WEBVTT - My Baby Expert - Dr. Harvey Karp

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<v Speaker 1>You practiced for twenty five years in Santa Monica, the

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<v Speaker 1>mecca of pretentious, all organic vegan assholes. I can't imagine

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<v Speaker 1>what they must have been like, uh with their children.

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<v Speaker 2>I love my cinematical parents. I'm not going there. Look

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<v Speaker 2>at me.

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<v Speaker 3>Pash Shaw.

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<v Speaker 2>Tosh shot Tosh Show Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello everyone, it's me Daniel Tosh and welcome to another

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<v Speaker 1>episode of Toss Show.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been redeemed. I've been redeemed by the Blood of

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<v Speaker 2>the Lamb.

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<v Speaker 4>By the blood of the Lamb.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been redeemed. I've been redeemed by the blood of

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<v Speaker 2>the Lamb. You if you don't know this song, you're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to go to heaven. I mean I want

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<v Speaker 2>to go to heaven. Let's try it again.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I really want to go.

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<v Speaker 2>You get one chance for the Blood of the Lamb

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<v Speaker 2>to redeem you. Alright. Hey, I'm not excited because I

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<v Speaker 2>know what we're doing.

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<v Speaker 4>Feedback.

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<v Speaker 2>We're getting some feed back from the viewers.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do it.

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<v Speaker 4>Grocery Store Joe's episode eat It Back of Dick's Tosh

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<v Speaker 4>Toronto Rules.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll pass on your local cuisine a bag of Dicks.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's Toronto for you. What are you guys in

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<v Speaker 1>the mood for today? Well, hopefully you got one of

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<v Speaker 1>those piping hot bag of dicks for me.

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<v Speaker 4>Hello, mister Tosh, I'm a producer at Warner Brothers and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm interested in buying the rights to this week's bedtime story.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it will fit nicely into our revamp. DCEU,

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<v Speaker 4>please get in touch if you were interested.

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<v Speaker 1>Not interested, I appreciate the offer, but you're a little late.

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<v Speaker 1>Marvel has already locked my son up.

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<v Speaker 4>The Italian restaurant near my house is called Goomba's, but

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<v Speaker 4>it's owned by Mexicans.

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<v Speaker 2>How's their pizzadillas? A bitther delicious?

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<v Speaker 4>Andy's episode? Honestly, I can't believe anybody pays the Sea

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<v Speaker 4>comedians when there's so much music to see.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, first of all, dip shit. You don't see music,

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<v Speaker 1>you listen to it unless you're deaf. Then you feel it.

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<v Speaker 4>We got to look back and forth here from Andy's episode.

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<v Speaker 4>I love the real numbers, and then there's a response

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<v Speaker 4>he was pulling in really good money in nineteen ninety eight.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what he thinks that proves four hundred

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<v Speaker 4>dollars for like five days. Nominally ten hours of work,

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<v Speaker 4>even if he was working eight hours a day is

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of money for ninety eight.

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<v Speaker 2>Fuck you just just fuck you. You don't.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, when I was reading my calendar from

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety eight, that wasn't the day I started comedy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd been doing comedy for five years. That was just

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<v Speaker 1>happened to be a calendar that I had found and

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<v Speaker 1>making five hundred dollars a week. Yeah, that's great if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a person that has no real dreams. But I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't live in whatever random city I was in in Ohio.

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<v Speaker 1>I was commuting four hundred miles every day to some

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<v Speaker 1>random city to do a show. I'm I'm just just

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<v Speaker 1>if you would have gotten my calendar, which doesn't exist

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<v Speaker 1>from nineteen ninety five or ninety six, where every show

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<v Speaker 1>I did was me just showing up to a comedy

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<v Speaker 1>club begging to be put on for free and them

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<v Speaker 1>saying no, and me driving home that night.

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<v Speaker 2>That was That was the career for years.

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<v Speaker 1>Then eventually I got to a point where I was

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<v Speaker 1>making the four hundred and the five hundred dollars a

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<v Speaker 1>week while traveling in a car back and forth across

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<v Speaker 1>the country every other day.

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<v Speaker 2>See here, I'm still angry about that one. Well, let's

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<v Speaker 2>get that one. That one really burns me. Let's move

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<v Speaker 2>it on, moving on, I worked. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>that proves.

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<v Speaker 1>Four hundred dollars back in ninety yeah, I remember back

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen ninety eight, when if you had four hundred

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<v Speaker 1>dollars you were Everybody's like, look, how rich that guy is.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got four hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean the people would be like, well, it's

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety eight, you got four hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Woo, all right, go on, what's the next one?

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<v Speaker 4>Chandler Parsons episode. Don't worry, Parsons, Memphis still hates you too.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what Chandler should do to make things right

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<v Speaker 1>in Memphis. I don't know if you've heard, but Graceland

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<v Speaker 1>has been in the news lately where it's potentially being.

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<v Speaker 2>Sold in foreclosure.

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<v Speaker 1>Chandler should swoop in right now for the city of

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<v Speaker 1>Memphis and buy Graceland. Then he should demolish it everything

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<v Speaker 1>except for the death toilet, leave the toilet there, then

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<v Speaker 1>open up a Kansas City barbecue spot there. Because Kansas

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<v Speaker 1>City Barbecue is so much better than Memphis Barbecue. And

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<v Speaker 1>you go there, you get some cac barbecue, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you get to sit on the throne. That's what That's

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<v Speaker 1>what Chandler should do. I think they would all. I

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<v Speaker 1>think everything would be forgiven at that point.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually, a lot of comments about you having celebrities on,

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of people have been calling you out because

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<v Speaker 4>you said you were never going to have celebrities on,

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<v Speaker 4>and then you had Michelle Wee, Luke McFarlane, grocery store,

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<v Speaker 4>Joe Chandler, Parsons.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's enough. First of all, you can't believe the

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<v Speaker 1>thing I say. I'm a huge liar. I also said

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<v Speaker 1>I would never do a podcast, But here we are.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me be clear. I feel like I have to

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<v Speaker 1>say this again. I don't care what my fans want

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<v Speaker 1>this show to be. If you think, and I'm sorry Chandler,

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<v Speaker 1>you're about to catch some strays right now. If you

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<v Speaker 1>think Chandler, a role player, a former role player in

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA, is a celebrity, then you're right. We're never

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<v Speaker 1>going to see eye to eye on anything. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>no offense. He was never even an All Star. He

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<v Speaker 1>was like a second team All rookie. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was the biggest honor that he got in the NBA.

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<v Speaker 1>I could be wrong. He's gonna give me shit. But

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<v Speaker 1>whatever what I said the show was, or I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know what I said, doesn't matter what I said.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's what the show is.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to interview people that I want to interview

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<v Speaker 1>if I find them interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why they're going to be sitting there.

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<v Speaker 1>What I didn't want to do was do a podcast

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<v Speaker 1>like other comedians where they're just talking about stand up

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<v Speaker 1>comedy back and forth to each other. And the thing

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<v Speaker 1>about celebrities was that I didn't want to have a

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<v Speaker 1>forced conversation with somebody that was only here to promote

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<v Speaker 1>their new project. So that the guideline, I'll have Robert

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<v Speaker 1>de Niro on the show if he wants to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about having children in his seventies, Okay, that's interesting, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't care about someone's movie that they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're contractually obligated to plug.

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<v Speaker 2>That's That's where I'm drawing the line. You hear me?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that is that crystal clear? Do we understand? Now?

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<v Speaker 2>Can we stop with the dumb comment you were gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have celebrities on, and then you had the helpful Honda

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<v Speaker 2>guy on.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry that you're such a fucking boring person that

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<v Speaker 1>lives in some awful place where you think anybody that's

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<v Speaker 1>been on TV for one second is now a celebrity.

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<v Speaker 2>God damn it.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to get all worked up. Knock it off.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna have whoever I want in that chair. And

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<v Speaker 1>this week is no exception because it's brought to my

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<v Speaker 1>attention that a lot of my fans have been getting

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<v Speaker 1>abortions because they don't know where their baby should sleep. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta fix that, So we're having another doctor on

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<v Speaker 1>this show. Yeah, this podcast is borderline educational.

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<v Speaker 3>Enjoy Pasha, my guest today, believes that all babies should

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<v Speaker 3>sleep in straight jackets, harnessed to a gyrating bed, blasting

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<v Speaker 3>white noise.

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<v Speaker 1>Please welcome world renowned pediatrician, author and inventor of the

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<v Speaker 1>snow doctor, Harvey Karp.

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<v Speaker 2>How's that for an intro? I think that was moombastic, fantastic, fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>I meant to say fantastic. Yeah, it was a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of that first question, Yes, do you believe in

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<v Speaker 2>ghost Do I believe in ghosts? You know I believe

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<v Speaker 2>in higher powers though, all right, but you don't believe

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<v Speaker 2>in ghosts.

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, by the way, you went to Albert Einstein College

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<v Speaker 1>of Medicine. That's made up right? Where is that?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know where it college is. It's in

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<v Speaker 2>the Bronx, is it? Okay? You unable to get into

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<v Speaker 2>the halls of medicine. It's you know, as it turns out,

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<v Speaker 2>it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what I tell you that half my questions are

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<v Speaker 1>just dumb.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, No, but listen, here's the thing. There's there's science

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<v Speaker 2>and there's humanity, and medicine really weaves those two together.

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<v Speaker 2>And what's great about Einstein is that it really pays

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<v Speaker 2>attention to the humanity. Did you excel in school? I

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<v Speaker 2>was good. I mean I was like, you're not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be honest now. It wasn't like the smartest in the class.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I did graduate early. Like I was a

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen year old when I graduated high school. Okay, see

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<v Speaker 2>already that's it. I mean, although, but very immature. Uh huh.

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<v Speaker 1>You practiced for twenty five years in Santa Monica, the

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<v Speaker 1>mecca of pretentious all organic vegan assholes whose bodies are

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<v Speaker 1>sacred temples. I can't imagine what they must have been

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<v Speaker 1>like with their children.

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<v Speaker 2>I love my cinematical parents. I'm not going there killed

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<v Speaker 2>they're the Do you know that? Now they have acupuncturists

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<v Speaker 2>and chiropractors in Omaha, Nebraska and Vegan, you know, guides

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<v Speaker 2>and things like that. This is all across the country.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I'm fine with all. I'm fine with Vegan. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>fine with There's just something another.

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<v Speaker 2>Level, you know, one of the things. But this is

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<v Speaker 2>one of the things that parents are raising children. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>they never even touched a child in their lives. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>smart people, they're educated. Maybe we're the most educated people

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<v Speaker 2>in history, but in many ways parents are the least

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<v Speaker 2>experienced in taking care of kids. So people are going

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<v Speaker 2>on the internet and just trying to learn as best

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<v Speaker 2>they can, and they're you know, they're influenced by different people,

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<v Speaker 2>and so sometimes these these you know, kind of overly

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<v Speaker 2>concerned approach about children comes from you know, people just

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<v Speaker 2>not having experience. Now you're a huge anti vaxxer, right, No,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't give I give vaccines to all anties. Is

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<v Speaker 2>that what you mean?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't hesitate if they tell me the kid needs

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<v Speaker 1>it on Mike Stickham, let's go.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we don't, there's no debate. Listen, Listen. I'm old

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<v Speaker 2>enough that I've seen the effects of children who didn't

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<v Speaker 2>get vaccinated. Now we have vaccines against diseases, even chicken pox.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen kids who lost their legs because they got

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<v Speaker 2>severe infections after chicken pox, children who have had brain

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<v Speaker 2>dissolving because they got measles. These are things that are

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<v Speaker 2>completely preventable now. And we live in Listen. If you

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<v Speaker 2>live on a farm by yourself and your neighbors never

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<v Speaker 2>come over, you can do whatever you want. But when

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<v Speaker 2>you're living in a culture where you're exposed to other people,

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<v Speaker 2>you have a responsibility. It's not just me, me, me,

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<v Speaker 2>it is us. We've got to protect each other. In

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<v Speaker 2>your opinion, do you single handedly bring back us swaddling? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I would say so.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, are you flattered in any way because

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<v Speaker 1>all of us use our phones when we have a child,

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<v Speaker 1>and like, what does this mean? And we do our

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<v Speaker 1>own research, but that so many times the answer to

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<v Speaker 1>the question is quoted from you. Is that a flattering

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<v Speaker 1>to you?

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it is like the amount of baby searches

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<v Speaker 1>that you do where you're the answer that everyone agrees

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<v Speaker 1>is that ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's so odd. Here's the ridiculous thing. We've

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<v Speaker 2>been around babies for thousands of years. How could anyone

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<v Speaker 2>figure out something new about babies. You know, you can

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<v Speaker 2>downplay that all you want, but that's impressive. The world

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<v Speaker 2>is googling things.

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<v Speaker 1>You're the answer That'll bring me back real quickly to

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<v Speaker 1>a thing that you once said about why you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of chose to focus on babies was because focusing on

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<v Speaker 1>older people, cancer and all of that stuff at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of life is I mean, I'm paraphrase a little

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<v Speaker 1>more depressing.

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<v Speaker 2>Then the kids get better. For the most part. That's

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<v Speaker 2>very much my experience. And the other part of it

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<v Speaker 2>is that it's very hard to be a doctor and

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<v Speaker 2>be respectful to older people. And what I mean by

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<v Speaker 2>that is that when you, as a doctor take a history,

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<v Speaker 2>you're asking, you know, tell me about this pain, tell

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<v Speaker 2>me about your life, tell me about your work. You

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<v Speaker 2>have to really learn a lot about people. If you're

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<v Speaker 2>really going to be a good doctor, you have to

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<v Speaker 2>understand their life, not just my toe hurts, and you're

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<v Speaker 2>focusing on that and I found that it was really

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<v Speaker 2>hard because when you have another patient and then another

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<v Speaker 2>one and they're stacking up and you got to see them.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't really listen to people. You just don't have

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<v Speaker 2>the time, and so that was really hard. And babies,

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<v Speaker 2>they just don't. They have nothing to say. Just shocking through.

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<v Speaker 2>The cutest race of babies. Oh my gosh. You know what,

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<v Speaker 2>it's really the mix. That's not just taking a political answer,

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<v Speaker 2>but you see children who are you know, Anglo and Asian.

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<v Speaker 1>Or you're talking about mixing races. That creates the beauty

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<v Speaker 1>it does. Sometimes at Backfars, I've seen a few mixed

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<v Speaker 1>race babies. I'm like, Eh, that one didn't work, and

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<v Speaker 1>I feel bad for the parents.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know nothing, two hundred percent. But the fact

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<v Speaker 2>of the matter is that the melting pod is really

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<v Speaker 2>it's really a great thing because you're kind of you

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<v Speaker 2>mush all the things together and more you'll get the

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<v Speaker 2>things you like than things you don't like.

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<v Speaker 1>Babies in general, as a parent, you look at your

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<v Speaker 1>child and you're like, oh my god, it's so beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>And then time goes by and you look back and

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<v Speaker 1>you go, oh my goodness, what a what a monster

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<v Speaker 1>that came out of us.

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<v Speaker 2>It was. It was usually people says, that's the opposite thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, sometimes the nose is smushed and the

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<v Speaker 2>head is big or whatever. But you know, there are

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<v Speaker 2>studies that showed that we're attracted to beings that have

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<v Speaker 2>the big forehead and big eyes and a small chin. Huh.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a cuteness factor that makes you go, oh, that's adorable.

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<v Speaker 2>We're set up biologically to see babies as being cute,

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<v Speaker 2>and seeing baby animals as being cute because of their

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<v Speaker 2>big eyes and big foreheads and things like. Do animals

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<v Speaker 2>do this as well?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have any idea do animals look at other

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<v Speaker 1>animals in their same species and go, oh, you're an

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<v Speaker 1>attractive animal versus an ugly animal. I always want to

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<v Speaker 1>because the reality is humans all look alike. It's so

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<v Speaker 1>funny how such subtle things make one person beautiful and

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<v Speaker 1>another person ugly, because you're never supposed to say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>all blank look alike. That's a you know, certainly a

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<v Speaker 1>race of people that's not considered a very.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, but that's not right. I mean, maybe it is

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't know how to look at somebody, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>if you look at the specifics of a face, or

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<v Speaker 2>you look at the goshalt and oh the face is

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<v Speaker 2>white and the nose is big or small, and he

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<v Speaker 2>looks like those people you know. But I think when

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<v Speaker 2>you get to know a race and you understand the

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<v Speaker 2>subtleties of it, like can you tell the difference between

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<v Speaker 2>someone who's Korean or Japanese? Absolutely not, yeah, so I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>but but someone who's Korean Ken, right, so I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Question is like, do you think pelicans are going look

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<v Speaker 1>at that fucking ugly Pelican. I'm sure they are, is

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm But to me, all pelicans look alike.

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<v Speaker 2>And I bet if you I bet if you ask

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<v Speaker 2>everybody in your audience, they would pretty much agree with you.

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<v Speaker 2>My audience is, for the most part, idiots.

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<v Speaker 1>I find it fascinating that you're here because really the

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<v Speaker 1>reason that you came into our lives, are on our

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<v Speaker 1>radar was because your wife backed in to my producer's

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<v Speaker 1>car over there.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that true? That is true, But it was an accident.

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<v Speaker 2>There was an accident. She wasn't trying to get me

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<v Speaker 2>on the show. As much as we were excited when

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<v Speaker 2>we heard about it.

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<v Speaker 1>That is so funny to me. I was like, w

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<v Speaker 1>how do you know this guy? And he's like I

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<v Speaker 1>was just like I was confusing. He goes, nah, his

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<v Speaker 1>wife bumped into my car and we just started talking

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh my goodness, how's your wife doing?

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<v Speaker 2>She actually just twisted. We were five hours in the

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<v Speaker 2>hospital a couple of days ago because she twisted her

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<v Speaker 2>ankle hiking. But thank you for us five hours. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I wasted an angle. You don't have any poll at

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<v Speaker 2>a hospital, are you kidding me? It would have been

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen hours. It was five hours. Was really great. But

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<v Speaker 2>now you're making me feel bad like I'm insignificant.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I feel like you could have opened something. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>my mom was a nurse for sixty years. If I

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<v Speaker 1>ever needed stitches, boy, she just marched me right in

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<v Speaker 1>m It was always I always felt so cool.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was going with my mom. Uh huh. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And let me tell you another thing.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people might be like they always asking, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>why are you having this person? I want you to

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<v Speaker 1>know the reason that you're on is because I find

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<v Speaker 1>you fascinating. You invent this new and for those that

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<v Speaker 1>don't know's it's a very high end bassinette. It vibrates,

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<v Speaker 1>it shakes, it has white noise. Basically helps your child

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<v Speaker 1>sleep in a safe manner.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct. Okay, And it's it's pricey and blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 1>There's always correct incorrect. Well, there's at some point you

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<v Speaker 1>can get it secondhand.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a work rented for five dollars a day. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean it's cheaper than a five dollars Starbucks. Yeah, five

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<v Speaker 2>dollars a day. I don't drink star Eggs, okay, blue bottle.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't drink coffee. Okay. Do you know why I

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<v Speaker 2>don't drink coffee? No, I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Most people drink coffee because they need to be awake,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And I do when I'm sleepy, I take

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<v Speaker 1>a nap and.

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<v Speaker 2>To get energized. What do you need to do?

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<v Speaker 1>No, just open your eyes? Well sure, I'm okay. I've

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<v Speaker 1>just never people.

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<v Speaker 2>Drink coffee for the taste too. But here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter that when you when you have a

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<v Speaker 2>baby and you're exhausted a lot of people are buying

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<v Speaker 2>coffee because they got to keep their eyes open, they

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<v Speaker 2>got to go to work. They don't want to get

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<v Speaker 2>in a car accident, understood, And that's why.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that I was extremely fortunate because I had

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<v Speaker 1>children that slept and I was in a position where

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<v Speaker 1>I could make work work around my schedule. And what

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<v Speaker 1>I did when my baby slept, I slept like that

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<v Speaker 1>was just what I did.

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<v Speaker 2>It's great if you can do that. But here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>S New isn't just about sleeping more. SNeW is about

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<v Speaker 2>keeping a baby safe because prevents them rolling over to

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<v Speaker 2>the only bed that's got this FDA authorization that keeps

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<v Speaker 2>them on the back. You know how many kids, just

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<v Speaker 2>healthy kids die in the United four thirty four hundred

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<v Speaker 2>so close? I mean, yeah, yeah, I mean, who's what's

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<v Speaker 2>six hundred babies? Especially if they look like Pelicans are.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're a Pelican baby, I'm gonna being loved. So

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<v Speaker 2>here's here's the thing. It's it's really one of these

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<v Speaker 2>tragedies in raising children in the United States. That's a

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<v Speaker 2>number in the United States. It'll be as has any

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<v Speaker 2>baby died in US New Yes? Oh, how many? There

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<v Speaker 2>are five that we know of?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so that how many people have died in Tesla? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just out of curious No, But here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's dramatically less than one would expect in

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<v Speaker 2>a regular bed. So the point being that, and we're

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<v Speaker 2>not claiming that we prevent SIDS, we don't have the

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<v Speaker 2>privilege of doing that yet from the FDA. But we

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<v Speaker 2>do claim that we keep babies on the back, which

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<v Speaker 2>everybody knows is the number one way to keep baby safe.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you know that my grandfather died of SIDS? No,

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<v Speaker 2>the oldest case your grandfather. Oh my gosh. Can I

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<v Speaker 2>get into why I don't have a snow? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>So I had my first child five years ago and

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<v Speaker 1>a coworker mine had a snow and brought it to

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<v Speaker 1>work for me, was going to give it to me

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<v Speaker 1>for free. His child had grown past that age. And

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<v Speaker 1>then the show runner on that show, Charlie, he shamed me.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like he's like, oh, you don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>hold your baby, blah blah blah, Like why don't you

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<v Speaker 1>just embrace it? So then I was like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not above doing it the hard way or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, and then we had our child and

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<v Speaker 1>sure enough, kid was a sleeper. Didn't really have much issue.

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<v Speaker 1>If there was ever a scenario where it was like

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<v Speaker 1>we need to try something different, I would have waited

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<v Speaker 1>two seconds, and I would have purchased it.

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<v Speaker 2>At full cost rented it. I wouldn't have even rented it.

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<v Speaker 2>But did you have help? Did you have help in

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<v Speaker 2>the house? No, No, just you guys. Yeah, huh. But

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<v Speaker 2>you got to be able to be home during the

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<v Speaker 2>day and whatnot. You don't have to go out to work.

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<v Speaker 2>I did.

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<v Speaker 1>I would work with it, but I wasn't. Yes, my

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<v Speaker 1>schedule was very accommodating. So there a couple of different

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<v Speaker 1>things that we're trying to do with SNOW. One is

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<v Speaker 1>to help babies sleep longer.

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<v Speaker 2>We've proven that we've measured six hundred million hours of sleep,

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<v Speaker 2>and we showed that babies automatically sleep an extra hour.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's a curious thing. By three months of age,

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<v Speaker 2>a normal three month old will give you a five

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<v Speaker 2>hour stretch of unbroken sleep. That's pretty pretty good, pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much average for a three month old. In SNOW, it's

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<v Speaker 2>six and a half almost seven hours of unbroken sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>In other words, we're maturing the brain two to three

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<v Speaker 2>months earlier than we ever thought was possible. And what

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<v Speaker 2>we're studying now is, well, if you can mature the

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<v Speaker 2>brain to sleep longer, are there other ways that you

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<v Speaker 2>can mature the brain as well. So I want to

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<v Speaker 2>give you an example of that. Garoo care. We're off

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<v Speaker 2>of Pelicans now and kangaroo care. Have you ever heard

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<v Speaker 2>of that? Oh, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing it has to do with the mother holding

0:21:06.720 --> 0:21:09.040
<v Speaker 1>them in the pouch. Yeah, exactly right. But instead of

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<v Speaker 1>a pouch, we kind of bind them against the chest.

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<v Speaker 1>And we do this with little premature babies, like a

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<v Speaker 1>one pound baby, and you put them on the mother

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<v Speaker 1>so she the baby feels the breathing and smells the

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<v Speaker 1>mother and feels the movement.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the day, is kept warm. And what has been

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<v Speaker 2>done now is that we've been doing that for thirty

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<v Speaker 2>years and we measure the brain development of children fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>years later. And what do we see. We see that

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<v Speaker 2>premature babies have difficulties with some of their brain development.

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<v Speaker 2>The earlier you are, you know, the more challenges you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to have. Kangaroo care improves that and almost all

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<v Speaker 2>the way to being a regular, normal term baby. And

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<v Speaker 2>so what does that mean. It means that holding and

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<v Speaker 2>rocking and closeness, those are things that are nurturing for

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<v Speaker 2>a baby's brain. It's not just milk. You want to

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<v Speaker 2>give them closeness and so all day long. And I

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<v Speaker 2>bet you did that, right, did you hold your baby

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<v Speaker 2>and carry your baby and give that type of skin

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<v Speaker 2>to skin? But you do that for twelve fins of

0:22:02.960 --> 0:22:05.560
<v Speaker 2>skin feels a little awkward. I'll be honest with you.

0:22:05.560 --> 0:22:07.600
<v Speaker 2>You're always like, am I really doing this? Am I

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<v Speaker 2>taking off my shirt? So? But anyway, anyway, it's a

0:22:11.080 --> 0:22:13.439
<v Speaker 2>super cool thing to do. But anyway, here's the point.

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<v Speaker 2>The point is that if you feed a baby but

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<v Speaker 2>you never hold them and carry them, their brains are

0:22:19.800 --> 0:22:21.840
<v Speaker 2>not going to develop ugly. If you do it one

0:22:21.880 --> 0:22:24.080
<v Speaker 2>hour day, that's better. Two hours better than one. Four

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<v Speaker 2>hours is better than two. So what do we do

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<v Speaker 2>twelve hours at night? We have babies in kind of

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<v Speaker 2>sensory deprivation. They're kind of in dark, still silence. If

0:22:34.040 --> 0:22:36.080
<v Speaker 2>you ask a thousand babies, you know you want to

0:22:36.119 --> 0:22:38.639
<v Speaker 2>be twelve hours by yourself in the dark, or held

0:22:38.640 --> 0:22:39.600
<v Speaker 2>and rocked and shushed.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, But that's the argument that I mean, listen, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of third world countries where everyone sleeps with

0:22:44.320 --> 0:22:48.160
<v Speaker 1>their baby, and that would give you what you're asking for,

0:22:48.400 --> 0:22:50.720
<v Speaker 1>But then you have the problem of rolling over and

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<v Speaker 1>killing them.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, that's right. You So, how can you give

0:22:53.960 --> 0:22:57.359
<v Speaker 2>the baby the nurturing that they're going to do the

0:22:57.400 --> 0:22:59.639
<v Speaker 2>best with but keep them safe as well. Because we

0:22:59.680 --> 0:23:02.480
<v Speaker 2>start it's new. Originally was not even about sleep. It

0:23:02.520 --> 0:23:04.119
<v Speaker 2>was about how do we keep babies safe flow in

0:23:04.119 --> 0:23:07.320
<v Speaker 2>the back. Unfortunately, I've had the experience of working with

0:23:07.320 --> 0:23:11.439
<v Speaker 2>families who've lost their babies. You never recover, You just

0:23:11.600 --> 0:23:15.639
<v Speaker 2>never recover. It is such a horrible, horrible experience. So

0:23:16.200 --> 0:23:19.240
<v Speaker 2>we're really super excited about keeping babies safer. Yet we

0:23:19.280 --> 0:23:22.639
<v Speaker 2>want to improve sleep at night, but also improve it

0:23:22.720 --> 0:23:24.840
<v Speaker 2>during the day because during the day, when you're cooking

0:23:24.840 --> 0:23:28.000
<v Speaker 2>dinner or taking a shower, most people don't have help

0:23:28.000 --> 0:23:30.359
<v Speaker 2>in the house. But it used to be that everyone

0:23:30.400 --> 0:23:32.600
<v Speaker 2>had five nannies, right when you had your grandmother and

0:23:32.640 --> 0:23:35.320
<v Speaker 2>your aunt and your older sister live in next door.

0:23:35.480 --> 0:23:38.360
<v Speaker 2>I know, but I don't like that either. I well,

0:23:38.400 --> 0:23:40.879
<v Speaker 2>here's whenever, like my wife.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll have the discussion and we're she'll bring up some

0:23:43.840 --> 0:23:47.159
<v Speaker 1>other country where you know, when a mother has a

0:23:47.200 --> 0:23:50.880
<v Speaker 1>baby in this country for six years, the whole village

0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:55.119
<v Speaker 1>just rubs her feet. I'm like, okay, there's some trade

0:23:55.119 --> 0:23:57.840
<v Speaker 1>offs to our country. We're not all awful.

0:23:57.960 --> 0:24:00.119
<v Speaker 2>We got some We have some great things here that

0:24:00.160 --> 0:24:02.480
<v Speaker 2>they don't have there. So yeah, of course, of course,

0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:05.040
<v Speaker 2>But I mean you're we have doctors like you. But

0:24:05.160 --> 0:24:06.800
<v Speaker 2>you want to do it the tough. You want to

0:24:07.000 --> 0:24:09.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, trial by fire. You want to show that

0:24:09.400 --> 0:24:11.439
<v Speaker 2>you earned your stripes, and you want I did it

0:24:11.520 --> 0:24:14.240
<v Speaker 2>the hard way, and I can tell everybody else. So

0:24:14.400 --> 0:24:17.359
<v Speaker 2>what the guy who goes later on and says you

0:24:17.400 --> 0:24:19.399
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't be do you be just like the shower you

0:24:19.400 --> 0:24:21.880
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't be doing that. I won't be like Charlie. Charlotte'm

0:24:21.880 --> 0:24:22.280
<v Speaker 2>not gonna be like.

0:24:22.520 --> 0:24:24.920
<v Speaker 1>I encourage people to get it, and I'm all for

0:24:25.560 --> 0:24:27.920
<v Speaker 1>help and family and community raising the kid.

0:24:28.440 --> 0:24:28.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't.

0:24:28.800 --> 0:24:30.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't love a lot of people in my house.

0:24:31.440 --> 0:24:35.040
<v Speaker 1>That's my big objection to Nanni's and that thing. Now,

0:24:35.080 --> 0:24:39.520
<v Speaker 1>where are you at snow or a night nurse?

0:24:40.040 --> 0:24:41.919
<v Speaker 2>It's not an either or. You can use a night

0:24:42.000 --> 0:24:44.360
<v Speaker 2>nurse and a snow because the night well then what's

0:24:44.400 --> 0:24:47.800
<v Speaker 2>that night nurse doing? Changing diapers, feeding, kind of bringing

0:24:47.800 --> 0:24:49.720
<v Speaker 2>the baby to you to nurse? I mean, I'm not

0:24:49.840 --> 0:24:53.000
<v Speaker 2>advocating it, mind you, but it's good to have help. Listen,

0:24:53.040 --> 0:24:55.399
<v Speaker 2>do you know what postpartum depression is, of course, Okay,

0:24:55.440 --> 0:24:57.440
<v Speaker 2>do you know how many women get postpartum depressions?

0:24:57.440 --> 0:25:00.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, thirty percent is my guests, not a bad guess.

0:25:00.920 --> 0:25:03.920
<v Speaker 2>So about twenty percent in the general population get depression,

0:25:04.280 --> 0:25:08.520
<v Speaker 2>end or anxiety, But in the higher risk populations, inner

0:25:08.520 --> 0:25:10.879
<v Speaker 2>city folks, single parents, things like that, it's more like

0:25:10.920 --> 0:25:13.840
<v Speaker 2>thirty percent. So you're on target there, thirty percent, twenty

0:25:13.840 --> 0:25:17.359
<v Speaker 2>to thirty percent of all normal mothers get clinical depression.

0:25:17.640 --> 0:25:18.960
<v Speaker 2>That's like ridiculous.

0:25:19.040 --> 0:25:21.200
<v Speaker 1>Now what percentage of that do you associate to them

0:25:21.200 --> 0:25:22.600
<v Speaker 1>not getting a proper night sleep?

0:25:22.840 --> 0:25:24.840
<v Speaker 2>A lot of it. So here's here's a bunch of

0:25:24.880 --> 0:25:29.720
<v Speaker 2>things that lead to postpartum depression. Exhaustion, crying babies that

0:25:29.760 --> 0:25:32.320
<v Speaker 2>you can't come fear that in the middle of the night,

0:25:32.320 --> 0:25:34.360
<v Speaker 2>your baby's going to roll to danger, and so you're

0:25:34.600 --> 0:25:37.560
<v Speaker 2>looking and looking and checking your baby, feeling like there's

0:25:37.600 --> 0:25:41.040
<v Speaker 2>nobody there to help you, and feeling kind of incompetent,

0:25:41.119 --> 0:25:43.480
<v Speaker 2>like nobody told me how hard this was going to be.

0:25:43.640 --> 0:25:45.640
<v Speaker 2>I had no idea. I wasn't ready for this. I'm

0:25:45.640 --> 0:25:47.639
<v Speaker 2>just saying, yeah, I know, that's not ready for it.

0:25:47.720 --> 0:25:49.920
<v Speaker 2>We all know it's hard. We all know it's hard,

0:25:49.960 --> 0:25:53.600
<v Speaker 2>but you know something, they use crying babies and and

0:25:53.720 --> 0:25:57.800
<v Speaker 2>exhaustion to train navy seals to injure torture, So it

0:25:57.840 --> 0:26:00.560
<v Speaker 2>isn't just like mildly hard. If you're going after night

0:26:00.560 --> 0:26:03.639
<v Speaker 2>with sleep deprivation, it becomes like torture. My point is

0:26:03.680 --> 0:26:06.760
<v Speaker 2>that we developed snow to take care of all of

0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:10.400
<v Speaker 2>those five things that lead to postpartum depression. So our goal,

0:26:10.440 --> 0:26:12.760
<v Speaker 2>besides helping the babies and keeping them healthy and keeping

0:26:12.800 --> 0:26:15.640
<v Speaker 2>them safe and helping to nurture their brains and preventing

0:26:15.680 --> 0:26:17.600
<v Speaker 2>them from rolling to their death, is how can we

0:26:17.640 --> 0:26:20.919
<v Speaker 2>support mothers and fathers to be healthy, to kind of

0:26:21.160 --> 0:26:24.159
<v Speaker 2>be feeling successful instead of overwhelmed, and be able to

0:26:24.160 --> 0:26:26.200
<v Speaker 2>go to their job every day so they can earn

0:26:26.200 --> 0:26:27.760
<v Speaker 2>a living and pay for their family.

0:26:27.960 --> 0:26:30.359
<v Speaker 1>You believe in the fourth trimester, yes, I do. What

0:26:30.400 --> 0:26:37.359
<v Speaker 1>about abortions during the fourth trimester? No, that was just

0:26:38.800 --> 0:26:42.880
<v Speaker 1>sorry about that. You believe in fourth trimester?

0:26:42.960 --> 0:26:43.040
<v Speaker 4>That?

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:45.959
<v Speaker 2>What is? That's just but you know, a horse can

0:26:46.040 --> 0:26:47.879
<v Speaker 2>run the first day of life. They have to be

0:26:47.920 --> 0:26:49.920
<v Speaker 2>able to run to survive. If they don't can't run,

0:26:49.920 --> 0:26:54.040
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna get eaten or something. A baby horse they

0:26:54.080 --> 0:26:56.280
<v Speaker 2>eat horses if you don't if they don't run, yes,

0:26:56.400 --> 0:26:57.520
<v Speaker 2>of course serious.

0:26:57.320 --> 0:27:00.439
<v Speaker 1>The wolves, the coyotes, time on the wild. Yeah, I

0:27:00.520 --> 0:27:01.480
<v Speaker 1>just start you're talking about like that.

0:27:03.200 --> 0:27:05.480
<v Speaker 2>Random. I guess it's a long time. That's why you

0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:10.200
<v Speaker 2>went there. But you know, the babies are very helpless

0:27:10.240 --> 0:27:12.720
<v Speaker 2>when they're born. They can't even smile yet, they can't

0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:15.479
<v Speaker 2>even follow you across the room. So they're the only

0:27:15.560 --> 0:27:17.360
<v Speaker 2>reason we have to kick them out is because their

0:27:17.400 --> 0:27:20.960
<v Speaker 2>heads are so big, and so we got it. We

0:27:21.080 --> 0:27:23.520
<v Speaker 2>have to deliver them into their fourth try and take

0:27:23.560 --> 0:27:25.560
<v Speaker 2>care of them as if it's a fourth trimester of

0:27:26.240 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 2>care inside. That's the concept. But it helps people to

0:27:28.840 --> 0:27:31.160
<v Speaker 2>know because it used to People used to say, don't

0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:32.760
<v Speaker 2>go to the baby when they're crying. You're going to

0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:35.240
<v Speaker 2>spoil them. You're going to make them feel like, you know,

0:27:36.280 --> 0:27:38.119
<v Speaker 2>like they're going to get everything they want just because

0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:41.520
<v Speaker 2>they cry. And actually what you're doing in the beginning,

0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:43.720
<v Speaker 2>but going to them and holding them and responding to

0:27:43.760 --> 0:27:46.360
<v Speaker 2>them quickly, is you're building a sense of trust and

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:48.879
<v Speaker 2>confidence that they're going to then carry with them the

0:27:48.880 --> 0:27:52.080
<v Speaker 2>rest of their lives. We call this attachment. So it's

0:27:52.119 --> 0:27:55.040
<v Speaker 2>super important to give to them to meet their needs

0:27:55.280 --> 0:27:57.240
<v Speaker 2>as much as you can. You can't do everything, but

0:27:57.240 --> 0:27:59.440
<v Speaker 2>as much as you can in those first six months

0:27:59.440 --> 0:28:01.840
<v Speaker 2>of life, and later on you're going to teach them well,

0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:03.400
<v Speaker 2>just because you cried doesn't mean you're going to get

0:28:03.400 --> 0:28:05.200
<v Speaker 2>what you want. You know, you can't have the scissors

0:28:05.400 --> 0:28:07.280
<v Speaker 2>period of end of story, you know, and you're going

0:28:07.320 --> 0:28:09.560
<v Speaker 2>to teach limits at that point, but you don't need

0:28:09.560 --> 0:28:11.159
<v Speaker 2>to worry about that in the first six months.

0:28:11.400 --> 0:28:13.520
<v Speaker 1>The elephant in the room that people will always bring

0:28:13.640 --> 0:28:17.320
<v Speaker 1>up when looking into your work is that you, uh

0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:22.080
<v Speaker 1>never had children. Uh yet you're the expert on all babies.

0:28:22.520 --> 0:28:26.199
<v Speaker 1>Although you do have a daughter, a step stepdaughter. She

0:28:26.320 --> 0:28:28.280
<v Speaker 1>works for you down to she does. Yeah, she's our

0:28:28.320 --> 0:28:29.919
<v Speaker 1>head of marketing. Do you ever you ever? Do you

0:28:29.920 --> 0:28:33.919
<v Speaker 1>ever swaddle her as an adult? Just to be funny,

0:28:34.160 --> 0:28:36.959
<v Speaker 1>do people people ever say, oh my god, how how

0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:38.120
<v Speaker 1>would you relate to them?

0:28:38.120 --> 0:28:41.080
<v Speaker 2>And that's obviously ignorant people say that. I mean, it's

0:28:41.120 --> 0:28:44.160
<v Speaker 2>like going to a gynecologist who's a man and saying,

0:28:44.640 --> 0:28:46.240
<v Speaker 2>can you be a gynocologist? He's been on my show?

0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:49.880
<v Speaker 2>Really my wife's obi? Seriously? Yeah? Yeah yeah? Would you

0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:51.640
<v Speaker 2>love to have your brain? Uh?

0:28:51.680 --> 0:28:54.600
<v Speaker 1>Like you know I live forever, forget that nonsense. But

0:28:54.600 --> 0:28:58.520
<v Speaker 1>but wouldn't you love to have your brain downloaded and

0:28:58.560 --> 0:29:01.480
<v Speaker 1>then turned back on a couple hundred years from to

0:29:01.520 --> 0:29:04.800
<v Speaker 1>see how right or wrong you were about things, Because

0:29:04.800 --> 0:29:06.640
<v Speaker 1>there's no way we're going to be doing things the

0:29:06.720 --> 0:29:09.080
<v Speaker 1>exact same way that we do now with babies.

0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:11.440
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that's curious, Yeah, of course, of course, like

0:29:12.000 --> 0:29:14.080
<v Speaker 2>a time machine. Well because like it's like, oh, babies

0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:15.840
<v Speaker 2>sleep on their stomach. Now it's like, oh my god,

0:29:15.960 --> 0:29:18.680
<v Speaker 2>make sure they're on you know, a coffee table. There's

0:29:18.760 --> 0:29:20.560
<v Speaker 2>just a study that just came out with that, and

0:29:20.640 --> 0:29:23.080
<v Speaker 2>well that says they can sleep on a softer bed. No,

0:29:23.160 --> 0:29:25.480
<v Speaker 2>it said that what we did by putting them on

0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:28.120
<v Speaker 2>the back actually messed up with their sleep. It keeps

0:29:28.160 --> 0:29:31.120
<v Speaker 2>them safer, it's definitely the only safe position. But babies

0:29:31.160 --> 0:29:33.280
<v Speaker 2>don't like to sleep on the back. They win themselves up.

0:29:33.400 --> 0:29:37.440
<v Speaker 2>You know, my second one, oh my goodness, about three

0:29:37.480 --> 0:29:38.240
<v Speaker 2>maybe four months.

0:29:38.280 --> 0:29:42.120
<v Speaker 1>I'll lie if this is inappropriate. But once she once

0:29:42.200 --> 0:29:44.560
<v Speaker 1>she went over to her stomach and started, I was

0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:46.400
<v Speaker 1>like done, Yeah, I'm letting her.

0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:49.280
<v Speaker 2>But here's the thing, and we you know, I'm old

0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:51.720
<v Speaker 2>enough that I used to only recommend sleeping on the

0:29:51.720 --> 0:29:54.160
<v Speaker 2>stomach because we thought if you were on the back,

0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:56.680
<v Speaker 2>you would vomit and choke and run that cross desks.

0:29:56.720 --> 0:29:58.880
<v Speaker 2>It turned out we were one hundred and eighty degrees wrong.

0:29:59.280 --> 0:30:01.560
<v Speaker 2>Babies don't and choke on their back, so that is

0:30:01.600 --> 0:30:03.000
<v Speaker 2>safe from that point of view. But they don't like

0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:05.280
<v Speaker 2>being on the back like your daughter. But here's the thing,

0:30:05.280 --> 0:30:08.320
<v Speaker 2>they are safer on the back, and so why even

0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:11.600
<v Speaker 2>be forced into that chance? Why not allow a child

0:30:11.640 --> 0:30:14.360
<v Speaker 2>to sleep well, but sleep safely? And that's really what's

0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:16.520
<v Speaker 2>new is trying to do. I mean, it's weird.

0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:21.560
<v Speaker 1>It's weird the compromises you'll make with yourself for an

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:23.040
<v Speaker 1>extra thirty minutes of sleep.

0:30:23.480 --> 0:30:24.520
<v Speaker 2>That's the torture thing.

0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:28.360
<v Speaker 1>If my kids are good sleepers, Do I get any

0:30:28.400 --> 0:30:30.959
<v Speaker 1>credit for it as a parent or no, Yeah, you

0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:32.160
<v Speaker 1>did a fantastic job.

0:30:32.520 --> 0:30:32.960
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know.

0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:34.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, I didn't know because I didn't know if it

0:30:34.080 --> 0:30:35.320
<v Speaker 1>was one of these things where you're not supposed to

0:30:35.360 --> 0:30:39.040
<v Speaker 1>take pride over that because you know, just because your

0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:41.080
<v Speaker 1>kid's a bad sleeper doesn't mean you're a bad parent.

0:30:41.440 --> 0:30:43.360
<v Speaker 2>No, But you know, it's like the first question they

0:30:43.400 --> 0:30:45.320
<v Speaker 2>ask you right when the kid's born, they say boy

0:30:45.400 --> 0:30:47.280
<v Speaker 2>or girl? You know, But once you're home, they say,

0:30:47.280 --> 0:30:50.200
<v Speaker 2>how is your kids sleeping? Wink wink, nudge nudge, Like

0:30:50.280 --> 0:30:51.360
<v Speaker 2>you knows enough.

0:30:51.400 --> 0:30:53.360
<v Speaker 1>That's why I'm saying it like, well no, but they

0:30:53.360 --> 0:30:55.719
<v Speaker 1>always say it like is your kids sleeping?

0:30:55.920 --> 0:30:57.280
<v Speaker 2>And then people say always sleeping?

0:30:57.280 --> 0:30:59.040
<v Speaker 1>Great, and you try to wear that as a badge

0:30:59.040 --> 0:31:00.680
<v Speaker 1>of honor, but I didn't think that it was actually

0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:01.400
<v Speaker 1>a badge of honor.

0:31:01.480 --> 0:31:04.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, take it, take it whenever you can write, well,

0:31:04.520 --> 0:31:05.280
<v Speaker 2>then I'm amazing.

0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:08.960
<v Speaker 1>How much is this new seventeen hundred brand new? If

0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:11.320
<v Speaker 1>no rebate, no nothing, I want to I want off

0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:14.280
<v Speaker 1>the shelf. That's about what it is. Seven okay, yeah,

0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:16.640
<v Speaker 1>so you use it for six months?

0:31:16.720 --> 0:31:19.120
<v Speaker 2>Six months is how long? Yeah? Yeah? So that's like

0:31:19.360 --> 0:31:21.560
<v Speaker 2>nine dollars a day. So would you pay nine dollars

0:31:21.600 --> 0:31:24.200
<v Speaker 2>a day for an hour or two more sleep? And

0:31:24.360 --> 0:31:26.280
<v Speaker 2>I know you would. Wait, I wouldn't want it at all.

0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:29.160
<v Speaker 1>I'll buy one of those fancy mattresses that was with

0:31:29.240 --> 0:31:33.400
<v Speaker 1>the plaid what are they one hundred thousand dollars?

0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:36.640
<v Speaker 2>What are they called Hastens or whatever? You know? In

0:31:36.680 --> 0:31:39.480
<v Speaker 2>Beverly Hills they have a store the horse hair one. Yes,

0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:41.440
<v Speaker 2>the horse. You have a horse hair mattress. I don't

0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:43.880
<v Speaker 2>have one. No. I I sleep on a on a

0:31:44.920 --> 0:31:45.760
<v Speaker 2>just on a table like this.

0:31:45.880 --> 0:31:48.000
<v Speaker 1>No, you don't you like a firm bed. I do

0:31:48.160 --> 0:31:51.640
<v Speaker 1>like a firm Do you have it elevated slightly? I

0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:55.960
<v Speaker 1>have ranchisers? No little acid reflex. I guess did you

0:31:56.000 --> 0:31:57.400
<v Speaker 1>ever own a water bed in your life?

0:31:57.680 --> 0:31:58.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I did?

0:31:58.400 --> 0:31:58.880
<v Speaker 3>You did?

0:31:59.160 --> 0:31:59.400
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:05.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? The worst night sleep ever? Hated? Yeah, exactly. See,

0:32:05.000 --> 0:32:06.600
<v Speaker 2>He's like I had to take dramming. Mean every night.

0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:08.800
<v Speaker 2>How many hours a night are you sleeping? Six? Seven?

0:32:09.680 --> 0:32:13.120
<v Speaker 2>You know, when you're older, it's less need it as much. Yeah,

0:32:13.320 --> 0:32:15.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm way more. What time do you go to beds?

0:32:15.400 --> 0:32:19.280
<v Speaker 2>Eleven twelve? Do you nap sometimes? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah, I

0:32:19.360 --> 0:32:21.160
<v Speaker 2>love a nap. Yeah yeah, nap is good. I nap

0:32:21.200 --> 0:32:23.800
<v Speaker 2>almost every day. Do you almost every day? That's good.

0:32:23.960 --> 0:32:25.960
<v Speaker 1>My favorite thing is when I read an article where

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<v Speaker 1>it tells you, like, oh, the healthiest thing you can

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<v Speaker 1>do is get lots of sleep, And.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh, that's right, doctor's orders. My wife and

0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:33.840
<v Speaker 2>I sleep, and our kids sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>It's you know, people always like, oh, you should have

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<v Speaker 1>the same religion or you have to have a lot

0:32:37.600 --> 0:32:39.840
<v Speaker 1>in common. I don't know if we have a lot

0:32:39.880 --> 0:32:43.160
<v Speaker 1>in common, but we both love sleeping and that that

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<v Speaker 1>has had us proved to made a good marriage.

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<v Speaker 2>Call it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a broad term for prolonged crying or fussiness. Can

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<v Speaker 1>wives have collic.

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<v Speaker 2>It depends on their husband's.

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<v Speaker 1>Because there's just sometimes I just don't understand how she

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<v Speaker 1>can be so loud for so long.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, so the word colic comes from the same word

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<v Speaker 2>as colon, meaning you know, intestine, right, And so for

0:33:08.400 --> 0:33:11.160
<v Speaker 2>thousands of years people have said, well, colic, the babies

0:33:11.200 --> 0:33:13.080
<v Speaker 2>just cry, they get red in the face, they grunt

0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:15.880
<v Speaker 2>and say, go, I think it's their stomach is bothering them.

0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:18.520
<v Speaker 2>But here's the way that you know it isn't that.

0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:22.040
<v Speaker 2>It's that when when the baby is really fussy, and

0:33:22.120 --> 0:33:24.440
<v Speaker 2>sometimes we say driving around in the car and they

0:33:24.480 --> 0:33:26.280
<v Speaker 2>fall asleep in the car, Well, car is not going

0:33:26.320 --> 0:33:28.560
<v Speaker 2>to make pain go away, you know, or bouncing on

0:33:28.600 --> 0:33:30.640
<v Speaker 2>a yoga bawl things like that. So it turns out,

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<v Speaker 2>for the most part, colic is a child who is

0:33:33.720 --> 0:33:38.320
<v Speaker 2>like really sensitive and they don't have enough calming rhythms.

0:33:38.560 --> 0:33:40.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like if you hold and rock your child

0:33:40.440 --> 0:33:42.920
<v Speaker 2>all day long, they're much less fussy, so you kind

0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:45.360
<v Speaker 2>of pay it in before they get fussy in the evening.

0:33:45.520 --> 0:33:48.840
<v Speaker 2>You're retired. Are you're not practicing doctor? No, I'm not

0:33:48.840 --> 0:33:51.960
<v Speaker 2>seeing patients, right, But you still you run this new empire,

0:33:52.280 --> 0:33:54.720
<v Speaker 2>run this new business. Yeah. So the happiest baby is

0:33:54.760 --> 0:33:55.520
<v Speaker 2>our is our business.

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever you say this new you always say we that

0:33:58.520 --> 0:34:01.280
<v Speaker 1>seems nice, but are you really the the single person

0:34:01.280 --> 0:34:02.040
<v Speaker 1>that invented it.

0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:05.120
<v Speaker 2>I had the idea, but you know, to turn an idea,

0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:10.520
<v Speaker 2>it's like my wife's uncle is an incredibly successful CEO

0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:13.279
<v Speaker 2>pharmaceutical guy, and he said, give me a great idea.

0:34:13.280 --> 0:34:14.880
<v Speaker 2>I'll give you a dollar, make it work. I'll give

0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:17.399
<v Speaker 2>you a million. You know, having the idea is one thing,

0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:20.319
<v Speaker 2>but you need engineers. And this was actually difficult. This

0:34:20.480 --> 0:34:23.399
<v Speaker 2>was very difficult. It doesn't imagine. And my wife, God

0:34:23.440 --> 0:34:26.000
<v Speaker 2>bless her, is like there'd be no company without her.

0:34:26.120 --> 0:34:29.040
<v Speaker 2>She does so she found our factories, raised our money,

0:34:29.080 --> 0:34:33.080
<v Speaker 2>hired our executive team. You know, she has been just incredible.

0:34:33.120 --> 0:34:35.320
<v Speaker 2>So it really is a team. And my daughter actually,

0:34:35.400 --> 0:34:40.560
<v Speaker 2>like somebody that doesn't have a prina, she has trust.

0:34:40.920 --> 0:34:41.840
<v Speaker 2>She has trust.

0:34:43.840 --> 0:34:47.520
<v Speaker 1>But when it comes down to it, you're the one

0:34:47.800 --> 0:34:50.279
<v Speaker 1>that would make the final decision if this company were

0:34:50.280 --> 0:34:52.400
<v Speaker 1>to be sold. Weren't you offered one hundred million or

0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:54.239
<v Speaker 1>something crazy and you said no, thank you.

0:34:54.480 --> 0:34:57.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we were in the very beginning because we didn't

0:34:57.000 --> 0:34:59.240
<v Speaker 2>want a company to screw it up. I love everything

0:34:59.280 --> 0:35:02.480
<v Speaker 2>about you. Would you ever read reviews of your product

0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:05.319
<v Speaker 2>on like yelp? Yeah? Sure? Do you? Do you ever

0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:10.280
<v Speaker 2>write to them? No? Okay, no it's not there's no

0:35:10.560 --> 0:35:13.120
<v Speaker 2>there's only only pain and suffering and trying to get

0:35:13.120 --> 0:35:15.640
<v Speaker 2>into those dialogs. Listen, here's what my mother told me.

0:35:15.719 --> 0:35:19.879
<v Speaker 2>She said, if there's no controversy, you haven't introduced anything new,

0:35:20.160 --> 0:35:23.200
<v Speaker 2>So don't worry about controversy. And so people you know

0:35:23.440 --> 0:35:26.280
<v Speaker 2>and listen, not no one, no one. Product works for everybody.

0:35:26.560 --> 0:35:29.000
<v Speaker 2>But this works like ninety eight percent. The only real

0:35:29.080 --> 0:35:35.040
<v Speaker 2>controversy with you is is that I've seen is that you're, oh,

0:35:35.080 --> 0:35:38.319
<v Speaker 2>you would be attached to a lot of celebrities. At

0:35:38.360 --> 0:35:42.520
<v Speaker 2>the beginning, people said that that wasn't uh whatever, and

0:35:42.560 --> 0:35:46.000
<v Speaker 2>then it wasn't obtainable for everybody. Now you've you've over

0:35:46.080 --> 0:35:49.080
<v Speaker 2>you've said five dollars a day or something that. But yeah,

0:35:49.160 --> 0:35:51.640
<v Speaker 2>our goal is everyone gets it for free. I mean

0:35:51.680 --> 0:35:54.600
<v Speaker 2>the thousands of people get a free snoop from their employer.

0:35:54.880 --> 0:35:59.040
<v Speaker 2>So anyone who's listening can what employers are JP, Morgan, Chase,

0:35:59.120 --> 0:36:01.879
<v Speaker 2>under Armor, Snapped, Underdone. It's I'm not going to work

0:36:01.880 --> 0:36:05.000
<v Speaker 2>for under armored just for a snooz. How about Sonic Burgers,

0:36:05.000 --> 0:36:08.480
<v Speaker 2>which which is with that National Air Traffic Controllers Union,

0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:11.520
<v Speaker 2>which Sonic Burgers gives free snooze? Yeah, it's pretty nice.

0:36:11.600 --> 0:36:11.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:36:11.880 --> 0:36:13.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So anyway, the point being that our goal is

0:36:13.920 --> 0:36:16.040
<v Speaker 2>everyone's going to get it for free, so insurance will

0:36:16.040 --> 0:36:18.760
<v Speaker 2>cover it. Now we're starting to work with medicaid programs

0:36:18.800 --> 0:36:21.000
<v Speaker 2>so that the most at risk populations can get this

0:36:21.320 --> 0:36:23.080
<v Speaker 2>because the goal, Like I said, I'm seventy two. I'm

0:36:23.080 --> 0:36:25.399
<v Speaker 2>not I mean the only I'm not a startup guy.

0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:28.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm not a roboticist. I'm not a techie guy. I'm here.

0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:30.680
<v Speaker 2>My wife and I really started this, and this is

0:36:30.880 --> 0:36:32.319
<v Speaker 2>this is just the way it is. You know, we

0:36:32.360 --> 0:36:34.759
<v Speaker 2>started this because it was a serious problem and it

0:36:34.800 --> 0:36:38.120
<v Speaker 2>wasn't getting better year after year in the last twenty years.

0:36:38.520 --> 0:36:40.359
<v Speaker 2>You know how many babies have died of SIDS. It's

0:36:40.400 --> 0:36:43.239
<v Speaker 2>the same number of American babies as American soldiers who

0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:46.920
<v Speaker 2>died in Vietnam. I mean, it's just absolute travesty, and

0:36:46.960 --> 0:36:48.880
<v Speaker 2>so that's why we started this because we thought we

0:36:48.880 --> 0:36:51.360
<v Speaker 2>could make a difference. So now the goal is to

0:36:51.400 --> 0:36:53.720
<v Speaker 2>get everybody to get it for free, and we're working

0:36:53.760 --> 0:36:55.640
<v Speaker 2>hard to do that and it'll be paid for by

0:36:56.080 --> 0:36:57.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, the insurance folks.

0:36:57.680 --> 0:37:01.120
<v Speaker 1>I heard Beyonce about thirty six of them is true?

0:37:01.680 --> 0:37:04.239
<v Speaker 2>No comment, right, why did you name it snow? When

0:37:04.239 --> 0:37:06.480
<v Speaker 2>we tested it out, people smiled when they said the

0:37:06.480 --> 0:37:08.640
<v Speaker 2>word snooze, So that's kind of a positive thing. We

0:37:08.680 --> 0:37:10.600
<v Speaker 2>have the five says. We wanted this to be one

0:37:10.600 --> 0:37:12.719
<v Speaker 2>of the says. Do you know about the five s's? Also,

0:37:12.719 --> 0:37:15.399
<v Speaker 2>I just want to know about the five K sarcasm?

0:37:15.719 --> 0:37:17.799
<v Speaker 2>Do you do that? That always works with my child? Yes?

0:37:18.200 --> 0:37:23.680
<v Speaker 2>Personality sneezing. You should never sneeze in a baby's face.

0:37:23.760 --> 0:37:28.480
<v Speaker 1>That's a bad idea. The five that's of course, that's one.

0:37:28.960 --> 0:37:32.280
<v Speaker 1>Swaddle what's this swinging?

0:37:32.400 --> 0:37:36.399
<v Speaker 2>Swinging? Okay, sucking and the side stomach position.

0:37:36.280 --> 0:37:39.600
<v Speaker 1>Sarcasm isn't one of them though, interesting, So everyone knows

0:37:39.640 --> 0:37:41.239
<v Speaker 1>you hold a baby, rock them, it's going to work.

0:37:41.280 --> 0:37:42.200
<v Speaker 1>But why does it work?

0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:45.000
<v Speaker 2>Why did you ever fall asleep, like on a long

0:37:45.040 --> 0:37:47.799
<v Speaker 2>haul airplane flight or in a car. Yeah, so all

0:37:47.840 --> 0:37:50.640
<v Speaker 2>adults do that. They like to rock and hammocks. We

0:37:50.800 --> 0:37:52.760
<v Speaker 2>like the sound of the wind and love a hammock.

0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:56.120
<v Speaker 2>You don't, okay, well rocking on the ocean? Do you

0:37:56.239 --> 0:37:59.520
<v Speaker 2>like that feel? You're done? In a boat? But boats? No,

0:37:59.520 --> 0:38:02.399
<v Speaker 2>not that either? No, okay, I don't nap, but see

0:38:02.520 --> 0:38:07.040
<v Speaker 2>often on a cruise, yeah, yeah, I like cruise. No, no,

0:38:07.080 --> 0:38:11.680
<v Speaker 2>I've been personal cruise the right way, the right you've

0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:14.840
<v Speaker 2>been on some oligarchs they always want a doctor on board.

0:38:15.280 --> 0:38:18.560
<v Speaker 2>They rush. Oligarchs have asked you to to be their

0:38:18.640 --> 0:38:23.920
<v Speaker 2>primary care physician. I cannot give you. You know, the

0:38:24.000 --> 0:38:26.080
<v Speaker 2>cool thing about one of the things that I really

0:38:26.160 --> 0:38:30.239
<v Speaker 2>enjoy about the five S is actually, you know, what

0:38:30.360 --> 0:38:32.319
<v Speaker 2>is the reason that the five s's work. Well, it

0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:35.600
<v Speaker 2>imitates the uterus? But why does the imitating the uterus work?

0:38:35.920 --> 0:38:37.600
<v Speaker 2>And this was actually the kind of thing that I

0:38:37.640 --> 0:38:40.200
<v Speaker 2>really discovered. This was the Aha moment, which is that

0:38:41.040 --> 0:38:44.160
<v Speaker 2>babies are born with lots of reflexes. That's that's a

0:38:44.480 --> 0:38:47.479
<v Speaker 2>built in software so that they survived. Like, you don't

0:38:47.480 --> 0:38:49.680
<v Speaker 2>teach a baby to suck or to swallow, they know

0:38:49.680 --> 0:38:51.480
<v Speaker 2>how to do that all on their own. You don't

0:38:51.480 --> 0:38:53.719
<v Speaker 2>teach them how to cry. But it turns out they're

0:38:53.760 --> 0:38:56.919
<v Speaker 2>born with an off switch for crying, and the that

0:38:57.040 --> 0:39:00.080
<v Speaker 2>off switch is activated by imitating the womb. And the

0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:03.400
<v Speaker 2>reason that that's so important, the entire survival of the

0:39:03.440 --> 0:39:07.920
<v Speaker 2>species is dependent upon babies having that off switch, because

0:39:08.000 --> 0:39:11.120
<v Speaker 2>if they're swimming around too much before they're born, they'll

0:39:11.120 --> 0:39:14.000
<v Speaker 2>get stuck in a sideways position or in a breach

0:39:14.080 --> 0:39:16.680
<v Speaker 2>position where their head is up and their feet down,

0:39:17.120 --> 0:39:19.839
<v Speaker 2>and then they get stuck coming out and they die

0:39:19.840 --> 0:39:22.160
<v Speaker 2>and they kill their mothers. So all of us are

0:39:22.200 --> 0:39:24.759
<v Speaker 2>descendants of these zen little babies who are kind of

0:39:24.760 --> 0:39:27.560
<v Speaker 2>put into a trance by the rhythms and the sound

0:39:27.600 --> 0:39:29.920
<v Speaker 2>of the womb. The whole reason that you have mantras

0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:31.880
<v Speaker 2>or that people like to rock. You know how you

0:39:31.920 --> 0:39:33.920
<v Speaker 2>see people with their legs going back and forth when

0:39:33.960 --> 0:39:35.279
<v Speaker 2>they're nervous and kind of.

0:39:35.320 --> 0:39:37.640
<v Speaker 1>Generating, and they shake the table and they shake the

0:39:37.680 --> 0:39:39.080
<v Speaker 1>table infuriating.

0:39:39.280 --> 0:39:42.359
<v Speaker 2>I know it's annoying, but it's soothing for them. And

0:39:42.600 --> 0:39:45.280
<v Speaker 2>all of that is really related to this very ancient

0:39:45.320 --> 0:39:48.000
<v Speaker 2>part of our biology. There's the book The Happiest Baby

0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:50.920
<v Speaker 2>on the Block, which I kind of don't recommend people

0:39:50.960 --> 0:39:54.040
<v Speaker 2>read because there's a video. I mean, it's a great

0:39:54.080 --> 0:39:56.479
<v Speaker 2>book and it's got interesting stuff, but to really learn

0:39:56.520 --> 0:39:59.359
<v Speaker 2>the five essays, you got to watch it. And so

0:39:59.760 --> 0:40:02.000
<v Speaker 2>they're the video we have that teaches that. It's kind

0:40:02.000 --> 0:40:03.759
<v Speaker 2>of like learning how to tie your shoelaces. You know you're

0:40:03.760 --> 0:40:05.719
<v Speaker 2>going to learn it better by watching somebody than by

0:40:05.760 --> 0:40:08.040
<v Speaker 2>reading on a book about it. Just how hard is

0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:13.160
<v Speaker 2>it to learn? And then snugly and huggy and so

0:40:13.160 --> 0:40:15.839
<v Speaker 2>so here's the here's the kind of nuance to it, right,

0:40:15.880 --> 0:40:19.000
<v Speaker 2>it's on the side, roll towards the stomach, not roll

0:40:19.080 --> 0:40:21.600
<v Speaker 2>towards the back. So people oftentimes mess that up or

0:40:21.640 --> 0:40:25.560
<v Speaker 2>they have to squaddle arms tight but legs loose. And

0:40:26.200 --> 0:40:28.600
<v Speaker 2>the shushing how loud you do the shushing people all

0:40:28.640 --> 0:40:30.759
<v Speaker 2>the time or you know, like what you just said,

0:40:30.800 --> 0:40:33.520
<v Speaker 2>the that's not the way it is for babies. You

0:40:33.520 --> 0:40:36.040
<v Speaker 2>get because inside the wound before babies are born, which

0:40:36.040 --> 0:40:38.600
<v Speaker 2>is what you're imitating, it's louder than a vacuum cut.

0:40:38.760 --> 0:40:41.520
<v Speaker 1>Do you know it's been measured? It's science, got it.

0:40:41.520 --> 0:40:42.880
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know they could measure. I didn't know they

0:40:42.880 --> 0:40:44.960
<v Speaker 1>could measure it. Yeah, I didn't know they could measure it.

0:40:45.000 --> 0:40:48.799
<v Speaker 1>You got Okay, No, listen, I go as loud as

0:40:48.840 --> 0:40:52.120
<v Speaker 1>I need to break her or him out of whatever

0:40:52.120 --> 0:40:52.480
<v Speaker 1>they're in.

0:40:52.640 --> 0:40:54.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but people when they do that, they go I

0:40:54.320 --> 0:40:56.560
<v Speaker 2>feel bad, like I'm saying shut up or something like that.

0:40:57.000 --> 0:40:58.839
<v Speaker 2>But you have to. You're exactly right. You go to

0:40:58.880 --> 0:41:00.960
<v Speaker 2>the level of their crime and then you kind of

0:41:00.960 --> 0:41:02.879
<v Speaker 2>bring them down for a soft landing. All right. See,

0:41:02.880 --> 0:41:04.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't have to read it or yeah, you're a natural.

0:41:04.840 --> 0:41:05.440
<v Speaker 2>You're natural.

0:41:05.520 --> 0:41:08.400
<v Speaker 1>I give everybody that's on my show a gift, but

0:41:08.440 --> 0:41:09.520
<v Speaker 1>I have to grab it over here.

0:41:09.680 --> 0:41:10.880
<v Speaker 2>It's not a real gift.

0:41:10.960 --> 0:41:12.839
<v Speaker 1>It's it's just something from my house that I don't

0:41:12.880 --> 0:41:14.920
<v Speaker 1>want anymore, and then they have to take it.

0:41:16.719 --> 0:41:21.160
<v Speaker 2>Do you like massages? No, okay, it's farra gun.

0:41:21.719 --> 0:41:26.560
<v Speaker 1>Well I figured if it's it's like a massage, but

0:41:26.640 --> 0:41:28.799
<v Speaker 1>it's a machine that does it for you, much like

0:41:28.880 --> 0:41:32.120
<v Speaker 1>this new is a person rocking you. You can just

0:41:32.120 --> 0:41:34.080
<v Speaker 1>have this. I never like this. Somebody got me this,

0:41:34.120 --> 0:41:35.759
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, I'm not using this. I like a

0:41:35.760 --> 0:41:37.880
<v Speaker 1>real massage. You give yourself a happy.

0:41:37.719 --> 0:41:42.040
<v Speaker 2>Ending with this. You're gonna get hurt, So here you

0:41:42.080 --> 0:41:45.920
<v Speaker 2>can take my massage gun. Thank you so much. That's

0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:50.359
<v Speaker 2>incredibly generous. Wait, you know what, I have more things

0:41:50.360 --> 0:41:51.640
<v Speaker 2>for you. I forgot I have.

0:41:52.160 --> 0:41:55.320
<v Speaker 1>This is if you ever use like a face mist

0:41:55.600 --> 0:41:57.400
<v Speaker 1>before you go to bed. It's supposed to help you sleep,

0:41:57.600 --> 0:42:00.440
<v Speaker 1>like a sprint, a lavender or something. I don't, yes, exactly.

0:42:00.480 --> 0:42:02.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't like the smell of this one, so I'm

0:42:02.320 --> 0:42:03.640
<v Speaker 1>going to give that to you. And this is just

0:42:03.640 --> 0:42:06.080
<v Speaker 1>some essential oils called unwined. It's going to help you

0:42:06.120 --> 0:42:06.520
<v Speaker 1>sleep more.

0:42:06.640 --> 0:42:08.080
<v Speaker 2>Huh. And you hate this one too, I don't like

0:42:08.120 --> 0:42:10.879
<v Speaker 2>that do so much. I'm going to get this off

0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:12.120
<v Speaker 2>my table. I don't.

0:42:13.920 --> 0:42:17.080
<v Speaker 1>You wrote happiest baby on the Block, every happiest toddler

0:42:17.160 --> 0:42:21.600
<v Speaker 1>on the block, any plans on publishing happiest slash sometimes

0:42:21.640 --> 0:42:25.000
<v Speaker 1>depressed slash most awkward teenager on the block.

0:42:25.200 --> 0:42:29.840
<v Speaker 2>You know something that is the toddler book. Teenagers and

0:42:29.880 --> 0:42:32.000
<v Speaker 2>toddlers have a lot in common. Toddler starts at one

0:42:32.040 --> 0:42:34.279
<v Speaker 2>and goes till when tyler starts at eight months, eight

0:42:34.280 --> 0:42:38.399
<v Speaker 2>months and goes up to you know, seventies, eighties. I mean, listen,

0:42:38.440 --> 0:42:40.520
<v Speaker 2>everyone becomes a toddler when they get upset enough, right,

0:42:40.560 --> 0:42:44.279
<v Speaker 2>they throw a fit and they're not reasonable and they

0:42:44.320 --> 0:42:46.880
<v Speaker 2>can't hear what you're saying. Toddlers are between being an

0:42:46.960 --> 0:42:50.400
<v Speaker 2>infant and being a kid, and they want to you know,

0:42:50.440 --> 0:42:52.480
<v Speaker 2>they want to do things that they can't quite do yet.

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<v Speaker 2>But then they fall and they cry like little babies.

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<v Speaker 2>They're going back and forth teenagers. I want to be

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<v Speaker 2>a kid and I want to be an adult. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to clean up my room? Can I have

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<v Speaker 2>the car keys? You know. It is really trying to

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<v Speaker 2>find their way to make the jump into into adulthood.

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<v Speaker 2>So a lot of the way you communicate actually is

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<v Speaker 2>very very similar. Have you checked out happiest toddler on

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<v Speaker 2>the block now? So you don't like any of my work? Basically,

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<v Speaker 2>you're just that's not avoiding me.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I like, here's I married someone that is so

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<v Speaker 1>smart that.

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<v Speaker 2>You're just delegated. You're outsurfing. I delegated it and I

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<v Speaker 2>went surfing. You're not wrong, It's what it's like. I

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<v Speaker 2>have so much confidence in now now here. I have

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<v Speaker 2>tons of experience with babies. I have a large family,

0:43:41.600 --> 0:43:45.080
<v Speaker 2>they all had children early. I've always been around me.

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<v Speaker 2>I was babysitting was my key source of income. From

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<v Speaker 2>like eleven years on. I've just always been very comfortable

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<v Speaker 2>around kids. Well and not to.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, brag that my kids are better than all

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<v Speaker 1>of their friends, but like they are the we have

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<v Speaker 1>a large group of friends in our in our neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 2>My kids are the only ones.

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<v Speaker 1>That get jokes and when somebody is serious and not serious,

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<v Speaker 1>like they can just tell if I tell another kid like,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll just be like, they'll shriek. My kid knows that's

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<v Speaker 1>not that's not real.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, because you've taught them that over and over

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<v Speaker 2>and over again. Right, that's the list you got to

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<v Speaker 2>teach them. You got to teach them how to get jokes,

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<v Speaker 2>all that stuff, and also not to take you know that,

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<v Speaker 2>I like little kids love to negotiate with you and

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<v Speaker 2>learn how to negotiate so that Oh no, that's too hard.

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<v Speaker 2>You're asking too much for me. I can't. Oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you drove a hard bargain. Okay, I will give you

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<v Speaker 2>one cheerio if you brush your teeth, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>you make it make them feel like they're winning out

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<v Speaker 2>through this negotiation, so you don't want to take it

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<v Speaker 2>so so seriously that everything is earnest and heavy my

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<v Speaker 2>kid's not gonna do shit for one cheerio, all right, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Dan too, two cheerious You.

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<v Speaker 1>And I at least honey nut cheerios, or he's not

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<v Speaker 1>even getting out of bed.

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<v Speaker 2>If you wanted to see the future, read The Happiest Toddler,

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<v Speaker 2>because you will understand ways to communicate with kids that

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<v Speaker 2>that people who like preschool teachers and pediatricians who do

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<v Speaker 2>this as a profession, are able to do to get

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<v Speaker 2>kids to cooperate and stuff like that. Like in my practice,

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<v Speaker 2>I had a reputation in Santa Monica for being the

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<v Speaker 2>doctor that if your kid hated doctors and was scared

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<v Speaker 2>of doctors, that I would help them get over that,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's all about how you communicate and approach them.

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<v Speaker 2>And I bet as a comedian you already have a

0:45:36.440 --> 0:45:38.279
<v Speaker 2>lot of skills that you're use in because you don't

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<v Speaker 2>take it all so seriously and so earnestly, which is

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<v Speaker 2>half of the problem. Right. People are just so incredibly

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<v Speaker 2>you know, oh I don't want to hurt their feelings,

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<v Speaker 2>or oh I can't make them do this or that,

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<v Speaker 2>and you don't take the responsibility of being a parent,

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<v Speaker 2>and so part of what I talk about in the

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<v Speaker 2>book is how do you set limits and how do you,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, do the tough things that you have to

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<v Speaker 2>do as a parent because you're not their friend, you're

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<v Speaker 2>their parent also their friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Maternity leave it's bad in this country. Well, paternity leave. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>how long should people get off from work to focus

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<v Speaker 1>on their newborn baby?

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<v Speaker 2>A year is a good amount of time. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>here's an interesting thing that's going on. Everyone knows about

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<v Speaker 2>the climate crisis, you know, fad things are happening there.

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<v Speaker 2>Not a lot of people know about the population cliff,

0:46:24.520 --> 0:46:28.000
<v Speaker 2>which means that there aren't enough babies being born. I

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<v Speaker 2>know you've advocated having fewer babies being born, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Have I Yeah, yeah, I'm sure it made a joke

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<v Speaker 1>about it. But that's why I meant children. John over

0:46:37.560 --> 0:46:39.279
<v Speaker 1>here keeps spitting out kids every week.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's the thing. In a lot of countries, the

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<v Speaker 2>population is dropped. In the United States has dropped twenty

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<v Speaker 2>percent over the last decade, but in some places like Korea, Japan, Italy,

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<v Speaker 2>even China, now it's plummeting. And what that means is

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<v Speaker 2>twenty or thirty years from now, you're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>have people to pick up the garbage, to do all

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<v Speaker 2>the jobs, to pay the taxes. It's all going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a bunch of old people and nobody'd take care

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<v Speaker 2>of them. Twenty thirty years ago we worried about overpopulation.

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<v Speaker 2>It has shifted like a one eighty and now it's

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<v Speaker 2>a very serious international problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you saying, though, that there's gonna be more land,

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<v Speaker 1>affordable land available for my kid's future.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's not all bad. No, it isn't. So there's

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<v Speaker 2>a there's there's a silver lining for the tashas everybody

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<v Speaker 2>else is screwed.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah ohash oh, they finally catch a break.

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor Carp, thank you very much for being here today.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate it. It's so good to meet you. Daniel

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<v Speaker 2>still got.

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<v Speaker 1>A baby sleeping, Pasha.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to thank doctor Carp. Good stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I learned a lot, but it doesn't matter now because

0:47:50.400 --> 0:47:52.400
<v Speaker 1>my kids are past the age now if I have

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<v Speaker 1>a third child, shoot me.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a good guest. Carl, Why you're sitting over here?

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<v Speaker 1>You want to tell everybody, I cause your birthday's coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>His birthdays this week. Carl's gonna be three years old.

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<v Speaker 1>Send us some stuff. You know the problem with our

0:48:11.760 --> 0:48:15.000
<v Speaker 1>podcast is now it's reached.

0:48:16.320 --> 0:48:18.360
<v Speaker 2>Like my outer circle.

0:48:19.120 --> 0:48:21.560
<v Speaker 1>I got an inner circle, right, which is just the

0:48:21.560 --> 0:48:24.640
<v Speaker 1>people I see constantly friends, event then there's this outer

0:48:24.800 --> 0:48:27.920
<v Speaker 1>circle of people I know, and then they kind of

0:48:28.000 --> 0:48:29.920
<v Speaker 1>keep coming up to me the other day, Like a

0:48:29.960 --> 0:48:32.160
<v Speaker 1>guy goes, oh my goodness, you know so and so,

0:48:32.239 --> 0:48:33.719
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, yeah, yeah, I know. He goes, you

0:48:33.800 --> 0:48:35.600
<v Speaker 1>got to have him on your podcast. He's not a

0:48:35.600 --> 0:48:39.000
<v Speaker 1>celebrity's he'd be perfect And I just like looked at

0:48:39.040 --> 0:48:41.040
<v Speaker 1>him like, oh no, I don't think he would. I

0:48:41.040 --> 0:48:43.839
<v Speaker 1>don't find him interesting at all. Or I get this.

0:48:43.880 --> 0:48:46.040
<v Speaker 1>I get this a lot now, Eddie people, I could

0:48:46.080 --> 0:48:49.120
<v Speaker 1>never be a guest on your podcast. I could never

0:48:49.239 --> 0:48:51.680
<v Speaker 1>do it. And I'm like, yeah, no, shit, I would

0:48:51.719 --> 0:48:56.520
<v Speaker 1>never ask you what's going on? We've got some tour dates.

0:48:56.960 --> 0:48:58.840
<v Speaker 1>Make sure he comes see me do stand up comedy.

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<v Speaker 1>Carl will be there.

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<v Speaker 2>What else?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, boyswearpink dot com If you want to get something

0:49:07.200 --> 0:49:09.160
<v Speaker 1>cute for your little one?

0:49:09.719 --> 0:49:14.040
<v Speaker 2>What else Carl like a puppet? What else? What else? Buddy?

0:49:14.080 --> 0:49:14.560
<v Speaker 2>What else?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh? That?

0:49:15.440 --> 0:49:19.840
<v Speaker 2>Goat? What episode are we on? Now? Don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>many more are there? When are we?

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<v Speaker 1>Are we at the penultimate? Do you know what the

0:49:22.800 --> 0:49:26.160
<v Speaker 1>penultimate means. It's the second to last. I always feel

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<v Speaker 1>smart whenever I say pen ultimate.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh brother, well, got another bedtime story for my son. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll see you guys next week. Happy birthday, Carl, Give

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<v Speaker 1>me one quick story before mom reads.

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<v Speaker 5>Go ahead, tie in a little so land. We give

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<v Speaker 5>a treating anyway with a big revealed track society at

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<v Speaker 5>he would be. He would only be a fleak either

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<v Speaker 5>then they freaked the dress, or it will be flick

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<v Speaker 5>flat so he could dry. And so one day he

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<v Speaker 5>decided to be a push flatt so he dart suddle.

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<v Speaker 5>He pushed it all the way, flew the plant so

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<v Speaker 5>they would row high and tall. So but he decided

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<v Speaker 5>that he would be a mile for it. One day

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<v Speaker 5>he would then milk prints mail him to pretend mal

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<v Speaker 5>and he was saying usal male. The one decided to

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<v Speaker 5>do milk, tell weed do too. But the only shiit

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<v Speaker 5>he didn't know that there was a milk guy. He

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<v Speaker 5>was milk and he turned the milt's any but the

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<v Speaker 5>weded drinmed the moon and they walked and they walked

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<v Speaker 5>away on the table. The milkman who did it different

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<v Speaker 5>the humbled door. But the milkman, as he didn't know

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<v Speaker 5>there was the little take. He sat and then he

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<v Speaker 5>set down to the milk tea. He saw a way

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<v Speaker 5>to get out or the milk take deep and wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Good story.