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Speaker 2: What is going on everybody, John Middlecalff, that'd be me.

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Speaker 2: Three and out would be this little thing we like

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Speaker 2: for you because have some football takes. I think the

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Speaker 2: Bears must win Territory this weekend so their season doesn't unravel.

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Speaker 2: Got the Cowboys rolling into town. I want to defend

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Speaker 2: on Mahomes and the Eagles. But Kyle Brandt, who is

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Speaker 2: doing this show on Vice watching super Bowls with great

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Speaker 2: It was fun. He's awesome And I also did a

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Speaker 2: I'm here for the people. So we got a little

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Speaker 2: mail bag. So it's basically some takes, Kyle Brandt and

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Speaker 2: because I'll never forget when I first got into radio,

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Speaker 2: all his fault. He didn't build this roster together. Ryan Poles,

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Speaker 2: when it comes down to Ben Johnson, like, do you

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Speaker 2: Ben Johnson actually was asked today about that situation of

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Speaker 2: But Tom Brady's kind of getting I saw Portnoy today

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Speaker 2: They are gonna need to replace some players, right, I

431
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Speaker 2: feel pretty confidence saying this will be Travis Kelsey's last

432
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Speaker 2: year in the NFL, Like they are going to need

433
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 2: a key offensive weapons, specifically a tight end. And Chris Jones,

434
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Speaker 2: Like how many big time years does he have left?

435
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,439
Speaker 2: So they're gonna need another big time defensive lineman and

436
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,479
Speaker 2: they're never gonna be really shitty, So how are they

437
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Speaker 2: going to replace these guys? Luckily they have a GM

438
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Speaker 2: and a coach that have made some incredible moves over

439
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 2: the years. But if he's gonna have his you know,

440
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,119
Speaker 2: like when Peyton went to Denver. Obviously Mahomes isn't chain

441
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 2: of teams, but I would say that the parallel would

442
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 2: be Brady and that Gorenkowski, Edelman, mccordy, high Tower, some

443
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,919
Speaker 2: of those guys. It's just gonna be out of his

444
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 2: control and it's gonna be a lot of pressure on

445
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,679
Speaker 2: Beach to get a lot of things right moving forward.

446
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Speaker 2: But I would not bet against the Chiefs big picture,

447
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 2: even if this year is quote unquote underwhelming, you know,

448
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 2: for their what their expectations. And last but not least

449
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,159
Speaker 2: is Jordan Mylotta had some comments about he thought it

450
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 2: was disrespectful saying the Eagles won that game because of

451
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Speaker 2: the Tush push, And I don't totally disagree, but I

452
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Speaker 2: I do think the Eagles probably. It feels like in

453
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Speaker 2: a short period of time, like the way people were

454
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 2: talking about the Chiefs, people are just like, I'm just

455
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,199
Speaker 2: tired of the Chiefs. I'm just tired of the Chiefs.

456
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 2: It happens in basketball sometimes, like can anyone else win

457
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 2: beside Lebron or Curry? Like, and I get it, like

458
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 2: if you're not a fan of one of these specific

459
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Speaker 2: teams or this specific player, even if you like the sport,

460
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Speaker 2: you're like, can we just get something new? And then

461
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Speaker 2: you get something new? And I like see the ratings like,

462
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 2: well I gave you the Oklahoma City Thunder. Why aren't

463
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Speaker 2: you watching?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's there's something to be said. It's like

466
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Speaker 2: can anyone win beside the Yankees? I remember thinking that

467
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Speaker 2: when I was a kid. It's like then the Yankees disappeared,

468
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Speaker 2: and you get like the Marlins. It's like, people, aren't

469
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:04,400
Speaker 2: this world series fellas Marlins? Or like Diamondbacks versus the

470
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 2: Rockies versus White Sox. It's like sometimes you got it

471
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 2: pretty good. But I do think the Eagles quickly or

472
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 2: like a lot of people are gonna start rooting against them,

473
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Speaker 2: and the tush push is just one of those. It's

474
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Speaker 2: probably the most polarizing play of all time because you

475
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Speaker 2: could be like the wild cat is gonna take over

476
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Speaker 2: the league. We've had situations like that, the spread offense,

477
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Speaker 2: the pistol. This is just one specific play that only

478
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 2: one team can run and they we know it's inevitable,

479
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,239
Speaker 2: and people are just rooting against them, and then it

480
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Speaker 2: brings into Jalen Hurts. It's like this guy just won

481
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, has played fantastic in two Super Bowls, obviously,

482
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 2: has had some huge moments in his short career. Wally

483
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 2: pipped in the blink of an e Carson Wentz and

484
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 2: took the Eagles to another level, and people's like, is

485
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 2: he good? And I looked at hey, like, how many

486
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 2: yards does he after two games? Obviously he didn't have

487
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Speaker 2: many yards against the Chiefs because Chris Jones, you know,

488
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 2: he has two hundred and fifty yards passing in two games.

489
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 2: He has no passing touchdowns. Now, granted he has three

490
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Speaker 2: on the ground, obviously a couple toush pushes, But I

491
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 2: just think people are gonna start rooting against them, and

492
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 2: last year or last couple of years, the big domb

493
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Speaker 2: thing they've kind of been fun. They have this you

494
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 2: know GM, but you got Siriani. I saw him doing

495
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 2: this thing like singing eminem on the way to the

496
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 2: locker room. I just think that they might just jump

497
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 2: the chiefs of someone that everyone is just gonna root

498
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 2: against beside Eagles fans, and Eagles fans are gonna eat

499
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,439
Speaker 2: this up because they naturally have a chip on their shoulder.

500
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 2: We're finally good, the defending champs, and everyone's talking about us.

501
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,640
Speaker 2: This is a big weekend because I think the Rams.

502
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 2: If you're not an Eagles fan, everyone's rooting for the Rams.

503
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 2: And obviously the Rams were right there last year. If

504
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 2: they could somehow corral Jalen, who had a you know,

505
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 2: awesome run that opened up the game against him and

506
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 2: it's just a threat on the ground, can just corral

507
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 2: him a little bit and make him beat you with

508
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Speaker 2: his arm. So far this season, he hasn't proven that.

509
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Speaker 2: And the crazy thing about despite being two to zero

510
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 2: defending champs, a little undercurrent. I saw like a reddit board,

511
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 2: I saw some comments there was something the Eagles put

512
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 2: out in the comments on Instagram, the offensive coordinator better

513
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 2: get some passing yards and some passing touchdowns here really soon,

514
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 2: or people are gonna get grapchy so that there's always

515
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 2: something bubbling even when times are good. In Philly, I

516
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 2: not only have worked there, but I follow that team

517
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 2: really closely, and I can already see the offensive coordinator

518
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 2: being a little under fire being asked some questions. Not

519
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 2: like he's gonna get fire in the middle of the year,

520
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 2: but it's just it's one of those things. They can

521
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 2: never quite be too happy. And I think that game

522
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 2: it's it's it's a big one for the Rams, you

523
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 2: know the Eagles. The other thing, looking at the Eagles schedule,

524
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 2: even if they were to win this, their schedules is

525
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 2: really hard, so you know, and you look at the

526
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers, you look at the Rams. I mean,

527
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 2: getting the one seed in both conferences, it's just really

528
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 2: important given that there's only one team that gets a

529
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Speaker 2: buy now, and we know as the season drags on

530
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 2: that that buy is. I don't even think we talk

531
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 2: about it enough because we're just so accustomed for so

532
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 2: long that it's like, hey, just one of the top

533
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 2: two seeds. You get a breather. That's that's a big

534
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 2: difference getting that, you know, two seed, It's like, well,

535
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 2: you gotta play sometimes you gotta play like Sunday night.

536
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,719
Speaker 2: You gotta play a good opponent. It's not necessarily easy.

537
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 2: So fascinating to watch the the conversation around the Philadelphia Eagles.

538
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 2: Very excited, fired up. This man is, you know, been

539
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 2: up well before me and I feel like I got

540
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 2: up pretty early this morning. Chicago native, New York resident.

541
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Speaker 2: You can find him on Good Morning Football and everywhere.

542
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 2: Kyle Bryant, what's up, bro?

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Speaker 1: You man John, I'm thrilled to be here. I'm a

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Speaker 1: fan of yours, follow yours. I'm thrilled to see that

545
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: you have the real tasteful lighting and the really expensive

546
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: looking microphone. You're technologically savvy and your content's great. And

547
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: thanks for having me.

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00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 2: No, you know, coward and the volume had to send

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Speaker 2: some people out because I would I would have had

550
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 2: the USB MIC, I would have had a Logy tech camera,

551
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Speaker 2: you know, I get for sure. You know, actually I

552
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 2: had never I've been to most major cities in America,

553
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 2: but I had never been to Chicago. And probably you know,

554
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 2: a week into training camp, I went out. I actually

555
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Speaker 2: got to stay at uh stay with Colin and in

556
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Speaker 2: the suburbs. The place is beautiful, man, I mean, what

557
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 2: what a what a beautiful I know it gets a

558
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 2: little cold in the winter, and I listen, I'm an

559
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:47,479
Speaker 2: Arizona guy. I like my heat. But Chicago, I get it,

560
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 2: like I I understand it because we're he's showing me place.

561
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 2: I'm like, this place badass, and then he's showing me

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00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 2: the prices, you know, and I'm like, this is way

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Speaker 2: cheaper coming. I lived in California for a long time,

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Speaker 2: even Scottsdale. I'm like, you, guys, it's just it's not

565
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Speaker 2: very We had a nice dinner. It was like one

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Speaker 2: hundred bucks. I'm like, this is Midwest living.

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Speaker 1: I know it's a sad commentary when you moved to Chicago,

568
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: of all places, and it's cheaper where you live, But

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Speaker 1: I totally get it.

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Speaker 3: I grew up there.

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Speaker 1: Like the magic of Chicago for me was always I

572
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: grew up in the North suburbs where the Bears facility is,

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Speaker 1: and it's where all of those eighties movies were shot,

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Speaker 1: like Ferris Bueller and Breakfast Club and Weird Science and

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Speaker 1: all those John Hughes movies.

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Speaker 3: I'm Home Alone, plains, trains and automobiles.

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Speaker 1: So like I lived in those actual towns where those

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Speaker 1: characters were from.

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Speaker 3: And then if you go in the city, it's beautiful too.

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Speaker 1: The only problem with Chicago is the city is that

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00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: when it comes to professional football, they suck.

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Speaker 3: But other than that, like they've got a lot going

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Speaker 3: for them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to dive into the bears. You know

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Speaker 2: what's funny is over my wife speaking about Home Alone,

586
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Speaker 2: My wife showed me this video. At the hotel in

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Speaker 2: New York, you can get the ice cream Sunday order

588
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 2: that McAuley culkin ordered, and it's Do you know how

589
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Speaker 2: much money it costs?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: I know that the McAllister family had big money, but

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Speaker 1: I don't know the This is the Sunday at the

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Speaker 1: Plaza Hotel in Manhattan.

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Speaker 2: This is the ice cream. Now they've done it up.

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00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 2: They've added you know, it's like eighteen scoops but all

596
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 2: the you know, it comes with hot carmel, but it

597
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 2: could feed it could feed a staff.

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Speaker 3: What's the price?

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Speaker 2: Four hundred and fifty dollars.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I was gonna bet two hundred bucks

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Speaker 1: for a Sunday four point fifty and you can get

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Speaker 1: the McAllister Sunday. Tim Curry doesn't bring it to unfortunately,

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00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: but I mean I would throw down with that.

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Speaker 3: Here's a fun thing about that hotel.

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Speaker 1: In the scene and Home Alone two, Kevin McAllister like

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Speaker 1: jumps into the pool and like loses his bathing suit.

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00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 3: It's a funny moment.

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Speaker 1: There is no pool at the Plaza and that was

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00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: shot in downtown Chicago, like they in a different hotel. Like,

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Speaker 1: I know all about that stuff. You know me, I

611
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: know stupid nonsense from the nineties. That's my wheelhouse.

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Speaker 2: You know what's funny is you're a couple years older

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Speaker 2: than me, But I I anyone. I was born in

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Speaker 2: the mid eighties, you know, from Sylvester Sloan to Arnold

615
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 2: to My two favorite movies as a kid, by far

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Speaker 2: were The Rock and con Air and the action movies.

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00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 2: You know, my wife she's not as into it. I'm like, hey,

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Speaker 2: you want to watch Demolition Man. She's like, what is

619
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 2: this I have? And we're watching and I was thinking

620
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 2: last night, we're watching the show Task. It's on HBO.

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Speaker 2: It's actually pretty good through too, but like the the

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Speaker 2: action movie and definitely the action star feels kind of dead.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it definitely peaked in that group of guys

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Speaker 2: that were just it just doesn't feel like it's ever

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Speaker 2: coming back. You could argue, and I've always said this

626
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Speaker 2: about like fame, like Michael Jackson or Michael Jordan or

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Speaker 2: you know, even go Elvis Presley pre Internet fame is

628
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 2: a different level than whatever we got going on now,

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Speaker 2: which listen, I mean, I built businesses based on the Internet,

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Speaker 2: so I'm not anti the Internet, but it's a little

631
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 2: different world. And I kind of miss those days of

632
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 2: just like when the Rock would come out and you

633
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 2: knew every single human being you knew was gonna try

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Speaker 2: to see that thing.

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Speaker 1: I know, and I listen, I was thinking about this

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Speaker 1: yesterday when we found out that Robert Redford died. Is

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Speaker 1: that like there was a time when when a stallone

638
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: movie came out or a Switched Nagger movie that everyone

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00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: just you went to the theater.

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Speaker 3: There was no conversation about it. You were going to

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Speaker 3: see it.

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Speaker 1: And like the movie stars and the action stars, they

643
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: weren't showing up in like TV shows.

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Speaker 3: There certainly weren't being in commercials. There was no Internet.

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Speaker 1: It was just once a year you would drive to

646
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: the movie theater and pay eight to nine ten bucks

647
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:19,959
Speaker 1: to see that movie star, and then you'll see him

648
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: again a year from now. It's not like you know

649
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: action movies now, John, It's like I could go on

650
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: any of the streamers and there's like fifty different kind

651
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: of okay movies where like I don't know, Chris Hemsworth

652
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: is like kicking ass or something, or anybody I don't

653
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: even know who it.

654
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 3: Is, and they're fine. Just doesn't it just doesn't have

655
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 3: that same charm. And I missed that day. Those days

656
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 3: a lot.

657
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 2: I even think about. You know, you worked for Jim Rome. Yeah,

658
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 2: and you know I was born and raised in northern California,

659
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 2: so obviously Rome hit it big. But on the West coast,

660
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 2: what's up, John, I're doing?

661
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 3: Man?

662
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 2: There was nothing like it. So you know someone in

663
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 2: the late nineties, early two thousands now and back then

664
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 2: he was talking a lot of baseball. But I just

665
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 2: remember this guy talked sports for three hours, just talking shit.

666
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 2: And you'd have like Mark Grayson, and you'd even have

667
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 2: like Steve Elkington was an incredible golf guest, way ahead

668
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 2: of its time. And I did I had no clue

669
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 2: what he looked like, you know. And I used to

670
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 2: listen to Love Line with Corolla and Doctor Druid. That

671
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 2: was just a legendary ahead of its time show. But

672
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 2: you had no clue what these human beings look I

673
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 2: can't imagine listening to someone right now and not googling

674
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 2: them immediately and knowing their entire life story. Just it

675
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 2: just was a simpler time.

676
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: You know, it truly was, and you just driving your

677
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: car and listen. I was a big obviously, Rome was

678
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: a huge, huge deal to me and it means a

679
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: lot to me. But the Love Line thing was, you

680
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: would I remember listening to my car and it would

681
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: be like some girl would call up and she's like, well,

682
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 1: you know, I've been cutting myself because my boyfriend won't

683
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: talk to me. And then Corolla would always go, okay,

684
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: perfectly normal, perfectly healthy, and we'd laugh about it.

685
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 3: I missed Love Line so much.

686
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 2: Well, they'd have them like porn stars. You're like, like,

687
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 2: look around, make sure my mom wasn't walking around the

688
00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 2: corner a ten o'clock at night. Uh, really quick? Good

689
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 2: morning football?

690
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

691
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 2: I tried attempted to do some fill in local radio

692
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 2: morning show. And I remember thinking, like this is not

693
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 2: for me, not that I'm not a morning person, but

694
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 2: when you're in the entertainment business, whether TV rate, you

695
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 2: got to be peaking. When that light comes on at

696
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 2: six am, you know you've been doing it. Now what for?

697
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 2: I mean almost going on a decade, right, this is

698
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 2: my tight season, So you ever get used to it?

699
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 2: You know, what time does the alarm clock go off?

700
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 2: Your schedule of eating, working out, your family. I mean,

701
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 2: that's nuts.

702
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 3: It's a good question.

703
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: When we started in twenty sixteen, I was getting up.

704
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: I remember I would set the alarm for four to

705
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: twelve am, not four, not four fifteen, because like I

706
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 1: needed those extra twelve minutes of sleep, But if I

707
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: set it for like four fifteen, like I needed the

708
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 1: three minutes to get ready, it was that that crazy.

709
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 3: And now like now I wake up significantly later. Now

710
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 3: it's still before six.

711
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 1: But back then I would have to get up and

712
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 1: like prepare for two hours to do the show. Like

713
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: I would sit there for two hours and think of

714
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: what I was going to say. And now I can

715
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: really kind of improv the stuff. But it is a lifestyle,

716
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm at the point and John, you

717
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: understand this, like where I will get messages online or

718
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: just people who I meet in the street who were like,

719
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 1: I'm young and I want to get into media, and

720
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: I had opinions about sports like what should I do?

721
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 3: How can you help me? And what I always say

722
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 3: is just energy is.

723
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: Something people are always looking for, like the higher ups

724
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: or the suits or the decision makers.

725
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 3: Energy is such an underrated asset.

726
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: You can take all of the knowledge, you can be telegenic,

727
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: you can be creative. If you go before behind a

728
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: microphone or camera and your low energy, it doesn't work.

729
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: It's very difficult to be low energy and work. Whereas

730
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: my thing when I started on camera, I wasn't very

731
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: good at the time and I didn't have a ton

732
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: to say, but damn man, I had high energy and

733
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: you could you could feel it when I came out.

734
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: So if you're starting off energy, if they're in it

735
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: is they're trying to hire somebody for a talk show

736
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,399
Speaker 1: or a podcast between you and somebody else.

737
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 3: That other person might be brilliant.

738
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: And so insightful, but if you out energy them, it

739
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: is really an equalizer. So bring it and in a

740
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: morning show like you have no choice. You can't be

741
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:15,479
Speaker 1: born in a morning show.

742
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 2: Do you have to think about Obviously, you know you're

743
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 2: under the NFL umbrella. And I was watching you on

744
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 2: Dan Patrick probably a couple of weeks ago, when you

745
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 2: were talking like you've been critical, and I agree with

746
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 2: you on the Tomlin thing of the Andy Reid kind

747
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 2: of parallel. I think, sure, you know, if he became available,

748
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 2: he'd be the number one candidate for whoever needed a gig.

749
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 2: So it's not like people saying he needs a fresh

750
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 2: start means he stinks. He would immediately get a gig

751
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 2: and probably have a lot of success. But when you

752
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 2: broach those topics you got to you're on in probably

753
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 2: every building, a ton of gms, a lot of owners,

754
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 2: any sort of You've been doing it long enough now

755
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 2: to kind of know where you can and can't go. Probably,

756
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 2: But have you had some incidents where people have reached

757
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 2: out and said, like, bro, that's not gonna fly.

758
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: It's a really good question, and I have a really

759
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: simple answer. And I have done almost ten years and

760
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 1: over two thousand episodes of Good Morning Football on the

761
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 1: NFL's media branch, and not a single time have I

762
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: been told don't talk about this. Stay away from this.

763
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 1: They really really let me and let us do a show.

764
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: I don't have directives where they don't stay away from

765
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: officiating on this.

766
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 3: Don't show this, don't show this. I'm telling you you

767
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 3: know how.

768
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: I know that because in twenty sixteen, when we started

769
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: the whole point of the show, John was like, hey,

770
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: all right, let's get some mourning energy and some fun

771
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 1: and the positivity of football.

772
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 3: And it's fun, fun, fun, fun fun.

773
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: And ten minutes into our first season, Colin Kaepernick takes

774
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: a knee and it's all anybody was talking about. So

775
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: we were baptized by that and Trump those sobs calling

776
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: them and freedom and First Amendment.

777
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 3: It was like it was very important, but it was

778
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,280
Speaker 3: not terribly fun.

779
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: And since then, I mean, we've been through anything you

780
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: can think of, from Deshaun Watson to all kinds of

781
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: you know, concussion research and prevention, the things that are

782
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 1: really really important topics and polarizing times.

783
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 3: We talk about all of it.

784
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 1: And I promise you I've never even so much have

785
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: gotten an email saying, hey, we don't really like the

786
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: direction you went on.

787
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 3: That it's incredible. I promise it's true.

788
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 2: Well, let's hit on a topic, because I totally understand

789
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 2: if I'm Tom Brady and Mark Davis reaches out like

790
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 2: you want to own a piece. Oh yeah, I mean

791
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 2: it's a tough country club to get involved in. Totally

792
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 2: understand when Fox reaches out. When Tom I'm pretty sure

793
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 2: was still playing, Hey, you want about four hundred million

794
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,439
Speaker 2: dollars to call games with Kevin Burkhart, I probably would

795
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 2: have said yes too. So both those two things, no

796
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 2: one blames them for being involved. I do think for

797
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 2: the first time, if I'm Andy Reid in my office

798
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 2: or Sean Payton in my office and I looked up

799
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 2: on that Monday night game where I'm sure in their

800
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 2: offices that game was going and see Tom with a

801
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:53,439
Speaker 2: headset their division specifically got a little uncomfortable, even though

802
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 2: nothing actually changed. We knew that he was a part owner,

803
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 2: we knew that he's involved the spy tech talks about

804
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 2: all the time they talk. We know he's calling these games,

805
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 2: but that visual Sometimes I believe optics can be pretty overrated.

806
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 2: That word, but that wasn't optics where if I'm the

807
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 2: Chiefs or the Broncos, you might not be my competition.

808
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty five, But that was one of those

809
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 2: things where it's like, whoa, guys, this somethings. I don't

810
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 2: know what's gotta change, but this makes me uncomfortable it.

811
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 3: I have so many different responses.

812
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,760
Speaker 1: The first one is like, all right, so Brady's involved,

813
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: and he's got the headset on and he's the greatest

814
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 1: football mind ever, He's the greatest quarterback ever.

815
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 3: First of all, why does the Raiders' offense suck? Then?

816
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: Why is it so terrible? They're in the home opener

817
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: and they can't even score a touchdown?

818
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 3: What is he keepn providing to the Raiders? Whatever he's

819
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 3: getting from the.

820
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: Other teams isn't meaning anything because the Raiders look awful.

821
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: The second reason that everyone has such a visceral reaction

822
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: to this is because we're back at that old classic

823
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 1: of Tom.

824
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 3: Brady and impropriety. I mean, we rode that thing for

825
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 3: a decade.

826
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: That inflated football is a spy gate, Like that was

827
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: all the stuff that cooked for a while.

828
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 3: And I've seen people being like, he's at it again.

829
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 3: This is the Brady model. Make it a gate.

830
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 1: Just slap the word gate on anything Brady does and

831
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: we'll run with it.

832
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 3: My last response is you mentioned some.

833
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: People like Andy Reid or whoever it may be around

834
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,280
Speaker 1: around the world, and they talk about these production meetings

835
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 1: where that you meet with Tom Brady apparently remotely only

836
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,240
Speaker 1: because he's not allowed in. If someone has a problem

837
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: with this, then make a power move and say to

838
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: the network, I will not allow Tom Brady to be

839
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: in this meeting, and I'm not comfortable with it. I

840
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: don't think it's appropriate. Go ahead and say it. Make

841
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,720
Speaker 1: a stance. You may even get end up getting fined

842
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: or whatever, but it would stand for what everyone is

843
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: talking about, or screw it, you don't really care. And

844
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 1: I think Brady's just sitting there listen, I'm not really

845
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: don't really have anything to hide.

846
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good point. I have a hard time

847
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 2: seeing anyone probably draw that line, because last time I checked,

848
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 2: these networks pay a lot of money. So, uh, you know,

849
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 2: one thing I wrote down that's probably riding your wheelhouse.

850
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 2: So let's use this analogy. Mayfield, he's kind of like

851
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,919
Speaker 2: a childhood actor, you know, when you just a star

852
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:07,760
Speaker 2: in college, Heisman Trophy and just on the scene. Lincoln Riley, Baker, Mayfield,

853
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,240
Speaker 2: all these other NFL starf people forget Ceedee Lamb, Hollywood Brown,

854
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 2: Joe Mixon. I mean, his teams were stacked and he

855
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 2: was the leader. Then he gets to the NFL disaster

856
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 2: kind of like having a drug problem or something. Just like, whoa,

857
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 2: this is great. I love now he is. Now he

858
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 2: is resurrect. I just watched the Charlie Sheendock, which is

859
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 2: quite the wild ride. Yeah, and then now Baker Mayfield

860
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 2: is just you can't take your eyes off him. I mean,

861
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 2: he's he's kind of got. I mean we compared Mahomes

862
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 2: to like the Curry Farv. Baker's always had a little

863
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 2: bit of that to him, and you know, it definitely

864
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 2: disappeared in Cleveland and obviously Carolina. It feels like it's

865
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 2: a little back you know that far Van just kind

866
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 2: of electric lights are on and it's fun. I don't

867
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 2: know what to say besides Tampa's on, Baker's on. You

868
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 2: gotta watch because it's.

869
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: Been a career so many things that you just said there.

870
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: I thought the perfect word is Farvian. And I know

871
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: that Brett Farv has taken a lot of hits over

872
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,720
Speaker 1: the last few years, and much to his own doing,

873
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: And it's fine but like it's it's probably the most

874
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 1: watchable NFL quarterback in NFL history. Like if you were

875
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,399
Speaker 1: back then in the nineties, like no one could take

876
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: their eyes off far. It was pure charisma, it was

877
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 1: all fun, it was all positive.

878
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 3: And Baker has that going on to child star analogy.

879
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: Baker's now like the one who made it though, like

880
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 1: Baker's Jody Foster or Baker's Elijah Wood or Daniel Radcliffe,

881
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 1: Like they are respected and they are on their own

882
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 1: two feet and they're still.

883
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 3: Doing amazing work even though they were a child star.

884
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: My Baker story is, for the last two years, I

885
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: worked like the Pro Bowl games. Okay, so people want

886
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 1: to roll their eyes about the Pro Bowl. It's a

887
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,280
Speaker 1: really fun event to go to. I go down to Orlando,

888
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: I take my son and we just mess around. And

889
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: this year we stayed in the player's hotel. I took

890
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: my son out to Orlando. We went to every single

891
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: goat kart, batting cage, video, arcade place. Orlando is just

892
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: a series of attractions lined up next to each other.

893
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: We get back to the hotel kind of late. It's

894
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: the night before the Big Games. The next day, big

895
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: lobby bar loaded with people. I don't see any players

896
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: except for one who is Baker Mayfield physically forcing people

897
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 1: to put.

898
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 3: Things on his tab. I got that drink, I got

899
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 3: that drink.

900
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,479
Speaker 1: Pick up their drink, pick up theirs too, not even

901
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: like his teammates, just people around the bar.

902
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 3: Next morning, we gotta get up early for breakfast. Baker

903
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 3: is in the breakfast restaurant at.

904
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: The hotel, working the tables like he's a groom at

905
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: a wedding. And by working, I mean meeting kids, signing hats.

906
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 1: Comes to my say, but oh, is this your son?

907
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: How you doing? I'm Baker. I'm not naive about this.

908
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: I've been around athletes.

909
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 3: All the time.

910
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: I have never seen someone hit it that hard at night,

911
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: work the crowd, and then the next morning is like

912
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 1: the President's and it's totally authentic.

913
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 3: I loved it.

914
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: There were no cameras rolling on and he just did it.

915
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 1: And I think that's what people are seeing on the field.

916
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 2: You know, we talk a lot about during draft time

917
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 2: players and obviously tangible assets like Caleb's got a big arm,

918
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 2: or this guy can run really fast, this guy's really tall.

919
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 2: But I think the one cool part about like this

920
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 2: era of Mahomes Josh Lamar, I throw a burrow in there.

921
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 2: It looks like Herbert's really morphing into this is like

922
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 2: off the field, you know, you talk to Veach, you

923
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 2: talk to Andy, the way they talk about Mahomes back

924
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 2: he's thirty today, but like five six years ago when

925
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 2: he was younger, or obviously Josh or Lamar. How much

926
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,439
Speaker 2: people gravitate towards the human being. And you know, it's

927
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 2: hard during the draft period because most human beings don't

928
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 2: know these guys. But like when these stories come out

929
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,439
Speaker 2: of like, eh, something's a little awful with this guy

930
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,919
Speaker 2: at quarterback, that's a I know you're a big Josh

931
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 2: Allen guy. Like that's a really big deal. And you know,

932
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 2: when I think about the two best quarterbacks really of

933
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,280
Speaker 2: my adult life would be Peyton and obviously Tom. Tom's

934
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 2: knowns like the greatest teammate of all time, not the

935
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 2: greatest quarterback, but these guys that play with them. I

936
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 2: know people that played with Philip Rivers, they swear by

937
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 2: the guy or Matt Stafford, and I think that's a

938
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 2: defining attribute of these guys. Why these young players like

939
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 2: we'll see with Caleb'll see with JJ if they're gonna

940
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 2: be good enough. But that off the field can buy

941
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 2: you more time when it's like I love this guy.

942
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna see with JJ, Like, are they gonna splinter

943
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 2: on him? Well, if they like him enough, they will

944
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 2: give him a little bit of extra runway, even if

945
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 2: it's as rocky as a spin.

946
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean listen, access to to franchise quarterbacks is

947
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: so interesting, even if it's ten to twelve minutes at

948
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: a time, which it usually is, just to watch how

949
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: they act and watch how they talk to people. Josh

950
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: Allen is a human labrador. He's so lovable, and he's

951
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: wags his tail the whole time, and he's got this

952
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 1: youthful energy.

953
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 3: I'll tell you, John, the most interesting one I've ever

954
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 3: been around.

955
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 1: And it was last week and I hung out with

956
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow and I went to the Bengals facility.

957
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 3: He's injured. Now.

958
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: This was right before that Jaguars game. I flew to Cincinnati,

959
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 1: went in the stadium. Had never sat with Joe Burrow before,

960
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: but I sat with him for almost twenty minutes. And

961
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: I don't I've definitely never interviewed someone like him. I

962
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: don't think i've ever talked to someone like him in

963
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 1: any walk of life. He's straight up to me on camera.

964
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: He says, I have a hard time interacting with people sometimes,

965
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: like it's uncomfortable for me. And he says sometimes he

966
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: gets judged by the facial expressions he has or the

967
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: lack of emotion that he shows. And he is a

968
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,280
Speaker 1: guy who I don't I think is kind of struggling

969
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: to be comfortable in his own skin. And he's like,

970
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of people I can talk to

971
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 1: about it because no one kind of has this type

972
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: of life, Like who can I go to? You know,

973
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing, But he's got the look and the fame

974
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: and the money and all that. I'm like, who do

975
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: you talk to? He's like, I'm friends with Kevin Durant.

976
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 1: I talk to him. I run into Brady sometimes and

977
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: I ask him advice. Odell helps me a lot, like

978
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: he feels like a guy who is not the Labrador,

979
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,439
Speaker 1: but is trying really hard to be as professional as

980
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 1: he can.

981
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 3: These guys are so so different, especially in a.

982
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: Town like Buffalo, where you go to the grocery store

983
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: it's a national event, or Cincinnati.

984
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 3: Even Burrow is beyond fascinating.

985
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: I hate that he's injured now, but he is a

986
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: guy who is figuring out his way in life. I

987
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: don't think it comes naturally to him, but I think

988
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: he's making it work.

989
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that situation, I mean just sucks as a as

990
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 2: a consumer. I mean, it's just like they're just a

991
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 2: fun team to watch. It's kind of the moment of

992
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,399
Speaker 2: the backup quarterback. Right now, we're gonna get to Vice

993
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 2: your show. You sat with Kurt Warner, who kind of

994
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,959
Speaker 2: fits in this. I mean, no one now he's even

995
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 2: more obscure than Jake Browning was a starter on a

996
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 2: playoff team in Washington, you know, I mean he was

997
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 2: a herald in high school player. Kurt Warner, not a

998
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,439
Speaker 2: soul that loved football. Had ever heard of the guy

999
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 2: unless you were was it Northern Iowa or where the

1000
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 2: hell he played? So it's like, you know, but this week,

1001
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 2: you look, you got Jaden's injured, you got jj I

1002
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 2: don't even I guess he was getting his ankle taped

1003
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 2: during the game. But it kind of had a party

1004
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 2: feel where you just assumed everything was good and then

1005
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, Monday morning guy comes out and

1006
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 2: he's injured Mac Jones is playing. A lot of backups

1007
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 2: are playing, which can we can handle for a week,

1008
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 2: but you don't want to get to a spot where

1009
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 2: you got Monday nights and Sunday nights and all of

1010
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 2: a sudden, backups are littered about the league. It's it

1011
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 2: makes me a little nervous because we're pretty early in

1012
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 2: this thing to already be at this point. Right.

1013
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 3: Oh man, I'm so pissed off.

1014
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: This is my least favorite topic, but it's an important topic.

1015
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 3: I understand as an NFL fan.

1016
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: We're gonna get a Marcus Mariota game, Carson Wentz on

1017
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: whatever team he's on this year game.

1018
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 3: It's fine.

1019
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: We have to get these things in week three. You

1020
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: can't even give us a month of clean football.

1021
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 3: I hate it. I don't want to see Jake Browning.

1022
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 3: I don't want to see Carson Wentz on the bike.

1023
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:28,919
Speaker 3: I don't.

1024
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 1: I'm not ashamed to say it. And here's my other

1025
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: take on remember this. People lose their bleeping minds about

1026
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: all these rules to protect quarterbacks, and this sucks. It's

1027
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 1: not football. You can't get quarterbacks anymore. I will never

1028
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: complain about those rules. I don't care if you can't

1029
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: land on the quarterback anymore. I don't care that you

1030
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: can't touch his head. I know it's annoying, but it's

1031
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: not nearly as annoying as me watching Marcus Mariota start

1032
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 1: for Jadon Daniels.

1033
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 3: I don't want to see that. I want those rules

1034
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 3: in place.

1035
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: People are like, you gotta loose enough, the rules tighten them.

1036
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: If anything, I want those guys out there. It ruins

1037
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: our Sunday when they're not.

1038
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 3: That's my piece on it.

1039
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 2: How much toush push talk have you guys had this week?

1040
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 3: Huns, I can't get enough. I love talk.

1041
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 2: Okay, let's let's just let's just dive in. I mean

1042
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 2: I forever I didn't necessarily care. Is kind of indifferent.

1043
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 2: I respect it. Like they have this quarterback that can

1044
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 2: squat the house. I don't think most other quarterbacks. There

1045
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 2: was that play where Chris Jones jumps on him. He's

1046
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 2: so strong. He took chrispher a ride to someone DM

1047
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 2: me like, well, if the backup could function, I'm like,

1048
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 2: I don't think Tanner McKee could have taken Chris Jones

1049
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 2: for a ride. I think he stops right there. So

1050
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 2: I think Jalen is a huge part of this. But

1051
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 2: you play college football very successful running back. Correct part

1052
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 2: of playing football is on any given play, whether it's

1053
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 2: high school, whether it's the pros, you don't really it's unknown.

1054
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 2: You don't know what's gonna happen, trick ration on any

1055
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 2: given play. Something crazy can happen. A play you don't

1056
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 2: know what the offense is called. This is the most

1057
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 2: inevitable play. Even a quarterback sneak is one not inevitable, right,

1058
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 2: you see in college all the time. College quarterbacks are

1059
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 2: terrible at it, so they get stuffed. This is an inevitability.

1060
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 2: And that's where I think that, like I understand people

1061
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 2: pushing back, it's just kind of boring to watch. If

1062
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 2: if ten teams could do this well, it would have

1063
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 2: been banned a long time ago because it'd be it'd

1064
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 2: just be boring to watch. Luckily, only one team, and

1065
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 2: they did a good job campaigning against it. Yet Jason

1066
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 2: Kelsey come in, Howie. They're good at they're smart guys

1067
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 2: behind the Eagles curtain. But I do think that this

1068
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 2: moment in time the Chiefs game was like this is

1069
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,240
Speaker 2: probably the last year before because we saw the momentum

1070
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 2: last year in the offseason. I just think this is

1071
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,479
Speaker 2: a tough play to watch, even if they're doing their playing,

1072
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:42,720
Speaker 2: they're biding by the rules.

1073
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I don't know if they are anymore. That's

1074
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:46,919
Speaker 3: that's where the record.

1075
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 2: Well they jumped, Yeah, you can't see.

1076
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 3: So I've got a long history of talking about this.

1077
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 1: And you use the word inevitability. It's pretty much an

1078
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: inevitability for Philadelphia, it's not for everyone else. Buffalo ran

1079
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 1: it a lot last year and they were stopped twice

1080
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 1: in the title game running it. So it can be

1081
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 1: done against Buffalo, I don't if it can against Philly.

1082
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: My quick, rapid fire takedown of all the critiques of

1083
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 1: the tush push are very similar.

1084
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 3: People say, oh, it's a dangerous play. It's nonsense.

1085
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 1: It's less dangerous than a conventional running play with a

1086
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: running back up the middle because there's less impact. They say,

1087
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:22,359
Speaker 1: it's not football. Listen, we pushed as hard as we can.

1088
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: You push as hard as we can. That sounds to

1089
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: me like Princeton Rutgers back in the day, who had

1090
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 1: invented football.

1091
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 3: I don't mind it at all. I have fought for

1092
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 3: the tush push for a long time.

1093
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: I think it went someplace where I can't follow against

1094
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 1: the chiefs because now half the line are all the

1095
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,280
Speaker 1: line is false starting. That's just blatantly against the rules.

1096
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 1: Your helmet can't go and contact the chiefs before the

1097
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: ball's even snapped. But it's such a cluster bleep in

1098
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 1: there that the officials.

1099
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 3: Can't call it.

1100
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,919
Speaker 1: So that was the moment, dude, where it's like, oh,

1101
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 1: they're definitely banning this in the offseason.

1102
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 3: But again, there was only two games in. We got

1103
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 3: four months of them running thing soil the wheels fall off.

1104
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: And listen, Siriani knows, like your kid who knows he's

1105
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: gonna get grounded and lose his PlayStation, you are playing

1106
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 1: the hell of that thing out before they take it away.

1107
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 1: We're gonna see it a hundred times this year and

1108
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 1: then they'll take it away.

1109
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 2: I think the thing with Josh is one Josh is

1110
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 2: taller than Jalen, but it's got to be uncomfortable getting

1111
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 2: as low as Jalen gets where he's natural and comfortable

1112
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 2: doing it. Josh did the normal. Tom Brady succeeded forever

1113
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 2: and he was tall too. Josh tries to go high,

1114
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 2: but it doesn't work. You have to disappear, you know,

1115
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:30,879
Speaker 2: and and I don't think any quarterback to day, I'm

1116
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 2: not disappearing into that thing. Jalen, for whatever reason, he

1117
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 2: to me he's the only individual that could run it

1118
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 2: at this clip, right unless someone just has the balls,

1119
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 2: also the stature and the strength. He's just it's just

1120
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 2: kind of a unique situation. Okay. Uh, I guess before

1121
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 2: we get to buy the Bears, I mean they are.

1122
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 3: Going, we need advice. They need about fifty of them.

1123
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: They need to be strong and illegal and they need

1124
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: to be narcotics to get through this season.

1125
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 3: My god, when I.

1126
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 2: Was when I was sitting there at Coward House, I'm like, this,

1127
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 2: this area is just incredible, the intellege, Chicago's downtown, the Lakes,

1128
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 2: the suburbs, you guys got it all. And then he's

1129
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 2: shown me on the map, I'm like, oh that that

1130
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 2: little place up there. Green Bay has been kicking your

1131
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 2: ass for decades. And there's not a soul in America

1132
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:16,879
Speaker 2: if they could choose, like, hey, would you rather live

1133
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 2: in the suburbs of Green Bay or I mean suburbs

1134
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 2: of Chicago or go to live in Green Bay? Obviously

1135
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 2: there's an inferiority complex of how is this happening to us?

1136
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 2: And it's not even fair? And now the Packers if

1137
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 2: it was college football cow through two weeks. I mean,

1138
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 2: I don't think anyone would hesitate or be question I

1139
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 2: was putting the Packers number one, right. They look they've

1140
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 2: already been good and now they look extra good. And

1141
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 2: the Bears it's been pretty bad. I mean, you get

1142
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 2: a fifty burger put on you in the NFL again,

1143
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 2: Lions at home. Gof's good you watching them play. It's like,

1144
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:51,320
Speaker 2: of course they got better players than you. It's not

1145
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 2: even that crazy. But this does feel a little rocky early.

1146
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 2: The quarterback situation, the articles, just a lot going on,

1147
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 2: and it kind of feels like it's just the same

1148
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 2: thing over again.

1149
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 3: It's absurd.

1150
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: I can't believe we're having this conversation. But I can

1151
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 1: speak on it, don because I grew up in the

1152
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: Chicago area. But I also from my old child that

1153
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: I would spend summers in Wisconsin. Door County, Wisconsin. We

1154
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 1: have North or Lakes and Eave, Wisconsin. I have so

1155
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: much love for Wisconsin. And they have said this. The

1156
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: Packers fan's faces, they make me so frustrated and so sick.

1157
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 1: Because they are just trust fun fans. Everything is handed

1158
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,760
Speaker 1: to them. They've never had to work for anything, many

1159
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 1: of them, many of them have been as long as

1160
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,720
Speaker 1: they've been alive. All they've known is far of Rogers

1161
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 1: and now Jordan Love. Some of them are like, well,

1162
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 1: you don't remember back in the seventies. The seventies was fifties,

1163
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 1: sixty years ago. That's your excuse. And you know what

1164
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,720
Speaker 1: their comeback is too, You've always had it good. They're like, well,

1165
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:47,439
Speaker 1: we lose every year in the playoffs. In the playoffs,

1166
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,919
Speaker 1: you lose. There's twenty teams in this league that would

1167
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 1: cut their finger off to make a wild card game,

1168
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 1: and you're complaining about losing in the playoffs.

1169
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 3: They are one percenters, they're billionaires, they're trust fans, They're spoiled, rotten,

1170
00:55:58,080 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 3: and it just continues.

1171
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: This year where they're like, you know what, let's just

1172
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 1: grab Micah Parsons right before the season, just like we

1173
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 1: grabbed Woodson and Reggie White. It's so obnoxious. I love

1174
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:09,919
Speaker 1: those people, but they make me sick because the rest

1175
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 1: of the pit fans, especially Bears fans, have a coffee

1176
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: cup asking for change while they're up in the Penthouse.

1177
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 3: It drives me nuts.

1178
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 2: Do you have any hope that this season could turn out?

1179
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 2: Or are we looking at like selloffs here in a

1180
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 2: month of like, hey, you know Cole Kometz, Dj Moore,

1181
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 2: I mean, are you trading guys to restock the cupboard

1182
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,720
Speaker 2: to like, hey what Ben? Give him his Kyle Shanahan,

1183
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 2: Sean McVeigh, even Matt Lafleur and kind of let him

1184
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 2: shape this team over the next couple of years. We're

1185
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 2: lucky to get him. You know, how do you approach

1186
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 2: this if the like, if they lose the Cowboys and

1187
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 2: it feel like they're season's over before October first, right.

1188
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 3: Dude, It's worse than that.

1189
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,879
Speaker 1: The defensive coordinator of the Cowboys is Matt freaking Eberflus,

1190
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 1: where they just fired because he was Ned Flanders as

1191
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 1: a head coach and they couldn't win anything with them,

1192
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 1: and he ran out of time in a game in

1193
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: which he still had a time out. If they lose

1194
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 1: to eber Flus's defense, then they're really screwed. But I'm

1195
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: trying to the word I'm using for Bears fans right

1196
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: now is recalibrate. Just just chill out for a minute.

1197
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,479
Speaker 1: They were thinking dream season. Oh my god, it's gonna

1198
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 1: be a sensation. We're gonna be thirteen and four. Relax,

1199
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 1: let's check in maybe almost Thanksgiving, Halloween maybe, But are

1200
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: is Caleb playing well?

1201
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 3: Are they doing anything good?

1202
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 1: You can dash all that crap about we're gonna win

1203
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: the North, that probably ain't happen. Let's see, we are

1204
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 1: doing six to eight weeks from now. Is bet canj

1205
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson really coach? Because if he can, you better

1206
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: start coaching his ass off.

1207
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 2: Okay, wece. You told Dan Patrick that this is the

1208
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 2: first time you didn't have to audition for anything. They

1209
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 2: called you and you get to sit with this legends

1210
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 2: and rewatch these games a week from we'll recording this

1211
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 2: on Wednesday the seventeenth, So the twenty fourth it's Titans Rams,

1212
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 2: which it's kind of crazy when you look back at

1213
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 2: that moment. Lorenzo O'Neil's buddy of mine, and obviously he

1214
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 2: played a role in that and had an incredible care

1215
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 2: in that Titans team one yard away. But the Kurt

1216
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 2: Warner story, I mean, there's not really been anything like that,

1217
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 2: you know, in our lifetimes. I Mean, this dude is

1218
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 2: bagging groceries and then he just becomes a legendary Hall

1219
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 2: of Famer at quarterback. You know, and that moment was

1220
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 2: looking back, that team was loaded. But still, what was

1221
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 2: it like? And just tell me a little bit about

1222
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 2: the show.

1223
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:24,959
Speaker 1: It's really fun to do. It's really fun to watch John.

1224
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: I don't know me now in my current age. Sometimes

1225
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: on a Saturday night, when my kids go to bed

1226
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: and my wife goes to ben, I'm just sitting on

1227
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 1: the couch. I'll pull up an old concert and I'll

1228
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: just watch a concert on my computer and my phone.

1229
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 3: It could be like Pearl.

1230
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: Jam in nineteen ninety eight or whatever, and I'll just

1231
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 1: watch the whole concert.

1232
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:43,479
Speaker 3: It's just a nostalgia and it's fun.

1233
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 1: This show is like you're watching the concert with Eddie

1234
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: Vedder and he's telling you all about it as you

1235
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: watch it.

1236
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:51,479
Speaker 3: You watch the old game.

1237
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 1: It's with players, fans, everyone who's involved with it, and

1238
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: they just talk shop. Oh, on this play, everyone thinks

1239
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 1: that this happened, but it didn't. And see how on

1240
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 1: the sideline there the coordinator standing next to me. Here's

1241
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 1: what we were talking about. It is the most fun

1242
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 1: way to relive old games. And this particular episode you're

1243
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 1: talking about me. Kurt Cedric d entertainer who's a huge

1244
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: Saint Louis guy, was a Saint Louis Rams at the time,

1245
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 1: ninety nine Rams the most ridiculous, improbable story in NFL history.

1246
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: And yet you watch the game, dude, I find myself

1247
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 1: kind of rooting for the Titans because Steve McNair was

1248
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 1: so cool and they were just so tough, and they

1249
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 1: had just come off the Music City Miracle and their

1250
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 1: one yard short. The funniest part about it is watching

1251
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 1: the game is Steve McNair is driving them down the field.

1252
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 1: Kurt Warner watching it on the show, is openly nervous

1253
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 1: that they're gonna score, even though he knows they're not

1254
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 1: gonna score.

1255
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 3: He's freaking out, like the Rams are still gonna lose.

1256
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 3: And you can feel it watching.

1257
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 2: It, you know. I actually I watch a lot of

1258
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 2: like live music on YouTube, especially you know it's the

1259
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 2: older you get. Yeah, I used to hate my dad

1260
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 2: used to play music from his youth, and then you

1261
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 2: get older. I'm about to have my first child thinking

1262
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 2: about it. All I'm gonna listen to is like music

1263
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 2: from the nineties, and he's gonna be you know when

1264
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 2: he's ten, it's gonna be like twenty forty, he's gonna

1265
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 2: want to kill me. But then hopefully maybe one day

1266
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 2: when I'm gone, he will enjoy that as well. But

1267
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 2: one clip from the Cowboys Netflix documentary that really stood

1268
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 2: out to me. There's like a training camp practice and

1269
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 2: they are on a field that looked like where I

1270
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 2: went to elementary school. Their potholes and there was just

1271
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 2: a rawness to the pre kind of internet financial boom

1272
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 2: that the NFL sees now, where everyone's facility like a

1273
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 2: crappy facility is still awesome. And I kind of missed

1274
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 2: that era of like just the training camps. There was

1275
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 2: just it was just different. And sometimes you watch these

1276
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 2: games from the nineties because you did the Cowboys game right,

1277
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 2: the ninety five game, is that football was just a

1278
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 2: little bit different. It was the NFL. The way they

1279
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 2: practice wasn't that much different than like the high school teams.

1280
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 2: On the fields it was all crappy. I mean, it

1281
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 2: was just I just missed the I just get nostalgic

1282
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 2: sometime about sports, especially good I might.

1283
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 1: Get nostalgic about music, about sports, about everything. Michael Irvin

1284
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 1: was on the show and he was talking about exactly

1285
01:00:57,920 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 1: what you're bringing up. He used to come out to

1286
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Speaker 1: practice and guys were just like getting ready for battle,

1287
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 1: not for games, for practice, and he would walk up

1288
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 1: and down the line of his own teammates and scream

1289
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 1: at them, who's gonna outwork me today? Put your hand up,

1290
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 1: if you're gonna outwork me, who's it gonna be? And

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01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 1: it was like they were ready to fight, and these

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01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 1: are the same team, they're not even having another team there.

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01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 1: And then they would just do like so much live hitting,

1294
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 1: so much live goal line.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 1: As it turns out that was probably woefully unhealthy for

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01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 1: their long term health.

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Speaker 3: But man, as a fan, it was really cool.

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Speaker 2: I mean, as a kid, the Bill Walshoes take the

1300
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 2: forty nine ers to Rockland and Sacramento in the their Dynasty,

1301
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 2: and I would imagine they weren't charging. You could just

1302
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 2: show up if you wanted to watch. I don't know,

1303
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 2: Jerry Rice and Steve Young sling that pill around, and

1304
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 2: those days like if you want to get access to

1305
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 2: a training, you better be a VIP suite holder, you know,

1306
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 2: or like the Masters, you know, a raffle to get involved.

1307
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 2: It was just just simpler times. That's all.

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01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 3: That's all I want to say, no doubts, no doubt.

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01:01:57,960 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate your time and looking forward to watching

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01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 2: in this. You know you and Kurt Warner, Cedric the

1311
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 2: Entertainer watch that's a that's a pretty classic game and

1312
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 2: obviously changed the course of Kurt Warner's life and what

1313
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 2: the rest of those Rams guys for the rest of

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01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 2: their career.

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Speaker 1: It's and honestly, you know what the funniest thing is

1316
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 1: about this, I thought I knew everything about that game.

1317
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 1: The twist at the end is that the Titans are

1318
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 1: driving down the field and it's McNair and it's Eddie

1319
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:25,439
Speaker 1: George and they're down seven at the time they get

1320
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 1: tackled at the one yard line, was short of the touchdown.

1321
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:31,439
Speaker 1: The question is, and this still follows them around, if

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01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 1: they had scored, would they have gone for two and

1323
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 1: the win? Because they could have gone for two to

1324
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 1: win by one point. Jeff Fisher has kind of gone

1325
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 1: back and forth over the years saying what he would

1326
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 1: have done. Eddie George is saying we should have gone

1327
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 1: for two. If we scored, we definitely would have gotten it.

1328
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 1: They were so exhausted. Can you imagine a two point conversion,

1329
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 1: down one point with no time left.

1330
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 3: In the Super Bowl for the win. It would have

1331
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 3: the most electric player ever, you.

1332
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 2: Would say, based on history defensive coaches back then, pre analytics,

1333
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 2: he probably can the extra point. You know, I think

1334
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:03,919
Speaker 2: it's easy to say the game is.

1335
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 3: Like, we're beating the crap out of them. They are

1336
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 3: out of gas.

1337
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 1: Even as somebody on the rams I was trying to

1338
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 1: remember who it was, He's like, oh, they would have

1339
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 1: got it. We were exhausted. If Mike Jones doesn't make

1340
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 1: that tackle, we're losing. And even if it went to

1341
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 1: overtime and they kicked, we would have lost. That is

1342
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 1: the biggest tackle in NFL history by far, and we

1343
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 1: talk a lot about it on the show.

1344
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 2: Well, it's one hundred percent run play right, Lorenzo O'Neil

1345
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 2: leading the whole Eddie George getting it bro Okay, Kin,

1346
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 2: have a good day and looking forward to watching this

1347
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 2: next week.

1348
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 3: John, I'm a fan of yours, man. I appreciate you

1349
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 3: having me on truly, thank you.

1350
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 2: Thanks, Thanks Kyle saying appreciate you. Okay, little mailbag time

1351
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 2: at John Middlecoff. At John Middlecoff, this mail bag is

1352
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 2: gonna be rapid fire, So we're gonna go try to

1353
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 2: go really quick, bang out a bunch of questions, and

1354
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 2: not be on here for too long with this Rams fan. Obviously,

1355
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 2: Stafford is still playing an elite level. How do you

1356
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 2: see the Rams going about their future quarterback situation moving forward?

1357
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 2: It's no secret they'll be in the market for a quarterback.

1358
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 2: They added the falcons first round pick. But if Stafford

1359
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 2: is a top six to eight quarterback and stays healthy,

1360
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 2: should the Rams look to keep them for another year

1361
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 2: while the rookie quarterback learns. I think it's pretty simple.

1362
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 2: I think they are going to have the optionality to

1363
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 2: give them another one year deal similar like this year,

1364
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 2: Like Matt, you want to make more money, you can

1365
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 2: go somewhere else. Here's what we will be to offer.

1366
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 2: But it's going to be a year by year situation.

1367
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 2: And two, if there's a quarterback they like enough, you know,

1368
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 2: assume the Falcons win seven to nine games, so that

1369
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 2: pick is not going to be terrible. I guess they could.

1370
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 2: I mean, hell, they could win ten, So both those

1371
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 2: picks could be in the twenties. Could you package those

1372
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 2: picks and get to seven or eight or nine. I

1373
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 2: think you could. So if they liked a quarterback, they

1374
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 2: could move up to get them. If they don't, they

1375
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 2: can just stick in and pick. So they're gonna have options,

1376
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 2: and just kind of the thing they got going for

1377
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 2: him is they got a lot of equity and anytime,

1378
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 2: you know, Chris Ballard, his back was against the wall

1379
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 2: because the franchise wasn't going well and the owner forced

1380
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:15,919
Speaker 2: him to take Anthony Richardson. The Rams are not gonna

1381
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 2: be forced to do anything, and they should. Like in McVeigh,

1382
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 2: you trust and you just let him in Snead do

1383
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 2: whatever they want with Stafford obviously, if they're gonna want

1384
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 2: to give him another contract, that means he's playing well

1385
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 2: and he's healthy. If they don't, means they think he's

1386
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 2: old and he's done right. So and you let let Snead,

1387
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 2: you know, Wheeling deal in the draft. I think you're

1388
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 2: in a good spot for something that you don't have

1389
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 2: an answer to. A question for the pod, what's with

1390
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 2: the hate for carly ersay Gordon. She's grown up around football,

1391
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 2: he whole life and probably knows more in the sport

1392
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 2: than most of the Joe's sitting at home yelling at

1393
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:54,919
Speaker 2: the TV. Why is it a big deal that she's

1394
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 2: on the sideline with the headset writing in her quote

1395
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 2: stupid little notebook. That's my words, not his. As a

1396
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 2: Colts fan, one of our biggest complaints is that Jim

1397
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 2: Is he was out of touch. He focused on money

1398
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 2: and guitars and amazing philanthropies, but it felt like he

1399
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 2: didn't know what was going on in house. I respect

1400
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 2: Carly for at least putting in the effort. Let's give

1401
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 2: her some time before making fun of her. She got

1402
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 2: made fun of by me simply because I think it's

1403
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 2: performative to be on the sideline taking notes in what

1404
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 2: I said, stupid little notebook with a headset is unlike

1405
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 2: any team in the league, And we have owners like

1406
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 2: Jerry Jones, who played college football who's the general manager,

1407
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 2: like Al Davis, who was basically the coach slash general manager,

1408
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 2: never were on the sideline. Because think about it like this.

1409
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 2: If you work for somebody, whether it be a big

1410
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 2: company or a small company, and every time that you

1411
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 2: had a big meeting, big situation in your job, that

1412
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 2: owner was right behind you staring at you. That'd be

1413
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 2: an uncomfortable place to work. There's a when you watch

1414
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 2: the Chiefs, the Bills, the Ravens, the throwners in the box.

1415
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 2: If you want to listen to the headset, I don't

1416
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 2: even have an issue with that. You own the team,

1417
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 2: you can do that. But to be on the sideline

1418
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 2: with a headset taking notes, give me a fucking break.

1419
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 2: And this is not well, you're just saying this because

1420
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:20,439
Speaker 2: she's a chick. I don't give a shit. I would

1421
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 2: say this about any ow. No one does it. No

1422
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 2: one is doing this throughout the league. I don't see

1423
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 2: Jeffrey Lurie on the sidelines. Hell, I don't even see

1424
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:33,120
Speaker 2: the GMS being like a quote unquote, what are we

1425
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 2: doing this for? I do not understand it now. I

1426
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 2: heard her quote you're gonna pay millions of dollars Like

1427
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 2: I get it, but like I, why are you doing

1428
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 2: this and no one else is doing this? What are

1429
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 2: you gleaning from this? To me? You make it worse?

1430
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 2: And honestly, I think it's it's a look at me moment.

1431
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 2: I truly believe that you can say, what is it hurting? Well,

1432
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 2: I just there's a reason no one else even contemplates

1433
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 2: doing this. I have no problem if you're up in

1434
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 2: the booth or you know, even what Tom Brady did

1435
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:08,919
Speaker 2: out of the way, but in the owner's box taking notes,

1436
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 2: you can do whatever you want. I don't have an

1437
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 2: issue with that. But on the sideline with a headset,

1438
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:16,360
Speaker 2: give me a fucking break. Been listening to you for

1439
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 2: about a year. Definitely blah blah blah. Appreciate the kind

1440
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:19,639
Speaker 2: of words.

1441
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 3: I know.

1442
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:22,759
Speaker 2: You mentioned that you worked at Cal Paul's athletic department,

1443
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 2: and my end goal is to become a college athletic director.

1444
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 2: How big of a deal is networking when it comes

1445
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 2: to trying to get that job? When I was in

1446
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:36,519
Speaker 2: Friensident State, Danny White, who is now the AD at Tennessee,

1447
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:38,799
Speaker 2: his brother was a basketball coach. He's coach at Florida.

1448
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 2: Thenk coaches at Georgia. Now his dad was the athletic

1449
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 2: director at Notre Dame. This guy was just kind of

1450
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 2: a I would say, very similar to a politician. And

1451
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 2: I think part of being an AD it's like the

1452
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 2: athletic version of being a politician. It's about raising money.

1453
01:08:57,479 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 2: It's about keeping people with the money happy. It's about

1454
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 2: being the front facing guy and some tough decisions. But networking,

1455
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:08,639
Speaker 2: which is a skill I suck at. I'm not great

1456
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 2: at it. You know, relative to a lot of you

1457
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 2: guys that are listening in whatever industries you're in, your

1458
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 2: network is your net worth. I do believe that, But

1459
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:20,720
Speaker 2: just on a daily basis, I could be a lot

1460
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 2: better at it, just in terms of keeping up with

1461
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 2: my relationships networking new ones. I've always kind of hated

1462
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 2: that term. It just feels kind of hollow and fake.

1463
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:33,719
Speaker 2: But I'm not a great politician, and there are certain

1464
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:36,959
Speaker 2: industries I couldn't have done because I don't have those skills.

1465
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 2: So if you are going to get to the highest

1466
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 2: level division I athletic director, I think it's borderline impossible

1467
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 2: without being a really good networker, knowing people, dealing with people,

1468
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 2: schmoozing with people. I think it's the majority of your job. Now. Obviously,

1469
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 2: if you hired the right if you're the AD and

1470
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:01,480
Speaker 2: you hire Nick Saban or Urban, You're gonna have incredible

1471
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 2: job security. But I think it's a huge part of

1472
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 2: the job. I think it's a main part of the job.

1473
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 2: And the pie chart, I would say networking, which also

1474
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:14,680
Speaker 2: includes raising the money, the boosters, dealing, you know, kind

1475
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 2: of that realm is the overwhelming majority of the gig.

1476
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:23,599
Speaker 2: Can we talk about how McDaniels is basically the offensive

1477
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:27,759
Speaker 2: version of Brandon Staley, both likable media darlings and genius

1478
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 2: for their respective sides, garbage head coaches with their teams

1479
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:34,600
Speaker 2: quitting on them three years later. Yeah, I mean I

1480
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 2: would say that, you know, Brandon Staley was known as

1481
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 2: a really good coach under Fangio and then he got

1482
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 2: the one year of twenty twenty with the Rams. I

1483
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 2: would say Josh has accomplished a lot more, and Josh

1484
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 2: does have a champion in Tom that like, who is

1485
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:56,880
Speaker 2: Brandon Staley's guy beating down the drum for like Brandon

1486
01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:59,760
Speaker 2: salely is it is him? As the kids would say,

1487
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 2: like Tom believes that whether he's right or not, like

1488
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 2: Tom believes that help Peyton Manning got Adam Gase was

1489
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:08,720
Speaker 2: that guy. When you have a high level endorser talk

1490
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 2: about networking, like if Tom Brady is your number one, Hey,

1491
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 2: I need a list of references. I need ten of them.

1492
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 2: If my only list of reference is Tom Brady or

1493
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 2: Peyton Manning and I'm a football coach, it's gonna be

1494
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 2: a pretty good one. So I just don't know who

1495
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 2: that guy is. For Brandon Staley, I would say, in

1496
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:29,680
Speaker 2: fairness to Josh, I couldn't even compare Brandon Staley to

1497
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 2: Josh McDaniel's and I think they're both. What the hell

1498
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 2: is the school in Ohio? I think they went to

1499
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 2: the same college. A bunch of guys did Youngstown Youngstown State?

1500
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 2: I think you're Youngstown? Is that where Brandon Staley went

1501
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 2: to school? I know Josh did. He's from Ohio. He

1502
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 2: went to no. I guess Brandon Staley went to Dayton

1503
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:57,680
Speaker 2: but coached he did he coach at Youngstown? Maybe it

1504
01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 2: was John Carroll. John Carroll is the school. I guess

1505
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 2: some of these smaller schools in Ohio. Mixed up question

1506
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 2: for the pod, I gotta pick up the pacer, I said,

1507
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 2: rapid fire Lions fan. I think Jared Goff is a

1508
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 2: top four quarterback in the sport at the moment. Everybody's

1509
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 2: ready to put Herbert to top five status, but not Goff,

1510
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 2: even though he had better success than Herbert. Since twenty

1511
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 2: three he's first in yards passing yards per game, and

1512
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 2: he's second in touchdowns and completion percentage. But it feels

1513
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 2: like the media is pushing a certain narrative that he's

1514
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:29,240
Speaker 2: just an above average quarterback. The players think he's top

1515
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 2: fifteen in the league, but not the media a top

1516
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 2: fifteen player in the league. Your thoughts, I guess is

1517
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:37,720
Speaker 2: that based on the top one hundred last year, I

1518
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 2: would say there's not a general manager in the league

1519
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 2: that would take Jared Goff over Justin Herbert. And the

1520
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 2: element is, like Justin Herbert can make every throw that

1521
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 2: he can. Obviously, Goff benefits, I mean, he has an

1522
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 2: incredible offensive skill group, from Saint Brown to Laporta to

1523
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 2: Gibbs to Jamison Williams. I mean, hell, they even draft

1524
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:57,840
Speaker 2: this skuy Tesla who looks literally like a Tesla. She's

1525
01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 2: fucking awesome. I just think Justin Herbert's a better player

1526
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 2: than Jared Goff. And if you had to choose, I

1527
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 2: don't think anyone in the sport of football would take

1528
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 2: Goff or Herbert over Golf. Excuse me, Goff over Herbert.

1529
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 2: That being said, like Goff's had an incredible career and

1530
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:17,639
Speaker 2: is having an awesome career and as an excellent player,

1531
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 2: and it's gonna go to a bunch of Pro Bowl

1532
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:21,559
Speaker 2: He's gonna make a lot of money and he's already

1533
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:24,919
Speaker 2: won some playoff games, So to me, you know Herbert

1534
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 2: has to do it in the playoffs. But I think

1535
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:29,760
Speaker 2: justin Herbert's a better player, more versatile player. I mean,

1536
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 2: the running element is something Jared Goff just can't move.

1537
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 2: So if you could hit Jared Goff, he's like the

1538
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 2: better version of Dak and Kirk Cousins. Herbert's like the

1539
01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 2: lesser version of Josh Allen. I heard what you're saying.

1540
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:46,679
Speaker 2: If you want to give me statistics, I can't argue,

1541
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 2: but I just think that I think you're under selling.

1542
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 2: I would not say Jared Goff stop for a quarterback

1543
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 2: top ten quarterback, top six or seven quarterback, right, Like

1544
01:13:56,400 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 2: how many guys if you go Mahomes, Alan Lamar Burrow

1545
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:04,280
Speaker 2: of healthy Herbert, I think you get in that next group,

1546
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:08,080
Speaker 2: Like who's a better passer from the pocket, Jared Goff

1547
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 2: or Jalen Hurts?

1548
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 3: Right?

1549
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 2: How many guys in the NFC are better pocket passers

1550
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:18,759
Speaker 2: than Jared Goff? Not many? But he has no scramble

1551
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:21,320
Speaker 2: ability none, So if he has to scramble, you're in

1552
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:24,599
Speaker 2: major trouble. That's where it's like even Dak can move right,

1553
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 2: Jalen obviously can move, Purty can scramble around Baker. Who's

1554
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 2: really good? I mean the NFL, Jordan Love. I think

1555
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 2: the NFC is full of guys that are not top

1556
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 2: five guys, but when they're playing well, are really really

1557
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:39,439
Speaker 2: good players. And Jared Goss played well for a long time.

1558
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:42,439
Speaker 2: He was a number one overall pick. My question is this,

1559
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 2: how are the Pittsburgh Steelers defense this bad under Mike Tomlin.

1560
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:47,720
Speaker 2: The offense under Rodgers doesn't seem like it's going to

1561
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 2: be too bad even with the old line issues, that

1562
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:52,599
Speaker 2: defense is getting torched. Would love to hear your thoughts.

1563
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:55,720
Speaker 2: I said, I think this is definitely must win for

1564
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:58,799
Speaker 2: the Bears, just to keep some credibility in their season

1565
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 2: if the Steeler lose this season. I saw Rogers say

1566
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 2: today like, hey, you know, we can't have this binary mindset.

1567
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 2: You know it's about the process, not winning and losing.

1568
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:11,559
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, true, Aaron, but this defense can't be

1569
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:13,680
Speaker 2: this bad. And if you go on the road to

1570
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:17,000
Speaker 2: New England and can't stop Drake May and some pretty

1571
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 2: average pieces, it wouldn't be concerning. It would be a

1572
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 2: five alarm fire. So the first two games From a

1573
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:25,599
Speaker 2: defensive perspective, I thought their defense is gonna be good,

1574
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 2: maybe not the best defense in the league, but one

1575
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 2: of the better ones. And they look really, really bad.

1576
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 2: I understand they have some new secondary pieces, but there's

1577
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 2: just like a lack of physicality that just pretty evident

1578
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:41,519
Speaker 2: when you watch them play. So I would say it's

1579
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:43,320
Speaker 2: a little concerning. This is a huge week for the

1580
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:46,799
Speaker 2: kind of the Mike Tomlin raw raw rally the troops

1581
01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:50,519
Speaker 2: Monday through Friday, Like by the time the game comes,

1582
01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:53,559
Speaker 2: this team should be ready to fucking dominate. If the

1583
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 2: Steelers are going to be a credible playoff level team,

1584
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:01,680
Speaker 2: they win this game and look really good. If they don't,

1585
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:04,800
Speaker 2: could be a weird season in Pittsburgh, and not even

1586
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:07,680
Speaker 2: just win this game, but like hold New England to

1587
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 2: i don't know, low double digits, like thirteen points, and

1588
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:14,800
Speaker 2: just win a game like twenty five to thirteen or

1589
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 2: twenty four to ten and just kind of smother Drake

1590
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 2: May and the offense. That's what I'd want to see

1591
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:23,720
Speaker 2: if I was Steeler fan. I know the Panthers not

1592
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:26,760
Speaker 2: great for business, but I'm sadly a Panther diard. I'm

1593
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 2: at the point where I think it's likely that Bryce

1594
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:32,599
Speaker 2: is not our franchise quarterback. Obviously, it's depending on how

1595
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 2: this quarterback class shakes out. But from a general philosophy standpoint,

1596
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 2: do you think we should draft a quarterback in twenty

1597
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 2: twenty six or should we bring in a bridge quarterback

1598
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:44,160
Speaker 2: and draft the best player available. On one hand, I

1599
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 2: don't want to set up another rookie quarterback to fail.

1600
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:49,639
Speaker 2: But on the other hand, with McMillan, who actually making

1601
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 2: some plays, Chubba and Koker, I think our offensive weapons

1602
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 2: are good enough for a rookie quarterback to succeed. I

1603
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 2: was kind of high on the Panthers. I thought they

1604
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 2: would be them and the Titans. I look like a

1605
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:02,639
Speaker 2: fucking moron right now.

1606
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 3: Now.

1607
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:04,479
Speaker 2: Granted, at this point in time last year, I had

1608
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 2: the Saints. Love the Saints coming into the season. They

1609
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:08,759
Speaker 2: were two and oh, I look like a genius. Things

1610
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 2: can change. But the Panthers have been really, really underwhelming.

1611
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 2: I think it's a little concerning. I'd be lying if

1612
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:17,880
Speaker 2: I've watched all the Snaps. I mean, I've had him

1613
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:19,760
Speaker 2: on one of my TVs, but I haven't really been

1614
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 2: paying attention. Once they've been down big I know they

1615
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:25,320
Speaker 2: kind of came back. That score looks a lot closer.

1616
01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 2: I mean they were down what twenty seven to nine

1617
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 2: in the second half against the Cardinals, So it's the NFL.

1618
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:34,040
Speaker 2: You kind of just mentally check out and they kind

1619
01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:38,639
Speaker 2: of came storming back. But I'm with you, it's pretty concerning.

1620
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:42,679
Speaker 2: I would say he's got to I have a hard

1621
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:47,040
Speaker 2: time envisioning a scenario where they're drafting in the top

1622
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 2: five or six and they roll it back with Bryce.

1623
01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:53,720
Speaker 2: I really do. Now, maybe they could do something where

1624
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:56,080
Speaker 2: if they're bad again, they bring in they've already done that,

1625
01:17:56,120 --> 01:18:00,000
Speaker 2: like an Andy Dalton type and draft the best player available,

1626
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:04,600
Speaker 2: But that's pretty dark. So I would say that Bryce's

1627
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:08,760
Speaker 2: career feels like it's we're pretty close for it being

1628
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 2: scary time for him. It was last year kind of

1629
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 2: settled it down. Feels like we're right back to where

1630
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:17,639
Speaker 2: we were when he got benched. He's a better player

1631
01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 2: than that. But yeah, you can't play three years and

1632
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:26,840
Speaker 2: the team suck and just keep your gig. Okay, a

1633
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:28,760
Speaker 2: couple more, I feel like there's a little bit too

1634
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:30,559
Speaker 2: much faith being put in the idea of the Chiefs

1635
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:33,719
Speaker 2: offensive problems will be solved once Rice and Worthy return,

1636
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:36,840
Speaker 2: I don't question that those guys will certainly help, But

1637
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:39,280
Speaker 2: I feel like people are acting like Rice is justin

1638
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:42,679
Speaker 2: Jefferson or Jabar Chase when we only saw Rice look

1639
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 2: like a good wide receiver for about half a season. Agree,

1640
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:48,599
Speaker 2: in my mind, I don't think that he's gonna come

1641
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 2: back and just be the top wide receiver. Everyone is

1642
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:53,880
Speaker 2: acting like he's gonna be Not to mention, he absolutely

1643
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 2: is atrocious in the run game and an old Travis.

1644
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:00,280
Speaker 2: I think this team is being held to get with

1645
01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 2: duct tape. Yeah, I talked to a buddy there. I

1646
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:09,320
Speaker 2: think they're a little more optimistic than you. I think

1647
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 2: defensively they're still gonna be good. I'm with you. I mean,

1648
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:13,600
Speaker 2: I think we gotta be careful. And I'm guilty of

1649
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 2: this too. Like, once these guys come back, they're not

1650
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:19,200
Speaker 2: chasing Jefferson. Hell, they're not like DeVante Adams and Pooga

1651
01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:21,720
Speaker 2: Nakua like there's they ideally would be fine. He had

1652
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:25,679
Speaker 2: a major knee injury. You know, Xavier Worthy's got fifty

1653
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:28,840
Speaker 2: nine balls. It's not like he's just been some dominant player.

1654
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:32,479
Speaker 2: But Andy can scheme him open. I actually think he's

1655
01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:35,920
Speaker 2: a really skilled player. I'm pretty high on Zavi Worthy honestly,

1656
01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:39,680
Speaker 2: but run game, it's not ideal. But coach Reed's not

1657
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:42,519
Speaker 2: a big call run guy. So I mean, as long

1658
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:44,680
Speaker 2: as you got Mahomes and you got the defense like

1659
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:47,960
Speaker 2: you're gonna stay credible. I would be stunned even with

1660
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:50,759
Speaker 2: an zero and two start, first time in ten plus years,

1661
01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 2: if they're not ten and seven, Like I hear you

1662
01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 2: saying to be duct tape. But when you say duct tape,

1663
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 2: they're an injury or two away from being seven and ten.

1664
01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 2: That that would really surprise me. I would say their

1665
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:05,720
Speaker 2: floor would be like nine to eight ceiling, probably ten

1666
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 2: or eleven wins though, so their ceiling's not very high

1667
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 2: at this point. But I just have a hard time

1668
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 2: seeing their floor be a disaster. I mean seven and

1669
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:14,760
Speaker 2: ten for the Chiefs would be the equivalent of like

1670
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:18,639
Speaker 2: two wins for most teams. With all to talk about

1671
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:20,519
Speaker 2: banning the toush push, why not take it a step

1672
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 2: further and just ban the quarterback sneak. I feel like

1673
01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 2: better for football in a short yardage required the running

1674
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:29,640
Speaker 2: actual football plays. I do think the quarterback sneak is

1675
01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 2: a football play. I mean, it's a pretty historic play.

1676
01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 2: My entire life, people run the quarterback sneak, and no

1677
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:36,960
Speaker 2: one ever had a problem with the quarterback sneak until

1678
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:38,600
Speaker 2: the tousch push. I think the toush push and the

1679
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 2: quarterback sneak are too dramatically different plays. I feel like

1680
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:46,599
Speaker 2: could be wrong in my life watching football. Let's just say,

1681
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:50,000
Speaker 2: since I was ten thirty plus years the quarterback sneak

1682
01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 2: is not some ninety nine percent effective play. It might

1683
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:56,920
Speaker 2: be over fifty, but it's probably closer to fifty than

1684
01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:58,680
Speaker 2: it is seventy five. I mean, think how often we

1685
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:00,200
Speaker 2: see the quarterback sneaks.

1686
01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:01,639
Speaker 3: Hell.

1687
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:04,559
Speaker 2: Josh Allen, who's one of the more physically gifted quarterbacks

1688
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 2: in the league history, couldn't get quarterback sneaks last year

1689
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:10,600
Speaker 2: against the Chiefs. So I got no problem with the

1690
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:13,360
Speaker 2: quarterback sneak. The tush push is a completely different animal.

1691
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:17,800
Speaker 2: Nos Ites, it seems to me that neither the Bengals

1692
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:20,040
Speaker 2: nor the Bears seem to find any success with their

1693
01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 2: current rosters. Is it crazy for the Bengals to trade

1694
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow to Chicago for Caleb Rome and two to

1695
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 2: three first round picks. The idea is similar to the

1696
01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 2: Stafford Golf trade. The Bears get what Ben Johnson wants,

1697
01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 2: the best pocket quarterback, and the Bengals get a ton

1698
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:38,080
Speaker 2: of picks. They also get to trade for a wide

1699
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 2: receiver for picks for a fast track rebuild. I know

1700
01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:44,879
Speaker 2: it seems out of pocket, but Burrow has serious health issues,

1701
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 2: as we've seen in the last three years. I'm a

1702
01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:51,640
Speaker 2: fan from Greece, so forgive my ignorance. I kind of

1703
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 2: don't hate this situation of let's just say Burrow misses

1704
01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 2: the rest of the year. So he's had three major

1705
01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:00,760
Speaker 2: injuries that's knocked him out for the season in three

1706
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:03,479
Speaker 2: separate seasons. You could argue the knee ones a little freakish,

1707
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 2: but the other two you just don't see very often.

1708
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:10,240
Speaker 2: I have a hard time, and I've said this from

1709
01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:14,599
Speaker 2: the jump. The injury maybe changes the conversation a little bit.

1710
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:17,840
Speaker 2: But seeing Mike Brown trade Joe Burrow, I mean it

1711
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:20,120
Speaker 2: would have to get way uglier for him to pull

1712
01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:22,920
Speaker 2: the trigger, and for Caleb and Rome. So then he's

1713
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:26,160
Speaker 2: got all these wide receivers and a quarterback that we

1714
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:29,120
Speaker 2: don't know can play. Getting rid of Joe Burrow. I

1715
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 2: think the Bears, I think Ben Johnson would one per

1716
01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:37,880
Speaker 2: make that trade. I think it's whatever version you know,

1717
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:42,240
Speaker 2: Rome Caleb and two first round picks for Burrow, maybe

1718
01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 2: even throw in some other player. I think the Bears

1719
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 2: would do whatever that version of that trade is, which

1720
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 2: is somewhat fair, even if it's quote unquote an overpay.

1721
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 2: I think the Bengals would one percent say no, even

1722
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:56,840
Speaker 2: with a turf toed Joe Burrow. I just think the

1723
01:22:56,880 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 2: Bengals aren't even close to uh, not even just to

1724
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:03,680
Speaker 2: a yes, but to entertaining the idea. I just I

1725
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:07,040
Speaker 2: could be naive on this one, but just haven't seen

1726
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:10,719
Speaker 2: the Carson Palmer situation to see the way they handle

1727
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:15,599
Speaker 2: some of these off field situations with contracts. I think

1728
01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:18,519
Speaker 2: we are a long way away. Look how long it

1729
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 2: took for the Stafford situation to materialize. What was he

1730
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:27,040
Speaker 2: drafted in seven? So he played what fourteen thirteen plus years?

1731
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 1: There?

1732
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 2: What here's Joe Burrow drafted in twenty twenty so twenty

1733
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:35,760
Speaker 2: twenty one, twenty two, twenty three, twenty four. This is

1734
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 2: six season in the league. I mean, we're not even

1735
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:42,160
Speaker 2: halfway to what the Lions endured with Stafford, who and

1736
01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 2: they weren't even they didn't even have any success. Really,

1737
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:45,760
Speaker 2: they made the playoffs a couple of times, never won

1738
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:48,880
Speaker 2: a playoff game. So I think I hear what you're saying,

1739
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:51,559
Speaker 2: and I don't mind the outside the box kind of

1740
01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:55,439
Speaker 2: baseball basketball type trades. I just think the Bengals are

1741
01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:57,840
Speaker 2: a long It's crazy to say if you're a Bengal fan, like,

1742
01:23:58,160 --> 01:23:59,640
Speaker 2: why are we a long way? Awake? Guy gets hurt

1743
01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:02,760
Speaker 2: all the time. Just look at the owner man. They

1744
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:06,160
Speaker 2: paid him a bunch of money. They will continue to

1745
01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:07,920
Speaker 2: pay them a bunch of money. But I think we're

1746
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:15,920
Speaker 2: I mean minimum eighteen months this season and then another

1747
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:20,000
Speaker 2: season before that stuff, So work several off seasons before

1748
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:22,679
Speaker 2: that even gets entertained. And I think the Bears would

1749
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:24,680
Speaker 2: be all over that trade if it was available.

1750
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:29,080
Speaker 3: The volume