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Speaker 1: at least we should. It's a tough job, but the

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Speaker 1: and hopefully it's worth it. As the season stays on

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Speaker 1: source in the NFL works for the NFL, and I

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Speaker 1: feel like they're being treated unfairly? And wrote me back,

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Speaker 1: classic hypocrisy. They won't be vigilant about the protocols on

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Speaker 1: the back end for consequences of these violations. Jim Harball,

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Speaker 1: John Harball's coaching staff responsible for the outbreak. There nobody

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Speaker 1: to blame but themselves. So you have this game, we

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Speaker 1: their schedule. We're playing a Wednesday afternoon game. Not fair

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Speaker 1: But he's still great. It eventually caught up with him.

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Speaker 1: I'm Calvin Johnson Todd. First of all, I don't know

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Speaker 1: it down, I would say he's not seeing the field

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Speaker 1: with clarity. He made some throws yesterday that we're kind

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Speaker 1: of kind of head scratches as well. And it's been

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Speaker 1: that way all season long. He has not played, through

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Speaker 1: eleven games, a solid game at quarterback, and in the

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Speaker 1: National Football League, this is obviously a quarterback driven game.

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Speaker 1: Your quarterback must play to a high level to win

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Speaker 1: football games. Now, I'm not gonna blame it all on him.

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Speaker 1: I don't like Jalen Hurts coming in for one or

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Speaker 1: two snaps a game. I went through that back in

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Speaker 1: the day with Randall Cunningham or I would come out

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Speaker 1: on third and seven or more and Randall would come

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Speaker 1: in and he breaks down the whole consistency of playing

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Speaker 1: the quarterback position, I think for the team as well

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Speaker 1: as the individual. But the Eagles have cho chosen to

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Speaker 1: go that way. Why I don't know, but I thought

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Speaker 1: we would see more Jalen Hurts. After the Eagles went

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Speaker 1: over five on their first three possessions, three and outs. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I did too. I just thought, you know, either put

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Speaker 1: him in or don't put him in. Like you sort

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Speaker 1: of put him in then you you know, you take

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Speaker 1: him out. And as you know, it's all about rhythm,

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Speaker 1: and you get that rhythm going offense gets the rhythm,

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Speaker 1: you get confidence there. But they don't have any of that.

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Speaker 1: Would you would you start Jalen Hurts? There's there's a

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Speaker 1: reason Jalen Hurts is not starting. He's not good enough.

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Speaker 1: Not that he won't be someday, but with this pandemic

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Speaker 1: that we're all dealing with right now COVID nineteen, there

451
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Speaker 1: was no offseason. Those are important. There was no training camp,

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Speaker 1: that's important. There were no preseason games to develop a

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Speaker 1: young quarterback. That's important. I think it would be a

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Speaker 1: disservice to Jalen Hurts to put him out there. The

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Speaker 1: number one goal of the head coach and the team

456
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Speaker 1: is to win. You want to put the best players

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Speaker 1: on the field, like give you the best chance to win.

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Speaker 1: Apparently from the coaching staff and Doug Peterson, Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 1: is ready to step in. You know, you could damage

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Speaker 1: a young quarterback for his whole career. And I always

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Speaker 1: think of a guy that always comes to my mind,

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Speaker 1: Patrick Ramsey, who I thought had enormous talent with the

463
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Speaker 1: Washington football team now, but he got beat up so

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Speaker 1: bad they were losing and he never recovered from that.

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Speaker 1: So this is a football team right now in Philly

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Speaker 1: that's in a transition phase. This is not a team

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Speaker 1: that's going to compete, you know, for the playoffs or

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Speaker 1: a super Bowl for for a number of years right now.

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Speaker 1: This team needs to be retooled now. The question and

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Speaker 1: now is you'renna have to ask Doug Peterson, who are

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Speaker 1: you going to retool with? Ask Kylie Roseman, you know,

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Speaker 1: ask Jeffrey Lorrie. Who are you going to retool with?

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Speaker 1: Who's your quarterback going to be? Who's the guy you're

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Speaker 1: gonna hang your hat on for this next three to

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Speaker 1: five years. Who's more likely to be back next year,

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Speaker 1: the coach or the quarterback. They'll both be back. I

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Speaker 1: just think it's so unfair to evaluate coaches front office people.

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Speaker 1: You know, the Matt Patricia's, the Bill O'Brien's and Dan quinns.

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Speaker 1: These guys got fired. I mean, and football is a

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Speaker 1: game of creatures of habit. You keep doing the same

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Speaker 1: anything over and over again. And that's been the farthest

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Speaker 1: thing from this season. So these coaches have been held

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Speaker 1: accountable for things that are out of their control. How

484
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Speaker 1: would you like to be vic Fanjoe on Sunday and

485
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: running out a football team where your quarterback hasn't played

486
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Speaker 1: in two years and it was in college and you

487
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Speaker 1: expect to beat to the Wardens Saints. That's not fair

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Speaker 1: to coaches. That's not fair to a football team. And

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Speaker 1: I heard you're talking earlier. This is not fair the

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Speaker 1: way this season is playing out. We're talking to Ron Hiwarski,

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Speaker 1: the former Eagles quarterback working for Westwood One and was

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Speaker 1: on the broadcast call with Kevin Harland last night. What

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Speaker 1: did you think of Seattle? I think they're a good

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Speaker 1: football team that has a chance to be a really

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Speaker 1: good football team. Russell Wilson is such a catalyst for

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Speaker 1: them offensively. And Jamal Adams, I'm telling you, I opened

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Speaker 1: the telecasked with if you're watching this game, and when

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz breaks from the huddle, he shouldn't locate number

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Speaker 1: thirty three. That's the guy that really is going to

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Speaker 1: dictate the tempo of the game. He blitzes about twenty

501
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Speaker 1: four percent of the time. He's going to be the

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Speaker 1: catalyst or that football team. And when you think of

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Speaker 1: you know, Earl Thomas and Cam Chancer and the legion

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Speaker 1: of the doom In Channel, Jamal Adams brings that to

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Speaker 1: this football team. And Carlos Dunlop, a mid season accumuisition,

506
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Speaker 1: has given them that edge rusher that they need. So

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Speaker 1: they're getting better. But how about dk Metcalf. This guy

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00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: is He's unbelievable. And I still don't understand Darius Lay

509
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: shadowing him every single play. Jim Schwartz, please mix it

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Speaker 1: up a little bit. I mean, you know what you got.

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Speaker 1: He's getting beat for one hundred and seventy seven yards.

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Speaker 1: Go to some zone, go to some double teams. Do

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Speaker 1: something a little bit different. It didn't seem they did.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna play this for you because a DK Metcalf

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Speaker 1: after the game talked about Jim Schwartz comparing him to

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Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson. I want you to hear it, and then

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Speaker 1: I want you to translate here for us Jaws, here's

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Speaker 1: DK Metcalf. What's your mindset going into a game when

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Speaker 1: you know or when you feel like you're going to

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00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 1: see a lot of opposing teams. Number one cornerback, what's

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Speaker 1: your mindset going into it? I'm heavy, I'm getting a

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Speaker 1: little respect, but you know, I still got work to do. Um.

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Speaker 1: One of the defensive coaches came up to me and

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Speaker 1: it kind of made me mad that he was like, um,

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Speaker 1: you know I was. I was in Detroit with Megatron,

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Speaker 1: but you're not there yet. Um. You know, in my mind,

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be Megatron. I'm trying to be me.

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Speaker 1: So um, you know they had had a little chip

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Speaker 1: on my shoulder the whole game was that Jim Schwartz. Uh, yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: all right, interpret this? What was Jim? But it was

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Speaker 1: Jim Schwartz trying to compliment DK Metcalf. Yes, I believe so.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he was over there and being antagonistic

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Speaker 1: to him. I think he has great respect for him. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And certainly Megatron was a great player, and Jim Schwartz

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Speaker 1: was in Detroit when he was there, so he's very

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Speaker 1: familiar with them. And they are both elite athletes, So

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Speaker 1: Megatron was and certainly not DK Metcalf and and Dan.

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Speaker 1: You've been around this game long enough, you know what

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Speaker 1: goes on pre game. You know, these coaches are out

540
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: there their business cards in their pocket because a lot

541
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: of them are gonna get fired, and they're they're renewing

542
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: old acquaintances with other teams. And he probably ran ran

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Speaker 1: into DKA, right. I don't see it as inflammatory, you know,

544
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Speaker 1: I don't see Jim as that kind of guy. He

545
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: could be quirky occasionally, but he's never been that kind

546
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Speaker 1: of guy, usually very socially for the game. I thought

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Speaker 1: it was a compliment because DK Metcalf is not Calvin Johnson.

548
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Speaker 1: He reminds me. He might reminds me a little bit

549
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: more of Teo than Calvin Johnson. But it's still a

550
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: compliment when I say, hey, but you're on your way.

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00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: He's only been in the league a couple of years. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if someone came up to meet your game

553
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Speaker 1: and said, hey, Jaws, you look like Joe Namath. I'd

554
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Speaker 1: be like really happy. Wow, that's a real compliment, you know.

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Speaker 1: But if if they came they said you look like him,

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Speaker 1: he didn't play like him, and you just look like him, Yeah,

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00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: I get it. Did you cross Panis with Namath? Oh? Yeah? Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You know, you know, I was a I grew up

559
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: in Buffalo, New York, a suburb called Lackawan, and I

560
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: was a Buffalo Bill season ticket holder. And those are

561
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: the old AFL days, you know, the you know, the

562
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Speaker 1: Bills and the Jets at that time, and you know,

563
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Speaker 1: I went to a I went to a game in

564
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: those days. You could literally walk right on the fielder

565
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: about five yards in the field and Joe Nabel's warming

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Speaker 1: up at the end zone. I remember seeing old number twelve.

567
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Speaker 1: They're just spend it. I'm going there. I could do that.

568
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: I could do that. So it kind of gave me

569
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Speaker 1: some some motivation to want to work hard at my craft.

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00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: But also Nameth through an effortless ball. I don't and

571
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Speaker 1: he had those real small shoulder pads, but he had

572
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Speaker 1: he threw a beautiful deep ball. I don't know. What

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Speaker 1: the difference is, Like, what is that jaws where Warren

574
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Speaker 1: Moon through maybe the best deep ball I've ever seen,

575
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Speaker 1: Jeff George through a great deep ball, But what is

576
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: it about that ability? Damn throw this guy there, Jeff Blake.

577
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Speaker 1: I thought for a number of years of the Bengals

578
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Speaker 1: one of the best deep ball throwers in the game.

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Speaker 1: Some guys, you know, Russell Wilson right now throws that

580
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Speaker 1: high arcing rainbow that drops down the chimney, you know,

581
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: right into receiver's hands. So it's getting on those deep balls.

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Speaker 1: You gotta get the nose up and a good trajectory

583
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Speaker 1: on the football, and some guys just have that art,

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Speaker 1: you know, and usually power throwers. And quite honestly, that's

585
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Speaker 1: what I was as a player, and I see a

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Speaker 1: lot of guys power throwers have a tougher time with

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Speaker 1: that deep, high arching throw because there's so used to

588
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: firing these you know, bullets in there too, between linebackers

589
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: and safeties and secondary players, so it's harder to develop

590
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: that deep, high arching throw. Well, speaking of the deep ball,

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady and that offense in Tampa Bay, are they

592
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: running the right offense for Brady's skill set? Yes, I'm

593
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Speaker 1: bewildered by some of the comments that I you know,

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00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: that I hear from other people. And again, I base

595
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Speaker 1: a lot of you know, my feeling on the screen

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00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: that I have right back there, and I watch all

597
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: the you know, the coaching tape on that screen, and

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00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: Tom Brady is still playing at a very high level.

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Speaker 1: It's going to take some time to assimilate into this offense,

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Speaker 1: and it's a different style of offense, but Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: eventually will get this and they're gonna be a force

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Speaker 1: to recommend. There's a lot of talent right now on

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00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: that buccaneer offense. It's gonna come together for him. But

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Speaker 1: why is there this disconnector it feels like there's a

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00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: little bit of tension there with arians and are we

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Speaker 1: creating this jaws? Yes, yeah, thank you, Dan. I think

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Speaker 1: I really think, you know, I think the media just

608
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: looking for something to talk about. You know, you got

609
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Speaker 1: Tom Brady. I think everyone thought they were going to

610
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Speaker 1: go sixteen to O because you acquired you know, the

611
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: greatest of all time to go and all these weapons.

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00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: Football is the consummate team game. The timing and rhythm

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00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: of an offense has to be precise and exquisite. It

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00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: is not right now, but this receiving corpdown in Tampa

615
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: is very, very good. They can run the football. I

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Speaker 1: think their offensive line has to pick their playoffs someone

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Speaker 1: because Tom needs protection. He's a plant, step and throw guy.

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Speaker 1: He's not going to be mobile and slide and move

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Speaker 1: around the pocket, so he needs help from his offensive

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Speaker 1: line and the defense. By the way, Todd Bowle has

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Speaker 1: done a really good job of his defense. I think

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Speaker 1: eventually they get to buy this week, they're gonna start

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Speaker 1: coming together. There's way too much talent. Okay, we were

624
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Speaker 1: just ripping Jim Schwartz for his defense on DK Metcalf.

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Speaker 1: What the hell was Todd Bowles and the Buccaneers thinking

626
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: single coverage on Tyreek Hill? I wish I could answer that.

627
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: I have no idea. I mean, he only had two

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Speaker 1: hundred and seventy yards in the first quarter. He was

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Speaker 1: on pace for a thousand yard receiving game. Johns a

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Speaker 1: thousand yards. Yeah, I agree. I think two of those

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Speaker 1: coveries were blown coverages, by the way, but hey, you

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Speaker 1: don't you still and look at the dimes that Mahomes

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Speaker 1: through though he you know, there was there was a

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Speaker 1: couple of wide open and a couple of great throws.

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Speaker 1: But that's what you get with Patrick Mahomes, That's what

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Speaker 1: you get with the Turek Hill. That's what you get

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Speaker 1: with Jason Kelsey. I mean there is and that's a

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Speaker 1: wealth of a wealth of talent on that chief's offense.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna do that to a lot of people. Always

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Speaker 1: great to talk to you, John's Thank you, Dan, You're

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Speaker 1: the best. Thank you, buddy. Be sure to catch the

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Speaker 1: live edition of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine

643
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Speaker 1: am Eastern six am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and

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00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: the iHeart Radio app. Jeff Threebeck is the senior staff

645
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Speaker 1: writer for The Athletic. He covers the Ravens. He joins

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Speaker 1: us now, Jeff, thanks for joining us. Where are the

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Speaker 1: Ravens players right now? Ravens players are at home, but

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Speaker 1: they'll have The hope is that they'll have a practice

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Speaker 1: later today and one another walk through practice, which would

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Speaker 1: be a second straight day with the walkthrough, and then

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Speaker 1: at least the tentative plan tonight is to fly out

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Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh, you know, and to continue preparations for the

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Speaker 1: game tomorrow afternoon. But of course that's all, you know,

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Speaker 1: pending because they're gonna have to wait to see if

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Speaker 1: there's any positive tests from this morning's batch of tests.

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Speaker 1: And they're now at nine straight days with positive tests

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Speaker 1: in that building, So that's hardly a given that there

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Speaker 1: won't be And there was no chance Lamar Jackson was

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Speaker 1: going to be able to play. Yeah, no, you know,

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Speaker 1: he's he's in the middle of a you know, a

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Speaker 1: ten day isolation after he tested positive over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: The hope is that he will have enough time to

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Speaker 1: be back for you know, the Dallas game, which was

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Speaker 1: moved to next Tuesday. Now, I heard from a source

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Speaker 1: this morning and I want to bring this to your

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Speaker 1: attention about what has gone on with the Ravens. And

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Speaker 1: this came from a league source last night saying that

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Speaker 1: because I said, do the Ravens feel like they're being

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Speaker 1: picked on? And what I got was classic hypocrisy, They

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Speaker 1: won't be vigilant about the protocols in the front end.

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00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: John Harball crysis being screwed on the back end for

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Speaker 1: consequences of said violations. His coaching staff was responsible for

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Speaker 1: the outbreak there. What do you make of that comment, Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, there's still work being done to figure out

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Speaker 1: how you know, the entry point in the building. But

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Speaker 1: obviously there's a lot of focus on the strength and

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Speaker 1: conditioning coach. The Ravens disciplined him and suspended him for

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Speaker 1: a while and we'll see about that. But yeah, obviously,

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Speaker 1: when you have this many cases and we're talking about

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Speaker 1: over thirty now in the building, you know, not just

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Speaker 1: counting players, we're talking about support staff, you have to

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Speaker 1: wonder whether the protocol was all being followed. And the

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Speaker 1: Ravens had said a lot this year about how comfortable

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Speaker 1: they were with the protocol and how much money and

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Speaker 1: time they invested in it. And now they've had the

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Speaker 1: team with the biggest you know, they've been the team

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Speaker 1: with the biggest outbreak in the NFL. So there's obviously

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Speaker 1: some questions there that they're going to have to answer

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Speaker 1: in terms of whether they're following protocol on what they

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Speaker 1: were and we're not doing I'm trying to separate fact

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Speaker 1: from fiction as well when it comes to this story

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Speaker 1: with the Ravens. Was there the possibility of a wildcat

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Speaker 1: strike of the Ravens. Was that topic broached by the team.

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Speaker 1: I know there were some players that were, you know,

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Speaker 1: weren't willing to play they did not want to play Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: and they made it clear and that kind of started

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Speaker 1: on Sunday, you know, Sunday afternoon, they had a virtual

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Speaker 1: meeting with NFL chief medical guru, doctor Allen Sills, and

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Speaker 1: apparently it was pretty tense, and players made clear they

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Speaker 1: weren't happy with how some certain situations were being handled.

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Speaker 1: They were particularly disappointed and kind of you know, frustrated

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Speaker 1: with the lack of a media tests on game day mornings.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is kind of you know, they had

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Speaker 1: multiple positive tests in November twenty seconds the morning the

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Speaker 1: Titans game, but all those people are on the field

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Speaker 1: or on the sideline because they didn't have the test

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Speaker 1: results between later that night. So it was pretty tense there,

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Speaker 1: you know, and they all weren't buying what doctor Stills

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Speaker 1: was saying. They were kind of disappointing some stuff. And

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Speaker 1: then the disappointment grew the next morning when they reported

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Speaker 1: the practice and they were sent home again because the

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Speaker 1: league wasn't ready to have them practice. So yeah, they were,

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Speaker 1: and then they had a player's only meeting where they

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Speaker 1: kind of decided that look, we're not playing on you know,

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Speaker 1: we're not willing really, Yeah, if I'm confused. Shouldn't the

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Speaker 1: Steelers be upset not the Ravens. Well, obviously the Steelers

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Speaker 1: should be upset, you know what I mean, they did

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Speaker 1: now the innocent bystander and two of these situations. But

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Speaker 1: the Ravens also, you know, have seety concerns from there

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Speaker 1: end too about the whole thing. But obviously depending on

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Speaker 1: whether the how this was brought into their building, you know,

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Speaker 1: there's definitely a case could be made that, you know,

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Speaker 1: they're at fault for a lot of this. How big

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Speaker 1: of a disappointment are the Ravens viewed in Baltimore and

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Speaker 1: how they handle this iss? No, No, they're just their

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Speaker 1: performance on the field. Oh yeah, there's been a lot

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Speaker 1: of frustration, Dan, I mean, it's just, you know, they

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Speaker 1: had high expectations this year and you know, starting with

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00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: the offense that really hasn't been productive all year, have

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Speaker 1: been very inconsistent. Obviously, the perception is quarterback Lamark Jackson

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Speaker 1: has taken a step back. They haven't played well, They've

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Speaker 1: been you know, in a lot of big games. So yeah, definitely,

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Speaker 1: I mean, before, you know, the loss of the Titans

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Speaker 1: sort of increase the frustration with the team, and ever

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Speaker 1: since we've had, you know, the COVID outbreak. But I'm

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Speaker 1: also wondering about Lamar Jackson. Did he take a step

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Speaker 1: back or did defenses take a step forward. I think

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Speaker 1: it's a combination of everything. I mean, they talked a

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Speaker 1: big game and all off season about needing to evolve

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Speaker 1: offensively because they knew defenses were gonna have a better

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Speaker 1: handle on what they were doing, and they just haven't

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Speaker 1: done that. They just haven't been able to adjust to

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Speaker 1: what defenses have been doing. I mean, some of it's

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00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: on personnel. The offensive line has taken a step back.

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Speaker 1: That hasn't helped Jackson. They don't have a top non

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Speaker 1: receiving corps. But Jackson's also missed some throws and he

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Speaker 1: has been unable to you know, unlock the downfield passing game,

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Speaker 1: and he just hasn't been as confident or as you know, Sharper,

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Speaker 1: as efficient as he was last year. So there's plenty

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Speaker 1: of blame to go around, but Jackson definitely has to

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Speaker 1: have the accountability in it. And how is this offense

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00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: different with RG three running it instead of Lamar Jackson.

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00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be a similar offense. But

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00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: obviously you don't have you know, the the athleticism and

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00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: the dimension. You know that, you know Lamar Jackson brings

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00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: He's one of a kind in that area. But Robert

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00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: Griffin's plenty capable. The issue is, you know, the offensive

758
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: line is a mess right now. They probably will start

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00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: a center who's never played in the NFL before. In

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00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: terms of offensive line, they don't have their fullback, they

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00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: don't have their blocking tight end, so they're kind of

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00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: a mess throughout the personnel. But I'm sure they'll try

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00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: to keep their offense as similar as possible. And Robert

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00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: Griffin's beating the Steelers before. I know, it's a different

765
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: situation last year. But they'll be capable. You know, they'll

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Speaker 1: be capable of moving the ball, but they definitely have

767
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: a lot of hurdles to overcome in terms of all

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Speaker 1: the absences. Lamar Jackson sensitive with the media at all

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Speaker 1: with criticisms this year, No, you know, he's you know,

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Speaker 1: it's always been tough this year, Dan with the whole zooms.

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Speaker 1: You know, we haven't been in the locker room, we

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00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: haven't had in person press conferences, so it's always hard

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Speaker 1: to say how players are reacting. But he's been pretty

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Speaker 1: similar to what he was last year. I mean, he

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Speaker 1: has expressed you have seen him expressed more frustration on

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Speaker 1: the field. You've seen a couple of animated conversations that

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00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: you didn't really see last year. But I imagine that

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00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: all comes with the frustration of not playing as well

779
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: and the team losing. He's not traveling with the team. No, okay, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I mean the question is the one day delay really

781
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 1: it affects potentially two players JK. Dobbins and mark Ingram.

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00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 1: Their self isolation ends today. They're ten days so they

783
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: theoretically could fly tomorrow to Pittsburgh and they're gonna have

784
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Speaker 1: to do it early to get in turn for the

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00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: three forty kick off and they could play. But that's

786
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: going to be a decision they're gonna have to make

787
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: if you want two guys who have them play at

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00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: practice in ten days to kind of just jump right

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Speaker 1: on the field and play. Thank you, Jeff, you certainly

790
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: have a lot to write about there. Hopefully we get

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00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 1: this game in. We appreciate your time and thanks for

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00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: joining us again. Thanks for having me. That's Jeff Zerrebeck.

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Speaker 1: He's senior staff writer for The Athletic covering the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be

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Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine until

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Speaker 1: we have a hot new poll question. We have a

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Speaker 1: couple of options. See Paulie sent me a poll question

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Speaker 1: that I think he thinks it's hot, but I'm not sure.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure how the room thinks about it. One

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Speaker 1: was which would you rather tend live the Steelers, Ravens

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Speaker 1: or the Tree Show on NBC. Now. The reason I'm

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Speaker 1: not into it is because I would not want to

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Speaker 1: go to that Tree Show with Mariah Carey. Is that

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Speaker 1: something that anybody would want to do? You're slighting at Edgrew.

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Speaker 1: You're calling it a tree show. It's like an like

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Speaker 1: an arborist in a backyard in Vermont. This is the

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Speaker 1: Rockefeller Center show and thousands of people John Legend and no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to see that in person. No, the

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Speaker 1: ladies do. This is a great place to take the

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Speaker 1: I know, but we're not the ladies and wives loving. No, well,

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Speaker 1: they can watch on TV with me. Yeah, but no,

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Speaker 1: I've been to the tree lighting ceremony before and it's festive.

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Speaker 1: Oh and it's beautiful. But I didn't stay. I stayed

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Speaker 1: for about thirty minutes, and then I went to a

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00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: steakhouse right around the corner, and then that was it.

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Speaker 1: So officially I've been to one. And you know, of course,

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Speaker 1: wanted to see a former girlfriend, Maria Kerry up. I

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Speaker 1: mean a former friend Maria carry up there singing. And

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Speaker 1: I couldn't wait that long. I think she was running

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Speaker 1: a little bit late, so I couldn't I couldn't wait

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Speaker 1: almost sixteen million unique visitors. Biggest months in September of

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. Pat yourself on the back, Mike Florio, well done. Hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm just lad that you know the audience out there

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Speaker 1: that claimed that they're not going to pay any attention

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Speaker 1: to football this year has come around now that the

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Speaker 1: election is over. That's all I'm saying about that, right,

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Speaker 1: thank you. It's good. It's football's back, and we've we've

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Speaker 1: held the season together. Not that I've had anything to

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00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: do with it or you had anything to do with it,

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00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: but the NFL has held the season together this far.

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Speaker 1: Let's see what happens in December. Could Will Fuller sue

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Speaker 1: his doctor, Well, if the facts as he alleges them

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Speaker 1: are true, perhaps, But Dan, look, I'm amazed because I've

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Speaker 1: been covering the NFL on a daily basis for twenty

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Speaker 1: years now. The NFL has never caught a cheater via

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Speaker 1: its peed policy. The NFL has only caught guys who

845
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: unknowingly took a substance that was on the band list

846
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: because it was spiked into something that they bought at GNC,

847
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: or the doctor told them this, or someone told them that.

848
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 1: They have resources available. If they have any questions, you

849
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 1: call the union. They have hotlines, they have a list

850
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 1: of what you can and can't use from a drug standpoint,

851
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 1: a supplement standpoint. Even if he's telling the truth, I

852
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 1: don't know why you would rely upon your doctor when

853
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 1: all you have to do is call your agent or

854
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: call your union, and I just always enter these conversations

855
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 1: assuming that this is another example of someone who has

856
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 1: chosen to not say I cheated and you caught me

857
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: because under the under the version that we get and

858
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 1: that we've gotten for the last twenty years. Other than

859
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Speaker 1: Julie Edelman Julian Edelman, whose response was I don't know

860
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: what happened, every other guy has said he's taken some

861
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: sort of a spike substance or he didn't know, and

862
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: no one has ever come out and said, hey, you

863
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 1: caught me. Yeah, I forgot Edelman. Hey, I don't know

864
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: what happened here, Like I've used that excuse with my

865
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Speaker 1: parents growing up. I don't know what happened here. Yeah,

866
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Speaker 1: Why why is there a dent in the car? I

867
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Speaker 1: don't don't I don't want appen here. I don't know

868
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Speaker 1: what to tell you. That's the ultimate. I don't know

869
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: what to tell you, Yeah, because you have nothing good

870
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: to tell me. Is the NFL doing a good jump

871
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: with COVID. I'm amazed that we've gotten through twelve weeks

872
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: with all games played except one pending tomorrow. But you know, Dan,

873
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,919
Speaker 1: at some point when something goes wrong, the knee jerk

874
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: reaction for the league is to say it's a failure

875
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: of a team or a player or whoever to follow

876
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: the protocols. It's never a bad protocol. And we're getting

877
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 1: closer and closer to the point where the rubber is

878
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: going to meet the road on whether or not the

879
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: protocols are effective. Because as these numbers go up in

880
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 1: the wake of Thanksgiving, and the NFL wisely shut down

881
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: all facilities Monday and Tuesday with limited exceptions because they

882
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: understand players and coaches had people in from out of

883
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 1: town for Thanksgiving. Now, I still can't reconcile that with

884
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: playing games on Sunday and Monday. That's a different issue altogether.

885
00:46:55,320 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 1: But they realize it's getting worse. Fine, at some point, though,

886
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 1: they have to flip the switch on the home market

887
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: bubble at some point. The only way to keep this

888
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 1: thing on track is to make sure everyone is under

889
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: the same roof all the time, twenty four to seven.

890
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 1: No intermingling with people who aren't being tested all the time,

891
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: constant concern for physical distancing and mask wearing and being

892
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 1: careful and prudent. That's what they're gonna hold it together.

893
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 1: Because it feels like it's teetering, and it felt like

894
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,240
Speaker 1: it was teetering. This weekend. There were rumors among teams,

895
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: among executives with teams that the NFL was just going

896
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: to pull the plug on Week twelve and make all

897
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Speaker 1: of Week twelve eighteen. Now, the NFL said there were

898
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 1: no such discussions. But that's just an example of how

899
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: bad it's gotten and there's no reason to think it's

900
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Speaker 1: going to get any better over the next five weeks.

901
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: I just wonder, and I'm not saying that, you know,

902
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: their justice is arbitrary, but you know, with what happened

903
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: in Denver, felt like they were really going to punish

904
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Speaker 1: the Broncos by you guys created this, now you deal

905
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Speaker 1: with this Baltimore. I was told by a league source

906
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 1: last night, John Harball is a hypocrite because he's claiming

907
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: to be a victim. But they created the scenario where

908
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: you know, the Steelers should be the ones really upset,

909
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: not the Ravens. So how do you look at those situations? Well,

910
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 1: going into the season, I thought the NFL was going

911
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: to try dan to balance case by case, situation by situation,

912
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 1: when and if the lack of sufficient healthy offensive lineman

913
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: the lack of sufficient healthy quarterbacks, any position group decimated

914
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 1: by players on the COVID nineteen reserve list, whether that

915
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: would justify postponement of games. When October rolled around, the

916
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Speaker 1: NFL decided, screw it. Our approaches. We got two hundred

917
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: and fifty six boxes to check. We are going to

918
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: check every box and get every game in. And if

919
00:48:56,239 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 1: someone has a competitive disadvantage. You don't have enough offensive line,

920
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,240
Speaker 1: too bad. You don't have enough healthy quarterbacks, too bad,

921
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 1: you don't have enough defensive backs, too bad. You have

922
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 1: to play with what you have. You have to plan

923
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: your practice squad. Accordingly, they got fifty three spots on

924
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Speaker 1: the active roster, sixteen practice squad players, any or all

925
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,479
Speaker 1: of whom can be called up up to ninety minutes

926
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Speaker 1: before kickoff. You have to deal with it, and that

927
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: I've been told over and over again. Is a difference

928
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: between Baltimore and Denver. Baltimore had an uncontained outbreak that

929
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: they were trying to get under control, that the league

930
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: was trying to get under control, and they didn't feel

931
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Speaker 1: that it was safe to bring the team together. They

932
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: didn't feel it was safe to proceed with the game,

933
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Speaker 1: to put guys on a plane, guys on a bus,

934
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Speaker 1: guys in the locker room, guys on the sideline because

935
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 1: they weren't sure that the outbreak had been contained. That's

936
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Speaker 1: why the Ravens got three postponements. And to the extent

937
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: that the Ravens bear blame for this, and clearly they do.

938
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Speaker 1: Their strength and conditioning coach was Typhoid Mary for this outbreak.

939
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: But you know, Dan, last week, the league knew there

940
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Speaker 1: was an outbreak. They let the Ravens gather at their

941
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: facility practice on Monday. They knew there was an outbreak.

942
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Speaker 1: They knew they were positives from Sunday. They knew there

943
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Speaker 1: were positives from Monday. They let the Ravens practice on

944
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Speaker 1: Tuesday until they finally pulled the plug because they wanted

945
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: to get the game in Thursday night. So this isn't

946
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Speaker 1: a situation where only the Ravens are to blame the league.

947
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Speaker 1: Instead of immediately pulling the plug on the Thanksgiving night game,

948
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: which could have potentially salvaged Sunday, they let them practice

949
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 1: Monday and Tuesday because they wanted to get the Thursday

950
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: night game in. So, you know, I think that the

951
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: danger of placing blame on anyone in these instances ignores

952
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 1: the fact that in most of them there's plenty of

953
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: blame to go around. Andrew Brandt had a tweet earlier today,

954
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 1: of course, former front office executive, and he said, if

955
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Speaker 1: we're not going to postpone or cancel a game, given

956
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 1: what happened in Baltimore, can you give me a scenario

957
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: where you think that we would actually have a game

958
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 1: that's forfeited or canceled? Well, forefeit stuff to do? You know,

959
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 1: there's never been a forfeit in the one hundred and

960
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: one year history of the National Football League. And it

961
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 1: also creates a financial can of worms because when they

962
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: crafted the agreements that allowed the twenty twenty season to proceed,

963
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 1: dan nothing was contained in there about what would happen

964
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 1: with player game checks in the event of a forfeit.

965
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Speaker 1: I think the NFL is avoiding that possibility for that

966
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: reason and other reasons. They don't want to go down

967
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: the path of declaring a winner and a loser. Because

968
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: we're in a pandemic. Stuff is going to happen. When

969
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 1: do you start drawing the lines between forfeit and postponement?

970
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 1: And you know, this possibility of Week eighteen you've been

971
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: talking about it. I've been talking about it. We've talked

972
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: about it. I'm sure when I've been on with you

973
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 1: in the past. Yesterday it finally crystallized for me what

974
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:42,240
Speaker 1: the problem is with Week eighteen. If you made Ravens

975
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: Steelers the first game that gets kicked to Week eighteen,

976
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:47,720
Speaker 1: what do you do if the Ravens or the Steelers

977
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: have an issue the rest of the way with any

978
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: of their games. What if the Bills have an outbreak

979
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: next week and the Sunday night game between Pittsburgh and

980
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 1: Buffalo has to get postponed? Which one do you play?

981
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 1: Which one do you not play? What Ravens Steelers was first,

982
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: that's the one that gets played? Well, what if Bill's

983
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: Steelers has more impact on more teams to determine who

984
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: gets to the playoffs and who doesn't. And so I

985
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: think the reason they haven't pulled the ripcord on Week

986
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 1: eighteen is they understand that once you burn that spot

987
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: for two teams, you are operating on a tight rope

988
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: on a windy day with no net. He's Mike Florio,

989
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: pro football talk co host. You can see him every

990
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: morning on Peacock with Chris simms Oblo. You can go

991
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,720
Speaker 1: to his website there because everybody else is the forty

992
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 1: nine ers are without a home. So now they're playing

993
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 1: in Arizona. Like, okay, likely, there's so much of this

994
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 1: where we go. Yeah, okay, that's fine. Niners don't get

995
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: to play two games at home. They're playing in Arizona.

996
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 1: Is that fair? It's not like they're losing a home

997
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,919
Speaker 1: field advantage now, I mean, really, they don't have any

998
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: fans at any of the games at Levi Stadium. When

999
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: the schedule came out in May, dan one of the

1000
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: first things I did was I looked at the schedules

1001
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 1: of the California teams, and I looked other teams regionably

1002
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 1: close by to see if one of these teams couldn't

1003
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 1: play at home, where would there be conflicts, Where would

1004
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 1: they be home games going on at the same time.

1005
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 1: And the first thing that jumped out at me San

1006
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: Francisco Arizona. They never play a game at home on

1007
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: the same day. I think they've always known that Arizona

1008
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: was the alternative for San Francisco if they couldn't play

1009
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: games there, and it finally happened. I'm fascinated by the idea,

1010
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 1: and I think it's moving in this direction. They're gonna

1011
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 1: practice in Arizona. They now have a bubble. The forty

1012
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: nine ers have a bubble. They're gonna have everybody in

1013
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: a hotel in Arizona, away from their families for five weeks.

1014
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 1: I'm still trying to find out what kind of negotiations

1015
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 1: happened with the union, because you're talking about a dramatic

1016
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: change in work conditions for these players. These players are

1017
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 1: now twenty four seven employees. They can't be with their families,

1018
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: they can't go home, they're on a business trip in Definitely,

1019
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: what did they do by way of talking to the

1020
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: union to get this approved? Because Dan, I think collective

1021
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: bargaining is one of the big reasons why we don't

1022
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 1: have thirty two teams in a bubble. Because you're talking

1023
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 1: about a major ask for a player to say, tell

1024
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: your family goodbye, you'll see them in early January. You

1025
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: can't go home, you can't see them. That's not what

1026
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 1: these guys signed up for. You imagine if the Super

1027
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:19,439
Speaker 1: Bowl was in California this year, so it wouldn't be yeah,

1028
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 1: it would be in Arizona. Great to talk to you,

1029
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Speaker 1: Congrats on the success with a website there, Mike, We

1030
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 1: appreciate your time as always. All right, Dan, good being

1031
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,439
Speaker 1: with you as always. Be sure to catch the live

1032
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 1: edition of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am

1033
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: Eastern six am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the

1034
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Speaker 1: iHeart Radio WAP. Michael Boublay is not my thing? Are you?

1035
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 1: Where do you stand on him? I always hear sort

1036
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 1: of Harry Connick Junior doing Sinatra, you know, but it's

1037
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,320
Speaker 1: Michael Boubley who's doing Harry Connick Junior who's doing Sinatra?

1038
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: Does that sound about right? Yes? He's still have all

1039
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: of the like al you cool cats and kittens swinging

1040
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: out there, and you're like, dude, you're twenty three. Yes, Polly,

1041
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: I would kill to be Michael Boublay for one winter season.

1042
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? That guy doesn't come out from

1043
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: basically January first until November first, and then he slays

1044
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,359
Speaker 1: for an eight week stretch. Are you guys? Are nuts?

1045
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: Michael Bloy's got the He's courted the market on this.

1046
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Speaker 1: He's like a thirty one year old guy who looks

1047
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: like X like Frank Sinatra. I know it's okay, but

1048
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 1: you know, it was. It's it sounds like he's doing

1049
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:35,359
Speaker 1: Harry Junior, who's doing Frank Sinatra. Harry Knock Junior. How

1050
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 1: what a run he had? I know, but I'm saying

1051
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 1: he's like three or four people, maybe even more than

1052
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 1: that removed. That's fair. But he's he's doing his impression

1053
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Speaker 1: of somebody who's doing his impression, somebody who's doing his

1054
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: impression of Frank Sinatra, something like that. Yes, it's this

1055
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: whole thing about how excited Paul he is for the

1056
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:54,760
Speaker 1: tree lady? Are you gonna have like a big party?

1057
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 1: Is this like your thing? I don't even know a

1058
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 1: Michael Boublay song. Do you guys know the title of

1059
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:05,280
Speaker 1: a Michael Boubley song? Don't just covers of other people's songs?

1060
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 1: I think? Is it? I don't know, I don't know.

1061
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 1: I remember I'd go into Starbucks, remember when Starbucks would

1062
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: sell music, and it felt like Michael Boublet was always

1063
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Speaker 1: on whenever I went in there.