1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: learn this stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: production of iHeartRadio. 5 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,159 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the show. My name is Max, my 6 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: name is Noel. 7 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 3: They call me Ben. We're joined as always with our 8 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 3: super producer Dylan the Tennessee pal Fagot. Most importantly, you 9 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 3: are you. You are here, by which we mean probably 10 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 3: on Earth. Most that makes this the stuff they don't 11 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 3: want you to know. Welcome back everyone. We're recording on Monday, 12 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 3: December eighth, and we are pleased as punch lines that 13 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 3: you are here. We're diving into something we speculated about 14 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 3: for a long time. 15 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,199 Speaker 2: Humanity has speculated about it for a long time since 16 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: that Zechariah Sitchen Fellow has come along. 17 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 4: For sure, this is yeah. The story of this particular 18 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 4: topic goes back millions and billions of years before the 19 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 4: rise of that humanity that you know had so much 20 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 4: to say about it. On the Solar system is home 21 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 4: to you know, just countless hidden mysteries, history mysteries, and 22 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 4: this one is an absolute doozy and one that you're 23 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 4: probably not going to find in your astronomy textbooks or 24 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 4: whatever they teach in school. 25 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 3: Now, yeah, and you can tell folks that most of 26 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 3: us have not been in a classroom in a while. 27 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 3: We remember the experience though, We remember seeing those textbooks. 28 00:01:54,600 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 3: This is something we have been obsessed with since before 29 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 3: the very first video of stuff. They don't want you 30 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 3: to know. It's a subject of intense scrutiny, controversy, allegations, 31 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 3: and debate. So here, finally, at the end of twenty 32 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 3: twenty five, we're doing it. This is our episode on NABIU. 33 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 3: This is also our cold open. We'll explain the word later. 34 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 3: Here are the facts. Dylan, let me do like a 35 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 3: nineteen eighty stand up thing. Bump the mic b ba 36 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 3: b boph Is it like slapping base? Like y sinefold 37 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 3: kind vibes? 38 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 5: Now? 39 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 2: Wait, wait, Dylan, can we get like a crowd sound? 40 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 2: Like a quiet, hushed crowd sound. And then Ben is 41 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 2: up on stage. All right, Ben, are you ready? 42 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, uh Matt, I'm gonna take that as 43 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 3: a compliment. 44 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that said. It's a quiet out. You're 45 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 2: on stage. 46 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 3: All right, like Noel said, the base they're stilling. Okay, 47 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 3: there we go, what's the deal with the solar system? 48 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 2: It takes first record cut. 49 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 3: That's the special thank you. 50 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 4: Things were like Darth Vader never actually said Luke, I 51 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 4: am your father with some version of that. Do you 52 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 4: think Seinfeld ever actually said what's the deal with something? 53 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 3: Is it on record? 54 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 4: Or is this just like a Seinfeld approximation like something. 55 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 3: Jerry Jerry probably did it after the fact, like after 56 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 3: it became self referential. 57 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 4: Probably true. 58 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, But the but the idea of the solar system 59 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 3: should be familiar to all of us, right. It's the 60 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 3: local neighborhood for all known life. And the neighborhood is 61 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 3: pretty big in the immediate perspective, but it's pretty small 62 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 3: in the larger perspective. It's beautiful in its way. But 63 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 3: you know what, guys, if we think about it, the 64 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 3: solar system is an abandoned street in a rough part 65 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 3: of the galaxy. Our solar system has only one occupied house. 66 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, and the classic heliocentric model the solar system, 67 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 4: it's really just a solar system, right, I mean there 68 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 4: are others you know. It's our orbiting around a glowing 69 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 4: heat producing energy dense star body. 70 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,799 Speaker 3: Whatever you guys feel bad about yourselves in the future, 71 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be like, hey man, you're my solar system. 72 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 2: Yes, well, let's talk about how big it is, because 73 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 2: it's one of those weird things we've talked about a 74 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,799 Speaker 2: few times. Yeah, and we met measure again in an 75 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 2: earth centric way aus AUS, which is the distance from 76 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 2: us to our star, right, which is around ninety one 77 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 2: point five point six million miles. 78 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 3: Very self centered. Earth has obviously gone to therapy. 79 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, getting into the nitty gritty of it of 80 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 2: what's going on with us here on Earth and Earth 81 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 2: in general. So we measure the size of the solar 82 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 2: system in that distance, and it's somewhere between one hundred 83 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: thousand and two hundred thousand aus, so one hundred thousand 84 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 2: or two hundred thousand times ninety one point five million. 85 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, big place. Right. Most people are too small in 86 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 3: height to be measured in AUS. We have not done 87 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 3: the math, but most people, even if you stand up straight, 88 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 3: are not going to be as tall as the single 89 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 3: unit of AU that you just described, Matt and Gosh. 90 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 3: Since before the dawn of recorded history, the Homo sapien 91 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 3: has been captivated with this idea of itself, its location 92 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 3: on this planet called Earth, with the nearby observable planets, 93 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 3: with the universe beyond, out there in the ink, and 94 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 3: there are tons and tons of things out there. We 95 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 3: call them in general celestial bodies, but only a few 96 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 3: are called planets. So the current scientific consensus tells us 97 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 3: this solar system, this little neighborhood, has eight planets. I 98 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 3: know a lot of people are gonna get pissed when 99 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 3: they hear that. For sure, Even in twenty twenty. 100 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 2: Five, there are eight official planets, but there's still some 101 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 2: on the little list there, like on the bench. They're like, oh, 102 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 2: come on, I put me in for a couple of plays, 103 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 2: just a couple. 104 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 3: And this comes to us via the work of the 105 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 3: International Astronomical Union. In two thousand and six, they made 106 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 3: a game time decision. They have three criteria defining planet 107 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 3: actual right. 108 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 4: So first, they have to orbit a star like we 109 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 4: were talking about earlier in the heliocentric model of the universe. 110 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 4: In our case, that is the Sun, which is the 111 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 4: center of the Solar system, which makes sense. There are 112 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 4: other objects in space that do the same thing. There 113 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 4: are other Solar systems. Second, they have to possess sufficient 114 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 4: mass for what we call hydrostatic equilibrium, which is just 115 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 4: a wow, it's even hard to say equilibrium, which is 116 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 4: just a fancy way of describing a state of balanced gravity. 117 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 4: Gravity which wants to pull things together and pressure wants 118 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 4: to blow things apart. So stars actually have this force 119 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,679 Speaker 4: as well, and it's the reason that our Sun looks 120 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 4: like a ball. But hydrostatic equilibrium alone does not make 121 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 4: a planet round. You need something else, which is our 122 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 4: last bit of criteria. 123 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, these are our first two. So a thing that 124 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 3: orbits a star, a thing that has hydrostatic equilibrium. And 125 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 3: the last criteria is you gotta play highland or rules. 126 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 3: A planet has to have cleared its neighboring region of 127 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 3: other objects. So the concept here is that there is 128 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 3: a there is a reason that Mars and Earth are 129 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 3: not orbiting on the same right. 130 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the way when you've seen those old pictures, 131 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 2: or maybe that's how you even see it in your mind. 132 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 2: When you picture the Solar system, you see kind of 133 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 2: a plane of planets, right that are all along a 134 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 2: roughly similar plane to the Sun, And that is part 135 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 2: of how our Solar system works. The other thing is, guys, 136 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 2: that whole hydrostatic equilibrium thing. That's why I was always puzzled. 137 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 2: While you could have a planet like ours and Mars, 138 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 2: and you could also have a planet like Jupiter and Saturn. 139 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 2: That's what's known as a gas giant. So it's mostly 140 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 2: just gases that have reached that hydrostatic equilibrium thing that 141 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 2: makes them appear as a ball, right and holds things 142 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 2: in to a certain extent, but then forces other things out. 143 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 2: It's just it's really strange to me still that those 144 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 2: two types of celestial bodies are considered the same thing. 145 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 3: And you nailed it there, Matt, the concept celestial bodies. 146 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 3: Please do check out our recent episode or our recent 147 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 3: other conversations about things that came and went in this 148 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,599 Speaker 3: bandowed neighborhood of the galaxy. 149 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 4: And if I could just issue a slight correction on 150 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 4: something I misstated earlier. Hydrostatic equilibrium is the force that 151 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 4: makes the planet round, but it is not the only 152 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 4: force that makes one of these bodies a planet. 153 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, like as we're seeing, the International Astronomical 154 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 3: Union back in two thousand and six came up with 155 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 3: this definition, these three these three criteria, and per that criteria, 156 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 3: this solar system in which you are probably listening to 157 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 3: this podcast has eight actual planets, So in order of 158 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 3: closest to furthest from the Sun, they are Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, 159 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 3: Uranus or Urinus if you're not fun and Neptune. And 160 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 3: here we get a throw to Tennessee what's the best 161 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 3: mnemonic for that. 162 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 4: The most ellen to date, one that that really jives 163 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 4: with these are modern times. 164 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, very eager mother just served us. And then the 165 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 5: inn I say, Nabisco or nest quick it used to 166 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 5: be nine pies when you know Pluto was in the game. 167 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 4: Or pizzas is Matt pointed out, I believe off Mike. 168 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, don't your nomadic Matt. 169 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,599 Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know. I don't know what it was, 170 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 2: the nine pizzas thing. Our very enigmatic mother just served 171 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 2: us nine pizzas or something like enigmatic. 172 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:27,959 Speaker 3: What's in the pizzas? Then? What's going on? 173 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 2: Oh? I don't know. But guys, I was thinking about this, 174 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 2: this concept of planets clearing their general vicinity. You upon 175 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 2: hearing that, you may, as I do, feel kind of 176 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 2: weird about it because you don't all these planets have 177 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 2: had and then you realize, oh, okay, But the difference 178 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 2: is those celestial bodies actually orbit the planet rather than 179 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,599 Speaker 2: orbit the Sun. Well, it's all orbiting the Sun, but 180 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 2: they were caught in that planet's orbit, right, That's what 181 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 2: makes it different from just other stuff that's rolling around. 182 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 2: But when you think about what about all these dang 183 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 2: asteroids around Earth the belt we have a cleared well, 184 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 2: not even the Kiper Belt, just our our general area. 185 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 2: We've got a whole swarm of stuff that exists around 186 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 2: us and all the other planets. It is interesting just 187 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 2: to imagine how much stuff is actually moving around in 188 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 2: our Solar system, despite all of these planets being so 189 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 2: far away from each other. 190 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 3: There's a lot of stuff out in the ink. And 191 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 3: aside from the three commonalities that the IAU has defined, 192 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 3: each planet per this definition is unique in its makeup, 193 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 3: its location, its passage around the star, and of course 194 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 3: it's unique in its estimated potential for life. Most of 195 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 3: these things that humanity calls planets were discovered way way 196 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 3: back in the ancient Deeve Deans. However, humanity didn't clock 197 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:04,559 Speaker 3: of you of them until much more recently. Urinus or 198 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 3: Uranus if you're cool on March thirteenth, seventeen eighty one, 199 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 3: that's super recent. And in Neptune, which is discovered on 200 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:23,839 Speaker 3: officially discovered on September twenty third, eighteen forty six, and 201 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 3: the discovery of Euratus, Eurytus and Neptune trigger a lot 202 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 3: of what we're talking about tonight. 203 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 2: Let's really think about that for a moment, because in 204 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 2: seventeen eighty one, you've got telescopes, You've got people who 205 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 2: are looking up in the sky and are really interested. 206 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 2: There's been a ton of writing and research on what's 207 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 2: occurring up above us, right all of us on this planet. 208 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 2: It's been there have been thousands of years of people 209 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 2: writing down making pictures of what's seen up there, often 210 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 2: with the naked eye, and then with technology. And eighty one, 211 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 2: this guy, William Herschel sees what he describes as a 212 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 2: slowly moving comet way out in the distance, near the 213 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 2: consolation of Taurus, and he just starts talking about it 214 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 2: and asking other people, and then they start trying to 215 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 2: make calculations, mathematical calculations to figure out orbits of things, 216 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 2: and they discover planets. And the same thing happened a 217 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 2: year after the magazine Scientific American was founded. How crazy 218 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 2: is that Scientific American That we used to get issues 219 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 2: of it in our office back in the day. You 220 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 2: guys remember that. 221 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 3: And I still have a subscription, Yeah, well, and many 222 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 3: of us do. 223 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 2: But it was thinking that that magazine began publishing before 224 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 2: a new planet in our solar system was discovered is 225 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 2: pretty mind boggling. 226 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 3: History is always closer than it looks in that rear 227 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 3: view mirror. Also, Matt, what you said reminded me of 228 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 3: a of a deep cut pop song. I think it's 229 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 3: a pop song. Luscious Jackson? Is that the name Naked 230 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 3: Eyes Killer Les Jackson? 231 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 4: And they were the house band and the prom scene 232 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 4: and the Adventures. 233 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 3: Of Pete and Pete. 234 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 2: Oh, yes, it's true. 235 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 6: We're still relevant, Yes, we are, speaking of the only 236 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 6: reason why they discovered Neptune is because Urinus's orbit, the 237 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 6: predicted orbit path was a little. 238 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 3: Off in gravitational eccentricities. 239 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 2: Right, And as we're going to talk about in this episode, 240 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 2: the only reason we think we can find or we 241 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 2: think we've found evidence of other things way out in 242 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 2: the Kuiper Belt are because those predicted orbits are a 243 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 2: little off. So it's just weird to me to think 244 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 2: that there's still potentially a ton of stuff out there 245 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 2: we just haven't seen yet because for one reason or 246 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 2: another we haven't put our telescope in the right place yet. 247 00:15:54,680 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 3: It's absolutely true, and it's well put, Matt. The The 248 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 3: issue is exploration continues. And the reason I made this 249 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 3: low key foreshadowing joke about relevance and luscious Jackson is 250 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 3: because relevance is of certain concern to things like Pluto. 251 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 3: At some point, some of us in the audience, some 252 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 3: of our fellow friends and neighbors, conspiracy theorists, we may 253 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 3: once again protest the demotion of Pluto. Pluto is currently 254 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 3: by the IAU considered a dwarf planet under that list 255 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 3: of criteria because it does meet the first two requirements. 256 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 3: It orbits the Sun, it has hydrostatic equilibrium, but it 257 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 3: is not pulled a highlander around its orbit. Essentially, there 258 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 3: are other things around Pluto and they're not moons, and 259 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 3: we can't be too harsh about Pluto. It was only 260 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 3: we said Neptune discovered eighteen forty six. Pluto as a 261 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 3: result of studying Neptune was discovered in nineteen thirty by 262 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 3: an astronomer named Clyde. 263 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 2: I feel like it's cool to just say his first day, 264 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:18,479 Speaker 2: you know, astronomer in Clyde. 265 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 3: And so for seventy six human years, Pluto was considered 266 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 3: a legit planet. And that's still a cosmic achievement. We 267 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 3: don't want to walk away from that, you know, Pluto. 268 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 3: If you're hearing it, plutoniums, thank you for your service. 269 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 3: That's pretty dope, you guys. 270 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 2: Well, Pluto being a dwarf planet is nothing to scoff 271 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 2: at either. There's so many dwarf planets or like planetoids 272 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 2: out there near the Kuiper Belt that have been discovered 273 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 2: over the years. There's some very weird ones. There's one 274 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 2: called Erakoff that's out there. Looks like a little snowman 275 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 2: floating around. It's very strange. Looks like a little planetoid, 276 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 2: teeny tiny planetoid on top of another little planetoid. And 277 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 2: you know, there are things like I think, gosh, correct 278 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 2: me if I'm wrong here, guys, Pluto is like half 279 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 2: the width of the United States or something like that. 280 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 2: It's pretty it's like small, it's very small. 281 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 3: It's a trans Neptunian object. Yeah, and again it has 282 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 3: the hydrostatic equilibrium, right that's that's the big deal. But 283 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 3: the bigger deal of all of this is it proves 284 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 3: we as civilization, as Tara, have a lot more to 285 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 3: learn about, not just the galaxy, not just the universe, 286 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 3: but the our own cosmic backyard, and thousands and thousands 287 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 3: of years humanity has been asking these questions. Also, I 288 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 3: would say, just like I know I have in the 289 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 3: notes the very anthro centric stuff, but I think other 290 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 3: animals regard this question as well. 291 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 2: How many planets are there? 292 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? I think they think about it. Okay, Now I 293 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:19,360 Speaker 3: think you know, of course you're you're a simon. You're 294 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 3: a higher order mammal, right, a higher order Avian or whatever, 295 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 3: especially Avians. You don't think they look at the night 296 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 3: sky wonder why one you know, one thing is red 297 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 3: and another all the other stuff is a different color. 298 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 4: I do wonder about that sometimes, man, I wonder what 299 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,719 Speaker 4: the corvids are up to, you know, cognitively speaking? 300 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. The only thing they don't have are you know, 301 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 2: telescopes and the ability to see like anything past a 302 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 2: certain point. Because again it's we couldn't observe Urrenus and 303 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 2: Neptune as easily because they're not as bright right, and 304 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 2: you can't see them. You can see Mars and Jupiter 305 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 2: flying around out there. You even see Jupiter's moons pretty 306 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 2: easily without well with the telescope. 307 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 3: Helps and I respect you for making the conscious choice 308 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 3: to say uranus, but I am going to continue say 309 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 3: uranus because it's hilarious. 310 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 4: As is your prerogative, your rights as a silly goofy guy. 311 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 2: What is the official pronunciation? I genuinely don't know. 312 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 3: Yes, thank you. 313 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 2: Oh it says uranus, uranus. 314 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 3: We got there. 315 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 2: I always thought it was uranus. Oh wow, Okay, I 316 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 2: was wrong. 317 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 4: No, no, potato, patato, I say, fellas, we all know 318 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 4: what we're talking about. 319 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's also the English language, which is just a 320 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 3: non consensual game of improv forever. So the mystery remains. 321 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 3: We've got all these questions. We know that there are 322 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 3: continual new discoveries that we're going to explore in a moment. 323 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 3: With all that in mind, and it's no wonder that 324 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 3: so many aspects of human and again I argue non 325 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 3: human animal culture, from religion to modern conspiracy, all these 326 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 3: aspects have attempted to interpret existing information and make new 327 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 3: theories about the nature of the universe by far the 328 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 3: most popular conspiracy theories about your Solar system, folks. They 329 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 3: hinge on the idea of hidden, ancient or lost planets. 330 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 3: There are secrets, proponents argue, that will change the nature 331 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 3: of existence as you know it. Further, secrets, very powerful 332 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 3: forces want hidden from the public. If you are a 333 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 3: long type listener, you've already heard the name Nibou. 334 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 4: You're going to hear it a bunch more times. After 335 00:21:53,560 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 4: a quick word from our sponse. Here's where it gets crazy. 336 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 3: According to the lore and spoiler, astronomers hate this. Niburu 337 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 3: is a mysterious legit planet that orbits your son every 338 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 3: three thousand, six hundred years. My son, take sun, gotcha 339 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 3: your son? Yeah, your local son, and thank you for 340 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 3: supporting small business. 341 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 4: It's our son down share. 342 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 2: Let's make note here that the official story, or the 343 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 2: official tale, right is an orbit of three thousand, six 344 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 2: hundred years. That is a seam a concept that has 345 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 2: been played with a whole bunch, and that number has 346 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 2: grown and shrunk, and it just depends on I guess 347 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 2: which theoretical Nibiu we're talking about, right, Yeah. 348 00:22:55,560 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 3: Also, that's a great point. It's also sometimes planned at X. 349 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 3: It's also sometimes planet nine, planet ted. You know, it's 350 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 3: also some some guy in a cave or with a 351 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 3: cable TV show say the world ends in September. Oh 352 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 3: wait in October, Oh wait November, Oh wait December, this 353 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 3: time August for sure. 354 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 355 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 2: Well, let's also make you know that planet X is 356 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 2: a thing you've heard a lot. And it gets really 357 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 2: confusing here because planet X is a generalized term or 358 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 2: a name given to planetary bodies celestial bodies out there 359 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 2: that have yet to be to be fully discovered, right 360 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 2: put into the cannon. 361 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 3: Evaluated, but to see if they meet the criteria. You 362 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 3: could just call it planet X for a. 363 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 2: While, and it could not even be a planet. But 364 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 2: it's known as planet X in writing, which is a 365 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 2: crazy thing. There was a oh gosh, I think we 366 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,719 Speaker 2: I think we did a video on it way back 367 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 2: in the day, Ben, but I'm not sure. But in 368 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, there was a discovery of a potential planet 369 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 2: that's like ten times the size of Earth somewhere way 370 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 2: out beyond Neptune, and it was messing with the orbits 371 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 2: of some of the Kuiper Belt objects, but nothing ever 372 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 2: came of it, but it was known for a while 373 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 2: there as planet X has been discovered. 374 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, we were, by the way, we were superheated up 375 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 3: about this and talking to everybody in the office who 376 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 3: would give us two minutes. And it was the most 377 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 3: Jonathan Strickland we have ever been about. No, it's not, actually, 378 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 3: but we were talking a lot at people instead of 379 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 3: with them for that because we were so excited. 380 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 2: Yes, well, and we're going to get into some of 381 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 2: the more recent discoveries. But planet X is out there 382 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 2: as a thing, right. Planet Y is another term that's 383 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,959 Speaker 2: been cropping up recently, especially this year. I think somebody, 384 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 2: this guy a mere Sarage named a planet planet why again, 385 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 2: a theoretical planet? But what is it? Where is it? 386 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 2: How does it function? Again? Way the heck out there? 387 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 2: But it's it gets really confusing when you're trying to 388 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 2: use search terms or ask your whatever Internet AI thing 389 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 2: about these things, because it all kind of gets smushed 390 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 2: ooh into one thing. It's got Some of these search 391 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 2: terms end up getting their own gravitational equilibrium. 392 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 3: Nice, yeah, hypostatic equilibrium view, but they. 393 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 2: Don't they don't get rid of all the crap around them. Though. 394 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 3: Also, I want to give a moment to you there. 395 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 3: I love the idea that you're outlining because it sounds 396 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 3: very much like, yeah, guys, I did find another planet. 397 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 3: You've never met her. She goes to another school, you 398 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like, Oh, all right, so let's 399 00:25:55,920 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 3: give the full story, all right, the legend the story goes, 400 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 3: Nibiru is real. It will one day, at the end 401 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 3: of its cycle, it will crash into Earth yet again, 402 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 3: da da da, or get close enough to really fs up, Dylan, 403 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 3: if you want to beat me for this, what I 404 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 3: wanted to say was fed up and destroy civilization as 405 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 3: humans know it. Doomsday prophecy often tied to hot takes 406 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 3: on existing religion, and as we've noted in the past, 407 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 3: so far all of the end of the world apocalyptic 408 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 3: prophecies have been absurdly incorrect. It is almost as if 409 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 3: then hear us out folks, people were making them up 410 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 3: all along. That's the story of Neberu, right, Yeah? 411 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 2: Am I wrong in that thinking it was tied to Zechariah. 412 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 2: I thought he was the guy that like really made 413 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 2: this thing a thing. 414 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 3: Brews specifically, We'll get to that, all right, for sure. Yeah, 415 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 3: we got to remember how we noted the planet Neptune 416 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 3: was discovered as recently as eighteen forty six. And you 417 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 3: guys remember eighteen forty six, right, it was really weird 418 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 3: time you were there for sure, only at night, Matt, 419 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 3: only night. So this is a thing we love. We 420 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 3: were thinking about this off air, and astronomers really are 421 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 3: like detectives for space. They're space detectives. Noel, can you 422 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 3: do like a quick theme song for space detectives? 423 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 4: Space detective. 424 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 2: In space using maths? 425 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 4: Nago? Yes, I'm some healthy, healthy amount of maths involved. 426 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 4: And I hope Dylan reverbed the all living heck out 427 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 4: of my attempt there. 428 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 3: He's just the best. I'm sure he did. Yeah. Oh, 429 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 3: and it's weird because Dylan, you're in the room. 430 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 2: Listening, lurking and learning. 431 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 4: Well he's he's video off currently, but we know he's 432 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 4: here in spirit. 433 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 3: I guess if we're thinking in cosmic terms and we're 434 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 3: talking about the Solar System, everyone is in the room 435 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 3: together right now. Anyway, we noted this idea of gravitational eccentricity. 436 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 3: It's eighteen forty six, you discovered Neptune, Bully good tally ho. 437 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 3: You start noticing the orbit is not what you expected. 438 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 3: And so you start saying, what else is out there? 439 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 3: You're human, you're obsessed with space. You know there's a 440 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 3: lot of stuff in the neighborhood. And then you do 441 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 3: the thing that science does. You look back on previous research, right, 442 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 3: previous speculation, previous exploration, and with that we gotta we 443 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 3: gotta explore the history of the Niburu conspiracy theories and 444 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 3: hit some science on the way, because it turns out 445 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 3: neburu is an incredibly old word, and as as all 446 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 3: our fellow etymology nerds know, we got to spensive dime 447 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 3: just dig it in to where that word comes from. 448 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 4: We sure do, and we're going to and we're gonna 449 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 4: say naburu again as promised, because it's a word that 450 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 4: comes from the ancient Akkadian language and translates roughly to 451 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 4: mean crossing or a point of transition, and it's typically 452 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 4: something that's used. 453 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 3: To refer to rivers. 454 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 4: So in ancient Babylonia, this was basically Jupiter, which is 455 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 4: such a big, old chunky fella that you could see 456 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 4: it then as we can now without the need of 457 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 4: a lensed device like a telescope. So remember, for a 458 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 4: super long time, science and religion were inextricably combined, intertwined. 459 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 4: So for the people of Sumer and Babylonia and ancient Greece, 460 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 4: as well as Rome and all its glory, what we 461 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 4: call planets were considered in real life kind of avatars 462 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 4: connected to the real life superheroes that are the gods. 463 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 2: They are named after the gods of course, Yes, it 464 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 2: makes sense, and they're out there watching, but they're not 465 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 2: stars because they move. That's weird. I wonder what they're 466 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 2: doing up there must be important, let's write it down. No, 467 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 2: I mean, it makes total sense. We talked about this 468 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 2: concept many many a time. Right when you're an intelligent thing, 469 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 2: you look up and you see weird stuff and you 470 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 2: start jotting down what you're and you notice stuff's moving, 471 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 2: You're like, oh, what the heck is that? 472 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 3: Ret Row says humanity. The issue here is that we've 473 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 3: talked about it as as you're saying in the past. 474 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 3: The issue here is that when science and religion are combined, 475 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 3: they can achieve great things, and they can also limit 476 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 3: each other. Right, So the separate pursuits have created opportunities 477 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 3: for more discourse, for more exploration. But as Lil said 478 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 3: back in the day. You're in the Mediterranean, you're in 479 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 3: the Middle Eastern Delta. You're trying to explain weird stuff 480 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 3: you see in the sky and you say, oh, obviously 481 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 3: that must be kind of God, right or God. So Marduke, 482 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 3: he's a big deal for us. This is great. Also, 483 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 3: this reminds us to check out our Anunaki episode. That's 484 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 3: another one that we took forever to do and I 485 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 3: thought it was pretty good. 486 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 2: Oh, it was great. Well, that's where we really get 487 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 2: into Zichaisichen. His book The Twelfth Planet, came out a 488 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 2: long time ago, ends up being one of the primary 489 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 2: things that solidifies Nibiru as a as a primary concept 490 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 2: as the home planet of the Anunaki. And that's why 491 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 2: it actually means trouble for us, because not only is 492 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 2: a planet on the way that spells trouble, but there's 493 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 2: a whole ancient intelligent civilization that birth humanity is going 494 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 2: to return. It's very much it's very much like the 495 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 2: return of a godhead, like a Jesus or something like that, 496 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,959 Speaker 2: except it's Aliens and they're the ones that created us. 497 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 3: Did you know the Vatican has an observatory. 498 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 2: Yes, and the Vatican has said some weird stuff about 499 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 2: planetary bodies in the past. 500 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 3: Oh what, no way, yeah, no way. The Vatican has 501 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 3: said something weird about anything ever, that's nuts. Well, are 502 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 3: they pass their butter thing? No? Are they pass their 503 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 3: butter thing? 504 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 4: I don't know if you ever really get past the 505 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:22,479 Speaker 4: butter thing? 506 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 2: Ben? 507 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 3: Okay. 508 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 2: Well, one thing that humanity didn't get passed for a 509 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 2: while is the popularity of this book, The Twelfth Planet. 510 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 2: It's millions and millions of copies. So that book has 511 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 2: been extremely popular and in the zeitgey since nineteen seventy six. 512 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 2: So you can see why a book like that comes 513 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 2: out that is supposedly based in science and in ancient 514 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 2: history and translations right of these ancient Sumerian texts and things. 515 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 2: And then you can see how a lot of people 516 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 2: may think, oh, there's something to this pre. 517 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 3: Public pre public access to the internet. 518 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 2: Well yeah, so well, but then, but then there's so 519 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 2: many holes to be punched, as we talked about in 520 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 2: that other episode, Ben, to be punched into some of 521 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 2: the translations, some of the ways in which that information 522 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 2: comes to us via Sitchen. 523 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:18,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's a von dannik In character. He's passed away, 524 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 3: and we asked Accounting for a Wija board so we 525 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 3: could do an interview segment. We'll update you if we 526 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,240 Speaker 3: hear back from stitching. 527 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 4: Surely we can. 528 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 3: Swing a Weezi board. 529 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 4: Guys, I mean, you know how much could a Wigi 530 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 4: word cost? How much could one Wigi board cost? 531 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 3: I'm telling you no, it's the inflation at this point. 532 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 3: You know your your old school wija board used to 533 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,760 Speaker 3: cost you three wooden nickels, an apple and your first child, 534 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 3: and now it's like fifteen bucks. 535 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 4: Can we get a stranger things branded Wiji board or 536 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 4: perhaps the conjuring that seems like it would make a 537 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 4: little more sense. There we go. 538 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 3: So we're in a pause to follow up with Accounting, 539 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 3: and we'll be right back with more about Nabiu. We've returned. 540 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 3: So we mentioned the idea of Nebru as a concept, 541 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 3: and we also mentioned Zechariah stitching. If you're looking it up, 542 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 3: the first name is spelled ze c h A r 543 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 3: i A. It's a little bit different from what you 544 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 3: might anticipate, right if you're from the West, because that 545 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 3: guy is born in nazerbaisad no shade. Sorry, I just 546 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 3: pointed out these from Azerbaishad as though that matters to 547 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 3: what he thinks. But so he is like an he's 548 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 3: like a Von Danakin, He's like the guy who wrote 549 00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 3: Chariots of the Gods later and the ideas that he 550 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,720 Speaker 3: sort of originates this ancient astronaut theory. 551 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 2: It really. 552 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 3: Gets some high auctane gas in the mid nineteen nineties, 553 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 3: nineteen ninety five ish with someone called Nancy Lighter led R. 554 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 3: If we were to describe Lighter fairly, we would say 555 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 3: this is a self articulating experiencer abductee. 556 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:42,280 Speaker 4: That's right, Yeah, someone who's had alliances with the extraterrestrial, 557 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 4: of an extraterrestrial nature, specifically, as she claims, from the 558 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 4: Zeta Reticuli star system. Which is is that data that 559 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 4: we're aware of or is this something that is, you know, 560 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 4: experientially described by leader herself. 561 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,399 Speaker 3: I love that you're saying that, because this sounds legit, 562 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 3: but it also sounds a little star treking. So it's like, 563 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 3: it's a cool name. I feel you. It's almost too 564 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 3: cool to be true. It's thirty nine light years from Earth, okay, 565 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 3: And the thing is, if life exists in the binary 566 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 3: star system Zeta Reticuli we have no idea what they 567 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 3: call it. We call it Zeta Reticuli. And humanity is 568 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,760 Speaker 3: vary into naming stars. 569 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 2: Absolutely. You can even get your own name on a 570 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 2: star if you want to. 571 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 4: Guys, how much could a star possibly cost? 572 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 3: Wish upon it? 573 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 4: Well, I believe you can find that out. I don't 574 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 4: know right off hand, but if I'm not mistaken, Ben 575 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 4: and a listener, a kind listener, gifted us with a 576 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,760 Speaker 4: star somewhere out there in the blackness of space. 577 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 3: So we're out there in the ink. Yes, thank you 578 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:54,360 Speaker 3: as always for thinking of us, says Planet Earth, and says, is. 579 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 2: It name to STDWYTK do we know you know what? 580 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,879 Speaker 3: We'll find it an update because we got a nice 581 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 3: plaque and we saved it and we are still looking 582 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 3: for our next studio set and we're gonna frame that 583 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 3: thing and put it front and center. 584 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 2: I genuinely didn't know this. That's amazing. 585 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 3: And that's what Nancy Lighter is hoping people were saying. 586 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,879 Speaker 3: She says, Nibiu is real. It is going to hit 587 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 3: Near Earth or hit Earth Prime, or it's gonna come 588 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 3: close enough to barrel through the inner part of the 589 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 3: Solar System. And here's when she said it would happen 590 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,399 Speaker 3: May of two thousand and three. 591 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 2: Oh, she was just trying to she didn't understand the message. 592 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,760 Speaker 2: She was trying to warn about the invasion of Iraq, right, yeah. 593 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, Zeta Reticuli was really concerned with Desert Fox and 594 00:38:55,239 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 3: Desert Storm for sure. That's like their main priority. Thirty 595 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 3: died the light years from mirth. 596 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 2: Did I think that was shocking? 597 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 3: Awe, Actually that was shocking. All there we go. We 598 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 3: solved it. We solved it together. She also, by the way, 599 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 3: had had or has a messionic complex. I am the 600 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 3: chosen one, you know, I'm not a humble messenger. I'm 601 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 3: the only one who could tell you. 602 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's tough. Can you guys imagine if you really 603 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 2: thought that's what it happened to you, or what if 604 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 2: it really did happen to you, How the heck do 605 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 2: you get that message out without just being ridiculed into oblivion. 606 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 3: You have to be ready for the ridicule, especially in 607 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,800 Speaker 3: the predisclosure days. 608 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 4: Not that disclosure of experience has been like super overwhelming, 609 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,400 Speaker 4: but you know, it does seem like people are a 610 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 4: little more willing to come out and describe some of 611 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 4: these things. But yeah, back in those days it would 612 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 4: you'd have to be open to the ridicule. 613 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,320 Speaker 2: But none of that stuff in the age of disclosure 614 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 2: is talking about the experience. That's right. The person who 615 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 2: actually becomes abducted or is sent a message, right, and 616 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,400 Speaker 2: you only you can hear the message or that that 617 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:08,360 Speaker 2: kind of thing. 618 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 3: That shows in one sort of egoism. 619 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:13,479 Speaker 2: That's a tougher cell. 620 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:19,280 Speaker 3: Agreed, Yeah, it's it is a tougher cell, especially because 621 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 3: now we're in the mid nineteen nineties, so the Internet 622 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 3: is extant for the public, which means this person, this 623 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 3: experiencer or self described abductee contact ee, is able to 624 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 3: propagate their views. Right. And the May two thousand and 625 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 3: three prediction is that Earth is going to get hit 626 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 3: by an a biro for real this time, you know, 627 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 3: for real this time, and this will trigger that long 628 00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 3: predicted magnetic pull shift most human beings and most higher 629 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:08,279 Speaker 3: order mammals, probably most of the smart avians as well. 630 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,360 Speaker 3: The thing is, here's why I think this hit. We 631 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 3: know that the magnetic poles of this planet Earth where 632 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 3: we're currently recording, they shift, they do, they switch up 633 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:25,920 Speaker 3: every so often. The compass will will get weird with 634 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 3: you over a long span of time, so technically that's 635 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 3: not an incorrect prediction. However, this person tied it to 636 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,439 Speaker 3: the year two thousand and three, which means not only 637 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 3: was she wrong, but she was wrong before it happened. 638 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 3: So multiple internet forums in this nascent emergent information environment, 639 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 3: they picked up this new folklore and they ran with it. 640 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,360 Speaker 3: They ran with it, and then twenty twelve, end of 641 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 3: the year, right or end of the world, I can't 642 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 3: remember which what it was. People go with that as well. 643 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,359 Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about that, because I specifically remember being 644 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,719 Speaker 2: a bit caught up in the December twenty first, twenty 645 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 2: twelve thing, because it was a calendar year that had 646 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,360 Speaker 2: been prophesized and all that other stuff, and a lot 647 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 2: of people were writing not just a lot of people 648 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 2: were writing about it. Everybody was talking about Naberu. Everybody 649 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 2: was talking about the end of the mind calendar. Everybody 650 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,439 Speaker 2: was pretty obsessed with that. If you go to Live 651 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:37,279 Speaker 2: Science back in July of twenty eleven now and How 652 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 2: Stuff Works Live Science twenty eleven, Natalie Wolchover is writing 653 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 2: about how obsessed people are believers in mysterious planet Nabiu 654 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 2: await Earth's end, and genuinely there was this concept that 655 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 2: something catastrophic was going to happen, whether it is a 656 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:59,319 Speaker 2: planet arriving or some other thing within Earth is going 657 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 2: to begin causing earthquakes and volcanic activity and all that 658 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 2: kind of stuff. When something like that gets in the 659 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,479 Speaker 2: zeitgeist and people are thinking about it and writing about 660 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 2: it and showing up in the news, kind of like 661 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:15,160 Speaker 2: the three I Atlas thing, and it becomes there's just 662 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 2: a deluge of information about it, and who knows how 663 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 2: much of it is speculation in the moment, right, Sometimes 664 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,919 Speaker 2: an outlet will tell you it's speculation, but often it won't. 665 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 2: It'll be it won't be like Live Science or how 666 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 2: stuff works, right, It'll be like lad Bible or one 667 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,359 Speaker 2: of these other outlets that just makes it seem as 668 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:33,720 Speaker 2: though it's really happening. 669 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:39,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, And we have to remember many, many human beings, 670 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 3: especially in the age of modern media, are convinced that 671 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 3: civilization will end in their lifetime because there's an inherent 672 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:57,840 Speaker 3: narcissism to paranoia, right, And you want to understand the 673 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:03,239 Speaker 3: world around you, you know, we want to have the 674 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 3: best evidence of our environment, and we want to follow 675 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:12,400 Speaker 3: up on any questions. We want to We want to 676 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:16,400 Speaker 3: be experiencers, you know, we want to be more than 677 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:20,520 Speaker 3: anything contacted. So if you are an extra terrestrial and 678 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,920 Speaker 3: you're listening right now right to us, we'd love to 679 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,800 Speaker 3: hear from you. Conspiracy Atiheartradio dot com. The issue is, 680 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 3: and I think the reason we keep returning to this 681 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:36,240 Speaker 3: is that there is stark, inarguable evidence that some crazy 682 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:40,400 Speaker 3: kaiser so say stuff did smack the snot out of 683 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:44,479 Speaker 3: Earth at multiple times, and there is still a hard, 684 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 3: non zero chance of something hitting planet Earth right now 685 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,800 Speaker 3: as you're listening to the show, we've got to introduce 686 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:59,800 Speaker 3: the actual evidence on stage. You know what, you love it? 687 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 4: It's thea Yeah, Matt, I think this is one that 688 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,360 Speaker 4: you were super excited about, but. 689 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,520 Speaker 2: It is because I didn't know any of this crap. 690 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 2: I was never taught this in a school. Nobody told me, Hey, 691 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,400 Speaker 2: there was a planet that used to be in the 692 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 2: Inner Solar System, pretty close to the Sun, and it's 693 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 2: a little bit smaller than Earth but kind of similar, 694 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 2: and it's smashed into Earth and oh, that thing is 695 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,360 Speaker 2: probably the reason why we have a moon, and that 696 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:26,839 Speaker 2: thing is probably why Earth created life or was able 697 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,800 Speaker 2: to create life, and not just some lifeless rock of 698 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:31,800 Speaker 2: molten lavenge. 699 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,359 Speaker 3: It's like a sid Barrett or a fifth beetle. It's 700 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 3: about four and a half billion years ago. That's when 701 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,279 Speaker 3: Earth birthed the Moon. As far as we can tell, 702 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:43,960 Speaker 3: this was proto planet. 703 00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 4: If I'm not mis sake, yeah it was a proto Yeah. 704 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:52,239 Speaker 3: Yeah. Thea is still a hypothesis, right, but it's a 705 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 3: pretty plausible one ancient Early System planet around the size 706 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 3: of modern Mars. So for all of us who have 707 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:06,360 Speaker 3: been to Mars, think of it as a little bit bigger, 708 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,759 Speaker 3: a little bit smaller not and it just hit Earth, 709 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,360 Speaker 3: or hit our little startup Earth at this point. It 710 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 3: hit it with the force of the same thing that 711 00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:22,359 Speaker 3: killed the dinosaurs, but that was an asteroid. This one 712 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,880 Speaker 3: was much bigger. These were planets colliding. The reason we 713 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,960 Speaker 3: call them proto planets is because they had not highlander 714 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 3: style cleared out their orbit, right. These things were on 715 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:40,320 Speaker 3: the same path around the Sun, and it hit Earth 716 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:44,280 Speaker 3: or what we call Earth, so hard that a whole 717 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:48,880 Speaker 3: bunch of debris entered orbit, and it later sort of 718 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:53,279 Speaker 3: woo tanged together and formed the thing that we call 719 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:57,320 Speaker 3: the Moon. This happened very slowly. It happened due to 720 00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:03,320 Speaker 3: gravity or possibly alien the do you guys like the 721 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,920 Speaker 3: or possibly We always it's always on the. 722 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,440 Speaker 2: Table because as you said, as you said, all of 723 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,880 Speaker 2: this is theoretical, right, so we believe that this is 724 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,800 Speaker 2: what happened, and it might simp believe. We've known that 725 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,879 Speaker 2: something collided with Earth in order to form the moon, 726 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,400 Speaker 2: unless the moon just got parked there, right, that's the 727 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:26,799 Speaker 2: creator hypothesis, that something drove the moon, put it there, 728 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,520 Speaker 2: or created the moon out of a bunch of stuff 729 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,680 Speaker 2: and made it as so, so it's. 730 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 3: Lord Soul is simulation and you get like you get 731 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,560 Speaker 3: an option when you start the game and you say 732 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:38,480 Speaker 3: how many moons? 733 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,440 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, But the closest thing that science has to 734 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:46,040 Speaker 2: understanding why in the hell moon? Why moon? How moon? 735 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:50,680 Speaker 2: It is this, right, an impact event of two planets 736 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:54,480 Speaker 2: is a protoplanet and a planet that's forming. And it 737 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,080 Speaker 2: just blows my mind because it feels like the kind 738 00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 2: of thing that I would have I should have memories 739 00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,000 Speaker 2: of learning as a kid, because it would help me 740 00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,200 Speaker 2: understand where we are right now and how we got 741 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 2: to this place. And isn't that kind of what all 742 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:11,040 Speaker 2: of this is in pursuit of figuring out how we 743 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,600 Speaker 2: got here, what's happened before, and what might come next. 744 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:19,319 Speaker 3: What might come next is the most mission critical part. 745 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:25,800 Speaker 3: One cool story about the concept of FA is that 746 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 3: this collision may have also been what brought h twoo 747 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,440 Speaker 3: to the planet in large amounts. 748 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:34,160 Speaker 2: And I like that. 749 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:35,200 Speaker 3: I like that story. 750 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:39,000 Speaker 2: Well, that's cool. It's a life giver, right, We're just 751 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,759 Speaker 2: learning about comets and asteroids that even the ones that 752 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,440 Speaker 2: are Transmutonian way out there in the Kuiper Belt, a 753 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:49,080 Speaker 2: lot of these things have sugars on them along. 754 00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,200 Speaker 3: With water, right a, medio acids as well. 755 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,600 Speaker 2: Things that all of the requirements for life are on 756 00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,320 Speaker 2: these things floating around in space. And if I don't know, 757 00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,239 Speaker 2: just sorry, guys. I'm a little overwhelmed by all of 758 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:06,000 Speaker 2: this because it is such a deeper understanding of the 759 00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,000 Speaker 2: of our Solar system in a way that Panspermia now 760 00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,120 Speaker 2: no longer seems like a crazy idea. 761 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 3: What it never was, Well, well, just a dumb it's 762 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,800 Speaker 3: a hilarious name, but it's a really good concept. 763 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,719 Speaker 2: It is, but it was it was ridiculed for a time. 764 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:23,480 Speaker 2: In the same way the concept of Nibiru was ridiculed. 765 00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,680 Speaker 2: Oh so you're saying comets and stuff just like hit 766 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,000 Speaker 2: the earth and they had all this stuff. Okay, oh 767 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:30,279 Speaker 2: Lucas comic guy. 768 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:34,680 Speaker 3: Good, hey, comic guy, Where's where's your where's your wada? 769 00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:36,000 Speaker 2: Well, it's the same thing. 770 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,560 Speaker 3: I don't know why that from Boston. 771 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:42,200 Speaker 2: I love where's your wada? Comic guy, It's the same thing. 772 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,160 Speaker 2: Abvi Lobe is railing against right now. He's yelling at 773 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,400 Speaker 2: NASA and the scientific community and the boffins, if you 774 00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:53,520 Speaker 2: will for having this air of we have the knowledge, 775 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,239 Speaker 2: we know what is happening, so we will talk down 776 00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,680 Speaker 2: at anything and anyone who comes to us with a 777 00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,120 Speaker 2: more out their concept, would you say? 778 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:07,440 Speaker 3: It harkens back to our earlier conversation at the top 779 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:11,880 Speaker 3: of this episode about religion and science. At a certain point, 780 00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:17,440 Speaker 3: academics can act a little bit dismissive, a little bit zealous, 781 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,080 Speaker 3: a little bit like priest. 782 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,080 Speaker 2: Because they control the information. They're the only ones who 783 00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 2: can read. 784 00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,719 Speaker 3: The Bible that's going to come back to haunt me. 785 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:29,160 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I want to vulgate version of all 786 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:30,799 Speaker 3: scientific knowledge. 787 00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,320 Speaker 4: To test the season for hauntings. Though you know the 788 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,320 Speaker 4: ghosts of Christmas past and all that. 789 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,319 Speaker 2: Yes, well, just to add on to here, when we're 790 00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,600 Speaker 2: talking about all this stuff, Yeah, the avvy lobe of 791 00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:46,080 Speaker 2: it all, think back to what we learned about Apophus 792 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:51,160 Speaker 2: a long time ago. I recall videos watching Neilo grass 793 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,360 Speaker 2: Tyson talking about this near Earth asteroid of Office and 794 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:59,200 Speaker 2: how in twenty twenty nine it could potentially impact Earth. 795 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:03,200 Speaker 2: There's like a you know, astronomers do their absolute best 796 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:08,520 Speaker 2: to understand the full timing and orbit of near Earth objects, 797 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,520 Speaker 2: asteroids and things like that, right, but there's a little 798 00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:11,720 Speaker 2: stuff they can throw it off. 799 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,520 Speaker 3: And we're working with the information we have, which is 800 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,880 Speaker 3: never all of the information correct. 801 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,040 Speaker 2: So when you've got a near Earth asteroid that has 802 00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,480 Speaker 2: potential to impact Earth because there are going to be 803 00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:25,319 Speaker 2: those those slight deviations in its orbit, you can say 804 00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,759 Speaker 2: something the way Neilder grass Tyson did. It's possible that 805 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,920 Speaker 2: this thing, you know, that's around eleven hundred feet wide 806 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,720 Speaker 2: could impact Earth and it would be like the kind 807 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,640 Speaker 2: that wreaked havoc on Earth previous times. 808 00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:39,880 Speaker 4: Right. 809 00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:45,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're in a you're in a three dimensional pen 810 00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:51,320 Speaker 3: ball machine, and you not only don't have a flipper, 811 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,960 Speaker 3: but you can't see where the balls are coming from. 812 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,080 Speaker 2: Yes, And we've been in that situation since we've been here, 813 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,600 Speaker 2: right with the ability to look up at things and 814 00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,400 Speaker 2: take notes, and we're going to continue to be in 815 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 2: that place, and we're going to continue to discover new 816 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,480 Speaker 2: things that are far out there. So you can, like 817 00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,800 Speaker 2: our alma mater, how stuff works. In their article that 818 00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,080 Speaker 2: they wrote way back in the day of the Truth 819 00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:17,400 Speaker 2: behind the Road planet Nebiu, which was updated in twenty 820 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,160 Speaker 2: twenty three, you can find out Mark Mancini wrote that, 821 00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:24,000 Speaker 2: but in the end, this is the last line spoiler alert. 822 00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,719 Speaker 2: The jury is in Neburu's just a hoax, and you 823 00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:28,879 Speaker 2: can go that route and believe that, and that's that's 824 00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,400 Speaker 2: fine in the case of Nebiu. It's just we have 825 00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:36,400 Speaker 2: to caution ourselves against taking that same thought process with 826 00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:42,120 Speaker 2: any other potential planet that's potentially observed. Right that early stage, 827 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:46,279 Speaker 2: before Neptune was officially in the lexicon of planets, when 828 00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,080 Speaker 2: it was just a blip out there in some strange 829 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,520 Speaker 2: orbits that seem to be off by a little bit. 830 00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:53,680 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, long story short, right, new things 831 00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,440 Speaker 4: are being discovered all the time, and like science is advancing, 832 00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:01,200 Speaker 4: and observational technology is advancing, and you know, hopefully the 833 00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:02,880 Speaker 4: space program will continue to advance. 834 00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,719 Speaker 3: We'll see. But I mean, yeah, it's like you. 835 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:07,759 Speaker 4: Don't want to close yourself off to this concept of 836 00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:12,319 Speaker 4: future discoveries. I mean, it's that slippery slope of being 837 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,719 Speaker 4: so egocentric as a society and as a species that 838 00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:17,560 Speaker 4: we think we know all the things that there are 839 00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:19,279 Speaker 4: to know. It's I think it's as simple as that. 840 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:23,440 Speaker 3: Right, there's so much more to do. Oh the places 841 00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,960 Speaker 3: you will go. Right, it says the universe hopefully had 842 00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:31,560 Speaker 3: to be clear mark in our Alma mater house. Stuff works. 843 00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,719 Speaker 3: When at that last line where he's saying bus just 844 00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,759 Speaker 3: a hoax, I took it to mean they saying the 845 00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:44,759 Speaker 3: BIU doomsday prophecies are a hoax because at this time 846 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:48,040 Speaker 3: there was I don't know, there was a lot of 847 00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:53,680 Speaker 3: research into possibilities of things like we were still using 848 00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:58,759 Speaker 3: the term Roague planet at that point. But you know, look, 849 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:02,439 Speaker 3: we can say this, most if not all, of these 850 00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:08,120 Speaker 3: new Biru cataclysm theories are incorrect, and most, if not 851 00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:12,799 Speaker 3: all end of the world predictions are the same. They 852 00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:19,640 Speaker 3: are incorrect. The world is ending for someone every single day, right, 853 00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:27,080 Speaker 3: but civilization overall not collapsing. If it does, when humans 854 00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:31,120 Speaker 3: are gone, life on Earth is going to continue and 855 00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,960 Speaker 3: there's going to be a lot more stuff out there 856 00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:38,440 Speaker 3: in the ink. Now. We hope this podcast continues for 857 00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:42,719 Speaker 3: three thousand, six hundred years, and if it does turn 858 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:46,440 Speaker 3: out that we are incorrect and we do get smacked 859 00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,520 Speaker 3: while we wait if we do this, guys, help me 860 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,239 Speaker 3: with the math here. If we do this podcast for 861 00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:57,080 Speaker 3: three thousand, six hundred years, are we still going to 862 00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:57,920 Speaker 3: be on Earth. 863 00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:02,160 Speaker 2: When we do it out? On that one, Ben, we 864 00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:03,120 Speaker 2: won't be here. 865 00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:09,920 Speaker 3: It's also true. Okay, all right, the jury, the jury 866 00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:14,720 Speaker 3: has spoken. What do you think? Let's go to Tennessee, Dylon. 867 00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:16,960 Speaker 3: You got any thoughts on this one? When you were 868 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,759 Speaker 3: in Nabiu, What you guys talked about when you talked 869 00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:21,279 Speaker 3: about Earth. 870 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:23,759 Speaker 5: You know, we were trying to figure out if Earth 871 00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,960 Speaker 5: was real, so we had the same you know, conversations 872 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:27,919 Speaker 5: that we're having here. 873 00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:28,839 Speaker 2: But about Earth. 874 00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,120 Speaker 3: Do you guys have rudabagas over there? 875 00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:36,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a whole alternate Rudebiga's universe over there, currency, cars, 876 00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:38,080 Speaker 5: anything you can think of. 877 00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:43,360 Speaker 3: Great, that's our show. Thank you so much for tuning 878 00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,239 Speaker 3: in folks. We hope the end of the year is 879 00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:50,239 Speaker 3: finding you well. We hope this is not the year 880 00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:55,239 Speaker 3: that Nibiru hits the earth. We also can't wait to 881 00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:59,600 Speaker 3: hear from Oh Gosh, Matt Knowles, shall be open the door, 882 00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:01,560 Speaker 3: ask for a strawby. 883 00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,440 Speaker 4: We have an open door policy, as far as I'm concerned, 884 00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,680 Speaker 4: we have an open door, open earth policy. 885 00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:11,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can call us on a phone. You can 886 00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,920 Speaker 3: always send us an email, and you can find us 887 00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:15,000 Speaker 3: on the lines. 888 00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,440 Speaker 4: Boy, can you ever find us all over the lines 889 00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,160 Speaker 4: at the handle conspiracy stuff where we exist on Facebook 890 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,760 Speaker 4: with our conspiracy Facebook group Here's where it gets crazy, 891 00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:26,360 Speaker 4: on xfka, Twitter, and on YouTube where we got videos 892 00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,080 Speaker 4: of some kind. You can also find us on Instagram 893 00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,640 Speaker 4: and TikTok at the handle conspiracy Stuff Show. And if 894 00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,160 Speaker 4: I'm not mistaken, I think there's more. 895 00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,520 Speaker 2: Yes, we have a phone number. It is one eight 896 00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:41,760 Speaker 2: three three st d WYTK. Change those letters into numbers. 897 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,200 Speaker 2: Call the number. You'll get our voicemail system. Leave a 898 00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:49,160 Speaker 2: three minute voicemail. Inside that voicemail, please say a nickname, 899 00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,239 Speaker 2: give yourself a nickname, and let us know whether we 900 00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,680 Speaker 2: can use your name and message on the air. If 901 00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,480 Speaker 2: you've got other things that you want to type out instead, 902 00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,520 Speaker 2: why not send us a good old fashioned email. 903 00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:02,920 Speaker 3: We are these that read each piece of correspondence we receive. 904 00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:06,960 Speaker 3: Be well aware, yet I'm afraid sometimes the void writes back. 905 00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:12,480 Speaker 3: Actually pretty often, we've got some homework. Here's a random 906 00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:17,760 Speaker 3: thing from one of our favorite books. Depraved and insulting 907 00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,880 Speaker 3: English guys. I'm gonna flip through. Just say when. 908 00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:22,920 Speaker 2: When all right? 909 00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:30,320 Speaker 3: There we go, folks, fabiform shaped like a bean. I 910 00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,240 Speaker 3: don't know if that's depraved or insulting, but I guess 911 00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:36,640 Speaker 3: they had to write the whole book anyway. Conspiracy at 912 00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:40,400 Speaker 3: iHeartRadio dot com for more strange, random facts. 913 00:57:58,080 --> 00:57:59,960 Speaker 2: Stuff they don't want you to know. Is a product 914 00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:04,720 Speaker 2: of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, 915 00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,680 Speaker 2: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.