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Speaker 2: On this Wednesday, people fired up a little bit over
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. Not who got in, but one
Speaker 2: voter didn't vote for each year row, so he didn't
Speaker 2: get the perfect ballot.
Speaker 3: Mike.
Speaker 4: Only Mariano Rivera did.
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Speaker 2: Each euro Billy Wagner CC Sabathia going into the Hall
Speaker 2: of Fame, the Bears will introduce their new head coach,
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson. I'm anxious to just see how he is
Speaker 2: answering questions. I don't think I've ever seen him interviewed,
Speaker 2: and with assistant coaches or coordinators, they don't get interviewed,
Speaker 2: and that's probably a great thing. You go to work,
Speaker 2: and you get to go to work. You don't have
Speaker 2: to deal with all the other ancillary stuff. But now
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson, does the vikings extend to their head coach
Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell. There was talk that maybe he could be traded.
Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell joins one other coach as the only coaches
Speaker 2: since nineteen fifty to have two thirteen win seasons in
Speaker 2: a span of three years with two different starting quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: The other coach is in a shadow of a great,
Speaker 2: great coach. The two quarterbacks are Hall of Famers Marvin
Speaker 2: George Seffert Bloop bloop bloop. George Seaford had Joe Montana
Speaker 2: and Steve Young. Kevin O'Connell had Kirk Cousins and Sam Darnold.
Speaker 2: Similar issue four Hall of Famers. Yeah, I saw a
Speaker 2: report yesterday and I tried to follow up on this,
Speaker 2: but I didn't hear back from a source.
Speaker 4: Sam Darnold and the Raiders question Mark.
Speaker 2: We talked about that maybe you're going to bring in
Speaker 2: a bridge quarterback here, and you know, I don't know
Speaker 2: what he's going to costume. Maybe you get a respectable
Speaker 2: number there for Sam Darnold and he's your quarterback with
Speaker 2: the Raiders. Raiders did lose out on Ben Johnson, and
Speaker 2: now what's planned being that'll be interesting because Brady loses
Speaker 2: out on Brabele loses out on Ben Johnson, and I say,
Speaker 2: you know he lost out on them reportedly. I know
Speaker 2: that he spent an hour with a zoom call with
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson, and I think that surprised a lot of
Speaker 2: people that Ben Johnson was going to go to the Bears.
Speaker 2: He was going to go to the Bears so stay
Speaker 2: in the division against his former team Detroit. But I
Speaker 2: think he looked at which team is ready to win
Speaker 2: or closer to win, and certainly it's the Bears. So
Speaker 2: whole question Seaton for the second hour of the program.
Speaker 2: By the way, Cowboys, Jags, Jets, Raiders, Saints still open
Speaker 2: for business.
Speaker 5: Yeah, right now, for the first hour we had up there,
Speaker 5: Hall of Fame voting should be public or private? Right now?
Speaker 5: About staying firm at ninety percent? Want at public. I'm
Speaker 5: curious why people want it private. Why you wouldn't want
Speaker 5: to know?
Speaker 2: CC Sabbathia will join us in about fifteen minutes or so.
Speaker 2: Joe Thomas, Hall of Famer for the Browns, will join
Speaker 2: us a little bit later on as well. All right,
Speaker 2: So poll question for hour two.
Speaker 5: Sorry, did you want to do the one that I
Speaker 5: threw out there earlier about coaching legacy or did you
Speaker 5: say that was our three. Man, I hate waiting till
Speaker 5: our three because it's a great question. I'm going to
Speaker 5: throw it up there anyway, and why not? Okay, your
Speaker 5: options are Dan Quinn, he would obviously take a big
Speaker 5: jump off.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be a bit.
Speaker 5: That would be a big, big jump after what happened
Speaker 5: against the Patriots in Atlanta. I'm going to put Andy
Speaker 5: Reid on there because even though he's got some rings,
Speaker 5: he could be if he was to get this one.
Speaker 5: He's looking at greatest of all time conversation. He's certainly
Speaker 5: getting a lot closer, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think Steve Spagnolo goes on there, Spags, Spags. He
Speaker 5: could end up becoming a Hall of Famer strictly by
Speaker 5: being a coordinator. And I don't I don't know if
Speaker 5: there's any coordinators that are in the Hall of Fame
Speaker 5: that did it because of their career as a coordinator.
Speaker 3: Didn't.
Speaker 2: The Steelers have a coordinator who went in, but he's
Speaker 2: a former player, yeah, Marv dick Lebou.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know if he went in as a
Speaker 6: player or a coach. I'm not sure.
Speaker 4: Well, No, I think the combination, I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 2: If he went in because he was a defensive back
Speaker 2: in the NFL and then a long, long time coordinator.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know how many coordinators have gone
Speaker 2: into the Hall of Fame, but I would think Spags
Speaker 2: is going to have to go in because he dials
Speaker 2: things up. No other defensive coordinator dials things up like
Speaker 2: Spags does.
Speaker 4: Yes, Todd not.
Speaker 6: Then it's Todd Munkin.
Speaker 7: Isn't believe about Todd Munkin.
Speaker 6: If you haven't heard any.
Speaker 2: Munking the most mentioned coordinators, Todd Munkin is up there
Speaker 2: with Spags. If Kirk Kurbstreet's doing the game, chances are
Speaker 2: Todd Munkin might get mentioned as much as the quarterback.
Speaker 4: Yes, Seaton.
Speaker 5: I don't know that there's any other coaches that go
Speaker 5: on this list. Is Sean McDermott. I know he could
Speaker 5: get a ring.
Speaker 6: That's great.
Speaker 5: I don't feel like it jumps him up into like
Speaker 5: another level though necessarily or at least that's not the
Speaker 5: way things seem to be talked about now. And Nick
Speaker 5: Sirianni too, I don't know.
Speaker 4: That he has a.
Speaker 5: Luch bumping I think he could use one. Oh no, okay,
Speaker 5: everybody could use one. Everybody could use one. I just
Speaker 5: don't know how much more it really does for him necessarily.
Speaker 2: I think I think there's a coronation there, like Sean McDermott.
Speaker 2: We go, Hey, he's pretty good. But then it feels
Speaker 2: like every other year you're like, man, should they stay
Speaker 2: with Sean McDermott if he'd win a Super Bowl?
Speaker 4: I don't know, it just kind of validates. It's just
Speaker 4: like you won a super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Like Mike McCarthy, Mike Tomlin, Sean Payton, you won a
Speaker 2: super Bowl, Sean McVay, you want a super Bowl. You're
Speaker 2: just you're in the club and you might only get
Speaker 2: to be on the ground level. Maybe you don't get
Speaker 2: to go up to the penthouse, but you're still in.
Speaker 2: And I would say Sean McDermott went Sirianni. Absolutely. I
Speaker 2: think that would be like, all right, this guy is real,
Speaker 2: like he's he is our future, because it feels like
Speaker 2: that's been kind of up and down where it's like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, do you keep him, Hey, get rid
Speaker 2: of the coordinators? Are right, they're going to keep the coach.
Speaker 2: Then he brings in really good coordinators. Now all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, Nick Sirianni's up back and he's a good coach.
Speaker 4: Yeah, seton.
Speaker 5: But it feels like there are some people who, no
Speaker 5: matter how well they play or how well things go,
Speaker 5: there's always the question mark, like we'll just stay in Philadelphia.
Speaker 5: Nobody's sure if Jalen Hurts is still the guy. He's
Speaker 5: still performing at a pretty high level, a super Bowl
Speaker 5: caliber level, but people are still not sure if he's
Speaker 5: the guy. There doesn't really matter what he does that
Speaker 5: there's gonna it feels like there's gonna be question marks. Okay,
Speaker 5: who could use the super Bowl more? Jalen Hurts or
Speaker 5: Nick Siriani. Boh, there you go to get it bang?
Speaker 8: Yes, Marvin, And with Sirianni, that doesn't mean anything for
Speaker 8: job security if he wins the super Bowl, because look
Speaker 8: at Doug Peterson, he won a super Bowl, he was
Speaker 8: out in two years. There really doesn't mean anything. It's like, oh,
Speaker 8: it's super Bowl winning coach, but he could be out
Speaker 8: in two years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you could be on scholarship for a little
Speaker 2: while longer. Doug Peterson got a job in Jacksonville because
Speaker 2: he won a super Bowl in Philadelphia.
Speaker 8: But the team that you won a super Bowl with
Speaker 8: got rid of you? Who seasons after? I thought, you
Speaker 8: win a Super Bowl A, you give me at least
Speaker 8: three seasons of ineptitude?
Speaker 4: Yeah, anptitude, yes, PAULI.
Speaker 9: I was looking at Andy Reid. He's got three if
Speaker 9: he won another. Clearly I did the math. He'd be
Speaker 9: up to four before ty with Chuck Noll. But would
Speaker 9: that make him more likely to retire or more likely
Speaker 9: to stave off retirement because you're two behind Bill Belichick?
Speaker 2: Well, I wouldn't worry about Belichick. I'd worry about Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 2: As long as Mahomes is Mahomes. Why would I leave
Speaker 2: right right?
Speaker 9: Some people? I saw a report that like, not a report.
Speaker 9: If Andy Reid wins a third, what a great time
Speaker 9: to get out just a story.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're talking about Jason Kelcey. I could see
Speaker 2: Kelsey retiring. Travis Kelcey, I could see him retire, but
Speaker 2: not Andy Reid, Like.
Speaker 4: What else are you gonna do?
Speaker 2: I don't think they're asking you do commercials when you're retired,
Speaker 2: But I don't know.
Speaker 4: Look at what you've done.
Speaker 2: I would stay. I got Mahomes, that's all I need.
Speaker 2: And I got Chris Jones.
Speaker 4: I'm good.
Speaker 2: Andy sixty six, he's still got six more years.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't. I wouldn't walk away from that, No way.
Speaker 9: Yes, but it's such a cool move you walk away, well,
Speaker 9: I know, you leave a lot.
Speaker 4: It's cool until you walk away.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I'm going a and I'm going to retire
Speaker 2: in three years, and then that first day after retirement,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go, oh no, what did I just do.
Speaker 4: So it's cool until it's not cool.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 5: If the Chiefs win the Super Bowl this year and
Speaker 5: Andy Reid retires, do you want that job?
Speaker 4: Yes, because I still have Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 5: I don't know. I'm a year older that Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 5: You don't have Travis Kelcey. You don't have any of
Speaker 5: the other things that made him good, and you now
Speaker 5: have to be the guy that, Okay, match those three
Speaker 5: in a row or it's a failure.
Speaker 2: And I don't have Taylor Swift. If I don't have
Speaker 2: Travis Goil, I would have Caitlyn Clark. Though I would
Speaker 2: have Caitlin Clark show.
Speaker 5: Up all of a sudden, she figured out that's chefs
Speaker 5: fanad Ink.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Chris Russo on yesterday, not realizing that
Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark is a lifelong Kansas City chief fan.
Speaker 5: You mean, for some reason, she wasn't able to automate,
Speaker 5: like instantly pull up a picture from when she was
Speaker 5: six years old in a Chief's uniform.
Speaker 2: Just had that one on stand by, Yes, yes, yes, PAULI,
Speaker 2: because that story got a lot of clicks.
Speaker 9: The Russo Caitlyn Clark on our show thing yesterday got
Speaker 9: picked up by sports media all over the world, like
Speaker 9: the Daily Mail in London. Of course that story. Of
Speaker 9: course even London were dying for that story.
Speaker 4: Yes, of course.
Speaker 2: Now, Ross Tucker ran into Caitlyn Clark at the Chiefs
Speaker 2: game last week and he said, Hey, I'm Ross Tucker.
Speaker 4: Blah blah blah. She knew that he was on our
Speaker 4: show and said, tell the guys that I.
Speaker 5: Said, eloous, Yes it is, thank you, thank you to
Speaker 5: very excited.
Speaker 4: Yeah. AnyWho.
Speaker 2: A couple of phone calls in here Aiden in Utah, Hi, Aiden,
Speaker 2: what's going on today?
Speaker 3: Add?
Speaker 10: I wanted to give my take on the cheese. Right,
Speaker 10: I'm not sick of them winning. I'm annoyed of it.
Speaker 10: I'm a Broncos fan. Is annoying watching them win? Well,
Speaker 10: like what annoys me?
Speaker 3: More is.
Speaker 10: And I'm sure you don't see this because you're not
Speaker 10: on social media, but after every single win, it's it
Speaker 10: was the Chiefs and Rets versus this team, or the
Speaker 10: refs have three rings, or you know, it's all the
Speaker 10: credit goes to the referees and none of it goes
Speaker 10: to Pout Mahomes and how Raton or yes, they get help,
Speaker 10: but that's not the reason they win every single game.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they get help as much as
Speaker 2: we see every time they get help. We're watching their
Speaker 2: games because they always are. They're a marquee draw and
Speaker 2: therefore you're not watching every other game of every other
Speaker 2: team where you go, Oh, I can't believe Matthew Stafford
Speaker 2: got that call what could have been a game against Seattle,
Speaker 2: and it's not shown nationally. The Chiefs games are on nationally.
Speaker 2: It's a big deal and therefore we see this happen. Now.
Speaker 2: Do I think Patrick Mahomes flaunts the rules of protecting
Speaker 2: a quarterback? I do, but it's gamesmanship. If you can
Speaker 2: get away with it, you do until you can't. It's
Speaker 2: like James I remember Tim Hardaway would push off with
Speaker 2: his right arm and create separation. Well, they let him
Speaker 2: do it until they said, hey, you can't push off
Speaker 2: James Harden trying to take advantage of the rules.
Speaker 4: It happens.
Speaker 2: When we first saw Ginobili take the euro step, We're like,
Speaker 2: that's traveling, that's traveling. But he was able to get
Speaker 2: away with something. Now everybody comps, you know, the euro
Speaker 2: step there and mahomes Is. He knows he's going to
Speaker 2: get favorable treatment. He knows that until they change that,
Speaker 2: he'll continue to flaunt that. I do I knock him
Speaker 2: for that? Or do I knock the NFL and the officials.
Speaker 2: Do I knock Taylor Swift or the networks for showing
Speaker 2: Taylor's swift? So I think our anger is directed in
Speaker 2: the wrong, you know, in the wrong direction. It's Taylor
Speaker 2: Swift shows up. She doesn't say I'm going to show up.
Speaker 2: I need at least five on camera appearances and let
Speaker 2: me know so I can comb my hair. She can't
Speaker 2: sit in section three hundred with Jimmy Lipper and Tommy Kalamari.
Speaker 2: You can't tell me Klamari, Jimmy Skunjeal and Tommy Klamari
Speaker 2: sitting next to her.
Speaker 4: She can't do that. Yes, Todd, I think we.
Speaker 7: Should be angry at all the other teams in the NFL,
Speaker 7: namely the American Football Conference for allowing the chief seven
Speaker 7: straight years. In this era where players are bouncing back
Speaker 7: and forth and it's hard to keep guys together. How
Speaker 7: could a team seven straight years get to the AFC
Speaker 7: title game and no other team can figure out a
Speaker 7: way to stop that. That's what we should be angry.
Speaker 3: Thank you to back to you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you start to beat the Chiefs, they won't
Speaker 2: be on as often. Just letting everybody know. If you
Speaker 2: beat them, then they're not playing for championships, so they're
Speaker 2: not advancing in the playoffs. That'd be a good way
Speaker 2: to keep Taylor Swift off your TV set, or Caitlin
Speaker 2: Clark or Andy Reid or Mahomes and Kelsey. It's a dynasty.
Speaker 2: We get tired of dynasties after a while. And they're
Speaker 2: not that formidable offense the way they were when they
Speaker 2: were really dynamic, they were exciting. They're boring. Now they're
Speaker 2: boringly great. You don't get style points. This isn't college football.
Speaker 4: You just win.
Speaker 2: And it's just like the Patriots, they had style points.
Speaker 2: We got Randy moss Worth scoring and then all of
Speaker 2: a sudden they got shut down on the Super Bowl,
Speaker 2: and then they had years where they were boring, boringly great,
Speaker 2: and they would win Super Bowls Kansas City. It's a dynasty.
Speaker 2: They all come to an end. But appreciate it. I'm
Speaker 2: not going to say enjoy it, but appreciate it because
Speaker 2: these things don't happen. There's only one Chicago Bulls in
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan, where we were fascinated with them. I don't
Speaker 2: think we ever. They were never out of favor. They
Speaker 2: were always interesting, they were always fascinating. Now, if Patrick
Speaker 2: Mahomes decides to play baseball like Michael did, all right,
Speaker 2: then if he says, I'm going to take a couple
Speaker 2: of years off, I'm going to let Josh Allen or
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow win a Super Bowl here and then I'll
Speaker 2: come back, I'm back.
Speaker 4: Yes, Paul.
Speaker 9: It is crazy for you to say that out loud,
Speaker 9: because Michael Jordan did that at the peak of his powers.
Speaker 9: If that happened today, if you said, hey, here's something
Speaker 9: that could happen. Patrick Mahomes, the best player in the sport,
Speaker 9: is going to give it up to play baseball. And
Speaker 9: he has a baseball background, Yeah, it would.
Speaker 2: Be unless maybe he was under suspicion of gambling or something,
Speaker 2: you know, like Michael maybe.
Speaker 4: That you know, people have said that I'm distancing myself there.
Speaker 4: Todd will be like, we'll never get Jordan on now.
Speaker 6: Every time we.
Speaker 7: Make some got a negative coming out of my house
Speaker 7: is gonna affect me and doing with the ploper.
Speaker 5: What are the current odds though, of us getting Michael
Speaker 5: Jordan on the show before I retire.
Speaker 9: We're at percent. Yeah, it was twenty five percent two years.
Speaker 2: Ago, so it's sort of like a potential Hall of Famer. Correct,
Speaker 2: Like I'm getting thirty percent of the vote right now.
Speaker 2: Pauli's corresponded, let me take a break. We will get
Speaker 2: to a Hall of Famer. CC Sabbathia more phone calls
Speaker 2: coming up. We'll take a break. We're back after this.
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Speaker 2: I'm looking at a picture of the New Orleans Superdome.
Speaker 2: There's a bunch of snow there today. That's where the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl is gonna beat now granted, not playing outdoors,
Speaker 2: but uh, there's snow in New Orleans.
Speaker 4: I got all these friends.
Speaker 2: I got a friend in Savannah, friend in Atlanta, friend
Speaker 2: in Houston. They're like, we don't even have a snowplow.
Speaker 2: This is the city. Doesn't have a snowplow. I got snow.
Speaker 2: It's called a shovel. Go get one. Toughing up a
Speaker 2: little bit there. He is a former All conference tight
Speaker 2: end in high school, former Milwaukee Brewer great, and now
Speaker 2: a Hall of Famer. C. C. Sabbathia, Congratulations, thank you,
Speaker 2: thank you. What kind of tight end were you?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 4: You know what? What who did you pattern your game after?
Speaker 4: In high school?
Speaker 3: I was not a blocking tight end.
Speaker 12: I was more of a I need I need at
Speaker 12: least three balls throwing my way a half before I can,
Speaker 12: you know, start blocking. My model was no rock, no block,
Speaker 12: no rock, no block.
Speaker 5: Did you think about playing in college?
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 12: I really wanted to. I really wanted to play football.
Speaker 12: That was that was my first love. I really enjoyed
Speaker 12: playing football. But I but I know, like my body type.
Speaker 12: Since I would have got to college, they would have
Speaker 12: turned me into office at tackle right away. So I
Speaker 12: mean hopefully it filled. Hopefully it would have paid off.
Speaker 12: But yeah, I mean I would have loved to been
Speaker 12: been able to have a chance to go to college
Speaker 12: to play football.
Speaker 2: How many pairs of pants do you have for your
Speaker 2: playing days? I love, I'd love to get a pair
Speaker 2: of those those pants.
Speaker 12: Man, You know what, I honestly I probably have a
Speaker 12: couple of pairs. They put it, they put They put
Speaker 12: a few on my locker when I go back for
Speaker 12: spring training now, just for just for fun, I can
Speaker 12: get both legs and one and one and one leg now.
Speaker 2: But what made you go to those large, you know,
Speaker 2: baggy pants.
Speaker 3: You know what?
Speaker 12: It was just me wanting to like represent myself. You know,
Speaker 12: it was the hat being tilted sideways. When I first
Speaker 12: came up, the pants had to be super tight like that.
Speaker 12: You know, everybody were the uniform super small and super tight,
Speaker 12: and they had the lastic at the bottom. And once
Speaker 12: I got a little older and a little established in
Speaker 12: the league, I was like, I want to kind of
Speaker 12: represent how I want to look on the field. And
Speaker 12: it was the back with the big jerseys and everybody
Speaker 12: was wearing the throwback, so I adopted the big pants.
Speaker 12: I tilted my hat to the side or where the
Speaker 12: big My jersey was always my sleeves are always a
Speaker 12: lot longer than everybody else's, and it was just kind
Speaker 12: of my style. And it's a funny story about that.
Speaker 12: One time Russell Bringion when I was in Cleveland, wore
Speaker 12: my pants in Kansas City and George Brett came down
Speaker 12: and like lit him up totally.
Speaker 3: We looked like a clown, all this stuff he was.
Speaker 12: Represent to making the big game look bad and all
Speaker 12: these different things.
Speaker 5: It was.
Speaker 3: It was hilarious. But yeah, I have a few pairs
Speaker 3: I can send you something.
Speaker 2: What about the hat though, when you wore the hat
Speaker 2: to the side, what kind of reaction did you get.
Speaker 12: Early in my career, not a good reaction obviously, as
Speaker 12: you know how the big leagues are with the unwritten rules,
Speaker 12: and you know, just being a young guy I was.
Speaker 12: I was twenty years old in that clubhouse when I
Speaker 12: first came up, So I was the youngest guy. The
Speaker 12: next oldest guy on that team was, you know, twenty six,
Speaker 12: twenty seven, so it was even hard to you know,
Speaker 12: for guys to relate to me. So yeah, I mean
Speaker 12: it was just my thing. It was, you know, me
Speaker 12: wearing my hat way to the side and going to
Speaker 12: grab the ball with my hand from the third basement
Speaker 12: after every out. Was just kind of what two of
Speaker 12: those things that I wanted to be mine and I
Speaker 12: was able to carry that for you know, through my
Speaker 12: career for nineteen years.
Speaker 4: Okay, but just chilting your hat to the sign.
Speaker 2: Was that something that your boys did, like guys you
Speaker 2: hung around with, Well, no, you know what.
Speaker 12: So when I when I was in high school, my
Speaker 12: high school coach, he would get on me about the
Speaker 12: way I wore my hat because scouts would show up
Speaker 12: at the field so early, so they would watch. I
Speaker 12: would always have my hat on backwards or you know,
Speaker 12: propped up on my head and you know, just walking
Speaker 12: to the park. So he would always get on me about,
Speaker 12: you know, the way I looked, the way I you know,
Speaker 12: represented myself walking, you know, with scouts walking around. So
Speaker 12: after I got drafted and you know, I felt like
Speaker 12: I was established, I was like, I'm were on my
Speaker 12: had however I want to however I want to wear it.
Speaker 4: Looks like Ken Griffy Junior when he had his hat backwards.
Speaker 5: All the baseball purists like, you're disrespecting the game.
Speaker 12: Yeah, no, I mean, it's just a thing that you know,
Speaker 12: and you know, other guys started adopting. You know, Fernando
Speaker 12: Rodney came up. He was wearing his hat to the side.
Speaker 12: Don Treelle Willis came up. We're from that same you
Speaker 12: know area. We've been knowing each other forever. He was
Speaker 12: wearing his hat to the side. So it became a thing.
Speaker 12: And and uh, you know, I'm glad I stuck with it.
Speaker 3: Honestly.
Speaker 2: You' cce Sabbathia freshly minted Hall of Famer. Where were
Speaker 2: you when you got the call?
Speaker 3: I was here. I was home.
Speaker 12: You know, we we had a bunch of people over
Speaker 12: and Baseball Hall of Fame is you know, it's it's
Speaker 12: a tricky thing. You don't know if you're gonna get
Speaker 12: that call or that. So we had a big party
Speaker 12: last night. And it could have been, you know, a
Speaker 12: big party where it could have been you know, made
Speaker 12: forget TV, or you know, it made for you know,
Speaker 12: a good celebration last night. But you know, I wanted
Speaker 12: everybody around whether I got the call or not last night.
Speaker 12: It's just special being on the ballot. I know how
Speaker 12: hard it is to get into the Baseball Hall of Fame,
Speaker 12: being you know, just a sports fan in general and
Speaker 12: understanding sports.
Speaker 3: So it was a special moment for us.
Speaker 4: Did you cry?
Speaker 3: I haven't yet, but you know.
Speaker 12: Like I see different things that I get on the
Speaker 12: verge of crying and then somebody texting me or somebody
Speaker 12: calls it.
Speaker 3: I've been so busy, you.
Speaker 12: Know, with with you know, planning and you know, we're
Speaker 12: driving up the Cooperstown in an hour and all these
Speaker 12: different things. I think I haven't had a chance to
Speaker 12: really sit down and process it yet.
Speaker 4: Which it mean though, to go in first ballance it means.
Speaker 3: I mean, it means a lot.
Speaker 12: I mean, and like we like I just said, you know,
Speaker 12: understanding you know, Baseball Hall and understanding just a Hall
Speaker 12: of Fame in general. I don't think ten years ago,
Speaker 12: I don't think I'll go in as a first ballot
Speaker 12: Hall of Famer. You know, I think, you know, the
Speaker 12: way the writers have looked at the game and you know,
Speaker 12: the way the game has changed has allowed me to
Speaker 12: be a first ballot Hall of Famer, which is awesome
Speaker 12: to me. And and uh, you know now I look
Speaker 12: at you know, myself, and somebody like you know, justin Verlander,
Speaker 12: Max scherz Er, you know, Greenky. You know, we're kind
Speaker 12: of starters. You know, we're dying breed, you know. So
Speaker 12: you know, I feel like, you know, all those guys
Speaker 12: I just named the going first ballot.
Speaker 4: Too, and Kershaw as well, but.
Speaker 2: You're Kershaw too. I'm sorry, Yeah, but you're talking about that.
Speaker 2: You had thirty eight career complete games. Guys won't come
Speaker 2: close to that, and then pitching and have three thousand
Speaker 2: strikeouts and two hundred and felt like it's almost like
Speaker 2: the running back where we got to the point where
Speaker 2: we devalued the running back. Now the running back came back,
Speaker 2: but the analytics has changed everything, and I don't know
Speaker 2: how analytics may have helped you be a first ballot
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I think, I mean, I think there'll be a
Speaker 12: lot more guys with you know, one hundred and fifty
Speaker 12: wins and three thousand strikeouts. You know, if you think,
Speaker 12: I think there'll be a lot more guys because if
Speaker 12: you look at it, the guys guys strack out two
Speaker 12: hundred and fifty and fifty guys a year now or
Speaker 12: you know, getting close to three hundred strikeout to the
Speaker 12: year just because you know, hitters don't care about striking out,
Speaker 12: so I think we'll get guys with three thousand strikeouts.
Speaker 12: I think it'll be harder to get guys to two
Speaker 12: hundred wins. And as far as analytics for me, I
Speaker 12: mean yeah, I mean I think they helped in you know,
Speaker 12: I think they helped me get into the Hall of
Speaker 12: Fame obviously, like I said, because of you know, the
Speaker 12: dying Breeders starters. But while I was playing, you know,
Speaker 12: it was hard to you know, transition to you know,
Speaker 12: this this world of analytics and you know, trying to
Speaker 12: understand that they want you to just throw your best
Speaker 12: pitch over and over and over again, where you know,
Speaker 12: I understand you need to set up you know, hitters
Speaker 12: to be able to you know, trick them with your
Speaker 12: best pitch. So you know, it was it was tough
Speaker 12: at the end of my career, you know, trying to
Speaker 12: pitch with analytics, but you know, being outsided out of
Speaker 12: the game and understanding analytics, I understand, you know, there's
Speaker 12: a need for it in the game.
Speaker 4: How did you do against each yi roll?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you know what, I honestly don't know.
Speaker 12: I bet you each year old has a good career,
Speaker 12: batting bad batting against me. Somebody told me last night
Speaker 12: that he was my thousand strikeout though, so that's pretty cool.
Speaker 12: But I got a cool story. I mean, two thousand
Speaker 12: and six, I was struggling trying to figure out I
Speaker 12: needed a putout pitch. So we're trying to figure out.
Speaker 12: I was trying to, you know, how to learn how
Speaker 12: to throw a cutter. Carl Willis and I went down
Speaker 12: to the bullpen in Oakland and he showed me a
Speaker 12: grip of how he threw his cutter. And I came
Speaker 12: out of that bullpen with like an eighty two eighty
Speaker 12: three mile an hour slider that I started throwing, and
Speaker 12: I was like, oh, this thing is nasty. I can't
Speaker 12: wait till my next start. We go from Oakland and Seattle.
Speaker 12: Next time I get into a game, I take it
Speaker 12: out there, and the first time I throw it in
Speaker 12: the game, each row hit it off the window.
Speaker 3: In my mind, I'm like, oh no, it's just easy.
Speaker 12: Like it's good because I'm getting out putt and I'm
Speaker 12: getting strikes with and I'm like, no, it's good.
Speaker 3: He comes up the next time he hits it out again.
Speaker 4: Who is the guy though that you could never figure out.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 12: Man, it was a bunch. But I think Evan Longoria
Speaker 12: was a guy that I'll be staying on the mout
Speaker 12: be like, Man, I'm just I can't.
Speaker 3: I got nothing for you but him.
Speaker 12: Manny Ramirez, you know, uh, Miguel Cabrera, you know, just
Speaker 12: those quiet, right handed hitters that uh you know see
Speaker 12: the strikes on.
Speaker 4: Well, who's going to help you with your speech?
Speaker 12: I think everybody's gonna help me with my speech, you know,
Speaker 12: I mean anybody that knows me. You know, I hate
Speaker 12: standing up in front of people and you know, kind
Speaker 12: of public speaking. So I'm gonna pull inspiration from everybody.
Speaker 12: But I want to I want to make sure I
Speaker 12: get it right. I want to make sure, you know,
Speaker 12: I get I named the right people and and uh
Speaker 12: you know, get people their just due because it wasn't
Speaker 12: just me, you know the reason why. You know, I'm
Speaker 12: going to Cooper shown as a Yankee, hopefully as a Yankee, Yes,
Speaker 12: as a Yankee.
Speaker 2: Should the ballot be made public, the writers one one
Speaker 2: person didn't vote for each your roll?
Speaker 12: Uh you know what, I don't think, So, I mean
Speaker 12: I don't I don't like you know, worrying about who
Speaker 12: didn't vote for who. I mean, it's you know, he's
Speaker 12: in the Hall of Fame now, so what difference does
Speaker 12: it make? You know, we spend so much time, you know,
Speaker 12: worried about the negative and you know why he didn't
Speaker 12: vote for eachiro. But let's talk about the three hundred
Speaker 12: and ninety five votes he did get and you know,
Speaker 12: him going to Cooperstown because he's well deserving of it.
Speaker 12: So you know, it's you know, it's just a you know,
Speaker 12: something that you know in baseball we all all worry about.
Speaker 12: In the other sports, it doesn't matter, right, it doesn't
Speaker 12: matter what present of the vote you get. Once you
Speaker 12: go in, you're in. So you know, it kind of
Speaker 12: is what it is.
Speaker 4: Best player you played with in your career was who
Speaker 4: ay Rod?
Speaker 3: Wow? That was quick?
Speaker 12: Oh yeah, why give Robbie Alamar a close second?
Speaker 4: Really?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: So what was it about a Rod that you take
Speaker 4: him over everybody else?
Speaker 12: I mean, obviously just the talent that you know, I mean,
Speaker 12: you know, six ' three, you know, third basement shortstop
Speaker 12: at the time. You know, when I when I was
Speaker 12: coming up the third basement of the time I played
Speaker 12: with him, but his baseball IQ.
Speaker 3: His IQ was off the charge, the way he watches
Speaker 3: the game, the way you said.
Speaker 12: You're sitting next to him on the bench, and you know,
Speaker 12: he'd be like, Oh, we need to hit and run here,
Speaker 12: Oh we need to double steal, or oh this team
Speaker 12: is going to do this. He watches the game at
Speaker 12: a different level than we all watched the game. And
Speaker 12: you know, having a chance to play with him and
Speaker 12: have him at third base, there'd be times when you know,
Speaker 12: a guy be coming up and he'd be like, hey,
Speaker 12: you know, throw a change up right here, this guy
Speaker 12: swinging first pitch, or you know this guy you know
Speaker 12: he may be taking right here. So he would be,
Speaker 12: you know, just watching the game and the IQ and
Speaker 12: obviously putting the talent with that. You know, he was
Speaker 12: the best player that I that I've ever got a
Speaker 12: chance to be up close to.
Speaker 4: Did you ever get to socialize with Jeter?
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, I'm really close with Jeter. He was actually
Speaker 3: just calling me right now.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, he's upset that you said a Rod
Speaker 2: over Jeter. But did you go out in New York? Like,
Speaker 2: what what was it like when Jeter was out?
Speaker 11: Uh?
Speaker 12: I mean it was It's always a lot of fun
Speaker 12: to go out with Jet and hang out with because
Speaker 12: he takes all the attention, so like I can just
Speaker 12: kind of like hang out and slide in and nobody's
Speaker 12: gonna ask autographs or pictures or anything. And he just
Speaker 12: kind of ride his coattail. So uh yeah, I mean
Speaker 12: he was he was always really cool. I mean as
Speaker 12: soon as I got here to New York, uh that
Speaker 12: first bring training, me and him, Posada, you know all
Speaker 12: the guys, we got really close, and I think that
Speaker 12: was the reason why we were able to win right away.
Speaker 2: But you didn't sit there and go, who's uh Jeter dating? Now,
Speaker 2: like who's who's that? Who's like his lineup card at
Speaker 2: Yankee Stadium?
Speaker 3: Oh no, that had nothing to do with me.
Speaker 2: But as an innocent bystander, you have to be like,
Speaker 2: h it looks like, oh that is that's a favorite
Speaker 2: famous act. Jeter is definitely gonna be calling you now hey,
Speaker 2: uh congratulations, Uh and uh, don't be afraid. Don't be
Speaker 2: afraid to a mote you know, you cry.
Speaker 4: We're right there with you.
Speaker 3: I appreciate it. Thank you, DP all right.
Speaker 4: At c C Sabbathia.
Speaker 2: Now, if he cries, I'm going to say that he's
Speaker 2: crying for me, just because that's what you do, because
Speaker 2: I cry all the time. Hall of Famer CC Sabbathia
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty went. When he was with Milwaukee,
Speaker 2: I think he was there for seventeen games three months.
Speaker 2: He had seventeen starts. I think he might have been
Speaker 2: eleven and two or something, eleven and two and like
Speaker 2: eight eight complete games, something like that. Seven complete games.
Speaker 2: They used him, they knew they weren't going to keep him,
Speaker 2: and it's like, hey, you're a rental. We're gonna use
Speaker 2: you until you go to the Yankees. Yes, Paulie.
Speaker 9: Yeah, Cleveland traded him in the middle of the season
Speaker 9: in two thousand and eight. He joins Milwaukee seventeen starts,
Speaker 9: eleven and two, one point six five ERA, seven complete games,
Speaker 9: three shoutouts. He averaged eight innings to start.
Speaker 2: Yeah, those days are long gone, long gone. All right,
Speaker 2: we'll take a break. Phone calls coming up. Joe Thomas
Speaker 2: Brown's Hall of Famer next hour as well. We're back
Speaker 2: after this.
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Speaker 2: CC Sabbathia was talking about he couldn't get Evan Longoria out.
Speaker 2: Longoria hit eight home runs off Sabbathia. He hit four
Speaker 2: to ten off of him. He had seventeen extra bases.
Speaker 2: Those were the most by any hitter against Sabbathia. There's
Speaker 2: just certain guys, like pictures will talk about like I
Speaker 2: couldn't get that guy out, and it's never the guy
Speaker 2: you think. It's always I couldn't. I couldn't figure out
Speaker 2: Mark Lemke of the Braves, and you're like, huh. They're
Speaker 2: just certain guys because I always thought that a pitcher,
Speaker 2: you're gearing up for the really good players. It's the
Speaker 2: other ones that you're not doing as much research or
Speaker 2: homework or that you know you can get them out.
Speaker 2: It's when the big time guy comes up, you forget
Speaker 2: about the other guy.
Speaker 4: Yes, Ton, Sometimes they have a.
Speaker 7: Certain adding stance that's distracting. There's all kinds of little
Speaker 7: things that sometimes make it like why would that guy
Speaker 7: be the one that you can't get out?
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna play in or out.
Speaker 4: You're either in or out.
Speaker 2: Danny Hurley last night was in well Danny Hurley mode,
Speaker 2: and he had a little back and forth. Maybe not
Speaker 2: a back and forth. It was just a fourth with
Speaker 2: an official during the game against Butler that went into overtime. So,
Speaker 2: Marvin Yukon apologist, can you tell us what Danny Hurley
Speaker 2: said to the official?
Speaker 8: I can't say what he said exactly paraphrasing. Okay, you
Speaker 8: know what, Paula, do you have the exact quote?
Speaker 9: The quote is? And I saw this posted quote don't
Speaker 9: turn your back on me. I'm the best coach in
Speaker 9: the blanking sport. I thought there was a joke because
Speaker 9: I saw the video clip. That's actually what he said
Speaker 9: in the moment to the right.
Speaker 2: All right, here is Danny Hurley, Yukon head coach at
Speaker 2: the press conference.
Speaker 12: Think TV got you saying something, don't turn your back
Speaker 12: on me, I'm the best coaching.
Speaker 13: Can I say that?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 13: I mean, I know we you know I'm gonna sound
Speaker 13: like it here, So you know, he just I want
Speaker 13: to I want some level of communication.
Speaker 2: You know, as long as you're winning, you're okay with this.
Speaker 2: Like Bob Knight got away with a lot of things,
Speaker 2: and then Bob Knight start stopped winning and then he
Speaker 2: didn't get away with those things. Danny Hurley is the
Speaker 2: sport and I like that there. You're either you like
Speaker 2: him or you don't like him. You know, he's he
Speaker 2: is college basketball. It used to be Bobby Hurley, uh,
Speaker 2: and then Danny Hurley. Now Bobby Hurley is Danny Hurley's
Speaker 2: big brother, because Danny Hurley is college basketball right now.
Speaker 2: Players come and go one and done's coaches stay forever
Speaker 2: turned down. The Lakers stayed at Yukon, and you could
Speaker 2: have a camera on him. Like if I was the
Speaker 2: mother Ship or Fox and I was doing a game,
Speaker 2: I would just have Hurley cam. Seaton went to the
Speaker 2: game last night. How did it look with your your
Speaker 2: your vantage point there?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 5: Well, my vantage point was nowhere near. Oh you could
Speaker 5: see what the coach is doing. I was in the
Speaker 5: second to last row, all the way at the very top,
Speaker 5: often referred to as the nosebleeds, And believe it or not,
Speaker 5: I swear the guy sitting next to us had a
Speaker 5: nose breed. He left before he left before the half
Speaker 5: with his kid because he couldn't get his nose to
Speaker 5: stop bleeding. I swear, I swear, So he got a nosebleed.
Speaker 4: In the nosebleed.
Speaker 5: Was we were in the nosebleeds and he literally had
Speaker 5: a nosebleed, no joke.
Speaker 4: It was amazing.
Speaker 5: Uh. You know he part of part of Dan Hurley's
Speaker 5: quote too. It's like, I wish that they would show
Speaker 5: these other coaches losing their minds too. Nobody does it
Speaker 5: the way he does it. He does it in like
Speaker 5: almost Jim Carrey like fashion, where who's got the face
Speaker 5: and his mouth just turned upside down and you better
Speaker 5: look at me, you better look at me. People aren't
Speaker 5: doing that. It's not nearly as cartoonish as he is.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: I think that's part of why the camera is on him,
Speaker 5: because it's ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Nick Cronin at UCLA, but he's not winning championships, so
Speaker 2: we look at him differently than we do Dan Hurley.
Speaker 2: It's like, ah, there's a method to the madness. That
Speaker 2: guy is a diabolical genius, yes, Marvin, But Mick.
Speaker 8: Crona doesn't have any redeeming qualities either. When have you
Speaker 8: ever seen him be the opposite? Like you know what,
Speaker 8: just jovial at any point.
Speaker 2: Plus throwing your players under the bus that doesn't go
Speaker 2: over well, but figuratively throwing him.
Speaker 4: Under the bus that would be bad. Yeah, not literally, literally.
Speaker 9: You can't do that.
Speaker 4: Hurley is fascinating.
Speaker 2: It's who he is, and people didn't recognize or realize
Speaker 2: that's who he was until they started winning, and then
Speaker 2: they're watching him because if he was at Wagner, I
Speaker 2: don't know if anybody's really noticing, you know, his temper,
Speaker 2: tantrums or sideline manners.
Speaker 8: Yes, Marvin, the first time I saw him when I
Speaker 8: was working at the Mother Show. We did a game
Speaker 8: at u Are University of Rhode Island. This is exactly
Speaker 8: who he's been. He was going crazy in a game
Speaker 8: against George Mason. He was gone in Warwick, Rhode Island,
Speaker 8: going crazy.
Speaker 6: So this is all.
Speaker 8: This is who he's always been. But we're noticing it
Speaker 8: now because they're really good.
Speaker 2: And it's not because hey, I'm on TV or this
Speaker 2: is a big time opponent. This is who he is.
Speaker 2: And his dad was that way too. Bobby doesn't coach
Speaker 2: with that same kind of fire, but you know Bobby
Speaker 2: Senior that that's the way he coached Bob Hurling, he
Speaker 2: coached that way intense.
Speaker 12: Uh.
Speaker 2: And Danny, I mean Danny even said to us when
Speaker 2: I said, you know, why'd you turn down the Lakers,
Speaker 2: and you know, he basically said he kind of wanted
Speaker 2: he has to mature. You know, I got to mature
Speaker 2: a little bit more before I decided to do something
Speaker 2: like that. So he knows and I you know, that's
Speaker 2: why I like having him on because if I ask
Speaker 2: a question, I get an answer from him. I want
Speaker 2: to know what your wife thinks when she sees you
Speaker 2: do that? And does that conversation come up when you
Speaker 2: get it home?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 8: Mar what doesn't happen with every husband and wife? You
Speaker 8: know who you married? I think all of all of
Speaker 8: our wives have been at that moment where why is so?
Speaker 8: So I can like that I know who I'm married.
Speaker 2: You don't think that his wife is surprised. Sometimes she
Speaker 2: knows who she met.
Speaker 6: They've been together since he was at.
Speaker 4: Sea and Hall, Yeah, yeah, you don't.
Speaker 6: Think she's seen a couple of outbursts at Wagner and.
Speaker 5: You are I yeah, yeah, she's definitely not surprised by this.
Speaker 5: Uh time to play in or out.
Speaker 4: You're either in or you're out.
Speaker 9: Paul, rapid fire, Dan, Okay, the Lions are going to
Speaker 9: be fine, Todd, I'm in.
Speaker 5: Stan What what does fine mean?
Speaker 9: A serious Super Bowl contender for the next few seasons.
Speaker 4: I'm out, whoa, Marvin? I mean, I'm in.
Speaker 9: I love snowy NFL playoff games.
Speaker 4: Todd in satan out out in.
Speaker 9: It's becoming autish lately. People are not enjoying snow football
Speaker 9: when it really really matters.
Speaker 2: Well, I want to make sure that we can still
Speaker 2: see the yardage, we can see the numbers. We you know,
Speaker 2: we we have an idea that there's a football field
Speaker 2: down there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, sedon, do you want to see Usain Bolt run
Speaker 5: on a clean track or on one of the covered
Speaker 5: with snow?
Speaker 9: I actually would like to see him on snow really
Speaker 9: just one time?
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, yeah, just one time. It's fine. You see
Speaker 5: the big slates, the snowflakes falling. Look at that. Look
Speaker 5: at seventy eight was the best one ever. And then
Speaker 5: I don't want to see that. I don't want see
Speaker 5: dudes shuffling around. They look like me trying to run.
Speaker 5: I to hate that.
Speaker 3: What else?
Speaker 9: Paul, here we go, Ohio States. Ryan Day should be
Speaker 9: a hotter. Oh sorry, Ryan Day should be a hotter.
Speaker 9: NFL coaching candidate Todd out setan.
Speaker 4: Out Marvin out, I'm out.
Speaker 9: Interesting a guy relatively young, wins a lot of football games,
Speaker 9: and no one throws his name around for the NFL.
Speaker 5: Was that an in?
Speaker 4: I know you or you?
Speaker 5: You haven't weighed in, but you said.
Speaker 4: The first thing you said was in Tristing, Tristing.
Speaker 5: I'm in.
Speaker 9: I don't understand it. Whether you like him or dislike him,
Speaker 9: usually success equals offers.
Speaker 4: Okay, here we go.
Speaker 9: A couple of heavies. Tom Brady has whiffed so far
Speaker 9: with the Raiders.
Speaker 6: Todd out remains to be seen.
Speaker 4: Satan.
Speaker 5: I'm not still one hundred percent sure that he's the
Speaker 5: one doing it, but he has not done well, so
Speaker 5: that means I'm in correct, right, Okay, Marvin.
Speaker 6: I'm out.
Speaker 4: I'm in. I think he wanted Ben Johnson.
Speaker 9: Last one, real fast, Dione Sanders next football job will
Speaker 9: be in college football.
Speaker 2: Todd in staying with Boulder Seaton in Marvin and his
Speaker 2: next job after Colorado, Yes out, final hour in the way.
Speaker 4: Hope you're in