes great players legends you got to do

800
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 2: it in the games when forty million people are watching

801
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 2: and it's winner go home. So I think I think

802
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 2: this is a great precursor for both these guys. You know,

803
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 2: it's just whoever wins this. And like even honestly, if

804
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 2: the Niners were to lose a close game or the

805
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 2: Ravens lose a close game, I think it's going.

806
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 3: To be one of those you hold your head high. Now.

807
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 2: If the Ravens were to lose by a lot, you know,

808
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 2: let's say double digits, I think everyone would just say,

809
00:38:58,600 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 2: no one can beat this team.

810
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, which I.

811
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 2: Think most people kind of lean now, But I think

812
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 2: that could easily change if the Ravens go toe to

813
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 2: toe with them and definitely beat them, You go, okay,

814
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 2: they are beatable.

815
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 4: I think if the Ravens win this game, then then

816
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,760
Speaker 4: I don't think the narrative will change around the forty.

817
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 3: Nine ers in you're the heavy favor in the NFC.

818
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: In the NFC, that won't change.

819
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 4: People will take the Ravens a little more serious, but

820
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 4: it'll be the conversation that'll be tabled until the Super Bowl.

821
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:30,879
Speaker 4: If the forty nine Ers make it that you will

822
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 4: hear about for two weeks is the AFC over NFC.

823
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:35,919
Speaker 4: So the sc has been really good against the NFC

824
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 4: this year. He saw the Bills against the Cowboys last week.

825
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 4: And then if the Raven's going to San fran that's

826
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 4: the narrative that I think will switch. But yeah, if

827
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:50,879
Speaker 4: the forty nine Ers win this game comfortably, then I mean.

828
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 2: What are we talking if they're in the Super Bowl

829
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 2: of seven point favorite minimum?

830
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah it could some odds makers.

831
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 2: When's the last time a line's been that big in

832
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl.

833
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 3: It's been a while.

834
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think back to, like, I know, pat like

835
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 4: the Patriots teams. Wait, you know ten fifteen years ago?

836
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 2: Maybe I think that I remember betting the Broncos against

837
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 2: Cam Newton.

838
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 3: They were like four I think.

839
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 4: Or the Falcons were four plus four and a half

840
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 4: against the Patriots. But yeah, it's maybe the Eagles against

841
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 4: the Patriots with Foles. Maybe they were maybe six seven

842
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 4: and I gotta go back them up. But yeah, some

843
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 4: oddsmakers right now have because I have the Niners won

844
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 4: the Ravens two my power ratings, but some oddsmakers I

845
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 4: don't have quite this high. Have the Niners five points better?

846
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 4: Than five five and a half points better than everyone

847
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,280
Speaker 4: else on a neutral field, which is crazy in NFL

848
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 4: to have one team that far.

849
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: That's like a college.

850
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 3: Yeah.

851
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 4: So yeah, and if they win this game then that

852
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 4: that's only going to give bump more. If if they win

853
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 4: this comfortably and goverment.

854
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, if they if they covered for sure, so well stuck.

855
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 2: You have a have a good Christmas break, enjoy everybody

856
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 2: in Philly, have a few cocktails and enjoy the games.

857
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll I'll be sure to fire off a few

858
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 4: uh eas to you during the Raven Signers game. Hopefully

859
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 4: it's a good one. Hopefully the ref stay out of it.

860
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 4: We don't get anyone suspended or for the year. Yeah,

861
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 4: let them let that game plans. I can't wait for it.

862
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 4: Should be a good one.

863
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, good luck to Merry Christmas and I'll see

864
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: you next week. The volume