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I'm 0:00:49.720 --> 0:00:52.519 a man, I'm for I've heard so many players say, well, 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:54.440 I want to be happy. You want to be happy 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:55.800 for day A to state? 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:56.400 Is that? 0:00:56.520 --> 0:00:57.640 Whoo whoom? 0:00:57.760 --> 0:01:00.880 And now down and tie. 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:04.440 Welcome back to the Solid Verbal, boys and girls. My 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:08.640 name is Ty Hildebrand. Joining me now over there in Chicago, 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:11.880 my man Dan Rubinstein, sir, how are you? 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:15.959 I'm good? The Solid Baby World Tour continues. 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:19.479 It continues the North American Tour. As little Man doing 0:01:19.520 --> 0:01:20.800 on the planes? Is you all right with that? 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:27.720 He's great on the planes. He did literally crap his diaper. Okay, 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:30.400 fifteen minutes before, like I do that, I'm aware that 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:33.039 they do that. Yeah, I mean he was good. He 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:35.120 didn't complain or anything like that. You feed him on 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:37.800 takeoff and landing, and I guess the pressure on their 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:41.160 ears isn't bad because they're constantly swallowing from their bottle. Sure, 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:45.000 so that was good. And then I guess the women's 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:48.880 bathroom was packed and disgusting for Jody with an eye 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:52.520 to change him, So not unlike you know when the 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:55.680 kicking unit is rushed out onto the field. Yeah, you're like, oh, 0:01:55.760 --> 0:02:00.080 this is disorganized. To get the snap off, I rushed 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:05.080 into men's bathroom met O'Hare and we doined that diaper through. 0:02:05.160 --> 0:02:09.079 Ty Okay, we dooinked it through. It wasn't pretty, but uh, 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:12.000 little man was clean and on his way to the burbs. 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:15.840 So no complaints. And now I'm broadcasting from my brother 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:19.600 in law's room bedroom, childhood bedroom. A lot of University 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:22.760 of Texas stuff everywhere, throw through some pillows on the wall, 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:27.040 and hopefully I sound intelligible if that's a word. 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:30.320 Sure, well, welcome back to the show, not just to you, 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:32.280 but to everyone listening wherever you may be. 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:33.919 We are the solid verbal. 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:36.160 We can find us year round here on this year 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:41.239 podcast talking about all things college football. 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Wherever you can download podcasts, 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:16.399 so be it Apple, Spotify, Stitcher, all the usual hot spots, yeah, 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:19.120 Google Play, you name it. You can find us in 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:23.880 all the usual podcasting hotspots. Go back and check out 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:26.480 our previous stuff that we've done this offseason. We've been 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:29.920 having a good time and we haven't quite figured out 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:32.680 what we're gonna do next, but we've got some other 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:35.520 shows coming up in the pipeline that we're pretty excited 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:39.000 about this year for the first time maybe ever. Dan, Yeah, 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:44.800 we're not gonna put our resident NFL draft knicks in 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:48.560 a box and say, okay, who's gonna go first, who's 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:54.520 gonna go fourteenth? Barring trades. The Bengal's gonna do not 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:57.240 gonna do that this year because it's an impossible task. 0:03:57.480 --> 0:04:01.520 Even the best draft knicks out there get like four picks, right, 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:04.560 So what we're gonna do this year is a retrospective, 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:07.520 going to look at it in hindsight, looking back. 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:08.720 Got a special guest. 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:12.120 We're excited about going to talk about the draft after 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:15.160 all the madness plays out, and then grate it a 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:16.000 little bit later on. 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:21.320 It's like having a meteorologist on after the forecast and 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:24.760 after the day has come and gone, and we'll just 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:28.400 talk to him or her and say, hail right, what 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:32.280 was that about? And then and then the meteorologist will say, well, 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:35.600 it's when there's a condensation situation when it gets pretty cold. 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:37.680 Maybe I don't know if it's high pressure or low pressure. 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:40.200 You would know better than I because you were going 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:41.560 to be a meteorologist, right. 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:43.599 I thought about it, Yeah I did, Yeah, I did 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:44.240 think about it. 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:49.560 So we're going to just talk about why players are 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:51.599 valued or not valued the way they are you know 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:54.000 according to the NFL and what that means moving forward 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:57.280 for teams, players, schemes, whatever. So that'll be after the 0:04:57.360 --> 0:04:59.600 draft and if I may, can I can I jump 0:04:59.640 --> 0:05:00.359 in real quickly? 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:01.040 Sure? Please? 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:05.040 A shameless bit of promotion. You already know this because 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:07.839 it's on the feed. But if somehow your eyes glazed 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:11.080 over it and you didn't care, that's fine. But I'm 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:12.800 going to say one more time because you heard it 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:14.960 on the feed already. I've got a new podcast. 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:17.240 Hy what's that about? Dan? Are you cheating on me? 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:20.280 Yes? The answer is yes, man, It's okay because I'm 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:22.640 telling you to your face this is an open relationship 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:26.320 and that's how it works. I am now hosting and 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:30.839 producing and co writing whatever a show called sports Wars 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:34.000 for a company called Wondery, which has put out a 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:37.000 lot of really big, impressive podcasts. They're based in LA, 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:40.560 and sports Wars is what it sounds like. It's just 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:44.320 we're reviewing, rehashing some sports rivalries, but not really in 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:48.240 like a huge big picture like I actually I was 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:51.080 gonna say mon Stars versus the Tune Squad, and I 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:56.360 was like, actually, that would be pretty great. More of 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:59.240 like like the first arc is Brett favversus Aaron Rodgers, 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:02.720 and Aaron Rodgers is you know, sitting for three years 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:05.040 behind Brett Farvre and we go back to their college time, 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:08.200 so there's some crossover there, but it's it's really cool. 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:10.480 They do shows Wondering, does shows called business Wars and 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:12.960 legal Wars, and now they do sports Wars, and I'm 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:15.440 the person who does that with a number of other 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:18.720 talented people. So it's very cool. The production value is 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:21.599 very high, and I couldn't be brouder to be a 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:22.120 part of it. 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:22.719 Excellent. 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:25.320 Well, I'm excited for you, man, sports Wars a kid, 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:27.480 but I'm very excited. I'm excited to hear what thank you? 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:30.560 So check it out. If you haven't already verbal ors 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:34.600 sports Wars, that'd be Greaturing your yours truly, and by 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:35.760 yours surely I mean him truly. 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:39.360 Dan Rupeestein, all right, what are we doing today? 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:47.159 Huhil Hildenbruns, what's it? Says? April seventeenth. April seventeenth, Yeah, 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:50.840 April the seventeenth, which means I believe Oregon's spring game 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:53.200 is this coming Saturday. Has Notre Dame had its spring game? 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:55.240 Not name did have its spring game. Yes, all I 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:59.280 saw from that was your future savior filled your COVID. 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:05.240 That's right, Drohovic. Drkovic not super good. No, there's a 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:07.000 little bit of concern. I know. 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:11.120 I remember when he was recruited. He was a blue 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:14.400 chip recruit. But when he came in, I watched some 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:18.000 of the highlights and I'm not gonna fashion myself any 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:22.640 kind of throwing expert, Okay, any kind of mechanical I know, 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:23.800 it's hard to believe. 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:25.520 Noted high school second basement. 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:29.200 I'm not George Whitfield out there coaching the quarterbacks. But 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:31.520 you were excited to start him. I was pretty excited 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:32.440 about Field jer Kovic. 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:35.800 But he's got a little bit of a wonky delivery, okay. 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:40.280 And I saw Brian Kelly talking about Filed Djerkovic. He 0:07:40.360 --> 0:07:42.560 was a chorus more diplomatic about it because it's one 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:46.080 of his players, but he just basically said, he's got 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:48.560 a lot of stuff going on with that delivery. Well, 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:50.320 a lot of stuff going on that we got to 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:56.360 try and hiron outs. Yeah, yes, it's mildly concerning. Thankfully, 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:57.640 I we're. 0:07:57.560 --> 0:07:59.520 Leading with Notre Dame's backup quarterback. 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:05.560 It organically got here. There are some concerns about filled Jerkovic. 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:08.760 They'll they'll hopefully iron things out. But yes, to answer 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:10.960 your question, Notre Dame spring game was this past weekend. 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:13.560 Spring games are ongoing now. It's that time of year 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:16.440 as we get into mid April. We've got a list 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:18.680 of teams here that have gone through their spring games 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:23.480 and we're going to focus in on the sources of 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:27.880 optimism that have arisen from spring practice some of these 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:30.960 spring games that we've seen a handful of programs. And 0:08:31.240 --> 0:08:33.760 we're not going to do a Fantasy Things draft. That's 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:36.679 for later and we're not drafting. We're not drafting, we're 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:38.600 not we're not doing anything like that. But we are 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:41.760 talking about spring things. 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:46.880 Yeah, spring things. And as it relates to filled Yourkovic, 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:50.240 Jim Jim Furick has made a lot of money Tye 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:56.800 with a wonky delivery, yas he has that maybe it's 0:08:56.840 --> 0:08:58.040 just Hideo Nomo. 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:01.840 It's up there, just okay, it's it's it's different. 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:04.679 Yeah, we're going to be talking about topics other than 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:07.080 fild your Kovic's waking delivery. I just knowing that I 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:09.880 wanted to feel like that could be a fantasy thing selection. 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:11.920 Now, oh god, the more we talk. 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:15.960 Yeah, that's the annual esoteric Notre Dame thing that gets 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:18.960 Notre Dame fans super excited and riled up and everybody 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:22.280 else in the crowd like, yeah, okay, another Brian Kelly thing. 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:23.800 I love that. That's my favorite thing. 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:25.440 So there will be those this year. 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:27.880 We'll dive in he later. So we I have a 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:32.600 list of five states, not American states, but schools ending 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:34.600 in state the sort of state of the state Spring 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:37.240 optimism thing or not a thing. Addition, it's a mouthful. 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:40.000 They are well short states though to be clear. 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:42.240 Yeah, they're all they are all American states, and they 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:45.120 also have the word state in their title. And here's 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:47.960 what we're going to do. You mentioned the optimism keyword. 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:50.600 We're going to go through each of these five schools, 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:53.680 these state schools, and I'm going to present to you 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:57.079 an optimistic Spring narrative. Okay, and you and I will 0:09:57.120 --> 0:10:00.840 each decide, maybe we'll agree, maybe we'll disagree. If we 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:04.920 were truly doing like a like a serious XM cable 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:07.440 sports cable news, we would agree to disagree on each 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:09.400 of them, Like, Okay, which side do you want? 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:09.680 Okay? 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:11.840 Cool, cool, cool, But I don't know if that's going 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:14.280 to be the case. So we are going to decide 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:18.200 whether or not this optimistic spring narrative will indeed be 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:21.960 a fall autumnal thing or not a thing. 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:26.880 What was that autumnal? Autumnal? Holy crap? Okay, hell yeah, 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:27.480 keep going. 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:31.199 Let's start here because this is a school that I 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:33.840 would love to see succeed, because I've enjoyed watching his 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:37.839 offenses and his teams in years past. Mississippi State. That's right, 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:43.199 We're we're leading with klanga. So the optimistic spring narrative 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:45.720 would be that there passing game in year two of 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:49.280 the Joe Morehead era with a new starting quarterback and 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:55.880 Keton Thompson will be competent, slash above average, slash impressive, 0:10:56.000 --> 0:11:01.520 slash promising, whereas these past couple seasons one with Morehead, 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:04.400 one without one in the Dan Mullen era, not necessarily 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:09.120 the case. Okay, So you're the optimistic view is ooh, 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:13.880 we're in like mid October. We look up and say, ooh, 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:21.840 Mississippi State, complete offense, fun, interesting, weird, new that kind 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:22.160 of thing. 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:28.080 Okay, I would amend this optimism a bit. Okay, I 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:30.640 would not focus solely on the passing game, I would 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:34.480 focus on the quarterback position as a whole. Now with 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:38.520 Nick Gerald leaving, that opens the door for Keton Thompson 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:41.920 to get some more regular experience at the quarterback position. 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:43.080 Going to be a true Joine Year. 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:48.160 Saw some limited action played in six games last year, 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:53.000 thirteen point seven yards per attempt, but a sub fifty 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:57.080 percent completion percentage. I think that's what you should probably 0:11:57.160 --> 0:12:01.000 expect at this point, not cracking fifty. Crack fifty will 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:05.320 probably hover around fifty. But he brings a lot to 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:09.600 the equation with his legs. Ran for almost ten yards 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:13.640 per carry and four touchdowns. So what I like about 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:16.680 this scenario again, if I'm going to home in specifically 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:21.040 on the quarterback position now with Joe Moorehead and Keton Thompson, 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:24.079 he brings a lot more to the equation. I think 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:27.360 as a child, ran the ball playway as a passer 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:33.320 than Nick Fitzgerald, while at the same time bringing I 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:36.000 think the same amount of effectiveness in the running game 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:40.319 as well. I am very optimistic, very optimistic that he 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:43.240 will be a playmaker. Oh my god, what Joe Morehead 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:45.199 can do with this kind of player. We saw it 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:48.280 a little bit with Trace McSorley at Penn State. Before 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:49.920 he left Penn State, Joe. 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:53.000 Made accuracy issues for sure going into the Morehead era. 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:55.720 I think, yeah, I think Trace was a little bit 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:58.920 of a better passer at least through the early days 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:02.240 here of Keton Thompson. But we've seen what Morehead can 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:04.480 do when he's got a guy, a dual threat guy 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:07.120 with this skill set, and I was a little bit 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:09.720 surprised it didn't happen sooner with Nick Fitzgerald. But I 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:13.480 think just in the brief moments that we've seen of 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:16.840 Keton Thompson thus far in Starkville, there's a lot of 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:19.120 reason to be truly optimistic about what he can do 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:21.440 now in that system led by Joe Morehead. 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:24.200 So you don't think that he will be able to 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:28.040 complete enough gimmeis that we believe and I know they 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:31.600 have a new offensive coordinator. I believe that Joe Morehead 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:35.640 will be able to give him some gimmes and RPOs 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:38.600 and screens that he should be able to get his 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:41.880 completion percentage to fifty plus. You are not a believer, 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:45.760 And even that even getting enough guppies to get to fifteen, well. 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:46.960 I think it's gonna be a round fifty. 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:49.160 I don't know if it's forty nine point eight or 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:52.080 fifty one point two, but it's around fifty. I think 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:54.240 that's a reasonable expectation. I think that's the kind of 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:57.160 quarterback Keiton Thompson is. But I think the fact that 0:13:57.200 --> 0:13:59.600 he is so dynamic with his legs, the fact that 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:02.839 he's got a coach in Joe Moorehead who knows how 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:06.400 to use that skill set, he will he will find 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:10.480 a way to emphasize Keitan Thompson's best qualities and use 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:11.239 them effectively. 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:15.800 Yeah. The problem though, is the report out of spring 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:18.480 or reports out of spring, is that exactly what you said. 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:22.160 He's impressive, He's a playmaker, he knows the offense, but 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:26.960 accuracy making pre snap reads not necessarily a strength. Huge 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:30.720 arm strength, huge arm in general. And if we are 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:33.720 to believe that he will be an improvement over Nick Fitzgerald, 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:37.480 it's not that he is suddenly Cam Newton, Marcus Mariota, 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:40.680 Johnny Manziel and just a total game changer in every respect. 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:44.320 It's that when they are running the ball well and 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:47.960 somebody gets wide open deep on play action, he won't 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:52.920 overshoot them by eight yards. That is that's the baseline, right, Yeah. Sure, 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:58.400 And in a division with LSU and Alabama certainly improving 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:02.240 Texas A and M defense, Auburn's defense has been consistently 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:05.640 very good for the most part. That that's what because 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:07.000 all those teams are just going to key in on 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:10.040 the run and that's to get to fifty to fifty five, 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:13.160 fifty eight percent, which is by no means crazy impressive. 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:15.800 It's going to be the guppies and it's going to 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:18.880 be the wide open deep ball. If you are not 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:22.400 going to be hitting in between sorts of passes, is 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:25.400 are you The question is are you able to at 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:28.720 least connect on a deep guppy rather than an every 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:31.000 down guppy. And I think the answer is yes. 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:33.600 For me, this is a full on guppy assault here. 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:36.040 I know on the show, I do like guppy as 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:39.400 a word clearly, So I'm going to say yes. It's 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:44.680 a thing that Mississippi State's passing offense becomes competent, not 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:49.360 overwhelmingly impressive, but competent from where it has been, where 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:53.880 Nick Fitzgerald has been the least, if not second or third, 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:56.200 least efficient quarterbacks in the conference. 0:15:56.840 --> 0:15:58.320 Okay, where are we going next here? 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:03.760 I think Keyton Thompson surges to blow Afroge surges. 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:08.360 I'm optimistic about Keton Thompson. I think this is the 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:11.680 kind of quarterback. Yeah, who can do really well with 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:12.440 Joe moorehead. 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:16.360 Okay, fair enough, let's go across the country. Washington State 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:21.120 another state. Yeah, they are now going to become with 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:24.600 their second straight season of relying on a grad transfer 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:29.320 quarterback to start. I've been there, Washington State, I've been there. 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:33.200 It's it's a rough sledding situation in the second year, 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:35.080 or at least it can be in the Pac twelve North? 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:40.520 Are they a plug and play well offensive school with 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:46.040 His name appears to be Gage Gubrud Gauge. 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:48.000 You know, I'm glad you said that. 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:49.800 Look it up. 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:53.960 This was truly a Globe Tomato type situation for me. 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:59.239 I say we go Gaja just to hon Glo roots. 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:01.880 Because everybody this pronounces I'm assuming the last name and 0:17:01.920 --> 0:17:02.800 not the first, right. 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:07.399 So Gayja Gubrud, who was also pretty menacing in the 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:12.160 Star Wars CANTEENA if I remember correctly, Gaja Gubrud, stay 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:16.320 away from me. Gaja Gubrud. He is a sixth year. 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:19.800 He received a medical red shirt waiver. He comes over 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:23.639 from Eastern Washington, same school Vernon Adams dominated at and 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:27.720 then went to Oreon and played very well at. He 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:31.520 arrives in Pullman having thrown for like ten thousand yards 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:34.000 for the Eastern Washington Eagles over there on the red field. 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:38.280 Will he be able to step in for Gardner Minshew 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:42.240 from a Gaje from a Minshew to a gaja and 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:48.200 almost act like nothing has really changed dramatically for Washington 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:50.680 State that he is going to be. I don't think 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:53.159 you can expect him to have the personality Gardner Minshew 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:55.320 and that sort of leadership potion and maybe that was 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:57.960 the difference in a couple of games for the Kougs, 0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:01.080 but that once again they'll be able to use a 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:04.440 grad transfer quarterback and threaten the PAC twelve North Lade. 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:06.000 I don't know that he's good enough to win the 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:08.000 Apple Cup. I don't know if anybody's good enough to 0:18:08.000 --> 0:18:11.040 win the Apple Cup at Washington State with how sort 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:13.919 of cursed and stomped Wazoo has been in that matchup 0:18:13.960 --> 0:18:17.920 since Mike Leach got there. But does the winning trend 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:21.720 continue with Gaja Gubrud Man. 0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:23.360 I don't know. 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:27.240 It's so tough ask, It's so difficult to try and 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:30.399 project this forward. I know, because you know how it 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:31.639 is with grad transfers. 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:34.760 Is the optimism warranted? Is it a thing? 0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:38.920 The optimism is warranted? I think because we've now got 0:18:38.920 --> 0:18:42.240 some empirical evidence what Mike Leach can do with a 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:45.719 grad transfer, right, We've got some empirical evidence on that 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:48.880 side that would back up that claim. So from that standpoint, yes, 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:52.680 there is there is plenty of reason for optimism. But look, 0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:56.679 it's a different player. Gardner Minshew came onto the scene. 0:18:56.720 --> 0:18:58.719 He had a history behind him where he had been 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:01.160 successful elsewhere, and he. 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:03.280 Had at least he had been recruited to the air 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:06.280 raid by Lincoln Riley at ECU, So a lot of 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:08.720 terminology and comfort was there. 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:11.200 A little bit of a bigger guy found the same 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:16.200 height but had more mass to him than Gajay Goobrud, 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:22.119 Daje Gubrud. But he's a different player altogether. Goobrud is 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:25.560 he had his best season a couple of years ago 0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:28.679 in twenty sixteen. There was a medical red shirt mixed 0:19:28.720 --> 0:19:31.800 in there. Certainly if you go on his twenty sixteen 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:35.320 numbers fifty one hundred yards forty eight passing touchdowns at 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:40.320 Eastern Washington, a noted program at the FCS level, there's 0:19:40.359 --> 0:19:44.679 plenty of cause for optimism there. But I'm just not 0:19:44.800 --> 0:19:47.200 ready to go there yet. I'm not ready to go there. 0:19:47.320 --> 0:19:50.359 I understand the cause for optimism, but I don't think 0:19:50.400 --> 0:19:52.919 I personally am ready to be optimistic just because it's 0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:55.719 a different player. You never know which grad transfers are 0:19:55.720 --> 0:19:58.000 going to hit and which aren't. There's a very real 0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:02.120 chance we could be talking about the quarterback situation at 0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:04.920 Washington State in week five and it's a totally different name. 0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:08.960 Yeah, this show is not meant to be necessarily a preview, 0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:11.880 a season preview of these teams, and I think it's 0:20:11.920 --> 0:20:15.480 important to recognize that. But in terms of him specifically, 0:20:15.960 --> 0:20:18.719 the hit rate on grad transfer quarterbacks, no matter the 0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:20.960 success they have at any level, and even though Vernon 0:20:21.000 --> 0:20:25.120 Adams did dominate, there was more evidence with him specifically 0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:27.399 because of how he performed against PAC twelve schools that 0:20:27.440 --> 0:20:30.160 I don't think we necessarily have with Gaja Gubrud. God, 0:20:30.160 --> 0:20:32.080 that's fun to say, Oh God, that's if we get 0:20:32.119 --> 0:20:34.480 nothing else out of this show. It's that GUYJA like 0:20:34.480 --> 0:20:36.119 he can't use the force. 0:20:35.960 --> 0:20:38.320 But he can. He's for sensitive, he can feel it. 0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:43.800 I like that, thank you. So I'm gonna say no, 0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:46.080 I'm going to say that it is not a thing 0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:49.239 that Washington State will be plug in play, even though 0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:51.840 I think they'll have success. They're down what they're all 0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:55.080 American caliber left tackle, all conference caliber left tackle and 0:20:55.080 --> 0:20:57.560 Andre Dillard who will be in the draft coming up. 0:20:58.040 --> 0:21:00.480 And I just think the hit rate is so low. 0:21:00.960 --> 0:21:03.720 And you know this based on what Notre Dame quarterbacks 0:21:03.760 --> 0:21:07.080 have done elsewhere, sometimes in a grad transfer capacity that 0:21:07.200 --> 0:21:09.800 to come in and not just play at a competent level, 0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:13.040 plugging and playing means being a round gardner Minshew level 0:21:13.080 --> 0:21:17.600 who is fringe heisman. I think that's too much to ask. 0:21:17.640 --> 0:21:21.000 And I do not think come Thanksgiving, the Apple Cup 0:21:21.040 --> 0:21:25.360 will have Pack twelve North implications going both directions. So 0:21:25.760 --> 0:21:28.879 mathematically I'm saying not a thing for plug and play. 0:21:29.040 --> 0:21:30.639 Washington State still should be pretty good. 0:21:30.680 --> 0:21:30.880 Though. 0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:34.560 What I like about this conversation is that it highlights 0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:37.520