1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George nor 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: with you. David Ditchfield as a near death experiencer, inspired artist, composer, author, 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: and he wants to use his NDE to make positive 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: differences in your lives. In two thousand and six, he 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: was dragged under a speeding train and a freak accident. 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: We'll talk about that. As the surgeons fought to save him, 8 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: he had a profound near death experience. When he woke 9 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: in the hospital, he had acquired some astonishing new abilities, 10 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: and he found that he could paint dramatic paintings of 11 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: what he had seen in the afterlife. We've got those 12 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 1: at Coast to COASTAM dot com, far beyond any artistic 13 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: ability he had before. And then he discovered he could 14 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: compose classical music. Have he never received any training? That's amazing. 15 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: His book is called Shine On David. Welcome to the program. 16 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: Looking forward to this with you tonight. Hey Joe, thanks 17 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: for having me on. Tell me how you got under 18 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: a speeding train? Right, Oh my god, I hate to 19 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: have you relived this again, but we got to find 20 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: out what happened to you? No worries, I've you know, 21 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: I've spoken about it quite a few times now, so yeah, well, 22 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: basically what happened was I've been living in London at 23 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: the time, and my sister lived in Cambridge and out 24 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: in the country, and she said, come and spend a 25 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: few days with us, because I was down on my 26 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 1: luk earlier at that point in my life and I 27 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: needed a break. So I was up there for a 28 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: few weeks and a friend that I just met in 29 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: London came up and stayed with me, and I was 30 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: seeing her off at the rail station. She needed to 31 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: get back to the town and I helped onto the 32 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: train carriage with her bags and you gave her a 33 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: hug and I was just kissing her goodbye, and then 34 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: I heard the emergency buzzers game for the doors about 35 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: to close, so and she was going, David, get off. 36 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: I was going, yeah, yeah, I'm going, don't worry. And 37 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: as I stepped back, it was a very cold February 38 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: day and my coat got caught in the actual closing 39 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: doors doors, so like the bottom half of it was 40 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: trapped in there, you know, and it was like, oh boy, 41 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: you know, I tried to pull it free, but it 42 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: was like a good quality sheepskin and it wasn't going 43 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: to come out, so I called for help. I looked 44 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: around and there was no guard on the platform that day, 45 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: and I thought there was only one of the guy 46 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: actually just behind me, who had been seen off his 47 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: partner also and you know, he said take your coat off, mate, 48 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: you know, and I said, yeah. I said, there's no 49 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: way it's going to come off because the sheepskin lining 50 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: was like so thick. It was just you know, hugging 51 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 1: my The arms of the whole jackets were trapped in 52 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: it exactly. There was no way it was just going 53 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: to slip out. So I started banging on the you know, 54 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: the windows, shouting velp, hitting the automatic door buttons, but 55 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: nothing happened. So I just stood there and I was 56 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: looking at my friend Anna, and we were just staring 57 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: through the glass at each other, and the look of 58 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: horror on her face was just you know, understandable. And 59 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: then at that point I figured, well, this is it. 60 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: You know, the engines were just ramping up to Leaf 61 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: and I figured I'm not going to get away from this, 62 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: you know, and I'm probably going to die at this point, 63 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: and it started putting up a pace and the train 64 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: went incredibly fat. It's amazing how faster train pulls out 65 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: of the station when you're on the outside of it, 66 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: you believe you me, it's like it's a different story. 67 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: You don't realize. And I lost my footing eventually and 68 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: was dragged along the platform and then I was pulled 69 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: between the gap of the platform edge and the train itself. 70 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: And then you're kind of like in that group, kind 71 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: of like in a groove, right, Yeah, that's it, and 72 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: it's it's it's you know, it's not it's not it's 73 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: it's not a very white gap at all. But because 74 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: of the the full speed and thrust of the train 75 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: and me still being attached to I went down and 76 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: and I just remember thinking, well, this is it. I'm 77 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: going to die, you know. And I was just pulled down. 78 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: I remember seeing the side of the carriacters seemed to 79 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: disappear into the sky and it was like a tremendous drop, 80 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: and then I was thrown into like this darkness and 81 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: I was just tossed around like a rag doll. And 82 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: I was like basted around from from the you know, 83 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: the side of the wall to the train. Yeah, and 84 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: then I was conscious throughout the whole thing. So it 85 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: was incredibly terrifying. Could you see people looking down at you, 86 00:04:55,440 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: David from the train? No, No, I it was just 87 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: what I'm saying is, as I got pulled down, I 88 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: just remember seeing the side of the carriage doors seemed 89 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: to disappear up into the sky. But by then I 90 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: was in complete darkness. I was just you know, right 91 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: underneath and it was just being you know, thrown all 92 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: over the place. And then I landed literally on the 93 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: gravel in between the tracks, and then and the train 94 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: was still going on above my head at a high 95 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: You're bouncing, you're basically bouncing along, your legs are being 96 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 1: dragged around and everything. Well, it was just like being 97 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: thrown into into a washing machine, you know, full speed. 98 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: You know, Oh my god, It's just complete chaos, and 99 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: you know, it incredibly frightening. And then I just kind 100 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: of lay with my face down into the gravel and 101 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: I just figured to myself, it's not over yet. You know. 102 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: I could get hit by part of the undercarriage of 103 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: the trains that's right, that's right, or there could be 104 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: something hanging on the top there you know, people stand 105 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,119 Speaker 1: to get on the train as it's going down the path. 106 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: Are you still underground or are you above ground? Yeah? 107 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: Well this was Yeah, I was underneath the actual train 108 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 1: at that point, so it was more like some of 109 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: the undercarriage of the train. Oh god. So yeah, So 110 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: I just kind of I was in survival mode basically, 111 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: and I just figured right at this stage, It's amazing 112 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: how much I thought things through, you know, and I thought, Okay, 113 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: I think it's the or the Indiana Jones movies and 114 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: you know Double seven James Bond movies where you know 115 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: they're in this situation. Just put your head down and 116 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: keep it right down, you know, which is what I did. 117 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: And the train eventually moved on. Did you did you 118 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: ever pass out? No? I didn't. Do you stayed away? 119 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: And then how did you finally get out of this situation? Well, 120 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: basically the train moved on and I was just left 121 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: line down there in between the rails, you know, and 122 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 1: you basically disengage from the train. Yeah, oh my god, 123 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: like like the cult ripped away or something like that. Yeah, 124 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: it ripped as I fell down. As I said that, 125 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: when I saw that, when I first went down and 126 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: was pulled right under. I think the sheer fource then 127 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: ripped the coat. I just remember hearing this tremendous ripping down. 128 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: I went, you know, so, um, yeah, so the train, 129 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: the train finally passes you, right, I guess that's right. Yeah, 130 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: And then there you are in the tracks, just laying there. Yeah, 131 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: I'm just lying there on the track. And then I 132 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: just remember looking up and seeing like the sheer blue 133 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: sky above me. And this is the contrast of the 134 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: hell and darkness I've just been through and lying on 135 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: the early tracks and seeing this beautiful blue sky. I 136 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: was just like, wow, hello, now physically, you know, physically, 137 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: what had happened to you? I mean, did you still 138 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: have your legs and stuff like that? Yeah, well, my 139 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: left was actually severed from the elbow down, so that's 140 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: like the first thing I noticed. So yeah, I just 141 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: noticed that this fine thick coat that I got on 142 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: was now streaded and the whole arm was just completely 143 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: ripped open. And also, you know, and I realized at 144 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: that point that my left arm had been completely you know, 145 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: it was I was in a bad way. There was 146 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: It was pretty messy. It was incredible because obviously I 147 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: was I was in shock, you know and stuff. And 148 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: the first thing I thought of, right, let me get 149 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: my cell phone out and phone my sister to let 150 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,439 Speaker 1: her know what's happened. It's just you were you were 151 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: that you were that cognizant of making a phone call. Yeah, 152 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: well yeah, but I kind of not, you know, because 153 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: that's what I figured I should do. But I obviously 154 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: that was a crazy thing to think be thinking of. 155 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 1: You know, I pulled the phone out and it was 156 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: and it was smashed anyhow. But by that time help 157 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: had arrived, like literally been in seconds, you know, and 158 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: you know, then they the paramedics are right, and these 159 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: guys are incredible. They just they all they managed to 160 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: get me after track eventually and then up onto the platform, 161 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: which is about you know, six or seven foot up 162 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: in height. And yeah, so that was a very bad 163 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: process just getting me off the track. You know, did 164 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: they ever did they ever find your armed? I mean, 165 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: were they ever able? Yeah? The arm store there, Yeah, 166 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: it hadn't. It wasn't. Everything was was within this store. 167 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: In fact, the surgeons at the hospital. That's one of 168 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: the things I begged them to do. When they pulled 169 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: me in, I said, look, can you please save my 170 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: left arm, and and they did. I mean, it's it's 171 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: they managed to sew it back on and so you've 172 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: got your left arm. Is it functional, it's it's it's 173 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: fairly functional, not completely, but you know, it's pretty good. 174 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's amazing what they can do. 175 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: I mean, this was, this was like three very long, 176 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: eight hour operations to to be able to save it. 177 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: And oh my god. Now what point, David, did you 178 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: have the near death experience? Okay, well, basically what that was, 179 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: I was, you know, they got me in an ambulance 180 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: and they sped me down the highway and I went 181 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: into a hospital. I went to Adambrook Hospital, which is 182 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: like a big university hospital in Cambridge. So I was 183 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: lucky that we got this hospital there. So I arrived 184 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: and there was I remember going into the emergency department 185 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: and there was like a I remember seeing this big, 186 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: huge semicircle of doctors and consultants and nurses waiting for me. 187 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: So this whole team we're like racing around trying to 188 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: save me. I was losing copious amounts of blood at 189 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: that point, and it was when I was actually in 190 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: the in the emergency department, that I was lying on 191 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: the trolley with all this frantic noise going on around me, 192 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 1: that I suddenly left, well, I was in agony as 193 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: well as I left that whole moment, have been in pain, 194 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: and all the bright lights shining my eyes to a 195 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: completely dark and warm place, and all the pain had gone. 196 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: And I was lying in what I thought was just 197 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: like a really dark, beautiful, warm room. And I could 198 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: see at first, like these pulsating colors all around me. 199 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: They were just kind of like a little they were 200 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: like orbs of light which were just slowly pulsating, and 201 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: it was just calming me. And I just thought, wow, 202 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: this is just like beautiful. What a contrast from the 203 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: hell I'd just been through. And and I lay there 204 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 1: and then I I suddenly felt a presence and I 205 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 1: looked at my feet, and just at my right hand foot, 206 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: I saw what was this I could only describe as 207 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: this beautiful and drogginess being like a like a beautiful 208 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: sort of person with like blonde white hair and like 209 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: glowing skin, and this this person has just like stood 210 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: there smiling at me with a knowing smile. This and 211 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: I thought, it's like I'd known this, this androidgynus being 212 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: the whole of my life and beyond. You know. It 213 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: was like, um, there was a strong connection there, and 214 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: I just felt that this person was watching over me 215 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: and guarding me. So I figured at this point that 216 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: this is it, you know, that I'd died and this 217 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: is I'd gone on to the next stage, and did 218 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: you want to come back? No. At that point I 219 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: thought this is great. I just said, I had no 220 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: sense of panic or fear that this is death. It 221 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: was actually I I went with it completely and thought, well, 222 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: and this is this is great because I felt so 223 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: calm and so the interesting thing as well, this being 224 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: was wearing like a like a just like a black 225 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 1: T shirt, like a sort of you know, very contemporary 226 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: sort of shirt, and nothing sort of ethereal. So so 227 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: it felt like, you know, there was a sense sort 228 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: of knowing between us, and like like some you know, 229 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: when you meet somebody, say at a party that you've 230 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: and you connect straight away and you feel like you've 231 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: known this person or your life. It was a bit 232 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: like but by times by ten, you know, or more so, 233 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: I laid I laid my head back at that point, 234 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: and I suddenly realized that I was lying on on 235 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: a huge kind of like slate rock, like a like 236 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: a medieval altar, if you like, and it was just 237 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: like I thought, but it was very comfortable, and I 238 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 1: laid back and I looked down to check my injuries, 239 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: to look at my body to see how it was 240 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: all looking, and everything was fixed. My whole body was 241 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: completely intact, you know, my left arm, there was no 242 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: scars or bruising, and I was covered in this light 243 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: blue sheet and the blue sheet was kind of like 244 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: a like a like a satin sort of silky texture 245 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: to it, and it was just keeping me very cool 246 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: and calm from the relaxed. Then I laid my head 247 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: back onto the rock, and as I looked up, there 248 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: were like three grids of white light that were like 249 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: just slowly hovering above my head. And I couldn't take 250 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: my gaze away from from these grids of light because 251 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: the light that was coming from them was just like 252 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: a pure white light and it was just it's it 253 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: was very bright lights, but it Normally I wouldn't be 254 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: able to look into something so bright, like sunlight or 255 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: electric light that bright, but this I could, and and 256 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: I just couldn't take my gaze away because it was 257 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: like a healing sort of light at the sensation was 258 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: just so very comforting, and so I just figured, well, 259 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: what is going on here? You know? This is like 260 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: I felt felt like I was being prepared for something. 261 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: And this is still when you're physically in the ambulance. No, no, no, 262 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: this is this is this is at this stage I 263 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: was actually in the hospital. Yeah, I was in the hospital, 264 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: and so I'm looking up at these these bright white lights, 265 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: these grids, and then I suddenly realized that there were 266 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: two other beings with me either side of me, and 267 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: a female form um. One of them was sort of 268 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: like an Asian or American sort of Indian appearance, and 269 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: the other one was a white Cohesian and they both 270 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: had their their hands kind of hovering over my body 271 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: and they were like healing healing me really almost like 272 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: a raiky healing sort of form, and but the energy 273 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: that was coming from their hands was just like really powerful. 274 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: It was like it was like this sense sensation of 275 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: almost like love. It was like like a very intense 276 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: form of love that was just coming from the all 277 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: three of these beings basically, and it was like an 278 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: energy that was just going right through my body that 279 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: every every single molecule of me was kind of almost 280 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: vibrating with this beautiful sensation. And well physically, how long 281 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: were you out? Were you in a comma? Nothing like that. 282 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: I wasn't in a coma at all while this was happening. 283 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: But you know, back in on the earth plane, if 284 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: you like, I was still conscious. But this is this 285 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: is the actual near death experience itself. M you know, 286 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: this is a different plane altogether from from being in 287 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: a state of coma, you know. And this NDE that 288 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: you had, David, was I was a one time NDE? 289 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: Or did you fall back into it and die again 290 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: and come back or was it just one time? No? No, 291 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: I stayed I stayed in in in the end, and 292 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: that was it. You know, it continued on and I 293 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: was still there at this at this stage. Yeah. So um, 294 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: because your your pictures, your artwork, they're remarkable and it's gorgeous. 295 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: The other side must look good. Huh what sorry, the 296 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: other side must look pretty good. It's amazing. It's a 297 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: beautiful sight to see. I mean, I mean the next 298 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: thing that I saw while while I was there, which 299 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: which is in one of my paintings, is well, basically, well, 300 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: as I was lying on the huge rock, I figured 301 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: that my hospital my family were still down in the 302 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: hospital because they'd all rushed in to see me, and 303 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: I thought, well, they must be grieving over my dead 304 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 1: body right now, because I was figured that I was dead, 305 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 1: and so I looked over the edge of this big, 306 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: huge rock hoping to see them, And as I looked down, 307 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: I didn't see them at all in the hospital. But 308 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: what I did see, it's like the beautiful waterfalls as stars. 309 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 1: It's like a huge, huge arc of stars that was 310 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: just kind of cascading down into into Ganic, into other 311 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: into into the infinity basically, and it was just like 312 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 1: a beautiful site, and there was lots of deep colors 313 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: within in the base of this infinity, and I thought, wow, 314 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: this is amazing. And of course I knew by then 315 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: that I wasn't in this small darken room that I 316 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: figured that I was actually in the universe itself, and 317 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: so it was really quite tremendous. 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