1 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: Everybody, Welcome to Between the Horns. It is Thursday, April fourth, 2 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: about ten am Pacific time here in Agory Hills, California. 3 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: Miles Simmons joined this week by JB long as DeMarco 4 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: Farr has literally gone fishing in northern California, but his 5 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: NBA team has been eliminated already. Yeah, he's adding to 6 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: be out in the boat with Chuck and Kenny and 7 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: Ernie in shack. Yeah, he's out there. But no, it's 8 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: good to have you here on the program. JB. It's 9 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: been a while. Nice to see you, Miles. I think 10 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: of this is two seasons, right. There is the season season, 11 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: which goes from training camp until whenever you're eliminated, and 12 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: then there's the off season program. And I feel like 13 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: we're about to open up that off season program, not 14 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: just you know, in the weight room and on the field, 15 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: but also in terms of the schedule release and the 16 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: draft and everything that comes along with it. So vacation 17 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: is over. Let's get to it. Yeah what vacation though? Honestly, 18 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: at least for me so, But I mean, now, how 19 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: has your off season been so far? Have you gotten 20 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: to go anywhere on vacation? Actually not really a few 21 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: working vacations, including this weekend when I'll bring my wife 22 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: and son on a work trip. But we're setting our 23 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: sights on late June early July as kind of our 24 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 1: get out of the country, get off the grid, disappear. Yes, 25 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: time to recharge for twenty nineteen football. Yeah right, I mean, 26 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: as it is with me as well, Like it's always 27 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: that I always say, the real NFL off season is 28 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: the time between the end of OTAs and mini camp 29 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: in the start of training camp, because the only news 30 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 1: that can really come out of that is bad, and 31 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: that's that somebody has exploded their hand in a fireworks 32 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: incident or has otherwise gotten arrested doing nefarious things when 33 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: they're supposed to be off. All the more true when 34 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: your team plays through the Super Bowl, right, because whatever 35 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: window you might have had there before free agency and 36 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: everything opens up is pretty much eliminated. So nice problem 37 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: to have. I hope we have it again this time 38 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: next year. Yeah, I do too. And it's interesting because 39 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: at this time last year, you know, the Rams were 40 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: still making moves, They're making trades. I think this week 41 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: last year, at this time was when the Rams traded 42 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: for Brandon Cooks. And now we're in a situation where 43 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: the RAMS are just kind of in a holding pattern 44 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: until they come back on April fifteenth. And I think it's, 45 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: as you said, this is kind of a good problem 46 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: to have. You know, no news right now is good 47 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: news because it means that you don't have to do 48 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: much in order to advance your program. Yeah. I know 49 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna spend a lot of time talking about kind 50 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: of roster construction, what's happened so far, what might still 51 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: happen through the draft. But even driving up here today 52 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 1: to further your point, you know, Sammy Watkins two years 53 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: ago wasn't even a blip on the RAMS radar at 54 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: this point in the calendar year. So there's still a 55 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: long way to go in terms of what the opening 56 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: day group is going to look like for the twenty 57 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: nineteen Los Angeles Rams. And I think this is the greatest, 58 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 1: most intriguing challenge yet for the front office, all the 59 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: way through their coaching staff. And I can't wait to 60 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: see how they manage it. Yeah, agreed, And so let's 61 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: get into free agency a little bit, because we really 62 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: haven't had a chance to talk with you about this stuff. 63 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: So the Rams made a bunch of moves sort of 64 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 1: you can say they are kind of minor moves. You 65 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: weren't necessarily overhauling any position group. I would say, but 66 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: you know, when you bring in guys like Eric Weiddle, 67 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: like Clay Matthews, those are kind of your headline guys. 68 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: You resigned somebody like Dante Fowler. What would you say 69 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: is the Ram's best move of free agency. I don't 70 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: know if this is going to surprise you, But of 71 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: all the questions you'll ask me today, this is by 72 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: far the easiest one for me to answer. It's Blake Bortles, 73 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: and it's not close really now in terms of the 74 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: impact he might have on what happens this fall, maybe negligible, 75 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,119 Speaker 1: let's hope. So right, yes, I mean, I'm looking forward 76 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: to him making five starts preseason one, preseason two, preseason three, 77 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: preseason four in week seventeen. But if he is asked 78 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: to do more than that, I think he's the most 79 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: important addition because you have a super Bowl caliber team 80 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: right now. You are pursuing championships in this window, and 81 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: Jared Goff, through his accomplishments and through his durability, has 82 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: gotten to the point where whoever's behind him has somewhat 83 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: been irrelevant. But you were walking a really thin razor 84 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: in that respect, and if sixteen had missed time, I 85 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: don't think the Rams could have reasonably expected to go 86 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: as far as they did. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe there's 87 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: a different belief inside that building, but based on what 88 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 1: we had seen through limited opportunity of the depth chart 89 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: of the Los Angeles Rams prior to now, I don't 90 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: know that they're playing in Atlanta without Jared Goff taking 91 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 1: every meaningful snap. Bordles. On the other hand, again, we 92 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: hope we don't get to this point, but if something 93 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: were to happen to Jared Goff between now and the 94 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: new year, I think you can reasonably expect to maintain 95 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: a championship level, whether that's the NFCUS, whether it's the NFC, 96 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: whether it's the NFL. He hasn't checked all of those boxes, 97 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 1: but he's checked some of them, and he's gotten his 98 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: previous franchise very very close. So I look at what 99 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: it means for this year potentially, and then also what 100 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: it means for this draft, because I thought there was 101 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: a very good chance that the Rams might need to 102 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: address quarterback for the first time in the Sean mcfay era, 103 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: through the draft coming up this spring. Now with Blake Bortles, 104 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: you still might, but you don't have to. If there's 105 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: someone you like who's available where you liked him, great, 106 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: If not, you can kick that can down the road 107 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: for another year. So look at all the starting quarterbacks 108 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 1: you miss time, you know, over the course of the 109 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: last couple of years. Thankfully we haven't experienced that. But 110 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: whether it's Alex Smith or Carson Wentz, Deshaun Watson, Aaron Rodgers, 111 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: Cam Newton two years ago, everyone in the city of Minneapolis, 112 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: except for case keenum like this is a reality. Almost 113 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: half the league deals with this on a year to 114 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: year basis. And that's why I just gave you a 115 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: really long answer on why Blake Bortles is the guy. No, 116 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: I think that you make a really good point. It's 117 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 1: interesting though, because that is not the position that I 118 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: wouldn't necessarily think about straight off. But I think you're 119 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: two year point. The Rams do have a Super Bowl 120 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: over a team. We just saw it. They were just there, right, 121 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: And so if that's what you're pursuing, then it is 122 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: extremely important to make sure that you can do everything 123 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: in your power to keep that And I also agree 124 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: with you. I don't know that the Rams would have 125 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: been playing in Atlanta had something happened to Jared Goff. 126 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: You would probably would not have been able to withstand 127 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: that kind of injury, And the Rams were able to 128 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: withstand a lot of injuries last year. I mean, think 129 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 1: about it, like keep to leave. You didn't have him 130 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: for half the season. You missed Todd Gurley for the 131 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: last two weeks of the regular season, and we're still 132 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: able to clench a first round by if you lose 133 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: your quarterback, that probably doesn't happen, just based on the 134 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: way I mean, it didn't have any of that kind 135 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: of experience. I mean, he never has played in a 136 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: meaningful NFL game, And thankfully we didn't have to find 137 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: out what the contingency plan was, whether it was to 138 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 1: address it in house, or if that scenario played out, 139 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: whether there was an option externally, like a C. J. 140 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: Anderson was at running back that they could have got. 141 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: But if if you have to do that, you're banking 142 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: on a lot of stars aligning in a very short 143 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: amount of time. Now you get your backup for this year, 144 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: all the way through your off season program. He's cerebral, 145 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: he gets along with Jared, they have history together. You know, 146 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: he's going to get all the reps that are available 147 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: in the preseason to get as close as possible to 148 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: be in Reddy to make an emergency start. And again, 149 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: let's hope that he has of all the additions minimal 150 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: or zero impact in this upcoming season. But I think 151 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: because of what could happen and because of the position 152 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: that he plays, to me, that's the biggest move. No. 153 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: And you know what we saw it look with Nick Foles, right, 154 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: And I think that's what we are basically pointing to 155 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: at this point. You know, when you have a backup 156 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: quarterback who is experienced and can come in and just 157 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: run the offense effectively, but not just run it effectively, 158 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: make plays when they need to be made, that can 159 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: really be the difference between a team that is built 160 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: to win the super Bowl actually winning the super Bowl 161 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: and not even making the playoffs. You know, and there 162 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:02,119 Speaker 1: are not many good expirian's backup quarterbacks in this league 163 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: in general, and to me, the fact that Blake Bortles 164 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: wanted to be here so he could be around Sean 165 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: McVeigh and learn more and you become a better quarterback. 166 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: That that only speaks to this program and how much 167 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: that these guys feel like they can be elevated here. Hey, 168 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: you don't want to get into a Jimmy Garoppolo San 169 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine er situation, right, And you know the 170 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: only way a quarterback gets hurt isn't you know, specific 171 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: to his offensive line. But that plays into it heavily. 172 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: And when you're replacing two fists of your offensive line, 173 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: I think it has to be top of mind. What 174 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: if our story quarterback is not able to play all 175 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: sixteen games? Sure? Yeah, Well, I mean you can make 176 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 1: a very good segue into this next topic here, which 177 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: is the Rams replacing two guys on the offensive line 178 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: in Roger Saffold in John Sullivan and two guys who 179 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: were really experienced, really good veterans. But now if you 180 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: have to bring in guys like a Brian Allen at 181 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: center who is penciled in there, and then a Joe 182 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: Noteboom left guard who's penciled in there, I mean, how 183 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: do you think they are or are not ready for 184 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: those rules? Well? I think pencil is the way to start, right, 185 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: I mean this time last year, find me anyone saying 186 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 1: Austin Blythe would start every game and grade out just 187 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: below Pro Bowl level. Right, there's a long way to go. 188 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: And if it is, Noteboom and Allan taking over at 189 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: left guard and center. Am I confident that they're going 190 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: to be able to maintain the standard that's been set 191 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: through a couple of years. Not necessarily, but I am 192 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: really confident in Aaron Cromer and Andy Dickerson and Sean 193 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: McVay and Andrew Whitworth, and I think in terms of 194 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: their ability, there's potential to be as good or maybe 195 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: even improved at center, and hopefully not substantially worse at 196 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: left guard and center specifically. Look, John Sullivan was like 197 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: a supercomputer upstairs, and I don't think that can be overlooked. 198 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: Maybe physically he wasn't able to execute the way that 199 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 1: he once was. Maybe he wasn't grading out at a 200 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: league average, But I don't just think Alan steps in 201 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: and replaces that upstairs. Maybe Golf will have to take 202 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: more on himself. Maybe you know, responsibilities are diversified across 203 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: that offensive line. I'm not sure how that actually plays out, 204 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: but I think it's a huge vote of confidence. And 205 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: I thought of this one moment in anticipation of our 206 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: podcast today that against Chicago and of the first quarter 207 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: Sully gets hurt. I mean, those were adverse conditions unlike 208 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: any of the Rams had seen to that point. And 209 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: it wasn't like, Okay, well, blythe has played center before, 210 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: so let's slide him over, maybe we stick Nope, boom, 211 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: who's a higher draft pick in at guard. It was no, 212 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: Brian Allen, You're in its center, right, and think about 213 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: how much farther along he and the Rams are at 214 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: this stage of their tenure. And I think, you know, 215 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: that's probably the first moment where it crystallized for me 216 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: that he's the guy until proven otherwise he's going to 217 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: be getting that chance this offseason. Yeah, And it's interesting 218 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: because at that point, really you had a guy leading 219 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: Brian Allen, who was taking the snaps at center and practice, 220 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: you know, because at that point you still had Andrew 221 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 1: Whitworth and John Sullivan taking their vet days, and they 222 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: just kind of stopped doing that toward the end of 223 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: the year, especially after the Rams lost those two games 224 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: in a row. But to that point, I mean, it 225 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: was you know, Joe Noteboom was the backup for every 226 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: position but center, but Brian Allen was the backup for center, 227 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 1: and so when he had to come in, and it 228 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: was like, okay, the Rams as you said, you know, 229 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: they're facing conditions that were at versus they had faced 230 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: to that point. You at least have that person that 231 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: you are confident enough in and saying all right, you're 232 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 1: gonna go do it and you have to do it. 233 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: And you know, it didn't seem to me like he 234 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: did that pore of a job in that particular circumstance. 235 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 1: I mean, there were only a few plays and then 236 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 1: you see later on in the year where he's playing 237 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 1: more against San Francisco in week seventeen, and he equits 238 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: himself pretty well in that situation also. But I think 239 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: right now what's interesting is what you just said about 240 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: John Sullivan being a supercomputer upstairs. You know, we talked 241 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 1: to Brian Allen from behind the Grind a couple next 242 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: shot with that. By the way, I loved the first 243 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: two episodes, Yes, no, they've been awesome. Shout out to 244 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: Taylor Gilkson and sent Ever Stuffy, who are our superproducers 245 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: on that. But I think what was interesting what he 246 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: said in that interview was there were so many things 247 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: that I didn't know that I was able to learn 248 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: just by sitting behind John Sullivan for a year. He said, 249 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: I'm so much better for being able to do that. 250 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: And it's interesting because you when you think about, you know, centers, 251 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: and especially him coming from a pro style system, you 252 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: probably think, all right, well, there's not as much that 253 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: he has to learn in order to be a good center. 254 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: But when you come into the league, there's still that 255 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: significant step. And Jared Goff has talked about it time 256 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: and time again, how good John Sullivan is at the 257 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, of pointing things out, calling things out. 258 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: Just having sat behind him for one year, I think 259 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: that really can't help Brian Allen in this new role. 260 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 1: Can Jared take some of that off his plate? I mean, 261 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,719 Speaker 1: I think with each year that goes along, Goff is 262 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: gonna have to absorb more and more of the responsibility 263 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: because let's face it, we live in a salary cap 264 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: restricted world. Where as you take more of that upon yourself, 265 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: you also have to deliver bigger and better results. Yeah, 266 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: no doubt, and I think that's something that you have 267 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: to expect from your quarterback going into year four, going 268 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 1: into year three in a system with the head coach 269 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 1: that you know, and everybody makes a big deal out 270 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: of the fact that Sean McVeigh calls things into Jared's 271 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: helmet until there's fifteen seconds on the play clock, but 272 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: that I think pretty much all offensive coordinators do that, 273 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: and I think that that's something that's a little bit overblown. 274 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: But at the same time, when you have somebody in 275 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: the more experience they get as a quarterback, the more 276 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: things they see, the less they're going to get fooled 277 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: than just having Jared having been with John Sullivan for 278 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: two years. I think that can only help him. And 279 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: I think, as you just said, he's got to be 280 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: able to call more things himself. Yeah. I mean, if 281 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: if you had to play a game this month, would 282 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: it be note boom and Allan stepping into those two 283 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,959 Speaker 1: roles those two voids? Probably? But is that the final 284 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: answer now? I think there's a long way to go, 285 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: and there's a draft between now and then, and there 286 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: are more roster moves to be made across the league 287 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: that might create an opportunity for you to grab someone 288 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: who can plug a hole. Depending on how that's going. 289 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: And even if those two individuals are the you know, 290 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 1: they're the helmets in the jerseys, I'm not even completely 291 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: sure that they're going to be starting in the positions 292 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: we've talked about so far, Like a lot of that 293 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: is still very much up in the air. Yes, I 294 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: think so too, because I mean, at this point two 295 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: years ago, we were talking about Craig Robinson at right tackle, 296 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: Rob Havenstein at right guard, and that's just not that 297 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: did not end up being close to the case for 298 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: what we actually saw on Sundays. And then it went 299 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: from Rob Havenstein at right guard to then Jamon Brown 300 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: at right tackle, taking those reps and running with going 301 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: back and forth with Greg Robinson, and then of course 302 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: the Rams traded Greg Robinson and then they ended up 303 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: flipping Rob Havenstein back out to right tackle and Jamon 304 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: Brown into right guard. So, as you said, there's a 305 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: lot of time for this to play out. And you know, 306 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: if you've got somebody like Aaron Cromer who understands this 307 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: personnel and understands how to get the most out of it, 308 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: probably better than just about anybody else in the league 309 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: except for maybe Dante Sarnekia, who you know, we all 310 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: know how good he is, but the Patriots. But if 311 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: you've got somebody like that, I think there's time to 312 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: trust this and trust that this process can work. But 313 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: again in terms of kind of the overarching point that 314 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: I made earlier, in terms of I think this is 315 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: the greatest challenge of the soon to be three year 316 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: McVay staff era. You know, I think roster construction this 317 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: offseason is a little bit more nuanced. It's a little 318 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: bit more player development driven, and you're entering a period 319 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: of time where you're going to have to draft and 320 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: develop really really well to maintain the standard and the 321 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: wind totals that we've talked about for two years now. Yes, 322 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: no doubt, it's about building a program. And if the 323 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: Rams can show that they are in fact building a 324 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: program this year, then this is how you get to 325 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: that level of sustained success that we see teams like 326 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers have, like the Seattle Seahawks really have 327 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: definitely had over the last few years. I mean, think 328 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: about last year was supposed to be a rebuilding year 329 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: for them. They go ten and six and conceivably could 330 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: have won two more games against the Los Angeles Rams 331 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: and still make the playoffs as a wildcard team. You know, 332 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: you see that with teams like Baltimore, right, they always 333 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: seem to be reloading and not just rebuilding. And so 334 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: that's where if you have guys like Brian Allen that 335 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: can step in, like Joe Nopoom that can step in 336 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: offensively but also defensively too. Micah Kaiser is another guy 337 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: who's penciled in to a role at this point. You know, 338 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: somebody like John Franklin, Myers, Sebastian Joseph Day on the 339 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: defensive line. Can those guys continue to step up and 340 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: step in that that's how you build the program. I've 341 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: it just to button up the offensive line. I mean, 342 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: I think that's really the crux of the matter here. 343 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: And thank goodness you didn't also have to replace your 344 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: left tackle. I mean, in hindsight, Andrew Whitworth making the 345 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: decision that he made at the outset of all of this, 346 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I amplify that twofold now in terms of 347 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: its significant because of the leadership role that he plays 348 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: and also just the down in and down out consistency 349 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 1: that he brings from a performance level, even at his age, Yeah, 350 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: no doubt. I mean, Andrew Whitworth has been invaluable as 351 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: a member of the team and as a member of 352 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: the community. And I think, you know, his leadership has 353 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: definitely put the Rams locker room in a very different 354 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: place than when it was when this team arrived in 355 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 1: Los Angeles in twenty sixteen. You know, it's just I 356 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: just think that's absolutely the case. So when you have 357 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: him and you all you if you would have had 358 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 1: to replace him and Saffled and Sullivan, that would have 359 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,959 Speaker 1: been a really, really, really tough task for one offseason, 360 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,719 Speaker 1: especially when you look at the defensive fronts of some 361 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: of the teams in the division. And I know we'll 362 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: get to this eventually, but a gentleman named Bosa is 363 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: likely going to land in the NFC West. Yeah, in 364 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 1: one of two places this springs. So yes, yes, no 365 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 1: doubt about it. With the linebacker spot, I do want 366 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about Michae Kaiser because he 367 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: was a tackling machine at Virginia and now it is 368 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 1: interesting we didn't really see much of him on defense. 369 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: We saw a lot of them on special teams, and 370 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 1: it seems to me that that's a place where somebody 371 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 1: can step up and then start making that impact from 372 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: year one to year two, somebody's gonna have. You know, 373 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: we'll see. I mean, I think Michael will get the opportunity. 374 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's first right or refusal or 375 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 1: however you want to phrase it, but I mean that's 376 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: one of the biggest things that I'll have an eye 377 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 1: on during this offseason program is who's getting those down 378 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: reps and how are they performing next to Corey Littleton, 379 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: Because you know, that's not an area that I would 380 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: be surprised to see the Rams addressed through the draft. 381 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's with their first pick or 382 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: one of their first couple of picks, but I think 383 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 1: there will be more options there when we get to 384 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 1: training camp than there are currently, right, and that's that 385 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: they need that because I mean less needs. Said this 386 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: I think earlier on in March, either right after the 387 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: combine or at some point, but it was basically that's 388 00:18:56,440 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 1: a position that we have to address, probably more than 389 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: just getting back our own guys that you know, from 390 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 1: a Corey Littleton standpoint, you know that you put the 391 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: second round tender on him as a restricted free agent, 392 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: but then you're losing guys like you cut a Mark Baron. 393 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: He's now with the Pittsburgh Steelers, so we'll see him 394 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: at some point next season. But you also don't have 395 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: Bryce Hager, who's an unrestricted free agent, and Remique Wilson, 396 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 1: who I thought played well both on defense and on 397 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,719 Speaker 1: special teams. He's an unrestricted free agent. So again, this 398 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: is the part of the building the program, right can 399 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: you get linebackers that can come in and make the 400 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,959 Speaker 1: impact and build your depth at that position. And this 401 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: is a process that will go all the way through 402 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: roster cuts in week one. I mean, who knows when 403 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: a player in Remique Wilson's tier experience level, starting experience 404 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: throughout the league will come available. And then you go 405 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: from all right, Mike Keiser's your guy here or someone 406 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: you draft is going to get opportunities in training camp 407 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: as a rookie too. Oh no, hold on, wait a second. 408 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: We were able to catch a veteran and let's go 409 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: there at least to start the season and give someone 410 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: else some more time to learn and develop. Right, well, 411 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: what what other positions do you think the Rams might 412 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: look at for the draft drafts? Yes, we start to 413 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: get into April. Here this is hashtag draft season. Yeah, 414 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 1: so before we venture into these waters, let me give 415 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 1: my disclaimer. And you know me, I am not mock 416 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: draft guy, Okay, Like, I fully acknowledge and respect that 417 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: there are men and women who spend their entire professional 418 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: lives doing this, yes, right, like, professionally and then in 419 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: kind of the amateur tier as well, whether it's in house, 420 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: in media, whatever. So far be it from me to say, 421 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: right like, I trust those people to do their job 422 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: better than I could do it for them. But from 423 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: where I stand, I think it's easier for me to 424 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: say the positions that I would be surprised to see 425 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: them addressed early. Sure, right, unless a dream scenario were 426 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 1: to land in front of them in a couple of weeks. 427 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: Quarterback now, probably with Golf and Bartles solidly on your 428 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: depth chart, wide receiver going four deep at the starting 429 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: level there, I would be surprised if they took an 430 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: early leap on a wide receiver tight end. I think 431 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 1: you kind of know who your two starters are. I mean, 432 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: if you're again presented with a can't miss opportunity, sure 433 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 1: running back, you know we'll talk about Malcolm Brown. I 434 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 1: know in this podcast, I don't think you can ever 435 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: necessarily go wrong with drafting or running back every spring, 436 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: but maybe not early. So I would say those would 437 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: be kind of be the ones and their skill positions. 438 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: Obviously everything else. If there's someone you really like and 439 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: he's available, you go for it. You make that call. 440 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: In terms of order of urgency, I would say the 441 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: trenches on both sides, whether it's offensive line or defensive line. 442 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 1: Right behind that, I would say linebacker, which we've already 443 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: touched down on, but not necessarily inside linebacker. I mean 444 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 1: linebacker level inside or edge would probably be next for me. 445 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 1: And then I think, even though you're probably a year 446 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: away from needing a starter, the secondary, whether it's coroner 447 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: and or safety, I mean, I think you know where 448 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: you are for twenty nineteen, but you can never have 449 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: too much debt there and you want to have I 450 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 1: think the long term partner for John Johnson to learn 451 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 1: under Johnson and Weddle this year, or you know, face 452 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 1: with the possibility of losing one of, if not both, 453 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 1: your corners a year from now, how are you preparing 454 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: to address that? Yeah, I think cornerback is one of 455 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: the more interesting positions that the Rams could address either 456 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 1: with that first round pick at thirty one, or you know, 457 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: if less need trades back, like I think many of 458 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: us sort of anticipate will happen, then that's something that 459 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: can be also addressed in the second round. And it's 460 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: like you said, I think what the Rams have done 461 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: by the moves that they have made in free agency 462 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: is set themselves up to not necessarily need a pick 463 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: at one thirty one. Right. You know, they can basically say, 464 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: all right, we can take the best player available and 465 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: then slot whoever that is into whatever position that it 466 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: is because you're not in dire need. I don't think 467 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: of a starter at any one spot. You have at 468 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: least options that are internal for all eleven positions on 469 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: both sides of the football. No, I mean that's an 470 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 1: attractive place to be in the draft. At the end 471 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: of the first day, we know that teams get antsy 472 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: and don't want to sleep at out overnight. Right, and 473 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: then because of the fifth year option that comes with 474 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: those final couple of picks of that opening day, you 475 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 1: can hardly affix the value to that. But I actually 476 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: look at it the other way, where having fewer needs, 477 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: you might get aggressive, and you might you might try 478 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 1: and move forward, you know, in the say twenties, if 479 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: you see someone that you know can be a starter 480 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 1: at a position that you need this year, maybe you 481 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: package something and go up and get a guy that 482 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: you hope can plug and play. Interesting so, because I 483 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: really have not thought that much about the Rams moving 484 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: up in the draft, and I guess it's because I 485 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: haven't really covered a draft, like really really covered a 486 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 1: first round of a draft in three years, right. And 487 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: it's interesting because you know, I joined this team right 488 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 1: at the start of the twenty fourteen season, so my 489 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: first draft was Todd Gurley and that was twenty fifty 490 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: and that was the only one where it was like, Okay, 491 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 1: we got a Rams of a first round pick, and 492 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: there's really and no anticipation for what they're going to 493 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: be able to do. I mean, the thought was at 494 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: that time, I remember going into it, Okay, probably offensive lineman, 495 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 1: just based on the way things had gone, you know, 496 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: you think that you could use some shoring up up front. 497 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: And they did end up picking both Rob havens Son 498 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 1: and Jamal Brown in that draft in the subsequent rounds, 499 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: but Todd Gurley ended up being the pick, and it 500 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: was kind of like, oh, my goodness, what's going on here? 501 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 1: And then you know next year. Everything since then it's 502 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: been okay, we probably know what's going to happen in 503 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: the first round, right, you know, you trade up for 504 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: Jared Goff on April fifteenth or the number one pick, 505 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 1: but at that point pretty much everybody knew it was 506 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: going to be Jared Goff. Then sixteen you don't have 507 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: a first round pick, seventeen you don't have a first 508 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: round pick from that golf trade. And then last year 509 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: you traded it for Brandon Cooks and so then you 510 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: didn't have it for a pick for the first two rounds. 511 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,719 Speaker 1: And so this year it's really interesting because there is 512 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 1: that possibility, yes, that the Rams could trade up, and 513 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: I just don't know that I've thought that much about 514 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: that happening, maybe because less need is just traded back 515 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: so much except for sixteen when they do trade up. 516 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: You know, not having second round capital maybe makes that difficult. 517 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: You might actually have to trade a player rather than 518 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 1: a pick, or dig into some of your third round inventory. 519 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 1: I'm not sure how that would all transpire. I just 520 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 1: know that if you're getting close to thirty one, and 521 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 1: there's still someone on your board that you've evaluated as 522 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: a potential starter for you this fall, maybe you're maybe 523 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: you're more aggressive as opposed to maximizing your draft capital 524 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: for the remaining days of the draft. Yeah. No, I 525 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 1: think that's very fair. I mean, do you think that 526 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: that is something that the RAMS really have to take 527 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,199 Speaker 1: into account just based on the way the window is 528 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 1: kind of right now where Jared Goff is on the room. 529 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: I don't think they have to. I just think I'm 530 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: almost positive their phone will ring, Like if you get 531 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 1: into the late twenties, in the early thirties, I think 532 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 1: your phone will ring because people know that less need 533 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: is receptive to that, and for the reasons aforementioned. I 534 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: think that's a really valuable place to be sitting on 535 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: the tail end of the first day of the draft. 536 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 1: But I don't know what to anticipate. Again, I think 537 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 1: even the best laid plans go out the window after 538 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 1: an hour of the draft because of what transpires in 539 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: the top two, five, ten. So you know, we can 540 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: talk about it here a couple of weeks out and 541 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: it's all hypothetical. Yes, And that's the interesting thing to 542 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: me about the way they go through their draft prep, 543 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: they have to go through so many scenarios, especially when 544 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: you're picking at thirty one. Pick at thirty one is 545 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: so vastly different than picking at ten because literally there's 546 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,360 Speaker 1: thirty other players that are coming off the board before you, 547 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: and so it's so hard to anticipate exactly what teams 548 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 1: are going to do. Are there going to be teams 549 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: that move up that trade back, and who do they 550 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: do it for, because every team has a different evaluation 551 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: on every different player pretty much, especially after you get 552 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: past that first five. Say, you know, those first five 553 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: are usually the blue ship guys that everybody has, you know, 554 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: very set opinions on, unless it's kind of quarterbacks. But 555 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 1: from then on, it's like, Okay, this is kind of 556 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: a crapshoot. Well, I'm more in your Thursday night plans 557 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: from the last couple of years because you'll you'll actually 558 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 1: have to reserve some worktime, some writing time for Thursday 559 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: night in April twenty nine. Times, I know, I can't 560 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: just go see the Avengers. It's funny, like, because that's 561 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 1: the night that The Avengers comes out, And so I 562 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: was looking at movie times and I'm like, man, you 563 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: know what, I don't think I'm going to be able 564 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 1: to do this save it for Sundays. Yeah. For Sunday, Yeah, 565 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. If there is a position, though 566 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: that I think might surprise people that the Rams could 567 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 1: take in the first round, I think it might be 568 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: tight End, mainly because of the production that the team 569 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 1: has gotten out of that position for the last couple 570 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 1: of years. And Sean McVay said some nice complimentary things 571 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: about Gerald Everett last week when he was at the 572 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,919 Speaker 1: league meetings in Phoenix. But I think at the same time, 573 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 1: if there is a guy that is out there, and 574 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: maybe it's one of the two Iowa tight ends that 575 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: I keep hearing so much about that is on the 576 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: board and that you feel I can really take this 577 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 1: offense to the next level, that is a position that 578 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: I think the RAMS could address early. Again, it would 579 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: surprise me, But you know, there might be someone there 580 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: that you didn't think you had any chance of falling 581 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 1: to you at thirty one, And if that becomes the scenario, 582 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: then you do what you think is best in terms 583 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: of constructing your top roster, and if it creates a 584 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 1: position of depth for you at tight End or any 585 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: other position. Then you get into the summer, you get 586 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 1: into training camp, you see what other team needs are 587 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,479 Speaker 1: and you might be able to trade from a position 588 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: of strength. We saw them do that at defensive back 589 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago to get Sammy Watkins. And 590 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: that's where this is all a fluid picture, not just 591 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: in terms of draft needs, but also what the eventual 592 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: fifty three man roster might look like six months from now. Yeah, 593 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: no doubt. That is the sort of interesting thing about April, right. 594 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: It's all speculation, and that's why I think it's almost 595 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: more valuable excuse me, for us to talk positions than 596 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: it is potential players, right, because I prefer the discussion 597 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: where it's Okay, the Rams could address this, but I mean, 598 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: you and I really are not the ones who are 599 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: breaking down the college film, like ay, we have other 600 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: things to do with our time, and we you know, 601 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: we don't really get paid to do that. And you know, 602 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: if we were the people who do and who are 603 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: the experts and the analysts that do it, they watch 604 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: so much more film than we are capable of doing, 605 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: because hey, we covered a team that went to the 606 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,719 Speaker 1: super Bowl this year and be you know, when you 607 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: get down to those thirties picks. It's so it's like 608 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: I said, it's a craft you just don't know. Yeah, 609 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: I just just to circle back to the tight end. 610 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: I mean, again, it would surprise me because I think 611 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: the Rams have two starters there and they're also an 612 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: eleven personnel driven team. Yes, so if you have two 613 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: starters and a first rounder at that position, if that's 614 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: your depth chart, man, that'd be a nice problem to have. 615 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 1: I just don't know that it's going to carry in 616 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: to your fifty three man roster. True, yeah, I mean, 617 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: especially being an eleven personnel driven team that I think 618 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: probably affects the way you have to evalue. I mean 619 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: they already struggled with that dynamic is struggled in a 620 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: good way. But like, how do you get Gerald Everett 621 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: more reps, more opportunities or are you gonna take Cooper 622 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: Cup off the field? Unfortunately he took himself off the 623 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: field with an ACL But until you got to that 624 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: point that was the rub. Yes, yeah, and because why 625 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: would you when he is clearly one of the best 626 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: eleven that you can put out there on offense. So 627 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: another one of those guys who's certainly one of the 628 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: best eleven Todd Gurley, and so much has been made 629 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: about his knee throughout the course of this offseason. We 630 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: got the report from the athletic that he is arthritis 631 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: in the knee, and then Sean McVay and lessoned to 632 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: have both said that they will try monitor Todd Gurley 633 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: snaps probably better in the upcoming season than they have 634 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: in the past. So where do you stand on Todd 635 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: Gurley knee gate. There's only one person who can speak 636 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: to it, and he's not on this podcast, and we 637 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: haven't heard from him a while, so I'll leave that 638 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: to Todd. I know this, There aren't many people walking 639 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: this planet who can play the role that Todd Gurley 640 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: plays in Sea mcvay's offense. He should know that. We 641 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: know that, I know his head coach knows that. I 642 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: know Coach Pete is running back. Coach knows that now 643 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: will he ever have a statistical season that surpasses either 644 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: of the two? He just laid down at an MVP level. 645 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: Even if there weren't questions about his health, I think 646 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: the answer has to be probably not to that question, right, 647 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: I mean, twenty one hundred yards and nineteen touchdowns and 648 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: then eighteen hundred yards and twenty one touchdowns. I mean, 649 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: that's Hall of Fame stuff. And I hope that he 650 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: does it next year in the year after that, and 651 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: I hope he does end up in the Hall of Fame. 652 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: And the RAMS have invested in him, and the RAMS 653 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: care about him, and the RAMS think very highly of him. 654 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: But this is a tough place to be in individually 655 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: and at the position right now in the National Football League, 656 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: And I don't know, I think it makes sense to 657 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: manage that workload so that you do get the most 658 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: out of Todd over the years that he has a 659 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: peak performance left. Yeah, and because of the way the 660 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: RAMS have already invested in Gurley, you have to think 661 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: that there isn't I don't know how much I want 662 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: to call it a level of concern, but it is. 663 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: It is a level of concern that you can continue 664 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: to maintain that standard over the course of the contract. 665 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: Right he's signed through the early twenty twenties, I think 666 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, after signing that extension at the beginning 667 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: of training camp last year. So when you have somebody 668 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: like that, you want to make sure that you're protecting 669 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: your investment first of all, but you're also going to 670 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: try to maximize the performance that you can get out 671 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: of him, and you want that to happen in the 672 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: biggest spots, in the biggest games. I mean, when you 673 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: have a guy that has taken the amount of hits 674 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: that he's taken, Yes, there is going to be some 675 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: level of wear and tear, regardless of if the fact 676 00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: he would have had an ACL or not in college. 677 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,479 Speaker 1: That that's just physics. You know, when you're getting hit 678 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: that much, you're gonna have some kind of wear and 679 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: tear there. So I think that the Rams, yes, they 680 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: probably need to manage his snaps, But Todd Gurley is 681 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: the kind of guy who's going to take care of 682 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: his body. And you also are just gonna have to 683 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: be sure that the plays you're calling and the way 684 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: you use Malcolm Brown is in the best way possible 685 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: for this team to be as good as possible. Yeah, 686 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: I just I trust the workflow. I trust the lines 687 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: of communication between Todd individually and the people who make 688 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: those decisions. And I don't know that there's a firm 689 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: solution or a plan yet, but I think there's a 690 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: foundation for one to develop. Whereby he can continue to 691 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: be extremely productive. He can still be a Pro Bowl 692 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,479 Speaker 1: level tailback. I just don't know that in twenty nineteen 693 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: or ever again, he's going to go out there and 694 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: try and threaten the rushing title like he can. I 695 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: think he's capable of it. I just don't know that 696 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: that's best for him or this franchise, right. I don't 697 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: think it is either, And I think that's part of 698 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: the reason why it seems like it was a big 699 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 1: priority for this team to bring back Malcolm Brown, who 700 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: was a player who could spell Todd Gurley. Last year, 701 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't probably as much as he will 702 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: this year. I think this year I would project, just 703 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,959 Speaker 1: in my own head that he's probably going to play 704 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: maybe twenty five to thirty percent of snaps, and last 705 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 1: year he was probably he was. He was at about 706 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: fifteen percent of snaps when he went down in that 707 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 1: Detroit game. So Todd gurlehs on the field eighty five 708 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: percent of the time. That's a lot for his starting 709 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: running back. And it speaks to his production level that 710 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: he was able to do what he did, scored twenty 711 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 1: one touchdowns and lead the league despite not playing in 712 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: the last few weeks of the year. But at the 713 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 1: same time, when you have somebody like Malcolm Brown, who 714 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 1: was perfectly capable of averaging about five yards per carry, 715 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 1: I was stoked to see Malcolm Brown back in horns. Yes, 716 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,359 Speaker 1: me too, Yeah, me too. And that's exactly why. Yeah, 717 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 1: And I know there's you know, some angst over what 718 00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 1: about c J. Anderson and howcome that didn't work out? Look, 719 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 1: the Rams weren't the only team that prioritized Malcolm, right, 720 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 1: the Lions did too, And as I understand it, maybe 721 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: Detroit did Los Angeles a favor in terms of, you know, 722 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 1: based on the offer sheet, you now get Brown for 723 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 1: two years instead of one, at an average annual value 724 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 1: of less than his original round tender would have paid 725 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: him this season. Like that's kind of a steal, as 726 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 1: I understand it, right, Yes, that's the same way I 727 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: understand it. I mean, it's pretty much a no brainer 728 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 1: at that point. And it was interesting because DeMarco and 729 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: I had a podcast. Basically was after the Lions had 730 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 1: announced that they'd signed him to an offer sheet, but 731 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: it was before those terms had been reported by anybody, 732 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,399 Speaker 1: and so I was saying, well, if they signed him 733 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,919 Speaker 1: to an offer sheet. It's probably going to be hard 734 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: for the Rams to match it, because otherwise why would 735 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 1: you sign him to an offer sheet? But that offer 736 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,919 Speaker 1: sheet was worked out very well for the Los Angeles Rams. Yeah, Look, 737 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 1: Brown played almost thirty percent of special team snaps because 738 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 1: c J. Anderson you got in late. You know, he 739 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 1: didn't play I don't think a single down on special team. 740 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: So you have to calculate that value into when you're 741 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: constructing your roster. And you know, I apologize for all 742 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 1: my pregnant pauses when we first dove into this conversation, 743 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 1: but it's it's a little sensitive for me. It's a 744 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: little fragile right now the running back position because while 745 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 1: I do think the Rams have one of the best 746 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 1: in the game and we're right to make him their future, 747 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: when you see like Chicago trade Howard to Philadelphia for 748 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 1: you know, a couple of footballs and a jersey and return, 749 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: I think we're back to where we were before some 750 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: of these contracts started getting handed out, where it's like, 751 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: what really is the value of a starting caliber running 752 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: back in the league right now? And you know, nothing 753 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:43,240 Speaker 1: against c. J. Anderson, but like teams weren't like busting 754 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,879 Speaker 1: through doors to sign up his services either, and maybe 755 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 1: they should have been. And I hope for CJ's sake 756 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 1: that he proves everyone who didn't give him a contract 757 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: wrong and he goes out there and has a Pro 758 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 1: Bowl caliber year. But I just think the caution that 759 00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:00,320 Speaker 1: not just the Rams but all teams are demonstrating towards 760 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,840 Speaker 1: that role right now. You have to be I think, 761 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 1: on the whole happy to have Malcolm Brown back and 762 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,280 Speaker 1: maintain that continuity. And also if you try to squeeze 763 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 1: them both, and I don't even know if that was possible, 764 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:16,840 Speaker 1: but like, where's John Kelly? Then? Like are you ready 765 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 1: to let go of that project or do you still 766 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 1: think there's potential there? Right? Right? Right? And I think 767 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 1: you have to think there's still potential there. I do, yeah, 768 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: certainly based on what he was able to do in college. 769 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 1: Now I think there probably was a welcome to the 770 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 1: NFL kind of aspect to John Kelly's season, Yes, especially 771 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,439 Speaker 1: in that Chicago game, right, you know? And so there 772 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 1: is that, but then there's also, Okay, how can the 773 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,839 Speaker 1: Rams show again that they're building a program, How can 774 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: he take that next step in his development and perhaps 775 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 1: carve out a role for himself offensively, and it's because 776 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,439 Speaker 1: less Sneed said again in March that there's always been 777 00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 1: this aspect of Sean mcvay's offense that he would like 778 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: to have with a kind of running back who can 779 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: be dynamic out of the backfield. And I'm not saying 780 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,840 Speaker 1: Todd Gurley is not. But Lance Dunbar was signed, remember, 781 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 1: you know, back, and that didn't quite work out because 782 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 1: of Lance Dunbar's injuries. But the thought there was, Okay, 783 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 1: he can come in and he can be a real 784 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 1: good receiving option out of the backfield. And I think 785 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 1: guys like Todd Gurley obviously can catch the ball out 786 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 1: of the backfield. We've seen that countless times over the 787 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: last couple of years. Malcolm Brown showed that he's capable 788 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 1: of catching the ball out of the backfield, made one 789 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 1: of the best catches of twenty eighteen down there in 790 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 1: New Orleans in the game that the Rams eventually lost. 791 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 1: But you also, I think could have something from John Kelly, 792 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 1: who has shown that he is a shifty kind of back. 793 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 1: He's a smaller guy, not necessarily going to run you over, 794 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:46,399 Speaker 1: but he can evade tacklers, and so can he be 795 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 1: that kind of guy out of the Rams backfield. That's 796 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 1: something that they're definitely going to try to explore. Not 797 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 1: just that Miles, but if I were advising Kelly, I 798 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 1: would make it my utmost priority to not miss a 799 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,839 Speaker 1: single protection assignment throughout this entire offseason program. No doubt 800 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 1: I would come back for this year and I would 801 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 1: try to demonstrate to my position coach, my coordinator, my 802 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 1: head coach that I am ready to be in and 803 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 1: pick up any blitz that's coming. And if you choose 804 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 1: me at any point in any given game, your quarterback 805 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 1: is not at risk. Yes, because everyone focuses on the 806 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 1: rushing yards and the touchdowns that CJ. Anderson was able 807 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 1: to deliver in December and January very important, But the 808 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 1: first priority was making sure that number sixteen was going 809 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 1: to be available for the NFC Championship Game and for 810 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I mean, that's why they had to 811 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,280 Speaker 1: go out and get help at the running back position, 812 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 1: because Todd is elite in that category and Malcolm maintains 813 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,280 Speaker 1: that continuity. I mean, I think Goff and McVeigh trust 814 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 1: those two as much as any running back tandem in 815 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 1: the National Football League. So if you want to break 816 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: into that rotation, you better check that box. Yes, And 817 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: that was one of the things that C. J. Anderson 818 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 1: did super well, and he always said it was in 819 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 1: part because we played with in the past, and that 820 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 1: being he always called him eighteen Peyton Manning right right. 821 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 1: You know, he was the running back that the Broncos 822 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: leaned on very heavily when they ran when they won 823 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifty back in that twenty fifteen season. And 824 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 1: you know, I can remember C. J. Anderson running down 825 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 1: the left sideline to beat the Patriots in that snow 826 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 1: game that they had on Sunday Night football, And so 827 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 1: he had that championship caliber experience and he was able 828 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 1: to come in and do pass protection very well. And 829 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 1: I think the only assignment he missed was probably his 830 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 1: first blocking assignment that he had in Arizona and it 831 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: turned into a sack phoneble from golf. But after that 832 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 1: he was just fine in that position. I mean, to me, 833 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 1: that almost punctuated the need, right. Yes, it's because the 834 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 1: first rep he got in that situation, it was like, Okay, 835 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,879 Speaker 1: this is why they win. External to try and keep 836 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,320 Speaker 1: this on the rails for the new year. Yes, yes, exactly. 837 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 1: So when you look at the offseason program. Now you 838 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 1: mentioned John Kelly in pass protection. What other things do 839 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,720 Speaker 1: you think the Rams have to work on here? Well, 840 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,839 Speaker 1: you know, I think we get too caught up in 841 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,400 Speaker 1: the touchdowns and the point scoring and the thrilling victories 842 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 1: along the way in a season like the Rams just had, 843 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,759 Speaker 1: and you deemphasize the foundation that was laid at this 844 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 1: time of year and the fundamentals that were taught and 845 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 1: bought into by the players that allows you to do 846 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,319 Speaker 1: things like finished fourth in the National Football League and 847 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: turnover margin and back to back seasons in the top ten. 848 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,359 Speaker 1: And for a franchise that preaches like it's about the ball, 849 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 1: like I think, this is the time of year where 850 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 1: you practice those skills and you stress those moments in 851 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 1: games and the techniques that allow you to get takeaways 852 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:44,279 Speaker 1: and not cough up the football, along with footwork and 853 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,360 Speaker 1: so many other things that I mean, this is the 854 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 1: this is the humble, quiet time of year where the 855 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 1: work that you put in will eventually pay dividends, but 856 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 1: it's it's not really exciting, yes, and you have to 857 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 1: really love the game and love that grind to eventually 858 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 1: be a division champion or an NFC champion or a 859 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 1: super Bowl champion. And I think that's the caliber of 860 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 1: person and player that the RAMS are looking for in 861 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 1: recent years. And I think, you know, look, I'm excited 862 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,440 Speaker 1: to see where's Cooper Cup's rehab at. And you know, 863 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,400 Speaker 1: I think it's critical times for someone like Obo Coarnquo, 864 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 1: who when he finally was healthy, there just there wasn't 865 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,400 Speaker 1: time and there weren't practice reps available for him to 866 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 1: get up to NFL speed or to demonstrate to his 867 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 1: coaching staff that he was ready for that, or for 868 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 1: his coaching staff to even spend time with him on 869 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 1: the reps and the techniques that it would take. Now 870 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:40,279 Speaker 1: there are those moments, and so you know, for soon 871 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,840 Speaker 1: to be second year players, I think this is the 872 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 1: most exciting time because what work have you put in 873 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,760 Speaker 1: away from the facility to get ready for your next step? 874 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,400 Speaker 1: And then what can we do as an organization to 875 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 1: bring you along to make someone like mikea Kaiser a 876 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 1: starting linebacker, or to get Obo some situational pass rushes 877 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 1: or things like that. Yeah, Yeah, it's all about that 878 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 1: situational masters stuff that Sean mcvigh talks so much about. 879 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 1: And it's on the walls in the facility. This is 880 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,959 Speaker 1: where as you just said, Jabie, you start to lay 881 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:15,160 Speaker 1: down the foundation for that. And it's this kind of 882 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 1: time where, especially now that you've had a coaching staff 883 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 1: that has had two season, two full seasons, two off 884 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 1: season programs to implement things. Now you're in a situation 885 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,320 Speaker 1: where it's like, okay, you're you're going from like advanced 886 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 1: math to calculus. Right in the offense, you can really 887 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 1: start building upon different things that you've done in the 888 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 1: past and to have the same offensive core basically that 889 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,440 Speaker 1: you've had for now three seasons. When you're talking about 890 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:47,440 Speaker 1: guys like Goff, like Girley, you know, Robert Woods has 891 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 1: been here, Andrew Whitworth has been there for all this time, 892 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,319 Speaker 1: and even really on the offensive line, it's not like 893 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 1: and yes, the draft can still come and they can 894 00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,959 Speaker 1: still implement a rookie, but guys like Joe Nope, Boom, 895 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,760 Speaker 1: Brian Allen up front, they've still been in the system, 896 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,400 Speaker 1: so they can also build upon what they've already learned. 897 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,359 Speaker 1: I think that is so important, having all of that 898 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 1: continuity within the building so that you can keep building 899 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 1: upon what you've already been putting on film. Yeah. I 900 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 1: mean again, it's not sexy, it's not like headline driving 901 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 1: time of the year, but I know the coaches relish it, 902 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 1: and I think for players who see maybe their first 903 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 1: major professional opportunity in front of them, this is the time. 904 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:32,279 Speaker 1: I mean, you got to come in with a full 905 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:33,959 Speaker 1: head of steam in the next couple of weeks, because 906 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,279 Speaker 1: then there's a draft class coming next, and then there'll 907 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 1: be a training camp roster who if you're not going 908 00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,360 Speaker 1: to see that opportunity, they want to leap frog you 909 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 1: and take it from you. Yes, yeah, there are going 910 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,319 Speaker 1: to be a bunch of people coming in trying to 911 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,320 Speaker 1: take a job from you. And so as the RAMS 912 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,760 Speaker 1: roster stands right now, there's about sixty five and sixty 913 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 1: seven players on it at this point, and so that 914 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,840 Speaker 1: means in order to get to ninety, right, there's still 915 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 1: going to be a good twenty five probably rookies, undrafted guys, 916 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:04,800 Speaker 1: guys who get cut from other places. They're all gonna 917 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 1: come in and they're all going to start to try 918 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 1: to really compete with you. And if you can show 919 00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,960 Speaker 1: that you have made a lot of progress over the 920 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,239 Speaker 1: course of the off season, right, guys like Obo okoron quoll, 921 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,239 Speaker 1: what can we really do now to help teach you 922 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,279 Speaker 1: and help get you in on the field for some 923 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,279 Speaker 1: situational pass rushing because of all the injuries and everything 924 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,920 Speaker 1: you weren't able to do last year. Okay, that means 925 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 1: that now this rookie that's coming in, he probably is 926 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,839 Speaker 1: not going to be able to take your job. Right 927 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,800 Speaker 1: But if you have not done put in the work 928 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,160 Speaker 1: for yourself and you're not really attacking everything that comes 929 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,960 Speaker 1: along with getting in the classroom then getting out on 930 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 1: the field doing all that conditioning work right now, like that, 931 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,319 Speaker 1: that's gonna that's what's really gonna set you back. You know, 932 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 1: it's all about the self right now. The opponent is 933 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,560 Speaker 1: the self. Can you defeat the self? And so that's 934 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:57,719 Speaker 1: what makes this time that you're so interesting. Yeah, let's go. 935 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,000 Speaker 1: Let's go a little bit around the NFC West too 936 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:02,920 Speaker 1: before we get out of here. And because I like 937 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:07,520 Speaker 1: this Kyler Murray and Josh Rosen situation in Arizona is 938 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:11,560 Speaker 1: so intriguing to me because you don't often see I 939 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,480 Speaker 1: don't think I've ever seen actually a team take a 940 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,960 Speaker 1: quarterback in the first round and then immediately give up 941 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,799 Speaker 1: on him. The next year. I don't know what they're doing. 942 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,279 Speaker 1: I'm still not completely convinced that they're actually going to 943 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,200 Speaker 1: do it, but it sure looks like they're going to 944 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,480 Speaker 1: do it. Yeah. I mean, there's so much smoke around 945 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,480 Speaker 1: this that they're almost has to be fire. Look, part 946 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 1: of this is because I've covered Josh as a collegiate 947 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:36,480 Speaker 1: and I think very highly of him, and I think 948 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:40,400 Speaker 1: he is a starting caliber quarterback, maybe even above average 949 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:44,040 Speaker 1: starting caliber quarterback, And I think, having been familiar with 950 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,400 Speaker 1: some of the rookie situations that he found himself in 951 00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 1: last year, it's a shame to see them give up 952 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 1: on him. As an opponent of the Arizona Cardinals, I'm 953 00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 1: not necessarily upset if they choose to go with first 954 00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,560 Speaker 1: year head coach rookie quarterback, and if they choose to 955 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:03,440 Speaker 1: give up on someone of Josh Rosen's skill set, I'd 956 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,959 Speaker 1: feel a lot better about it if there wasn't another 957 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,880 Speaker 1: NFC West team waiting to take Bosa right behind them, 958 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,520 Speaker 1: because you know you're not going to dodge that one. 959 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,200 Speaker 1: It doesn't seem I don't know, what's what's your take? Like, 960 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:21,239 Speaker 1: are they going Kingsbury Murray? Here? Like? Is this the 961 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,960 Speaker 1: start of a new future for Arizona. It seems like 962 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,080 Speaker 1: it almost has to be. But even like with the 963 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:30,560 Speaker 1: president of Jared Goff and Mitchell Trubisky, I know that's 964 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 1: that's where that's where it gets really interesting to me. 965 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,319 Speaker 1: And I remember seeing this tweetum from Vinnie bosen Or 966 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,319 Speaker 1: of the Athletic and she said that he had talked to, 967 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:43,320 Speaker 1: you know, a couple of NFC West executives, and basically 968 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,440 Speaker 1: what they had told him was that if I'm an 969 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,840 Speaker 1: opponent of the Arizona Cardinals, which quarterback would I rather face, 970 00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,120 Speaker 1: you know, for all the coming years, and the quarterback 971 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,640 Speaker 1: I would rather face, it's probably Josh Rosen, which means 972 00:47:55,920 --> 00:48:00,279 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray to them is a scarier prospect, which is 973 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:05,520 Speaker 1: interesting because, Okay, how does his skill set really transferred 974 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:09,600 Speaker 1: to the NFL. Hey, he's faster than everybody, which is huge, 975 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,480 Speaker 1: and so yes, if you've got that running quarterback, great, 976 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,839 Speaker 1: that's one element of it. But when you're talking I 977 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:21,280 Speaker 1: think again, head coach, rookie quarterback, it just it makes 978 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,560 Speaker 1: it way tougher. It just does. And even with all 979 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 1: of the bad experiences, I suppose you could say that 980 00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,880 Speaker 1: Josh Rosen had last year where I mean that Arizona 981 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,719 Speaker 1: game that the Rams played in Arizona. Arizona's best offensive 982 00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,720 Speaker 1: play was basically Josh Rosen running for his life away 983 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:41,080 Speaker 1: from Aaron Donald, right, and he's Aaron Donald still got 984 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,160 Speaker 1: three sex in that game. So when you have somebody 985 00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,799 Speaker 1: who's already experienced that and there's only one way for 986 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,680 Speaker 1: him to go, that's up. And you know, I watched 987 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,040 Speaker 1: a good amount of his games too, having been out 988 00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:53,840 Speaker 1: here when he was going through his last couple of 989 00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:55,880 Speaker 1: years of college. And I think it's a very talented 990 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,719 Speaker 1: quarterback as well. So it's about this, Okay, can you 991 00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,600 Speaker 1: really who would you rather build with? I guess is 992 00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 1: the question that they're trying to ask themselves, right is 993 00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,560 Speaker 1: the question they probably are asking themselves right now. And 994 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,279 Speaker 1: with all the smoke, it's like, all right, I think 995 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:15,719 Speaker 1: it's Kyler Murray, which is just so interesting. I don't 996 00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,080 Speaker 1: know many Maybe I'm just not as big a believer 997 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:22,080 Speaker 1: in Kyler or any rookie quarterback. I just part of it, too, 998 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:23,480 Speaker 1: is like what are you going to get in return 999 00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,440 Speaker 1: for Josh? Like I think that should factor in heavily. 1000 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 1: I think if Josh was coming out in this class, 1001 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,799 Speaker 1: Like if he had just completed his UCLA tenure and 1002 00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:33,919 Speaker 1: you didn't know what you know about him as a pro, 1003 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,319 Speaker 1: he might be the number one overall pick. Again, he's 1004 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,360 Speaker 1: certainly like the top five, top ten pick, I believe, 1005 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,520 Speaker 1: but it doesn't sound like they're going to get a 1006 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,680 Speaker 1: high first round pick and return for him, at least 1007 00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:50,000 Speaker 1: not at this stage. To me. That's also perplexing in 1008 00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:53,680 Speaker 1: terms of why is he I mean, he already fell 1009 00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:55,040 Speaker 1: in the draft, right, what do you say, like, I'm 1010 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:56,680 Speaker 1: gonna make the ten teams and the nine teams that 1011 00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:01,239 Speaker 1: didn't take me like pay Like, I don't know. I 1012 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,480 Speaker 1: think Josh Rosen will find a home and be a 1013 00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:07,440 Speaker 1: successful pro quarterback somewhere. Of course, I also thought that 1014 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,160 Speaker 1: Jimmy Clawson was the most accurate college quarterback I'd ever seen, 1015 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:11,719 Speaker 1: and would say a lot of the same things about 1016 00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:15,240 Speaker 1: him a decade ago. So what do I know? Well, 1017 00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,719 Speaker 1: I mean, that's okay. We don't We don't always get 1018 00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:19,880 Speaker 1: it right, right, I mean, especially those of us who 1019 00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:23,360 Speaker 1: don't say college either way. The future, the quarterback complexion 1020 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,960 Speaker 1: of the NFC West, whether it's Murray or Rosen, for 1021 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,800 Speaker 1: years to come, especially if you know, Seattle gets this 1022 00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,280 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson deal done, which I can't imagine why they wouldn't, 1023 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,440 Speaker 1: you know, Wilson, Garoppolo, Goff and whoever it is that 1024 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,160 Speaker 1: Arizona decides to roll with. I mean, that's as strong 1025 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:41,080 Speaker 1: a quarterback conference as any in football. Yes, no, vision, absolutely, 1026 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,919 Speaker 1: And I think you know what you said about Russell Wilson. Look, 1027 00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,280 Speaker 1: this whole contract situation there is interesting to me because 1028 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,880 Speaker 1: it Seattle Times reported basically that Russell Wilson kind of 1029 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,000 Speaker 1: gave this ultimatum or hey, I need a new contract 1030 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,960 Speaker 1: by April fifteen. And then it also then came out 1031 00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,280 Speaker 1: was that, oh, well, you know, if I'm Russell Wilson, 1032 00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,120 Speaker 1: I'll still be at all the off season program. So 1033 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,799 Speaker 1: that's really not an ultimatum. But and also these contracts 1034 00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,680 Speaker 1: that the mega deals and things like that, they usually 1035 00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:10,280 Speaker 1: get done in the summer, right after the draft, after 1036 00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,560 Speaker 1: the off season program, after OTAs. So I just thought 1037 00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:17,520 Speaker 1: that this this date of April fifteenth, like that's tax day, bro, 1038 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:21,359 Speaker 1: that's very artificial, Like it's not it's not usually the 1039 00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:25,239 Speaker 1: time where those things happen. But you know, I, as 1040 00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,360 Speaker 1: you said, I don't see Seattle doing anything but making 1041 00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,440 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson the highest paid player in the NFL, at 1042 00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,399 Speaker 1: least for a few months. I mean, it's his turn, right, 1043 00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,520 Speaker 1: And when you have those credentials in your quarterback contract 1044 00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,719 Speaker 1: comes up, you leap frog whoever it was before you? Dan? 1045 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,080 Speaker 1: Was it? Is it Aaron Rodgers? Right now? I think so? Yeah, 1046 00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:42,719 Speaker 1: So that's the number to beat, and I'm sure he'll 1047 00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,840 Speaker 1: beat it. And in many ways I think that makes sense. 1048 00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:49,600 Speaker 1: Like two seasons ago, I think he was responsible for 1049 00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:53,040 Speaker 1: throwing or running for all but one of Seattle's offensive touchdowns. 1050 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:57,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it was as close to having an MVP 1051 00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,320 Speaker 1: season on a team that didn't make the playoffs. Is 1052 00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,520 Speaker 1: I think you'll ever yet? On the other hand, is 1053 00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,960 Speaker 1: it also a bit paradoxical? Paradoxical to have the highest 1054 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:06,960 Speaker 1: paid quarterback in football when you're the team that runs 1055 00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:10,480 Speaker 1: it more than any team in football? Maybe, but at 1056 00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,680 Speaker 1: least he is a running quarterback, Yeah, I mean, and 1057 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,319 Speaker 1: and he's still he is a team he excuse me, 1058 00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,560 Speaker 1: he's a guy who knows how to make plays in 1059 00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,640 Speaker 1: clutch situations and that's what I think you kind of 1060 00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,480 Speaker 1: pay for, you know, And he's won you a super Bowl. 1061 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,320 Speaker 1: He brought you to within a play of conceivably winning another, 1062 00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:32,920 Speaker 1: and at that point, you know he's earned the contract. Like, 1063 00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,759 Speaker 1: it's hard to overpay a quarterback who can achieve at 1064 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,080 Speaker 1: the level that Russell Wilson achieves. That. Yes, I mean, 1065 00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,160 Speaker 1: that's a mistake you should be and can be willing 1066 00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:43,160 Speaker 1: to make because someone's going to surpass him really soon. 1067 00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,200 Speaker 1: And then Jared Goffs turn will come up, and you know, 1068 00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:49,799 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is apparently already down that pat Like, that's 1069 00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,719 Speaker 1: the one position you can afford to make a quote 1070 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,800 Speaker 1: unquote financial mistake if even if he doesn't earn every penny, 1071 00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:57,600 Speaker 1: he's pretty good. Yes, yeah, I mean you can't do 1072 00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,520 Speaker 1: better than him right now. No, absolutely not. And it's 1073 00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,040 Speaker 1: the most position in sports. And that's that's where I 1074 00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,680 Speaker 1: think it's so interesting where people will say, oh, my gosh, 1075 00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,759 Speaker 1: you can't keep paying these quarterbacks this that in the 1076 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,719 Speaker 1: third look, the salary cap is going to keep going up, right, 1077 00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:14,040 Speaker 1: and the more the more experience the quarterback gets, the 1078 00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,799 Speaker 1: better he's going to be. And that sort of frustrates 1079 00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,520 Speaker 1: me with the oh, you know, they need to just 1080 00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,080 Speaker 1: trade him. And then they got to get somebody younger 1081 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:23,960 Speaker 1: and da da da dah, because you know you have 1082 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,279 Speaker 1: a good enough offensive coaching staff, you can still do 1083 00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:31,560 Speaker 1: x y Z. I think that just completely disregards the 1084 00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:35,759 Speaker 1: benefit of experience that quarterbacks have, and especially when you 1085 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,399 Speaker 1: like think about Sean Payton and Drew Brees, right, they 1086 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,120 Speaker 1: basically have a symbiotic relationship at this point, they know 1087 00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,279 Speaker 1: what each other is thinking. You cannot dismiss that at 1088 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,160 Speaker 1: the most important position in sports. To me, so that 1089 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,080 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't like the the oh, trade your 1090 00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,839 Speaker 1: quarterback before he needs a new contract and then draft 1091 00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,600 Speaker 1: another one. It just totally oversimplifies it, and I'm tie 1092 00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,360 Speaker 1: it all together. Maybe that's what murraying Kingsbury think that 1093 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,960 Speaker 1: they can be. Yeah, maybe to have that nucleus, that 1094 00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:06,000 Speaker 1: quarterback coach in nucleus. You want it to be as 1095 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,879 Speaker 1: air tight as possible. And maybe that's why they're willing 1096 00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:10,279 Speaker 1: to make the move that it seems like they're going 1097 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,560 Speaker 1: to make. Yeah, yeah, I guess all right, jb Any 1098 00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:14,719 Speaker 1: parting shots before we get out of here, did you 1099 00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:16,200 Speaker 1: want to take a stab at the opener in case 1100 00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:19,160 Speaker 1: we don't talk before a schedule release. Yes, yes, let's 1101 00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:22,560 Speaker 1: do that. You go first. I think that it's going 1102 00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,160 Speaker 1: to be the second Monday night football game. Again, I 1103 00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,799 Speaker 1: think that the Rams are an attractive team to put 1104 00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,879 Speaker 1: in that window, like three out of the last four years. Yes, 1105 00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,520 Speaker 1: so I tend to think it will be at San 1106 00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:39,000 Speaker 1: Francisco or at Seattle week one. Okay, if it is 1107 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:42,960 Speaker 1: that Monday night window, you're pretty much restricted to division opponents, 1108 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,040 Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken right, because it's a late start, 1109 00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:46,880 Speaker 1: so you need a West Coast opponent. You don't want 1110 00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:50,080 Speaker 1: to be like New Orleans is out, Dallas is out. 1111 00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I think they're out for other reasons, including 1112 00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,719 Speaker 1: like the competitive stakes of those games. You want them 1113 00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,720 Speaker 1: to be farther down the schedule if you're the NFL. 1114 00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,040 Speaker 1: But just in terms of time zone, you can't be 1115 00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,080 Speaker 1: kicking off at it is ten whatever in New Orleans 1116 00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,680 Speaker 1: on Monday night. I don't think. Since we mentioned Arizona, 1117 00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,600 Speaker 1: I wouldn't rule that one out either. Like if you 1118 00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:11,120 Speaker 1: do go Monday night football, Cliffs debut Kyler Murray number 1119 00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:16,280 Speaker 1: one overall pick, you know, I could see that. Otherwise 1120 00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,520 Speaker 1: you might just you might just draw the old Sunday 1121 00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,439 Speaker 1: afternoon game, kind of like Indianapolis a couple of years ago. 1122 00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:25,080 Speaker 1: USC will be home to Stanford that week. I checked 1123 00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:28,600 Speaker 1: Saturday of week one, So I always prefer to, like 1124 00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:32,080 Speaker 1: not necessarily be up against a USC game from the 1125 00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,799 Speaker 1: day or the night before. But yes, one more year 1126 00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,200 Speaker 1: at the coliseum, the renovated coliseum, and then we don't 1127 00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,319 Speaker 1: have to worry about that anymore. Yes, no doubt about that. 1128 00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,600 Speaker 1: All right. Well, everybody, thank you so much for tuning 1129 00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,239 Speaker 1: in to this edition of Between the Horns. Love having 1130 00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,360 Speaker 1: you on the program. JB. Good to see you, Miles. 1131 00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,640 Speaker 1: Here we go with season number two, the spring season, Yes, 1132 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,799 Speaker 1: the spring season, all right, everybody. For more on Los 1133 00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,360 Speaker 1: Angeles Rams, and for all of your offseason coverage, be 1134 00:55:55,400 --> 00:56:00,239 Speaker 1: sure tee the lock on the rams dot com. So 1135 00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,800 Speaker 1: then ran into them expand it