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Speaker 1: Chats Motherfucker? Yappy hour makes up. When we started this show,
Speaker 1: we said that there was no platform for legends. When
Speaker 1: you have ten, fifteen years or more in this game,
Speaker 1: they want to call you old, they want to call
Speaker 1: you washed up, they want to say this over for you.
Speaker 1: And all genres of movement like rock and roll, jazz,
Speaker 1: whatever the older you get, the more season you get.
Speaker 1: I wanted to change that in hip hop, so instead
Speaker 1: of us can playing about it, we did what the
Speaker 1: funk we had to do. So when we throught of
Speaker 1: this show, the person that's here that's our guest today
Speaker 1: is the Empity of me of that is the guard
Speaker 1: m C. He's my favorite MC of all times. I
Speaker 1: never even told him that this makes me a kind
Speaker 1: of fake nigger, like I told him that, like I
Speaker 1: said texting right. One of the best business man. He
Speaker 1: showed Queen's Bridge people that not only you can be
Speaker 1: from the hood, but you can transition yourself into being
Speaker 1: a real full fledged businessman from the world. Showed the
Speaker 1: world this man has done whatever he had to do
Speaker 1: countless times and he's on top. He's number one m C.
Speaker 1: One of the illdest lyrically ever inclined, keeping the classy,
Speaker 1: keeping the clup. See, I've never seen them on a
Speaker 1: bump day. Neither then they've never had one bump day,
Speaker 1: Like everybody has a bump day. Nows like at one
Speaker 1: point you're gonna come outside like a you got to.
Speaker 1: But if you don't know what we're talking about, me too,
Speaker 1: about Niles by the way, By the way, they still
Speaker 1: like being called Niles Estoball or yeah you don't give up,
Speaker 1: Yeah I don't give a thing. Cool got them you
Speaker 1: already drinking before me. So right now we're celebrating lost tapes.
Speaker 1: So let's take those those tapes too. So let's break
Speaker 1: down the origin of lost tapes. Lost tapes is the
Speaker 1: records that didn't make the album. You could make an
Speaker 1: album out of your side, but yeah, yeah, you know
Speaker 1: you got the records that you didn't he wasn't sure about,
Speaker 1: so you just they sit around. What's spending time? Is
Speaker 1: this that these records are like win and win, like
Speaker 1: two thousands seven to last year. Yeah, it's different albums. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: a couple of albums. So the crazy thing is, um, first, um,
Speaker 1: first time I actually met you, met you was on
Speaker 1: Vernon Boulevard. I think he was going on tour and
Speaker 1: you was your your homeboys is playing this record that
Speaker 1: I've never heard before in my life. I heard it
Speaker 1: one time one time, Odie. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: remember this story. I'm walking through Vernon Bulevard cause you
Speaker 1: shotted me out without actually meeting me, like like, and
Speaker 1: I finally met you. They it was playing this record.
Speaker 1: Now you tell me if I'm bugging it was there's
Speaker 1: a lady cops sucking the thugs dick on some bug ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah that record up. No, he's looking at little STAPs
Speaker 1: for that record. I'm looking to lock. It's the first time.
Speaker 1: I feel like little Wayne bit your ship, oh ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know when I when I heard that song, it
Speaker 1: reminded me of that ship. But I didn't think nobody
Speaker 1: even that. You wouldn't even heard that joint dog. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: No one knows that. I was like, Yo, how long
Speaker 1: ages is? And you heard this record? This was after
Speaker 1: it was written. This was after it was written, and
Speaker 1: this is the fifty dollar Panta sonics. I ain't making
Speaker 1: no noise. He's come on, ain't making no noise with it? Man,
Speaker 1: please get the money. Were walking through Vernon Boulevard and
Speaker 1: obviously obviously uh it was marb Deep that was coming up.
Speaker 1: By the way, um the Prophecy tribute. We'll go right
Speaker 1: to that. I remember they playing in a fifty dollar panastic.
Speaker 1: I remember I was like, damn, this nigga saying that
Speaker 1: he's sucking a lady cop. And I had never knew
Speaker 1: that people can say that. I was so scared. That
Speaker 1: was like a nigga album before Nick albums. That's the truth,
Speaker 1: you know. I remember that song dog like, I think
Speaker 1: Elios might have did that. So I didn't know what
Speaker 1: to do with the song though. You know, that's that's
Speaker 1: that's lost, lost, lost, that's like that's twenties something years ago.
Speaker 1: That's crazy, bro. And of course I shout at you
Speaker 1: out because y'all was coming up and I've seen that
Speaker 1: ship and I'm like, these dudes, these these are the
Speaker 1: dudes right here. So it's like, so queen ship, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, seen them coming up, capone, noriega.
Speaker 1: I knew it was gonna be on. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie to that change. That changed my
Speaker 1: life because, um see, I know, I know you humble
Speaker 1: and um and you don't realize that you're the greatest
Speaker 1: m C of all times, the greatest mc all um.
Speaker 1: You could worry. I'm gonna be cocky for you. This
Speaker 1: is this is where we're here for. Um. I want
Speaker 1: to tell you. I want to get to gotta say
Speaker 1: I'm happy to be here man, man, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just want to tell you what al Matock was, right. Um.
Speaker 1: It was a point in time caress kind of sucked
Speaker 1: us up right clear. It was I was running through
Speaker 1: spar Fit and I was running through Rager's Island. They
Speaker 1: were saying, queens, it's bron snickers. They know I didn't
Speaker 1: not like that. So it was one period. I'm sorry
Speaker 1: cause I've never told you this. This is crazy. It's
Speaker 1: one period that it changed the course of Queens m
Speaker 1: and I don't know if you noticed, I'm sure you
Speaker 1: know it. It was ill matic when when that's a fact. Listen,
Speaker 1: it was Queen's nickers blowing dudes every day. They had
Speaker 1: to get it on because it was it was the
Speaker 1: joke of the town at the time. It would say
Speaker 1: Queen's you turned around here. But the ill Mattic came
Speaker 1: out and was like, all right, you know what you're
Speaker 1: talking about now, because that's how you you you you
Speaker 1: described the picture of Queens and Queensbridge in a way
Speaker 1: like Donald Gorman's to think about why people read books
Speaker 1: in jail as they go to that place. So everybody
Speaker 1: when ill Mattock came out, every body actually it's not
Speaker 1: only just from Queen's braves, but they was from Queen's period.
Speaker 1: Do you know that I heard? Good looking? Though, look
Speaker 1: your Careress story is like, uh, it's incredible. Care Arrest
Speaker 1: is a leader, he's he's one of my favorite rappers ever.
Speaker 1: So when I first when I was putting out the Automatic,
Speaker 1: it was like almost two show care Arrest one. It
Speaker 1: was almost that was part of my drive because I
Speaker 1: had to because of what he had done, so I
Speaker 1: had to. It was part of it. Was like, yo,
Speaker 1: look Caress were here, so you know, he's one of
Speaker 1: my favorites ever. But never mind saying that it changed
Speaker 1: the course of queens or whatever changed the course of
Speaker 1: hip hop period, Like did you even imagine that you
Speaker 1: would just change, like the evolution of hip hop, because it,
Speaker 1: to me, it changed. It was a new era in
Speaker 1: hip hop when Thematic came out. Lyrically yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean we had rock him and we had we had lyrics,
Speaker 1: but it just it felt different after Atmatic. I feel
Speaker 1: you it was like I had represent It was like
Speaker 1: like Norri said that the pressure was on the Borough
Speaker 1: and my projects, so it was like and then just
Speaker 1: getting in the game, you had to have something to say.
Speaker 1: So I definitely had to push it, push, push the
Speaker 1: pen hard because it's not but it never flew and
Speaker 1: people like me, I'm in Miami and I feel like
Speaker 1: I was in Queensbridge listening to what I'm saying. It
Speaker 1: was so vivid, appreciate. I'm not gonna lie to you.
Speaker 1: I think I could quote that album backwards. That's how
Speaker 1: good I know that. I know I know the album
Speaker 1: better than you. I promised to you, I can you.
Speaker 1: I can sumend your verses than because it meant it
Speaker 1: meant so much more than me because we were in
Speaker 1: we were in the pen now when it when it
Speaker 1: came out, when I was in the p now, I
Speaker 1: was locked with the Brooklyn guys. And it was Biggie
Speaker 1: and it was it was a Buckshot. It was Buckshot
Speaker 1: and and and I knew mind you. I have met
Speaker 1: you through a Canelli, but I didn't know that was you.
Speaker 1: And then when you said when I was twelve, I
Speaker 1: went to health of stuffing, Jesus, what was room with you?
Speaker 1: Sack or waving automatic guns and nothing? Everybody ever? Did
Speaker 1: everybody ever actually that question? When you were twelve? Me
Speaker 1: went the health is nothing, Jesus. I was. I was
Speaker 1: sick at um what was happening in the black community.
Speaker 1: And I felt like what was pushed on us uh
Speaker 1: on a religious level, um was before my time. You know,
Speaker 1: the Black church is powerful, definitely been there through the
Speaker 1: Civil rights and all of that, and still powerful to
Speaker 1: this day. But I was I didn't see it as
Speaker 1: a black thing. I didn't see it as I saw
Speaker 1: no ones coming to save us, you know, So I
Speaker 1: just felt like it's me against the world. Had a
Speaker 1: very rebellious spirit back then, like serious. So yeah, but
Speaker 1: you know, I love Jesus. That's my man. That's my man.
Speaker 1: And it's also a rumor that's been looking around that
Speaker 1: it was you and Acnelli together. What you mean, like
Speaker 1: like when y'all went to the deal or is that
Speaker 1: true or something like that? We used to go um
Speaker 1: the Columbiada. You're talking abou No, not before that, being
Speaker 1: accused to meet me at the last car on the
Speaker 1: train and we're gonna go here, or I'm gonna come
Speaker 1: pick you up and we're gonna go shop. These tapes
Speaker 1: I Cannella used to get me like motivated to go
Speaker 1: shop demos. He for somehow knew he knew where the
Speaker 1: officers was, he knew who to go see, he knew
Speaker 1: he made meetings with them, He booked meetings with like
Speaker 1: like real people. The barbecue and all that after after
Speaker 1: because I met him doing a lot of the barbecue.
Speaker 1: So he was like thinking like a businessman like he
Speaker 1: was about it. I didn't. I was like, are we
Speaker 1: really going to these going to these offices, like yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah for sure. You know I joined the Taliban right now,
Speaker 1: you've seen them lately. Look, you know you're going crazy,
Speaker 1: pup don so. So I need to ask this question
Speaker 1: because as a fan, this is a hip hop fan.
Speaker 1: No Wu Tang came and they destroyed ship, but it
Speaker 1: was a skin on Ghost Face album. Yeah, goddamnit, dj J,
Speaker 1: what's what's rock? That's a skin? When they said a
Speaker 1: big nas ship, Yeah, they said ship. Um it was um,
Speaker 1: that was a talk. So that was a talk. I
Speaker 1: just I couldn't believe he said it. So, um, it's
Speaker 1: over the album cover right because Biggie because I had
Speaker 1: a picture of young me on the cover, and then
Speaker 1: Notorious b I g rest in Peace had a um
Speaker 1: picture of a baby that was going to be him,
Speaker 1: supposed to be him. So of course people start comparing
Speaker 1: because they was comparing us anyway. So then the album
Speaker 1: cover came and it was like, oh, so Ghost said it.
Speaker 1: I said, Uh, it's straight blood sport out here. It's war. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: When Ghost said that ship on um a raised tape,
Speaker 1: Oh that was crazy. That was crazy, man, because because
Speaker 1: it was something after that I think puff Big called me.
Speaker 1: You've never heard this story? Now, Yeah, Big called me
Speaker 1: and he's like, yo, fucking with the wound niggers. You
Speaker 1: knew they said that ship. And he was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: that's how you feel away, bro, because me and him
Speaker 1: was tight, so we you know. I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: I mean that's ghosts, ghost faces, ghost face, there's no
Speaker 1: love loss. I didn't know he's gonna say this ship.
Speaker 1: And he was just he was a little disappointed because
Speaker 1: he wasn't trying to bite off my ship. No, no,
Speaker 1: just just in general because he he wasn't coming at
Speaker 1: it like that. Because if you listen to this album
Speaker 1: he rapped from you tell the whole story and ship.
Speaker 1: So I never I didn't look I didn't look at
Speaker 1: like like, I didn't look at it that. It was
Speaker 1: just competition at that time. So at that time, I
Speaker 1: was like, I was riding with that a little bit
Speaker 1: because it was competition. So it was just one for me.
Speaker 1: Other than that, bust Of Rhymes had told me a
Speaker 1: story because I bust Of called me all care bust
Speaker 1: I forget Buster said, yo, tell nas about the one
Speaker 1: time it was you him and method Man in the studio.
Speaker 1: And Big was supposed to come up, and Big didn't
Speaker 1: want to woke up flights, the stairs, the elevator. The
Speaker 1: elevator was broken, and Big had a car accident, so
Speaker 1: he had a cane and he's like, dude, he said,
Speaker 1: I love your niggers, but I ain't want to like
Speaker 1: the stairs with this bro. His ship was broke. Something
Speaker 1: was broke. He had a car accident. Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: a crazy session. That was gonna be some ship. So
Speaker 1: I didn't lea no verse. But the next day Big
Speaker 1: came and and he did his ship. You know, that's
Speaker 1: the only verse that Big when that pocket, Yes, the
Speaker 1: double album, will the double album. He had some verses
Speaker 1: for him, but you're right, that was the one when
Speaker 1: he went right at him, right, Adam, you bust have
Speaker 1: played me that verse. I was gonna bring her here,
Speaker 1: but I said I don't think I should. I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't think I should. So that's that's so. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: it comes a time after Illmatic right where it was written. Well, now,
Speaker 1: oh I like that. I like that. I like so
Speaker 1: so it changed from the project kid to like, uh uh, Big,
Speaker 1: the big guy. I remember track master tone. We're asking
Speaker 1: him so you'll track myster tone I want to do?
Speaker 1: Um uh, what's what's this thing with Lorman? My toes said,
Speaker 1: I will never give you that record, I said, jess Us,
Speaker 1: and did you will see at lash from? Because you
Speaker 1: you you? It was almost like you not like a backpacker.
Speaker 1: I don't want to say like a back poper. You
Speaker 1: was like the king of the underground. And then as
Speaker 1: you transition to it was written it was like, now
Speaker 1: you're a boss. But as soon as you become a boss,
Speaker 1: people kind of you know what I'm saying. Did you
Speaker 1: did you like see that? Like crossover? Yeah? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: big time, big time. When when we first put off
Speaker 1: the record, it was a white label, so they didn't
Speaker 1: know who was singing it, so they didn't know it
Speaker 1: was her, So they're thinking, why is somebody singing on
Speaker 1: this on your record? Bro? Like what's going on? And
Speaker 1: I'm like, Dog, that's the that's Hohodini, the beat, that's Whodini,
Speaker 1: that's something she's singing. Curtis bow Dog. This is this
Speaker 1: is hip hop to me. Um, it sounds good for
Speaker 1: radio too, but I'm just saying it's hip hop. So
Speaker 1: this is what we This is what we're doing the
Speaker 1: way the way the thing was changing. It was like
Speaker 1: radio was opening up to us. Hot Night the seven
Speaker 1: was now a thing, and that's opening up to us.
Speaker 1: So if we can have a record that the streets
Speaker 1: is into but also has a appeal to go a
Speaker 1: massive hill, to go massive massive, then you had to
Speaker 1: do that. We had to do that to get to
Speaker 1: the next level, because you know, that was just the
Speaker 1: the challenge was to just you can't just be rapping.
Speaker 1: You gotta make records too. It's like keeping your authenticity
Speaker 1: but still for sure. And then and then it's Lauren Hill,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, So not that I'm so good.
Speaker 1: Then it's Lauren Hill. So it's like but then of
Speaker 1: course you know people wasn't ready for the transition. And
Speaker 1: now and now you're on tour with Mary J. Blige,
Speaker 1: Nigga's out there out there's stepping on ship. Yeah there
Speaker 1: doing it Like like is that what you're at in life?
Speaker 1: Because you know we're here, we read all you know
Speaker 1: the about the stock and everything you got is like
Speaker 1: when you come out as there's things that you want
Speaker 1: to do. You know what I'm saying, because I feel
Speaker 1: like you wanted to do the tour, like I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things you can say no to. Yeah.
Speaker 1: We've been talking about it for a while. So after
Speaker 1: New Year's I've seen her and we's all hanging out
Speaker 1: and um, I said, Yo, do you want tour this? Yeah?
Speaker 1: She was like, Yo, yeah, let's do it. So I
Speaker 1: was like, wait, wait a time out. That's how y'all
Speaker 1: said it. Y're just somewhere said it's easy. I heard
Speaker 1: her up, I leave friends like you now let's make that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah called. I said, Yo, you want to do this tour?
Speaker 1: She's like, let's do it. Let's do it, and she
Speaker 1: was serious about it. So it was just a great time.
Speaker 1: And your first date was Miami. Yeah, West Palm, West
Speaker 1: Palm and the show was crazy. Bro. Yeah yeah. Shout
Speaker 1: out to Mary. She's she's honored to be on tour
Speaker 1: with her man her from What's the four one one
Speaker 1: for Gan Pouba. She's always been at hip hop queen,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it's like queen of
Speaker 1: pop soul, you know. So that's a sister. That's a sister.
Speaker 1: Before we move on, I want to say welcome on.
Speaker 1: My brother do was man, I miss you man. You know, um,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm welcome home. My brother got damn okay.
Speaker 1: But but when you said, when you said hip hop
Speaker 1: is dead, how many like dms you got from the
Speaker 1: young niggas? You know what I'm saying, Like it was
Speaker 1: to kill me, man, because what you were saying was
Speaker 1: explain to what you people you're saying it's dead. I
Speaker 1: was just because we didn't have no control. And it's like,
Speaker 1: you know a lot of people took offense to it
Speaker 1: that I didn't think it was gonna take offense. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about, let's wake up and take control. As soon
Speaker 1: as we put out a record, there's some political or
Speaker 1: some religious or whoever leader in the community that's trying
Speaker 1: to build a name off you and start to protest
Speaker 1: your record. As soon as you try to build your
Speaker 1: company or trying to be independent all the labels, you
Speaker 1: run into trouble, you know. So it was it was
Speaker 1: so many people in control of where this thing was going.
Speaker 1: And it's like I thought, we's had a great time
Speaker 1: to turn this aroundt didn't control it basically, not like
Speaker 1: not like what happened, not like what's going on today.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And also, you know, um,
Speaker 1: I probably thought a few a few people could have
Speaker 1: stopped making records. I probably thought you couldn't even say
Speaker 1: something about noise one time. That's not that's not hire.
Speaker 1: I was dead. That's this was family ship. That's what's
Speaker 1: mad about something. Stay here Because at the time when
Speaker 1: you said that he was living in Atlanta, Yeah, out
Speaker 1: of cribb in Atlanta, crib and McDonough, Georgia. Okay, but
Speaker 1: that's who took an offense to it, right, man, Atlanta
Speaker 1: took offense because because Little had a shirt that hip
Speaker 1: Hop and Die lives in the South man. So I felt,
Speaker 1: you know, I did that, but they know, so I
Speaker 1: felt like I felt like, damn, it's it's not really
Speaker 1: I didn't get the point off right because the wrong people.
Speaker 1: I wasn't attacking Louda and my guys. No, no, it
Speaker 1: wasn't the case. It was just like tell you true.
Speaker 1: I forgot why I said it. But essentially it was
Speaker 1: so long ago. It's something pissed me off. Something pissed
Speaker 1: me off. Essentially, the breakdancing, the graffiti that's what you mean,
Speaker 1: right to breakdance and the graffiti culture. It was. It
Speaker 1: was all of this stuff that even today, a lot
Speaker 1: of people don't care about it, and I like to.
Speaker 1: I like to care about it, Like I like what
Speaker 1: you say about when the show starts, like give them
Speaker 1: their roses while you could smell them. A lot of
Speaker 1: people don't realize the great history here. That's that's that's
Speaker 1: why we're trying to well, that's why we are building
Speaker 1: a hip hop museum and the Bronx, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because it should have been here, It should
Speaker 1: have been should have been this way over due. We're
Speaker 1: building one here because it'll be great. Because sometimes the
Speaker 1: kids don't see why they shouldn't go far, go that
Speaker 1: far back to to listen to some ship, you know,
Speaker 1: but if you go back there, you might discover some
Speaker 1: new ship that you could be doing. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like I looked at them old dudes, or
Speaker 1: I don't want to call them old, but the pioneers,
Speaker 1: and I learned from them. I learned from them, and
Speaker 1: so it's like it's important that the kids today know
Speaker 1: how important they are to this whole thing too, you know.
Speaker 1: You know, one of the one of the one of
Speaker 1: my favorite days of my life was. We was in
Speaker 1: Massive Hill office and because I had thought Rock Kim
Speaker 1: and Eric B was toring, idn't. I didn't know that
Speaker 1: because I see rock Him, but I see Eric B
Speaker 1: by itself. I didn't know that Eric being Rock Kim.
Speaker 1: I hadn't been together so long. So he said to me,
Speaker 1: you said your Nori, you want to go to the
Speaker 1: Eric B and Rock Kim show. And I was like
Speaker 1: leaving it up to me now, yeah, and then we
Speaker 1: went there. So this is this is the favorite part
Speaker 1: of my time, as as all the accolades you got
Speaker 1: as much as you know, you can say, you the man.
Speaker 1: I saw you sit there and pay homage to Rock Him.
Speaker 1: It was the best day of my life. Bro. It
Speaker 1: was best just to see you humble, you like like
Speaker 1: you were sitting there. And then Rock Him started to
Speaker 1: do like two or three records that I never heard of.
Speaker 1: I thought I was the biggest Rock Him fan. And
Speaker 1: I watched SNAs you knew every word I love. I said,
Speaker 1: this is why I sneak as the king of hip hop?
Speaker 1: Can you remember that day? That was a great day.
Speaker 1: That was a great day. I got my big change.
Speaker 1: I just got my big change. The first day heavy.
Speaker 1: So you're really a student of the game of hip hop.
Speaker 1: I love it. I think I am. Ok you too, though,
Speaker 1: yes I am too. But now now my throat because
Speaker 1: we all up their age, So my throat something at
Speaker 1: all of us. What are you listening to right now?
Speaker 1: A new new nigga nas niggak. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: Dirk snigger, a little dirt, okay, a little Dirk, A
Speaker 1: little Dirk. He just came home, right, he just came
Speaker 1: home with the baby. The baby, the baby, the baby
Speaker 1: and his little baby. Now, no white gotta be someone
Speaker 1: new old Dreamville joint, Dreamville joint. Oh, Jay Cole, that's accomplished.
Speaker 1: The revenge of thevenge. What's that called? Don't because the
Speaker 1: niggas got ball homie reason from TVs problem. That's what
Speaker 1: you're listening to? Dirk a little bit? Yeah, the baby,
Speaker 1: um little baby or the baby, both of them. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's hard. That's that's forget. That was that was That
Speaker 1: was old Bam My answer right there, that was that
Speaker 1: was that was um who for sure? For sure Davies
Speaker 1: for sure family in retrospect um, like I have to
Speaker 1: say it like that, but always people always say you
Speaker 1: the second coming of rock him. I feel like Davis
Speaker 1: is the second coming of Nos or he's just his pause,
Speaker 1: his own coming up coming. You know, I don't know
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, but you know what I mean. Um,
Speaker 1: I think I think Davis is the first Davies Todd. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's hard because sometimes that name and it would be
Speaker 1: feeling like some people don't like that. So I would
Speaker 1: be honored for somebody to call him that personally. But
Speaker 1: he's his own man for sure. Have you have you
Speaker 1: ever seen somebody never mind you of you like like
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, Like you know, everybody
Speaker 1: bite your style and ship um like like they you said,
Speaker 1: holy shit, Uh Loupe fraz Loupe or season Loupe. You
Speaker 1: know it's two different loops now now Karatele baby Charibe
Speaker 1: is hard, Yeah, both for them, both for them. Loupe, No,
Speaker 1: that's my nigger. I got love for Loupe. I just
Speaker 1: still want him to apologize to trim Core question from
Speaker 1: that day when he came out there and he messed
Speaker 1: them cute tip lyrics. Remember, I just wanted to say,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's it. So I'll be on Loupe's athlete.
Speaker 1: You know, I love him as a brother and as
Speaker 1: a fan. But you know he went out on Tropical Quest.
Speaker 1: You don't remember it was a tribute to Tripic Core Quest.
Speaker 1: That's it. I love Loupe like clear. I just want
Speaker 1: to want to show coming up too. Oh all right?
Speaker 1: Yeah you so you don't even knowing what you know?
Speaker 1: You ever throw a hip hop? Like? I know? I
Speaker 1: know this is like a cliche type of question. You
Speaker 1: ever throw a hip hop? Really best? I always wanted
Speaker 1: to be. I can't. I can't say that. Um, I
Speaker 1: thought that your own wings chap, Yes it is, you
Speaker 1: can have that, NAS's yes, it's not. Oh oh god,
Speaker 1: we didn't have to ask you. Oh God, it's chance, baby,
Speaker 1: Yes we have to ask you. God, damn the God.
Speaker 1: And see what you say. Don't matter what you would
Speaker 1: you like that? Would you like a shot? Nas anything?
Speaker 1: You're doing what you want. Okay, let's let's do a shot.
Speaker 1: We ain't gonna say what shot we doing? Um, it's
Speaker 1: not a wingstop, by the way, man, shout the wingstop
Speaker 1: who provided us some wings to shut out the cherry.
Speaker 1: That's best by bestos bests. Ain't gone be so mad?
Speaker 1: Advertisement talk about rich found niggers. Stop stop, stop about
Speaker 1: this episode about you, brother. This episode is I'll do
Speaker 1: so you know what I want to do. The Queen's
Speaker 1: get the money, but you know I want to big
Speaker 1: up too who I feel like don't get as much props,
Speaker 1: and I feel like it's one of the best executives
Speaker 1: ever in the world. And I know no one's not
Speaker 1: gonna know. Horm about to say right now, Jungle. No,
Speaker 1: that's that's one of my favorite I tell him that,
Speaker 1: and we've always been when I say it, so he
Speaker 1: think I'm playing, but I'm like a jungle. You're my
Speaker 1: favorite executive. Like because he was hood, he knew exactly
Speaker 1: what to do. Like do you remember we made Body
Speaker 1: in the Truck. I can't forget that. I can't you
Speaker 1: know wait how wait you mean the way we came
Speaker 1: up with it was it was it was it was jungle,
Speaker 1: It was Jungle. But before we get into that, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you a crazier story.
Speaker 1: One day were in at the studio, me you and
Speaker 1: It's Nature Session. So Me and You was both for
Speaker 1: Nature Session and NASA. It's it's the song. It winded
Speaker 1: up being called you with threat, but me and You're
Speaker 1: in the studio and Nate just said so track master tone,
Speaker 1: track masters, period plays the record, and Nation said you're
Speaker 1: gonna take this ship. I'm gonna go home, and me
Speaker 1: and you just looked at each other and as soon
Speaker 1: as nature rolled out and you just bodied the whole reord.
Speaker 1: You don't remember that there at first it was just
Speaker 1: me and you. You remember he came back, and then
Speaker 1: he came back. Then we was found niggas throwing it
Speaker 1: out this so your drive, it was your drive though,
Speaker 1: was like nothing I've never seen drinking motivated me. Thank
Speaker 1: you somewhere like with you, and I'm like, if I
Speaker 1: stand next to Homie, we're gonna make some real records.
Speaker 1: So it was your drive, bro, and your vision, bro.
Speaker 1: So it was just riding with you man. Thank you,
Speaker 1: my brother, Thank you, because I don't know if I
Speaker 1: ever told you this, but if it wasn't for I'm leaving,
Speaker 1: I don't think I would have had a solo career.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if you remember, but you guys
Speaker 1: started recalling the Firm album in Miami and you're supposed
Speaker 1: to give me a flight and I never got that flight.
Speaker 1: But you gotta you gotta relax, You can't blame. You
Speaker 1: gotta shut up and just wait for your hunger. And
Speaker 1: then one day Jungle called me. It's like, you've been
Speaker 1: in l A. And I was like, nick I made
Speaker 1: l A, l A. I don't want to go to
Speaker 1: l A. They're like, this is the only holl let
Speaker 1: we need you on the Firm album. And I flew
Speaker 1: out there and you know who the fund is the engineer,
Speaker 1: Dr fucking dre My bro. The only time it's been
Speaker 1: the room with Dr Dre's because you asked that. But
Speaker 1: I want to go there for a second. The Firm album,
Speaker 1: what was the vision to even create the Firm? And
Speaker 1: we need a new firm. But that's it up I
Speaker 1: needed I needed uh my niggers, you know. Um I
Speaker 1: was dolo really so you need to squat up because
Speaker 1: everybody was squatting up. So it's only right. Um you
Speaker 1: had Junior Mafia, you know, you had um even you
Speaker 1: know wood Tag. It's a lot of them, death rows,
Speaker 1: a lot of them, you know. So I had to
Speaker 1: squat up right here, and let's I want to want
Speaker 1: to record reflect because all of people throught up in
Speaker 1: the air, who put on Foxy Brown, she was signed
Speaker 1: to you. Nah no she no, No, I lost the bet. No, Well,
Speaker 1: can I retract the question. Let's bring up you know
Speaker 1: um A Z introduced me to Foxy. He said, I
Speaker 1: got a girl. I gotta girl that's called I'm like, nah,
Speaker 1: when it's not gonna happen, they this girl Kim, It's
Speaker 1: there's no there's nothing we can do to get anybody
Speaker 1: to go. So Kim was out already before you met Foxy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I lost another back. Gay continues if it felt like
Speaker 1: y'all were creating the firm on mix tapes. I mean
Speaker 1: I might be completely wrong, but that's the way it felt.
Speaker 1: I could answer that, but I'm let him answer it.
Speaker 1: Just doing joint on mix tape, it just felt like
Speaker 1: the firm was being created before our very eyes a
Speaker 1: mix tapes. We we did mix tapes with DJ Clue.
Speaker 1: We started doing stuff to promote the albums. So yeah,
Speaker 1: we started doing that and that became the thing. So
Speaker 1: we were using that. DJ Clue was our key to
Speaker 1: the streets, and we just started doing a lot of
Speaker 1: mix tape stuff because we couldn't wait for the albums
Speaker 1: to come out. Yeah, but but A introduced me to
Speaker 1: Foxy and I met her and I'm like, oh, she's
Speaker 1: a beautiful, beautiful sister. She got bars, Oh she's gonna win.
Speaker 1: So once they saw that I was invested, Um, everybody
Speaker 1: just just went crazy and we were flying up Me,
Speaker 1: Foxy and Um, flying floor to our l A to
Speaker 1: talk to Jimmy Ivy to get it, try to get
Speaker 1: her deal. No. I already had kicked it with Dre
Speaker 1: my first album. He came to one of my shows
Speaker 1: and he was like, Yo, we gotta work together and
Speaker 1: at the Grand Slam Princess Club in l A. And yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah for sure, so so but yeah, but we were
Speaker 1: flying around shopping, shopping with trying to try to get involved.
Speaker 1: But at the end I saw she was already up
Speaker 1: and she was already on her way, so I stepped
Speaker 1: back and let it go. So um and then and
Speaker 1: then so the firm forms. Yeah you figure you figure,
Speaker 1: uh it comes out and then Dr Dre says this
Speaker 1: one line. He says some some ship or the firm flopped.
Speaker 1: Everybody's saying I turn pop or the firm flop. Y'all
Speaker 1: are the reason Dre ain't getting no sleep. So funck
Speaker 1: y'all so so so were you at in your mind
Speaker 1: frame like at that time? I mean, the expectations of
Speaker 1: East Coast dudes rocking with Dr Dre at the time
Speaker 1: was a lot, you know, and um, so it did
Speaker 1: platinum and if it didn't do three or four platinum.
Speaker 1: When Platinumney got gold black. Yeah, I'm gonna go to you.
Speaker 1: Never got that. I didn't. I didn't get to my own.
Speaker 1: I would have my own. I had no idea that
Speaker 1: its actually been platinum. I'm now about to go out
Speaker 1: to give you your platinum. Sure, So so what's your
Speaker 1: what if you had and I needed you on that album? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You was our guy, and talking like that, I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: got a fact I felt. I felt that now I'm
Speaker 1: leaving songs I'm leaving don't want to I'm leaving was
Speaker 1: the song that really was our presence in the streets
Speaker 1: in New York. That was the only song off the
Speaker 1: album that went crazy on mixed shows at night, was this,
Speaker 1: so that talk Now, they didn't hit this and at
Speaker 1: first some of the some of the people was like,
Speaker 1: you know, you're bringing too many queens guys into the fact.
Speaker 1: It's chill. You know, why are you bringing them in
Speaker 1: that talks and I said, now he got to be
Speaker 1: on the joint. So yeah, because they was acting like
Speaker 1: the production was too big for us. Firm bit single.
Speaker 1: We had InVogue singers and their cars flying off the
Speaker 1: roof and the ship he he leveled it and that
Speaker 1: was just our vision. Also just knowing that he's the
Speaker 1: one that's coming, so that talk, that's real ship. But
Speaker 1: that man, I don't know what they're single, but we're
Speaker 1: still gone. We're still gone. We're still but they're singing
Speaker 1: in a little bit. I don't know what they're singling.
Speaker 1: It's like they like the plane coming in right now.
Speaker 1: They're going like this, But we're gonna still go because
Speaker 1: you're the king. M c Okay, now we're here. So
Speaker 1: if you had if you had one album, we gotta
Speaker 1: do a shot. We don't even do shots. This is terrible.
Speaker 1: This is we're not We're not. We're not this new
Speaker 1: shots with everybody. You can pick your poison. We don't
Speaker 1: have to say what it is. You you pick it
Speaker 1: off camera, pick it off cameras. I'm head to Henny
Speaker 1: you right then we're gonna hit the Hendy. Then do
Speaker 1: you want to hit the any exod. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something, Nas, you're the only nigger
Speaker 1: that can make me drink hennessy. You know, last time
Speaker 1: I drank hennessy, I woke up in flatbus and like
Speaker 1: flat bus, we're going flat buys. I'm like, why am
Speaker 1: I here like this? The old flatbus, not the new flatbus,
Speaker 1: not the new flat buys, the old flat buys. So
Speaker 1: god damn, alright, we're gonna do Henny. Listen, listen, let's
Speaker 1: listen now out here. This is beautifu for me. I'm
Speaker 1: keeping it real. I'm keeping it now. Let's keep it real.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. I have so many fights
Speaker 1: before Illmatic came out and well Made came out. I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie. I had at least two weeks I
Speaker 1: didn't fight, wow, because niggas was like your queens. Niggas
Speaker 1: got it. Wow. Why everybody always why they always trying
Speaker 1: to bully queens? Man? No, No, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1: Listen to caress you made a lot of killers. I
Speaker 1: told them you made a lot of killers because that
Speaker 1: queens ship was not funny. Man, It's not funny. So
Speaker 1: a little but you know what, Allmatic little brother. So
Speaker 1: now if you want you to know, we don't want
Speaker 1: you to go away to have to tell you that
Speaker 1: we love you. We don't want to have to you
Speaker 1: go away. It's something happening to tell you that you
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Here right now, your flowers is deserved. Now
Speaker 1: we know you got all accolades, but you know what,
Speaker 1: every now and then we gotta say thank you because
Speaker 1: you know, if it wasn't for Illmatic, there won't be
Speaker 1: no norry. And that's a real ship. You know what
Speaker 1: my em C name was before all Matic, m C
Speaker 1: y'all who with the ball to beam? I wouldn't have worked. No,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have worked. People didn't work. I needed this.
Speaker 1: I needed how you can make up these words? That's
Speaker 1: all about itself. Uage. You gotta trade all your crazy show.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you so funny ship with y'all one day, yo.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if you had the Northern cavan,
Speaker 1: I believe, and your came and you picked me up,
Speaker 1: and me and this nigga both didn't know how to
Speaker 1: roll weed. You remember that I was. I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I'm keeping a hunt. You're gonna look at me different.
Speaker 1: But for like two weeks, I was nas weed roll
Speaker 1: up like that was my dog, like it was cool.
Speaker 1: I was just like, all right, cool. He came up
Speaker 1: and I bowed up, and that's when we do. We're
Speaker 1: gonna flushing metal. And we did not have a driver's license,
Speaker 1: none of I still don't gotta drive. You gotta drives.
Speaker 1: I got him out a few years ago. You're not driving.
Speaker 1: Let's see and tell me what the fun the reason?
Speaker 1: No driving license? Thinkers and Jungle still smoking bogies? Still
Speaker 1: he still smoking both. You're gonna get Jungle to stop
Speaker 1: smoking bogies and I'm gonna get the drivers, like, please,
Speaker 1: let's do that. So your favorite error in hip hop? Even,
Speaker 1: let's do one more shot? I mean I'm into that.
Speaker 1: You don't have to if you don't want to. I'm
Speaker 1: with you. Your favorite error in hip hop? If you
Speaker 1: have to pick one error, one error, run errowt be
Speaker 1: honest because I put them in the order. You Oh
Speaker 1: ship run DMC fat boys. Um that ship was magical
Speaker 1: to me, man, that ship was magical? Is your favorite?
Speaker 1: The early the early eighties, the early eighties, Um, cougie
Speaker 1: not coushie wrap but like before Coushi rap um llo
Speaker 1: coo Jay's original I need to be because the words
Speaker 1: he was using, he had to go to the dictionary
Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, it's real. And then he dropped,
Speaker 1: um that I need the rock the Bells, the new
Speaker 1: one that we all know today. That was crazy. So
Speaker 1: so that error right there was like him and mc
Speaker 1: shan was like, um, it was real crazy because I
Speaker 1: walked to the record store and by the record so, um,
Speaker 1: that was crazy to me. That's number one. That's number one.
Speaker 1: Some of the illest um things that I ever mentioned
Speaker 1: on Drink Champs was I told a person that if
Speaker 1: you want to study hip hop, I think you should
Speaker 1: start from all Mattic and then go backwards. Remember I
Speaker 1: said that, So at first I thought everybody was gonna like,
Speaker 1: that's blasphemy. Ironically, it's only a couple of people who
Speaker 1: said it was blast but everybody because the thing about
Speaker 1: it is, and this is all due respect to our forefathers,
Speaker 1: it really wasn't saying champagne and getting pussy in, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, sometimes that's what we need
Speaker 1: to relate to to get us in. Like the Donald's
Speaker 1: Gones book. So I say that, like, if you study
Speaker 1: illmatic and then go to to cool her reverse engineer
Speaker 1: reverse engineering, and ironically only had two people who disagree
Speaker 1: with me, that's ill. That's ill. It's crazy, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: He just look at me. That's that's very crazy. I'm
Speaker 1: a fan of the show. And I saw you guys
Speaker 1: interview Caress one and he said some words that humble
Speaker 1: me down to the to the floor and we talk
Speaker 1: about yes, sir, and I love the conversation you had.
Speaker 1: You told him that he created a lot of killers
Speaker 1: and queens that should But just to bring him on
Speaker 1: this show and talk about out the art of it,
Speaker 1: it's like, it's like, that's what I love to see.
Speaker 1: So I don't know why I brought that up, because
Speaker 1: he was talking about and then going back and you
Speaker 1: want another show? I feel like you want one more.
Speaker 1: I'm just like, that's it. It's no, you know, I
Speaker 1: really I really appreciate you, though. My brother. Let me
Speaker 1: just tell you something, man, in a lot of ways,
Speaker 1: your birth career because of the album you made, and
Speaker 1: I followed this suit you birth Mark Deep and Mark
Speaker 1: Deep kind of birth CNN, and I will always do
Speaker 1: that so when you got on the Lost tapes. On
Speaker 1: the Lost Tapes, you actually got a tribute to Prodigy. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: breech politics. It's about it's Queens Ridge politics, but it's
Speaker 1: love to him and I do a little more. Man,
Speaker 1: come on, come ain't front. You're like violating me, man,
Speaker 1: give me, give me, come on, man, you're like disrespecting
Speaker 1: me in front of all these people. Man, I'm a man.
Speaker 1: I'm a man out here, nig So, Um, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I sorry. I had a side, not that I thought
Speaker 1: it was just me here. So you gotta join Queen's
Speaker 1: Bridge politics. Now, this is because the thing about Lost
Speaker 1: tapes is taped through different periods. So was that old
Speaker 1: record that was that was last year? What I did that? Yeah? Wow,
Speaker 1: you talked about the memorial, the mural and yeah yeah
Speaker 1: that was last year. Um. I never I never thought
Speaker 1: we'd lose p right, and he lost them too soon.
Speaker 1: They rest in peace. He um. Yes, we can make
Speaker 1: noise for that. Yeah, you know, he um. It's hard
Speaker 1: to get into it because he's not here, right, you know.
Speaker 1: So it's a lot of things that went on that
Speaker 1: I wish never happened, so that you even say I
Speaker 1: wish you never wrote that book. In the rhyme, he said, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was You never know why people do certain things,
Speaker 1: you know, So I think he was probably going through
Speaker 1: a lot of pain. But the politics of every hood,
Speaker 1: you know how it is, the politics of every hood
Speaker 1: is what it is. So if I would have finished
Speaker 1: that song, if I would really have been four or
Speaker 1: five minutes long, to really get into a lot of
Speaker 1: the history that that I that I watched growing up,
Speaker 1: a lot of people that taught me a lot I
Speaker 1: would have to get into. Yeah, God damn it, man,
Speaker 1: I see this shot. Got damn it, God damn it.
Speaker 1: You take a Hennessy, man, take a Hennessy got I
Speaker 1: got damn Yeah, she got real, she got real, she
Speaker 1: got rem she got real. It's only for this NI
Speaker 1: And it's an ex so ain't I ain't? So? Like,
Speaker 1: as a kid, you've growing up loving Hennessey, Do you
Speaker 1: realize you got a fucking job? You got a Hennessy deal?
Speaker 1: Like that's crazy deal, Like you got Hennessey and like
Speaker 1: you you can't tell them that, like to put me
Speaker 1: off the black list? You said, Nike, Yeah what you mean? Yeah,
Speaker 1: they put you on the black list on the black list,
Speaker 1: can you help me? I'll have a Nike. You gotta Nike,
Speaker 1: you something. I'll watch you on Instagram. You got like everything.
Speaker 1: Please can't you tell them? Because I ain't tell them.
Speaker 1: Please give me on the black list? I can do that.
Speaker 1: Do you think do you think there's something called black balled?
Speaker 1: Because you know, like remember when the firm actually dispersed,
Speaker 1: right and it came time for NASTI standing on his own.
Speaker 1: I remember almost each of every member like actually accusing
Speaker 1: maybe you or the industry of that black balling him.
Speaker 1: I'm black balled. Do you think that exists? A black
Speaker 1: balling exists? Do you think that where? Is it something
Speaker 1: that organized? It's really basically people just saying, don't sunk
Speaker 1: with that person. Do you think it's more organized than that? Um? No,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's that deep. Um I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's that deep. I mean, what what is
Speaker 1: black balling? Like? If if somebody says they're gonna black
Speaker 1: ball you, you're gonna let them black ball meeting. So
Speaker 1: I don't really care about it. So I'm sure people
Speaker 1: people tell me all the time, you know, they try
Speaker 1: to black ball you. Sign they try to. I don't
Speaker 1: FaZe me because I'm not letting nobody stop me. So
Speaker 1: people probably try to pull the rug from under my
Speaker 1: feet a couple of times. People trying to pull a
Speaker 1: rug on everybody's feet. If you let them stop you,
Speaker 1: you ain't built for this game. Goddamn serious because so
Speaker 1: so low statee suit. You have a party recently at
Speaker 1: Massive Hill office, and you said you have enough for
Speaker 1: three and four. I do, damn nigga, it's you got records? Yeah,
Speaker 1: not like three and four do. Come on, let's go.
Speaker 1: It's go on, smell you, let's go. You got three
Speaker 1: and four and besides your normal albums, I got yeah,
Speaker 1: I do with some big artists features and I can
Speaker 1: drop another one with features because this one, the two
Speaker 1: I kept it no features. The next one production definitely.
Speaker 1: I got love to all of those guys on man,
Speaker 1: but there's nobody really, there's nobody rapping with me. But
Speaker 1: the next one, the features are crazy on part three. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: let me ask you one question. Is there anybody that
Speaker 1: said no the nis like, is there anybody because I
Speaker 1: feel like you can think about Jesus, I'm just throwing
Speaker 1: it out there, like yours basically here. Yeah, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. I'm what I'm saying. Anybody ever said no,
Speaker 1: like like yo, I ain't working with you or not
Speaker 1: they ain't working with you, like they didn't call back
Speaker 1: Carlos Santana something I don't know, like somebody weird. Come
Speaker 1: on now, pick somebody weird. Don't do that, say Joe Rules.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be faking upset like I'm just playing now.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I want one right now. I didn't. I
Speaker 1: didn't ask for a lot of I didn't really ask
Speaker 1: for a lot to be turned down. Um, there's certain
Speaker 1: people I won't dead call because I just know they're
Speaker 1: not gonna probably do it. Like wh who you? Who
Speaker 1: you winn call? I want to know this. I've seen
Speaker 1: you Flix with Madonna, Nigga, so I know you went there, Nigga.
Speaker 1: Come on, let's go there, let's go there. So who
Speaker 1: who are you going? So? Who would who would not
Speaker 1: be nervous to call? I want to notice that. I
Speaker 1: want to think, uh, because you said it in your rhynd.
Speaker 1: You got naked pictures of God? So like no, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know. That's what I'm saying. They go,
Speaker 1: there's no one like you gotta call God, you got
Speaker 1: you gotta God text message like that and say, yo,
Speaker 1: y'all is I too? So no one's never front on.
Speaker 1: You never wanted to feature that. You never got shot at. Somebody.
Speaker 1: Somebody had to say, no, I can't baby shot. I
Speaker 1: don't probably be heard. Yeah, I'm not saying this coming
Speaker 1: right now. I go, I don't think I called her
Speaker 1: for a record, and I don't think I've a called
Speaker 1: her for I got it. Okay, brents ho, let's take
Speaker 1: it over. We're gonna edit that. We that say I
Speaker 1: got it again, I got it, I got on. Who
Speaker 1: is it? Princes Peace? Prince? As soon as you said prince,
Speaker 1: everything got purple to me right here. I'm just a couple, Okay.
Speaker 1: I didn't hate the story. Now, um did he answer
Speaker 1: the phone? Because I felt like he answered like hello.
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson was low, like hello. Okay. I saw it
Speaker 1: him because he came to my UM I AM album
Speaker 1: released party and no, Princess Prince. So was he flowing?
Speaker 1: He was Okay, he was what he was, and he
Speaker 1: had this bad joint with him and I was like
Speaker 1: yo to the chick from the last dragon vanity, like
Speaker 1: in my mind and my mind, just let's just keep
Speaker 1: the story like that. Now, it's keep going. He was
Speaker 1: with the chicken. He walked in with Avaloni. Let's take
Speaker 1: it from there. That's my own story, your your life.
Speaker 1: Let's go. I can't now I was one of them.
Speaker 1: It's one of them, and I just you know, I
Speaker 1: said it. I said it. I pulled the Nory move.
Speaker 1: I said, yo, look man, look, you know, let's do this.
Speaker 1: Let's do this ang And he was like, you know,
Speaker 1: do you own your master's away? That's but he blew
Speaker 1: my ship because I was like, I don't and I'm
Speaker 1: far from it because this labeled about four or five albums,
Speaker 1: so I was like, damn, drop to jewel to jewel.
Speaker 1: He he kind of helped me see the future and
Speaker 1: he was like, when you're own your master's give me arrange.
Speaker 1: Everybody thought he was crazy the way he was doing
Speaker 1: it with his master. They thought he was crazy. Slow
Speaker 1: clapp slow claps. Slow clap is different. That's when you're like,
Speaker 1: that's hard. But but we um, we kicked it a
Speaker 1: few times. We got cool. He was he was he
Speaker 1: very cool dude to me. He invited me on stage
Speaker 1: and before him, I was like, I can't go out there,
Speaker 1: you know, like like I didn't go because you know,
Speaker 1: you know, Prince might have had his ass out. It's
Speaker 1: different Differry Prince. It's like, you know, I understand, I understand, man,
Speaker 1: that's that's one of the gods man Prince. Yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 1: um he I think everybody went to work with him.
Speaker 1: So the pressure that he had from everybody, what he
Speaker 1: turned Michael Jackson down, the pressure he had for people
Speaker 1: want to work with him, it's crazy. Yeah, so who
Speaker 1: hold up? Damn Oh, we love Prince stories on it
Speaker 1: didn't have it give us a Prince story was having
Speaker 1: said he made the beat Coprins. Okay, but straight you
Speaker 1: went to Wyoming, like and you worked with Kanye. You
Speaker 1: didn't work with the regular Kanye. You work with Maga
Speaker 1: hat Kanye. Did you know it at that point? Did you?
Speaker 1: Did you talking about that? You would just just like,
Speaker 1: you know what, let me let this nig be crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I took it too far. I went to still genius. Man,
Speaker 1: we still love him. I want to be from them
Speaker 1: right now, like take a beat, but I'm gonna te
Speaker 1: him take the hat off, nig. I'm sorry. So so
Speaker 1: he called me and he's like we always talked about
Speaker 1: him producing my album. So I'm like, he's like, you
Speaker 1: ready to this is this album? I was like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's just do this album. So it's all right, Cool,
Speaker 1: We're gonna figure out the schedule. Um. Once we figured
Speaker 1: out schedule, before we started working, he wanted to announce
Speaker 1: the album. And that's not cool because that makes us.
Speaker 1: It puts the pressure on, makes us have to deliver
Speaker 1: the album the next days when h the Trump thing
Speaker 1: when crazy? So my phone's ringing, yo, Wayne, because go
Speaker 1: to the other way. That was tough. That was tough,
Speaker 1: because you know why you like you like the hood Savior.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you you ever accepted this pressure.
Speaker 1: But whatever nas do we do? If NAS rocking Nike,
Speaker 1: we rock Nike. Naas rock Slilke shirts were rock silk shirts.
Speaker 1: If NAS get a half moon in the park, nick
Speaker 1: I just stopped getting a half in the park. Come on,
Speaker 1: come on, you still over there, half moon? So whatever
Speaker 1: you do, we do. So if I'm just curious, like
Speaker 1: ya ever even had that talk or you just like
Speaker 1: you know what, let the music like, it's like me
Speaker 1: and for real, I don't. We're not getting a studio
Speaker 1: with real. I don't talk about ship. It's about music.
Speaker 1: I don't talk about subways, publics when Dixie Pigley Wiggily,
Speaker 1: none of that ship with that nigger. We just just
Speaker 1: chick stick with music. That's all. We got to pretty combination,
Speaker 1: you know. But so did you even like talk about
Speaker 1: that because all you just like sucking stick with the music.
Speaker 1: Who's that Kanye with the Magna hat? Did he kep?
Speaker 1: In my mind, he didn't come into the Maga hat
Speaker 1: right even from Queen's rizns you gotta step it up? Yeah?
Speaker 1: That was that was That was some ship because um,
Speaker 1: you know he got his uh, he got his ways
Speaker 1: of thinking and doing things. You know, that's what's sweat
Speaker 1: he is like nowadays it's called trolling. Do you you
Speaker 1: know what? You know what trolling means? I know you're rich,
Speaker 1: but you know what trolling means, like like trolling is
Speaker 1: like to do something to Yeah, it's a lot. This
Speaker 1: is retro. This is retrostro I would say that Kanye
Speaker 1: is a retro. I think that Kanye is a troll.
Speaker 1: You understand what you're trying to say? The things that
Speaker 1: his way I don't do ship like that. He's he's
Speaker 1: he's a genius at what he does. He pisses people off,
Speaker 1: but he's a good brother. I'm a real good brother.
Speaker 1: I'll take another shot. Um, come on, come on, Mr Lee,
Speaker 1: now your investment because I don't. I don't want take
Speaker 1: a different with my father team. It's about loss takes two,
Speaker 1: so I want to get into that. But i'm your investments.
Speaker 1: Um ring, Yeah, I got that at my door right now.
Speaker 1: That's a fact. I use your investments. Um what else
Speaker 1: is here? Part of uh uh? Box lifting? My son
Speaker 1: got hip to lift right now? Come on, I just
Speaker 1: heard your saying shots and up. But how how did
Speaker 1: you What was the anthony? So I always say that
Speaker 1: you know, dyslexic, dyslexic. You know I'm probably be dyslexic.
Speaker 1: Like at this point, just let me just rote. But
Speaker 1: what was it that said, you know what, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: start doing investments. I wanted to do that from watching
Speaker 1: TV as a kid. I wanted to I wanted to
Speaker 1: be a businessman when I was a kid, Like I
Speaker 1: wanted the office and a briefcase and in a suit,
Speaker 1: and and I wanted to connect dots. I wanted to
Speaker 1: make big things happen. I wanted to see things happen.
Speaker 1: I always wanted to be that, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: life takes you in another direction and you're going to
Speaker 1: music and then after a while comes back around. He's like,
Speaker 1: all right, I got timed down before I didn't have
Speaker 1: no time. I got time now. So it's like something
Speaker 1: like the kid on the internet. I got time today
Speaker 1: because I got time today. You always tell you something
Speaker 1: it's it's the same as you though, you know, like
Speaker 1: it's the same as you. You're a businessman. No, no,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. Nos, I follow you like I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be honest. Um. I wondered that that should hit
Speaker 1: me there in a different way, that should hit different.
Speaker 1: That's it different, goddamnit. So who it's still hit me.
Speaker 1: All right, hold on, let me let me get my
Speaker 1: life together. Wait for one moment, so I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: You're seeing you transition and like becoming the full fledged
Speaker 1: businessman that you are. It's so inspiring. It's so like
Speaker 1: inspirational because I remember, like me, you and Jungle just
Speaker 1: you know, sitting there in Justin's and eating fried fried
Speaker 1: chicken and just like talking about it. And I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you something that I know you don't remember or
Speaker 1: you maybe you have. I filmed you in jungle and um,
Speaker 1: we we're talking about this backpack kid hop at the time,
Speaker 1: and we all hated back back hip the time. I
Speaker 1: won't say what it was, who it was. I don't
Speaker 1: say who it was, but you know what you told me?
Speaker 1: What what's that you said? Your one day they're gonna
Speaker 1: pay you for for your conversation. You are nostro dumis
Speaker 1: That's what you told me. But it's your gift. That's
Speaker 1: that's your gift. Your word play is crazy, bro, That's
Speaker 1: why your flow is crazy. That's why what you yeah,
Speaker 1: what I'm telling you when when you know, I remember
Speaker 1: I met you and also in dn D studio and
Speaker 1: you came to meet me and you told me what
Speaker 1: was going on in your business and what you wanted
Speaker 1: to go on and and and the whole contin his
Speaker 1: whole in R E. R. We was there for that,
Speaker 1: like we got you, let's go. And so anybody that
Speaker 1: want to complain and say somebody's holding me back, this
Speaker 1: is this is proof. We were proof no one can
Speaker 1: hold what's destined to be nobody. So what you did
Speaker 1: was what I did. We got here, we came, we saw,
Speaker 1: we conquered. Anything else, it's bullshit because I know when
Speaker 1: you was getting at with that. No, not because you know,
Speaker 1: I see so many people, because I mean all of
Speaker 1: us as rapp us. We have people who we want
Speaker 1: to bring and bring with us, for sure, but then
Speaker 1: there's certain people that don't want to work, but they
Speaker 1: think that they still deserve to be there. So the
Speaker 1: thing is, you just gotta just put it in yourself.
Speaker 1: So I followed your footsteps, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And I followed what you was doing. So you know what, man,
Speaker 1: we got any more questions? I mean, I want to
Speaker 1: keep talking about how you was going. I want to
Speaker 1: do body in the trunk. I just think that it's
Speaker 1: important for people to understand, like the evolution of how
Speaker 1: we can diversified ourselves. But other things like you said,
Speaker 1: we're doing podcasting, Um, you're doing the enough announced this
Speaker 1: massive pill deal too, that I should go right. You
Speaker 1: just announced it right now. In case you don't know,
Speaker 1: every time you hear drink chance that ship is gonna
Speaker 1: be on massive Pill. Make some boddamn yo family such
Speaker 1: a beautiful energy. Yes, good energy, and we want you
Speaker 1: to know. Now, let me tell you something. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you something. Listen, just because we down with massive
Speaker 1: pill or whatever, you sell you the biggest artist, one
Speaker 1: of the biggest artists in the world to me, the
Speaker 1: biggest artists in the world. Because I'm pleased and yeah
Speaker 1: to me, I say that. And you could have you
Speaker 1: could have went anywhere, but you came to us, and
Speaker 1: I'm pause, Um, I really, I really appreciated that. Now
Speaker 1: because a lot of people don't know. They're thinking that
Speaker 1: we just did this. Now. You showed up to our
Speaker 1: main headquarters in Miami like you're seriously on the first Yes,
Speaker 1: the first day of the tour. Yes, I gotta come
Speaker 1: see my guys. I never did it before. It's family
Speaker 1: time at the time, it couldn't have been better. Like
Speaker 1: I said, I'm a fan of the show. I love
Speaker 1: what you guys do. I think there's no show like
Speaker 1: this in the game. It's pure, it's right, and he's drinking.
Speaker 1: It's it's a brand slam. It's beautiful. So I couldn't
Speaker 1: wait to be on the show. I saw Steve shout
Speaker 1: on the show. He's crazy. I ask you about that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: care arrest one I saw Oh man, it was daddy
Speaker 1: came with Yeah, so so you know, keep doing your thing. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just want to thank you so much because you're
Speaker 1: you're not your whole letting out here. You know they'd
Speaker 1: be like ninol go out here with the whole baby.
Speaker 1: Yeah wait wait, let's be real though, good though you
Speaker 1: got lost tapes to You're gonna have with you drink
Speaker 1: Champs with Nas Part two in Miami. I just want
Speaker 1: to say, because you know what, you know what, it's
Speaker 1: so perfect, you know what, I could go in, I
Speaker 1: could go in for six hours, but I'm gonna man,
Speaker 1: I can't believe it's going pooked. Yeah. Yeah, you got
Speaker 1: to celebrate. We gotta celebrate with you. So yeah, celebration
Speaker 1: once again. I just want to say thank you. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying because at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: certain people don't have to do what they got to
Speaker 1: do to keep hip hop going. Like you're at a
Speaker 1: level where you can say, you know what I can
Speaker 1: say on Wall Street, You're still here. You're still making
Speaker 1: business benches with niggers like us just trying to get
Speaker 1: apartment and I'm coming right, Yeah, come on but I'm
Speaker 1: coming there. But and I just want to thank you
Speaker 1: because in case you don't know what you mean the
Speaker 1: hip hop, if it wasn't for Nas, it wouldn't be
Speaker 1: a whole genre of music. It wouldn't be a mob deek,
Speaker 1: there wouldn't be a component in oriega. There wouldn't be
Speaker 1: a the Locks. There wouldn't be there. It's a lot
Speaker 1: of people that you birthed with that drug dealer, real
Speaker 1: nigga rat that that I know. I know. I know
Speaker 1: you're humble, your burger of Stember sixty set, so I
Speaker 1: know you don't all right now, So body in the trunk?
Speaker 1: Do you remember how he made Body in the trunk?
Speaker 1: All right? Hell yeah, I don't want you. We used
Speaker 1: to hang a lot. We used to hang a lot
Speaker 1: a lot. Used to take me to seafood place. He
Speaker 1: always had a style about him. He could be in
Speaker 1: the hood, but he knew how us spin niggers and
Speaker 1: then we go through the fly ships. So yes, so
Speaker 1: body the trunk, Yeah, that was us in the studio.
Speaker 1: Just just want to make records. This I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 1: This is what you said to me. Because we had
Speaker 1: had like seven records at the time. And I don't
Speaker 1: know if y'all know, but none of your niggers in
Speaker 1: this room was lucky enough to have seven records with
Speaker 1: nos I, so relax. I had seven So and now
Speaker 1: I said, yo, let's do a concept record. So the
Speaker 1: whole time we're driving, right, I ain't gonna I got
Speaker 1: out of controls okay, So as me driving to the
Speaker 1: see you, You and the Hit Factor we already but
Speaker 1: I'm with Jungle and the Chapelle. So they keep they
Speaker 1: keep battling each other, gets somebody in the trunk, y'all,
Speaker 1: somebody in the trump and then they just so I
Speaker 1: walk in the studio with you, and I'm like, yo, um,
Speaker 1: let's do a concept record. I was like, all right, cool,
Speaker 1: and we started thinking of concepts. I went to the bathroom.
Speaker 1: They still the bullshit, I said. I came back in.
Speaker 1: I said, did you hear what they're talking about? You're like, nah,
Speaker 1: I said, Yo, he keeps talking about the body of
Speaker 1: the trunk. He was like, that's perfect for the concept. Yo,
Speaker 1: that's my ship. That's that's my ship right there. That
Speaker 1: show is crazy. No, that was a crazy joint because
Speaker 1: it was like you had to like a movie part
Speaker 1: and then that had the sound effects and to beat
Speaker 1: the stupid beat, go dumb, y'all should make a movie
Speaker 1: right now, that motherfucker. But I got the Jungle all
Speaker 1: the time. He I hear him talking that ship turned
Speaker 1: on a song. It's like, oh ship id be later
Speaker 1: he getting little ripped. I ain't getting paid for that song,
Speaker 1: pub That's not true. I paid them for the whole
Speaker 1: motherfucking executive producing because you know what, And I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be honest. I'm gonna be honest. I owe Jungle more.
Speaker 1: I owe you more because you know what as a friend,
Speaker 1: as a like, as a friend dude in the game.
Speaker 1: What happened was I took that whole album on my
Speaker 1: own and y'all didn't. I didn't take over, but you
Speaker 1: came over and just let me know you did your thing.
Speaker 1: He was helping me with the spices over here and
Speaker 1: over here. And I can't never thank you, incredible, bro.
Speaker 1: You couldn't do that. Thank everybody can't do what you do. Bro.
Speaker 1: Thank you. My Brother's what it is. So listen everybody,
Speaker 1: before before we get out of here, we also got
Speaker 1: a big up. Not only are we gonna break news
Speaker 1: massive peal, Yes, title in the building with us too. V.
Speaker 1: Let me just say something. Let me say something to
Speaker 1: the people. You ran a play right there when we
Speaker 1: say something to the people real quick. Good friend of
Speaker 1: mine named Peter for Massive Pill. Pete said to me,
Speaker 1: and I don't even think he knows he said this
Speaker 1: to me, but he, I mean knows that this was
Speaker 1: a heavy weighing on us. We had a heavy deal
Speaker 1: with our Heart radio. I don't get too crazy details crazy,
Speaker 1: all right, I gotta relax, you gotta relax. I see
Speaker 1: people way, chill, all right, chill, nick. I know what
Speaker 1: I'm doing. But Peter said something crazy to me. It
Speaker 1: was in Bahamas, and he said, our heart ain't gonna
Speaker 1: get y'all. You're gonna do something crazy and our heart
Speaker 1: ain't gonna be there. And as wild as that ship sound,
Speaker 1: it was very simple. We know we say wild ship.
Speaker 1: We know that any other show can be censored and
Speaker 1: can be tamed. We know this. So instead of our Heart,
Speaker 1: he chose motherfucking mass of pill. And I want to
Speaker 1: I wanted to record this show that because I know
Speaker 1: Peter didn't know what he said when he said that,
Speaker 1: Because he said he said, he said that ship to
Speaker 1: me and said it so nonchalantly, but it made so
Speaker 1: much sense because because the thing about it is, I
Speaker 1: want everybody listen to this, not because I'm ill. People,
Speaker 1: because I'm ill. Go where you appreciate it, Go when
Speaker 1: you celebrate it. I'm going when you tolerated like I'd
Speaker 1: rather be with my people. Like I never had business,
Speaker 1: I never I never had dreams of doing business with
Speaker 1: Warren Buffett or Steve Jobs or things like that. My
Speaker 1: thing was, I want to do business with puff Daddy.
Speaker 1: I want to do business with nads. I want to
Speaker 1: do business with a whole because that's who I look
Speaker 1: up to and that's who I can see myself becoming.
Speaker 1: So no disrespect. But why go to Spotify? Why I
Speaker 1: don't got that guy's number? I don't even know who's
Speaker 1: Mr Spotify? Who is that name? Hold on, hold on on,
Speaker 1: and let me tell you there's nothing more hip hop.
Speaker 1: Did I kill that? I killed that. There's nothing more
Speaker 1: hip hop than to say, I say a Cuban kid
Speaker 1: from Miami. That's right. I tuck that ship. It's sitting
Speaker 1: at the table with legends, nonetheless, and then we can
Speaker 1: announce a monumental deal in hip hop revote and massive
Speaker 1: palms and on that note, nas nas, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: I want to thank the massive pill staff draft to
Speaker 1: add to Peter, so damn so many of them all.
Speaker 1: I forgot the London girl. Forgot her name? What's her name?
Speaker 1: What's her name? The London girl to accent the publicist. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm a big up to the title little big up
Speaker 1: to a revote, robbing and every everybody, Yo, Na you
Speaker 1: do ro think a drop drop? I know, I know,
Speaker 1: I know, I get drop