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Speaker 1: Interception, the latest news and notes from the insiders who

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Speaker 3: Touchdown Tyler Murray.

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Speaker 2: That defender is in multiple pieces.

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Speaker 4: Oh that was nasty, right there.

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Speaker 3: Rights slam the ground by fooda baker like a torpedo.

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Speaker 3: He came flying into the backfield.

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Speaker 2: I ain't scared of nobody.

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul calvic.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 2: So if you work really hard on this episode of

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Speaker 2: Cardinals Underground, I'm talking no, you display winning behavior throughout

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Speaker 2: and you execute Danny, then something might happen here today.

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Speaker 2: That happened at the end of the week to win

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Speaker 2: against the La Rams. Just like Jonathan Gannon clicked into

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Speaker 2: the headset of Drew pets In and said, Hey, good

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Speaker 2: job our Jim A Mahundro might click into your headset

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Speaker 2: here and passed along a similar sentiment because it's not

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Speaker 2: coming from me, okay, because there's still a lot of

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Speaker 2: room for improvement each and every week here Cardinals Underground,

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Speaker 2: maybe from the play call, you might you might get

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Speaker 5: That was an impressive amount of coach speak and one intro.

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Speaker 4: I was just gonna say that Paul has always always

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's because we just got the TV studio recording

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Speaker 2: the coach's TV show. Maybe I'm in that you know

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Speaker 4: Fornacular too much lower to be honest.

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Speaker 2: Lexicon, Wow, that was a failed shot over here. And

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Speaker 2: dominative Americans who, by my count, let's see guys under

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Speaker 2: six feet tall, dominated on both sides of the ball

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Speaker 2: in their beat down la that happened in week two?

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Speaker 2: Did they not?

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Speaker 4: They did? I have to say that it's funny every

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Speaker 4: of against the Giants last year was about as good

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Speaker 4: a football as I've ever seen a Cardinals team play.

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Speaker 2: In one half, and then what happened in that Giants game?

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Speaker 4: Nothing good. Yeah, So that.

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Speaker 2: Giants game last year was like the Buffalo game in

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Speaker 4: I feel like, I feel like the Giants game was

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Speaker 2: But both those games were either so last year or

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Speaker 2: My point is the whole saying that we have bigger

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Speaker 2: And we're gonna go through all this here.

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Speaker 4: On this before we get started with Paul, are you

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Speaker 4: in mourning?

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Speaker 2: Okay, You're gonna have to narrow that down. There's a

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Speaker 4: but Paul, you're you're always those of the grindstone. Did

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Speaker 4: you notice that Marquise Hayes is no longer a card.

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Speaker 2: I'm being set up here. No, that's not true. That's

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Speaker 2: Sure he wasn't claimed by another team and made an

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm never gonna say never. Marquise Hayes might

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, junk was down on the sideline. I'm like, dude,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so it wasn't a Missouri dance thing.

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Speaker 4: Whatever, It's okay.

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Speaker 4: See, I knew this was going to be a problem.

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Speaker 2: I was not aware I was going to get ear

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Speaker 2: going to revisit the term Honolulu blue print. How about that.

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Speaker 2: We'll get into that. That is so Paul Calvi wise

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Speaker 4: Football players all over that trivia, Paul.

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Speaker 2: Dan Campbell comps to and that's not us. That's a

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Speaker 2: Paul, Oh again, I'm being set up. See every time,

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Speaker 2: you guys, these are compliments. No, why don't you take

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Speaker 2: It's always followed up by bad news. That's what happens

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Speaker 4: We care about your feelings, Paul.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So, by the way, if you want

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Speaker 2: I'm foreshadowing my powerpole a little bit later. So all right,

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Speaker 4: You know it's funny. I would have agreed before this morning,

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Speaker 2: Was not a running quarter It was not a running quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Now, I wouldn't have remembered it if it hadn't been

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Speaker 2: I'm just but has Kyler even thrown Knockunwood a pass

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Speaker 5: This was a perfect outing to see the decision making

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Speaker 5: Kyler Murray finished seventeen of twenty one, two hundred and

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Speaker 4: like the fifty nine yards rushing pall, Like, is there

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Speaker 4: the perfect PASSIERATI didn't feel like it justified. It showed

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Speaker 2: That's a valid observation because what did we hear at

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Speaker 2: We need a stat like just how many forget how

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Speaker 2: I can't believe I'm saying this. More math, more analytics,

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Speaker 2: Kyler covers on a game to game basis, sort of

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Speaker 4: It's it's interesting to me, though, how much how much

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Speaker 2: And so so I share this with Craig Rielou and

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Speaker 2: I can report that one of Kyler's chunk runs this

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Speaker 2: Right once once you go back, wow, that's a shot.

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Speaker 2: That's a that's a low key shot at Craig Griler

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Speaker 2: And there were people in the media in this town

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Speaker 4: Yes, they did.

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Speaker 2: Then we found out later because like Kurt Warner and

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Speaker 2: Guess what it was on the receivers, as we found

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Speaker 2: out later. Well, again, you don't even know how often

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Speaker 2: and Kyler's covering yet still able to excute, still able

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Speaker 2: to have a perfect passer rating. But beyond that, guys,

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Speaker 2: I wrote down three questions.

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Speaker 4: Wait, shouldn't this be in the trivia?

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Speaker 2: Maybe? No, no, no, this is about the Cardinals offense.

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Speaker 2: You know, none of the farcical, you know, nonsensical wise

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Speaker 2: a little bit later. First, I have to pose the

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Speaker 2: whole offseason. I think we got the answer, did we not?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, nearly five hundred total y'alls arts out there

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Speaker 2: What happens when Kyler is able to keep a defense

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Speaker 5: It goes back to the decision making. It goes back

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Speaker 5: So when you have that, and you have an offensive

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Speaker 5: extend the play with his legs, they were also creating

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Speaker 5: some huge gaps. While they look huge from the press box,

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Speaker 5: I'm sure it's different when you're James Connor and you're

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Speaker 4: I love the point you just made about how the

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Speaker 4: The fact they weren't getting flags, I think that is

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Speaker 4: there was a lot of people whining, quite frankly about

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Speaker 4: a great situation in Buffalo having to come in. I

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Speaker 4: But I thought Calvin Beacham in the entire line played

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Speaker 2: Just the fact to your point, Danny, in that stat

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Speaker 2: I mean, look at his four completions to Marvin Harrison, right,

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Speaker 4: Now, he's gonna be pretty good. If Marvin Harrison can

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Speaker 2: By the way, in the sixty yard touchdown, to hear

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Speaker 4: If you watch the play, it looks like the original

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Speaker 5: And his hands are so and how about the fumble

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Speaker 4: What happened? What happened on that play because I'm watching

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Speaker 2: He got jacked from behind by ninety two, a big

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Speaker 4: The ball wasn't punched Connor was.

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Speaker 2: It was a jarring hit. There's there's no doubt about it.

439
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Speaker 2: But I mean, you look at this Cardinals offense right

440
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Speaker 2: and then to see Daniel Laowski right after the game

441
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,720
Speaker 2: tweet out Kyler Murray's tape today top five player in

442
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,600
Speaker 2: the league tape and tweet Daniel Rolowski. I think that's

443
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Speaker 2: where it started. That's where the narrators started. Was it

444
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Speaker 2: the best game Kyler's ever played in the NFL?

445
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Speaker 4: Kirk Benkert, I think his name is. He's a kind

446
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 4: of he was a journeyman quarterback at one point. He's

447
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,920
Speaker 4: on Twitter now and doing analysis. He tweeted out his

448
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Speaker 4: quarterback power rankings after two weeks in the NFL Okay

449
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Speaker 4: number one Kyler Murray.

450
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Speaker 2: Wow, look at that. Look at that and to think

451
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Speaker 2: that there was a preseason CBS poll it was in

452
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Speaker 2: June that had the top ten quarterbacks and Anthony Richardson

453
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Speaker 2: was eighth and Kyler was like seventeenth. Elderson's Yeah, but look,

454
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Speaker 2: it's the entire offense against the Rams, not only did

455
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Speaker 2: the Cardinals outplay the Rams? I think they out coached him.

456
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 2: When you have twelve tackles for loss as a defense,

457
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Speaker 2: when the rushing is two thirty one to fifty three,

458
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:55,679
Speaker 2: when you have twenty four first downs, when the Cardinals

459
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,159
Speaker 2: come out with five sacks, it was both sides of

460
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Speaker 2: the ball. I just thought on third downs, Cardinals always

461
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 2: had an answer defensively. You know, whether it was a sack,

462
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Speaker 2: whether it was Budda Baker shooting the gap. They just

463
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Speaker 2: looked like they knew what was coming. I don't know

464
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Speaker 2: if Nick Rolis studied that Sean mcvay's scheme the entirety

465
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Speaker 2: of the offseason, but it sure looked like it because

466
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 2: the Cardinals weren't fooled by much.

467
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Speaker 5: The Cardinals defense played a sound game across the board.

468
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 5: Cooper Cupp left the game after the first half. He

469
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Speaker 5: was out with an ankle injury, and on his six targets,

470
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Speaker 5: he had four receptions for thirty seven yards, which, even

471
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Speaker 5: when he was playing in that first half, the Cardinals

472
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Speaker 5: eliminated him as their top receiver. Now, Matthew Stafford didn't

473
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Speaker 5: really have many other options to throw to because they

474
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Speaker 5: were already without wide receiver Puka and Nakua, and they

475
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Speaker 5: were dealing with some offensive line injuries. That's the name

476
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Speaker 5: of the game, and the Cardinals were able to take

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Speaker 5: advantage of the weak spots that that Rams offense presented,

478
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Speaker 5: especially when you've got a pocket passer like Stafford that

479
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Speaker 5: you know isn't really gonna escape the pocket. I thought

480
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Speaker 5: that there was good coverage in the secondary. Buddha Baker

481
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Speaker 5: had a phenomenal game.

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 5: It was a nice reminder of how strong and physical

484
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Speaker 5: he is in the open field. With those tackles he

485
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 5: he's essentially single handedly prevented a first down. He was

486
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,360
Speaker 5: behind the receiver, wrapped up around him and pulled him

487
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 5: backwards so that he didn't go past that down marker.

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Speaker 5: It was a really nice showing by the defense, and

489
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,159
Speaker 5: the fact that the pass rush was active and they

490
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Speaker 5: were able to get into get back there and disrupt

491
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Speaker 5: Matthew Stafford was nice to see.

492
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Speaker 4: I'm sure Dennis Gardock loved getting three sacks in front

493
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Speaker 4: of his best bud, Marcus Golden.

494
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Speaker 2: Two.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he hit the He hit Marcus Golden's sax celebration

496
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Speaker 5: that first one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Saint Louis Stomps Saint Louis stomp. Gotcha, do you

498
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 2: used to do that in college? Danny at Massoo? Did

499
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Speaker 2: you do that?

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Speaker 5: I didn't go to school Saint Louis.

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Speaker 2: Oh, okay, I just you know, I didn't know if

502
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Speaker 2: there was like carryover, you know, into the you know, the.

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Speaker 4: Hole, the Dallas stump.

504
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Speaker 5: I didn't go to school in Dallas either.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, but you're from Dallas.

506
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Speaker 5: No, there's no Dallas. There's no Columbia, Missouri stomp, no

507
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Speaker 5: Dallas dance.

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Speaker 2: The best part about you can chime in, Brian if

509
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 2: you want to. Whether it's Dennis Gardak, or whether it's

510
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 2: Zaven Collins, whether it's you know, hit the strobe or

511
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 2: the whole Lasso dance, the entire sideline gets into it.

512
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 2: I likened it too, eating yourself. It's like a line dance.

513
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Speaker 4: I want to see that.

514
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's the electric slide at a wedding.

515
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 2: Everyone's out there on the dance floor. The whole sideline

516
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 2: gets into it. It's good stuff. I mean, Gardick even

517
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 2: waited for that one celebration. He waited one one thousand

518
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Speaker 2: and two one thousand. Are you looking at me? Make

519
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 2: an eye contact with the whole sideline, let's go now,

520
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 2: and he'd like he synked it up. I'm like, what,

521
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,360
Speaker 2: he's a choreographer out there, what's going on at this point?

522
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Speaker 4: It's all about fun.

523
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,679
Speaker 2: So that's uh. That was good stuff, but not as

524
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 2: good as as My favorite moment of the game came

525
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 2: from the postgame, and it with Sean McVay saying, and

526
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Speaker 2: I quote, there's not anything positive I take from today.

527
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:59,120
Speaker 2: It was an incredibly humbling three hour window. So that's

528
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 2: been a long time, even a three hour window. I

529
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 2: loved how fast that game went, too, was it nine?

530
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Speaker 4: Yeah? I misspoke earlier on a podcast and said the

531
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Speaker 4: NFL would never let a game go less than three hours.

532
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Speaker 4: Didn't have much of a choice.

533
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Speaker 2: Daron, that was me. You owe me an apology. I said,

534
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Speaker 2: the run game is gonna be so prevalent. This game

535
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 2: is gonna go like two. Funny how you forgot who

536
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 2: exactly We have a.

537
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Speaker 4: Regular listener who pointed out to me that he was

538
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Speaker 4: thinking the same thing when you said that, and then

539
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Speaker 4: when I corrected you and said, they'd.

540
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Speaker 2: Never exactly do that. Okay, funny how.

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Speaker 4: That works over there, speaking of time.

542
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Speaker 2: But that's that's the underestimated thing about I believe about

543
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 2: the NFC West. You got to deal with Kyle Shanahan,

544
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 2: You have to deal with Sean McVay. Both top five

545
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,679
Speaker 2: coaches in the NFL just got done with coach double rainbow.

546
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll called it a career, but the whole Pete

547
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 2: Carroll culture up there was very effective for a long time,

548
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 2: as much as it grudges us to say it. And

549
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 2: now looks like they got a pretty good young guy

550
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 2: and Mike McDonald. I mean, you better have a top

551
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 2: notch coaching staff to compete in the NFC. And this

552
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 2: is just from the outside looking in. I think the

553
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 2: Cardinals two coordinators have taken the leap that Jonathan Gannon

554
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 2: said he took from year one to year two as

555
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 2: a DC in Philly. It looks to me like Drew

556
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 2: Petsing and Nick Rowsis have done the same thing. I mean,

557
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 2: Drew Petsing his ability even from week one to week two,

558
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 2: the effectiveness of Marvin Harrison Junior. He definitely had Chris

559
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,479
Speaker 2: Schule in that Rams defense on their heels the entirety

560
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Speaker 2: of the game.

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Speaker 5: I thought, I think that's why this Lions game is

562
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Speaker 5: going to be a very good measuring stick for this

563
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 5: Cardinals defense. Not to minimize or take away from the

564
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 5: performance against the Rams. They were dealing with injuries, and

565
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Speaker 5: again you've got an older quarterback who, yes, is accurate

566
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 5: and has the power and the strength, is not mobile.

567
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 5: This Lion's offense, Golf is not the most mobile quarterback right,

568
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 5: but a little more so than Stafford. And Detroit is

569
00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 5: very balanced. That is another violent, physical team. So I

570
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 5: think that this matchup Detroit's offense against the Cardinals defense

571
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 5: is going to be a good measuring stick when you're

572
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 5: looking at divisional opponents in the NFC West and talking

573
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Speaker 5: about the Seahawks, talking about the forty nine ers and

574
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Speaker 5: what those offenses look like as well.

575
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Speaker 2: All right here, it is our key to the game.

576
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Speaker 2: I know it might be a little premature, but the

577
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Speaker 2: unquestioned key to the game this week has to be

578
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 2: that Lions offensive line something gets the number one offensive

579
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 2: line in the league trying to keep the pressure off Jerg.

580
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Speaker 2: Go off to your point, Danny. His passer rating last

581
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 2: week under pressure thirty five. He was miserable. That's when

582
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 2: his two picks came. Nearly had two other ones. And

583
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 2: he's a lot like Matthew Stafford. If you can affect him,

584
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 2: you can beat him. So we'll see. But maybe that's

585
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 2: a little bit captain obvious, So maybe I should save

586
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Speaker 2: myself from that. And do I understand It's halftime and

587
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 2: it's time for a little competition. My time to shine,

588
00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 2: all right, Danny, here we go in three two one, It's.

589
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: Time for the wise Guy, the World's Fastest Growing Cardinals

590
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: Quiz Show. The steaks are low, the winner gets absolutely nothing.

591
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 2: Here's your hostess with the mostess. Denny's sir, right, thank you,

592
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 2: thank you, thank you everybody.

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Speaker 5: Since Paul got the first question last week, I feel

594
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Speaker 5: like we should switch the opportunity to mister Darren Urban.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 2: I'm staring Darren down.

597
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 4: He's not a pressure.

598
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 2: Darren's not making eye contact when there's like two fighters

599
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 2: right before the opening bell and he's not making eye

600
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Speaker 2: contact with me. I think I'm I have the mental

601
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 2: edge right now.

602
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 4: Did you see the Cardinals MMA fighter.

603
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Speaker 2: Sugar Sugar Sean, Yeah, sugar Sean, he just had surgery.

604
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 4: Yeah he's it didn't go well.

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Speaker 5: I don't know why you feeling pressure. Paul was not

606
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Speaker 5: good at this last week.

607
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 4: That's true.

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Speaker 5: Okay, here we go. First question, Darren, Yes, and Juan

609
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 5: Bolden had ten catches for two hundred and seventeen yards

610
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 5: and two touchdowns in his NFL debut against the Lions.

611
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 2: Is not fair? Darren was actually there for that game.

612
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 5: Who started at quarterback and running back for the Cardinals

613
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 5: in that game? Both answers have to be correct.

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Speaker 4: Oh well, I'm gonna go at quarterback. We're going to

615
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 4: have the man who said it's not like I played

616
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 4: bad ball. I've only been on bad teams. Jeff Blake.

617
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Speaker 2: That's a great cool and running back in two.

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Speaker 4: Thousand and three. That should have been Emmett Smith.

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Speaker 2: Both are correct, Oh my goodness. I mean honestly it was.

620
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Speaker 2: You know, it's just handed him a lay up. I

621
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Speaker 2: mean right, let's go.

622
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Speaker 4: That was a great.

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Speaker 5: Carry, go ball.

624
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Speaker 2: Ask me about a game I was at.

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Speaker 5: Okay, here we go. In the late nineteen sixties, a movie,

626
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Speaker 5: here we go, Here we Go, a movie called Paper

627
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 5: Lion was filmed and released.

628
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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm being profiled right now, here we go.

629
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Speaker 5: I gotta get through this. It depicted an author's tryout

630
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 5: with the Detroit.

631
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 2: Lion Alan Alda. That was the action ball Several.

632
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Speaker 5: Scenes from the film were recorded during a nineteen teen

633
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 5: sixty seven preseason game against the Cardinals in Saint Louis.

634
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Speaker 5: Name the author and the actor in the film.

635
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, well I just named Alan Alda was

636
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Speaker 2: the was the actor?

637
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 4: That's right?

638
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 2: The author? Oh my goodness. This is part of my childhood.

639
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 2: There were two names, and my dad would always talk

640
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 2: about it would be Bobby Lane nineteen fifty seven Lions

641
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 2: NFL Championship and then the whole paper Lion thing. And

642
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Speaker 2: the author and I want to say his first name

643
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 2: was Peter and I can't remember.

644
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 4: George Plimpton, yes, Georgeton.

645
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 5: And fun fact, former Cardinals trainer John Omahan, Joe so

646
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 5: Almos's dad was an extra in the film and wore

647
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 5: a full lines uniform for scenes shot post game.

648
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Speaker 4: I did not know that fantastic.

649
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 2: That is outstanding.

650
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Speaker 5: So Darren gets the point because he stole it and

651
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 5: got it correctly. So to nothing.

652
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 2: Wow, this is insurmountable. I think at this point, right,

653
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Speaker 2: that's just cool. Let's play it out. I'm playing for Pride.

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00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 5: Let's go there, we go, Okay, dren Co Pride, you

655
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 5: have just close in Kyler Murray's twenty nineteen NFL debut,

656
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 5: The Cardinals and Lions played to a twenty seven to

657
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Speaker 5: twenty seven tie. Which former Lion and current member of

658
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 5: the Cardinals scored the points that tied the game late

659
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Speaker 5: in the fourth quarter?

660
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 4: Derek Cannard, Did I miss it?

661
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 5: Wait a minute, where's our where's our? Ex buzzer sound yep? Incorrect? Paul,

662
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 5: you get a chance to steal repeat the end.

663
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Speaker 2: Of the question in what current Cardinals?

664
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Speaker 5: Which former Lion and current member of the Cardinals scored

665
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Speaker 5: the points that tied the game late in the fourth quarter?

666
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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, that's why I was a little thrown. Okay,

667
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 2: tie the game in the fourth quarter? Wow, Okay, let's see. Okay,

668
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 2: Evan Brown he played for the Lions.

669
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Speaker 5: Maybe Matt Carter.

670
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Speaker 2: Maybe for some.

671
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Speaker 4: Reason, I didn't I didn't think current. That was my bad.

672
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Speaker 5: Here we go, Paul, you're gonna like this question. Wait,

673
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 5: We're just gonna We're gonna keep playing just because we

674
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 5: don't get to play the lines often.

675
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 4: That's true.

676
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 5: Okay, here we go, Paul. Lions four time Pro Bowl

677
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 5: defensive tackle Alex Carris got into acting after his football

678
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 5: career ended, playing parts in projects like the Mary Tyler

679
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 5: Moore show Blazing Saddles. Can I finish my question? Blazing Saddles,

680
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 5: thank you. But in the eighties he found success playing

681
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 5: George Pappadopolis alongside Emmanuel Lewis and this hit TV sitcom

682
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 5: See You Jump the Gun.

683
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 4: And I had a feeling this is where it was going.

684
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Speaker 2: Mongo only pawn in Game of Life. That's his famous

685
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 2: quote from Blazing Saddles. Yes, and it's buying me time. Yes,

686
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 2: to come up with absolutely nothing. I don't watch a

687
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 2: lot of sitcoms.

688
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 4: Webster correct, So.

689
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 5: Darren is two and zero and wise Guy, thanks for

690
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 5: playing Everybody once again?

691
00:33:56,160 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 2: Another Everybody TV Land edition a wise Guy I started

692
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 2: watching TV. Yes, I need, I need to waste more

693
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 2: time on a frivolous, meaningless, worthless TV. That's the I

694
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 2: did born there? Yes, you were born there, born there?

695
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 4: I did not know that.

696
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 2: Detroit, Michigan.

697
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 4: Yes, how long did you live there?

698
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 2: Until I was third grade? And then boom?

699
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 4: I lived there until kindergarten? Gotcha, but all my family

700
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 4: was still back there, so I went back there every

701
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 4: other year.

702
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 2: Remember Larry Foote we had in here. Yes, uh, he

703
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 2: was incredulous. He did not believe either one of us

704
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 2: was from Detroit, like I think I remember that. I

705
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 2: did not believe that at all. Yes, he didn't believe that.

706
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 2: So anyway, Yes, and my wife is from the d

707
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 2: the three one three. So you know, maybe I should

708
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 2: have brought in some Stros beer or the Saunders hot fudge.

709
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,760
Speaker 2: Maybe there's Burners Fago redpop. You know, all the above.

710
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 2: Should have brought all that. Yes, no doubt about it.

711
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 2: So uh, what what is coming in though that you

712
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 2: need to figure out an answer to. Is not only

713
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 2: Aiden Hutchinson, who we talked about with the four and

714
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 2: a half sacks and right the five quarterback hits, He's

715
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 2: a problem. In fact, Todd Bowles after the game said, yeah,

716
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 2: he made our life miserable. We tried anything and everything

717
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 2: and we couldn't stop him. And that was Todd Bowles,

718
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 2: even though Tampa got the win. Here's my question about

719
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:22,439
Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions Arizona Cardinals. In Week three we talked

720
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 2: about this Honolulu blueprint in the offseason, did we not?

721
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 2: If you say so, Paul if Darren as I look

722
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 2: past the snark. If you can nail the GM and

723
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 2: head coach position, then you know what you can turn

724
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 2: around any situation. The Lions just won their first playoff

725
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 2: games since Barry Sanders three decades ago. They won the

726
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: only postseason where they've won two playoff games since they

727
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 2: won the NFL title Bobby Lane nineteen fifty seven. But

728
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 2: they nailed it with the head coach and the gm

729
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,760
Speaker 2: Brad Holmes. And there are at least two former Lions

730
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 2: to go back to your trivia, Danny, two former Lions

731
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 2: who have played for the Cardinals in the last two years.

732
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 2: Josh Woods last year, Evan Brown this year, who we

733
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 2: had on the Big Red Rage and we asked him,

734
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 2: do you see similarities parallels between Jonathan Gannon and Dan

735
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:18,439
Speaker 2: Campbell cut us off mid question and gave a resounding yes.

736
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 2: Just with their energy, the you know, the physicality and

737
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 2: violence that they preach, you know, being mentally tough and

738
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 2: mentally buttoned up, and just the accountability they bring on

739
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 2: all levels. And it's just an interesting comparison. And I'll

740
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 2: bring it into the present day like this. In his

741
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 2: second year a year ago it was twenty two, actually

742
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 2: second year for Dan Campbell. They started one and six,

743
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 2: a lot of noise, a lot of heat, a lot

744
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 2: of pressure, and then they won eight of the last ten,

745
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 2: barely missed the playoffs, and we all know what happened

746
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 2: last year they made a run to the NFC Championship.

747
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 2: My question to you, win it hits, when it turns right,

748
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 2: you know it. Do you think that win against the

749
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:11,760
Speaker 2: Rams just mark the turn just marked the pivot point

750
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 2: for the Arizona Cardinals like it did in the second

751
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 2: half of twenty twenty two for the Lions and Dan Campbell.

752
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 5: It's hard after talking about how good of a performance

753
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 5: that was, but I don't know that that's the game

754
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 5: I would say that. I think I would even go

755
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 5: back to last season and maybe look at the game

756
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 5: in Philadelphia and beating the Eagles at home. I think

757
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,919
Speaker 5: that was a very good showing of what was to come,

758
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 5: what we had already seen in terms of the competitiveness

759
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 5: and the violence and the motor and the passion that

760
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 5: this team was going to have moving forward when you

761
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 5: have a general manager a Manias for and head coach

762
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 5: and Jonathan Gannon. While this game, the win against the Rams,

763
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Speaker 5: I think showed a lot of what this team can

764
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 5: look like when they are rolling on all cylinders. If

765
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 5: you're talking about the culture and things changing. I would

766
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 5: even go back to Dan's first year last season and

767
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 5: at the end and despite only being a four win team,

768
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 5: being as competitive as they were, I feel like.

769
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Speaker 2: The only thing I would say about that if you're

770
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 2: buying time is just, yeah, you went into Pittsburgh. Yeah

771
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 2: you went into Philly. But like, the first half against

772
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 2: the Eagles was poor, and then they had a ridiculous

773
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Speaker 2: second half. But it was also a reeling Eagles team

774
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Speaker 2: that lost five of the last six down the stretch.

775
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Speaker 4: The Rams are pretty reeling right now.

776
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Speaker 5: I just if you're gonna talk about but this was a.

777
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Speaker 2: Turning point from it n scene, I guess this week

778
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 2: to me, I just.

779
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 5: Feel like you had already been convinced in terms of

780
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 5: the culture and the change and hitting a home run

781
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 5: with your coach and GM before the season even started.

782
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Speaker 4: As a quick aside, we have a somebody that works

783
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Speaker 4: with us who monitors Philadelphia Sports radio, especially after an

784
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,439
Speaker 4: Eagles game. And did you know that the Monday night game,

785
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 4: the Monday night game where the Eagles just lost a

786
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 4: home to the Falcons in painful fashion.

787
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:03,240
Speaker 2: All painful.

788
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 4: That's the first home game they've had since the Cardinals

789
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 4: went there and beat them last year at OHS and

790
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 4: somebody made come into that apparently on WIP after the game,

791
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 4: was like, wait, the last time, the last time you

792
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 4: come here for the fans, you lay an egg and

793
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 4: lose to Jonathan Gannon, and then you open up this

794
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 4: year and do that. What is that about? I thought

795
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 4: that was funny. I'm not willing to go all the

796
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 4: way and say that this has changes everything basically because

797
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 4: of where the Rams are right now. But I think

798
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 4: when you look at the landscape of the NFC right

799
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Speaker 4: now and how the Cardinals are set up, and where

800
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 4: some of these other teams are, and the forty nine

801
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 4: ers have some injuries, and maybe some other teams the

802
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 4: Eagles aren't playing as well as people thought they might.

803
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 4: I mean, I think the Cardinals are going to be

804
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 4: a very very dangerous team, especially if they can click

805
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 4: like that on offense. I don't see them holding a

806
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 4: bunch of teams to ten points. But I do think

807
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 4: this offense has a real real ability here to do

808
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,919
Speaker 4: the things that they did on Sunday, and if.

809
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 2: They dominate the football like thirty seven minutes worth the

810
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 2: time of possession almost and then then you know, guess

811
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 2: what your defense is put in a lot better position.

812
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 4: The Lions are coming off a loss and only had

813
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 4: sixteen points, but they did have over four hundred yards offense, so.

814
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Speaker 2: They were miserable in the red zone. One for seven

815
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:25,439
Speaker 2: in the red zone.

816
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 4: Is that Is that something your defense can do like

817
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 4: the Buccaneers did.

818
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Speaker 2: By the way, Dan Campbell on the Arizona Cardinals on

819
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 2: his Monday press conference asked about that Jack stomping and

820
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,280
Speaker 2: the Rams quote. That ended up being a lopsided score.

821
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 2: But that's the nature of the way that team plays.

822
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 2: They are tricky on both sides of the ball. They

823
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 2: do a lot of things that are not orthodox. Interesting.

824
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 2: I asked KVB about that, Kyle Vannerbosch. They said, translate

825
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 2: that unorthodox. You talked about the personnel groups. Just you know,

826
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,439
Speaker 2: what is the identity on offense because there's so many

827
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 2: different things over the course of the same game. He said,

828
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 2: you know some of the unsound defensive fronts the Cardinals

829
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 2: like to especially on third down third no obvious. They'll

830
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 2: dial a lot of different things up. You know, Buddha

831
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 2: Baker can be any different position. Mac Wilson Senior, we

832
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 2: saw a whole bunch of different spots, almost like a

833
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 2: spy on Kyron Williams at a time at times in

834
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 2: that game, almost like a running back spy. So I

835
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 2: thought that was interesting. Then he was asked about Kyler

836
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 2: and he said when he gets out and runs around,

837
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 2: Dan Campbell said, he's dangerous, and now they've got him

838
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 2: a weapon to throw to end quote Dan Campbell, try McBride.

839
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Speaker 2: So there you go. Well, we'll see when they come in.

840
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 2: But look, there's no doubt that to me, this Cardinals

841
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 2: team is patterned a lot like the Lions. And there

842
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 2: are just teams that are ultra physical. Cardinals are one

843
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 2: of those teams. Lions are one of those teams. The

844
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 2: forty nine ers are one of those teams. And I

845
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 2: mean it's Wolf isn't gonna sit down the entirety of

846
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 2: this game. There will be a tier in his eye

847
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,720
Speaker 2: for four quarters. When when this blood bat.

848
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,479
Speaker 4: Does he ever sit down? Doesn't he always stand?

849
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm down grinding on the sideline. I

850
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 2: have no idea.

851
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 5: I've never been on the sideline dances.

852
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's right, I forgot.

853
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 2: Well Wolson joined Climate Control and the halftime buffet. You

854
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 2: know we're down Ham and egger down on the sideline

855
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 2: for that one.

856
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 4: So, you know, speaking of not knowing where some of

857
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 4: these teams are going in the wide openness of the

858
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 4: league right now. A quick update after my wonderful first

859
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 4: week of picks, I knows Dove, and I'm now tied.

860
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 5: With you, Paul, Oh, and I'm two games back.

861
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 4: You're two games back. Danny and I each went seven

862
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 4: and eight on picks. This week. You went nine and six.

863
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 2: Interesting, okay, So now you.

864
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 4: And I are nineteen eleven each on the year. Danny's

865
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 4: seventeen to thirteen.

866
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 2: We did get the we did get the Tampa win

867
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 2: over the Lions, So I don't know.

868
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 4: I'm actually surprised I did as well as seven and eight.

869
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 5: Did you guys pick Buffalo over Miami in Miami?

870
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 2: No?

871
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 4: I did?

872
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 2: I did have that?

873
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: You know?

874
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 2: Yeah? They By the way, what is the lakes on

875
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 2: the Dolphins? So think about this. Christian McCaffrey gonna miss

876
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 2: Deebo Samuel.

877
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 4: Christian McCaffrey is definitely gonna miss the Cardinals game in

878
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 4: Week five. Deebo Samuel isn't on IR. Kyle Shannon said

879
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 4: that he will miss quote a few weeks now, some

880
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 4: other people are saying a couple the Cardinals play them

881
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 4: in three games, so Deebo Samuel is gonna be right

882
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 4: on the cusp. And then two for the Dolphins just

883
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 4: went on IR with his concussion. The earliest he could

884
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 4: come back off of IR if he came back, that

885
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 4: first game back would be the Cardinals game.

886
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 2: Interesting. Okay, okay, all right. By the way, did I

887
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 2: get your comments on Marvin Harrison Junior? Did we do

888
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 2: enough of a deep dive? Was there anything else you

889
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 2: wanted to say about the guy who, after one quarter

890
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,280
Speaker 2: of play, speaking of an Kwon Bolden in his rookie debut,

891
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 2: was tracking in week two to do what an Kwon

892
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,919
Speaker 2: Bolden did in week one of his pro career.

893
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 4: It would have been nice to see him catch those

894
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 4: other two fag touchdowns that we're both ope and I

895
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,479
Speaker 4: thought they were both going to connect. Yeah they will though.

896
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:07,280
Speaker 2: And to me that was shades of fits in that Marvin,

897
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 2: I believe was thinking more about what could have been

898
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 2: than what was after the game, like the missed opportunities,

899
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 2: because there were something he said yes, and then the

900
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 2: other thing made me think of Larry, I'll be honest

901
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 2: with you, he got near the goal line and he

902
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,320
Speaker 2: went beast mode. He wasn't going to be denied. He

903
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 2: lunged for that pylon and that goal line. I'm like,

904
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 2: no chance, and he made it. And that was sort

905
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 2: of like Larry especially the latter part of his career. Hey,

906
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 2: is that kJ Wright all pro linebacker between me and

907
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 2: the goal line? Sorry? kJ Boom, and he just truck him.

908
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 5: Harrison was dominant and he refused to be phased by

909
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 5: the defenders. That first touchdown pass which was so perfectly

910
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 5: thrown by Kyler Murray and I don't think that can

911
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 5: be stressed enough right to the back end of the

912
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 5: end zone, and there was a defender who had his

913
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 5: hand in Harrison's face. That the defenders and is in

914
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 5: between Harrison's hands as he is catching the ball, and

915
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,720
Speaker 5: he still makes the catch. And on the second touchdown

916
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 5: as he's getting tackled, full extension to go past the pylon.

917
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 5: It was a spectacular outing by Marvin Harrison Junior, and

918
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 5: a really great rebound from Week one his NFL debut

919
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 5: in Buffalo, where he had just one catch for four yards.

920
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 4: Well, like I said, he could have had a seven

921
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 4: yard touchdown and a five yard touchdown. I thought both

922
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 4: those were opened, and the two of them, I thought

923
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 4: the first one was not a great throw by Kyler.

924
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 4: I thought the second one Marvin probably could have had

925
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 4: and couldn't come up with it. And then there are

926
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 4: the other two incompletions. You know, Kyler only had four incompletions.

927
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 4: All the targets were to Marvin. Yeah, it was the

928
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 4: first pass of the game, which was just low. I

929
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 4: thought it was low. It was a weird kind of pass,

930
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 4: and I think it was broken up but didn't have

931
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 4: much of a chance. The other one, Marvin was wide

932
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 4: open twenty yards downfield and Kyler just airmailed it. Otherwise

933
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 4: that's another twenty plus yard game.

934
00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. Realistically, feasibly, two months from now, all

935
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 2: three that you just cited, agreed will be complete, And yes,

936
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 2: I agreed. That's when you get the true realization of

937
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 2: what wide receiver one can do for this offense. The

938
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 2: only downside I think is, you know you didn't get

939
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 2: to play Bryce Young and Carolina, you know early in

940
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 2: the year before Andy Dalton came in.

941
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 4: Well, here's the question, Paul, and I pose this to

942
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:25,760
Speaker 4: some other people in the office, including Danny, is Bryce

943
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 4: Young starting for the Panthers when the Cardinals go there

944
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 4: right before Christmas. Maybe you never know with Carolina, Yeah maybe,

945
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 4: no crap.

946
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 2: What I will do is I will give you in

947
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 2: honor of Bryce Young in Carolina, I'm now going to

948
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 2: give you a poly power pole ranking recent incompetence in

949
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 2: ineptitude in our world. Okay, I'm not going to explain

950
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 2: all these summer football some are just current events. If

951
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 2: you're not keeping up with current events, then you know

952
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,760
Speaker 2: I'm not here to explain it. But here's our Rando

953
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 2: powerpole of incompetence in recent memory. Okay. Number one Alex

954
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 2: Morello ruining running the Coyotes.

955
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 5: Okay, does that mean it's the worst word? Getting toward

956
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 5: examples of abject not in a particular order.

957
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 2: These are just okay, secret service Times two Harrison Butker

958
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 2: Kid Rock lip syncing at the RNC. You had to

959
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 2: see it to believe that. The Trey Lance trade, that's

960
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 2: that's still there in the ether.

961
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 4: You know, three forty nine ers one right, that's the Cowboys.

962
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 2: One right, three round one fixed right.

963
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 4: I don't know the Bryce Young trade.

964
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,919
Speaker 2: About the PAC twelve Commissioner's office. Times two Larry Scott

965
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 2: and George Clayoff cop endless Shrimp at Red Lobster, which

966
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 2: bankrupt Red Lobster. That promotion hand or hand up in marketing,

967
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 2: that was sad.

968
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 4: I know Paul went to Red Lobster quite a bit.

969
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put the Bryce Young trade where you gave

970
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 2: up two first rounders and two second rounders to move

971
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 2: from nine to one in and then you bypassed CJ. Strouds.

972
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 2: So I mean there's three levels of incompetence there.

973
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 4: I'm the only thing I'm going to say is I

974
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 4: think most people had Bryce Young ahead of c J.

975
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 4: Stroud at the time of the draft.

976
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 2: It's number two and then the number one. The most

977
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:19,479
Speaker 2: flagrant or egregious example of recent incompetence and ineptitude would

978
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 2: have to be the Australian breakdancer at the Olympics. How

979
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 2: about that Ray Gun? Yes, So there you go. That's

980
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 2: my hater, that's my powerpole.

981
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 4: I have one little thing I want to bring up

982
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 4: and anything, well, you can come up with him while

983
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 4: you're while we're talking. So, Sidney Crosby just signed another

984
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 4: contract with the Pittsburgh Penguins, Right, Okay, Sidney Crosby, who

985
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,240
Speaker 4: is no longer probably the best player in the NHL,

986
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 4: but he's probably still top three.

987
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 2: Darren, I'll be honest with that. Okay, you don't care. No,

988
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:48,879
Speaker 2: I thought you retired like years ago.

989
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 4: No, how old is he he's in his late thirties,

990
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 4: but he's still really good.

991
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 2: He's not even forty and he's still no.

992
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 4: That's what happens when these guys coming in to the

993
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 4: league at eight.

994
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 2: It's true, it's right, Sidney Crosby. I be debuted at fourteen.

995
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 4: But what I found was incredible was since two thousand

996
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 4: and eight, two thousand and nine, his cap hit has

997
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 4: always been eight point seven million dollars. Now there's been

998
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 4: a couple of years where he's gotten paid a little

999
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 4: bit more, but this guy was the best when that

1000
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 4: first started happening. He was the best player in the league.

1001
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 4: And he's never been paid as the best player in

1002
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 4: the league. He's he's there's always a lot of guys

1003
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 4: who are ahead of him because he was born on

1004
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 4: August seventh, So he wants his cap hit to equal

1005
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 4: eight seven which, by the way, I was born in

1006
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 4: August thirty first, and if we're doing this for me,

1007
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 4: I want eighty three point one million dollars, not eight

1008
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 4: point three one billion dollars.

1009
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 2: I mean there's being superstitious and then there's being idiot stitious.

1010
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 2: I mean, what, what why would he not the most

1011
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 2: he ever been? You know what, that's great, Danny, that's

1012
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 2: a great Yes, that comes full sort of makes sense right, Well,

1013
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 2: in between Bryce Young and Ray Gunn he did make.

1014
00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 4: Twelve million dollars a couple of years, but he's never

1015
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 4: made more than twelve million dollars a year. And I

1016
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 4: know NHL salaries aren't quite the same as some other sports,

1017
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 4: but I was looking it up and like he since

1018
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 4: like twenty twelve, the leading guy in the league has

1019
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 4: gotten like fourteen million dollars a year. And he's taking like,

1020
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 4: I mean, that is so random.

1021
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 5: Why were you looking that up?

1022
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 4: What in the Because he just signed a new contract

1023
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 4: and he did it again, and they're like, he's had

1024
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 4: He's made eight point seven million dollars a year since

1025
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 4: two thousand and eight.

1026
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 2: I'm like, what, who was the d back who was

1027
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 2: getting one million a year for twenty five years? Is

1028
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 2: that Bernard Guilty? Is that sort of like the same, Yeah,

1029
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 2: Bobby Bonilla, Well it's not quite the same thing, because

1030
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 2: there isn't like deferred. This isn't deferred to get the

1031
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 2: rest of his self.

1032
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 4: Sidney Crosby is still one of the best players out there.

1033
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 4: It's like Lebron taking a pay cut. Oh wait, he

1034
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 4: didn't do that.

1035
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 2: I mean, what in the sam name of Mario Lemieux

1036
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 2: and Yarmor, Yager are you doing? Sidney Crosby said the kid,

1037
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 2: what's going on? By the way, he paid accordingly.

1038
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 4: When I was looking up the details on this, I

1039
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 4: also saw the Pittsburgh Penguins actually have players go to

1040
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:13,760
Speaker 4: season ticket houses and deliver their season tickets, including Sidney

1041
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 4: Crosby has done that.

1042
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 5: I imagine depending on the players. Some of the house

1043
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 5: residents don't even recognize the players because they always have

1044
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 5: their helmets on.

1045
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 4: Maybe, but I think if they're wearing their show jerseys,

1046
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 4: they have a pretty good idea.

1047
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 2: By the way, it was just informed that the Bryce

1048
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 2: Young trade was not only first round picks two of

1049
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 2: them two second round picks, or was also Dj Moore

1050
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 2: the wide receivers. So I'm going to vault that ahead

1051
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 2: of Sidney crossby.

1052
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 4: Djmore, who, by the way, looked like he was going

1053
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 4: to just kill himself getting non passes from Caleb Williams.

1054
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, that's okay. Well, I didn't think

1055
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 2: we'd get the TV Land trivia for a second week,

1056
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 2: and I did certainly did not think we would get

1057
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Penguins trivia here at the end of Cardinals.

1058
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 4: When's your birthday? What would your what would your average

1059
00:51:58,160 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 4: salary beat pets classify?

1060
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 2: I don't need to year, I just needed it's uh,

1061
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 2: it would be to nineteen would be so obviously that

1062
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 2: would be you know, move that dost point just over

1063
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 2: one twenty one point nine.

1064
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,760
Speaker 5: You know three eleven three eleven.

1065
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 4: Isn't that a band?

1066
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 5: Mm hmmm?

1067
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,439
Speaker 2: And it's a band And you just did the fact

1068
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 2: Danny didn't know and you wondered.

1069
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 4: Yeh.

1070
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 2: And our Jim Momhundro has been to seventeen of their concerts.

1071
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 2: I think he just took that personal. And I'm going

1072
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 2: to buy you some time to the windows.

1073
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 4: If the window was the other way looking out, I'd

1074
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 4: be able to tell that's right.

1075
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 2: And uh, that last insult will do it. Here for

1076
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